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      CO2 Lover

      On the subject of Small Modular Nuclear Reactors

      Surely the USA already has a lead here?

      Currently, the U.S. has 83 nuclear-powered ships: 72 submarines, 10 aircraft carriers and one research vessel. These NPWs make up about forty percent of major U.S. naval combatants, and they visit over 150 ports in over 50 countries, including approximately 70 ports in the U.S. and three in Japan.

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        CO2 Lover

        Meanwhile in Rusia

        Russia built has a floating nuclear power plant for its far eastern territories. The design has two 35 MWe units based on the KLT-40 reactor used in icebreakers (with refueling every four years)

        The Rosatom project is the first floating nuclear power plant intended for mass production. The initial plan was to manufacture at least seven of the vessels by 2015. On 14 September 2019, Russia’s first-floating nuclear power plant, Akademik Lomonosov, arrived to its permanent location in the Chukotka region. It started operation on 19 December 2019

        7 June 2024
        Rosatom, together with partners from the Republic of Guinea, study the possibility of deploying floating power units in the country

        https://fnpp.info/

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      John Hultquist

      Reliable and properly priced will be a long-term national project. Alternatives (wind, solar) are not acceptable. Not much, other than stopping the waste and starting on a new path can be accomplished in four years.

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        Blackout Bowen, please take note. Mr Dutton, also please note. It is also a vote winner.

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        Graeme No.3

        As Germany and the UK is finding out.
        Germany is heading into a depression with a lot of industrial firms either shutting down or going overseas, followed by increasing unemployment. And on top of that they are allowing hordes of refugees into the country, causing massive unemployment subsidies. The follow-on effect on the EU economy will be severe and the EU might disintegrated.

        The UK is in a depression and headed further down, due to the lunatic policies over the last 15 years. Starmer is out of his depth and “helped” by complete morons who believe that now is their chance to change the country. They (and the general public) will soon see the disaster they cause, but not until a major collapse.

        Much the same could be said about Australia. We are running out of luck with our continuing lack of sensible politicians as the standard keeps falling, and the country goes down with them.

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          Steve of Cornubia

          “Starmer is out of his depth …”

          It certainly looks that way, but I believe there is another reason for his u turns and apparent dithering. He is a closet far-left extremist masquerading as a centre-left leader. It is his attempts to hide his real persona and agenda that is getting him into strife, but that charade will end soon as he starts to find his feet and feel more secure, then his real colours will be revealed, and more people will come to realise who they REALLY elected.

          Think his response to the anti-immigration riots was over the top? Well, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

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            Ted1.

            Steve, is this any different to any member of the Albanese government?

            The first question now is how much more damage can they do between now and the election?

            They did set their program back a long way by squandering resources, incuding time, on The Voice campaign.

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          tonyb

          The UK is not in a depression. It has modest growth. It is unlikely to surge until energy prices are reduced.

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      David Maddison

      Australian households pay on average US$0.27 per kwh vs US$0.16 for the US.

      Even so, it is still an election issue in the US. How much more so should it be for Australia?

      In Australia our technologically and scientifically illiterate and innumerate politicians are committed to even more expensive electricity as they are fanatically committed to the UN and WEF goals of Net Zero via more wind, solar and Big Battery plantations. And it is an undeniable fact thst the more wind, solar and Big Battery plantations you have, the more expensive electricity becomes.

      In the US I think the subsidies are harvested via tax credits. In Australia, subsidies are harvested directly from the consumer electricity bill plus rapid approvals for any project claiming to be “green” and over-riding of environmental concerns.

      The “opposition” party here, the fake conservative Liberal Party faction of the Uniparty claim to want to build nuclear power stations, but even if they were elected, it would take no less than ten years from the time they were elected but more likely never because there will be massive opposition from the Left embedded in a variety of areas such as feral unions, planning approval bodies, state governments etc.. By then, Australia won’t have much of an economy left. It will be Second World status.

      Source for prices: https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/

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        David Maddison

        And don’t forget, the fake conservative Liberals have already banned nuclear power in Australia twice.

        1) In 1971 McMahon stopped the Jervis Bay reactor, already under construction.

        2) Howard outlawed nuclear power by law in 1998.

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          James Murphy

          Yes, it was the Howard government that banned nuclear power, but I still think a bit of context is necessary. Banning nuclear power was a condition of Greens support, who would have blocked the new Lucas Heights reactor, depriving many of life-saving labelled medicines.

          Of course one an argue that anything could be negotiated, but the fact remains, the Greens yet again demonstrated their aggressive prioritisation of ideology over the welfare of the people.

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            Geoff Sherrington

            James,
            There is a pressing need to review the reversal of poor policies and to reverse them when it is evident that continuing will do more harm than good.
            I feel most uneasy about being bound forever by a political deal that is no longer a benefit to the national interest.
            Geoff S

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        CO2 Lover

        US Electricity Prices by State

        Texas at US$0.114 is much cheaper than Califoria at US$0.199

        Louisiana is the cheapest at US $0.094

        Hawaii the most expensive at US$32.7

        Hawaii has historically depended on imported oil for most of its energy needs for many reasons. Unlike mainland states, Hawaii does not have access to fuel sources such large rivers to produce hydropower. The islands do not have indigenous oil, natural gas or coal resources. Such fuels need to be imported.

        https://www.electricchoice.com/electricity-prices-by-state/

        Note: The new Kurri Kurri generator in NSW will be running on diesel instead of “Green Hydrogen”!

        The gas-fired power station will have a capacity of up to 750 megawatts, with 660 megawatts
        supplied to the grid initially.

        The government committed a further $700 million during the election campaign to allow the
        plant to eventually run on a blend of green hydrogen and gas

        https://climateenergyfinance.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/First-look-at-Australias-newest-gas-fired-power-plant-at-Kurri-Kurri.pdf

        The bad news is that H2 combustion can produce dangerously high levels of nitrogen oxide (NOx). Two European studies have found that burning hydrogen-enriched natural gas in an industrial setting can lead to NOx emissions up to six times that of methane (the most common element in natural gas mixes).[17],[18] There are numerous other studies in the scientific literature about the difficulties of controlling NOx emissions from H2 combustion in various industrial applications.[19],[20]

        https://www.cleanegroup.org/hydrogen-hype-in-the-air/

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          David Maddison

          Note: The new Kurri Kurri generator in NSW will be running on diesel instead of “Green Hydrogen”!

          I expect it will be running on diesel indefinitely.

          If Australia is to keep the lights on, more and more baseload will be generated by diesel.

          Diesel is one of the most expensive ways to produce electricity. It may even be more expensive than wind and solar.

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            el+gordo

            A clash of cultures is about to gain centre stage at the election.

            ‘New doubts have been cast over the Hunter Gas Pipeline project after the Federal Court ruled the Native Title Tribunal should have considered climate change before issuing approval for Santos’s Narrabri Gas Project.’ (Newcastle Herald)

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          John B

          And, I thought Hawaii, with all that FREE wind and sunshine, would be the cheapest.

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        CO2 Lover

        Read this and weep!

        US$0.075 per kwh vs US$0.27 in Australia!

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/1373587/household-electricity-price-china/#:

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          David Maddison

          Yes. That’s the price you get when you are exempt from CO2 emissions limits and want to progress your country. It’s the price Australia used to have back in the day.

          And China is building two coal power stations per week. They have a service life of 50-70 years or even more. Unlike the Stupid Country, Australia, they will not be tearing them down.

          They already have more than twice the CO2 emissions of the next biggest emitter, the US and it is rapidly rising.

          Remind me again why we are destroying our economy with wind, solar and Big Battery plantations?

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    CO2 Lover

    “Climate Change” and the Sinking of the Titanic

    RMS Titanic sank on 15 April 1912 in the North Atlantic Ocean. The largest ocean liner in service at the time, Titanic was four days into her maiden voyage from Southampton to New York City, with an estimated 2,224 people on board when she struck an iceberg at 23:40 (ship’s time) on 14 April.

    Tony Heller has some interesting insights

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb0FvmUjty4

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      David Maddison

      Very good.

      Australia also had heat waves in 1910 and 1911.

      I wonder if our BoM has written them out of history as the IPCC has done? We already know they alter historic data via the scientifically invalid and non-reproducible process (since it is undocumented and therefore not scientific by definition) of “homogenisation”.

      https://knowledge.aidr.org.au/resources/health-national-heatwave-1911/

      https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5234179

      https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/239184716

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        Simon

        BoM’s methodology and data is available here: http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/data/acorn-sat/#tabs=ACORN%E2%80%90SAT
        It’s not their fault if you don’t have the skills to replicate it. The raw data goes into all of the other temperature series that are virtually identical in the modern era.
        See if you can find a winter day warmer than yesterday.

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          David Maddison

          When was the last time 143 (or similar number) people died in a heatwave as happened in Australia 1910-11?

          https://knowledge.aidr.org.au/resources/health-national-heatwave-1911/

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          CO2 Lover

          There is a current Senate Inquiry into how the CPI is calculated (“rigged”) by the ABS since the “official” number is not believed by much of the population in a “cost of living crisis” where the price of a Big Mac has risen at twice the “official” inflation rate.

          Same should happen to the BOM which has a similar credibility issue.

          A Public Serpent’s highest priority is to please his, her, its, they or them’s political masters.

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          Vladimir

          You mean every winter day from 12 September 1854 ?

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          Forrest Gardener

          The question Simon is what will yesterday’s temperature be after it is homogenized again and again in future years.

          The problem is that the BOM methods eventually get down to secret methods. It’s a bit like KFC’s secret herbs and spices.

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            David Maddison

            I disagree with the KFC analogy, Forrest.

            At least the KFC recipe is written down and it’s consistent and subject to strict quality control.

            There is no known procedure or methodology for BoM’s “homogenisation”. They make it up as they go. It would be a commercial disaster if KFC tried that…

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              Steve of Cornubia

              That’s because in climate science, the methodology doesn’t determine the answer but the other way around – start with the answer then design a methodology to support it. Needless to say, this demands that the methodology must be constantly ‘refined’.

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              Graeme4

              The BOM was asked about this process when the investigation committee were checking the temperature recording processes. It was interesting that apparently no single BOM staff member could supply the details of this process – the committee had to ask several staff. To me that indicates that the process is not documented but involves a lot of human subjective processes. One of the committee’s outcomes was a request that the BOM release full details of the process to the public. This has never been done.

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          Ian Hill

          It’s not their fault if you don’t have the skills to replicate it.

          Not true. In 2013 Jo’s audit team, of which I was part, spent the entire year working on nothing more than a spreadsheet based program to replicate the BOM’s daily maximum temperatures published for each state, territory and the country as a whole. The motivation for this was to validate a claim that, from memory January 8th 2013 was the hottest day on record, passing the previous record in December 1972 I think it was. Several members of the team contributed to this work.

          I also set about validating the 1972 daily figure to see if the 2013 claim was valid. That itself was a challenge, having to make wild assumptions about areas where stations did not exist in 1972, but was able to see that the 1972 figure was lower than the 2013 one. It was absurd to calculate daily figures going way back in time with even fewer stations/post offices etc.

          I have not heard whether the 2013 figure has been broken.

          Note that Simon’s link leads to a report published in 2018.

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            Simon

            I think you have just proved my point. Why and how would you use a spreadsheet when BoM has made the source code publicly available? Your concerns about the limited number of early stations is minor once you have developed the station cross-correlation matrices. All it means is the uncertainty bands will be higher.

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              Ian Hill

              Huh? This was five years before 2018! The idea was to start from scratch (as amateurs, say like a senior high school project) and build an independent model using common sense and logic. The team pitched in to help. Ed made what you’d call an “app” today to calculate distances and angles from different points of latitude and longitude. Helpful comments and suggestions came for everyone. Jo provided the forum for us.

              I am not a professional programmer but I’m reasonably skilled at Excel building macro-driven programs to do all the grunt work. The method was to create a map of Australia using the cells of the Excel 2007 spreadsheet and for each “square degree” of latitude and longitude across the country, split that into nine sub-cells (not quite rectangular) and estimate a temperature for each. Cells containing one or more weather observation stations (eg in capital cities) did not need estimating, but rather averaging. Various means of estimating were created, the majority using what I called “triangulation” where the temperature of the central point of each of the nine sub-cells used the maximum temperature readings from the three stations nearest that point which formed a triangle around it. Trigonometry was used to work out the temperature. I’m going from memory but temperatures had to be calculated for about 6000 sub-cells. Many coastal places could not use triangulation of course and a cruder “linear” method was devised. For square degrees containing the coast many water-only sub-cells were excluded. Fine tuning needed to be done for irregular state borders such as NSW-Victoria and NSW-Qld.

              Then came the need to calculate the mean maximum temperature for each state and the NT (ACT was included in NSW). Geoff S pointed out the need to adjust for diverging longitudes going north and that was done by removing some sub-cells from the final calculations, the rate of removal changing with latitude.

              The end result was that we were able to reproduce much the same, but not identical, mean daily maximum temperatures for each state and Australia as the BOM did and it was used to calculate these for entire years. The main problem in feeding in all the daily observations was that on any given day there were invariably dozens of missing observations across the country, more so on weekends and therefore any contributing station missing a day had to have an estimate made for it first, resulting in more remote stations having to be drawn in. It is easy to see why stations a thousand or more kms away get drawn into contributing to a distant sub-cell.

              I remember during an idle moment using triangulation to calculate an estimate for Alice Springs using readings taken in Perth, Darwin and Melbourne, and then progressively converging on the Alice with closer stations. Accuracy improved of course but it proved that any temperature calculation could do and who would know otherwise?

              I hope I have answered your question about the “how” Simon.

              We were looking at how to use the program for calculating timely daily mean maximums for the states and Australia but it became impractical to do so with our limited resources.

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          John Connor II

          Simon’s back!
          And here come the rebuttals:
          https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_sj3788dChU1z23obp.mp4

          😆

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          Andrew McRae

          There were still concerns in May last year about whether digital platinum probes recorded the same temperatures as old mercury-glass thermometers. https://joannenova.com.au/2023/05/why-is-temperature-data-a-national-secret-bom-still-hiding-data/

          I’ve tried clicking a few of those methods papers on the BOM site and none have been published in the last year. It looks like that issue is still unresolved.

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          Bronco

          So how do we know the BoM data is truly reliable. If you go to http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/extreme/records.shtml The highest ever temperature recorded in Australia is 50.7 c on 13 January 2022 at Onslow Airport in WA.
          Yet, if we go to the Australian Bureau of Statistics Year Book of Australia 1995,
          Bourke, New South Wales, 52.8°C 17/1/1877
          Cloncurry, Queensland, 53.1°C 16/1/1889.
          Mildura, Victoria, 50.8 °C 6/1/1906
          Source: Bureau of Meteorology.

          And there is your problem. These are the BoM’s own temperatures, but their own data makes a lie of their highest temperature figures. So the BoM became very adept at “loosing” data that doesn’t suit their narrative. So, if you want to cite a reliable and honest source, BoM doesn’t cut it.

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            Ian George

            The Onslow temp only equals the 50.7C at Oodnadatta on Jan 1, 1960. It’s interesting that Onslow recorded this temp as it is on the coast while Marble Bar, inland of Onslow, didn’t even reach 49C.

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      el+gordo

      Something significant happened, like extra water vapour in the stratosphere.

      ‘The United Kingdom heatwave of 1911 was a particularly severe heatwave and associated drought. Records were set around the country for temperature in England, including the highest accepted temperature, at the time, of 36.7 °C (98.1 °F), only broken 79 years later in the 1990 heatwave, which reached 37.1 °C (98.8 °F).’ (wiki)

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    tonyb

    Is green hydrogen much worse (in the eyes of climate catastrophists) than the other greenhouse gas it is trying to supplant?

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/08/30/shock-new-claim-green-hydrogen-produces-37-times-more-global-warming-than-carbon-dioxide/

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      CO2 Lover

      Going down like a Lead Zepplin! Not a Whole lotta Love here!

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        Ian Hill

        It’s interesting that Led Zeppelin’s name was going to be Lead Zeppelin (first coined by The Who’s drummer I believe) until someone pointed out the dual pronunciation of lead (as in leed). Therefore the unambiguous Led it became.

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      tonyb

      This goes with my above link on hydrogen. New study shows CO2 has a much shorter residence time than claimed.

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/08/30/new-study-co2s-atmospheric-residence-time-4-yearsnatural-sources-drive-co2-concentration-changes/

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        TdeF

        And total CO2 shows no effects at all from human activity.

        At least 36 papers since 1958 have come up with a residence time of about 10 years. This new paper argues that 80% of CO2 ’emissions’ are not from fossil fuel anyway.

        I would add there is also a vast difference between CO2 in the high atmosphere and CO2 just output by fossil fuels. The residence time is for all CO2. But fossil fuel CO2 are emitted near to sea level and therefore more likely to be absorbed, CO2 being heavier than air (C+O2). We saw very rapid absorption with the 2019 bushfires in Eastern Australia and the sudden vast blooming of phytoplankton in the South Pacific. The CSIRO of course blamed this on iron in the smoke as a ‘fertilizer’, not CO2. Even NASA calls CO2 a ‘fertilizer’ when in fact all living things are made from CO2 alone, if you ignore universal water

        But the idea that fossil fuel CO2 alone hangs around for thousands of years has to do with an invention, splitting the ocean into a ‘surface ocean’ and a ‘deep ocean’. This idea is pushed everywhere in famous diagrams by NASA for example. The BERN model. It was proven wrong in 1958 and after the atom bomb blasts double C14 since but persists. In this the tiny atmosphere and a tiny ‘surface’ ocean are full of fossil fuel CO2 which takes ‘thousands of years’ to enter the deep ocean. In this way Climate Change pusher NASA agrees CO2 goes straight into the ocean but is stuck in the air, a thing called the Biosphere.

        This is typical NASA graph.

        Oddly some atmosphere physicists like William Happer accept it. He and his CO2 Coalition argue that more CO2 is very good for life and the tiny CO2 greenhouse effect is fully saturated anyway. I believe they are tactically wrong to accept such nonsense from NASA, presumably to get onto their own story of saturation.

        CO2 like all dissolved gases is in equilibrium with the oceans and only 3.0% of atmospheric CO2 is currently from fossil fuels. It was 2.03% in 1958. Across the planet total CO2 is a constant of vapour pressure with a tiny 1% variation, regardless of human ’emissions’ which are mostly at the latitude of China.

        I have never read an explanation of this top and bottom ocean invention. Like most ideas supporting CO2 driven Global Warming, it is just presented as unquestioned fact.

        Perhaps the most significant fact totally omitted is that highly variable water vapour at 1% to 4% is the third biggest gas in the air and vastly more powerful than CO2 as a greenhouse gas.

        You would think there had to be proof a small and very slow linear increase in tiny CO2 was significant for world temperatures, but I have never read one. It’s all science by edict.

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      TdeF

      Great. Funny. And I am amazed on Quora where people counter facts with stories of misinformation and disinformation. But have no problem with 51 top CIA/FBI people signing a letter saying the Hunter Biden laptop did not exist. When the FBI had it all along. And Trump is convicted for trying to influence the last election?

      Now that the Hunter laptop held by the FBI is an admitted fact in court,not a single person has recanted or apologised. And their opinion is that Joe Biden cannot be prosecuted because he is senile. After being ‘sharp as a tack’ until his debate.

      Compared to this blatant lying by the most senior Washington operatives, man made CO2 driven rapid tipping point Global Warming is trivial. And very profitable.

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        TdeF

        And I am perpetually accused of lying for profit, paid by Big Oil. I wish. The fossil fuel industry sells as much as they want, mainly to communist countries for whom Climate Change does not exist. Their usual tactic is to restrict production to force up prices. Why would they pay anyone?

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    tonyb

    Yet another good quality Report-this time by an OZ researcher that calculates the dire effects of the Covid jab in Europe

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/08/30/study-shows-european-excess-mortality-correlates-with-covid-19-vaccines/

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      KP

      “New York: Fatman Scoop, who topped charts in Europe with “Be Faithful” two decades ago and later contributed to hits by other artists, died after collapsing on stage at a show on Friday in Connecticut, according to officials and his family. He was 53. The cause of his death wasn’t immediately clear.”

      Happens all the time, just more all the time these days..

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    CO2 Lover

    The sad truth I learned about Australia after your immigration chief threatened my visa, says CANDACE OWENS… and why you should all be embarrassed – even if you don’t like me
    American political commentator could have visa refused
    If denied, she said it would be a ‘stain’ on Australia’s reputation

    “Far-right” political commentator Candace Owens has revealed her shock at a stark difference between Australia and America after learning she may be denied entry here.
    Owens is planning to shows in Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide in November.
    Having found fame during the Trump presidency, Owens has drawn outrage for her controversial comments on Israel, the Holocaust and LGBTQI issues.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13791199/Candace-Owens-Australia-tour-visa.html

    Hamas terrorists and their supporters are granted “Tourist Visas” but a “far-right” woman of colour might be rejected!

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      Skepticynic

      I was surprised to see the Jewish lobby in Australia are more afraid of free speech during the brief visit of one woman who is NOT antisemitic, than they are of importing thousands of actual antisemites from an avowed anti-Jewish terrorist organisation.

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      Penguinite

      Basically true but “far right” is OTT!

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        ‘Far right’, nowadays, is anyone to the right of Sir Starmer, or your wonderful ‘Albo’, or indeed Joe Biden.
        That covers a lot of ground – but it’s a term of abuse, and mis-direction, when used by, say, Kamala H.

        Auto

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        Same with the term “Far North QLD”. Where is the “Far West QLD” and “Far South QLD”? The “Far East QLD” is in the Ocean I guess.

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    Ireneusz Palmowski

    SOI values for 31 Aug, 2024
    Average SOI for last 30 days 6.75
    Average SOI for last 90 days -1.30
    Daily contribution to SOI calculation 22.03
    The atmosphere interacts with the ocean. SOI is rising rapidly. These are conditions toward La Niña, which will strengthen in September.
    https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/ocean/nino3.png

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    CO2 Lover

    Chrissy Bowen’s Seat of McMahon at risk from Muslim Votes Matter (MVM)!

    ‘Stop assuming’: Muslim Votes Matter’s election warning to Labor ahead of national launch
    The face of a prominent Muslim community group has warned there could be change at the next elections, as voters say they are increasingly fed up with the major parties.

    Ahead of the national campaign launch of Muslim Votes Matter (MVM) on Sunday in Melbourne’s northern suburb of Broadmeadow, it’s national representative Ghaith Krayem said communities were feeling “disillusioned”, and “disenfranchised” with the major parties over its handling of the conflict in Gaza.

    Sunday’s event will share leanings from the UK election in July where five independent pro-Palestine candidates won seats held by UK Labour Party members, and a segment on the potential of a hung parliament.

    https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/stop-assuming-muslim-votes-matters-election-warning-to-labor-ahead-of-national-launch/news-story/d3ba522136dd263e7aa214eaa7b6c517

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    David Maddison

    TdeF above mentioned Quora.

    Why is Quora so Left wing?

    Like most similar social-type media Quora has been taken over by forum contributors from the Left. It is also a profit-making corporation owned by Silicon Valley billionaires who are almost always of the Left.

    It is useless for political issues or political-science issues but has some useful and interesting comments on other matters. (E.g. you won’t find a favourable comment about Trump or a critical word about the anthropogenic global warming fraud.)

    https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Quorans-so-left-wing/answers/12580097

    Why are Quorans so left-wing?

    Anonymous

    9y

    Originally Answered: Why are Quorans so left-wing? (changed to be a less troll like question)

    Quora attracts those who went to university and have been radicalized there by the left wing.

    These Quorans tend to have everything handed to them including their education, all paid for by the taxes of those who are out there actually working. So they get brainwashed and sit around watching Oprah and learning words like “you’re homophobic” and “you’re a racist” and “you’re against women’s rights”

    These are the only arguments the lefties teach their students and actually they work quite well for them, lefties don’t have to rely on intellect, critical thinking, logic or reason, they just shame you publicly into shutting up by saying “oh your just a gay basher”, hey presto! argument over.

    To keep the left wing scam going after they leave university they are offered grants by the left wing government to falsify data in their chosen profession to support a liberal gay, global warming agenda.

    Under no circumstances are these graduates to question or critique liberal left wing fascism otherwise their grants are pulled and they have to get a real honest job like the rest of us hard working folk.

    That’s why.

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      Mike Jonas

      I regularly answer climate and energy questions on Quora. I get a lot of challenges, which I address wherever possible with data. Quora seems to be well run. Maybe the perceived left bias is from the universities whose people tend to use Quora rather than from Quora itself??

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    David Maddison

    There is a new Bugatti, the Tourbillon.

    It has an 8.3 litre V16 engine with a hybrid electric power train producing 1,800hp and 2,300Nm.

    It can reach 62mph in less than 2 seconds, and it has a top speed of 277mph. The engine red lines at 9,500rpm…

    Cost in Europe is €3,800,000 but I guess it will be massively more in Australia due to the huge fuel economy tax.

    https://youtu.be/xsgl5x4WHyk

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    Skepticynic

    Internet’s left-leaning bias to go on ‘juiced up steroid binge’ with advanced Al systems to transform our information gathering

    A recent study conducted by David Rozado, an Al researcher affiliated with Otago Polytechnic and Heterodox Academy, offers a troubling analysis that should alarm citizens, particularly in places like Australia.

    Why? In short, the ramifications of biased technology could be profound.

    Mr Rozado examined 24 leading large language models (LLMS), including OpenAl’s GPT-3.5 and GPT-4, Google’s Gemini, and Anthropic’s Claude, utilising 11 different assessments of political orientation.

    His findings revealed a consistent left-leaning bias across these models.

    Full article at SkyNews.com.au

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      David Maddison

      Thankfully Elon Musk is developing a truthful AI system.

      https://x.ai/about

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        https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-tucker-carlson-ai-twitter-chatgpt-24119e28f10e495cf45494318d509096

        Musk told Fox News host Tucker Carlson in a segment aired Monday night that he plans to create an alternative to the popular AI chatbot ChatGPT that he is calling “TruthGPT,” which will be a “maximum truth-seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe.”

        The idea, Musk said, is that an AI that wants to understand humanity is less likely to destroy it.

        Musk also said he’s worried that ChatGPT “is being trained to be politically correct.”

        Looking at commentary and stories about Musk’s AI, you can see that the Left are terrified of Musk’s truth-based and anti-woke approach.

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          Kim

          Chatgpt has very creepy, very annoying, very haughty, very childish use of language. It is very poor with nuance and with focus. It can’t follow threads. It has no real concept of self. It can’t think abstractly and work thought experiments. It is very defensive. It is fun to play around with for a very short while but I can’t see it being any more serious than that. Certainly not a money maker in the big sense. It’s very limited. Very easy and quick to get seriously pissed off with it. Definitely not a serious tool. Rather something to seriously avoid. It’s a short term minor fad at the most.

          AI is the attempt to replace humans with machines. It’s so eerily like humans that it has to be treated like humans – the same evaluations and rules apply. That’s ultimately where it will crash and burn.

          Tools are supposed to be commanded and used to produce results. They are supposed to serve. They are not supposed to be wagging the dog. Imagine if your hammer started to wag you. That is what AI attempts to do. And that will cause massive problems.

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            KP

            As I read yesterday, probably on here, the AI computer programmes are trained on the internet which they then add to. Sadly they are so poor that they lower the level of intelligence on the net, and hence train the next generation of AI programmes to be more stupid.

            This downward spiral of the machines mirrors that of the humans quite well, so I see a great future for them amongst the average population.

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            RickWill

            You should try Perplexity AI:
            https://www.perplexity.ai

            It gives answers that are usually factual. This is its answer when asked if ocean surface temperature can sustain more than 30C:

            Based on the information provided in the search results, there does not appear to be any ocean surface that maintains an average temperature higher than 30°C (86°F) year-round. However, some key points regarding ocean surface temperatures:
            There seems to be an upper limit or “thermal cap” on ocean surface temperatures around 30-31°C (86-88°F). As mentioned in result , a histogram of observed ocean temperatures shows a sharp cutoff around 31°C.
            While temperatures can briefly exceed 30°C in some areas, this appears to be during short-term heat waves rather than sustained averages. For example, result mentions marine heat waves in the Mediterranean reaching over 30°C in summer 2023.
            The highest regular sea surface temperatures are typically found in tropical regions like the “Pacific Warm Pool” northeast of Australia, which reaches around 30-31°C at its maximum but does not maintain that temperature year-round.
            Historical evidence suggests that in much warmer climates of the past, like the Eocene period, tropical sea surface temperatures may have exceeded 35°C (95°F). However, this is not observed in the current climate.
            Global warming is causing sea surface temperatures to rise. The global mean sea surface temperature has increased by 0.88°C between 1850-1900 and 2011-2020, with most warming occurring since 1980.
            In summary, while ocean surfaces can temporarily exceed 30°C during heat waves, there does not appear to be any area that maintains an average temperature above 30°C throughout the year in the current climate. The warmest regions seem to approach but not exceed this threshold on average.

            You will never get the CSIRO or BoM to admit this.

            I asked ChatGPT the same question and it went on to say that due to global warming the ocean surface will eventually sustain more than 30C.

            The 35C given for the Eocene is unlikely accurate because the 30C limit is controlled by the atmospheric mass. Atmospheric mass was higher during the Cretaceous period and sufficient to increase the temperature to 33C sustainable. But I believe atmospheric mass was reduced by the event that ended the Cretaceous.

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              Ireneusz Palmowski

              I agree 100%. Since the ocean maintains temperature much longer than the atmosphere and land, the global temperature is also limited by the temperature of the ocean surface. The mass of the atmosphere and the pressure near the surface control the evaporation of the ocean.
              Since the pressure near the surface is fairly constant, evaporation increases as solar radiation increases.
              There is a constant average temperature gradient in the troposphere, which operates until the atmosphere reaches a pressure of about 100 hPa, and this is the case on all planets that have a fairly dense atmosphere (well above 100 hPa at the surface).
              https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat-trop/gif_files/time_pres_TEMP_MEAN_ALL_EQ_2024.png

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            John Connor II

            But beyond the chatbots lies advances that scare the experts.
            There have been 3 major advances in the past WEEK!
            California’s just passed the AI killswitch law, Elon agrees with it, but true AI and the IoT are a dangerous combination.
            As I said yesterday, I expect true AGI within 2 years, not 30 years plus like everyone else expects.

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            Mike Jonas

            There are so many ways in which machines control humans now …

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    David Maddison

    This is some sort of New Age “healing” nonsense.

    And whenever I see the words wellness and holistic alarm bells in my head ring loudly!

    https://lifeforcemedbeds.com/

    Stay at the forefront of health technology with our MedBeds. From frequency modulation to electron balancing and oxygen therapy, we bring you innovations that set us apart, providing you with a wellness experience like no other.

    Recognizing your uniqueness, our MedBed Pod is highly customizable. Choose the MedBed size, color, and features that resonate with you, creating a wellness haven that aligns perfectly with your preferences.

    Experience the balance of silver and copper rods, promoting electron equilibrium within your body. Combined with vibration and heat therapy, this harmonious approach addresses musculoskeletal issues and enhances relaxation.

    Life Force MedBeds aligns with the growing interest in holistic healthcare and innovative therapies. By having this device, healthcare providers can position themselves as forward-thinking and responsive to patient preferences for holistic well-being.

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      Kim

      I see a lot of American snake oil advertisements on YouTube particularly. The problem with all these fake advertisements is they give a general bad reputation – an “avoid American products” impression.

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      John Connor II

      Gimmicks and quack cures have existed for thousands of years.
      Homeopathy is a prime culprit loved by many – the most potent formula is the one with no active ingredient!?
      Small bottle of water? That’ll be $40 please.
      Oh the gullible just line up to buy…
      The history of quackery is fascinating stuff.
      Radium toothpaste, Kellogg’s asthma cigarettes, Arsenic soap, Pink pills for pale people, Opium tampons, Cocaine wine…
      But back to modern times:

      Groundbreaking Docuseries Blows the Lid Off the Cancer Industry’s Biggest Lies

      Everything you thought you knew about cancer treatment is a lie.
      For 50 years, we’ve been sold the myth of a “War on Cancer”—but it’s all smoke and mirrors.
      The truth is that billions of dollars have been funneled into a conflict designed to fail.
      What’s heartbreaking is that the cancer death toll keeps rising, with millions losing their lives to a “fight” that was never meant to be won.
      Think chemotherapy is cutting-edge medicine? Think again. Its origins lie in the horrors of mustard gas used in world wars, and oncologists are pocketing kickbacks for every dose they prescribe.
      The pharmaceutical industry doesn’t want you healthy; it wants you sick and dependent.

      https://vigilantfox.news/p/groundbreaking-docuseries-blows-the

      Routine mammograms do not save lives: The research is clear

      As breast cancer awareness month kicks off, all women should know something: there is no reliable evidence that routine mammograms for healthy women save lives.

      There is good evidence that such mammograms can cause harm.

      https://theconversation.com/routine-mammograms-do-not-save-lives-the-research-is-clear-84110

      It’s a “Killer” Vaccine Worldwide: Japanese researchers say side effects of COVID vaccines linked to 201 types of diseases

      “You Were Right, Vaccines Are Killing Millions of Our Loved Ones”, Kazuhiro Haraguchi, Former Minister of Internal Affairs (emphasis added)

      “You will find diseases of the heart, kidney, thyroid, diabetes, liver, skin, eyes, blood, nerves, systemic diseases, brain, lungs”. Professor Masayasu Inoue, Osaka City University School of Medicine, emphasis added)

      “The mRNA vaccine disperses throughout the body and is not contained in the shoulder like most vaccines.

      “It doesn’t know where to go. If it goes into the bloodstream, it goes to the brain, liver and kidneys,” Professor Masanori Fukushima, Kyoto University

      https://www.globalresearch.ca/its-a-killer-vaccine-worldwide-japanese-researchers-say-side-effects-of-covid-vaccines-linked-to-201-types-of-diseases/5866700

      I’ll say it again:
      The vaxx is mCIA – an mRNA Code Injection Attack – it attacks the DNA by design, diseases are just incidental byproducts.

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        Mike Jonas

        There may be much truth in what you say, John Connor II, and the Covid mRNA vaccines have been an extreme example. However, my life experience has given me an appreciation of the medical/pharmaceutical industry, as they have managed to stay in front of my medical conditions. Now it could be that times are changing along the lines of Jerry Pournelle’s Iron Law of Bureaucracy, whereby organisations that set out to provide a service end up servicing only themselves. The replacenent of medical partnerships run by doctors, by medical centres run by business people looks like such a move. And of course, the Covid mRNA vaccine disaster shows that big pharma now has contempt for its customers. Is it too late now to get back on track? Time will tell, but I suspect that a swing away from the left could fix a lot of today’s problems.

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      Annie

      I loathe that term ‘wellness’! What’s wrong with ‘health’?

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      The people involved in erecting the wind farms are very well paid. They will be able to afford the high cost of the electricity providing they move onto subsequent projects or continue in servicing roles. Offshore work pays big money.

      The Gippsland region in Victoria is currently being primed to support the wind farm development:
      https://www.starofthesouth.com.au/jobs-guide

      Wilsons Promontory recorded wind gusts up to 160kph this week. The coastal waters off Gippsland would have experienced similar windspeed. Building turbines to survive in the environment will be very expensive.

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    Skepticynic

    Devin Nunes – We Are In The Investigation Phase, Justice Comes Next, Elections Were Rigged
    Rumble

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    another ian

    FWIW – An awkward question –

    “Explain to me why I should vote for Kamala without mentioning the words woman, minority or Trump”

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    FWIW – not a nice Sunday read on how free speech is going

    “DEMOCRACY AND SPEECH ☙ Saturday, August 31, 2024 ☙ C&C NEWS 🦠
    Special C&C Freedom Edition: how the globalists hope to capture the 2024 elections and what to do about it.”

    https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/democracy-and-speech-saturday-august?

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      CO2 Lover

      Free Speech Trivia – The Good Old Days

      Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988), is a landmark decision by the Supreme Court of the United States in which the Court held that parodies of public figures, even those intending to cause emotional distress, are protected by the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

      In the case, Hustler magazine ran a full-page parody ad against televangelist and political commentator Jerry Falwell Sr., depicting him as an incestuous drunk who had sex with his mother in an outhouse. The ad was marked as a parody that was “not to be taken seriously”. In response, Falwell sued Hustler and the magazine’s publisher Larry Flynt for intentional infliction of emotional distress, libel, and invasion of privacy, but Flynt defended the ad’s publication as protected by the First Amendment.

      After the film “The People vs. Larry Flynt” appeared, Falwell and Flynt began meeting in person to discuss philosophy. They visited colleges to publicly debate morality and the First Amendment, and exchanged Christmas cards and family photos. After Falwell’s death in 2007, Flynt wrote in the Los Angeles Times: “the ultimate result was one I never expected … We became friends”.

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      KP

      A great round-up of the totalitarian Governments attacks on free speech in the last month. I like the one of the Moscow Times criticising France for not knowing what the ‘liberte’ in their official slogan means.

      and this-

      “Brazilian Supreme Court judge Alexandre de Moraes… ordered Twitter/X to subject itself to government controls or face criminal prosecution.

      In response to those threats…the space billionaire promptly closed X’s offices in Brazil, to protect the company’s workers from being arrested. Judge de Moraes then ordered all of Starlink’s Brazilian bank accounts to be frozen, even though StarLink is a completely different company than Twitter with a completely different ownership structure—apparently just because Musk was involved….Musk then announced that StarLink, now unable to collect user fees, would provide internet service to Brazilians for free. De Moraes responded by ordering a bankrupting daily fine against any Brazilian citizen who accesses Twitter through StarLink or any other way.”

      I feel we may not be chatting in a year or two unless Mr Musk can over-turn the WEF push for complete censorship.

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        Philip

        oh well, that’s what the Brazilian people want. They may be idiots, but that’s democracy in South America in general. It delivers socialism. I’ve been to these places and Brazil is basically obsessed with a word beginning with S and ending in X and riddled with crime. Deplorable dangerous place, I couldn’t stand it. They get what they deserve.

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        wal1957

        Holy cow batman!
        I don’t know why that phrase came into my head.
        The last time I saw a batman show was probably in the 70’s.

        Judge de Moraes would be ideally placed in Nth Korea or perhaps Victoriastan during the heyday of “creeping assumption” Dan Andrews.
        Britain is attacking free speech under Starmer and Australia has our own Kommissar.
        I think everyone will have a breaking point with the free speech issue.
        eg. I will never refer to a man in a dress as a woman, or believe that a man can suddenly become a woman.
        To believe otherwise is akin to believing 2+2=5
        I have used a poor example but you get my drift. A lie is still a lie no matter how many times I am told otherwise.

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    David of Cooyal in Oz

    Morning all,

    I first heard about democracy while in primary school in the 1940s, whether from school or home I’m not sure, but the words as I remember them were:
    “Democracy provides the greatest good for the greatest number”.
    And I rather liked that.

    But what we seem to have here in Australia now is rather:
    ” Government for the loudest minority in the most divisive way possible”.
    And I don’t like it a bit.

    Cheers
    Dave B

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      Honk R Smith

      Cheer up.
      We did our part in the great struggle between ‘Democracy’ and ‘Communism” … for the children.
      We got a bunch of good James Bond movies.
      Shock trauma medicine made great advances with the aid of ordinance advances.
      (Although ‘Public Health’ is a disappointment.)

      And our prize is Global Capitalist Corporate Oligarchy with Communist* style thought control.
      Win, win.
      Peace through shared values.

      *(The Little Red Book version.)

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    Robber

    Australia’s electricity system is a basket case.
    Even at the end of winter, according to OpenNEM solar provides about 50% of electricity demand from about 11am to 2pm. That results in coal generators being forced to curtail production to meet 30% of demand, yet ramp up to supply 55% of demand to meet the morning and evening demand. Gas, wind and hydro make up the balance of supply.
    So even if nuclear replaces coal, the inability to run at say 80% utilisation 24×7 will make those baseload generators uneconomic.
    It is a similar story with gas generators that occasionally deliver 10% of demand but sit idle most of the time.
    In fact we still have 32.8 GW nameplate capacity of coal and gas generators and 8 GW of hydro to meet a peak demand of about 30 GW.
    Now add 11 GW of wind nameplate capacity, average delivery 3.3GW, and more than 10 GW of solar.
    That’s no way to run an efficient cost effective electricity grid.

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      CO2 Lover

      Do not worry BESS (Battery Energy Storage Systems) are coming to the rescue – The Main Stream Media has plenty of articles on these.

      The only thing they fail to mention is the cost.

      Around A$10 Trillion to even out the output of current wind and solar generators {when the wind does not blow and the Sun does not shine) before factoring in increases in wind and solar capacity!

      As mentioned above the new Kurri Kurri generator will have to rely on diesel fuel for the foreseeable future!

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        Philip

        Diesel until the gas comes online. This is the latest propaganda campaign, W n S with gas and batteries (its not rocket science dinosaur, is the slur accompanying this simple solution)

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          Philip

          But I suspect there will be diesel generators everywhere and Bowen will turn the blind eye

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          Graeme4

          If the aim is for only 18% fossil fuel energy by 2030, there won’t be sufficient spare gas capacity to provide any backup – it will be flat out trying to maintain power reliability.

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      RickWill

      So even if nuclear replaces coal, the inability to run at say 80% utilisation 24×7 will make those baseload generators uneconomic.

      By the time there is a nuclear plant running in Australia, the cost of exporting lunchtime power will be prohibitively expensive. Rooftop solar will be useless without a battery. Batteries only make economic sense if the household disconnects from the grid because the connection fee can be continually ratcheted up to bleed money from households despite the household being self-sufficient.

      The nuclear plants could run at full capacity without exposure to the wholesale price. Any nuclear generators would be Federally owned assets The “market” will operate above the baseload requirement.

      If Snowy 2 gets completed then there is economic merit in some wind and solar. However, unless the RET is maintained beyond the current deadline of 2030, there will be no more grid scale intermittent generators added and the existing ones will not be replaced.

      So the grid will gradually become nuclear fort baseload, gas and hydro for peak demand and wind and solar for conserving perched water in the hydro system.

      Some households will be energy self-sufficient. Australia is indeed lucky when it comes to its abundance of sunshine. Just a tad more water than the Sahara so a tad more cloud. Even northern Tasmania does quite well with sunlight.

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        Philip

        Does well with sunlight.

        MY house gets three hours sunlight per day. Not my choice I want to fell some eucalypt trees threating to crash on my house. Not allowed. It is a bold assumption that all houses have full sunlight. No they don’t. And for all those people who live in units and high rise?

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          Graeme4

          In my case, even with the solar panels high up, there isn’t sufficient sunlight in winter months to provide anywhere near my daily average consumption. During winter, I only consume an average of 12 kWh daily. But during July and June, there were only five days in each month when my solar system reached that daily figure. During summer it’s not unusual to achieve 35 kWh daily from these panels, so really handy on the hot days when the air con is running.

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            ozfred

            The “interesting” weather southern WA has experienced in recent months has proven to be expensive.
            With night time temperatures staying at about the ten degC mark, it is actually too warm to “fire up” the wood heater (I have a LOT of free fire wood available). So the split system electrical systems get run. And the perpetual winter cloudiness means that the solar will be lucky to break even during the shorter day (and is useless after sunset).
            Long term panel (6kw) generation
            32/33 kwh/day summer 40-50% local use
            13/15 kwh/day winter 20-30% local use

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              Graeme4

              I calculate my solar system’s efficiency based on the fact that it’s a 5.2kW system that, for 100% eff, should deliver this power 24/7. Currently it’s been running at 9%, have yet to work out the August figure, but expect 11%.

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                RickWill

                Anyone going off grid needs to space the panels and tilt them to maximise winter input. May is my worst month for sunlight so ideal angle around 55 degrees to vertical for 37S.

                My off-grid system runs at 3.9% CF because that is all that is needed to meet the demand while minimising overall system cost. The battery is the expensive part. But not all the panels are optimised for May sunlight. Something I realised in the first year of operation.

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        Mike Jonas

        We are heading for the situation where households with solar oanels and a battery will do better if they replace their solar panels with a second battery. They will be paid to charge the battery, which can be used to avoud expensive grid electricity. That’s better than being off-grid. This can’t last long, though, something’s going to break.

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          RickWill

          something’s going to break.

          The grid was broken the first time intermittent generating sources were permitted to connect. It is being held together with duct tape and fencing wire. It cannot be rectified quickly. No one will be permitted to build a new coal fired station in Australia until the grid collapses.

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      wal1957

      The fix would be to build nuclear (assuming the idiots in charge believe in gerbil warming),
      and to dump the unreliables.That way we end up with a reliable 24/7 electricity grid.
      I don’t think that the general population understand unreliables will always need a backup generation system. This obviously makes unreliables the dearer option.

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    FWIW – In Brasil vs Musk

    “Mischief Is Important”

    “American AF @iAnonPatriot • 4h
    BREAKING

    Millions of people around the world are setting their VPNs to
    Brazil, to mess with the Brazilian authorities. ”

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Capture-16-600×174.jpg

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2024/08/31/mischief-is-important-48/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “The modern rate of sea level rise is not even close veering outside the range of natural variability.”

    “A new study reminds us that, 8200 years ago, near-global sea levels rose 6.5 meters in a span of just 140 years. This is 470 centimeters per century, 4.7 centimeters per year, during a period when CO2 levels were alleged to be a “safe” and stagnant 260 ppm.”

    More at

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/08/26/the-modern-rate-of-sea-level-rise-is-not-even-close-veering-outside-the-range-of-natural-variability/

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      RickWill

      Earth is currently coming to the end of an interglacial that has been remarkably stable throughout recorded human history.

      The sea level rose 96.6m from 16ka to 10ka; equivalent to 13.8mm per year for 7,000 years. Roughly 10 times the rate of the present change.

      Within 2000 years, very few of existing sea ports will be navigable. Large regions of Bass Strait will experience breaking waves when the winter storms arrive. Port Phillip and Westernport will be backwaters with limited connection to the ocean. Moreton Bay will not exist.

      Rapid sea level fall will have a much greater impact on existing infrastructure than the moderate rise currently being experienced. Greenland is already gaining elevation and permanent ice extent. There are at least two northern slopes near the Arctic Ocean in Alaska that are gaining permafrost. These are early indicators for the interglacial ending.

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        Greg in NZ

        N.H. winter arrives early (?) or perhaps it never departed:

        According to snow-forecast.com the last 7 days of August saw widespread snow across Alaska, NW Canada, Greenland (over 1/2 a metre), Tibet, western China and eastern Siberia, with the Arctic north (via DMI) having dropped below zero (0C) a week or more ago (bang on ‘average’).

        Don’t think woolly mammoths and camel-like hump-d-backs nor English tourists seeking a sun-drenched holiday are going to be disturbing the natives for a while just yet…

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        ozfred

        very few of existing sea ports will be navigable.
        An investment opportunity exists.
        Buy into companies which are expert at marine dredging !

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        Ireneusz Palmowski

        This is evident from the very stable summer temperatures over the North Pole. The angle of the Earth’s axis is decreasing.
        https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Climate Emergency? But The Council Workers Need Paying!”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/08/27/climate-emergency-but-the-council-workers-need-paying/

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    OldOzzie

    BLS Data Slipups Are Becoming a Pattern

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics has become an enormously important economic actor. Its repeated mistakes demand a thorough investigation.

    By The Bloomberg Editorial Board

    This can’t keep happening. With trust in government already ebbing, there’s yet one more reason to question the integrity of the office that distributes key data about jobs and prices.

    The problems at the Bureau of Labor Statistics need to be addressed quickly for the good of financial markets, the economy and public confidence in the state.

    The Aug. 21 employment data release was already likely to cause consternation, especially amid a presidential campaign. That’s because it showed that an earlier estimate of how many jobs were created in the year through March was probably too high by 818,000, the biggest revision in 15 years. But such corrections do happen.

    The real problem was how the BLS distributed this extremely sensitive and market-moving data. The scheduled 10 a.m. public release was delayed, unexpectedly, until after 10:30. But during the delay BLS officials provided the still-unreleased numbers to select analysts who called the bureau. Market participants said they were stunned by such mismanagement.

    The bureau has promised that its inspector general will investigate and pledged to make several procedural changes to avoid any future mishaps. But that’s of little solace given the increasing frequency with which such problems have been occurring. A full investigation was also promised after a bungled release of consumer price data in May. E-mail records and unusual price movements have raised suspicions that key statistics are being released selectively. The latest snafu adds to the impression that there’s a culture of leaks inside the department.

    Making matters worse, the bureau still hasn’t fully implemented four outstanding recommendations that the inspector general made last year to ensure that its data collection and survey techniques are fair and transparent.

    The BLS, which traces its history to 1884, has become one of the most powerful actors in the economy. Markets watch its every move, while analysts meticulously parse its releases for insight.

    So there’s little excuse for the sloppy execution of its core business of safeguarding and releasing data.

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    TdeF

    I also am amazed at what NOAA publishes. It’s often rubbish.

    This is the worst graph, purporting to show that human emissions and total CO2 are connected.

    This is not created by a scientist.

    1. No X axis on the emissions side, which allows the creator to move graph up and down and scale to match.

    2. different scale left and right even though they are measuring the same thing, but in ppm and Gt.
    Which combined with #1 allows you to expand the blue graph to match so the two graphs look very comparable and overlay.
    They are the same ‘shape’

    If you draw the graphs again as GT, the black line is on the X axis as under 1% of the blue line. It is not visible.

    3. One is absolute, total CO2 on the left. The other is incremental, emissions per year. If the proposition is that emissions contribute to total CO2, emissions should be an integral not incremental. Even the shape is different when integrated. A straight line becomes a parabola. And a parabola becomes a hyperbola.

    This graph was not produced by a scientist. Its intent is clear, to deceive. Total CO2 in the air is around 3,000Gigatons where annual emissions are a tiny 35 Gigatons.

    The whole proposition is ridiculous. But NASA and the IPCC have invented this ‘surface’ ocean, ‘bottom ocean’ idea to argue that ’emissions’ are trapped in the ‘biosphere’.
    Except that it is unsupported by any facts and is demonstrably wrong.

    NOAA and NASA are publicly funded and speak with the voice of authority.

    This graph presented by everyone as factual is an abomination.

    If you want the real graph of CO2, it is here.

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      TdeF

      I think the implied logic in the NOAA graph is the worst I have seen.
      You can try some like these

      But plotting the same thing CO2 on different scales and origins is beyond belief. Along with plotting annual against total.

      The master web site for Spurious Correlations is here. But NOAA is not joking and the two variables are the same thing, CO2, so the use of different axes is deliberate deceit.

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        Greg in NZ

        Those graphs are enough to make a purple-haired Greenie thing cycle to the edge of the known world – ie. flat earth theory – and take a giant leap of faith to achieve carbon zerohood. Perchance NOAAAAA is the sound they emit as they realise it was only a (bad) dream…

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    YYY Guy

    So much free energy
    Yes, Tas really does have wind farms. Totally appropriate for the roaring forties.

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      Greg in NZ

      Do windmills feel the windchill?

      Hobart’s Mt Wellington enjoyed -22 C windchill on Saturday thanks to 173 km/h breezes wafting over the Apple Isle’s southern hilltops.

      Whoah there Nelly, tether those blades before they explode* / burst into flames* / fall over* (then burst into flames killing wildlife & rare snails).

      * worst-case scenario as per IPCCCCCC

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      Russell

      Funny that! Strong winds doing all sorts of damage but the “hybrid” generating systems for King and Flinders Islands are getting more than half their power from diesel at the moment!

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        Graeme No.3

        As I’ve commented before The Falklands are in the Roaring Forties and are know as ‘windy places’.
        This lead to the installation of 3 wind turbine which were expected to reduce their imports of diesel fuel (their sole method of generating electricity).
        The results seemed favourable with diesel consumption reduced by 20-30% – say, an average of 25%.
        Fare off public servants decided on installing more and 6 more same type turbines were installed.
        The result was about 40% reduction in diesel.
        The more renewables the less the merriment.

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          ozfred

          Given the cost of getting diesel to the Falklands is likely a large percentage of the landed fuel cost, perhaps the experiment was a worthwhile exercise.
          Do the local people (and the people supplying the funds) understand the idea – Stop while you are ahead?

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          Philip

          Yes that is all windmills will ever do, reduce your fuel use a bit. Problem is you still need 100% backup, so unless fuel is limited, there is no point, because all it can do is push up prices. However, Falklands being so isolated, I’d have windmills too, because fuel is limited.

          It is interesting how Falklands are not 100% off grid with batteries. If it’s that easy to do these are the places it would be easily achieved, Falklands, King Island etc.

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            KP

            ” Falklands, King Island etc.”… All the places that don’t generate enough money to pay for batteries.

            The Falklands must be quite a drain on the UK’s treasury, an ego-asset for a country, like a guy owning a Ferrari to drive around town.

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    Top Biden-Harris Climate Official Gets Off Easy After Conflict-of-Interest Violations
    Senior EPA official held large stakes in companies directly impacted by his actions

    https://freebeacon.com/democrats/top-biden-harris-climate-official-gets-off-easy-after-multiple-ethical-conflict-of-interest-violations/

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    John Connor II

    Thousands of Japanese Doctors Rise Up against Bill Gates’ New Covid ‘Replicon Vaccine’

    The group, known as “The United Citizens for Stopping mRNA Vaccines,” has voiced concerns about the “Replicon vaccine.”

    The injection is a novel coronavirus vaccine developed by Arcturus Therapeutics.

    Experts argue that the vaccine, scheduled to be administered to Japanese citizens in October, poses identified risks.

    They warn that it should not be used on the public and refuse to administer the dangerous shots to their patients.

    The doctors highlight that the Replicon vaccine is a “self-amplifying mRNA” vaccine that has not been tested on humans before.

    These experimental vaccines are being pushed by Microsoft founder Bill Gates.

    Scientists around the world have been raising the alarm about the dangerous “self-amplifying mRNA” injections.

    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/thousands-of-japanese-doctors-rise

    The name alone scares me!

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    John Connor II

    Sunday sarcasm

    “I think, therefore I am arrested.”
    – Rene Descartes, UK

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    John Connor II

    Sunday funny: new fire equipment to be installed in parliament houses around Australia

    https://imgbox.com/JJh4uSwm

    I wanna be the 1st responder!

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    CO2 Lover

    It is not only birds and bats that find wind turbines problematic!

    Aircraft collides with wind turbine, one dead, other severely injured

    Credit: Hanna Hofmann · 2024 August 30 · aussiedlerbote.de ~~

    Near Nettersheim, Kreis Euskirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia, a propeller-driven plane hit a wind turbine during takeoff from Würselen-Aachen Airport, resulting in a crash in the municipality of Nettersheim. This unfortunate incident led to a fatality at the scene and left another passenger severely wounded. The spokesperson for the Euskirchen district police confirmed these details, mentioning that the incident occurred in the afternoon.

    The aircraft was en route to Speyer in Rhineland-Palatinate when the fog got heavy, causing it to collide with the wind turbine and plummet into a nearby field. A witness reported a heavy crash around 2:30 PM and contacted emergency services, as stated by Bild. The woman died instantly, and the man was severely injured and transported to a hospital.

    The police confirmed that the plane involved in the crash was an American model. A perimeter was set up around the crash site, and the authorities are currently conducting a thorough investigation.

    The American-model aircraft (a Boeing-Stearman E75 (PT-13D) Kaydet) unfortunately crashed, resulting in a fatal incident and severe injuries. Witnesses reported hearing a heavy impact around 2:30 PM, suggesting the time of the aircraft crash.

    https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2024/08/31/aircraft-collides-with-wind-turbine-one-dead-other-severely-injured/

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    KP

    The dreams and lies Dept-

    “Australia needs emissions to fall consistently between now and 2030 to meet its legislated emissions reduction target, with the deepest cuts to come from replacing polluting coal-fired power plants with clean renewable energy….Australia’s target of cutting emissions 43 per cent from 2005 levels by 2030 is legally binding… The government is banking on the transformation of the nation’s coal-dominated electricity sector to deliver the bulk of emissions cuts. “Australia is lucky (cheap political hit there!) with some of the best solar and wind resources – harnessing them will ensure the clean, cheap, reliable and resilient energy system that Australians deserve,” Bowen said.”

    The reality-
    “Emissions in the electricity sector rose 1.7 per cent in the March quarter. Emissions in the electricity sector rose 1.3 per cent in the June quarter.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/renewables-meet-reality-power-grid-emissions-rise-to-threaten-australia-s-climate-goals-20240830-p5k6lf.html

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      CO2 Lover

      .Australia’s target of cutting emissions 43 per cent from 2005 levels by 2030 is legally binding

      But no one bothered to cost what this would require!

      If Australia breaks the law – so what. Who is going to prosecute us?

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      TdeF

      Legally binding yes, but it only takes a change in the law. The problem is that both sides love the power and money it gives them. The idea that they destroying Australia is irrelevant. They have their superannuation plans.

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        CO2 Lover

        They have their superannuation plans.

        Both Albo and Dutton were first elected before the 2004 election when John Howard paniced under pressure from Mark Lathan over the super generous Defined Benefit pension scheme and then closed the scheme to new PMs and Senators. (Now the default fund is the Union controlled AustralianSuper!)

        The value of a life pension for Albo and Dutton and their widows is about 5-10 times what other MPs will now get depending on how long they and their wives live.

        I wonder how many current Senators and MPs realised how badly they were shafted by Johnny Howard so that he could win the 2004 election!

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1774668/Video-Mark-Lathams-infamously-aggressive-handshake-John-Howard.html

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          John Connor II

          The value of a life pension for Albo and Dutton and their widows is about 5-10 times what other MPs will now get depending on how long they and their wives live.

          Will their funds be exempt in the great reset though?
          Oh the irony of their being wiped out like everyone else and their WEF subservience all for naught.

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          Tel

          I wonder how many current Senators and MPs realised how badly they were shafted by Johnny Howard so that he could win the 2004 election!

          Was there anyone who didn’t get shafted by John Howard?!?

          At least when it happens to people like that … I don’t feel so bad about some of the other things he got up to.

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      CO2 Lover

      Meanwhile in India

      India’s economy saw rapid growth in 2023, expanding by 6.7%. The country’s emissions grew faster than GDP, at slightly more than 7%, rising around 190 Mt to reach 2.8 Gt

      Meanwhile in China

      China’s CO2 emissions grew 565 Mt in 2023 to reach 12.6 Gt. This represents an increase of 4.7%, as emissions from energy combustion increased 5.2% while those from industrial processes stayed broadly stable.

      https://www.iea.org/reports/co2-emissions-in-2023/energy-intensive-economic-growth-compounded-by-unfavourable-weather-pushed-emissions-up-in-china-and-india

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      ozfred

      Australia’s target of cutting emissions 43 per cent from 2005 levels by 2030 is legally binding
      Nothing to worry about.
      Chinese reporting methods will be employed and the PER CAPITA emissions will handily meet the legislated target.

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    John Connor II

    Some serious weather down in Tas with Maatsuyker island winds reaching 185 km/h, cat 3 cyclone level.
    Their previous record was 200 km/h last year.
    With worse weather predicted later today, maybe it’ll top their record.

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    CO2 Lover

    PETER VAN ONSELEN: How things are about to get real for Albanese’s amateur finance team

    While the nation’s finance team – the Treasurer Jim Chalmers, Finance Minister Katy Gallagher and Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones – don’t hold a single economic qualification between them, let’s hope they are getting some good advice from the government bureaucracy {good luck with that!}.

    DEI appointments – the lot of them!

    We are already in a per capita recession, meaning that as individuals we are becoming poorer by the day. And we have been in a per capita recession for more than a year. But the economy as a whole, so far, hasn’t gone backwards, even though citizens are suffering. {The immigration ponzi scheme at work!}

    That’s because of sky-high immigration, growing the population base and thus propping up overall growth numbers. Even if as individuals we are getting poorer.

    This past week we saw just how sticky high inflation is in Australia, with the latest numbers coming in worse than the market was anticipating, despite artificial efforts by Labor using the energy rebate in the Budget to bring the headline inflation number temporarily down.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13795247/PVO-Albanese-Chalmers-Australian-economy.html

    May we live in interesting times.

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    An interesting 2 yr old video, by a conspiracy minded guy, who actually checked out what what happens if you search for …..something… , but even if the search engine says it has a million hits, almost all the search engines start throwing out pages of MSM repeats, by between pages 5 to 30! Deleting the internet by siloing a few answers on any topic?! We have to be very specific to find anything different!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O_NvPpbsbw&t=333s

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    another ian

    FWIW

    Check the graph for Canada

    “Gradually, Then Suddenly”

    “E.J. Antoni, Ph.D.
    @RealEJAntoni

    We are fast on our way to smashing all previous records
    for interest on the debt relative to the size of the
    economy – today’s slight upward revision to nominal
    GDP doesn’t even put a dent in the projection:

    Sources: Bureau Of Economic Analysis, Dr. E.J. Antoni; Chart: @realejantoni
    8:36 PM Aug 30, 2024
    Views
    84.9K”

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2024/08/31/gradually-then-suddenly-16/

    A similar plot for Oz?

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Globalists Are Trying To Escalate The Ukraine War Into WWIII Before The US Election”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/globalists-are-trying-escalate-ukraine-war-wwiii-us-election

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      another ian

      The nub of that –

      “But how do they turn the proxy war into a world war without looking like the bad guys? That’s the trick, isn’t it?”

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        John Connor II

        Well, we all know that mercs and foreign military trainers are in Ukraine but their actions can’t be ascribed to NATO, so Russia can’t declare war (and initiate a high probability first strike).
        Ukraine would have to do something really stupid like target Moscow for Putin to really respond.
        Goading hasn’t worked so far as Putin knows the game all too well.
        Arms, funds and support for Ukraine are drying up fast, so time for such a strike is limited, and the US “election” looming large.
        It’s also now September, a month of real fun.
        No doubt it won’t be long now.

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          Hanrahan

          Arms, funds and support for Ukraine are drying up fast

          Not in Europe, Sweden is upping the anti and Macron is talking big.

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          KP

          ” mercs and foreign military trainers are in Ukraine ”

          The turnover is continuing, funny how so many poor civilians killed in a Russian missile strike end up being foreign mercenaries a few days later..

          “Likewise, in the recent Russian Iskander strike on the ‘Aurora’ hotel in Krivoy Rog, widely decried as a “strike on civilians”, we now learn from Ukrainian sources that an SBU colonel and mercenary were amongst the killed, validating the Russian MOD’s version that a secret grouping of officers was hit at the hotel:”

          Social media helps with a woman talking of how she was trying to get the bodies back home from Kryvyi Rih.

          Also in there- Soldiers worried about something silent in the sky at night that illuminates their positions with a green light, and a commander talking of the ideal soldier- someone 40 to 50years old, an ex-miner or factory worker! So there’s hope for some of us yet!

          https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-82824-tangible-panic-grows

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    Steve of Cornubia

    I think we have some internet sleuths on here, far better than I am at tracking down information, so this is an appeal to them.

    In the way these things happen and doubtless because Google is aware of my interest in motor racing, a video came to my attention of a female racing driver called Caroline Grifnée. I was immediately fascinated by some onboard footage from one of her races, in which she displayed quite remarkable car control. I wanted to know more. Unfortunately, I found that she had died in 2021, aged just 39. It seems she succumbed to that terrible affliction called ‘died suddenly’. Of course this led me to wonder what the cause of death was, but so far at least, I can’t find anything. Every single report states they didn’t have a cause of death. Sound familiar?

    What really did surprise me though was that no cause of death appears to have been publicised even three years later. Can any of the aforementioned interweb detectives find out what happened to her? While I got used to reports of deaths a couple years ago giving no cause, I find it difficult to believe that information could be hidden for three years.

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    From France24: “The bodies of six hostages taken by Hamas on October 7 were recovered from a tunnel in the Rafah area of the Gaza Strip, the Israeli military confirmed on Sunday, sparking calls [in Israel] for mass protests against” … Hamas for taking hostages and murdering them? No, against Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. The world has gone mad.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      You will find that the leftist mind virus is quite widespread in Israelis, surprisingly. It seems particularly rampant among expat Jews, particularly those living in America. No, I can’t explain it either.

      Laura Rosen Cohen, a very smart and well informed Jewess living in Canada, who writes for and works with Mark Steyn, has much to say on the subject.

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      ozfred

      “An autopsy found they were murdered in the 48 hours prior to the discovery of their bodies”
      quote _Times of Israel_

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    John Connor II

    Sunlight Startup says it’ll use huge space mirror to sell sunlight during nighttime

    A provocative startup claims it will soon let people buy spots of sunlight reflected with a giant satellite mirror — but there are still a lot of outstanding questions about how (and whether) the whole thing will actually work.

    Notably, Reflect Orbital hasn’t yet launched the mirror-equipped satellite that’s key to its value proposition, though the California-based company says on its reservation page that “delivery” of these sunspots will occur in the latter part of 2025.

    Despite those claims, it’s also unclear both how much the launch is going to cost and, perhaps more importantly, how much it’s going to cost consumers to purchase this so-called “sunlight-as-a-service.”

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/solar-power-at-night-reflect-orbital-satellite-startup/

    Great for solar panels at night!

    Gustav Graves would be proud.
    https://youtu.be/xMxVBY70dPU

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      Another diversion tactic from Labour.
      Two months in – and already hard-pressed – hence the ‘Look, Squirrel’. Like smoking.

      I wonder if they thought Government is easy?

      Auto

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    Kim

    Rule by Narrative – something that I’m sure that we are all acutely aware of: I’m seeing this with the left and I’m sure that it is strongly creeping in on the climate nonsense side. On a completely separate example: We have a local beach that I frequent that is also used by dog walkers. There are hooded plovers nesting there and being protected by PaW and by locals. The narrative is that it’s us humans and dogs that are the danger (by din of original sin). The truth is that there are dugites and bob tails and the humans cause no damage and the dogs are kept under strong control. Needless to say any signs erected are being ignored and will continue to be ignored. Anyway it’s on federal land.

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    KP

    …and it continues!

    “The United Arab Emirates has frozen a monumental $10 billion contract to purchase 80 Dassault Rafale fighter jets from France. This dramatic move comes right after Pavel Durov, the billionaire founder of Telegram, was arrested in Paris. ”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYmvMD0iiTg

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