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It’s not cold, it’s a “warming hole”

Brought to you by the Theory That Can Never Be Wrong — what’s the opposite of hot? A hole!

Next time you are feeling cold you will know you are in a hole instead. Stop digging.

h/t Climate Depot

Snow-covered beaches? Chilly iguanas? They are part of a mysterious ‘hole’ in global warming

BY STUART LEAVENWORTH, February 15, 2018 05:00 AM

… “according to a scientific study published this month, the Southeast’s colder winter weather is part of an isolated trend, linked to a more wavy pattern in the jet stream that crosses North America. That dipping jet stream allows artic air to plunge into the Southeast. Scientists call this colder weather a “hole” in overall global warming, or a “warming hole.”

“What we are looking at is an anomaly,” said Jonathan M. Winter, an assistant professor of geography at Dartmouth College and the principle investigator in the study. “The Southeast is the exception to the rule.”

 Coming soon, new discoveries will show that the Little Ice Age was not cold, just part of an isolated trend that happened all over the world.

This particular modern hole is happening over SE USA. Obviously some of the cold air in the upper troposphere is falling down the hole.

The Southeast’s warming hole has been studied many times before, but the Dartmouth study in Geophysical Research Letters nails down some of its key features. The study concludes the trend started in the late 1950s, and is concentrated in six states — Kentucky, Tennessee, Louisiana Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia. Nearby states are also affected, such as east Texas, Florida, South Carolina and North Carolina.

Genius communication analysts with PhDs at Yale have done a study that shows no one (especially not truck drivers or farmers in redneck states) could doubt university experts except through random happenstance or because of cold weather.

Either because of coincidence or cooler climes, residents of these states tend to be relatively doubtful that global warming is happening and is largely caused by human activities, according to surveys compiled by Yale and George Mason universities.

This new discovery changes many things. During hole-y times when you might get goosebumps, don’t turn on the heater, get into the troposphere and fix the hole with some pink batts.

Next month, we’ll find out that every day is an anomaly.

 

 

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108 comments to It’s not cold, it’s a “warming hole”

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    William

    There have been some pretty astonishing holes during the Norther winters over the past several years when temperatures plummeted to record lows, and snows – that rare and wondrous stuff that children may never see – paralysed large areas.

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      sophocles

      William said:

      There have been some pretty astonishing holes during the Northern winters over the past several years ….

      Well called William: here’s a pretty astonishing hole featuring the Appalachian mountain area (north eastern continental US) which has had a bit of cooling …. from 1910 – 2016. That’s a pretty impressive “hole.”

      Oh yeah, and from John Christy, the famous satellite sceptic, another “warming hole” from 1863-2014.

      Big holes which sorta seem to overlap. Could all that warming stuff be fake news? With fake data?

      C’mon you warmists out there! Keep digging! Another few spadefuls and you’ll all be in free fall! :-)

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      Roy Hogue

      There have been some pretty astonishing holes…

      That’s an understatement. There are so many holes in climate change theory that I long ago lost count. I think the most important hole we have to consider is the hole in the thinking ability of those who push this nonsense no matter what.

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        Roy Hogue

        On the other hand, I couldn’t think this stuff up if I tried for the next 20 years. So like it or not, we should give them an A+ for creative thinking.

        These people should write fantasy novels.

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          Greg Cavanagh

          You need to incorporate some Collage level stupidity in your novel Roy. Things that are so “out there” and Royally stupid that it seems unreasonable.

          Kevin Trenberth’s “telekinetic heat transfer from the upper atmosphere to the deep oceans” is my favourite so far.

          I hope your aliens are smarter than the humans, LOL.

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            Roy Hogue

            Greg,

            If you read the book you’ll find out.

            Aliens, if you stop and think about it, would be just about like you and me. They may have a compelling reason to make the trip required to get here from even the closest star, Alpha Centauri, about 4.3 light-years away. So they would want something to justify that trip, i,e,; they want Earth for themselves for reasons I’ll leave you to guess. But they would have their own set of needs ,fears, hopes, personal demons, personality differences and pathologies. How could a society capable of getting here not be that way? Think about the enormous task and the cooperation of various skills and talents it would take.

            Of course they could be just bees in a beehive or the aliens Sigourney Weaver did battle with. But could such beings do the cooperative effort it would take? How many people were contributors to getting Armstrong and Aldrin on the moon?

            I can’t think of any scenario that doesn’t have aliens arriving here from some other star wanting something bad for us and good for them. Otherwise why spend the enormous amount of time in space that it would take to get here. And time is not the only consideration for them. What design for a starship would you propose that would last as long as needed? How would you propel it and with what fuel or other energy source? What engines would it use?

            No, if they get here they will be very bad for us. Pray that no alien starship ever arrives at our beautiful home.

            If they do, pray that the leadership of those aliens ends up with a divided ship and a lot of trouble to deal with. Pray that the captain is not willing to do wholesale slaughter to solve his problem.

            That will help explain the title, The Great Invisible War. It’s the little paragraph or 2 blurb on the back cover that’s intended to catch your interest.

            Happy guessing. :-)

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          sophocles

          Roy said:

          These people should write fantasy novels.

          But Roy: they do! The sixth book/novel/installment, AR6, is due out in three months. In the meantime, there’re ARs 1 – 5 to entertain you while you wait for AR6. :-)

          Given that most of them are written by students—see Donna Laframboise’s great book “The Delinquent Teenager who was Mistaken for the World’s Top Climate Expert” for the details of the authors*—then it’s yet another collection of convulsive reading. :-)

          * Chapter 4: Twenty-something Graduate Students. (That’s biological ages, not quantities!)

          Slightly O/T:
          You can’t go wrong with Donna’s book. It’s an hilarious look into the IPCC’s operations and (mal)functions. With Chapter Titles like “ Screw the Rules,“Clear as Mud,” “Endangered Minds” and “ Moral Midgets” you can see it’s a fabulous, in-depth, thoroughly analytical report on the struggles, labours, trials and tribulations of the IPCC, all to bring us those fantastic novels.

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            Roy Hogue

            Unfortunately even though it’s fiction ARx always ends up on the nonfiction shelves where it gets taken seriously.

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        Kinky Keith

        :-)

        Now there’s an oxymoron if ever there was one.

        That climate change leaders like the Algorithm have the capacity to think about the holes in CAGW theory!

        Mostly, the leadership of that movement thinks about fame, influence and money.

        The followers, the other 97%, can’t exert themselves to think about anything more than which leader they will follow in their heroic quest to save the planet.

        Seeing all of this in operation you have to ask how did humanity get so far on such a flawed capacity to think.

        KK

        KK

        [I've no idea why this was in moderation. But it only takes a mouse click to approve it.] AZ

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          Greg Cavanagh

          Probably the word Algorithm. The computer took it as a personal slight against it’s machine intelligence, and so tried to hide the accusation away from those nasty humans :) lest they think themselves smarter than the machine which rules them.

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          sophocles

          Yay team! My reply (1.2.2.2) went straight into moderation! :-) You’ll have to wait until Fly or AZ hook it out. The bait was taken.

          It seems to be the five letter word or part of a word which starts with m and ends in n holding -oro- between them, and means cretin :-)

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        Tom O

        Roy, the most amazing holes, really, are in the heads of those that fund this stuff. I can’t blame a parasite for eating up everything the host is willing to give it. But you would think that at some point, the guy writing the check would realize that the studies he is paying for are so downright meaningless that he would be ashamed of being associated with it.

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      Ursus Augustus

      Lets face it, the truly astonishing hole in this whole area is that great empty space between the ears of alarmist ‘scientists’.

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        sophocles

        the truly astonishing hole in this whole area is that great empty space between the ears of alarmist ‘scientists’.

        … the hardest vacuum known to man, :-) which phrase we know from the beginning of the space age.
        We also know the power of the Solar Wind which fills that “vacuum.”

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    Phillip Bratby

    “Scientists call this colder weather a “hole” in overall global warming, or a “warming hole.””

    I’m a scientist and I have never heard of this before and so I have never called colder weather a warming hole. However, it appears that the idea has been around for a while:
    https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JCLI-D-12-00490.1

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/escape-the-horror-of-global-warming-by-living-in-a-hole/news-story/ade03d7e347ad6f570b2e750228e1e95

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/escape-the-horror-of-global-warming-by-living-in-a-hole/news-story/ade03d7e347ad6f570b2e750228e1e95

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      ‘Down the warming whole.’

      I like it.

      Orwell likes it.

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      Peter C

      Warming Holes

      Abstract from Ref 1. published 2012.

      Abstract
      The pattern of global mean temperature (GMT) change is calculated by regressing local surface air temperature (SAT) to GMT for an ensemble of CMIP5 models and for observations over the last 132 years. Calculations are based on the historical period and climate change scenarios. As in the observations the warming pattern contains a warming hole over the subpolar North Atlantic. Using a bivariate regression of SAT to GMT and an index of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC), the warming pattern is decomposed in a radiatively forced part and an AMOC fingerprint. The North Atlantic warming hole is associated with a decline of the AMOC. The AMOC fingerprint resembles Atlantic multidecadal variability (AMV), but details of the pattern change when the AMOC decline increases, underscoring the nonlinearity in the response.
      The warming hole is situated south of deep convection sites, indicating that it involves an adjustment of the gyre circulation, although it should be noted that some models feature deep convection in the middle of the subpolar gyre. The warming hole is already prominent in historical runs, where the response of the AMOC to GMT is weak, which suggests that it is involved in an ocean adjustment that precedes the AMOC decline. In the more strongly forced scenario runs, the warming hole over the subpolar gyre becomes weaker, while cooling over the Nordic seas increases, consistent with previous findings that deep convection in the Labrador and Irminger Seas is more vulnerable to changes in external forcing than convection in the Nordic seas, which only reacts after a threshold is passed.

      Some will read that past the first line but I think that you get the idea.

      It is complete gobbledegook! Climate Scientists chasing each other up their pwn rabbit holes.

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        sophocles

        Peter C quoted:

        decline increases, underscoring the nonlinearity in the response.

        I’ve tried translating that bit. I think they’re trying to say: “our ruler didn’t fit!:-)

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        ian hilliar

        Climatscientology running AMOC!! OMG!@!!

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        Annie

        Wondrous gobbledegook indeed Peter C. Do you suppose they sat a monkey down in front of a keyboard to produce that?

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          sophocles

          Maybe, maybe not. They could have used a random number generator to index a large dictionary and then pass the result through a grammatical sieve to produce what looks like English. ( I rather favour applying Eratosthenes sieve to the range of integers between 1 and 1,000,000 to extract all the primes and use those to index the OED :-) That would apply a sequential range which just might make pseudo-sense.)

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        TdeF

        It is reminiscent of the middle ages when astronomers tried to explain the fact that planets seemed to go backwards when circling around the earth. This was called retrograde motion. However it was not allowed to upset the Vatican approved and enforced theory. You just added corrections and talked a lot. Aristotle could not be wrong. Could he?

        Galileo though was locked up for noticing sun spots and drawing the conclusion that the sun was not perfect and also rotated. There is no wrong theory which cannot be supported by locking people up.

        Dr Tim Ball of Canada for example, still in the courtroom after seven years and spending his life’s savings. The process is the punishment by his other tormentor, Michael Mann, father of tree rings from one tree, remover of the Little Ice Ages, the Renaissance warming and inventor of the IPCC approved Hockey stick. We can only hope the Canadian judge finds time in the next few years to finally decide on Michael Mann’s non produced data, ignoring an unbreakable promise he made to the court.

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          Mal

          Is this the Michael Mann, tree ring circus??

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          Mal

          Is this the Michael Mann, tree ring circus??

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          Len

          Lowering Standards: The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) announced the recipient of its 2018 award for Public Engagement – Michael, “Hockey-stick” Mann. On Climate Etc. Judith Curry cites the award and a few comments by Roger Pielke, Jr. including:

          “My issue here is not with Mann. It is with the decision by AAAS to single out Mann as someone who embodies our highest values of the scientific community: a role model to emulate who engages in behaviors to celebrate.

          “With this award, what message is AAAS sending to the scientific community and to the public?

          “The AAAS is telling us that engaging in hyper-partisan, gutter politics, targeted against Republicans and colleagues you disagree with, using unethical tactics, will be rewarded by leaders in the scientific community.

          “AAAS could work to help to defuse the pathological politicization of science. Instead, it has thrown some gasoline on the fire.”

          Perhaps the purpose of AAAS is to intensify “pathological politicization of science” in hopes of gaining more financial support by promoting fear of humanity. In commenting on the speculative increase in sea level rise, discussed above, the staff writers of the AAAS publication EurekAlert stated: “Twenty-five years of satellite data prove climate models are correct in predicting that sea levels will rise at an increasing rate.” [Boldface added]

          These data prove nothing, but the exaggerations by AAAS demonstrate disturbing trends. Note: Mr. Mann has claimed that Fred Singer and SEPP have received funding from Phillip Morris (tobacco), Texaco (oil) and Monsanto (chemical), without offering any evidence. Fred Singer and SEPP have received no such funding. See links under Lowering Standards and Seeking a Common Ground.
          From today’s TWTW.

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            ivan

            Len, they had to do that to keep up the myth of ‘Mann Made Global Warming’ ™, otherwise the Ponzi scam would unravel.

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      el gordo

      They have successfully moved the goal posts yet again, in recent times it was known as a ‘cold air outbreak’.

      Its true to say this anomaly is ‘linked to a more wavy pattern in the jet stream’, but the Klimatariat failed to mention its a global cooling signal.

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        sophocles

        el gordo claimed:

        but the Klimatariat failed to mention its a global cooling signal.

        … deliberately. They can’t tolerate Nature doing it’s own unscripted thing and not holding to the official line. Not at all. Horrors: The Great Unwashed might start to think they’ve been had!

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      Kinky Keith

      But Phillip, the term warming hole has precedents.

      We have all heard of those New “sciency” sounding terms like “forcing” and “heat trapping gas” that riddle climate change literature.

      Never underestimate the capacity of the media, like their ABC and their BBC, to lead the trusting masses with slick presentations and concern for the planet.

      Are we really doomed to be led by the likes of Algore and Leonardo?

      Seems so.

      KK

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        sophocles

        KK,

        -if you think you’ve seen all this before, you’re right: you have. The great Ozone Hole in the South was a dry-run for propagandizing the population. Remember? CFC’s were going to gobble up the ozone layer and we were all going to die from skin cancers.

        The Great Southern Ozone Hole was supposedly discovered in 1984. It wasn’t. It was Charles Dobson who discovered it in the late 1950′s. It used to be known as The Antarctic Anomaly, but it was the start of major pseudo-science, and fantasy computer modelling. Now the Sun is going quiet, it’s supposed to be repairing. How much of this is due to solar activity and lack of it, I don’t know and I don’t think the will is there to find out.

        Look at the ozone hole science and look at AGW. The two share a common approach, common defences and common attacks. The only thing different are the subjects.

        O/T Aside: What nobody knew, then, was that the Vitamin-D the UV-B makes in our skin is our front-line defence against cancer. It’s still not common knowledge but it is starting to get around out there.

        Australia and NZ had, or have, the highest rates of most skin cancers in the world, but we also have by far the highest survival rates. The SPF 50 sun screens we are supposed to use to protect us from the sun may be the cause of such insignificant problems as asthma, ADHD, increasing skin cancers, Alzheimer’s, and autisms. Maybe it’s because mothers are not making sufficient Vit-D in their skins.

        As another O/T aside: One sunscreen chemical, oxybenzone, is fatal to marine filter feeders (corals, barnacles, oysters, mussels, etc) in minute concentrations. How much coral reef bleaching is actually caused by diver’s sunscreen?

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    Arctic. Jet stream. Russians. ‘Nuff said.

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    Kinky Keith

    They need to trap some heat.

    If only they could find it.

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    Clint

    At the grievous risk of being described as an a-hole, the Left have adopted cultural marxism as its philosophy of failure, its creed of ignorance and its gospel of envy (H/T WC). One outstanding feature of cultural marxism is the alleging of exploitative relationships. The solution? The perverse and bizarre reversal or inversion of relationships that have appeared historically normal, free, natural, healthy and prosperous. It is in this depraved, morally bankrupt political philosophy underpinning NWO globalism that one observes, the absence of the hot spot is manifest by the presence of a cold hole.

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    yarpos

    There is aanothe similar but opposite observation swirling around at the moment. Real world observations indicate that the great State of Montana has been hit with every cold spell/vortex blizzard thing that has arrived this winter. The GISS records for the area make it look relatively balmy. Quelle surprise! some might say, but people are starting to notice such stark divergences from reality.

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      Clint

      I have opined on previous occasions that the cracking wall of a moving glacier will be at their windows and they will continue to peddle their ‘adjusted’ barmy warming data. It is inevitable that the lack of concordance between reality and ‘settled science politics’ will become ever more obvious. After all, it bares testament to the idea that absolute power corrupts absolutely, confirmed by the politically sanctioned state of cultivated delusion. The evil behind this knows no bounds.

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    AndyG55

    Ah.. but is it a whole hole.. or a half hole.

    And why do they keep on digging ????

    Isn’t the bottom of the sewer deep enough for them ?

    This is all so confusing ! ;-)

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    TdeF

    So Global Warming has been reduced to some parts will get warmer and other parts will get colder. This is supported by the additional, unexplained and completely random extreme weather predictions of Global Warming. To bad that some of the places getting colder are some of the warmer places like Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and Florida. That’s just bad luck. It makes the theory look bad. You can add Bangladesh in the tropics and the Sahara and a lot of Europe, now covered in snow where there was not supposed to be snow ever again.

    This unproven theory of CO2 driven man made Global Warming is starting to become some sort of stretchy fits all data theory. Even then fiddling the data is required. Now dramatic cooling in many countries is a product of warming, where ever it appears. It’s not a hole in the warming. It’s a hole in the theory.

    Would someone please come up with some hard evidence, any evidence that the CO2 increase is actually man made? There is simple unequivocal evidence that it is not. Then if the CO2 increase is not man made, why has the world built 350,000 windmills?
    Why are we closing coal power stations? Why are we paying people not to use electricity? Why are we subsidizing thousands of homes which can no longer afford electricity? Why are we sending billions of dollars overseas? Why is our one seat Prime Minister insisting that we buy carbon dioxide credits from crooks? Sorry, merchant banks like his Goldmann Sachs.

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    4TimesAYear

    Do these “anomalies” get recorded like the opposing ones, or do they ignore them?

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      Mark D.

      I was wondering the same thing. I suppose they pull out these cold “anomalies” from the globull temperature data sets. They are outliers

      You can clearly see the warming once you remove these holes.

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    sophocles

    Kenneth Richards has compiled an (abbreviated) list of locations around the world which have or are experiencing these “Warming Holes” at notrickszone.

    If you live in a country listed as a “warming hole” you are exhorted to write to your government and demand to know why so much is being spent to cure that which is not wrong … :-)

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    PeterS

    Sounds like they are watching too many stupid movies like “Cold Zone” where they blame the sudden freezing to death of people everywhere and a cataclysmic new ice age on global warming. They just don’t get it. Such movies, especially the ones from Hollywood are not documentaries but are typically the opposite of reality, just like CAGW.

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    NB

    Digging themselves into a hole.

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      King Geo

      Spot on NB.

      The IPCC and the “Green Gravy Train” have dug themselves a very deep hole – their “Alarmist GW Prophesies” are not coming to fruition. As each year passes the hole becomes more unstable and prone to collapse. Global Temps at best are flat-lining (past few decades) and when they do inevitably fall during the imminent LIA – the hole will completely collapse and bury the “Warmists” – their egos that is. Can’t wait for that day to arrive.

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    StephenP

    ‘Scientific’ articles like the one quoted above are prime candidates for their own version of ‘Bulls**t Bingo’. These are great fun to take the tedium out of boring meetings.
    Squares in the Bingo sheet will need to include ‘global warming’ ‘climate change’ ‘the need for more research funds’. Jo would no doubt find it easy to fill in more squares!

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      tom0mason

      By transitioning to a renewable and sustainable future, computer model evidence shows that with a necessary and adequate state supported subsidy, future generations need not languish with the fossils fueled by an old paradigm but move forward, riding high on blue sky ‘out of your box’ thinking, enabling positive forcing of increased income in a new age of Bitcoin driven Bull$hit Bingo.

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    Bevan Dockery

    Why do you display rubbish like this yet fail to acknowledge my analysis of climate data freely available on the Internet that shows that:
    1. Increased atmospheric CO2 concentration has not caused an increase in satellite lower troposphere temperature,
    2. Temperature has controlled the rate of change of CO2 concentration.
    3. The autocorrelation function and the Fourier amplitude spectra of both temperature and rate of change of CO2 are practically identical showing a prominent maximum at a period of 42 months. This is the synodic period of the Sun, Earth, Moon configuration and is the likely cause of the El Nino effect.
    4. That is, climate change is controlled by the motion of the Moon and the planets relative to the Sun and the Earth ?
    The evidence is clearly there for anyone who bothers to look.

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      el gordo

      ‘This is the synodic period of the Sun, Earth, Moon configuration and is the likely cause of the El Nino effect.’

      Are you familiar with the work of Ian Wilson?

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        Bevan Dockery

        Thank you for that elgordo, I will endeavour to read his articles.
        I see that some of his work has been about the effect of the Moon. I was amazed to see my result of the Fourier Amplitude Spectrum from the weekly CO2 Mauna Loa data. It showed local maxima for the synodic period of the Moon, 29.6 days, and the draconic period, 27.2 days. That is, the rate of change of CO2 concentration can be used as a proxy for atmospheric temperature and the orbit of the Moon affects the Earth’s temperature as it passes between the Sun and the Earth every month. No CO2 needed to explain ‘Climate Change’.

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      neil

      Mate, it’s called the “Milankovitch cycles” and the moon has nothing to do with it.

      And why would we read your analysis when proper scientists have published proper analysis.

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        Bevan Dockery

        No Neil, I am talking about short term climate changes. The Milankovich cycles relate to the orbit of the Earth with respect to the Sun for periods of thousands of years in an attempt to explain ice ages.
        My analysis is for satellite lower troposphere temperature and atmospheric CO2 concentration taken from the World Data Centre for Greenhouse Gases. The time series are not sufficiently long to encompass the periods between ice ages. The satellite temperature data only covers December 1978 to January 2018, 470 months, at monthly intervals. The Mauna Loa Observatory CO2 data extends from March 1958 to January 2018, 719 months , at monthly intervals. Hence the data can only define periods of the order of the orbits of the Moon, Earth, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter not the very long term changes such as inclination and axial wobble.
        However I admire your great insight in deciding that I am not a proper scientist and my analysis is improper even though you have not read it. You could be a ‘Climate Scientist’.

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        el gordo

        Neil its of importance that we work out the ENSO enigma, Ian Wilson predicted the El Nino of 2015/16 and says there is another coming in 2019.

        This is hugely important if we are to get a handle on climate change, ENSO being the main player.

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      sophocles

      Bevan Dockery claimed:

      climate change is controlled by the motion of the Moon and the planets relative to the Sun and the Earth

      I disagree strongly with your fourth point. We are in an Ice Age which started c. 3 MYA. It has had something like 33 or 34 stadials (glaciations). The early stadials were about 40,000 Y long (40KY), and the later ones (including the last) were c. 100,000 Y long (100KY). These periods correspond well to known Milankovic Cycles. I would not call them an an attempt to explain the cycles within an ice age. They are a good fit to the frequency and duration of the Stadials and Interstadials are a good fit, though, as is Solar activity.

      The present warm period is the Holocene Inter-stadial. What you are calling “climate change” is effectively “noise” in the overall higher trends, as stadials and inter-stadials are noise within an Ice-Age.

      Your proposed mechanism for the causes of the minor variations of climate within an Ice Age’s stadials and inter-stadials, may or may not be right but it misses by a galactic orbit for something as big as a real Ice Age. It’s inadequate.

      How did the Quaternary Ice Age start? What was it’s cause?

      I suggest it’s fundamental cause is the Solar System’s orbit around the galactic centre as proposed by Shaviv. Then there are the Dansgaard Oeschger cycles. (Good explanation by Javier at Judy Curry’s blog).

      The driver of the “climate noise” is most likely Solar Activity.
      Definition of terms:
      ——————–
      Ice Age: a prolonged period of the presence of Ice on planet earth.(requires low temperatures)
      Stadial: a glaciation within the Ice Age, or Cold Period
      Inter-stadial: A short warming within the Ice Age or Warm Period. Separates stadials.

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        sophocles

        Bother.
        Lot’s of Anglo Saxon and Anglicised Dutch in the form of Expletives Deleted.

        The above wasn’t supposed to be posted. I wrote it, read Bevan’s post more carefully and went to delete it. Oops. I don’t know quite how this happened, but I own it. All postings and accidents are mine :-) .

        Anyway: Ignore this Bevan, unless it has something you find interesting.

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        el gordo

        ‘How did the Quaternary Ice Age start? What was it’s cause?’

        Closure of the Central American Seaway is a prime suspect and I suspect at Holocene’s end there will be plans afoot to reopen it.

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          sophocles

          Closure of the Central American Seaway is a prime suspect

          only because scientists are like most other people: they don’t look up. Want to hide? Climb a house or a tree and sit still. You are far less likely to be seen. (Go up!).

          Scientists are just as blind to what happens over their heads and go looking for a plausible reason under their feet. Stiff-necked bunch. Okay, the volcanism for the closure might have contributed a bit, but I’m not so sure it’s a direct cause, because the galaxy has far more horsepower and packs bigger guns than this little mud ball.

          So here’s my take on what caused the Quaternary Ice Age, FWIW:

          The Solar System entered Gould’s Belt, about 5.0-3.0MYA. The Ice Age is thought to have been kicked off by a nearby Super Nova about 2.5MYA. Gould’s Belt is a fairly recent feature of the Orion Spur (secondary spiral arm) thought to have formed c. 33MYA from a gas cloud which inserted itself into the arm.

          It’s an area with high rates of star birth and star death, with a consequent high level of cosmic rays, and is home to many O- and B- magnitude, short lived blue giant stars. The big bright stars in Orion, the Hyades, Scorpio etc are all part of Gould’s Belt. These stars are short-lived (eg Mintaka, Alnilam and Alnitake of Orion’s belt, Bellatrix, Rigel, Canopus, Achernar, Castor, Pollux, etc) and likely to turn Super Nova any time soon. Antares (Scorpio, c. 11MY old, c. 604lyrs away) and Betelguese (Orion, c. 80MY old, c.430ly away) were big B-magnitude blue giants which have now entered their Red giant final stage and will explode soon (if they haven’t already :-)

          There are a number of carcasses heading away, such as the Geminga neutron star, the remains of a supernova in Gemini (part of Gould’s Belt). about 300KYA. (Thought to have created the Local Bubble at one stage.)

          Because of Gould’s Belt’s high concentration of Cosmic Rays, we are in the refrigerator (= Quaternary Ice Age) as the Solar System crosses the belt. It might take us maybe another 20 – 30 MY to come out the other side. Betelguese and Antares may not wait that long, so about 600 years after either one goes off, we go colder still for short while.

          Now add the modulation of the Milankovic Cycles and hey presto: the dance of the stadials and the inter-stadials is under way.

          See also
          1. SVENSMARK Henrik, CALDER Nigel, “The Chilling Stars, A Cosmic View of Climate Change” 2008, Icon Books, ISBN 978-1840468-66-3
          2. for Shaviv’s ideas about ice ages.

          for more information.

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            Bevan Dockery

            sophocles, as I stated in my reply to Neil at #14.2.1, I have been dealing with the UAH satellite lower troposphere record which will be 40 years long at the end of this year and the CO2 data which will be 60 years long at the end of the year. This means that I am only seeing effects that have periods of the order of decades at most. The ice ages are a totally different event that require a completely different data set.
            The IPCC predictions that our politicians, bureaucrats and media slavishly follow, are dealing with the present and near future and I hope that I am demonstrating that they are a gigantic mistake – to put it politely.

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              sophocles

              Yes, I’ve chased down and read some of your writings and I apologize for that post—it wasn’t meant to see the light of day but some how it did. (You can see from the spelling/grammar errors in it that it’s in a pre-post state. I try to maintain a higher standard.)

              While I’m on the topic of your writing, I’m going to “pick a nit” with you. :-)
              Here it is: You wrote (2013):

              … the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer, … because they caused ozone depletion in the stratosphere. This depletion allows excessive ultraviolet-B (UV-B) from the Sun to reach the Earth’s surface where it increases the risk of skin cancer, cataracts, and suppresses the immune system for humans and also damages other life forms.

              (my emphasis)
              Lack of exposure to UV-B depresses the human immune system. UV-B is necessary for humans to make Vitamin D. Our bodies use vitamin D to manufacture their own antibiotics (ABs). If UV-B exposure is low to non-existent (blocked by clothing and/or sunscreens), then our bodies can’t manufacture their own ABs. What happens then is hardly Rocket Science.

              We make it in our skins from UV-B exposuare. Vitamin D is our immune system.

              Skin cancers are more likely with low levels of Vit D. High levels of Vit-D is our first line and most powerful defence against skin cancers and other cancers including breast cancer, colon cancer prostate cancer etc …

              It’s lack of UV-B exposure creating low-levels of Vit-D in our bodies which lead to big health problems such as heart disease, diabetes, alzheimers etc. The Slip, Slap, Slop campaign seems to coincide with increases in autisms, ADHDs, allergies, asthmas, dementias, and other ailments including but not limited to skin and other cancers.

              Allergies and asthmas hint at immune system problems, while autisms and ADHD hint at in utero brain development (mother’s vit-D level). Vit-D is not an immune system aide, it is the immune system driver. Mothers need to consider their Vitamin D levels more during pregnancy.

              Solar exposure got demonized during the big ozone scare, same as CO2 has been demonized through CAGW.

              Yes, Aus and NZ have the highest rates of skin cancers in the world, but we also have the highest rates of survival for these cancers.

              (See
              WISHART, Ian, “Vitamin D” 2012; Howling at the Moon Publishing (NZ), ISBN: 978-0-9876573-1-2.

              Addressing the health benefits and risks, involving vitamin D or skin cancer, of increased sun exposure,” J. Moan et al, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, PNAS, Jan 15, 2008 vol 105 no.2 p 668-673

              “Is vitamin D important for preserving cognition? A positive correlation of serum 25-hydroxyvitamin-D concentration with cognitive function.” Przybelski RJ, Binkley NC, Archives of Biochemistry & Biophysics, 2007, Apr 15;460(2):202-5. Epub 2007 Jan 9

              and there are lots more where those few came from.

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    robert rosicka

    I just love the guys name ” Jonathan Winter” , is he related to Jack Frost I wonder ?

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    tom0mason

    So it’s not cold or cooling now, it’s a warmth hole.
    So using that ‘logic’ then –

    It’s not poverty but a wealth hole, and right now I’ve just got a cash hole.

    It’s not a blackout it’s an electricity hole.

    It’s not academia it logic and knowledge hole.

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    robert rosicka

    Actually I think they had more credibility when they just denied any pause .

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    pattoh

    Yep, & in a pinch they know where the WMDs were hidden, how working on the U2 program allowed LHO to up sticks & go to the USSR & how WT7 fell down because of poor building regs.

    & of course the various cycles controlling the TSI have nothing to do with it.

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    TedM

    Yes a hole, a dirty big hole in the CAGW hypothesis.

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    Ruairi

    Many folks won’t buy ‘warming hole’,
    Nor touch with a ten-foot pole,
    But as skeptics keep wigging,
    Those warmists still digging,
    Their theory runs out of control.

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    aussie pete

    Well we looked down the hole, poor demented soul and he said
    Do you mind if I make a suggestion?
    Don’t dig there, dig it elsewhere
    Your digging it round and it ought to be square
    The shape of it’s wrong, it’s much too long
    And you can’t put hole where a hole don’t belong

    Thanks to Bernard Cribbins – climate scientist before his time.

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    TdeF

    You have to admire the total hypocrisy of the left. Global warming with holes. Then you get the absurdity that the Russians won the US election. Russians paid by a rich Russian in St.Petersberg who knows Putin? No locking up George Soros then? He’s just Hungarian and openly pays demonstrators for Clinton and against Trump and Brexit and any other attempt at democracy.

    As for interfering in other country elections, no one objected to Obama telling Britons to vote against BREXIT. The press did not mind when Obama came to Australia and said we were killing the Great Barrier Reef by removing his friend Julia Gillard and the Greens. Let a few Russians back both Sanders and Trump and even the Australian editorializes against Putin. What is hard to understand is that for a Hungarian or a US president to blatantly try to influence foreign elections is bad. For 13 Russians to try to have an influence in the US elections is not to be tolerated. Especially if they want to release Hillary’s secret emails. Assange is a hero.

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    TdeF

    I did not mean Assange was really a hero but the US and UK want him locked up for their own reasons. However he released the Clinton Secretary of State emails when no one else would, as some Russians leaked to him, so he is an enemy of the state and under house arrest. The Russians also. Consider these (secret) emails were on Weiner’s computer anyway and Weiner has no reason for having them unencrypted in plain English on his laptop. The Clinton’s have a lot of questions to answer but the press still blame the Russians. If she had won, none of this would have come to light.

    I saw a sign on a post today “Free Assange”. I looked around. Nothing free at all.

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      TdeF

      Assange is a case of the public being told about Assange what they press want them to know. Even the fact that 13 Russians are indicted is touted as proof Putin interfered with the US elections, even by the Australian newspaper. Nothing of the sort was in Mueller’s report. This small group also organized protests in New York on the same day both for and against Trump. As if Soros was a passive bystander! The Russians also supported Bernie Sanders. This was no more interference than the Chinese, British (Nigel Farage), French or even the Australians. Everyone had a vested interest in the US elections. Our Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said we would ‘survive’ Trump.

      However Trump is the one and perhaps the only world figure who says Climate Change is make believe. Everyone else knows it too but the Green Industrial lobby is just too profitable. Carbon Credits too. Communists love it because they can demand the end of democracy and free speech, just to silence sceptics.

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        pat

        TdeF -

        and why hasn’t Christopher Steele been indicted? there’s solid evidence to suggest he should be.
        the Mueller investigation is a total farce, yet Trump can’t shut it down.

        apart from the fact Rod Rosenstein suddenly announced there’d be a press conference in 45 minutes to announce these “indictments”, just as the FBI were having to admit they dropped the ball completely as regards the Florida school shooter, look how minor the Russian “interference” was:

        18 Feb: Washington Examiner: Byron York: A non-alarmist reading of the Mueller Russia indictment
        According to the indictment, it began in May 2014…
        The indictment is vague on what the Russians spent. It says that by September 2016, nearly the end of the campaign, the operation spent about $1.25 million a month. But in terms of what the Russians paid for social media ads, the indictment just says “thousands” of dollars every month.
        The sums are rounding errors in a race in which the Clinton and Trump campaigns spent a combined $2.4 billion….

        Facebook officials gave more details in statements and testimony before the Senate and House intelligence committees a few months ago. First, Facebook said the Russian operation bought about 3,000 ads, spending about $100,000 on Facebook and Instagram combined. That is compared to about $81 million the Clinton and Trump campaigns spent on Facebook and Instagram combined.

        Facebook estimated about 11 million people saw at least one of the ads between 2015 and 2017. But that wasn’t all before the election. Facebook said that of ad “impressions” — that is, how many times an ad appeared on screen in a person’s news feed — just 44 percent came before the election, while 56 percent came after the election.
        About 25 percent of the ads were never seen by anyone, Facebook said. And of the total ads, “The vast majority…didn’t specifically reference the U.S. presidential election, voting or a particular candidate.”…

        Looking at key states, the total spent on ads targeting Wisconsin was $1,979, according to Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Richard Burr. Ad spending in Michigan was $823. In Pennsylvania, it was $300.
        That is not the stuff of rigging elections…

        The company estimates that a total of around 150 million people may have been “served content” from a page associated with the Russians during the two-year period before and after the election. That means that some Russian-produced content was visible on news feeds — not that Facebook users necessarily saw it or engaged with it.

        “This equals about four-thousands of one percent (0.004%) of content in News Feed, or approximately 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content,” Facebook executive Colin Stretch said in prepared testimony before the Senate last November…
        http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-a-non-alarmist-reading-of-the-mueller-russia-indictment/article/2649445

        think of the paid David Brock “Correct the Record” trolls, which even Wikipedia reports was legally dodgy (like most things connected to the Clintons), or the Soros-paid activists, or the MSM collusion to stop Trump, etc etc., yet all we get are some trolls who had been exposed long before Trump became a Republican nominee.

        the Mueller indictments could have been just cobbled together from articles in Russia, as per below, or from the NYT Mag and Buzzfeed articles that seemed to get their info from the Russian journos’ lengthy expose.

        18 Feb: WaPo: Adam Taylor: The Russian journalist who helped uncover election interference is confounded by the Mueller indictments
        But much of the information Mueller published on Friday about the agency’s efforts to influence the election had already been published last October — in an article by a Russian business magazine, RBC.
        In a 4,500-word report titled “How the ‘troll factory’ worked the U.S. elections,” journalists Polina Rusyaeva and Andrey Zakharov offered the fullest picture yet of how the “American department” of the IRA used Facebook, Twitter and other tactics to inflame tensions ahead of the 2016 vote. The article also looked at the staffing structure of the organization and revealed details about its budget and salaries…

        Zakharov explained how it was a strange feeling seeing something he had so closely investigated become a major issue in the United States, when it had not been a “bombshell” when he published his report at home…

        Zakharov: The other staff mentioned are very incidental. I mean, it seems like they put down all the names they could get. Some were people who worked there in 2014 — but most of these guys didn’t work for the troll factory for a long time. They didn’t even work there during the elections. Like Krylova, she didn’t work there then…
        It looks like they just took some employees from the that American department whose names they could get. But the American department was like 90 people. So my reaction was that, for me, it was like that curious list of oligarchs and Kremlin authorities where they put the whole Forbes list and the whole Kremlin administration on it. It’s very strange…

        Zakharov: For us it was easier. I lived in St. Petersburg before and worked as a journalist there. Russian media has been covering the troll factory since 2013, long before the big investigation in the New York Times Magazine — and by the way, most of the things in that were just taken from my colleagues…

        A lot of Russian conservatives were proud. They said: “Look at what Russians can do! Only 90 people with $2 million made America scared! We are strong!” And for conservative people here, they see that Americans have CNN, Radio Free Europe, etc., that cover Russia. They say, “Why can’t we establish groups in America and have our own influence?” That’s how conservative people think here. They think this was normal.
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/18/the-russian-journalist-who-helped-uncover-election-meddling-is-confounded-by-the-mueller-indictments/?utm_term=.de3225996bf3

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          pat

          how funny. sundance has similar thoughts. read all:

          18 Feb: ConservativeTreehouse: sundance: Too Funny: Special Prosecutor Mueller Patched Together Much of His ‘Muh Russia’ Indictment from Old News Articles…
          A large number of people who read the Mueller 13-person Russian Indictment released on Friday noted a transparent lack of actual substance. Today the absence of substance turns toward the hilarious.

          Much like the heavily touted sketchy 2017 Joint Analysis Report (the infamous “14 U.S. intelligence agencies report“) was really only three political intel agencies, FBI (Comey), CIA (Brennan) and ODNI (Clapper), Friday’s Russian indictment had a lot of pages and citations but in the aggregate was an assembly of nothing-burger reporting of various insignificant social media events.

          Today the absurdity of the report becomes even more laughable. As Gateway Pundit reports almost everything in the Mueller indictment was previously outlined in a Radio Free Europe report from 2015. If that wasn’t funny enough, even the Washington Post finds the majority of the indictment was published last October in a Russian Business Magazine (RBC) article.

          So what exactly is going on here? Is this entire narrative really just creating the illusion of something, anything, simply because something began… continued… and was really nothing.

          Well, essentially, YES…
          https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/18/too-funny-special-prosecutor-mueller-patched-together-much-of-his-muh-russia-indictment-from-old-news-articles/

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        Rod Stuart

        Too true. Assange played a huge role in shedding light on the Clintons.
        Ross Cameron on “The Outsiders” on Sky News on Sunday had a HUGE rant about the fact that Assange has not even been accused of a crime, apart from the hyped Swedish case.
        There is a lot more to this story than the public is aware of.

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    pat

    we all know about Oxfam’s CAGW alarmism, but World Vision is no different:

    18 Feb: Daily Mail: British-funded charity supported by Meghan Markle faces food for sex scandal after Haiti quake survivors were told by its workers they could either pay for aid… or sleep with them for it
    Charity World Vision has admitted its workers traded food and cash for sex
    The confession by the charity will dismay supporters, including Meghan Markle
    MPs demanded an investigation into the aid industry and suggested World Vision – like Oxfam – might be stripped of bidding for fresh work with Dfid
    By Ian Birrell
    Last night, MPs demanded an investigation into the aid industry and suggested World Vision – like Oxfam – might be stripped of bidding for fresh work with the Department for International Development (Dfid).
    ‘It is astonishing people contracted to work on projects in Haiti could trade goods and cash for sex to some of the most vulnerable people on earth,’ said Tory MP Nigel Evans…

    The investigation singled out criticism of World Vision projects, including ‘concerns about various forms of exploitation of beneficiaries, fraud, nepotism and inaccurate records’ according to one internal email…
    How aid workers trawled the Haiti tent cities to pick up young orphaned girls as young as 12 for sex
    By Ian Gallagher, in Port-Au-Prince Haiti
    ‘The men were from European and American agencies who knew exactly the situation. They arrived at the refugee camps in their Land Cruisers but were careful not to wear anything revealing which charity they represented…

    Oxfam is accused of covering up claims that its workers used prostitutes in Haiti in 2011 – and has been ordered to send evidence of alleged criminal behaviour by its staff to law enforcement agencies.
    The process paves the way for prosecutions to be considered there or in the suspects’ countries…READ ON
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5404317/Charity-backed-Meghan-Markle-faces-food-sex-scandal.html

    World Vision: Climate Change: Why World Vision cares about the environment
    Damage to the environment and climate change are already challenging our work and mission around the world, and will continue to do so in the coming years. That’s why they aren’t just environmental problems – they’re also development problems…
    A threat to sources of food and income
    Extreme weather is making this much more difficult – droughts that used to happen once every 10 to 20 years are now happening every two or three years; severe storms, extreme heat events or prolonged dry spells can wipe out entire crops. This leaves families unable to provide enough nutritious food for their children and without an income…

    World Vision calls on the Australian government to support emission reduction targets, increase research in areas that will reduce the vulnerability of poor communities to climate change and increase aid directed to helping developing countries deal with the challenges of climate change.
    World Vision is also helping local communities around the world deal with the impacts of climate change…
    https://www.worldvision.com.au/global-issues/work-we-do/climate-change/why-world-vision-cares-about-the-environment

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    neil

    There must be a hole in Melbourne because this is the second very average summer in a row. Last year we got a couple of days that just crept over 30, this year we’ve had half a dozen in the thirties.

    A typical Melbourne summer would normally give us 4~5 days over 40 and one or two over 44. It’s mid Feb and I have to wear a second layer to keep my balcony door open, normally in Feb I would have the A/C or fan on all night. I know it has been hot up north, but Melbourne has been cold.

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    pat

    so it’s not cheaper than fossil fuels?

    18 Feb: Financial Times: Ministers warned on subsidy risk to offshore wind power projects
    At least 2 proposed floating farms under threat unless scheme extended
    by Andrew Ward
    Ministers have been warned that the UK risks forfeiting leadership of a promising new form of offshore wind power because of a withdrawal of subsidies which threatens to leave projects without funding.
    At least two proposed floating wind farms off Scotland will not go ahead, industry leaders said, unless a subsidy scheme due for expiry in October is extended…

    The case highlights the dilemma facing government as it tries to reduce the burden of green subsidies on bill payers in line with the stated aim of Theresa May, prime minister, to make UK energy costs the lowest in Europe.
    Sharp falls in the cost of wind and solar power have raised hopes in Whitehall that subsidies can be gradually reduced and withdrawn from renewable energy without undermining the shift to low-carbon energy.

    However, industry leaders say the next generation of renewable technology, including floating wind farms, still needs support in its early stages to achieve economies of scale that bring costs down in the long run…

    Industry has proposed that the subsidies, which normally run for 20 years, would stop in 2037 as originally planned even if the start date was delayed, reducing the cost to energy consumers…
    https://www.ft.com/content/270a5e2e-1331-11e8-8cb6-b9ccc4c4dbbb

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    Bitter&Twisted

    ROFLMAO

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    Turtle of WA

    I predict an ever-increasing number of ever-larger holes. Until the Earth is just one big hole.

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    pat

    16 Feb: IOP Science: Environmental Research Letters: Interactions between urban heat islands and heat waves
    Lei Zhao, Michael Oppenheimer, Qing Zhu, Jane W Baldwin, Kristie L Ebi, Elie Bou-Zeid
    http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aa9f73/meta

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    Earth is a cold planet

    Saturday, January 13, 2018

    To know WHAT the human being DOES NOTHING CHANGE THE CLIMATE! NOTHING !

    The climate is what? It is global cold that receives two heat sources: The sun (seasonally) and the volcanoes (continually). It is these millions (billions?) Of submarine or oceanic volcanoes that warm ocean and ocean currents in perpetuity. The GolfStream takes these degrees to Iceland, England and the Brittany coast (among others) where they go back to the beaches and soften the atmosphere.

    Without these hot springs several thousand meters deep we would be ALL FREE!

    It is these heat discharged back to the surface that are carried away by the JetStreams far off the land and not the sun’s rays of the equator transported to the poles for thousands of kilometers! Hahahaha!

    It is not the sun that has momentarily died out when our globe has experienced long icy periods, but only a lesser or absent global volcanic activity, because the sun was no farther than it was before, or veiled or masked by another planet!

    To these magmatic ‘mood movements’ are added the planetary cycles. Currently we are in the cooling cycle. Colder and longer winters and shorter summers.

    For millions of years there are billions of km³ of water (from rains, rivers & rivers) that have poured into the seas & oceans … WITHOUT WHERE THEY DO NOT UP !!! That’s it! Quite simply because water continuously seeps into the ocean and sea floors to the magma where this poisonous soup (the fish [[snip] droppings] in the sea!) Is heated / boiled and goes up (as in a coffee maker) to the sources (hot or cold depending on the altitude) and towards the water tables it fills.

    It is the same for expelled hydrocarbons that can be burned without loss (like those of volcanoes) because, ALL gases are recycled. ALL! (If it was not the case, the animals would not have even appeared on Earth!).

    https://huemaurice5.blogspot.fr/2017/12/est-ce-que-40-000-volcans-sont.html

    https://huemaurice5.blogspot.fr/2015/03/les-volcans-sous-marins-finalement-pris.html

    https://www.ventusky.com

    https://huemaurice5.blogspot.fr/2018/01/la-terre-est-une-planete-froide.html

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    tom0mason

    Some weather model watchers believe next week all of Europe (and the UK), will get a very deep hole in the warming opening up on them –
    https://www.youtube.com/embed/RjXAWg94If0

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    Betapug

    Dr Johnny Winter?

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    Roy Hogue

    When you start with manmade climate change as a given, you can invent anything you want to explain why your rock solid given isn’t happening.

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      Roy Hogue

      What the gods giveth, the gods can taketh away, leaving the disciples of climate change scrambling for an answer.

      Personally, I wouldn’t give up my day job because they’re not very convincing.

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    Dave in the States

    …linked to a more wavy pattern in the jet stream that crosses North America.

    This is known to be typical of global cooling as La Nina conditions become more manifest. They should have consulted a meteorological text book before jumping in that hole, I guess. For a discussion of the “wavy patterns” over N. America:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/01/13/a-climate-history-lesson-extremism-of-stories-like-bomb-cyclone-is-a-good-thing/

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    There seem to be a lot of these Global warming Holes about these days, and worse still, they seem to be joining up into something that looks a lot like Global Cooling.

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    Greg Cavanagh

    “Either because of coincidence or cooler climes, residents of these states tend to be relatively doubtful that” bla bla bla.

    It takes a special kind of academic to “just know” that belief is uniform throughout America, except the ones that answer the poles in these districts because that’s just bad luck that only sceptics answer the poles in those districts.

    Don’t ask them why they don’t believe, hell now. You know they do, but coincidence conspires to pole only those who don’t believe. Everyone believes, everyone knows that.

    These people are so insulated from the real world, it makes me wonder how they feed themselves.

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    vuurklip

    Oh! Oh!

    And some holes(!) produce methane!

    What a catastrophe!

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    Don Gaddes

    The ‘X Factor’ solar-induced orbital ‘Dry’ Cycles are alternated with ‘Wet’/Normal Periods (or cycles.) These cycles are Longitudinal in effect,(not a ‘waving’ Jet Stream.) The current One Earth/Solar Year (2017-18) ‘Wet’/Normal Period started over China in mid-February 2017– reached North American longitudes in August 2017 – and Australia in early January 2018,(hence recent precipitation events.) The next One Earth/Solar Year ‘Dry’ Cycle has started over 110 degrees Longitude,(circa Beijing), in mid February 2018 – and will reach the U.S. around August 2018.
    These X Factor Cycles were described and predicted by Alex S. Gaddes in his work ‘Tomorrow’s Weather’(1990.) An updated version of this work,(including ‘Dry’ Cycle forecasts to 2055,) is available as a free pdf from dongaddes93@gmail.com

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