A “Far Left Politician” is practically invisible, and usually harmless. But a Far Right politician is dangerous.
(To the people who use namecalling to silence opponents).
— Rothmus 🏴 (@Rothmus) January 8, 2025
To be called “Far Right” implies someone is a horrible person, and you should probably hiss at them if they get too close. But on the prime time news, even bureaucrats pushing for One World Government, or slave owning dictators like President Xi are rarely introduced as “the Far Left President Xi”. That would give the game away, wouldn’t it? There would be constant reminders of the dangers of going “too far left”.
In its purest form the political right just want individual rights and smaller government, yet the “definition” of far right keeps shape-shifting to become somehow horribly authoritarian, “like Hitler”, of course, (the Socialist). Who benefits from this absurd definition? — Big Leftist collectivists, of course.
We the people cannot even have a conversation with easily recognizable words. The word fog is not an accident.
The real horrors are not the right wing people waving a national flag, and talking about individual rights, but the far left committees in Brussels or Davos that want to take your money, inject you, tell you what you can say, and take away a medicine that might save your life.
Namecalling is a powerful tool.
As a general rule of thumb, far right is anyone who is not far left or who otherwise disagrees with the far left.
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‘Far Right’ is just the shortened form of ‘Far too often Right’!
Difference between a Far Right conspiracy theory and the truth? Hmm, about two years.
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As it happens my nearest big town Exeter was an epicentre for witch trials,often accused of changing the westher. By pure coincidence Exeter is now the home of the met office
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/dark-history-exeter-first-last-1609485
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Tonyb,
Minor point. “Epicentre” is terminology specific for earthquakes. Please use “Centre”, especially in a piece about names. Geoff S
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Sorry Geoff but the word spread out from the narrow usage you attribute to it it, many years ago
noun
the point on the earth’s surface vertically above the focus of an earthquake.
the central point of something, typically a difficult or unpleasant situation:
“the epicentre of labour militancy was the capital itself
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I believe that our current BOM chief came from the University of Exeter, well known I believe for its AGW stance.
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The epicentre of AGW, no doubt!
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For those interested, James Delingpole has written an updated version of his original book (2011) “Watermelons”. The book largely centred around what JD called “climate gate”. He’s aded a couple of chapters and spruced it up a bit.
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Yes, it’s always worth reminding people what Nazi is short for in German.
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Or, as has been said, “far right, or right so far?” May have been Pauline Hanson?
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I think the key is to embrace the label, and carry it as a badge of honor.
“MAGA” is, to my lefty relatives and acquaintances, a horrid insult. I have three hats that say MAGA. I alternate between them.
“Fascist” and “racist” are similar. If you wish to label me as such for your idiotic and illiterate reasons, fine, but get out of my way.
The fact that you are running as fast as you can to the left doesn’t mean that I’m moving to the right, unless you consider yourself to be the center of the universe, in which case I don’t much care what you think of anything.
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Bobby I wanted to give you multiple green thumbs, but a visiting friend gave you one on their iPad using my Wifi, so I couldn’t, but I tried. ToM
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If you want to be an extreme right wing person these days, believe in the following:
-small government,
-individual responsibility and
-that the traditional family is the basic building block of society.
Its that easy.
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The endless conflation of National Socialist Hitler with the extreme right is typical of the deceit. The battle between Hitler and Stalin was socialist dictator against communist dictator. The destruction of all human rights and lives was common. There was no rule of law.
But the left do not compare mass murdering dictators to Stalin, because he remains a hero. Our Prime Minister Albanese follows his hero Trotsky and Greens Leader Dr Adam Bandt adores mass murdering Lenin.
And anybody who disagrees is called Extreme Right, as if they were Hitler.
Lost in all this are the Conservatives who believe in all rights,the rule of law, democracy, the Constitution.
It was our own Prime Minister who attempted last year to consign our Constitution to the rubbish bin with his Voice, a committee he would appoint which would rule over the parliament, the public service and the legal system. Call it a politburo.
We just escaped absolute Communist rule by Anthony Albanese and Adam Bandt and their attempt to extinguish our democracy legally. Just as Hitler did. And like all Fascists, they were supported by Big Business and the Public Service including their ABC/SBS and Pravda on the Yarra.
And the approved attacks on the Jews and Israel are well underway, as recognized internationally. And no one calls it out as classic Fascism. The world has seen it all before. I doubt Trump’s MAGA will have anything to do with our Fascist government.
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The battle between those two was not ideological, in my opinion. It was partly rooted in AH’s racism. He associated the Bolsheviks with being controlled by an imagined Jewish conspiracy.
Stalin was probably a sociopath, so it was plain hard Realpolitik for him.
I always refer to the Natcees as National Socialists because it accurately defines their ideology, while the former is meaningless today or a smear label.
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There is an emerging view that gambler Hitler had no real choice but to attack the Soviet Union long before he could integrate his conquests in France to Norway into the Reich. In fact his economy was entirely fake running massive deficits and running short of everything, especially food. He was about to experience a catastrophic collapse like the Weimar Republic. His fabulous manufacturing miracle was built on endless lies to the German people including annual holidays on the Baltic, a free Volkswagen car for every family, plenty of food and of course, rapid success.
But half of a devastated Poland shared with Russia was not enough. Ukraine promised unlimited food. And the Caucuses oil to power his machines of war. Plus the amazingly rapid defeat of the French and the British in just weeks made him overconfident. He also distrusted the Prussian military classes who had led Germany to defeat in WW1. And Stalin was already wiping out his own military. Hitler nearly succeeded at Borodino like Napoleon and at the gates of Moscow
And both sides, Fascists and Communists hated and envied Jewish people and the finances they controlled. All wars need bankers. Bankers even today are inordinately wealthy and influential and universally disliked, but necessary. The problem for Stalin and Hitler was that thanks to the vanished Khazarian empire which had adopted Judaism, up to 40% of people in Eastern Europe and parts of Russia were Jewish unlike Germany where it was 3%, comparable to Australia today. And Stalin had plenty of former Mongol/Muslims to deport as well, including the entire population of Crimea, the old Crimean Khanate. And most of the ‘stans were muslim, not Russian.
Plus the other view is that Hitler was just a crook who succeeded past his wildest dreams. He and his friends stole everything they could from conquered lands and rich Jews in particular. Hitler’s vision was always about how he could steal more. And Goering and Himmler and Goebbels and his Generals were all planning their very comfortable retirement. At no stage did they believe in a utopian vision. Politics was just a way to achieve personal success. Crooks and thieves, mass murdering monsters.
As Adam Bandt said to me, ‘we tell them what they want to hear and when we get power, we do what we want’. I was appalled. This is Australia today. The Green party where well meaning people are being promised a better future. It’s a lie. Hitler was a fabulist Greenie vegetarian too.
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Fabulist
noun
a person who composes or relates fables.
a liar, especially a person who invents elaborate, dishonest stories.
“a born fabulist, with an imagination unfettered by the laws of logic and probability”
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Far right also includes the belief of verifiable facts over emotion.
How many times have we commented that you can’t reason with the left. Facts will not sway them. Quizzing them over HOW their policies will operate is tantamount to heresy. And then the name calling commences.
Those to the right of Stalin will not be heard in the modern world. Well not unless you own a printing press, (see Musk).
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I dont know who said it, but its true.
” you cant reason someone out of a belief if they haven’t been reasoned into it in the first place”
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“Far right” as a slur has its origins after WW2 when Leftists didn’t want to be associated with the evils of the National Socialists. So rather than calling them of the Left, they said they were of the right
The philosopher of fascism, of which National Socialism is a derivative, was Giovanni Gentile, a Hegelian Marxist.
Leftists need to stop being in denial about the true nature of National Socialism. And we see from the Left much of the same behaviour today such as extreme environmentalism, veganism, black uniform wearing thugs of Antifa, antisemitism, violence, boycotts, “youth movements” and indoctrination of youth etc..
Fascism and its derivative National Socialism is, to be sure, a different flavour of socialism than communism and Marxism, and today’s Leftists claim not to like National Socialists but Leftists have always been at war with other factions of the Left, there’s nothing new there.
A difference between National Socialism and Fascism as compared to communism is that the former do allow some private ownership of industry, as long as industry does exactly what Government wants, which is more or less what we have now. National Socialism allows for a longer period of time to achieve state ownership of industry than communism which wants to do it overnight.
As for the Left-Right political spectrum I place pro-freedom ideologies on the Right and anti-freesom ideologies on the Left, including National Socialism and Communism. Our Liberal-Labor parties are centrist but becoming increasingly Leftist, the same with Republican-Democrats in the US before TRUMP but now he is moving the Republicans to the Right, pro-freedom side.
You might want to look at the following article. I can’t post the link because it’s a PDF and I can’t see what the link is on my phone but you can Goolag it.
SEE ARTICLE FOR REST
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Well, they haven’t started stoning, pressing,
or burning us “far right” folks, yet! Have they?
I’d rather equate CO2 as the modern witch.
Witches did unexplained things, as does CO2.
And the ClimateCult™ is trying to purge it.
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‘Back in the day’, which is the newfangled way of saying back in the old days, ‘far out’ was a way of expressing approval. If you described someone or something as far out then it was or they were cool and groovy.
There are very few political positions. You never hear far back or far forward, far up or far down, far away even.
There’s only far right really, because you don’t often hear about the far left or even just the left. People are very quiet about the left, especially far left. Which is a shame. I think people who say far right should listen to Yeonmi Park talk about the far left. About what life and death is like in the glorious communist Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.
https://m.youtube.com/hashtag/1691
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The abbreviation is FART.
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Mod?
What’d I say?
That’s perfectly accurate
FAr RightT.
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If I get another red thumb, I’m going to start casting spells.
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Sorry Honk, the challenge was too good to pass up. Just wanted to see those spells…
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Sorry typo … having not casting.
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People who work for Government and Government instrumentalities, including ABC, SBS, schools and universities do so, bye and large, because they have a deep down fundamental distrust of private ‘for profit’ enterprise and as such are, whether they would embrace it or not, socialists, ultimately falling into the ‘we know best’ camp of not trusting people to make their own decisions based on objective observation and not wanting to expose the people to true equity … people getting what they deserve, both as individuals and groups … pretending that equality of outcomes is somehow equity, which it is most definitely not.
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CONTINUED FROM ABOVE
SEE LINK FOR REST
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The ‘peoples car’ is but one.
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Yep, and we know they were hard left socialists because one of the first things they did when gaining power, was to nationalise just about every industry. Plus introduce universal health care.
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Forget Davos, it has been replaced by Mar-a-Lago!
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Great point you make TdeF about the conflation of Hitler (a socialist ie, NSDAP) and the right. A point I would also like to make is that the leaders of these far left regimes – such as Hitler – usually end up as totalitarian dictators. Let’s take Mao Zedung, Pol Pot, Putin, Castro, and so on. Governments of the far left usually look stable and solid until they collape in a shambles.Democratic governments of the right often look like a shambles but somehow survive through time and give their citizens a fair and stable society.
I’ll go for right- leaning government every time.
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BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:
Green Tyranny: Exposing the Totalitarian Roots of the Climate Industrial Complex
Rupert Darwall
The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left
Dinesh D’Souza
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I’m a Conservative and I believe in the Family front and centre, upholding the law, freedom, small government, the free enterprise system and most importantly I believe in logic and reason.
Obviously I could never ever vote for Labor, Greens or the Teals or any other far left groups who seem to hate science.
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Never forget: The National Socialist Workers Party’ was a party of the left, NOT of the right as almost everyone assumes. The ALP was affiliated with it for a time in the early 1930’s
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Liberal Party Beliefs:
In the inalienable rights and freedoms of all peoples; and we work towards a lean government that minimises interference in our daily lives; and maximises individual and private sector initiative.
In government that nurtures and encourages its citizens through incentive, rather than putting limits on people through the punishing disincentives of burdensome taxes and the stifling structures of Labor’s corporate state and bureaucratic red tape.
In those most basic freedoms of parliamentary democracy – the freedom of thought, worship, speech and association.
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Where does one find a Liberal Party politician that practices and promotes these supposed beliefs?
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My definition of Left is someone who thinks superficial caring is better than nothing, hence, everybody who doesn’t agree is uncaring and far right.
The Right are people who think that if it’s superficial, just forget about it and use the time to look after yourself.
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I wonder what they’ll call 22 year old Grace Stanke who is a Nuclear engineer and the 2023 Miss America.
Dick Smith and 18 year old Will Shackel will be touring with her around Australia and the clueless “3 eyes Allan” dummy in Victoria will not be pleased.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/politics/government/us-beauty-queen-and-new-face-of-nuclear-energy-campaigns-to-sway-public-opinion-in-australia/ar-AA1xgkUL?ocid=BingNewsVerp
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From the article, Ms Stanke is working on the project to reopen Three Mile Island for Microsoft. Seems to know her stuff.
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The control of language is a powerful tool. Witness what is happening in the UK right now with “ grooming gangs”. And some journalists and politicians fighting back using “rape gangs” as the description of what went on. Possibly still going on.
The left use control of language to manipulate the emotional responses of the proletariat. We aren’t allowed strong responses against behaviour of some Pakistani men because all of them would be Muslims. And the left, who see people as acting as members of groups and not individuals, see that as criticising the religion of Islam and by extension, prophet Mohammad.
Calling the gangs “grooming gangs” elicits a more “civilised” emotional response. And it enables the behaviour to be ignored more easily. Somehow we are asked to believe that grooming is ALL that occurred.
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THE ESSENTIAL POLITICAL SPECTRUM
LEFT
Rights-violating ideologies and systems.
Extreme force.
Examples: Communism, Fascism, National Socialism, fundamentalist theocracies.
CENTRE
Rights-violating ideologies and systems.
Intermediate levels of force.
Examples: Liberalism (US sense), “progressivism”, Liberal Party (Australia), Labor Party (Australia), Republicans (US), Democrats (US).
RIGHT
Rights-respecing ideologies and systems.
No or minimal force.
Examples: Free market capitalism, classical Liberalism (European sense), US Constitutional Republicanism (if true to Constitution), conservatism (some forms).
(Based on ideas from The Objective Stabdard but modified by me.)
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I hate the analogy. Christian teaching in Medieval Europe was that it was heretical to accuse someone of being a witch, and the punishment was a strict talking to rather than being burnt at the stake.
The Basque Witches highlight what was happening. Twelve people were accused of heresy by the secular government and three Inquisitors were sent to investigate. They cleared the accused because witnesses claimed they saw the accused do magical stuff. Too late for seven who had died before being cleared.
It would have been a better analogy if the Inquisitors were sacked.
Persecution of people for witches still occurred despite the teachings and Protestant churches accepted the existence of witches. Still, only reliable evidence of hundreds. Evidence of thousands comes from poor sources (witch hunters bragging in Scotland but zero supporting evidence) and tens of thousands from academics extrapolating to areas with no historical evidence surviving. Most will believe millions from academics in the 50s who just made it up with zero evidence, ironically.
I’ll add that I’ve read sceptics use the analogy of how people believed that witches caused bad weather and were executed for causing storms in the middle ages. I found the source of that. A bishop in recently converted Anglo-Saxon Britain complained about his flock still clinging to pagan beliefs.
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Since when did name-calling become a powerful force. Duped by a woke government education system?
Sticks and stones might break my bones,
But name-calling should never hurt me.
Pffft.
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Being called Far Right implies that the caller is Far Left, and open to be asked which Far Left are You?
Just ask them which Far Left are they? Pol Pot? Mao Tsetung? Stalin? Hitler?
The last will baffle them as they won’t know that Stalin labelled Hitler after he invaded Russia.
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Last time I looked, the terms “left” and right” originated in France, (of course), during one of the several bouts of “revolutionary fervour” that arose tin the 18th and 19th century.
The origin was the side of the buig table around which the enthusiasts sat, and the subtle difference between their actual intentions.
“Kill the “oppressors” anfd then “redistribute” all their stuff”, or
“Arrest the “oppressors, steal and redistribute their stuff, then run them through a sow-trial before executing them.
Basically interchangeable blobs, separated by the wonderful semantic gymnastics of the “dialectic”.
Thus:
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. – H. L. Mencken.
Some quotable notables for example:
We (UN-IPCC) redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy…””One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore…” – Dr Ottmar Endenhofer-, IPCC co-chair of Working Group 3, November 13, 2010
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”A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Ted Turner, Founder of CNN and major UN donor
”Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” – Sir John Houghton, First chairman of the IPCC
”It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” – Paul Watson, Co-founder of Greenpeace
”We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” – Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation
”No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” – Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment
“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” – Emeritus Professor Daniel Botkin
”Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” – Maurice Strong, Founder of the UN Environmental Program
”Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” – Professor Maurice King.
”I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. it played an important part in balancing ecosystems.” – John Davis, Editor of Earth First! Journal.
“Interesting times” are afoot.
There are MANY more of these evil people out there.
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I took the test myself and found my results very enlightening.
“Our website provides interested individuals with a non-partisan, anonymous and confidential online quiz that maps your political ideology based on a two-axis grid of economic freedom and personal freedom”.
“We at Map My Politics developed our quiz with the sole intent of helping people to better understand their own political opinions and ideologies”.
https://www.mapmypolitics.org/
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These things are stupid. You can think Muslim immigration is bad and still be left wing because you disagree with a capitalist free for all. FFS Using the Liberal Party (as liberal laws regarding trade and business) policies to answer the questions and you would be e labelled left-wing.
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Did you try it? I found it quite different to other tests. Especially regarding the results.
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Talking of far-out witches who left (via an online encyclopaedia of similar ill-repute):
‘In December 2020, PM Jacinda Ardern declared a climate change emergency and pledged that the New Zealand Government would be carbon neutral by 2025’. Hey, that’s now!
In 2024 she suddenly quit/resigned – her internationalist speech-writer penning the infamous words she had ‘no gas left in the tank’, which was not surprising as she’d shut them all down – and fled to Joe Biden’s USSA. Having accepted a royal honorific, she then took a job with soon-to-be king, Willy, to ‘save’ the entire planet from its polluting people.
Some fairytales really are quite nightmarish.
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The forces which cause the big lumps to float to the top of a septic tank are well understood.
Those which cause the big lumps to float to the top of a political tank less so.
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Once you understand the true meaning of “Left” and “Right”, you’ll understand that being called “Far Right” is a compliment and the polar opposite of being a National Socialist of which the Communist Left are on the same side of the political spectrum.
Being of the Left is a deeply shameful condition but one which few will ever understand or revert from.
Dr Thomas Sowell is a rare example of someone who escaped from Leftist ideology and became a Rightist. Incidentally, he was a student of the Libertarian “far right” Professor Milton Friedman. At no time did Friedman ever try to “convert” him. Sowell came up with his own conclusions.
Leftists hate Sowell because of their racism. They don’t believe Sowell as a black person should be allowed to be of the Right.
The Left especially hate all black conservatives and Rightists. Look how they treated Larry Elder, for example, Republican candidate for California Governor. They called him “the black face of white supremacy”…WTF? (Reference below.)
Rightists don’t force their beliefs upon others, unlike the Left for whom censorship is one of their basic essential weapons in their war against Western Civilisation and humanity in general.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-candidate-larry-elder-is-a-threat-to-black-californians
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Last night Andrew Bolt exposed the vile loonies of the left like this idiot who is helped by the Vic Trades Hall Council.
He talks about shooting people in the back of the head that was carried out recently in New York.
This loony is standing for the Vic Socialists party and I’m sure Labor and Greens will readily accept his preferences at the next election.
Why are the left able to get away with their hate speeches and little wonder they hate Jews and join in the support of Hamas etc and terrorism.
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/andrew-bolt/weve-fallen-so-far-andrew-bolt-slams-victorian-socialists-senate-candidate-choice/video/8b9e30a351bf53a364c730f252f175cc
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When anybody refers to me as ‘far right’ it is a compliment – it really signifies being main stream. The term identifies a person as someone who repects truth, free speech, facts, has an independent mind and a real belief in what a free enterprise liberal democracy should be.
Proud to be far right!
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We really have to stop claiming victory when we are “Getting hit in the face less often.”
It’s a victory when WE start hitting THEM in the face.
– Getting them to reduce the amount of tax increase is not a victory. They’re still increasing taxes.
– Getting them to cut the amount of taxes is a symbolic victory only. They’re still spending AND increasing the deficit.
– Getting them to cut the amount of Government spending is an actual victory.
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Indeed. It’s a bit like Nineteen Eighty Four.
Rightists have to stop thinking that it is a victory when the Left get away with merely imposing slightly less badness. The overall badness is still increasing.
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The left-right thing is an example of one-dimensional thinking.
The fight between good and evil is far more complex.
Call me anything. Just don’t call me late for dinner.
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Not Green = right
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I wonder what percentage of the middle aged are far right?
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Albo-Tross has a real dilemma! Both of his Australian Government Representatives attending Donald Trumps inauguration and Ascension to POTUS #47 namely K Rudd and P Wong have both been cited for making inappropriate comments about Trump. How they have the gall to offer/accept these very important tasks beats me! There is every likelihood that Donald T will see it as a sleight and who could blame him?
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After spending 8 years hearing the not so sweet tones of the GI (that Gunnery Instructor) teaching me to march by calling out the cadence “Left Right left Right” it’s no wonder my politics are screwed up
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Albo-Tross is about to experience a Trump-tsunami so I hope he can do more than doggie paddle!
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Far Left as in far-left Socialists like Adolph Hitler with his far-left identity politics.
Identity politics the core foundation platform of far-left in Australia, Nationalists at election time, socialists all the time.
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To be quite honest I’ve never really seen much difference between the communists and socialists. It’s all a bit blurry. Communists like communes? IDK. They’e all just loonie lefties as far as I’m concerned. Loved how once the extreme left of the Australian Labor Party were always referred to as the “loony left”. Now those loons tend to reside in the Greens. Not sure how to classify the Teals yet. They appear to be disaffected wealthy LNP voters who believe in AGW- so basically, just useful idiots.
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