By Jo Nova
Andrew Hastie has “Nailed his colors to the mast”
Since belief in Climate Change is maintained through bullying and coercion rather than evidence, it takes someone brave to stand up to it.
The Greens can be intimidating, but in Andrew Hastie’s last career, he took on the Taliban, so being called a climate denier is only so scary.
The Liberal Party has fallen to 27% primary vote — a dismal, perhaps death-spiral position, mirroring the UK Tories. Yet Trump won in the US by calling Net Zero a hoax and dumping it entirely. And Nigel Farage is storming up the polls in the UK — breaking the ancient two-party system.
The last time the Liberals stormed an election in Australia was when Tony Abbott won 90 seats promising to Axe the (Carbon) Tax. Polls show 83% of Australians don’t like higher emissions targets. They also show half of Australia doesn’t want to pay a single cent on Net Zero targets. Even the Labor Party hid their new bigger (stupider) Net Zero target during the election because they know the voters don’t want it.
Yet despite all these radioactive hot electoral signs, The Opposition Leader Sussan Ley has dithered and delayed on Net Zero, putting off the decision until next year after a long review.
Andrew Hastie is brave enough to stand up to the namecalling bullies, and can’t bear waiting any longer:
Andrew Hastie issues ultimatum over Coalition commitments to net zero
ARC Forum, Andrew Hastie, Flickr
The home affairs spokesman issued the ultimatum on ABC radio in Perth on Monday, just days after the sacking of senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price from the front bench.
When asked what he would do if Opposition Leader Sussan Ley attached the Coalition to net zero commitments, the Western Australian MP responded: “That leaves me without a job”.
“I’ve nailed my colours to the mast,” he told ABC Radio Perth.
Predictably, The Age called him a dinosaur — set for extinction. Meanwhile the feminists are baffled that any conservative MP would dare undermine a female leader “and hope to get elected”, as if voters wake up thinking they can’t afford steak for dinner but they need more female politicians in their lives.
The sexist take is demeaning, as if Australian women are so small-minded they might vote for X or Y chromosomes rather than cheaper electricity bills, or affordable homes.
But at least one senior member of the Liberal Party is warning of a mass exodus over Net Zero without some conditions.
‘Mass exodus’ if Ley supports net zero at any cost, warns Liberal
Phillip Coorey, Australian Financial Review
Opposition education spokesman Jonathon Duniam says there could be a “mass exodus” from Sussan Ley’s frontbench unless the Coalition dumps or qualifies its support for net zero emissions by 2050.
The only solid Liberal governments in Australian states left are, as Chris Ulmann points out, in Queensland and the Northern Territory, where they are paired with the Nationals and not pandering to the left. (The NT government will not implement their Net Zero Target. And Queensland has axed their renewable energy targets, and vowed to keep coal plants running for another decade. )
Something has to give
Craig Kelly, former Liberal MP, says it could be the start of a whole new Australian conservative party and lays out his vision:
Here we go, the planets are aligning.
With too many bedwetters, the Liberal Party doesn’t have courage nor the troops to take on the Net Zero scam. Here’s how it could play out.
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- Hastie resigns over the Liberal Party’s weakness on fighting Net Zero.
- At least half a dozen others Liberals join him.
- Hastie then announces a new party and invites all other Liberals to join – a few more jump the sinking Liberal Party ship.
- There is then a convention (like Menzies held in Albury in December 1944) of the breakaway Liberals and all smaller like minded parties including; the Nationals, One Nation, Libertarians, Family First, Katters Australia, Rennick’s People & United Australia.
- Policy platforms are determined and they vote to make Andrew Hastie the leader and Jacinta Price deputy leader of new united force to take on Labor at the 2028 election.
- Sitting MPs and Senators that join are automatically preselected, and nominations are called for candidates for all 150 lower house seats and the senate positions in every state – with preselections to be held by democratic primary.
- The left over Liberals fade in obscurity with several joining the Teals.
- The new entity storms the nation, and hits the lead in polls (like Reform in the UK) and smashes Labor at the 2028 Federal election.
- Net Zero is scrapped, Migration is cut, freedom of speech guaranteed, pro-family tax reforms introduced, and covid royal commissions commenced.
- Australia is saved.
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Bear in mind, Hastie chose not to contest the leadership in May after the election, and has young children, so he may not be trying to take over the leadership or split the party — he might just want to give Sussan Ley a reason she can’t ignore to commit to a stance that most of Australia wants.
Right now here in Crazy Land, the government wants to bankrupt the nation to fiddle with the weather in 2100, and the Opposition isn’t even opposing it.
A culture war needs a fighter.
Andrew Hastie in Afghanistan | Photo by Brenden Conroy
h/t El Gordo, David B
A new party with a right side politician at the helm.
And then labor announced that everyone will get $400 back on their electricity bills and welfare will be increased by 30% and they won in a landslide.
Of course, the money never eventuates.
And 3 years later they promised more with the same delivery. And are still re-elected.
The electorate is truly that silly. And of course, lying during an election campaign will never be illegal, not while labor own the parliament.
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Agreed, with one exception.
Neither branch of the uniparty wants to make lying in an election campaign illegal.
They all lie.
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Lying, it’s their stock in trade.
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Lying wannabees and sheep.
Nothing ever changes.
2028 – hurry up now! 😉
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I think it’s a complete waste of resources for conservative-oriented people to support the Liberals. They are no longer a conservative party and no longer adhere to their statement of beliefs. At best they are Labor Lite and I don’t even think they actually want to get elected.
Why do the hard work of getting elected when Labor exercises many of your policy positions anyway?
When was the last time you heard of the Libs complaining about excessive Government spending, debt, regulation, censorship, massive inappropriate immigration far beyond any ability to absorb such future Labor voters?
Don’t forget also it was Liberals that set Australia on the path to unreliable and expensive energy, gave away most of our gas supply to the Chicomms at the world’s cheapest prices and set up the Internet censorship regime which is about to get far worse. They also banned IVM and HCQ during covid.
The Liberal Party has failed to implement conservative policies for decades. It’s time to back the minor conservative parties and make them large. There is no hope of Liberals winning, and especially not under the fully woke Ley.
https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html
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Liberals go to Jupiter to get more stupider.
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Yay- It took Jacinta to stick by her word, so lets hope the avalanche gathers more speed and roars to life as it covers the losers in its onward rush
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A Conservative political party. Hasn’t been tried for a while, but who knows: it might just work.
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I admire Andrew Hastie and I only hope that he can help lead the Liberals to a more sane position and an end to their stupid net zero nonsense.
Aussies have to grow up and learn to follow the factual data and stop believing in silly fairy tales.
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Nev, I think the Libs are beyond help, the best thing would be for Hastie to quit and take the best of the rest in the libs with him and start getting stuck into the govt on all fronts, there might be a chance to boot them next election if this move pays off.
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Nice thought. As basically cross bench politicians Hastie and Co would have minimal questions in QT and few staff. they could mount their campaign more effectively using social media and TV morning shows. Keep hammering a few fundamentals like Tony Abbott did and they could win. They do need to keep onside with their fellow conservatives in the minor parties.
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When Hastie was in Afghanistan he could count on all his fellow soldiers for support. They had his back. Unfortunately, with the LNP at the moment he has F Troop to support him. He would be fighting Labor and the leftie mainstream media, very much like fighting the Taliban and the Viet Cong combined. He who dares, wins- as they say.
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The Taliban and the VCs were more predictable and less dangerous than the modern Left including the Leftist infiltrators of the Liberal Party who dominate it who falsely call themselves “Moderates”.
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He would be fighting Labor plus the clowns behind him.
Libs are unelectable, so it’s either accept you’ll be in opposition for decades or start a new conservative party.
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Plus the people are approaching peak stupid -the bilge that comes from that media has turned their brains to mush
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I thinks that’s too pessimistic Glen. I suggest the 60% NO vote shows otherwise, that when given reliable data and the whole picture they can deliver a good decision.
But in Oz now, they are given neither, with the MSM denying any platform for disagreement, and the voting system forcing us to put a number against even candidates we consider unworthy (or worse).
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Meanwhile, to solve the problem of “high carbon liquid fuels” the government has announced a “new” project for Australia to become a world leader in Canola Based vegetable oils fuels because they ave a low carbon foot print.
Points to note.
1/ Why is Australia going down the gurgler so quickly when we are world leaders in so many areas?
2/ Why does the cost of living keep increasing with so many planet saving things happening?
3/ When it’s generally recognised that using valuable farmland for liquid fuel production is not a good thing i.e. land for food production declines, and its been tried 30 years ago with ethanol being the fuel of the future that has not been successful . Why have we seized on an “old” new idea to convince the masses the government is looking after us!
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Growing hydrocarbon fuels comes down to a simple choice.
Do you want food or fuel?
And since Australia has blown staggering amounts of money on wind and solar, there is no money left to irrigate vast areas for growing fuel.
Also, net food exporters such as US, Canada, Australia would have to stop exporting food so much of the world would starve.
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Also, where biofuels are grown, such as ethanol from corn in the US, ethanol in Australia from sugar cane (set up by John Howard) and ethanol from sugar cane in Brazil, large taxpayer subsidies or tax concessions are needed for all of them.
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David hits the nail on the head:
Do you want food or fuel
That should be a rallying cry against this stupidity.
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I want food and fuel. Evidently Mr Bowen has watched Back To The Future II. We can use garbage, including food waste, to power time-machines as well as other vehicles.
Doc Brown travelled to 2015 to secure this technology so…oh bugger- we’re out by ten years. But never mind, this won’t deter Doc Bowen.
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Ethanol from sugarcane isn’t as bad as bagasse is essentially a waste product.
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Bagasse is indeed a waste product and can de burnt as dry fuel but the ethanol comes from the sugar.
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Bagasse is somewhat wet even after the last pressing, but can (and is) by waste heat in the boiler house. Then it can be used as fuel but not oil has to be used to get this operation going.
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Before going down that crazy road you would think you might utilise the present resources that Australia has already. For example, larger potential ethanol production via sugar cane. Brazil is considered a third world country. They’ve now taken their ethanol blend to 30% year-round, have no issue with it, and we’re still stuck at 10%. We have the E85 but I think its consumption is very limited to the flex-fuel type cars. We should at least go to 15%.
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Why “should” we do that? The world has plenty of oil and ethanol is not viable without subsidies or sacrifice of food growing capability.
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David, you misunderstand the economics / agronomy of sugar cane or maize production. Compared to those crops, canola is very poor yielding and the energy production per hectare is therefore lower. So, yes, the food vs fuel argument does apply to canola oil production, no doubt. But for those extremely high yielding crops for ethanol production, that argument is weak.
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I know a bloke who was trying to make a soybean to biodiesel plant work. His plan was to sell the soy meal that is left after pressing the beans to recoup the cost of the beans. One ton of beans makes 50 gallons of oil. His plant was constructed of wood, with conveyors running on wooden guild ways. I took a look at him and told him that it was a fire hazard and had his insurance company inspected it? Less than one year later it caught on fire and burnt. Now that site has solar panels on it, in upstate New York.
So if the meal from the oil production is saleable as a feedstock them perhaps it could work financially. But I have my doubts. On an energy return basis no.
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And I do have a flex fuel car that will run on 85% ethanol but it uses 30% more fuel on ethanol but ethanol doesn’t cost 30% less, even with subsidies or concessional taxes. I run it on regular fuels.
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Fuel cost based on calorific value. How quaint.
Next thing we know the government will announce an additional tax on diesel because it has a higher calorific value. Another 15% should work.
“There just aren’t enough taxes in this country.”, said all the politicians trying their utmost to destroy the economy.
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That’s the problem with the current pricing situation with E fuels, the price drop doesn’t match the performance drop.
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Like most so called “green” initiatives, just pointless virtue signalling. The only I ever buy E10 is for hire cars.
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I heard a rumour somewhere that they could get fuel from Corn, so why don’t they just grow lots of corn then?
Umm! Wait a minute …..
Tony.
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The problem with making alcohol from sugars is that the fermentation process, (the yeast), is taking some of the chemical energy away.
It also takes a lot of energy to separate the water from the ethanol.
It would be great if we could ‘engineer’ a microbe to absorb sunlight in multiple wavelengths, (high efficiency), and to produce a hydrocarbon as a direct production.
I’d love to see E. coli modified to produce oil. You could just feed it CO2, sunlight and water and have long string hydrocarbons produced. As a bonus, the oxygen emitted will help us breathe.
Now that would be a Nobel prize, (and many, many cash sales), to brag about.
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Or algai run through transparent (to sunlight) pipes.
Oh! Hang on, it was tried but needed subsidises.
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Future Made in Australia should read Future Derailed Australia. I don’t know if Big Wind Bowen has dropped the pointless idea of trying to compete with China in manufacturing solar panels as part of that so-called initiative.
Quoted from the link below:
“Australia’s national science agency, CSIRO, projected that a LCLF industry could contribute between $6 billion to $12 billion annually in direct economic benefits.
However, the science agency said key questions remain around affordability and sustainability, as well as competition for feedstocks and economically efficient scales of production.“
https://7news.com.au/news/future-made-in-australia-albanese-government-to-announce-billion-dollar-investment-in-renewable-fuels-c-20046077
The CSIRO should cut to the chase and say it’s unsustainable and unaffordable. With affordable energy a future can actually be made.
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Andrew Hastie for PM!
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Clearly he is the underdog, up against the MSM propaganda, and should win the next election.
Craig Kelly made the point that Hastie might form a new party, a coalition of outlier parties. The Nat heretics, like Canavan and Joyce would join, and the smaller parties maybe encouraged by the prospect of sitting on the front bench.
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The problem is that even if Ley decided to dump net zero tomorrow no one would believe her sincerity.
Then the conservatives would be in a worse position!
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Perhaps the only way people would believe her is if she moved to the back bench at the same time?
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Brave is the wrong word. Brave would be declaring the whole thing as a giant lie to enable a theft and money laundering operation.
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Without for a moment doubting Andrew Hastie’s courage, declaring correctly as Abbott did, that the entire climate change claim is “cr*p” and that the carbon-dioxide demonisation is an outright lie devised to fool the world’s public into believing that “something must be done” is also cr*p, he just doe not go far enough.
Perhaps he is taking it one step at a time, but frankly, just declaring the entire thing a fra*d up front and pointing out why would get the whole thing out in the open sooner and bring an end to the damage sooner.
Asking Bowen, live on mainstream TV, to explain exactly how 4 molecules of CO2 in every 10,000 molecules of atmosphere manage to control our planet’s climate would be worth bothering to turn on the TV for the first time in almost 10 years.
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That’s an excellent way to express it.
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Bushie, good idea. Then some follow up questions – Like is he aware that only around 4% of those 4 molecules are produced by human activity, or that Australia’s ‘contribution’ is around 1% of the 4% and does he consider bankrupting the nation to the tune of trillions of dollars to solve that non-problem worth the effort? The deflection would be epic.
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Perhaps it might be better to ask why we are so certain that we can reduce CO2 by our efforts that cost jobs, raises taxes and electricity prices.
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And to see why the current Liberals will not drop Nut Zero, look at who among them are heavily invested in renewable subsidy harvesting.
Does Malcolm Turnbull still have a huge loan to them still outstanding, to use as a pressure point?
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Again, every person who wants to understand the facts about the climate should follow the data and not stupid fantasies.
The Co2 Coalition Scientists have provided us with the data and we should understand the truth before we start to believe in Labor’s silly fantasy world.
Anyway who wants to waste TRILLIONs of $ for zero change to the weather and climate? We only need to look up the data and learn to think.
https://co2coalition.org/facts/co2-is-plant-food/
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Meant green, sorry Neville.
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Australia being 1 or 2% of the worlds CO2 production, it’s like a flea on an elephants back trying to steer it with a whip.
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Bumped from yesterday’s “Bowen said” thread
“You’re missing an important point here –
You know all the special positive feedback conditions with H20 etc that amplify CO2 to the threat it is supposed to be?
Well there is a “Super Gasp magnifying set” that elevate the minuscule contribution of Oz to an agent of major catastrophe
(To quote Ted Egan – “would I lie to you”?) “
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Yeah but we are going to “feel proud” which is apparently much more important than doing something useful if you are Chris Bowen.
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The LNP has already self destructed by allowing left wing progressives to take over the party. They now look more like a confused combination of the Teals, Greens and Labor, all rolled into one, but stand for nothing and everything at the same time. The only thing left is for the party to formally break up. Most likely the Nats will become the new conservative party and possibly merge with One Nation when the dust settles, but this is probably a few years away. For a once great conservative party, this has been a sad end and to think it’s all been done from within their party.
In terms of a conservative revival, unlike the UK, we have no Farage and there is no one seemingly capable of leading a conservative revival even on the horizon. Hastie is the closest candidate, but he’s a political lightweight and will be easy prey for our ABC Marxist media, who are still back slapping themselves over their hit job on Jacinta. Possibly the best of all of the conservative leaders is Matt Canavan, but he’s deliberately chosen the safe haven of the senate to avoid the obvious hit job he’d attract if he moved downstairs. Senator Antic is in the same camp, both putting job security as priority.
Basically, you need a Trump or Farage type person who isn’t afraid to take on the establishment and left wing media and until that person emerges we’re on a path to net zero prosperity, with Labor running amok, knowing they have no real opposition.
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Good analysis Serge.
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‘Hastie is the closest candidate, but he’s a political lightweight …’
He is a fresh face with charismatic qualities and political experience.
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Political lightweight? as opposed to who exactly? Heavy hitters like Albo, Bowen, Wong, Plibers? I dont see a lot to be overawed by.
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Victoria’s Premier has signed up for the Chinese belt and road partnership. China supplies the infrastructure and Victorians are on the hook for generations. The Victorian government has less debt.
I cannot imagine Chinese infrastructure being built under Victorian labour laws so that will be a challenge.
There was a preemptive cancelling of the Victorian offshore wind auction yesterday. No doubt China will get first go at that.
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Last time Victoriastan did that the Feds, Libs at the time, cancelled it because states can’t sign up to foreign treaties.
Now that Australia is a One Party State I think the current Feds will approve.
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Maybe ask the Brazilians how that’s going. They signed up to the BRI years ago, so that China could dump the US as their main soybeans supplier. When you drive through Mato Grosso (main agricultural cropping state of Brazil) it’s notable that you see grain facilities with Chinese symbols on them. But, then again, Daniel Andrews had Victorian public buildings lit up in Chinese colours, so we’re not that far behind. ( O/T ?, but couldn’t resist)
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In Victoriastan they even flew the Chinese PRC flag at Box Hill police station.
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/its-a-police-station-honouring-a-police-state-outrage-as-melbourne-cop-shop-raises-chinese-communist-flag/news-story/7d59fc8558a59eec0693c26fb9dbf31c
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If you’ve ever been to Bok Hill (not a typo, just a local pronunciation) you’ll know why they flew that flag.
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I was born in Bok Hill hospital 66 years ago…..probably a little different than it is today…………
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Labor, Greens and Teals are lying about increased deaths from extreme weather events and yet our stupid donkeys still believe their junk science.
Here’s the honest data from 1900 and deaths have plummeted since 1960 and yet we now have 5.2 billion MORE people at risk today.
Why don’t we teach our kids the truth and educate them to seek out and understand the real data?
These simple graphs and sums are very easy to understand yet our clueless pollies continue to lie to the electorate.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-disaster-death-rates?country=Wildfire~Flood~Extreme+weather~Extreme+temperature~Drought
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You’ve way more chance of forming government when you stand for something.
I’m not quite as bad as the other Wally just is never going to cut it, is it?
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I wish you luck, but this pretty darn unrealistic.
It took UKIP 23 years to achieve it’s ultimate goal and make BREXIT a reality.
It’s taken ReformUK 7 years to get to where it is today, and needs to sustain/build on that momentum for a few more years before it pays off. Plus, they had huge help from BOTH established parties failing miserably to govern. Morrison and Albanese have been bad in Australia, but not quite on the same level of comical ineptitude as Truss, Sunak and Starmer in the UK.
Expecting results in three years from a party that is still in the ether as an idea and not even on paper yet as a plan is pretty darn optimistic.
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Better get started then!
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Basically a third of voters (or a bit less) vote for Labor, another third (shrinking) vote Liberals and a third are wandering up for grabs. If a new party managed to collect that wandering third, and also take a solid conservative base off the weak Liberals, and some workers of the corrupt Labor party, that’s looking like a winner.
The big weakness with this strategy is that the media will make the third option as invisible as possible the moment it starts to steal Labor workers, or young people who can’t afford a home.
We are in an information war, and the third party needs to be ready to fight that battle.
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But the Opinion Polls (and by-election results) show Reform is leading, followed by Labour (which has lost almost a third or more than the 30% who got them into office) and the Conservatives are struggling to hold third place.
Also Labour is starting to fracture as many left wing one head off to other new parties. Labour is being Stammered.
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NetZero is the hill to die on. For Australia’s salvation, it should be the good for nothing Labour Party that comes to grief on this hill. Hopefully Andrew Hastie will take the tiller from rudderless Sussan Ley, team up with Jacinta Nampijimpa-Price and forge the opposition required to bring Albanese and his doom-dealing Labour Party to destruction on NetZero Hill.
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Andrew Hastie is our best chance to stop the renewable madness.
He comes with extraordinary credentials and highly qualified to become the next PM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Hastie
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The logic that we have limited time to act in a Global Emergency announced in 1988 makes no sense. A baby born in that year is 37 today. Where has the weather changed?
I cannot believe any politician presents this alleged crisis as real? What emergency?
Or the idea that the formerly Global Warming with rapid ocean rise and drowning cities is right after 250 years of not having a problem. Where’s Flannery’s eternal drought now?
And isn’t New York supposed to be under water for a decade or two? And the Artic ice gone? And two more generations of children have learned to ski on snow which should not be there?
Like the US, we should be dismantling all the failed schemes and taxes to date and stop Snowy II today. There was never any cost benefit analysis done when it was a tenth of the current price. How can it possibly be justified today. We taxpayers are paying those $300,000 salaries plus 6% more each year.
The tropics cannot get any hotter. And which temperature zone does not want warmer winters, warmer nights and more crops per year? Almost all people go to warmer places for holidays.
I have no idea why anyone in the Liberal party sees Global Warming as a key to election success when it is just a copy of the opposition policy. What happened to opposition?
But if the Liberal party goes all out against CO2 driven man made Global Warming, they would romp home. Tony Abbott did. Or is it all deceit, like Malcolm Turnbull who has not said a word about his $444 million gift to himself and his wife. $134 Million estimated to be just the cost of ‘administering’ the money. I would have done it for a lousy spare $100 Million. In advance.
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Or in a nutshell. Australian Opposition? What opposition?
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“Like the US, we should be dismantling all the failed schemes and taxes to date and stop Snowy II today.”
Snowy 2 tunnel, what little there is of it could be leased to grow mushrooms.
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That’s the first proposed use of perhaps the most expensive and most useless tunnels in the world. Other countries spend this sort of money on things which could make a big difference, like bringing water from the Ord River to NSW. Or building highways. Or coal power plants, like the 810 China are building.
But we have been convinced to blow up what the previous generations built. And not to build dams we need for the droughts which are regular and invitable.
So a mushroom superpower. Beats our 50% reverse hydro system for the price of a bridge to Tasmania.
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The “plan” was to pump water up when there was an excess of renewables.
Provided that there was enough water in the lower dam (droughts will be abolished by Government Decree?). Then the excess water from the high tank (after 25% was diverted to the Snowy River for environmental purposes) would flow down to the lower dam.
At $2 billion it was said that the arbitrage would only be $40/MWh to make a profit. So what will the arbitrage will be now the cost is 6 times and still rising?
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The cost is 10x. And it’s not finished. 4 tunnelling machines. And workers now on $300K pa.
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And fundamentally if half the power is wasted in losses on pumping, what is saved is half of what was expected. So do suppliers accept that they will be paid only half of normal returns? The big producers who are automatically chosen last, the coal producers, have opted to buy their own batteries and store 100% of value. Which then can sell in emergencies for 10x the normal price. It will be karma for the carbon crazies as electricity prices go through the roof.
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Here is my graph from all BOM raw data online for Darwin, expressed as 3-day heatwaves. These are defined here as the hottest average each year of the Tmax of all consecutive 3 days. If a study fails this simple definition it is hard for any alternative definition to succeed.
The graph shows every year from 1855 to 2023. I did the calcs in early 2024, needs update in Jan 2026 because 2025 was an anomalous year. I do 1-day, 5-day and 10-day graphs as well.
The graph shows, essentially, that Darwin does not have any “extreme” heatwaves. It does not have any heatwaves. It does not show any evidence of heatwaves getting hotter, so why try to forecast that future heatwaves will become a deadly threat and kill more people? No basis exists.
“Extreme” heatwaves in other Australian cities commonly happen when customary climates drive hot winds from naturally hot central and northern Australia, to the main big cities, mostly on the coast. Melbourne’s heatwaves are hotter than Sydney’s and both are hotter than Brisbane’s because of this weather hot wind movement pattern.
Darwin is a hot place because of latitude 12 deg South. It is a place to produce hot air to blow heatwaves to cooler places. Weather patterns seldom blow heatwaves hot air to Darwin. It is a hot air donor not a receiver.
Geoff S
https://www.geoffstuff.com/darheatw.jpg
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More honest facts from OWI Data and death rates from fires and burns have plummeted since 1980.
World population in 1980 just 4.4 billion and over 8 billion today and death rates in 1980 were 3.3 per 100K and only 1.5 per 100 K today.
Australia death rates in 1980 were 1.2 per 100 K and only 0.02 per 100 K today and population was only 14.8 million in 1980 and over 27 million today.
When will we start to think for ourselves and WAKE UP?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/fire-death-rates?tab=line&country=OWID_WRL~OWID_LIC~OWID_HIC~OWID_UMC~OWID_LMC~AUS
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In plain, easy to understand English, the electorate had best realise that Australia is running out of time & options. Wake up folks, your country is being subverted and you’re going to lose it forever unless we rid ourselves of the self confessed communists In Canberra.
It’s your choice so don’t whinge & whine whe it all goes “ tits up “.
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I don’t think Australians (present company excepted) realise how far behind they’ve fallen compared to properly run countries.
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4 parts intelligence in every 10,000 cluelessness…
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‘ … properly run countries.’
I nominate Canada and Estonia.
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Canadá? There’s a movement becoming stronger everyday for Alberta to become the 51st state if the US. Alberta’s governor is leading the charge. Ottawa feds are in a bit of a daze.
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‘ … self confessed communists In Canberra.’
Highly doubtful, they are all democratic socialists and will most likely be thrown out at the next election.
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One caution about gathering the like minded to form a new party.
Avoid any contact with Clive Palmer and any party linked to him. He was and still is a wrecker.
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$23 million for that fake piece of garbage that masquerades as a climate report.
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Pays better than writing Mills & Boon stories
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Logically it’s real garbage.
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Andrew Hastie . . I would for him.
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Unlike France, you would need to vote for “his party” as you vote for your local representative.
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Its a zero sum game, Hastie or Ley for the leadership of the party.
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Would it work if the National party became the ‘senior’ party, no need to go to the trouble starting another one, just attract Hastie and all like minded members to build a ‘super party’.
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I don’t see that happening, we have to win the next election with the Coalition intact, on the same platform. Global warming is not a threat to humanity.
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What, with it full of labor lites and ditherers.
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FWIW
“Fearmongering predictions about climate change keep falling apart”
https://nypost.com/2025/09/15/opinion/fearmongering-predictions-about-climate-change-keep-falling-apart/
Via https://instapundit.com/745010/#disqus_thread
And “ElBowen & Co” have just floated another in the hope that they’ve got a winner this time
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FWIW
“Backlash against Aussie $22.9m Climate Doomsday Report: “Complete Waste of Money” ”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/09/16/backlash-against-aussie-22-9m-climate-doomsday-report-complete-waste-of-money/
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It is a rather nice stake in the ground to report on year after year, and reflect on those involved and how stupid things had become in 2025.
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Dr Goklany’s report to the GWPF has the best up to data that proves that the World has improved a lot over over the last 100 years and the last 50 years.
Here’s a quick summary from Dr Goklany’s latest study in 2021.
According to the paper’s author, Dr Indur Goklany,
“Almost everywhere you look, climate change is having only small, and often benign, impacts. The impact of extreme weather events ― hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and droughts ― are, if anything, declining. Economic damages have declined as a fraction of global GDP. Death rates from such events have declined by 99% since the 1920s. Climate-related disease has collapsed. And more people die from cold than warm temperatures”
“And even sea-level rise – predicted to be the most damaging impact of global warming – seems to be much less of a problem than thought. According to Dr Goklany, reviews of historic maps and satellite imagery have shown that the places predicted to disappear are in fact still with us”.
“A recent study showed that the Earth has actually gained more land in coastal areas in the last 30 years than it has lost through sea-level rise. We now know for sure that coral atolls aren’t disappearing and even Bangladesh is gaining more land through siltation than it is losing through rising seas.”
“Empirical data also shows that food production per capita has increased by 30% since 1961 despite a more-than-doubling of the global population. Hunger and malnutrition have declined, area burnt by wild fires has declined, and since 1950 poverty has declined, people are wealthier and global life expectancy has increased from 46 years to 73 years”.
“Dr Goklany’s paper Impacts of Climate Change: Perception and Reality is published by the Global Warming Policy Foundation and can be downloaded here (pdf)”.
About the author
Indur M. Goklany is an independent scholar and author. He was a member of the US delegation that established the IPCC and helped develop its First Assessment Report. He subsequently served as a US delegate to the IPCC, and as an IPCC reviewer.
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Here’s the full PDF link of Dr Goklany’s full report for the UK’s GWPF and it has about 50 pages and plenty of coloured graphs to look at.
Like Dr Koonin he even worked for the Obama administration but he grew tired of the BS and nonsense and waste and is now a member of the Co2 Coalition Scientists team.
Check it out because you won’t be disappointed.
https://thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2021/02/Goklany-EmpiricalTrends.pdf
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there are quite a few deregistered and, even more defunct right leaning polictial parites
So why would a new party do any better
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– because some people dont have a give up mentality
– because some people arent passive doomsayers and have some initiative and vision
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Thanks Peter, surprised to see the Communist Party was deregistered 22 May 2012.
‘So why would a new party do any better.’
They would organise into a loose coalition similar to the European democratic model, with Hastie at the helm. Their platform crafted by skilled strategists, they have a good chance to vote out the democratic socialists.
Best way forward, Ley should resign.
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“A culture war needs a fighter.”
It looks like Hastie might be that fighter.
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But he needs to be paid. Like everyone else. The common feature of Trump anhd Farage is that they are indpendently very wealthy. And cannot be shut down by lawfare, as currently with Price.
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True, but Australia does not have the enshrined freedoms – as a birthright – written into our constitution. All Australians have are `privileges,’ which can, and have, been taken away.
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An oddity.
When I joined the RAAF at the Air Force College Point Cook, I was given the rank of Cadet. On graduation, I would be given “Pilot Officer”. Rank was everywhere.
What rank did Andrew Hastie reach over time? How fast your rank rises is a rough indicator of excellence. I can’t yet find the Hastie rank of progress. One site says “commander” but that is not an Army rank. Geoff S
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Ben Roberts-Smiths mother has written a 39 page report on why Hastie is unsuitable to be leader of a political party.
A little bias, I wonder.
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In the SAS he was a Captain. Same level as a Flight Lieutenant in the RAAF or Lieutenant in the Navy 🙂
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One of our sons is a Captain in the part time reserve. The move up to Major is really the entry to full time serious levels where qualities like leadership and experience and attitude start to become competitive. Geoff S
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It’s about time this reality was aired. The Liberal and National opposition parties are currently writing the longest suicide note ever. They left the base, not the reverse.
Currently the Federal Government and its acolytes, including the MSM are pushing:
Sexualization of Young Children in Schools: Radical agendas pushing inappropriate content onto young children, threatening their innocence and undermining parental rights.
WHO Pandemic Treaty: A treaty that could give the UN unprecedented power over lockdowns, vaccinations, and even worship practices, all under the guise of health protection.
Silencing and Legal Harassment Against Christian Voices: Efforts to silence Christian voices in politics, denying people the right to express their faith and values publicly. And continue to push the inefficaceous mRNA vaccines, at the same time as they flood tthe country with people from the Middle East and elsewhere to vote for them.
Frankly, Government needs to get out of citizens’ lives. Governments at all levels are not doing such a good job that citizens ought to be paying more in fees, taxes, and charges, or allow any growth at all in governments’ self-proclaimed responsibilities. Quite the contrary, their claimed responsibilities need to be curtailed, and the size of government offices at all levels, reduced. The more individuals appointed into public service bodies to undertake the same issues, the less well they are done i.e. too many cooks spoil the broth. There is clearly a connection between politicians and anything that encourages back-handers from those permitted to purchase, at fire – sale prices, publicly owned anything.
Those who stand for any election, must be disqualified and removed from office if, after being elected, push policies that are contrary to their initial platforms. And any proposed policy changes must not be implemented until after a subsequent election clarifies that those specific issues have majority support. Also, proof of identity of electors must be implemented at all elections, no matter the issue, large or small. Any impropriety must carry a prison term and forfeiture of all illegal gains to the public purse.
Any push-back by politicians on such issues merely displays likely culpability. So Andrew, it you will clean up the mess the stinking mess, you will get our support.
Regards Tony Owen
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