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How to lose the unloseable election: be anti-coal. The climate vote evaporated.

Scott Morrison, coal lump, Parliament. ABC News: Nick Haggarty

Scott Morrison in Parliament. Photo, ABC: Nick Haggarty

The Coalition can now form a majority government with no need to do deals with a GetUp candidate. They may win 78 seats. While this is being hailed as a “great” win it’s nothing like Tony Abbott’s 90 seat landslide in 2013. Of the last three elections, the most skeptical PM won hugely, and the biggest believer, Turnbull, almost lost. Morrison-in-the middle, couldn’t fight hard on climate change because his party supports major and expensive action, but at least he didn’t burn off the base like Turnbull did. Luckily for him, the Labor Party had wild ambition and was doomed by overconfidence. (Thank the ABC).

Every time Labor and GetUp reminded Australia that Morrison brought a lump of coal to Parliament, they were helping Morrison.

This was a “climate change” election and Australians voted No

Even ABC commentators admit the central role of climate change and are baffled. (If only they had shown some, any, interest in the opinions of 50% of Australia?). Watch the struggle:

Election 2019: What happened to the climate change vote we heard about?

Matt MacDonald, ABC

It was supposed to be the big issue of the 2019 Australian federal election: climate change.

A range of polls and surveys had left many analysts, myself included, with the sense that this would be a crucial issue at the ballot box. …  ABC’s Vote Compass survey those identifying climate change as the most important issue had risen from 9 per cent in 2016 to 29 per cent in 2019.

Advocacy groups and even media outlets also encouraged the view that 2019 was, and should be, Australia’s climate election.

Voters feared climate policy more than climate change

Andrew Probyn, the ABC’s favourite political “analyst” — who completely missed what was developing — puts personalities, not policies at the top of his list. As if Australians primarily just vote for the guy they like the look of.

Instead, this was unmistakeably a vote for a coal mine:

How Bob Brown and his anti-Adani convoy handed Queensland to the Coalition

Allyson Horn, ABC

“I never expected numbers like this,” admitted central Queensland MP Michelle Landry. [Lib-Nat Party]

“Thank you Bob Brown is all I can say. He came up here trying to tell Queenslanders what we should and shouldn’t be doing, and it actually drew together the agriculture and mining sectors — I’ve never seen anything like it.”

In Adani country, Michelle Landry, George Christensen and Ken O’Dowd recorded swings of up to 15 per cent to transform their ultra-marginal electorates into comfortably safe seats.

It’s likely only five of Queensland’s 30 electorates will be held by Labor when the pencil dust has settled.

This was a coal election in Queensland:

There’s little doubt among regional Queensland MPs that coal killed Labor’s chances.

“People up here in central Queensland aren’t stupid, they can work out that [Bill Shorten's] unsure what’s going to happen in the coal mining industry,” said returned LNP member for Flynn, Ken O’Dowd.

Australians want the Adani coal mine built and running. They also aren’t willing to vote for climate change action, even in some of the wealthiest inner city seats (see Kerryn Phelps). All the badly designed polls supporting “climate action” mislead the pundits. If only they had read skeptical blogs, they’d have known that people can tick the believer box free of charge, but when it costs, climate action always ranks at the bottom, and no one wants to pay for it themselves, not even $10 a month. If people don’t even pay for carbon flight offsets or donate to environmental causes, they certainly won’t consciously vote to lose jobs and spend billions. Ultimately, even in 2019, more than half of all Australians don’t buy the UN climate scare. It was only 2017 when 60% of Australians said they were OK with dumping Paris if they could cut their electricity bills.

Kerryn Phelps put “climate change at the top of her agenda” says the ABC. And after only 7 months she’s out. Her primary vote was just 33%.  Mr Sharma (Liberal)  gained 48% of the vote. That’s not much of a honeymoon. Though the end result was extremely close on two-party preferred votes, which is a mark of the great political re-alignment as wealthy formerly Liberal blue-ribbon seats shift to the “inner city” Labor Party while the workers become Liberal conservative voters.

One Nation votes are unmistakeably votes against climate propaganda, and the swings were large. More fool the Liberals, who were so afraid of namecalling attacks by the ABC that they preferenced the Greens ahead of One Nation.

The LNP’s George Christensen kept his seat with a swing towards him of 11 percentage points. Labor lost votes to the One Nation candidate who polled 13 per cent. Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon in the coal mining area of the Hunter Valley may survive the big swing against him, but one Nation candidate Stuart Bonds polled 22 per cent of first-preference votes and clearly took votes from Labor. In Rockhampton the One Nation candidate won 17 per cent of the vote. That meant the swing away from Labor on two-party preferred was more than 10 percentage points.

 

PS: “Shares surge on return of Morrison Government”

Tell me again how business wants more action on climate change? Investors vote with their money.

Photo: Nick Haggarty, ABC News

This post is quoted in The WashingtonTimes by Valerie Richardson.

h/t Pat

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How to lose the unloseable election: be anti-coal. The climate vote evaporated., 9.8 out of 10 based on 111 ratings

388 comments to How to lose the unloseable election: be anti-coal. The climate vote evaporated.

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    Bill in Oz

    Remind me someone.
    Was it Morrison who brought
    A lump of black coal
    Into the House of Reps ?
    And now he’s the prime minister !
    I’ll drink a glass to that !
    Congratulations Aussies !
    Cheaper power on the way !
    Yehhhhhh !

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      robert rosicka

      Yes he did and was ridiculed by the left , as it turns out it was a shrewd move that has helped him .

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    New Chum

    Keep an eye on the electorate of Blair in QLD the PHON candidate thinks it possible the LNP might win depending on the flow of preferences.

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      Greebo

      Yep. There is a swing of more than 9% away from Labor, and Sharon Bell has polled over 13,000. Given PHON voters usually preference away from Labor as well, Blair is definitely in play.

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      At the moment the ALP are 2500 out in front.

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      Bill in Oz

      That is Shayne Neuman’s seat
      The labor minister for Immigration
      The Open Borders idiot
      Who was under instructions
      From ALP headquarters
      Not to say a word !
      Him losing would be sweet news indeed
      And I just looked at the AEC website
      For details of the count
      His own . vote has dropped majorly
      And when I added up the percentages against him
      The Liberal candidate will be sitting on 53.33% !
      Shayne Neuman looks GONE !
      Hooray !

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        Bill in Oz

        Liberal votes + DLP votes + United Australia votes + Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Votes + 53.3%

        Neumann’s in trouble.
        But I wonder if he even knows it yet.

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          Bobl

          If Blair falls Labor is in big trouble, that electorate contains Ipswich which is Labor Heartland big time. I would be astounded if Blair fell. But even to bring this seat into marginal territory shows what’s happening in QLD Queenslanders seem to be taking charge of their vote, Queenslanders reduced Labor to 8 or 9 a couple of state elections ago, the standing joke was that they could hold caucus in a minivan.

          If Blair goes to the coalition I suspect a zero result for Labor has become possible in Queensland – Labor refuses to address the real issue. The Greens are eating their lunch, while Labor continues to fight the loony greens by swallowing their policy positions, they will continue to share the vote with them. They lose votes to the Greens on their left flank while vacating the centre to woo greens leaves their right flank ( which is now well left of centre) exposed ceding the entire centre to the coalition.

          Labors drift left away from workers values to the latte sippers elite inner city world is squeezing them out. The only way out for Labor is to move out of the inner city into the mortgage belt, and that means representing people who aren’t renting and care what their house is worth and whether they can afford the next electricity bill. Many of those people have parents who are pensioners some who feed themselves with imputation credit refunds.

          The only real hope for Labor is to put policy differences between themselves and the Greens, dump climate change waste, ditch the childish class warfare, and pensioner bashing and compete with the coalition instead of the Greens. This means tackling the Greens and joining the majority opposed to Green waste and job killing obstructionism.

          Unfortunately by promulgating the lies for so long and even embedding their political lies into the school curriculum Labor have created a sizable minority of AGW blind believers. Labor have effectively locked out the possibility of a centre realignment since they would leave the Greens representing that entire large minority. A centre realignment would mean a long time in purgatory but they might survive. Continuing the move to the extreme left in order to out green the Greens is a slow death that will see Labor eventually replaced by another party better representing worker values

          I think Labor is locked into a path to oblivion either way, a trap of their own making.

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            Greebo

            The swing as from the latest AEC info is 6.57% away from Labor. Huge in a seat like Blair, which, as you say, is heartland for Labor in Qld.

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      Ted O'Brien.

      Also Hunter in NSW.

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    WXcycles

    It’s time to build Australia’s first clean-coal power-station in Collinsville, North Queensland. It’s close to the coal measures, it’s far enough inland to escape the worst of a major cyclone, and it’s in the right location to power a large chunk of the state, plus the power connectors already exist.

    Then do it again in several other locations, especially South Australia and Victoria.

    Proly cost less than a Snowy Mountains water-battery.

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      Hanrahan

      Anywhere but Collinsville, it is a hopeless union town. It may not be the aole of the world but you can stand on a milk crate and see it from there.

      A new power station there would be cursed with union strife and poor maintenance, verging on sabotage as the old one.

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        WXcycles

        I’ve thought for a long time that a power-station just west of Charter Towers also makes good sense. It’s close to Townsville and much closer to Cairns and the Cape, to reduce transmission loss. A large established industrial base and technical work force is nearby (and even more protection from major cyclonic effects). Plus considering its location and rail connections to Bowen and the Galilee Basin coal (some of the biggest cleanest high-grade coal deposits on earth) it was my second pick for a site. And frankly probably the better site as it’s probably cheaper to supply and operate from once it’s been built.

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          Hanrahan

          It would need to be near the 275KV line from Gladstone to Townsville. It is an inland line which goes through Nebo to feed the Bowen Basin mines. An area around The Towers and Burdekin Falls Dam would be close to it and the line to The Isa. It could feed N,S & W.

          I found a grid map by AEMO here

          chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://www.aemo.com.au/-/media/Files/Electricity/NEM/Planning_and_Forecasting/Maps/Network-Diagrams-pdf.pdf

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            WXcycles

            Looks like Mingela would be closest to its path before it cuts back to Townsville, in which case just west of the Macrossan Bridge (East of Charters Towers) may be the place to put it, and link into it from there. There are already diversionary roads and rail past Charters Towers for heavy haul. Else east of the road southwards towards Belyando Crossing, but still close to Charters Towers, say 10 km south of it.

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              Hanrahan

              Beleyando Crossing will the the “township” for Adani I believe.

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                glen Michel

                Belyando roadhouse is a welcome rest after rather long MC ride.Stray Droughtmaster/ Brahman types one has to keep eyes peeled.

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            WXcycles

            Found it, there’s a pylon in this satellite image showing where it crosses the Haughton River, to the west of Calcium.

            https://www.google.com/maps/@-19.7827541,146.9336557,301m/data=!3m1!1e3

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              WXcycles

              I trends SSE back towards the general direction downsteam of the Dam and passes about 10km NE or Ravenswood in a line towards Calcium and Townsville.

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              Hanrahan

              I doubt that is 275 KV.

              When we go west from Townsville we go through Mingela which is due south. By the time we get to the Towers we are fractionally south of Bowen.

              But we are on the same page.

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                Hanrahan

                The original HT line from the south was 133KV and came up the coast. Joh Bjelke Petersen, with wisdom and foresight saw the cyclone risk to that line and built the 275KV line inland which also fed his beloved coal mines in the Bowen Basin. Drag lines suck an awful lot of electricity when they drag those enormous buckets to fill them. I hated Joh at the time like all young ABC watchers but he might have been our greatest visionary. Qld owes whatever prosperity we have to his nurture of industry. The governments have done Sweet Fanny Adams since. I was a coms tech keeping the linies in touch while this was being built [among other things]

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                WXcycles

                It’s got to be it H, it’s in the right area and running the correct path and direction, there won’t be two feeders going through that area, so that will be it.

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        yarpos

        “It may not be the aole of the world but you can stand on a milk crate and see it from there.”

        best line I seen in a long time :-)

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      Bill in Oz

      The HELE plants need to go where they are most needed
      Where there is infrastructure already there to connect them up
      And where there are sites for them.
      There are two such sites already.
      At Hazelwood in the Latrobe Valley
      And at Port Augusta in SA.
      Now that would be good karma !

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        WXcycles

        And also the places where it’s least likely to get a go as a debut technology in Oz.

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        Bill in Oz

        Such sites for cheap HELE power plants
        Has the virtue of supplying cheap reliable coal fired pwoer
        To Expensive Victoria & SA
        Now that makes good sense.

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          Kinky Keith

          Not if you are paying taxes in NSW.

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          WXcycles

          I think anyone with a brain can easily agree with you Bill, but that does not mean the facts will win, they don’t seem to want anything to do with evil coal in those States, is my point, hence not the place to float such an option.

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          Bill in Oz

          Way up in Qld the power is already cheap
          Because of coal !
          Go check the AEMO website.
          And the market for extra is far away.
          Whereas in Vic & Sa
          The power is bloody expensive
          And the market close by.
          Dead simple. WXCycles.

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        Graeme No.3

        Bill:

        Hazelwood YES, but Pt. Augusta NO.
        The power stations were built there because of the coal from Leigh Creek and to supply Whyalla and Pt. Pirie.

        With the current (lLiberal) State Govt. doing their best to push the smelter out of Pt. Pirie and the Whyalla works setting up to collect subsidies, a better choice would be Outer Harbour or better a deep sea port for the coal imports (Leigh Ceek coal isn’t that clean nor that suitable for HELE plants) such as the one being planned for Eyre Peninsula. A sub sea cable to Adelaide would be just as short as the transmission lines from Pt. Augusta.

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        AndyG55

        And as a replacement for Liddell.

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          Bill in Oz

          If it actually closes, yes !

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            AndyG55

            Liddell really is getting old,

            and a HELE replacement with say twice the output, would be a very good option.

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            Analitik

            Liddell it’s closing

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              Analitik

              due to entropy not countered by proper maintenance. It’s too far gone to keep running beyond there planned closure date

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              beowulf

              I don’t think Liddell lacks maintenance as such. I think it lacks a total re-fit, and if you’re going to tear the guts out of it, why not upgrade it with HELE? Liddell has had 2 scheduled major maintenance programs in the mild autumn months for the past 2 years. Obviously that’s just stop-gap stuff in a power station that has been around since the mid-60s.

              It’s past its use-by date technology-wise, but it’s a perfect brown field site for a newie. It has the water source; it has the power lines; it has the road infrastructure; it has a skilled workforce; 10,000 tonnes of steaming coal rumbles past its front gate every few minutes on the way to Japan or Korea; and it is close to the heavy power demand of the Newcastle/Sydney/Wollongong industrial and population belt.

              The Hunter needs another proper power station, 3GW of baseload minimum, not the mish-mash of distant (and yet to be built) unreliables plus a bit of gas that AGL claims will replace Liddell, which even by AGL’s optimistic sums falls well short of Liddell’s current capacity.

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                Analitik

                Of course the value of Liddell is in the site, with all the transmission and cooling infrastructure. Why do you think AGL have repeatedly refused to sell it?

                While the public plan is for smallish COGAS plant to “firm” the renewables that will “replace” Liddell, you can bet AGL actually plan for a large scale multi unit COGAS plant (think 3 x Pelican Point) as the eventual outcome (as the “firming” requirement grows) and will layout the site accordingly. Overly large pipelines will be the giveaway.

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      Latus Dextro

      Personally, I’d recommend leaving SA to languish. I would also recommend severing any interconnector dependence, and dependence on Federal funding. Anyone leaving would be required to pay a $5k tariff to the State they wished to enter.
      Let them turn into a Venezuela and illustrate the success of their frappe watermelon politics.

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        Kinky Keith

        My sentiments entirely with a but!

        Those in S.A. and VIC who didn’t vote for this shambles are being penalized.

        Still, that’s often what we get everywhere, shafted.

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          Bill in Oz

          There are plenty of us who did NOT vote for this shambles
          We were & are a majority in SA
          That’s why labor got the boot in March 2018.
          Little did we know that there are Liberals with a Greenist agenda.
          Sooooooo..
          What if Morrison Coalition government was to build
          A HELE plant here in SA.
          It would force prices down
          Even if black coal was shipped in from NSW or Qld.
          And a gratefull SA Public would embrace the Coalition with open arms
          For saving us from the bloody greenist ideologues.
          Who are destroying our economy and our standard of living.

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            Analitik

            Unfortunately, South Australia booted Wetherall and his gang too late. Red Dan has set up next door and holds the whole of the south east mainland in the thrall of the “renewable transition”. It will get worse for Victoria and South Australia before it gets better.

            Hopefully, New South Wales will stop the degeneration of its power assets with Liddell

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        yarpos

        How vindictive, last I saw there wasnt a 100% support for Weatherill over. The Libs have been saddled with a sunk cost and an indoctrinated public.

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      Jonesy

      SA is a prime candidate for Australia’s first and the world’s first commercial MSR running on 20%enriched Uranium and Thorium. Just float two 500MW modular units into Port Augusta and hook them up to the network and away you go.

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    Earl

    Has anyone else noticed how nasty and bitter lefty commentators are responding? They are filled with hate and bile, and still can’t work out why their bed wetting luvvies lost. One commentator, hopes all LNP voters die.

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      Ron Cook

      YEP!!!!

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        Greg in NZ

        Texted my brother (Sydney) and an old friend (Cairns) asking if their vote counted and were they celebrating or drowning their sorrows. Ouch! Losers have no sense of humour these days (their responses shall not be repeated here nor anywhere). I replied they could always emigrate to Canada or Antarctica – both lovely in the spring, or so I’ve been told… :-)

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      OriginalSteve

      Which is precisely why adults need to be in charge…

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      Hanrahan

      For the sake of my sanity I avoid them so haven’t noticed.

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      Yonniestone

      The simple explanation that you’ll never hear from the MSM left is that Bill Shorten and his leftist rabble scared the absolute hell out of most Australians.

      People have been anxious for some time and they’re only now starting to work out what’s wrong with the country, a sure fired way to lose voters in a nation that generally works and plays hard is to threaten their incomes and personal property and insist this is the way its going to happen.

      I’ve was so concerned about the Shorten economic disaster we focused on cleaning up some debt the past year and sold a few things off, we also get a good gauge of how private business is going through work (AusPost) and there was a noticeable drop in parcels in some sectors while the empty buildings grew, I hope confidence comes back again.

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        robert rosicka

        Just watching the Drum and they are insisting Labor lost because of the Liberals negative campaign against them , pot kettle black and as Paul Murray pointed out last night that when Labor presented their radical policies on climate and wealth distribution they got what they deserved .
        Unlike Mediscare .

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          Yonniestone

          Labor insist on playing identity politics when it suits them but Australians woke up to this also, the last thing most Aussies want at work is a whinger let alone a bunch of them running the show!

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        Kinky Keith

        I noticed many newly vacant business properties around in the last year.
        Not something to give confidence for the future.

        No business income for somebody and no rent for the owner.
        KK

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      Sambar

      Not only those of the left. Just saw Malcolm Turnbull on the 4.00 pm news. A very sad man. He managed to “personally congradulate” Scott Morrison. Not a word about how good for the country or a “well done ” Liberals. It obviously was a bit of a struggle, and then he declared how good it was that Peter Dutton didn’t win the prime ministerial spill. Bitter to the very end.

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        Graeme No.3

        Turnbull inadvertently helped the Liberals. As he pulled the party to the Left in his hopeless quest to become boss of both, Labor not wishing to be associated with him (and who could blame them) had to go further into Greenie territory. This encouraged the Greens to be more outlandish (or more Off-Planet) to pressure Labor.
        Turnbull as noted lost a lot of votes in 2016 to minor parties. What escaped him, and Labor, was that many who voted for the Greens did so because they disliked both majors. With the Greens off the planet (and Labor even less acceptable) they swung to One Nation, UAP even Katter and joined the refugees from Turnbull, although some of them drifted back to the Libs.
        The question is where will their preferences go? I think most will follow the HowToVote card, which would benefit the Libs.

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          Analitik

          I’ve stated before that The Greens are effectively the old extreme left faction,split off into a separate party. Just look at the seats that Labor won and how many primary votes were for The Greens.

          Australia has not been turning green – the watermelons have always existed but now have their own (strident) voice, unadulterated by the centrists that remain in Labor.

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        Analitik

        When Turncoat overthrew Abbott (something the media have completely failed to mention when accusing the coalition of “leadership instability”), I spoke out during a family function to express my reservations about his motivations after others (especially those who disliked Abbott) were lauding the change.

        Someone said “It sounds like you’re saying Malcolm Turnbull is not a man to be trusted” to which I replied “EXACTLY”. The conversation immediately shifted to another topic.

        Time has vindicated my opinion, again and again. The man should never have been allowed to be a member of the party, let a alone a candidate.

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        Greebo

        You don’t think Turnbull is of he left?

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      Phoenix44

      The only way Progressives respond these days – first in the US with Trump, then the UK with Brexit. Name-calling followed by accusations of lying, misconduct, foreign interference and the rest.

      These people simply cannot accept others views and opinions, nirvana that they can lose.

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      yarpos

      Watched the final Game of Thrones episode tonight. There was a scene where the last standing members of the elite were meeting and spraying bile at each other and historic wrongs. They were then given a reality check, told to get a grip and elect a new leader. Felt like I was watching an upcoming Labor Party conference.

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      Egor TheOne

      While briefly watching channel 2 coverage on election night, l was expecting someone there to bring out the urn .

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    Na, not gonna happen. Snowy 2 will go ahead, mass immigration will continue, no dams, no coal or nukes power stations. Cultural marxism will be rolled out unchecked in our institutions (ABC, Universities, BOM, CSRIO, etc.). What I have posted last night:
    Boys & Girls. I cannot share your excitement and optimism re the LNP win. They have proven over and over to be a “Labour Lite” party. What have they achieved or changed the previous 6 years in office (TA reversed the C02 tax is about all)? How many new dams was approved or built? How many coal fired or nuclear power stations were approved or built? Immigration to AU has increased massively/uncontrolled. Cultural Marxism exploded under their watch (freedom of speech or religion – Israel Folau, corrupted institutions – Universities, CSRO, BOM, identity politics, etc).Approving energy poverty for Australians (RET, Paris). My prediction unfortunately is very pessimistic: No new dams or power stations will be approved, immigration as usual, LNP will stay in Paris and bow down to all the UN unconstitutional requirements. I have lived through communism, socialism , cultural marxism and the combination of all three. The LNP is unfortunately part of the NWO global elite. They are not as blunt as Labour and the Greens. The outcome will be the same: Totalitarian one world socialistic government is the the end game (read Agenda 21 & now 2030). Australian leaders have signed away Australia’s sovereignty since 1992. I have deliberately corrupted my house of representative vote by writing a summarized version of these comments on the voting slip.
    AND later:
    All city and town counsels in AU have implemented the UN Agenda 21 fully. State Gov’s & National Gov’s are a few steps behind. How many years has PHON party been around? 20 years? The Nationals? All talk, NO DAMS! Mass immigration: work?, energy?, water?. What an utter disgrace. MP’s and Senators, 3 decades of gravy train remuneration, nothing delivered for Australians. You honestly believe those clowns in Canberra are not part of the NWO global elite?

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      Ron Cook

      My fear too…..

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      So long as Mr. Sun co-operates for the next three years, it will be cold enough to take the wind completely out of their sails. I know it’s optimistic, Old Sol, but a White Christmas in Perth would do the trick.

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        Kevin Lohse

        A white Christmas in Perth would signal the onset of another ice age and glaciation down to the Great Lakes in the US, Be careful what you wish for! On second thoughts, Chicago under 1000 ft of ice…….

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          Sceptical Sam

          It’s cold enough to snow here right now.

          Subiaco.

          Reverse cycle air con blasting away flat out. Starting to get a bit warmer. I might put on a lighter pull-over shortly. Wife sitting with the blanket (I’ve offered a cuddle). A bit overcast but clear sky to the west. Brrrrrr.

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            Sam

            Subiaco?

            There’s one in Italy, but somehow you don’t sound Italian.
            There’s one in Arkansas – a Benedictine monastery, but you don’t sound particularly monastic :)
            Taking a stab, I assume you mean Subiaco, a suburb of Perth? Assumptions, however, can be dangerous.

            FYI, here in Upper Moutere, New Zealand at 05:30 the temperature is -0.2°C, but the fire is going and all’s well.

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          Graeme#4

          It has snowed in the Perth hills once in my lifetime.

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        theRealUniverse

        At the same lat as Perth in the NH it DOES snow. The SH is a totally different system, due to the diffences in continents. That geophysical fact is lost on many observers. Still 1000′ ice over Perth um.. well..Maybe just a chillier than avge winter will do.

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          Adaminaby Angler

          Series of 3° C daily maximums and snowy days all throughout next week here, and it’s still only May…

          Also, the SH is actually snowier than the NH once you head poleward from the Subtropical Ridge; compare the climate of Grytviken and Bird Island, South Georgia Islands to a similar latitudinal parallel in the NH, at sea-level. The snowiest locations on Earth, are also in the SH: Heard & McDonald Islands, Allardyce Range, South Sandwich Islands, and so forth—even the snowfall of the New Zealand ranges make that of Japan look petty by comparison.

          Southern Ocean, mateys: Roaring Forties, Furious Fifties, Shrieking Sixties…nothing in the NH can parallel these fierce, low-pressure frontal bands, hence the Southern Ocean being the most treacherous on Earth—particularly the South Indian Ocean straddling 55°-65° S.

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            theRealUniverse

            Thats due to the permanent lows circulating the Antarctic. The circum-Antarctic current. Yep it gets a but wet and chilly in the Sth Is of NZ and Patagonia.

            Of course the loontards will tell you its all driven by .04% CO2 in the atmosphere..

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      WXcycles

      Can’t say I disagree with you, I’m very doubtful of the Lib-Nats allegiance too. Perhaps I would put One Nation outside the collective elite-swamp camp (with questionable execution of anything they propose). But if the dog is to get a bone at all, a new clean-coal-fired power-station at Collinsville would be a good start and indication of intent. But I look at who the Treasurer is and gee, how did Joshua get to be Federal Treasurer of the 12th biggest economy on Earth after being the Minister for Resources and Northern Australia, and the Minister for the Environment and Energy?

      I’m sure that’s just a coincidence but the carefully cultivated POLITICAL conservative Zeitgeist/party-line says, “Whatever you do, don’t mention the war!“. It’s funny how that always seems to happen within the globe’s economic power centers.

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        Hanrahan

        a new clean-coal-fired power-station at Collinsville would be a good start

        Refer my post #3.1

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        Yonniestone

        Agreement here Staal and Hanrahan, however I’d like to point out the real work to turn the tide on globalism can be done by every citizen of this nation, get the email of your nearest MP or Senator and start writing, it doesn’t have to be an essay just give them feedback on what the people actually think, even after Tony Abbott’s big win the population should have been pressuring members to enact their wishes (hindsight and all that)

        It sounds a like a bit of a stretch but its worth a go to keep the momentum going in the right direction.

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      Sceptical Sam

      I understand your pessimism. However, the Australian people have just demonstrated that they have a very good understanding of what’s going on. They’ve rejected it. Just like they’ve now rejected the extremist “climate change” fabrication at the last three Federal election.

      Rudd tried to dud the people. They chucked him and his rabble out.

      Turnbull tried to dud the people. They cut him off at the knees, then chucked him out and put in a realist.

      Shorten tried to dud the people. They wouldn’t wear him.

      All the above were climate change elections. If it’s not clear to your NWO whackos that Australia won’t wear them, then they’re slower than a Dions bus in Kiera Street.

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        Sceptical Sam

        Keira Street.

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        OriginalSteve

        Heres what I think happened – people are sick of the green / PC / “Safeschools” / general unhinged Leftist nonsense, however the tax threat was the final straw.

        It just helped the left is tied up with the loopy greens that mad it easy for people to dump Labor on their backsides ( where they deserve to be permanently ).

        When the green convoy reached QLD, it was the demonstration of green stupidity that made it easy to dump Labor. That and all the jobs to be lost of the adani mine didnt go ahead.

        Overall, people are sick of the Marxist Left, and it deserves to be kicked out and kept out. The QLDers will sanely call a spade a flamin’ shovel.

        What happens next will be interesting – I predict more green “sleepers” in the Liberal camp will be “activated” to try and wrest control of the Libs to get the sick NWO agenda back on track.

        Globally, with the rise of nationalism, I’d almost expect a war somewhere will be needed to get things back “on track” for the NWO mob. However if people keep sanely resisting I’d expect a conflict to become global….

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        Another Ian

        My mother’s version on politicians – “When they start talking down to me it is time they went”.

        Many years ago he Courier Mail (IIRC) had a cartoon series called “The Small Family”. In one scene he and she are watching a political spruke on tv.

        She – “Are they telling the truth?”

        He -There’s not that much truth”

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      yarpos

      That dismal prediction of the future is probably about as correct as most predictions of the future. Maybe we should have a poll?

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      William

      You wrote all that on your voting slip? Wow!
      PS: I agree with you.

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    shannon

    People wish to “survive” with their families and prosper in their own Country……
    The Climate SCAM is fading in Europe as their “silly” leaders realise that their economies are failing, and the populations arent happy !
    Surviving NOW and in the PRESENT is far more important, than ANY imagined prediction in the future…

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      Phoenix44

      It is not fading in Europe. Pretty much every day in the UK we are subjected to new horror stories, and it is the same in France, Germany, Holland and Spain. Thereach is however growing and crucially organised resistance in those countries, and in Finland and elsewhere. It might happen in the UK too, but only after Brexit is settled and done with.

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    Ron Cook

    My big question is how do we get through to all those morons who still want “real climate action now”?

    I’m fed up of the number of times (totally lost count) that MPs and the media who keep waffling on about it.

    Thank God for the likes of Bolt and Alan Jones, but it is not enough to change the mindset of these climate change (aka emergency)clowns.

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    James

    I have two observations:
    1. The LNP looks like having a majority, so they wont need the vote of Zali Steggall. Sucks to be her!
    2. Clive Palmer didnt waste $50m. He got exactly the result he needed.

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    Reed Coray

    How to lose the unloseable election:

    Simple. Have your candidate (a) wear ugly pant suits at every campaign rally, (b) insult half the voting public by calling them “deplorables,” (c) get in bed with the main-stream-media to the point they feed you “debate questions” before the debate takes place, (d) occasionally fall down when you enter cars or airplanes, (e) surround yourself with a bunch of sycophantic actors and rich no-nothings, (f) unseat the Wicked Witch of the West as the most despised person with power, (g) lie out of both sides of your mouth, (h) blame anyone but yourself for disasters that have your name stamped all over them, (i) charge exorbitant fees and give speeches to wealthy bankers while claiming to be the savior of the little people, (j) run a “pay-for-play” charity and siphon off funds for your personal enrichment, (k) mishandle classified documents and get the head of the Department of Justice to exonerate you because you had good intentions, etc. I don’t know how many of these apply to Bill Shorten and Australia’s Labor Party, but I know someone and a Party to whom they might apply.

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    Allen Ford

    The trouble with the ABC types, to a man/woman, is that they are cursed with the Bob Ellis syndrome,- a pathological disability that results in a 100% failure at predicting the future.

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      Latus Dextro

      In all probability most ABC types tick the ‘gender diverse’ box because they place great value upon the rainbow cult, political correctness and identity politics.
      They would wish to explicitly associate and be seen to associate with a higher order in the watermelon hierarchy of oppression. Consequently, your assumption around the disabling opacity of their prescience may not strictly apply. It may in fact be a further handicap, which will serve only to further elevate this highly oppressed group in the ABC hierarchy.
      At a guess then, it would seem as though the ABC are doomed to continue to make the same mistake until one day, they are considered an utterly irrelevant and trivial side-show, and defunded.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      I put it down to their strategic error of believing their own rhetoric. Their how to vote app put climate change as the top issue, advertised it heavily and then reported it as the top issue for all Australians. Not just a particular subset of ABC viewers.
      Then they believed that was reliable statistics!!
      Add in a bit of pro-Labor bias, some hubris and a large lump of groupthink and;
      No surprise.
      Cheers,
      Dave B

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        yarpos

        Their is a great article in The Age and I imagine the SMH about a celebratory dinner held for the Labor glitterati on the Friday night before polling. Already celebrating the inevitable (to them) win. Drowning in hubris , was the quote from a minor Labor functionary.

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      OriginalSteve

      Thats what happens when your field of view is limited to your own navel…..

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    Travis T. Jones

    But Scomo’s coalition still believes in a carbon (sic) constrained economy junk science.

    They are still a threat to Australia.

    Revel in a small victory, but, the battle still rages.

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      If fear you speak the Truth, Mr. Jones.
      However, the “Black Hand” of Turncoat, Pyne, Bishop, etc. are history.
      That means he can command more authority in the Party Room (if he wants).
      He need not be concerned about white-anters threatening to roll him.
      He has most of the Monash crew in tact, especially Craig Kelly.
      He has some skeptical help in the senate in the form of Eric Abetz, spurred on with some help from Malcolm Roberts.
      Don’t give up hope just yet.

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        Travis T. Jones

        Good examples, karabar.

        Indeed there is hope with Kelly, Abetz & co. still there.

        Hoping Scomo turns up to parliament with a plastic bag full of coal, and proceeds to hand it out to the coal-fearing losers.

        Green heads would explode!

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      Travis T. Jones

      Frydenberg, Insiders: “We accept the science and we will continue to take action on [failed doomsday global warming].”

      https://twitter.com/InsidersABC/status/1129896749152161792

      Frydenberg, skynews:: “Our government accepts the science of [failed doomsday global warming].”

      https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/1130232368306933760

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        WXcycles

        Frydenberg, Insiders: “We accept the science and we will continue to take action on [failed doomsday global warming].”

        Yeah, “Whatever you do, don’t mention the war”, or exactly who keeps pushing to keep it going.

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        Science or seance? If theory don’t match the data, the data’s wro-ong. (

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        yarpos

        god how I hate that term …”the science” as if science has ever been anything but an evolving changing thing. Not something you take a cherry picked snapshot of and deem to be our view till infinity.

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      theRealUniverse

      So many world Govs are bought into this scam, itll take a BIG hit on the UN or IPCC (both) to do anything about it. Something big has to fall, someone has to be done for the scam. Not many Govts have the balls to totally reject it, even the (US) senate isnt crazy about Trumps (anti AGW) pro coal stance. Where is the sacking of the EPA? Where is the Whitehouse’s reprimand of NASA/NOAA for rigging climate data? The MSM US still harps on regardless of Trumps personal stand. US bloggers on here may want to add or subtract from this..?

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        Not a scam. AGW/climate change is a deliberate political construct which is leading towards a socialist style world government. Joshua is one of the key facilitators.

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          theRealUniverse

          I agree with that too, but a scam in the sense that is is scamming the people of trillions of tax and other monies from them. Therefore technically is is also a scam is it is deliberate.

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    Andrew McRae

    Clearly Mr Morrison is a pusher. He brought that one rock of coal into parliament for free just to get us hooked. Now the voters want more.
    This is almost certainly going to lead to a surge in coal dealing taking place under the cover of darkness. We should alert Border Force at once to hire extra staff. How else are we to ensure this precious cargo departs our country safely for market?

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    Enjoy Peter Fitzroy in Moderation

    I’m glad that the LNP won. I think the next 3 years will be tough for any party.

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      el gordo

      There is talk up thread that the Coalition are just lukewarmers, so nothing will change. If you were PM, what course would you take?

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        Enjoy Peter Fitzroy in Moderation

        The financial markets are predicting a crash in 2020, this is outside the government’s control, but it will be blamed for it. Last time, we used the Keysen reponse, and it seemed to work (at least we avoided a recession). This part say they are better economic managers, and I expect they will do even better.

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          el gordo

          The financial markets have been wrong before, Morrison will implement the tax cuts immediately because of bracket creep and that input should give the economy a boost.

          But it won’t be enough, infrastructure spending has to be part of the mix.

          Beijing is very unhappy with the Morrison win, what would you do in his place?

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            Enjoy Peter Fitzroy in Moderation

            What would I do? I’d panic, and hope to wake up. I’m not a politician

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              el gordo

              Keynes may no longer be appropriate, so you invite our biggest trading partner to explain where we stand with their Belt and Road.

              The good news, death by a thousand cuts.

              ‘The Coalition’s surprise election victory will see $84 million slashed from national broadcaster’s budget.’ SMH

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                Another Ian

                Chiefio points out that what Keynes said isn’t what has been applied as “Keynes said”.

                IIRC particularly when to prime the money pump and for how long.

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                Andrew McRae

                “The Coalition’s surprise election victory will see $84 million slashed from national broadcaster’s budget.”

                Brace yourselves for the propaganda. B1 and B2 tied to a chair in a dimly lit basement, a gun pointed at their heads. Caption: “Why are the Liberals holding the Bananas to ransom?”

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          Another Ian

          Is that going to be caused by Trump’s re-election?

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          sophocles

          The Unmoderated Peter Fitzroy said at 13.1.1:

          The financial markets are predicting a crash in 2020,

          Ha. It happened as a credit lurch in October 2017. The recession arrived in June 2018 and still has a year to run. That they should have noticed something wrong by now is par for the course.

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      Graeme No.3

      Yes, with Brazil and probably Indonesia exiting the Paris Accord along with the USA (and China, India ignoring it) there will be some thought about its value to Australia. More importantly with the sun “going quiet” the Climate will get cooler for the next 30 years. The australian grid is already struggling and increasing demand will make blackouts likely. With Adani (and the other mines -including Clive’s?) it would be easier for the Liberals to allow a power station using some of that coal. The Qld. Govt. would get more money (from electricity going to NSW, more GST and more economic boost due to employment around there) and the other States would like to do the same. Only the Greens would object and they would be isolated as Labor decides to ignore their losing policies.

      Australia will be the lucky country because it is closer to the Equator and would “miss out” on the worst of the cold, but we would have to keep our borders strong against a flood of Climate Refugees from places like Scotland, England, Canada etc.

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        el gordo

        ‘More importantly with the sun “going quiet” the Climate will get cooler for the next 30 years.’

        Might need to flesh this out a bit more, the mechanisms involved. Do you have a graph of this projection?

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          theRealUniverse

          See http://spaceweathernews.com/
          Last graph on page, ‘Last solar cycles comparason’ especially cycle 24 the one just finishing!

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            el gordo

            That is a good graph, but some scientists disagree with the argument that we are heading into a Maunder.

            “We expect Solar Cycle 25 will be very similar to Cycle 24: another fairly weak cycle, preceded by a long, deep minimum,” said panel co-chair Lisa Upton, Ph.D., solar physicist with Space Systems Research Corp.

            “The expectation that Cycle 25 will be comparable in size to Cycle 24 means that the steady decline in solar cycle amplitude, seen from cycles 21-24, has come to an end and that there is no indication that we are currently approaching a Maunder-type minimum in solar activity.”

            electroverse.net

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              theRealUniverse

              That is the problem. The sun is unpredictable as the real physical processes are chaotic and relatively uncertain.

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              Graeme No.3

              I don’t think that a Maunder minimum is that likely, more a Dalton or even something like the 1880-1905 downturn
              in the Northern hemisphere. It has been noted that sunspot cycles can run in 3′s and as the currnt one is heading for an end, the next 2 are likely to be similar.

              That said, the Dalton might have been initiated by the Laki eruption (and made worse by Tambora leading to the Year without Summer (1816). The second got off to a bang with Krakatau.
              Don’t stand near rumbling volcanoes.

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                el gordo

                ‘or even something like the 1880-1905 downturn …’

                That sounds more likely, ending in a Gleissberg.

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      AndyG55

      ” I think the next 3 years will be tough for any party”

      Would have been VERY TOUGH for all Australians if Labor/Green had won.

      We have seriously dodged a major hand grenade. !

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        Enjoy Peter Fitzroy in Moderation

        Andy – I agree, but I only get one post a day – you probably won’t see this one

        [Not correct Peter. I've turned all of your caught comments free whenever I see them. There is no daily restriction on you or anyone else. ] ED

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          el gordo

          Mr Fitz we all get caught by the automatic mod at some point, but our words are eventually released in due course.

          Alan Jones was scathing on Q & A, thats the last time they’ll invite him in.

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            yarpos

            I am not usually a JOnes fan, but that was gold. I usually avoid Q&A as they are usually just packed with the snotty , I am so superior “progressive” crowd. I thought I would watch just to hear the rationalisations and bleating. Jones was icing on the cake.

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          Adaminaby Angler

          Nah Fitz…my posts have to pass a “moderation gate” before they even get posted at all, so your case is nothing too special.

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    scaper...

    My pet hunk of coal is bigger than ScoMo’s.

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    theRealUniverse

    I think a few of those cow punching Vegan anti meat freaks may also have polarized a few farmers from anything todo with the looney leftos as well.

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      theRealUniverse

      maybe cow saving freaks

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        OriginalSteve

        One thing ive noticed, is that when every weird thing is excused and actually encouraged ( usually under threat of imprisonment should you object ), that things start to fall apart.

        The best medsage for ALL politicians is that they need to rein in PC and grow a backbone, otherwise they are unelectable…..

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        OriginalSteve

        I think QLDers were the grown ups in this election, they grabbed the pollies by the scruff of the necks ( figuratively speakubg ) are shook them till thier teeth rattled. Good. Need more of it….

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    peterg

    I wonder what the difference in poll outcomes would be between the following two questions.

    1. Do you believe in climate change and that big bad companies should pay to address it?
    2. Do you believe in climate change and that you should pay to address it?

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    Robber

    The big question now is what happens to the RET (Renewable Energy Target). Email your government member/ministers, congratulate them, and remind them of their promise to lower electricity prices by 25%.
    The Large-scale Renewable Energy Target, encourages investment in large-scale renewable power stations to achieve 33,000 gigawatt hours of additional renewable electricity generation by 2020. The target stays the same from 2020 to 2030 and, under the current law, new renewable energy power stations can continue to be accredited after 2020.
    Financial incentives were provided for small-scale solar systems over a 15 year deeming period until 2016. From 2017, the deeming period was reduced to 14 years and will continue to reduce by one year, every year until the scheme ends in 2030. For eligible solar hot water and air source heat pumps, financial incentives are provided over a 10-year deeming period. From 2022, the deeming period reduces by one year every year until the scheme ends in 2030.
    With investments in wind/solar already underway, the 2020 target of 33,000 GWhr will be exceeded.
    Large-scale generation certificate (LGC) spot prices fell from above $71.90 on 4 October 2018 to $39 on 14 February 2019.
    LGC forward prices for 2020 and 2021 have also fallen and are at $23.60 and $14.75 respectively.This is equal to a reduction in electricity prices of about $10/MWhr as renewables make up 20% of average supply.
    This means that “renewable” generators that have been receiving the market wholesale price of $80-110/MWhr (varies by State), have also been receiving an additional $71/MWhr, but forward prices suggest they will only receive an additional $15-24/MWhr. This will be a real test to see if they remain viable, and if new investment dries up.
    Watch for the screams from the “ruinable” investors as their money tree bears less goodies. This could be the start of lower electricity prices. What’s needed next is more lower cost gas through opening up exploration.

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      theRealUniverse

      ALL and ANY Renewable Energy Target should be abolished period!

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      RickWill

      Price of LGCs will continue to tank as excess intermittent generation capacity is installed. The only way to maintain the LGC price is by limiting supply on market and that would smack of collusion as there should be close to enough capacity to meet the 2030 RET already.

      Small scale intermittent will continue to get funding because there are state incentives and still more than 10 years on the deemed output to get a decent up front payment.

      Without an increased RET, it will be difficult for large scale projects to repay their capital.

      Alex Turnbull and Getup got together in the hope of securing a Labor win to ensure the RET was boosted:
      https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/alex-turnbull-teams-up-with-getup-as-the-voice-of-robocalls-in-key-victorian-seats/news-story/907a0402929d16e5e2b8bf193dca25f6

      Malcolm Turnbull’s son Alex Turnbull has teamed up with left wing activist group GetUp to record robocall messages urging voters in key Victorian seats not to vote Liberal in Saturday’s federal election.

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    Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

    76 seats equals Government.

    77 seats means you can appoint the Speaker, and still have the numbers on the floor.

    78 seats is insurance.

    Watch out for Matt Canavan now. There may be bigger things in store for him in energy related portfolios.

    Perhaps PM Morrison could take a leaf from Bob Hawke’s playbook, and have, say, an Energy Summit.

    Boy, would I like to go to something like that.

    Tony.

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    MarkMcD

    “ABC’s Vote Compass survey those identifying climate change as the most important issue had risen from 9 per cent in 2016 to 29 per cent in 2019.”

    That’s an amazingly bad statistic. ONLY 29% on an ABC poll where a majority of conservative Australians never go?

    The ABC has swung so far to the lunatic left that anyone with half a brain simply doesn’t bother, so what they are saying is even among their snowflake, vagina-head rioters, only 29% thought Climate an issue.

    The ABC needs a MAJOR makeover to get it back to being the media source where Australians went to get a real view of what was happening and why. And that needs to be backed with legislation so political nutjobs cannot simply take over the place again.

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      theRealUniverse

      ABC policy: Dont let a good (factual) story get in the way of bias…

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      liberator

      a very valid point – they are short-sighted. I didn’t consider only ABC web site readers bothered to vote compass… I know I did just to see some results. Not a real snapshot of the aussie population. Then 29% still means 71% have more important issues to worry about and the ABC couldn’t see that within their own readers?

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    Cynic of Ayr

    This site has trumpeted that the election was on Climate Change. It was not entirely so.
    Labor told what they were going to do, and it was terrible.
    The Coalition said it was doing no more and no less than it had been for 3 years, and it was thus less terrible.
    Labor then doubled down and said that they were going to rob everyone, including the Grannies, but were so stupid they didn’t know that the Grannies had a swarm of voting kids, grand kids and great-grand kids who were cranky about it.
    Morrison did not win the election. Shorten gave it to him.
    Shorten had only to be less savage on climate, less savage on Union support, and dumped the tax increases, and he’d have been there in a landslide!
    Morrison’s entire campaign was, “Look at me! I’m better then Shorten.”
    He was, but that’s no way to run a Country.
    Recall that Turnbull was a disaster, but it was often said that Morrison was “Turnbull Lite.”
    It was mid August 2018 when Turnbull was dismissed, and Morrison was elected PM. This election was mid May. So, Morrison has had nine months to unwind Turnbull. He did not.
    Bishop would still be Foreign Minister if she had not spat the dummy. Consider that. Bishop, now known to be an absolute vindictive wrecker – as is Turnbull – she would still be there. Morrison would not have sacked her. He doesn’t have the tools.
    The Poodle would still be there, but he thought Labor would win, and the gravy train would lessen.
    In fact, Morrison’s job was so poorly done, that Labor was to be elected, except for the fact that the Coalition was less toxic than Labor.
    Remember that! The Coalition was merely less toxic than Labor. Not better, just less bad.
    Many have said that here. I’ll be hit with, “So, Shorten would have been better?” which is nonsense. Of course not. That’s why he lost.
    Morrison did not say:
    He was going to remove solar subsidies;
    He would withdraw from Paris;
    He intended to build coal power stations, only that he would investigate them;
    He would cut spending. Instead, he said he would increase it! The surplus has come from income, not cut expenditure.
    Morrison has said he will govern from the centre. No, he should govern to the right of centre. That is where the future is, as all this other bullshit burns out, and self-destructs.
    And that, dear people, is why, although pleased that Labor will not be there to really shaft us, I fear Morrison will at least give us all a bit of a tickle, and blow a lot of money on so-called re-newables.

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      Kinky Keith

      That worries a few of us here.

      What’s next,

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      C of A. Your rant is far better than mine!

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      theRealUniverse

      One test maybe to see the power prices in 12 months. AND the taxes.

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        RickWill

        Q1 2019 provided record wholesale electricity price. With the vast sums of money going into intermittent generators and their connections, it is difficult to envisage circumstances where wholesale prices will drop.

        The reduction in the price of LGCs might provide a saving but the State governments all have ambitions to increase intermittent capacity and that comes at a high cost to consumers.

        SA may save a bit on gas if it gets the large capacity interconnection to NSW and the synchronous condensers but those projects are more than a year away and will need to be paid for once construction commences.

        The only way I see power prices going down is if the federal government provides some direct support. That means electricity supply is no longer an economic entity but a drag on the economy.

        Eliminating the RET might provide some downward pressure but the transfer payment to large scale intermittent is already declining rapidly and the deeming period for small scale intermittents has been declining for 5 years. That means the benefit of eliminating the RET is already diminishing.

        Current wholesale price in all NEM regions at 6pm on Monday is above $160/MWh apart from Qld, which is $157/MWh. This is a relatively balmy day across the country in the middle of May. Sun has set and wind is managing 20% of capacity, so fair, and yet wholesale price is over $100/MWh.

        Starting with less baggage, a reinvigorated Morrison government should take a good hard look at energy supply in this country and get away from fairy dust and hopium to make use of the abundant coal dust and certainty of supply from it. Please do not ask Finkel or any of his paid clowns consultants.

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      el gordo

      In defence of the new government.

      “The renewable energy target is going to wind down from 2020, it reaches its peak in 2020, and we won’t be replacing that with anything,” Mr Angus Taylor said.

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      yarpos

      I am constantly in awe of the fact that we have so many people here who know how to run a country.

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        ivan

        Not surprising if you run a company you should be able to run a country. The same fiscal requirements apply – don’t spend more than your income, take everything experts say with a spoon full of salt, don’t employ friends just because they are friends, watch your competitors and watch your back.

        The big problem with politicians is that they have either forgotten or didn’t know those rules.

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        Mark D.

        I am constantly in awe of the fact that we have so many people here who know how to run a country.

        It’s easier than you think if you use common sense.

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          yarpos

          I’ll take your word for it. I have done a few things that have taxed my meagre abilities, but running a country isnt one of them.

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    TdeF

    Malcolm Turnbull plotted the destruction of the conservative Liberal party since they accepted him as member, itself odd as his family was always Labor royalty. Neville Wran and others made pilgrammages to the Turnbull household as his mother’s uncle was the head of the British Labor party in the 1930s and an extremist against rermament and recommended his friend Adolph as a humble unambitious Christian.

    So why couldn’t anyone see it? More importantly, Malcolm broke all conventions to stall and get Morrison as PM, not the Dutton/Abbott pair. Once again Malcolm was wrong. He was wrong again to back Phelps against Sharma. LINO Julie Bishop turned down the fabulous Foreign Minister job and was prepared to represent the Shorten government in Washington!
    Tough. As all the rats have now jumped ship before the election, having left holes in the hull and Pyne submarines which are utterly useless, the good ship Liberal is still afloat and sailing off, without the many rats. Hopefully we can stop building Green diesel submarines too.

    But then Malcolm was never a Conservative Liberal and his efforts to sink what he could not control have totally backfired, helping snatch defeat from a certain Labor/Green victory. Even Phelps must be pretty annoyed at the fickle and arrogant Turnbull family.

    We still must get the $444Million back, a personal gift he gave, an amazing Captain’s pick without any explanation or request or even tender and to Lucy’s Green board friends. Surely that personal and unvetted largess cannot stand? What happened to due process, to tendering, to even applying for 7 1/2 tons of gold bullion? Saving the Great Barrier Reef? Not according to Professor Peter Ridd. Science? No, public theft. It should not be possible in a democracy.

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      TdeF

      As for the anger in Malcolm’s electorate at his treatment, Malcolm must be thrilled that all those angry people threw out his non Liberal replacement for an excellent qualified Liberal candidate, one he absolutely refused to support even with a nice comment.

      Malcolm Turnbull will be remembered as our only Green PM.

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      Kinky Keith

      MalEx444 = Australians are Fools.

      Scomo signed off on that “gift” ??

      KK

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    a happy little debunker

    In 2013 the swing was 3.5% to Abbott
    In 2016 the swing was 3.1% against Turnbull
    In 2019 the swing was 0.5% to Morrison

    Now tell me Delcons don’t matter!

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    Zane

    Rent-seeker vested interests like the CEO of Flow Power are rabbiting on about seeking clarity from the new government on the ” transition to renewables “.

    I wish these types a speedy transition to unemployment or delivering pizzas.

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    thingadonta

    Sportsbet don’t even think you need to have an election to win an election-they paid out bets on Labor 2 days before the election because they were so sure they were going to win-cost them $1.3 million. Of course, obviously one deserves to be rewarded just for betting on Labor winning.

    They also said ‘pundits rarely get elections wrong’.

    But like the ABC, there is ‘no bias’ at Sportsbet.

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      TdeF

      Sportsbet showed how idiotic gamblers can be when they are playing with other people’s money. I am sure the Sportsbet management will look very closely at who made the decision to pay out on a race before the race was even run and why? It was not an advertisement for responsible gambling and whoever did it would not get a job with any bookie I know.

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        TdeF

        About as clever as Julie Bishop’s application for Labor Ambassador to the US before the election. Who would employ her now?

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          TdeF

          And her sincere congratulations to Scott Morrison. Perhaps she still wants the US ambassador’s job? Enjoy retirement.

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            Graeme No.3

            I would think that a recently retired ex-PM would be a better, and far more likely, choice.

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              TdeF

              And already with the respect of the US President and half of Europe. Three degrees and one in international politics, you could not get a more qualified ambassador, rather than the usual jobs for the boys.

              For the next four years, our relationship with the US President and with China are the two most important issues to confront Australia. Not the UN, the EU or even the UK, but the US and China. No one is more qualified, more energetic, more experienced and with more international respect than Tony Abbott. Then he has an economics degree and in Japan, his credentials as an Oxford blue in boxing would mean instant kudos, so important in Japan. A martial arts expert. Personally, it would be the perfect move for Australia and for Tony, a unique opportunity to place Australia on the world stage with real credibility. It is really an exciting opportunity in the interests of everyone. Except the Greens and GetUP.

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          GD

          Who would employ her now?

          Channel 9, as a barrel girl?

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        robert rosicka

        So if you bet on Labor to lose and Labor to win and Liberal to win you would have had three payouts .

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    theRealUniverse

    Greentards should read this.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/05/back_to_the_medieval_green_world.html
    “Making wind turbines and solar panels would also be impossible without fossil fuels. A wind turbine needs lots of steel plus concrete, carbon fiber, and glass polymers as well as many other refined metals — copper, aluminum, rare earths, zinc, and molybdenum. Solar panels and batteries need high-purity ingredients — silicon, lead, lithium, nickel, cadmium, zinc, silver, manganese, and graphite, all hard to make in backyard charcoal-fired furnaces. Transporting, erecting, and maintaining wind and solar farms plus their roads and transmission lines need many pieces of diesel-powered machinery.”

    The total impossibility of a greentard medieval world. Dream on you wackko green voters.

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      Latus Dextro

      It bears reiterating:
      The Green Death is de-population, de-industrialisation, destitution and despair.
      It is nothing other than the jumped up old-hat murderous ideology of Marxism and its derivatives, all of which should be forever expunged from the lexicon of civilised political discourse.

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      RickWill

      The Greens managed to get 10% of the vote across Australia. They dominate the inner city set. The seat of Melbourne was held by a Green with 51% of the primary vote. The seat of Sydney saw Greens get 17% of the primary. 17% of voters in the seat of Adelaide voted Greens. Greens managed 23% of the primary vote in Canberra. The inner cities are infested with Greens.

      Inner cities have become refuges for dingbats and reporters who are themselves dingbats. It is a self-sustaining unreality circus that is leeching off productive workers in the suburbs and country areas.

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        theRealUniverse

        These are the dingbats who just live on social media on their phones all day and know nothing.

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        Bobl

        However the relative concentration of Green votes in ironically areas that have no idea what land care is about makes them vulnerable. A well funded campaign in the inner cities exposing the dogma the Greens use to herd their cats could have a major impact. But these people are resistant to science so any campaign needs to out the evil. IE the grannies dying in winter, the environmental impact of 100% renewable energy, the safety issues of EVs, the impact on children of rainbow cult propaganda in schools. The real impacts of unconstrained immigration (as opposed to what political correctness allows to be acknowledged), the impacts of not permitting GMO products. Impacts of banning agrichemicals. (The DDT ban killed millions) banning Glyphosate could even precipitate a famine.

        Many Greens are deluded into thinking there is no downside to their activism, shown the true outcomes they will see through the lies.

        For example reversing the CO2 induced 15% increase in plant growth over the last 30 years would result in not enough food to feed humanity. You never hear about this issue.

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        yarpos

        “Inner cities have become refuges for dingbats and reporters who are themselves dingbats. It is a self-sustaining unreality circus that is leeching off productive workers in the suburbs and country areas.”

        great summary :-)

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    Roy Hogue

    Have your losers talked to our losers yet? It sounds like they could come up with one blockbuster of a pity-party by pooling resources. ;-)

    On the other hand, maybe that’s not such a good idea because they might come up with a blockbuster of a counterattack. :-(

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    Vladimir

    May I suggest that honourable contributors to this blog forget about their differences, big and small, and start hitting one target – Royal Commission into “Climate Change”.

    I refuse to believe that this country has no people / way to overcome the ABC, et al, and force the new Government to have an honest look into the matter.

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      Kinky Keith

      Brilliant perspective there Vladimir.

      If we have honest government we are entitled to a full accounting for the actions of MalEx444 and other Australian politicians who have “moved money” in ways that seem barely justifiable let alone legal.

      KK

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    Greg

    So Labour and the left were insisting this was a Climate Change election .Confident that the election was in the bag.This is the third time they have gone to and lost due to climate policy.Turnbull almost lost due to his warmist leanings and the fact he knifed Abbott.What amazes me is the loser left pollies and presenters yesterday were insisting that the Coalition must Pick up their game re Climate Change.Suddenly they had forgotten it was the Climate Change election and they were rejected.The talking heads on their ABC were all in head nodding agreement,not one mentioned the obvious.

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      Bill in Oz

      The ABC is not that good on the OBVIOUS.
      Far far better at ignoring the facts
      And seeing only their own dreams.

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    theRealUniverse

    Bureau Of Mismanagement
    Mt Stayplton rain radar has been dead for about 3 days..
    “Mt Stapylton Radar has developed a fault and staff are investigating. During this time please access nearby Marburg radar in addition to high resolution satellite imagery.”
    And its not the first time in last 12 months..

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    el gordo

    ‘Despite trailing in most opinion polls for years, Scott Morrison’s Liberal-National coalition closed down the gap with a relentless attack on Labor’s pledge to take tougher action on climate change and strip tax perks from wealthy Australians. For Labor leader Bill Shorten, the loss is akin to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 failure to win the U.S. presidency.’

    Bloomberg

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    pat

    theirABC ignores the voters on AM, Breakfast & The World Today:

    20 May: ABC AM: Slowing economy, climate change challenges for new gov’t: economists
    By Peter Ryan on AM
    Economists say the new Morrison government must now take action on climate change and heed the message from the ousting of former prime minister Tony Abbott.
    Guests:
    Jo Masters, chief economist, Ernst & Young
    Sarah Hunter, chief Australian economist, BIS Oxford Economics

    20 May: ABC AM: Back to work: Coalition plans new Cabinet amid calls for new NEG
    By Stephanie Borys on AM
    Returning Prime Minister Scott Morrison must finalise his new-look frontbench and then get to work on policies, including on climate change and energy, amid calls from some quarters to re-examine the National Energy Guarantee.

    20 May: ABC Breakfast: Election result gives Coalition climate action opportunity, Steggall says
    The new member for Warringah has pledged stronger action on climate change, and as she sits on the crossbench, she could have a key say if the Coalition falls short of a majority.

    20 May: ABC The World Today: Election victory a chance for new reform discussion: Melinda Cilento
    By Eleanor Hall on The World Today
    What do business leaders want to see from the newly elected Morrison government?
    Economist Melinda Cilento, chief executive of the Committee for Economic Development of Australia (CEDA), speaks with The World Today’s Eleanor Hall.
    She says both business and the community are looking for certainty around climate change and energy…

    20 May: ABC The World Today: Kerryn Phelps urges climate action, concedes defeat to Sharma
    On The World Today with Eleanor Hall
    Dr Phelps thanked her supporters and urged Prime Minister Scott Morrison to focus on a key issue highlighted in her campaign for re-election.

    SHUT DOWN THE ABC.

    didn’t realise Jo had begun a new thread, so have been happily posting stuff, including one about “extreme fuel poverty” in RE-obsessed Scotland, etc on Jo’s “Weekend Unthreaded”.

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      Bill in Oz

      Pat I think that most Australians still want to keep a reformed ABC
      But the likelihood of reform is very low
      About the same as the Roman Catholic church circa 1500 CE

      Ummmm ? What to do ?
      Here is one option : Morrison issues a decree to ALL government members & ministers & staff to not appear on the ABC at all. No recognition or accreditation of ABC reporters or columnists etc…
      In other words a complete boycott of the ABC.
      They’ll scream and they’ll be angry.
      But who cares.
      Let the ABC be ignored & shunned until it reforms itself or is reformed.

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      theRealUniverse

      “Economists say the new Morrison government must now take action on climate change”. so these ‘economists’ idiots want an economic collapse?

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        Bill in Oz

        Babies always cry loud.
        It’s meant to drive us all nuts
        Tune out
        Move out
        Shun & ignore
        Then they eventually stop
        From utter exhaustion

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      Hanrahan

      Dr Phelps thanked her supporters and urged Prime Minister Scott Morrison to focus on a key issue highlighted in her campaign for re-election.

      To be read as: We lost but that’s no reason NOT to implement our policies.

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    boof

    The big business groups have been captured by the global warmers instead of demanding cheap coal and gas power. Today Innes was out making a fool of himself.

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    robert rosicka

    All Lil Bill had to say was yes I support Adani and signed the union pledge and it’s possible the result could have been different.
    Having said that it was obvious the left were in control and had a short leash .

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    Hanrahan

    Listening to Matt Canavan on Credlin he is talking dams, including Hells Gate and northern coal fired power plants.

    I’m a northerner and will push self interest but both projects are worthy. Hells Gate, if my memory serves me well will dwarf the Burdekin Falls Dam and, being on the western slopes of the divide can feed water into the western plains easily. Why not grow the rice and other irrigated crops where the water is rather than piping water south at ridiculous [impossible?] cost? The Black Soil Planes have been named for good reason. Before there was bitumen all the way to the Isa, even light rain made the road impassable, the wet dirt built up under the guards. The local wags said even the fence posts would grow.

    The case for a northern coal-fired station is sound. There is no base load generation north of Rocky and, to be honest, the 275KV line is from Gladstone. That line passes near the coal fields and ends at Townsville. Generation can then use existing lines N,S & W. The north is a BIG area to be getting supply from so far south.

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      Hanrahan

      I know the difference between “plains” and “planes” BTW. I hit post instead of preview. :(

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        Another Ian

        H

        You’d better check for salt layers under those black soil plains before you start pouring water on them.

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    Lionell Griffith

    Have you ever noticed that the demented green/leftist/progressive/power/control/more-government-forever parties are for democracy when the vote goes in their favor and against it when the vote goes against them?

    When you begin to understand they have a character that is a mm wide and a micron deep, you begin to understand that a vote for them is a vote against yourself. There is no there, there except pretense and misdirection. Reality has nothing to do with what they are selling.

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    Another Ian

    We missed an even bigger bullet!

    “Mann and Lewandowsky’s Climate Lament: “We Have Lost Australia For Now” ”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/19/mann-and-lewandowskys-climate-lament-we-have-lost-australia-for-now/

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      TdeF

      “A coalition of a small number of bad actors now threaten the survivability of our species”.

      I think he is referring to himself and Lewandowsky. There is nothing sillier in real science than a cognitive scientist. It’s a made up name. There should be a game for making up professions. Mann is a tree ring physicist. He and Lewandowsky and Cook do threaten our species with their non rational science.

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        David Wojick

        Hold on, I am a cognitive scientist, specializing in the structure and dynamics of complex issues. I also do the science of science. Cognition is certainly there to be studied and not just by psychologists. Just because some of us are AGW crooks does not mean our field is fake.

        I also do animals (joke intended). http://horsecognition.blogspot.com

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          TdeF

          Sorry, I had no idea. What I have read about Lewandowsky and Cook is just drivel, reviewing papers without understanding them purely on the basis of what they think is being said without any attempt to understand what is being said and this from analysis of phrases and key words. That’s not science.

          As for selecting just 100 respondents from a 10,000 member survey just so Cook can claim his infamous 97% agree with man made global warming stuff, that is not science at all. Any study which changes or cherry picks the data to suit the preformed conclusion is the opposite of rational science. Leaving out 99% of the respondents and even every single meteorologist surveyed has no good explanation with fits with science.

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            David Wojick

            Yes it is pure junk, for the reasons you say. Plus you can accept AGW without believing action is needed. These are the “lukewarmers” like my friend Pat Michaels, who think a little warming is good and that is all there is too it.

            There are really three schools of thought. The alarmists, the lukewarmers and the true skeptics (like me). A real cognitive scientist would know that

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    liberator

    I’ve been thinking we’re in for a bumpy ride economy wise for quite some time even with the libs running the show before the election. Lib/Lab wasn’t too sure until the election call was made. Labour in power would have seen us crash and burn. Liberal in power, we may still have a very bumpy ride, maybe even a crash. But at least they don’t plan to fritter away our $ on subsidies, batteries, electric cars, still higher energy costs, C02 reduction, the Paris accord, all paid for with increased taxes.

    I’m still not too confident how things will go – some restraint is certainly needed but I’m not as worried as I would have been had Labour got in. I don’t negative gear, I don’t get franking credits, I have some super. I’m just on the cusp of being called a baby boomer but I’ve never had much of a free ride as some seem to think we do or they are entitled to. No first home buyers scheme, or no stamp duty or thousands for having a baby.

    I still have a mortgage – my house is not worth million’s my gas running costs have gone through the roof to the point I don’t run my gas heater anymore. My power bills skyrocketed – my only solution was solar panels – so now I heat using RC air-conditioning. My kids struggle to find work. My wages are lucky to go up by CPI each year. I went four years without a pay rise.

    This is what matters to most Aussies – not 400ppm of C02 in the atmosphere not paying millions to the UN while other countries pump 1000000′s of tonnes of C02 into the atmosphere. Meanwhile greenies tell us how to live, stop burning and digging up coal, give up your jobs while doing exactly the opposite. Vegans tell us what to eat while ruining peoples livelihoods. While climate scientists traipse around the world in jets to go to never-ending back slapping junket conferences to get their next grant to find another “impact” of CO2 on the Earth.

    Latest new – Fairies in the bottom of the garden now feared extinct due to climate change, global warming, climate disruption or kids burning their fairy carboard cut-outs…

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    el gordo

    ‘US President Donald Trump has likened Scott Morrison’s shock election win to his own presidential victory and the United Kingdom’s Brexit vote.’ ABC

    Jo Nova correctly predicted a win on every occasion, just sayin’

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      robert rosicka

      Trump win was obvious even to this Aussie but I wasn’t 100% hopefull after Bob Hawke passed away .
      Polls had an error margin big enough at 49 – 51 to allow for exactly what happened.

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        el gordo

        There is a mathematician in Queensland who correctly predicted Trump, Brexit and Morrison, using algorithms and the twittersphere.

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    theRealUniverse

    This is telling..
    from https://www.iceagenow.info/windmill-feasibility/
    “A 2 megawatt windmill is made up of 260 tones of steel requiring 300 tons of iron ore and 170 tons of coking coal ..etc..it will never generate as much energy as what is used to make it…”
    Multiply that by the number in each windfarm….

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    Serge Wright

    The oddity about the win is that we now see the blue collar workers voting LNP and the rich inner city champagne drinking elites voting Labor. Which all goes to prove that too many people didn’t consider themselves wealthy enough to survive a Labor government.

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      Hanrahan

      Same same in the US. Politics makes for strange bedfellows.

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      TdeF

      As the remarkable Lady Thatcher said, socialism is fine until you run out of other people’s money. Venezuela shipping free oil to Cuba. Australia selling coal they were not allowed to use themselves. The attack on successful democratic countries never stops and in some cases has been very successful at impoverishing whole nations. Australia at last is fighting back.

      If there was one great thing about this election, it is that Labor and the Greens were so certain of success, they told the truth about how they were going to rip off everyone. Warmist commentator Alan Kohler now advises that Labor should have said nothing or lied. Sure Alan. Never signal theft. The victims might wake up.

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    Hanrahan

    This rubbishing of Qld reminds me of the bad ole days when airlines captains would say: Wind your watches back 20 years and 1 hour, we are in Queensland.

    At that time we were the only state with free hospitals,. Also no estate tax, no cigarette tax, no pokies and had done away with the six o’clock swill years before Vic did. I remember 6 o’clock closing in both Vic and NSW. Condescendingly NSW pubs could reopen at 8 pm AFTER the “workers” had gone home to their families. Did I mention “condescending”?

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      yarpos

      and to some extent it was true (my family is from the Maryborough area)

      all that tax free stuff (remember the cheap fuel?) came through subsidies from the other States.

      its good to see QLD prospering and paying its own way for a long time now. I think it suffered from a massive chip on the shoulder for a long long time and a resulting irrational pride in being a QUEENSLANDER!! which you still hear echoes of today.

      Its a fine place, and has positives and negatives just like any other place on OZ.

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        Another Ian

        The cheaper fuel was because Qld didn’t have a fuel tax.

        When the High Court held that such state taxes were illegal he Commonwealth stepped in as the collector so Qld had to act like it had a tax and then refund.

        The Bligh government cancelled the refund under a blast of BS.

        (IIRC)

        This came up on a Steve Austin late night radio program which was “required listening” as the radio in the vehicle I was using was stuck there on ABC (since changed).

        I used to wonder how he got away with a lot of things that weren’t ABC agenda like that without being sacked. Realised he brought them up “ABC-line” and relied on people phoning in to get things going.

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    Aeronomer

    We keep seeing this across Western nations. About half the population has lost their minds, and the other half are desperately trying to save their democracies. Overall, I’d say it’s still up in the air.

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      yarpos

      I blame the Internet (more specifically social media) and a global average IQ of 82

      Too many dills , believing too much BS and no ability/skills to learn for themselves.

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        toorightmate

        yarpos,
        When tetraethyl lead was removed from petrol, IQs were supposed to rise.
        The opposite has happened!!!

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          yarpos

          ahhhh if only that was it, I might even become an EV fan. Sadly , I think the comedy (no required viewing documentary) Idiocracy had it right. The low IQ people tend to outbreed the high IQ people.

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        Hanrahan

        Point taken about the state grants but an important component of that was “growth”. and interstate migration is growth. Millions of southerners voted with their feet and moved to the Gold Coast.

        Point is Joh used that cash wisely and developed the state. SA has as much mineral wealth as Qld but they are yet to take advantage of Olympic Dam even. They are STILL on the grants commission teat.

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        Hanrahan

        The global average IQ SHOULD be 100 but you may well be right. 100 may be the average of white Europeans but THAT is a forbidden topic to discuss.

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    Lewis P Buckingham

    The Lib Nationals are close to a final event horizon.One short of an absolute majority.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2019/results/overall?embed=true&abcnewsembedheight=260

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    Bill in Oz

    Off Topic as it is not about elections.
    Rather it’s Australia with a complete summuray of the BOM’s ACORN 1 Vs ACORN 2..
    It’s all a big hash !

    https://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/2019/05/20/acorn-sat-2-0-nation-wide-summary/

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    Penguinite

    The only climate changer that won was the Steggall in Warrngah. I’m sad for all the voters that have missed out on parliamentary representation after being duped by Get-Up.

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      yarpos

      Bandt, Haines, all the Greens in the Senate. Thats just off the top of my head with superficial knowledge. I am sure there are more

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        TdeF

        Bandt has been the only Green seat in the democratically elected House of Representatives, for the seat of (inner) Melbourne. A lifelong communist who pretends to be concerned about aborigines and climate and the workers, his motto is “tell them what they want to hear and when you get power, do what you like”. His seat is completely irrelevant in a Liberal/National house of Representatives but at least he has employment, which is surprising in itself.

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      robert rosicka

      Nah we got one in Indi as well , a green that wears orange as a disguise just like the last one .
      If only the Libs had of dis endorsed Sophie we would still be a liberal seat .

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      TdeF

      The forces against Tony Abbott did what they did to John Howard, convinced voters that they could please someone by removing Abbott. In fact they have lost their voice in parliament and all the good that Abbott did over the many years.

      They will miss Tony Abbott as their local champion but their loss is the country’s gain as he is free now to represent his country. Like Maxine McKew who removed John Howard, Steggall will be very bitter when she is thrown out in the next election.

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        el gordo

        Tony could return in a few years and win his seat back, but until then he needs to remain active. My guess is that Abbott will continue his roving lectures on climate change, totally free to do and say whatever he likes.

        The MSM will probably ignore him.

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      Bill in Oz

      There is also the Green Lite,
      Reebekha Sharkie
      She was re-elected here in Mayo
      In SA
      Bugger !

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    Hivemind

    Not “Kerry Phelps”
    Kerryn Phelps

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    Andrew

    48 hours after Labour lost the ‘unloseable election’ and I’m “still feeling it”

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    Wes George

    The good news is that Australia is like the bloke on death-row who has had his execution stayed pending an appeal. Morrison didn’t win a mandate to quash climate hysteria or roll back the march of collectivism.

    Scomo said it best: It’s a miracle! Whoo hoo! Isn’t my wife amazing and how good is Australia? That’s the depth of his grasp of the gravity of our existential crisis.

    Meanwhile, the Left will regroup with a less invidious face than Shorten’s mug and be back next week to resume hammering home the last nails in our national coffin.

    The Liberals are still the same spineless piss-weak party they were last week. Look at Abbott. His idea of a successful political career is that he’s a loser, not a quitter. That sums up the whole Coalition mindset, doesn’t it? They offer little agenda, no holistic narrative vision going forward, just that they ain’t gonna quit until like Monty Python’s Black Knight they are simply an irrelevant limbless torso.

    And conservative voters are still the spineless political shrinking violets they were when the pollsters rolled around to ask how they’re gonna vote.

    We have surrendered all the nation’s institutions to the Left, who gutted them and are now parading around in those institutional skin suits rounding up the stragglers, barricading the campuses. And the Liberals and Nationals are singing: they came for the Deniers, but we are not Deniers, then they came for the Catholics, but we aren’t Catholics.

    True, Australians aren’t total idiots. When Labor tell us: We will tax the bejesus out of you, your business, your house and your dear old mum’s super, that’s not a winning ticket. But there is little joy in seeing Labor schooled in how NOT to sell their agenda. The same agenda will be back, slicker next time, disguised. Remember Rudd, the “fiscal conservative?” The take home message according to the ABC is that Labor and Greens should ruthlessly lie even more shamelessly next election cycle.

    We bought some time with this election, but the grand arc of history is no longer with the lucky country. We have conceded way too much. We gave away our children’s education. We let them rewrite our history. We lost the inner cities. We still fund the ABC and SBS. We quit our religion. We sold our ports to the Chinese. The Left owns our research institutions and controls the funding. They set agenda, write the human resources guidelines, and direct our national narratives. They stock the libraries and rank opinion on the search engines. They compose the songs, playwright the theatre, act the films, paint the murals, brainstorm the ad campaigns and fund the festivals. They own the publishing houses and even decide what you can say and cannot say safely in public.

    That’s why opinion polls no longer work. We are no longer free to speak our minds. We didn’t think it could happen here or that if it did we’d give up our freedom with silent resignation. All that is left now is to make our serfdom official. We’re just waiting for the next Labor/Green coalition to win an election. They only have to win once, like the National Socialists in the Weimar Republic. We’ve let the social thread become that bare.

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      TdeF

      I think Morrison is not the firebrand conviction politician Abbott is. He is a steady worker though. Whatever he believes about man made CO2, he recognizes that Australia is paying a very high price for nothing at all.

      As for opinion polls, a lot of conservative voters will not talk to pollsters. They are offended by the whole idea of an intrusion into their lives by people wanting their time for nothing. They are often not politically active either. However even knowing this, the polling companies ignored the intrinsic bias in polling and they were all wrong.

      However Andrew Bolt did call it. Many others saw it happening. While Morrison was saying very little, he was not promising to tax everyone to death, as Bill Shorten was. Shorten may have seen it as a brilliant way to ignore the older voters and take all their money, but these people have children and people are aspirational. These groups do not see making governments rich does anything but strip them of their hard work. No one votes to be robbed.

      As warmist columnist Alan Kohler said, he should have said nothing or lied, but Labor were so confident of victory, every mad ripoff scheme on the planet was proposed. Really, half the cars electric in 11 years? Who actually believes that nonsense?

      And Morrison just let him do it. That was very effective. We will see if he is just as effective in government but as the man who actually stopped the boats, he gets things done. Which is why we do not expect the boat invasion which would have surely followed a Shorten victory.

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        TdeF

        As Andrew Bolt writes today though, the Liberal primary vote also fell, if only by 0.9%.

        So it wasn’t that the Coalition won the election, but that Labor lost votes, especially in Queensland where Labor can only fall another 4 seats before it doesn’t exist.

        Really unpopular policies forced Labor voters to vote for someone else, but not for the Liberals. This fits the concept that people barrack for teams and will never vote for the traditional opposition, but they will punish and barrack for someone else. Thanks to Palmer and a host of other candidates, Labor voters had somewhere to register their protest vote. Instead of chasing the mad middle, Labor would have done well not to presume their traditional voters would stay loyal no matter how mad and greedy Labor became.

        It makes no sense to tell Australians that we cannot use our own coal or dig up more. It is our largest export and we are not the only country in the world. 98% of all CO2 comes from overseas. They should be sending us cash for nothing, making us rich. If only so we can buy their useless windmills.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    Victory must immediately cemented with concrete action.
    You can take a cue from the adventures of Trump.
    The Left never gives up.
    Regulation must be reduced.
    The left never gives up.
    The infrastructure must be built robustly enough to suffer another bought of neglect.
    The Left never gives up.
    Ditto the Military.
    The Left never gives up.
    When the moderates win, they wish to back to the common sense of earning a living.
    When the Left loses they don’t eat as well.
    The Left never gives up.
    Climate change will morph as necessary, or be replaced by a new cause of the day.
    The Left never gives up.
    More government, more control over people’s lives, more confiscation of earned wealth for redistribution are only possible with control.
    The Left never gives up.
    Someone must do less well. They are victims. Someone will do well. they are evil exploiters. Your may think things are better. Your
    eye deceive you. They are awful. We are but a few years from collapse. Only by giving money and power to the left can we survive.
    The Left never gives up.
    You may think that by working harder and smarter you will do well. You may think that a rising tide lifts all boats. You may think that as things get better folks will notice, and the unique experiment that OZ has been will continue to prosper. One hopes you are correct.
    But the Left will never give up. They may see the future as modest prosperity with absolute stultifying social control, as in China.
    They may wish rapid redistribution of assets (and consequent poverty) like Venezuela. Or they may wish a parliamentary socialism that worships Gaia by blowing up coal plants.
    The Left never gives up.

    The burden is to quickly translate electoral success into tangible results, so that when the left next takes power to tear it down,
    they can do less damage and much good will remain. Perhaps a real prosperity can prolong power and actually improve the lives of all.
    Even if things get much better for all, and peace and prosperity reign:

    The “workers” will be oppressed.
    The earth will be despoiled.
    The wealth will be improperly distributed.
    Society will be unfair.
    The government presiding over a period of peace and prosperity will be irredeemably evil.
    The Left never gives up.

    Congratulations: best to roll up your sleeves and get stuff done whilst you can…..

    because…..

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      Lionell Griffith

      The left never gives up.

      That is why we can’t give up either. If we do, we lose.

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    pat

    with word going around that Trump is about to release FISA and other documents, and with Comey, Brennan, Clapper & others all pointing their fingers at one another, it now seems UK Telegraph is trying to get ahead of the narrative with a terribly written story that shows – by the way it is written – that they have never informed their readers of the shocking revelations of Spygate/Coupgate etc. the wording even makes it seem the dossier is somehow genuine! reminder – Trump is due in Britain early June:

    behind paywall, but comments can be read:

    19 May: UK Telegraph: Theresa May’s spy chiefs were briefed on explosive Christopher Steele dossier before Donald Trump
    By Ben Riley-Smith, US Editor and Robert Mendick, Chief Reporter
    Theresa May’s spy chiefs were secretly briefed on an explosive dossier of claims about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia before the US president was made aware of its existence, The Telegraph can reveal.
    The heads of MI5 and MI6 and one of Mrs May’s most trusted security advisers were told about former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s memos on the Trump campaign in the weeks after his November 2016 election victory.
    Mr Trump himself would only learn of the document, which included an allegation strenuously denied by Mr Trump that he hired prostitutes to perform a lurid sex act in a Moscow hotel, in January 2017 when alerted by the FBI before taking office.
    The disclosure risks deteriorating…
    BELOW SUBSCRIPTION – TO THE RIGHT – 123 COMMENTS WHICH CAN BE EXPANDED AND READ
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/19/theresa-mays-spy-chiefs-briefed-explosive-chistopher-steele/

    Ben Riley Smith has lots of tweets on his Twitter page about this, below the old tweet at the top, if you care to check it out.

    20 May: Daily Mail: British spy chiefs were briefed about dossier on Trump’s ties to Russia that contained lewd allegations about the President and prostitutes – months before he even knew it existed
    •Christopher Steele told one of Theresa May’s top security advisors about memos
    •His dossier contained allegations that Trump hired prostitutes in a Moscow hotel
    •It also contained allegations of Russian interference in Trump’s 2016 campaign
    •May’s advisor was told about the ‘dirty dossier’ before Trump found out about it
    By Hannah Dawson For The Daily Mail and Chris Dyer For Mailonline
    A report by US Special Counsel Robert Mueller, published this year, concluded there was no collusion by the Trump campaign…
    Another claim – that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen met with Russian officials in Prague – was also not stood up and no evidence of it was found by Mueller.
    Steele, who runs a private intelligence firm, had supplied a dossier to an outside company used by Hillary Clinton’s election committee…
    No10 sources state Mrs May was never briefed on it…
    Fustion had been paid $1.8million via lawyers representing the Democrats and the Hillary Clinton campaign…READ ALL
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7047865/British-spies-briefed-dossier-Trumps-ties-Russia-months-knew-existed.html

    disgraceful reporting by DM and the Tele.

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    Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia

    Bob Browneye. Yesterday’s snowflake.

    Pumped hydro for the Franklin River. Bring it on. Build big dam, make green energy.

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    Dave in the States

    Unless I missed it, there has been no MSM report of the OZ election in the US. It’s like it never even happened. If it does get reported I expect no mention that it was a CC issue election. Likewise, I only saw one report on the yellow vests protests in the US media and they only described it as anti-Gov protests, carefully hiding that it was anti-carbon tax. The US MSM has become so mendacious it is criminal.

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      David Wojick

      I posted quotes from the NYT yesterday and someone posted a link to the WashPo coverage, so our green Dem leaders have seen it. But definitely not a big story, except on skeptic blogs, there pretty big.

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      theRealUniverse

      Dave, I mentioned this before. The US MSM still prattles on about AGW regardless of Trumps oppinion.

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        yarpos

        same everywhere really , its hard to see what it will take for them to wake up

        I guess the doom porn fills articles and attracts clicks and views

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    Analitik

    I just finished watching Q&A for the first time ever and it was surprising how much anger was expressed early on by audience and callers with Labor’s economic policies. But the show reverted to CAGW as it progressed and the young Labor representatives showed they have learnt NOTHING from Saturday, unlike Albanese and Fitz-Gibbon who didn’t mention Climate Change once when interviewed about Labor’s future.

    Jim Chalmers showed he knows sweet FA about finances when he carried on about renewables being cheaper than fossil fuel plants and Ming Long showed that not all Asians are good at math with her prattling about climate change, its costs and how renewables are both cheaper AND more reliable than fossil fuel plants. I hope these represent the future of Labor leadership because it will ensure they won’t form government for a generation.

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      robert rosicka

      Just seen an excerpt of Allan Jones schooling an audience member and a greentard panellist and was impressed at how he did it .

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        theRealUniverse

        Just rechecked that Q&A. Yep AJ gave it to her when he asked her how much CO2 was in the atmosphere, which she hadnt a clue “but climate change is real”. “O Im not a scientist” no she is certainly not educated either by the sound of it. In fact none of them are. She said “we ask scientists..” yep the ones you PAY to tell you anything (lies) you want to know to support your agenda. He should have asked if she heard about Agenda 21.

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    Let he who among you is without carbon emission, cast the first nugget!

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    Congratulations, Guys. It’s just a first step, but a nice step indeed. Cheers -

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    Election 2019: What happened to the climate change vote we heard about?

    Because you heard about it from a deranged lick-spittle media, that’s what happened.

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    graham dunton

    Those attempting to destroy all, for a cause, were certainly no neuroscientists!
    It takes a lot, for things to sink into Australians, it must first penetrate, tiredness, screeching kids, footy , long weekends, and telling bedtime stories,
    But finally, the hip pocket nerve was stimulated. Electrical stimulation I believe!

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    Bobl

    Now is the time to tackle your local members and make it clear to them that the primary reason you preferenced them is that they were more likely to be receptive to ditching loony climate policy than Labor.

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    PeterS

    I can see the likelihood that by the time we have the next election the climate change nonsense will be rejected even more by the public as they wake up to reality. So if ALP+Greens think they can win the next election by keeping the climate change issue on their main agenda then good. That will about seal their demise for good.

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    PeterS

    Here’s how the ALP can wing the next election comfortably. Convince Mark Latham to return to the ALP and let him reinvent the party. Of course it won’t happen simply because the ALP is too biased to the left.

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    Salome

    Keep it up, Jo. This climate change nonsense will pass, and this past election was the sound of the exit door beginning to open. Meanwhile, someone called Jane Caro has referred to people like us (who voted so as to keep the GetUp-supported parties out) as ‘truculent turds’. Anyone like to design a t-shirt?

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      PeterS

      Yes the climate change crap should pass but understand not many other nations took it as seriously as we have done even without the ALP+Greens in power. Proof of that is the hundreds of new coal fired power stations being built elsewhere. Time we caught up with the rest of the world and started building some here too. Anyone who objects is a fool and a traitor.

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        David Wojick

        I don’t think any of the developed countries are building new coal fired power plants. Here in the U.S. Another wave of closures is being announced, to be replaced with wind and solar. We are following you down the green rabbit hole.

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          Dave in the States

          What about Japan?

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          PeterS

          That’s mostly because they already have plenty of them and many nuclear ones as well. When Trump won the election he embarked on a plan to invest in the existing coal plants to extend and keep them running longer than orignal. We are dead in the water compared to both developing and developed nations. Morrison now has a mandate to start building new HELE plants here.

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      Analitik

      Jane Caro was quite entertaining when she used to guest on The Gruen Project but outside her advertising expertise, she is just a full on feminist, lefty.

      Actually, it was priceless television, watching her, along with a like minded cohort, in a restaurant in 2016, where they were all set for a celebratory dinner, as they saw the results of the US election developing and their big hope, Hillary, literally fading into oblivion.

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    RickWill

    Alan Jones got a run on QandA last night. I caught the very end that was discussing Climate Change but the whole show is worth a listen:
    https://www.abc.net.au/qanda/podcast/2019-20-05/11130350

    Like it or not you contribute to the ABC and this is an hour or so worth listening to.

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      robert rosicka

      Yes Allan really nailed it

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        Analitik

        He made the same point about atmospheric CO2 content and emissions (and mankind and Australia’s contribution) on Channel 9 during the election telecast. It’s priceless seeing someone being able to present that information on mainstream TV, especially the ABC. The true deniers became apparent as the Labor reps and political reporter, Alice Workman, totally failed to address the facts Jones presented and hid behind the “science is settled” consensus.

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      RickWill

      The word “renewable” in reference to intermittent wind and solar generators needs to be widely recognise as deceptive language. Anyone promoting so-called renewable energy, referring to intermittent wind and solar generators, is in breach of consumer law in Australia.

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      el gordo

      The remarkable thing is that Q & A invited Alan Jones on, he was devastating.

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      Hanrahan

      that’s an hour I won’t get back, but I’m retired so I guess it doesn’t matter.

      So many opinions accepted as facts. :(

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        RickWill

        One of the dingbats on that panel made the claim that “renewables” were cheaper than coal fuelled generation and any new coal generation would be a stranded asset.

        If this a true belief then why argue for any federal government policy on climate change. Just get rid of all subsidies and let the market decide.

        The market is going to fix it all with the lowest cost source of generation prevailing – hahahahaha!

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      PeterS

      The last few minutes tells it all – the left still don’t get it. If the ALP+Greens keep on saying climate change is serious then Morrison is safe for perhaps the next two elections.

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    Ross

    I saw Senator Sinodinos on Sky News last night. Being a Kiwi I did not know much about him other than recognising his name. He was going on about Climate Change and the need to do something like he was a member of the Green Party. A bit of reading this morning and I find he is one of Turnbull’s big supporters, so I now understand where he was coming from.

    I hope Morrison keeps him well away from his Ministry.

    BTW. It looks like Turnbull’s son is not particularly happy (that’s great !!) –his hedge fund investments in renewables might have taken a hit!!

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      robert rosicka

      Yes he’s a liberal lite for sure , heard his comments on election night and you would have thought he was Labor .

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      pat

      Ross -

      local ABC “What the Papers Say” last nite had Guardian person quoting the following!!!

      20 May: Guardian: Arthur Sinodinos urges Liberals to use renewables to boost environmental credentials
      Senator says party should ‘take advantage’ of falling cost of renewables to ensure ‘greater reliability, lower cost and lower greenhouse gas footprint’
      by Paul Karp
      Arthur Sinodinos has warned that the Liberal party should not stand in the way of renewables, suggesting the government should use a changing energy market to bolster its environmental credentials…

      Anticipating a fresh internal battle over energy policy after the Liberal-National party’s success in Queensland, the Liberal senator suggested the government should recast itself as the best manager of the grid and “take advantage” of the falling cost of renewables to ensure “greater reliability, lower cost and lower greenhouse gas footprint”…

      Sinodinos, the former industry minister and cabinet secretary, told Sky News the inner-city swings against the government were due to “very intense competition between ourselves, Labor and the Greens”.
      “There’s no doubt that climate change issues probably played a factor in some of those seats,” he said…
      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/20/arthur-sinodinos-urges-liberals-to-use-renewables-to-boost-environmental-credentials

      Sinodinos has been all over the MSM since the election. it’s almost like Malcolm is back.

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        and if that isn’t bad enough, listen to this mob on AM, which I posted earlier, minus the url/audio:

        AUDIO: 3min41sec: ABC AM: Back to work: Coalition plans new Cabinet amid calls for new NEG
        By Stephanie Borys on AM
        Guests include:
        Eric Abetz, Liberal Senator for Tasmania
        Arthur Sinodinos, Liberal Senator for New South Wales
        Ken Wyatt, Liberal MP for Hasluck and Indigenous Health Minister 2017-2019
        https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/am/back-to-work-coalition-plans-new-cabinet-amid-calls-for-new-neg/11128850

        Abetz says Govt energy policy needs re-tweaking, won’t say if that should be NEG or not. need good energy policy.

        ABC Borys: senior Libera figure, Sinodinos, on election night, flagged the need for further action on energy and cimate policy.

        Sinodinos says there’s a very big transition occurring, not only in the energy system generally, but particularly in the electiity generation system. Snowy2.0 and the battery of the nation, when they come onstream, actually do have implications for the role of baseload power in the system, so there’s a transition there that has to be managed. what I’m saying is I think we need to be upfront with the Australian people about those transitions.

        ABC Borys: climate policy has dogged the Coalition party for years… Morrison will need to balance differing views within his party with calls from environment & business sectors to provide certainty.

        ABC Borys: Ken Wyatt says party has learned its lesson.
        Wyatt: I think we’ve come a long way from those days. the Minister who has been leading this is very switched on to the needs, not only of Australia, but certainly seeks advice from all of his colleagues.

        THEY SOUND LIKE THEY ARE RIGHT AT HOME AT THEIR ABC.

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          pat

          Liberal strategist advises PM to borrow Labor’s health policies
          Daily Telegraph-13 hours ago
          NSW Senator Arthur Sinodinos, who served as John Howard’s chief of staff … Mr Sinodinos has had his own personal battle with cancer and its…

          Sinodinos was, apparently, on the ABC panel on election nite. so “sagacious” is he, Ms. Crabb echoes him at the end of the piece!

          19 May: ABC: With a ‘miracle’ election result, Scott Morrison has the mandate to do whatever he likes — so what will it be?
          By Annabel Crabb
          Will Labor policies influence the Coalition?
          ???Sagacious Arthur Sinodinos, after confessing on the ABC’s election panel last night that he had doubted Mr Morrison in February when he sketched out the path to victory that last night became reality, had this to say: ***”Nature abhors a vacuum.”
          “In fact, one of the things, I think, he will have to do is take some of the elements of the Labor campaign and look at them and say, ‘Well, where were the issues that motivated some people to vote Labor, and what can I do to and ameliorate — assuage those concerns?’.”

          Currently, the Government’s climate and energy policy is a strange amalgam of Mr Abbott’s policy approach and Mr Turnbull’s…
          With both of them gone, there is an opportunity for something new…

          Having campaigned on the broadest of visions, the Prime Minister needs detail — fast. ***Nature does abhor a vacuum.
          And Aladdin’s cave, while magical, was also booby-trapped.
          https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-19/annabel-crabb-election-result-2019-scott-morrison-mandate/11127994

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            pat

            surely even Malcolm didn’t get as much fawning coverage as Sinodinos!

            20 May: ABC: Scott Morrison goes from accidental Prime Minister to homespun hero in election 2019
            By political editor Andrew Probyn
            As Arthur Sinodinos told the ABC on election night, Mr Morrison’s a restless man who needs to be busy.

            The NSW senator said the PM should do what Robert Menzies did in 1961 when, after a near-death experience at the polls, ***he looked at the Opposition for policy inspiration “because he recognised you have to reach out to the people who didn’t vote for you and find out why and ameliorate those concerns”…

            Energy and climate policy, which invigorated several seat contests, would be a good start. Bipartisan energy policy has eluded Australian politics for a dozen years now. Both sides have failed the population, evidenced by the spiralling electricity prices.
            With former PM Tony Abbott put out to pasture by the people of Warringah, pursuing a rebooted National Energy Guarantee might now be possible…
            https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-20/election-morrison-gains-authority-to-change-coalition-direction/11128460

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        Ross

        Yes Pat. It is like he is trying to “white ant” ScoMo already. The MSM would lap up what he is saying.

        BTW. I see some in the MSM are kicking Tony Abbott because he will not announce his retirement.
        How dare Tony Abbott not do what we say. /sarc

        I really hope Tony has a long hard think and a rest and stays around, for Aussie’s sake.

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          Ross – more:

          20 May: 2HD (Super Radio Network): Senator Arthur Sinodinos on the Coalition’s election win
          Hosts: Richard King and Kim Bauer
          (AUDIO: 2min29sec: Sinodinos: in some areas like climate change, the question is not whether you do something or not, the question is explaining to people exactly what you are going to do, who is effected, and who is bearing the cost…)
          https://www.2hd.com.au/2019/05/20/senator-arthur-sinodinos-on-the-coalitions-election-win/

          interesting:

          1min07sec: 2HD’s Kim Bauer complains to Sinodinos that in large Newcastle (think coal) polling station she worked in on Saturday, there was no Liberal official, no Liberals giving out how-to-vote cards. people kept coming in asking how do I vote for Liberals. they were confused & finished up saying to me, the Liberals don’t care. why aren’t we represented better in Newcastle by Liberals? (Newcastle is Sinodinos’s home town). Sinodinos says Katrina Wark (big loser to Labor) has represented Liberals in Newcastle, probably could do better.

          Ministry refresh on Morrison’s radar
          9News/AAP: 20 May 2019
          …and Environment Minister Melissa Price woud remain on deck.
          That comes despite Ms Price coming under fire for being nearly invisible in her portfolio and throughout the election, and calls for the government to do more on climate change…

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            FINALLY:

            Malcolm Turnbull mulls cabinet secretary role as part of likely elevation of Arthur Sinodinos
            By Heath Aston and Matthew Knott
            SMH – 16 Jan 2017
            Expectation continued to firm on Monday that Mr Turnbull would promote his CONFIDANT, Arthur Sinodinos, the current cabinet secretary, to the key post of health minister to replace Sussan Ley…
            Senator Sinodinos, who was a senior adviser to John Howard, is a leading member of the Left or “moderate” faction of the Liberal Party who spent the entire election campaign in a behind-the-scenes role advising Mr Turnbull…
            Mr Turnbull appointed Senator Sinodinos, a key numbers man in the operation to depose Tony Abbott, to the post to restore cabinet processes after the chaotic era dominated by Mr Abbott’s chief of staff, Peta Credlin…

            Wikipedia: Arthur Sinodinos, Rose Bay:
            Sinodinos was born in Newcastle, New South Wales, and attended the University of Newcastle. He subsequently worked as a public servant and political adviser, most notably as chief of staff to Prime Minister John Howard between 1997 and 2006. Before being elected to the Senate at the 2010 federal election, Sinodinos spent periods working for Goldman Sachs and the National Australia Bank…
            Corporate career: Sinodinos left his position as prime ministerial chief of staff to become a director with the investment bank Goldman Sachs JBWere, and a regional general manager at the National Australia Bank…
            Sinodinos is a member of the board of Global Panel Foundation – Australasia, a non-governmental organisation…

            Global Panel Foundation
            Global Panel Australasia – Board of Directors
            Sir Donald C. McKinnon, ONZ, GCVO (Chair), Commonwealth Secretary General(2000-2008); fmr. Foreign Minister, New Zealand
            Hon. Philip Ruddock, MP (Vice-Chair)…
            Hon. Sen. John Faulkner…
            Arthur Sinodinos, Senior Director, National Australia Bank
            http://globalpanel.org/board-members/

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      Hanrahan

      Sinodinos got into trouble while Tony was PM and Tony supported him at some personal cost. Sinodinos repaid him by betraying him.

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    robert rosicka

    Scomo has just been handed another miracle, Hilary Bowen ( oops that should read Chris Bowen ) has indicated he is contesting the Labor leadership .
    If Lil Bill was unpopular Bowen should smash all records in unpopularity and if successful at his tilt for the top job will never ever be PM .

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    robert rosicka

    More non science from the ABC about coral bleaching .
    Anyone ever see a diver in a dry suit diving in tropical waters ? Aren’t dry suits used in cold water? And much contradiction in this fiction .

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-05-21/coral-bleaching-french-polynesia/11129634

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      el gordo

      The question is, why the bleaching is happening?

      Although its a moderate El Nino it still has an impact, but it probably wouldn’t have happened if there was high cloud cover.

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        Hanrahan

        A coral bomie can’t grow forever, it is limited by the fact that it needs water ergo bleaching is the equivalent of pruning a tree.

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    TdeF

    The total lack of self awareness of the Labor party supporters

    “Another Victorian woman, Siobhan, said: “It’s very disappointing that people are voting for their own self interest rather than for the good of the people.”

    What? People are voting for what they want, not what we in Labor want. I thought that was how voting worked? How selfish of those Queenslanders to consider what they wanted, not what we wanted?

    And the ABC is equally as irrational. This from Andrew Bolt “Paul Barry, ABC host, blames the Murdoch media for Labor’s loss: “News Corp’s news, meanwhile — meant to be opinion free — was often as one-sided.” It is the the ABC which has the legal obligation to be unbiased, not the free press.

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    I note the nannies on the left have now moved to label our variable weather a climate “crisis” or climate “emergency”. When will they realise the majority have seen through this sham.

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      TdeF

      One June 22nd it will be 31 years since James Hansen conned the US congress into the belief that the world was heating rapidly due to CO2. 31 years of nothing. More than a generation has grown up being told it will all be over in just 10 years. Three times. Now AOC has said she was just joking but Bernie Sanders is now saying 12 years to Armageddon. Really?

      I would love to see a list of all the people who have prophesized imminent doom. Prince Charles would be there. Now even the Pope is telling us we are all going to burn in hell fire, but that’s his job.

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        theRealUniverse

        A web site I read from time to time has an article showing Bernie Sanders honeymoon, 1988 was in…the Soviet Union.

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    pat

    better one day late than never – Fran’s Breakfast gets to the bottom of Labor’s loss!
    haven’t listened to it all but Fran does interrupt Canavan, CC is real, Australia will transition eventually to net zero carbon; green energy will provide lots of jobs; Richard DiNatale says blah blah:

    AUDIO: 11min37sec: 21 May: ABC Breakfast: Coal lost Labor the election, Canavan says
    Image (Canavan): “It’s coal because its not just in Queensland, you can see it in the Hunter as well.”
    The state swung savagely against the ALP, leaving it with only six of the 30 seats in the north and a primary vote of just 27 per cent.
    Anthony Albanese says if he becomes Labor Leader, he’ll go straight to Queensland to work out went wrong.
    Resources Minister Matt Canavan credits the result on a “high viz workers revolution” by workers angry at Labor’s attack on coal jobs throughout Queensland.
    Guest: Matt Canavan, Resources Minister; Queensland LNP Senator
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/coal-lost-labor-the-election-canavan-says/11132680

    Labor gets equal time:

    AUDIO: 10min56sec: 21 May: ABC Breakfast: Adani a proxy for the future of regional Queensland, Watt says
    Queensland was a killing zone for Labor at the election — big anti Labor swings mean the Coalition now has a stranglehold on the sunshine state with it winning 23 seats – some of them by crushing margins.
    Resources Minister Matt Canavan says traditional Labor supporters have deserted the party in droves, especially in the coal belt region of central Queensland.
    Guest: Murray Watt, Queensland Labor Senator
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/adani-a-proxy-for-the-future-of-regional-queensland/11132814

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    AUDIO: 6min1sec: 21 May: ABC AM: Labor ‘tried to be all things to all people’: Richard Di Natale
    On AM with Sabra Lane
    This was supposed to be the climate change election — but it hasn’t panned out that way.
    https://www.abc.net.au/radio/adelaide/programs/am/labor-tried-to-be-all-things-to-all-people:-richard-di-natale/11132790

    1min10sec: Sabra: this was supposed to be the climate change election, but it hasn’t panned out that way. what went wrong for your party?
    Di Natale: we had significant, huge swings across the country blah blah.
    Sabra: you haven’t got extra senators & you haven’t got any extra seats in the lower house and the Coalition has been returned despite all the predictions.
    Di Natale: Adani, transition, plan for 50,000 new jobs in Qld; 180,000 through this transition.
    Sabra: how?
    Di Natale: just because you and the media didn’t cover it doesn’t mean it wasn’t put forward…

    AUDIO: 4min32sec: 21 May: ABC AM: ‘Every leader needs to handle Mr Trump with care’: Michael Fullilove
    On AM with Sabra Lane
    Guest: Michael Fullilove, executive director, Lowy Institute
    from TRANSCRIPT:
    SABRA LANE: Tony Abbott’s name has been floated as a possible new ambassador to the United States, replacing Joe Hockey. Would that be beneficial for Australia?
    MICHAEL FULLILOVE: I think it would have pros and cons.
    The problem is, the complication is that the United States is in an election season itself.
    So, while I think Mr Abbott would find Trump’s Washington congenial, the problem is that the skills that you need to manage the Trump administration are very specific and ***it is quite possible that soon the Australian ambassador will be dealing not only with a Democratic Congress but with a Democratic White House.
    We don’t know what will happen, but I guess that’s an important question, is how would an ambassador Abbott deal, cope with, for example, ***a left-wing Democrat if one were elected next year, and that’s not outside the bounds of possibility.
    https://www.abc.net.au/radio/adelaide/programs/am/every-leader-needs-to-handle-mr-trump-with-care:-fullilove/11132774

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    Bill in Oz

    As the smoke of the election battle clears away something is emerging which is another surprise.

    Rebekha Sharkie won in Mayo but without Nick Xenophon to lead and guide it the vote for Centre Alliance across all of South Australia has collapsed.

    For example in the southeast seat of Barker where CA endorsed Kelly Gladigau, the Center Alliance primary vote was just 2609 or 2.89%. The CA vote collapsed by 25% compared with the last election in July 2016.

    In Contrast the Liberal Party member, Tony Pasin got the highest swing to the Liberal Party in the nation outside of Wentworth. The swing towards Tony Paisin was 12.44%. The Liberal party vote was 57%. And to this needs to be added the National party candidate’s vote of 2.67%. So the vote for the Coalition in Barker was 60.6 %.

    The Labor Party got just 21%; The Greens got 6.6%. The UAP got 5.83%. The Animal Justice Party got 2.7%.

    Source : https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionPage-24310-180.htm

    The election saw a similar pattern in the South Australian seat of Grey where CA also endorsed a candidate – Andrea Broadfoot. The CA vote collapsed by 21% compared with 2016. And Rowan Ramsay the Liberal Party candidate & member had an increase in his vote of 7.85%

    Source : https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionPage-24310-183.htm

    The net result of this is that CA will not be successful in electing any senate candidates. And CA’s senators Stirling Griff and Rex Patrick while they have another three years to go before their terms as senators end, face political oblivion at the next Federal election. Center Alliance will then probably then disappear.

    The only Center Alliance candidate who was successful in the election was Rebekha Sharkie here in Mayo.

    I am waiting for final results of the AEC count before writing up an in-depth analysis of what happened here in Mayo. But you can see the AEC’s election figure for mayo here :
    https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionPage-24310-188.htm

    But it is clear that something went right for Rebekha Sharkie which bombed in the wider South Australian community.

    My suspicion is that CA bombed statewide because it is no longer a “center’ party. It has become a Greens lite party. And the people of South Australia rejected that greenist approach & policies.

    But in Mayo Rebekha has somehow managed to avoid being identified as a Greenist. That probably saved her from losing Mayo. But I am not sure yet.

    Bill

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      Bill in Oz

      And looking at the AEC website some more I suspect that the decision of the Australian Conservative Party NOT to endorse any candidates for the House of Reps has cost it dearly. It too has seen a collapse in votes.

      I note in Mayo that the Family First party got 4.48% of the vote in 2016. In the meantime it merged with the ACP. Looking at the vote preferences most of those former Family First votes went to Rebekha Sharkie..

      All a bit odd.

      Graeme Number 3, you are an ACP member, can you bring any light to this ?

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        Analitik

        I think the collapse of the ACP vote is largely due to Turncoat being shown the door. ScoMo may not be perfect (that Paris accord and the LRET are still in place) but he makes Turncoat look like Leon Trotsky.

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          Bill in Oz

          Analiitik, No that is not what has happened.
          There is a slight increase in the Liberal votes 1%
          But most of the former Family First vote seems to have gone to Rebekha Sharkie. Her vote increased by over 3%.
          If Turnbull leaving was important the figures would be reversed.

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        Graeme No.3

        Sharkie has been a very active local member and people still haven’t forgotten Jaime Briggs. There is a strong dislike of having another Liberal choice parachuted in, and this is how Georgina Downer is classified. Myself I feel she was foolish to stand again, and I wonder why the local Liberals accepted it. I have lost touch with a couple of the better informed Libs and was hoping to get feedback in the next month. There was a thought floated that the State Council pressured the locals and they decided to let her loose and that way be able to select their own choice at the next election. With her father being mixed up in anti-Trump activity and driving around the electorate in an orange Maserati there were some votes lost.

        Equally out of touch with the ACP Councils and why they didn’t run in the lower house. They are short of money and the State election didn’t help the cause with so many also rans. They may also have decided with Clive Palmer area bombing the media with advertising that he would take a lot of potential votes from them.

        On a brighter note, they were better organised this time and certainly had a lot more people available – I felt like a leper at the last election, but they need to counter the spiteful comments from the Left about Far Right fascists. I didn’t see it but there was comment that they had a very good social media presentation.

        As for the Greens they will always get about 5% of the vote even if they campaigned biting the head off live chooks. The other 5% is made up of people who dislike both major parties and don’t know much about them, just think they are harmless environmentalists.

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      Analitik

      So Rebekha Sharkie is now reduced to Mayo’s equivalent of Melbourne’s Adam Bandt and Waringah’s Zali Steggall

      Bandt has managed to hold on to his seat through the inner city lefties in Melbourne identifying with The Greens national brand (which rests largely on their Senators). It will be interesting to see how strong the lefty enclaves are in Adelaide and Sydney, without this support.

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        Bill in Oz

        There has always been a strong Green vote in Mayo.
        But it has not increased markedly this election.
        It is till around 9-10%.
        And virtually all those votes flowed through to Rebekha Sharkie via preferences because Rebekha’s main campaign items were Greenist.
        The same is true for the Vegan wing of the Greens – Animal Justice Party. – who got ~ 1.5%.

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    Travis T. Jones

    The (QLD) State Government has granted Resolute Mining nine new mining leases as part of a $150 million project to extend the life of its Ravenswood gold mine operations in north QLD, securing 280 existing jobs and creating another 100 construction jobs …

    14 May 2019: QRC welcomes gold mine expansion in north Queensland

    https://www.qrc.org.au/media-releases/qrc-welcomes-gold-mine-expansion-in-north-queensland/

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      Hanrahan

      The little creek running through Ravenswood made many prospectors wealthy with alluvial gold but underground miners have had to work for their money.

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    pat

    some may recall this:

    10 Jul 2017: AFR: Can Tesla and Blue Sky make Adelaide a start-up hub?
    by John McDuling
    Adelaide is known as a city of churches, pie floaters, and lately, blackouts. Can it be a city of start-ups?
    Blue Sky Venture Capital thinks so. The VC arm of ASX-listed Blue Sky Alternative Investments last week won a mandate to manage a $50 million venture capital fund for the South Australian government, and it has already made its first big hire for the new endeavour.

    Atlanta Daniel, a well known entrepreneur and investor, and a prominent member of the Melbourne start-up scene, has joined the firm as an investment director. She will relocate to Adelaide over the next few weeks to work specifically on the new fund…
    “It’s super exciting,” she tells The Australian Financial Review. “There is such a strength of opportunity there in lots of verticals, from defence, medtech, agtech, ***new energies, ***autonomous vehicles. We can really be world leading in these things, not just nation leading, but world leading.”…
    Ms Daniels previously ran Signal Ventures, a seed stage fund, which was quietly wound up earlier this year…
    https://www.afr.com/technology/can-tesla-and-blue-sky-make-adelaide-a-startup-hub-20170709-gx7nhm

    Blue Sky is back in the news:

    SA’s $50 million venture capital fund future cloudy after investment fund Blue Sky is placed in administration
    Adelaide Advertiser – 20 May 2019
    The manager of the State Government’s $50 million start-up investment fund has been placed in administration, with its share price plummeting…

    21 May: ABC: Blue Sky Alternative Investments enters receivership amid debts and class actions
    By business reporter David Chau
    Blue Sky Alternative Investments has fallen into receivership and been suspended from trading on the Australian share market.
    The Brisbane-based fund manager, which manages $2.8 billion in investments, appointed Pilot Partners as its voluntary administrators on Monday.
    It came after the former market darling breached the conditions of a $50 million lifeline provided by US hedge fund Oaktree Capital Management — which then led to Oaktree appointing KordaMentha as Blue Sky’s receivers…
    At its peak, Blue Sky was worth almost $1.2 billion, when its share price was $14.70 in late December 2017.
    But its market value plummeted to just $14 million within one-and-a-half years, with its shares last trading at 18 cents…

    The fund manager’s related entity — the Blue Sky Alternative Access Fund (BSAAF) — is not in receivership or administration.
    However, BSAAF shares tumbled on Monday, closing 5.8 per cent lower at 73 cents
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-20/blue-sky-debt-in-receivership-administration-class-action-debts/11130456

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    Zane

    Chris Bowen came across as a complete tool on the Seven Network election night coverage. The man is an economic simpleton. And he now aspires to future Prime Ministership? It is a joke.

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      yarpos

      He always comes across as smug. He seems to have a nose in the air sense of superiority like so many on the left. If it has to be a bloke (I thought Plibers was going to be a shoe in just based on genitals for Labor) then I much prefer the Thai massage boy.

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    Robber

    Watched Q&A for the first time in a long time to see Tony Jones squirm – and good heavens, he had a balanced panel, even one skewed to the right, with Labor finally attacked by Tony.

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    pat

    2 May: CatholicNewsAgency: Pope Francis: ‘The common good has become global’
    By Courtney Grogan
    (CNA).- Pope Francis called on nations to work toward a global common good Thursday, particularly in confronting climate change, human trafficking, and nuclear threats.
    “In the current situation of globalization not only of the economy but also of technological and cultural exchanges, the nation state is no longer able to procure the common good of its population alone,” Pope Francis told the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences May 2.
    “The common good has become global and nations must associate for their own benefit,” Francis said, noting that some nations today have “a spirit of opposition rather than cooperation.”
    The pope called “building the common good of humanity, a necessary and essential element for the world balance.”…

    Pope Francis said that when a “supranational common good” is clearly identified, as in the case of climate change or human trafficking, it necessitates a special legal authority capable of facilitating solutions…
    The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences addressed the revival of nationalism at their plenary session May 1-3, “Nation, State, Nation-State.”…
    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-the-common-good-has-become-global-93364

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      pat

      Final Statement: THE PONTIFICAL ACADEMY OF SOCIAL SCIENCES
      PLENARY SESSION ON “NATION, STATE, NATION-STATE”
      CASINA PIO IV, 1-3 MAY 2019
      Even if homogenous nation-states may have the advantage of a more streamlined decision-making process, they should not oppose international cooperation, for example within the family of states represented by the United Nations, or even supranational organizations. The need for international cooperation has increased in the last few decades for at least three reasons. Firstly, economic globalization requires a political structure that is able to come to terms with it. Markets can only function within a legal framework that is not in itself subjected to market forces. Secondly, environmental challenges are – to a large extent – global. Climate change has no borders; only consistent and lasting cooperation among states can mitigate it…

      Nationalism can also manifest itself in the international arena by refusing international cooperation, which is necessary in at least the following areas that are relevant for the common good of humankind at large: international trade, migration, human rights, and disarmament treaties. This is particularly true in the case of climate policies, an area that has been irresponsibly left behind so far…

      National sentiment can still go hand in hand with democracy, as long as the latter does not regress towards forms of illiberal democracy. But the rise of aggressive nationalism, the undermining of international cooperation and supranational institutions, such as the European Union and many others, and the refusal to develop binding international cooperation in economic, climate, and security politics are threats to what is morally and politically necessary. They are certainly not in agreement with the principles that are defended and supported by the Catholic Social Teaching, nor are they in agreement with the prospect of a world of ideal inclusive prosperity.

      As Pope Francis suggests, increased and intensified international cooperation is necessary in order to overcome divisiveness among nations, offering new pathways of cooperation and sustainable development, especially vis-à-vis the new challenges of climate change, modern slavery and peace as a supreme good, which today is under attack.
      SIGNATORIES INCLUDE:
      Prof. John (Hans Joachim) Schellnhuber
      http://www.pass.va/content/scienzesociali/en/events/2019-23/nations/statement.html

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        PONTIFICAL ACADEMY OF SOCIAL SCIENCES: Nation, State, Nation-State
        Challenges like ecology, particularly climate change, human trafficking, energy, defence, regulation of the globalized economy cannot be dealt with by competing sovereign national states alone.

        ***The European Union is an example of what could become a supranational state with precise and limited sovereignty in matters of European common good. The social doctrine of the Church calls this the principle of subsidiarity which does not destroy national autonomies but rather protects them from the illusion of exclusive state sovereignty…
        http://www.pass.va/content/scienzesociali/en/events/2019-23/nations.html

        read elsewhere that Hans Joachim Schellnhuber of Potsdam spoke on “The State of the World”, but can’t find any quotes or transcript.

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        Bill in Oz

        Not even the Catholics are listening to this ideological rubbish.
        They need to go back to talking about how many angels dance on the head of a pin.
        Possibly ( ? ) they more expertise in that area of discourse

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    Another Ian

    round this thread

    Bloke needs a hand

    “Help Professor Van Smirk achieve his goal to have this played as widely as possible”

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2019/05/help-professor-van-smirk-achieve-his-goal-to-have-this-played-as-widely-as-possible.html

    “This morning, Alan Jones on 2GB made the greatest of discovery. The Professor was so confident in his dominant analytical abilities that he made this comment in a podcast on April 15:

    “There’s no way that Scott Morrison can win it and I’m happy to have that replayed time and time again to my shame if he does win it.”

    We are happy to help. Click here and tell your friends. “

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    TdeF

    How annoyed is Turnbull arriving back in the country..

    “I congratulate Scott on a very outstanding personal victory … I’m very glad that in that dreadful time in August he succeeded to the prime ministership rather than Peter Dutton,”

    He is even trying to take credit for the victory, implying that PM Morrison somehow owes him a debt and that his unfair removal as PM was a ‘dreadful time’. Puzzling that the people of Wentworth have voted Liberal after all, despite Turnbull’s refusal to support Sharma and his real support for Phelps. Malcolm even has the cheek to congratulate Sharma, when those bridges were burnt seven months ago. I can just see Turnbull turning up at a Liberal party function expecting thanks and praise for all his help in the Morrison and Sharma successes.

    At the time in 2016 Malcolm couldn’t thank any of the people who gave him his one seat majority and still cannot thank anyone in the Liberal party for anything. Traitors all. Where he was a very loyal Communications minister to his PM, with deputy PM, Julie Bishop and the rest of his Black Hand. After all, Malcolm was born to rule. Abbott was just in the road. It will really annoy the Turnbulls if Abbott becomes US Ambassador with that lovely house in Washington, free of charge and bff with the US President, invited to all the functions.

    Malcolm is still wrapped in his private world where he is the unfairly deposed President of a Republican Australia, as was his birthright.

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      TdeF

      Turnbull was fully expecting to come home triumphantly declaring he could have won the impossible election, but his disloyal team did not recognize his political genius. A bit hard then to claim that he was the one who made victory possible with Morrison’s and even Sharma’s victory while he ran away to New York. Humble pie at Point Piper tonight before quick trip to see all his Liberal friends, none of whom have a job.

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        TdeF

        Except perhaps Trent Zimmerman, who may be loathe to be seen in public with him.

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        theRealUniverse

        Yep he was in the big Apple..wonder who he visited? his Bilderburg mates? Bohemian grove?

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    Another Ian

    “Climate Alarmism – UP TO ELEVEN!!!”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/20/up-to-eleven/

    After Saturday probably needs at least 15

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      theRealUniverse

      The statements are totally out of the science fiction looney bin. 30 years ago NOONE would publish such drivel as, Plastic bags and climate change are significantly altering the oxygen levels..WHAT so the 22% O2 level will be reduced by climate change and plastic bags….It isnt only CO2 going up but O2 going down now? making octopuses blind…I really give up…

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    TdeF

    Now Morrison has an absolute majority. One more for the speaker seems certain and probably another one for safety.
    His only problem with be the Senate, but the extra four seats will help plus the halving of the cross bench. We hope to have stable government soon.

    The first thing I would have them do is repeal the RET. Then the whole rotten edifice of unsuitable wind towers will be exposed for the stupidity it is, with the gift of $1Million cash a year for operating each windmill, money stolen from the poor as well as the returns from the world’s most expensive electricity. If they cannot make a profit, tough. Most of the time they are not working anyway.

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      Hanrahan

      He hasn’t got Bronny around to be speaker, more the pity. I would love to see the performance labor would have put on if she was back in the chair.

      So who will it be?

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    I’m chuffed at the unexpected result. Hilarious. Particularly enjoyable was Kerryn Phelps getting done in Wenty. (Something about that woman…her face affects me like Shorten’s manner of speech. Brrr.)

    Now I’m watching to see what happens in relation to that black lump which Scomo held up and showed to the parliament. That will tell me a lot, maybe everything.

    Here’s my doubt. What if the enemy isn’t left, or right or middle? What if the real enemy has no name, no party, no hq, no symbol, no logo, no tag to get hold of…but can be heard and felt everywhere? Globalist, bankster, Trot, neo-liberal, Fabian, collectivist, Free Marketeer, Gaian, materialist, Bilderberger, Davos Man: the names apply, but also contradict. Like they were meant to contradict. What do you do with such an enemy?

    This “ism” we can’t quite name is a two-bob production with a trillion dollar budget. It won’t last, it can’t last. The problem is the damage it will do before joining its murderous predecessors in the cemetery of failed “isms”.

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    Chad

    Yes mosmoso,
    Government these days is. Much more complex business than when Hawk & Keating could hatch a plan and manouver it through a few noisy opposition voices.
    These days, there are huge influential pressures from utside intersts who can disrail the uptake of a policy should they wish.
    Politically, Hawk probably had 3 bean bags to juggle …
    Scomo will have the equivalent of 8-10 flaming torches to keep in the air at times !
    So ,..i dont expect any quick and decisive action on anything !

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    I don’t watch are you paying attention or whatever it’s called on Channel 10, but in an ad break looking for something else to watch, I clicked on it and they were asking the panel questions to see if they were aware of the latest in the news. I think the idea is to give a ridiculous answer or two in the name of humor.

    One question asked of the panel was what Bill Shorten said in his concession speech that he will be giving up.

    The first panelist to buzz in said ….. “Jogging”

    That actually did give me a smile.

    Watching Bill run makes me think he doesn’t know how to do it.

    Tony.

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    el gordo

    Aunty is shattered.

    ‘ABC staff believe on-air disruption and “painful” job losses are inevitable after the Morrison government’s return to power on Saturday.

    “It’s very grim in here this morning,” said one manager. “All the fat has already been trimmed [in previous budget reductions]. We can’t see how this won’t lead to job losses or programming changes.”

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    Ian Hill

    With running there’s no correct or incorrect way to do it, but admittedly some people’s actions make you smile. Whatever works for them!

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      Ian Hill

      Was supposed to be a reply to Tony at #82.

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        Hanrahan

        Who was that old fella who shuffled his way to win the first Syd – Mlb ultra marathon? Ugly but effective.

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          Ian Hill

          Cliff Young. Became a legend and set several age group records which still stand.

          The late former SA Labor Premier John Bannon was also noted for his ungainly but effective running style. Got him lots of sub 3 hour marathons, best under 2:45.

          The winner of the women’s marathon in the 2012 Olympics in London was another.

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        robert rosicka

        Did in gumboots didn’t he ?

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          Ian Hill

          I believe so, but he switched to proper running shoes for his later races, all probably given to him.

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    robert rosicka

    Can’t find a reference but ABC radio are reporting that 25 leading ice scientists are claiming a two metre sea rise by the end of the century due to accelerated melting of Greenland and Antarctica.

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    pat

    plenty to make you smile:

    20 May: Guardian: Tories urge leadership contenders to prioritise climate emergency
    Moderate Conservatives say environmental issues should be at forefront of debate
    by Heather Stewart
    Moderate Conservatives including Nicky Morgan and Amber Rudd are urging contenders for their party’s leadership to put the battle against the climate emergency at the forefront of the contest.
    The 60-strong One Nation group of senior Tories, created as a bulwark against what they perceive as their party’s lurch to the right, is calling for the environment to form a central part of the leadership debate…

    Morgan said: “The people of the UK know that climate change is an emergency and young people are desperately worried about the future of the planet they will inherit.
    “There are huge opportunities for the UK to lead the way in green finance and environmental innovation and to show that decarbonising an economy doesn’t mean it has to stop growing – let’s get on with it.”…
    Led by Morgan, Rudd, former cabinet office minister Damian Green and veteran MP Nicholas Soames, the group plans to hold a series of leadership hustings, in an attempt to act as a counterweight to the pro-Brexit European Research Group (ERG)…

    The climate emergency has shot up the political agenda in recent months, aided by the Extinction Rebellion protests and the campaign spearheaded by Swedish teenager Greta Thunberg…READ ON
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/19/tories-urge-leadership-contenders-to-prioritise-climate-emergency

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      Robber

      Isn’t it amazing how these bandwagons develop?
      First it was the IPCC saying global warming is likely to reach 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels between 2030 and 2052. Earth has already warmed by 1 degree so somehow we are asked to believe that a further 0.5°C warming will cause some ill-defined impacts.
      Then we had the apparent “joke” from AOCortez saying that we only have 12 years to adopt her green new deal of zero emissions or the world will end.
      Now we have the “climate emergency”. What emergency? When?
      If it really is an emergency then we should all stop driving, flying, shipping, heating, cooling (anything that uses fossil fuels) immediately.
      I just wish these alarmists would lead by example. If there is enough of them, problem solved, never to be heard of again.

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        Another Ian

        Maybe like the example given by John Steinbeck in the chapter “Mussolini” in “Once there was a war” about the spread of rumours on a trans-Atlantic troop ship in WW2 which was travelling under radio silence.

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          Another Ian

          Thought just now – maybe “social media” IS radio silence wrt real news?

          MSM not helping either

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    pat

    behind paywall – ***overwhelming favourites according to FakePolls, Lagan:

    20 May: UK Times: Uncosted climate policies send Labor to shock defeat
    by Bernard Lagan, Sydney
    Australia’s jubilant conservatives have credited their unexpected election win to a remorseless questioning of the costs of Labor’s green policies.
    Labor went into polling day as ***overwhelming favourites, armed with a range of plans for emissions cuts and government spending plans designed to combat climate change. Voters, however, re-elected Scott Morrison’s centre-right Liberal-led coalition, which offered comparatively modest countermeasures, despite Australia being gripped by drought after its hottest summer on record.

    Tony Abbott, 61, the former prime minister, was one of the few Liberal casualties, losing his affluent Warringah constituency after 25 years. He contrasted his fate at the hands of wealthier voters with the Liberals who won in the Queensland heart of the coal export industry, which turned against Labor…
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uncosted-climate-policies-send-labor-to-shock-defeat-gc0z830pc

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    pat

    sorry, Times, didn’t notice any CAGW extremes; just the usual:

    behind paywall:

    20 May: UK Times Editorial: The Times view on Scott Morrison’s unlikely Australian elections victory: The Political Climate
    The environment could be a vote loser if it is associated only with economic cost
    In the Australian election what happened to Tony Abbott was supposed to be a metaphor for the campaign as a whole. In Warringah, the former Liberal prime minister lost his seat to Zali Steggall, a climate change activist. Australia has just endured its hottest ever summer and storms and dengue fever are turning up in new locations. This was supposed to be the first election in which climate change was the decisive issue.

    In the event, the ruling Liberal-National coalition is close to securing the 76 seats needed for a majority in the House of Representatives. The coalition — which has been, to say the least, inactive on climate change — had been trailing for three years and the exit polls handed the victory to Labor, which…
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0573748a-7a5a-11e9-bed7-b51375720f1f

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    pat

    if the powers that be weren’t in on the CAGW scam, Greenpeace would have lost their tax-exempt status long ago:

    20 May: BBC: Greenpeace activists inside boxes block BP headquarters
    Climate activists inside five large containers have blocked the entrances to BP’s head office in central London.
    The Greenpeace protesters used cranes to transport the heavy boxes into place at St James’s Square in the early hours of the morning.
    Other campaigners abseiled down the side of the building to block windows and display banners.
    Greenpeace says those inside the containers have enough food and water to last them for several days.
    The aim is to keep BP’s headquarters closed “for at least the whole of this AGM week”, Greenpeace said. BP’s annual general meeting is set to take place in Aberdeen on Tuesday…

    Greenpeace said it was carrying out the action to call on BP to end exploration for oil and gas, and only invest in renewable energy.
    One campaigner, Morton Thaysen, told the BBC the group was planning a “long-term occupation of BP’s headquarters”.
    Four people have been arrested for aggravated trespass after some protesters scaled the building…
    …staff are unable to enter the building and have been told to work from home…
    But as the police have cordoned off the entire road, it is very difficult for people to see what’s going on so you wonder how long the protest will have an impact.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-48334309

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      Greg in NZ

      And the colour of their T-shirts… green for the Earth? black for piracy? white for purity? yeah nah… red.

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    Another Ian

    “How to lose the unloseable election: be anti-coal – - .”

    Looks like it was padded out a bit!

    “Spiked has an interesting commentary on the election results:

    “Labor’s policies, designed to restore Australia’s virtue, are peppered through a policy document that runs to 309 pages.”

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/05/20/the-aussie-revolt-against-social-justice/

    Yikes, 309 pages of social-justice policy? Of course severely-normal voters would have none of that kind of nonsense.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/20/aussie-election-blamestorm-continues-voters-feared-climate-policy-more-than-climate-change/#comment-2706762

    Shades of “You have to pass it to find out what’s in it”

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    pat

    Extortion Rebellion? lock them up:

    19 May: Guardian: Extinction Rebellion urges ad industry to use its power for good
    Letter to senior figures urges them to use their power to influence public opinion on climate change
    by Seth Jacobson
    Environmental activists Extinction Rebellion have turned their fire on the advertising industry in a public letter, encouraging it to use its expertise in manipulating public opinion for good or risk mass public protests against it…
    “Though our letter is addressed to the boardroom, we ask everyone within the industry to ‘Tell the Truth’ about the climate and ecological emergency,” he continued. “This is the first of Extinction Rebellion’s demands, to business and governments; the vital step required to wake everyone up and drive action to deal with this crisis…
    “Advertising will increasingly be seen alongside oil and logging as obviously toxic industries and those with the job title ‘creatives’ will soon find themselves rebranded as ‘destroyers’.”…
    In the letter which was released on Friday, the group addresses itself to “founders, CEOs, CCOs, CMOs, CFOs, MDs and CDs of the advertising industry”, playfully chiding them: “You didn’t think we’d forget about you?”…

    It cautions: “If you don’t make this change, consumers will insist you do. Look at the streets of London in the last month. People are beginning to see where the problems lie, and soon they will see you.”…
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/19/extinction-rebellion-urges-ad-industry-to-use-its-power-for-good

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    Hanrahan

    Here’s a Euro-centric view of our elections:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1iSkURTQPQ

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    Commentator on Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) ‘The Drum’ tells us we have only 11 1/2 years to live. ‘It’s really serious science’ she says. That’s AOC’s line. But AOC recanted – it was ‘a joke’.
    ABC and ‘really serious science’? It’s a joke.

    (Drum, Sunday, 2019-05-19 at 12.35 am, just a couple of hours after the election result was called.)

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    Anton

    The coal merely signified the coalition, of course!

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