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    John Connor II

    The leading cause of death in Alberta, Canada WAS Alzheimer’s but is now “unknown cause”

    Several doctors and a civil liberties lawyer in the Canadian province are raising concerns around the growing trend of deaths labelled as ill-defined or of unknown causes after an unprecedented increase in such deaths was recorded in 2021.

    That category has overtaken dementia, which had been in the top spot since 2016, and ‘Covid-19’ which was added to Alberta’s death tally in 2020.

    A study looking at excess deaths in Alberta during the Covid pandemic was quietly released in March in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases.

    CTV news reports: The unknown causes of death category only began appearing on the list in 2019 — there is no record of it ranking before then, dating back to 2001.

    https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(21)00946-2/pdf

    Alzheimer’s eh…someone should do an article on that!
    Unknown causes – can’t imagine what they’d be. 😉

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      KP

      Well, Covid overall was a bust- Killed about 6million over 2.5years up to now, but that’s just 13days of the world’s births…To hold the population steady would take nearly half a million people dying a day from Covid, so even more to reduce it.

      That’s why they needed vaccines…

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        Curious George

        Biden, vaxxed 4 times, just got Covid. We need more Pfizers.

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          Steve of Cornubia

          Don’t worry, he is no doubt being treated with ‘I Don’t Believe It’s Not Ivermectin’.

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            Destroyer D69

            I am eternally amazed at the “Fortuitous synchronicity”of how the infected multi vaxxed, have available, almost instantly, a well researched,tested and approved magic bullet for the new danger.In this case, Pavloxid? How lucky we are to have these phamaceutical future visionaries to look after us!

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    John Connor II

    Jacinda Ardern ‘Baffled’ As COVID Infections SOAR in Mask Mandate New Zealand

    Jacinda Ardern says she is ‘baffled’ by New Zealand having the highest number of deaths and Covid infections than all neighbouring maskless countries, despite New Zealand maintaining strict mask mandates.

    Coincidentally, Singapore is the only other country with mask mandates and that country is also experiencing record-level infections and deaths.

    “Of course, this is only the latest example that shows masks do little or nothing to prevent the spread of airborne viruses, and may make things worse,” writes Will Jones.

    https://summit.news/2022/07/20/covid-infections-and-deaths-in-mask-mandate-new-zealand-soar-above-those-in-mask-free-australia/

    But The Greens here want masks (aka facial “comfort blankets”) back.

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      Jack01

      She and most other governments purposely ignored all the data for the past 2.5 years that showed masks + social distancing + every other stupid measure didn’t work.

      And now she acts “surprised”.

      Something is seriously wrong when people like this are still allowed to continue in their positions.

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      DLK

      ADE

      “According to Lyons-Weiler, who has published over 50 peer-reviewed articles and is the founder of the Institute of Pure and Applied Knowledge, a non-profit that conducts scientific research in the public interest, “Given the repeated rounds of studies showing negative effectiveness with real-world data, and the fact of higher incidence of COVID-19 diagnoses and higher numbers of hospitalizations from COVID-19, and higher rates of severe COVID-19 infections in the vaccinated, we can only conclude that ADE must be occurring.” via Epoch Times

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      It has already been widely reported that the micron size of the virus is many times smaller than the mesh size of these masks. You would need an expensive air tight mask with an an oxygen supply to prevent breathing in the virus. And that’s assuming that the oxygen supply is virus free.

      ‘Pollies’ and Health Officials/Administrators please take note and do your homework.

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        Sigh. And masks have electrostatic effects that deal with smaller sub 0.1 micron particles. The lowest performance of N95 masks is at 0.3micron, and they are better above and below that size. Mask science and engineering is about particle size, charge, types of filters, humidity, temperature, turbulence, air flow, fit, length of wear, training of user, classification of mask P1 P2 P3. They are between 0 and 100% effective (astronaut level) depending on 20 variables which also include effects on viral load which may or may not make the difference between an asymptomatic or symptomatic infection. Please can we get past the binary Good:Bad level of discussion. Sometimes they are useful, sometimes not. I get that some people hate masks, and I won’t force you to wear one. I just want a scientific discussion.

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          Broadie

          I just want a scientific discussion.

          Done! If A Fart Can Make It Through Pants, How Can A Mask Protect You From A Virus?

          Actual logical discussion similar to Jo’s explores the answer to this question.

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          John Connor II

          Well even looking at the 3M website data on the much vaunted N95 mask (which I did in early 2020) they say the N95 mask shouldn’t be used for protection. Instead, the R95 should be used. Given the crudeness of the average face mask compared to the N95 it’s little wonder they offer such limited protection if any so why do the experts continue to push them if they’re serious about real prevention. Why not say everyone has to wear R95’s?
          (I can’t breathe well in either anyway.)
          No-one has the capacity to go to 3m.com?
          Correct on all points Jo, as described in the N95 pdf.
          The reality is most likely a knee-jerk reaction by the experts because they have no real-world expertise in outbreak management and can’t offer more effective worthwhile strategies.

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            All products have legal disclaimers saying that they don’t guarantee anything. Legal catch-phrases are meaningless.

            And yes, the public level of discussion on masks has been very low grade. If the Chief Medical Officers were interested in stopping the spread, surely they would teach people which type of masks to use and how to use them? Speaks volumes that they don’t.

            Of course, I respect that masking should be personal choice. I bought N95 way back in late January 2020 because I knew the surgical masks were much less useful (and curiously there were hardly any left, even then, as apparently chinese agents had bought out nearly all of them in Perth, WA). When I use them I honestly forget I’m wearing one but I understand that other people find them very unpleasant.

            The obsession with masks, while ignoring nasal sprays, mouth washes, zinc lozenges, D3, better air circulation and UVC is hard to explain. Obviously the Ro of Omicron BA5 is now so legendary that masks are less useful than they were, and we need every easy tool we can use (if the aim is to reduce the spread).

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              John Hultquist

              Here in the Left Coast State of Washington we are required to wear masks in health facilities. Masks such as the one shown here
              https://scx2.b-cdn.net/gfx/news/hires/2020/3-covid19.jpg

              – – – are available in the lobby. A small percent of people still carry (& wear) the ones now referred to as “fashion statements”, such as this
              https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1605528/covid19-coronavirus-getty.jpg

              The first of those I received and wore at a medical office this week. There were two other men in the waiting area. Each man was at least 100 pounds (45 kg) heavier than is healthy. The odd thought occurred to me that obesity germs would be big enough to be stopped by the simple mask. Oh, I guess obesity isn’t contagious. I said it was an odd thought.

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              John B

              Indeed! Asbestos dust (0.3 microns and larger). Virus particles (0.05 microns). Yet, PPE experts say quite forcefully that ordinary masks you buy in a shop don’t protect you from asbestos dust.
              We need Doctors of Physics rather than Doctors of Medicine to comment on the physics of transmission. Like quoting Stokes’s Law on the dispersal of virus particles in an indoor setting, such as, a supermarket, shop, or, mall pertaining to the ridiculous rule of 2 metres social distancing. The virus aerosols stay in the air for hours to days according to Sir George Stokes formula.

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                John B — false equivalence. Again, there’s the unscientific meaninglessness of legalese. PPE companies have lawyers and they would say that, wouldn’t they?.

                Secondly, 1 molecule of asbestos is different from 1 virion. And so is the aim here — 1 virion is unlikely to infect anyone. Doctors of Physics won’t be able to help much without learning from Drs of Virology. At a rough estimate it takes 10,000 virions minimum to cause an illness, perhaps the rest are junk mutants, perhaps they have to land in the right spot. Perhaps human bodies can deal with a load with innate immunity and it has to be overcome. Reducing the viral load by 90% is going to stop some infections.

                If we were to 100% protect health-workers from Omicron then just like asbestos-workers they need an astronaut suit. But if we are just trying to reduce the viral load or reduce the rate of infection then an N95 does something. Is it a 5% or 25% reduction, is it worth it? That’s a fair debate.

                Look I get that people hate masks, so that’s OK, just say so. But lets not try to call it a science discussion.

                It almost looks like some people don’t want to discuss mask science, instead they want to convince themselves they have reasons for not wanting to wear them. It’s possible the benefits are not worth the pain. Up to each to decide for themselves.

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                MP

                Which fire departments wear these, with all that electrostatic protection?

                Two and a half years of mask wearing and all you over educated persons still have is the one tool in your kit, Compliance is “science”.

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                ….or maybe a mask is just a mask, and not a political statement.

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                Hanrahan

                Has it been shown that such fine dust can actually cause asbestosis?

                I, and every other mechanic, used to blow brake dust out of the drums with air, back when Hardie was the big pad manufacturer, but I have never heard of mechanics dying of it. I have always assumed that asbestos needed to still be fibrous to cause problems. An assumption, as I said.

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              Strop

              I bought N95 way back in late January 2020

              Wow. Talk about quickly out of the blocks.

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              ianl

              @Nova

              Look I get that people hate masks, so that’s OK, just say so. But lets not try to call it a science discussion.

              You’ve said that two or three times in this thread, yet you have not yet provided the reason you prefer to use them. All your comments have simply reiterated those parameters you consider relevant. Not science yet …

              A few years back, I was part of a small group charged with examining the potential for pneumoconiosis being caused by stockpile dusts. In that process, we examined the value of N95 masks inserted into moist dust-laden air with laser (monochromatic) photography. One of the obvious conclusions was that N95 masks did not and could not prevent dusty water droplets from passing through the mesh in typical room atmosphere – drops larger than mesh size simply broke into smaller drops when they contacted the mesh fibre strands and continued their through passage.

              So 0.1 micron dust particles are not virions. They do coagulate on water drops and are not hindered in passage by the N95 mask mesh in typical ambient room atmospheric conditions.

              Under those conditions, masks are placebos. They have a dual control purpose: a) control to reduce panic (a comfort action seeming to reduce risk); b) control of dissidents as they then easily identified (the “unmasked”), again to provide seeming comfort..

              [I cannot provide a copy of our report, much as I may wish to as it is under very strict confidentiality. Pneumoconiosis risk does that].

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                IanL says ” you have not yet provided the reason you prefer to use them. “.

                🙂 You may have heard I sometimes write a blog. See the tag for “Masks“.

                March 2020: Masks do help, even (maybe) stopping 75% of influenza, and you can make them
                July 2020: Cheap ways to starve a virus: Masks reduce spread by 70%, Distance by 80%
                Sept 2020: Good news: masks, means more asymptomatic infections and less severe ones

                Even though I bought masks in Jan 2020 I was surprised in March when I read the paper on influenza. I didn’t think masks would be that useful.

                Strop: I was watching the Twitter feed from China from Jan 23 or so. Chinese doctors were wearing full masks and googles taped to their skin. It was obvious that they thought it was airborne. I don’t claim to be an expert. I haven’t looked at studies on masks with Omicron.

                Sure Masks can be used for psychological control, conversely they can also be a great privacy tool, and I’m happy not to feed Kmart’s facial recognition data. But whatever. These points are obvious. I’m mainly interested in the microbiological technical details of efficacy, and sometimes that will go negative, sure. Do masks with silver impregnated make a difference? Are reused masks dangerous? Can masks be sterilized in the sun, by steam or heat, UVC or is the material damaged? Is their effect on viral load useful now with Omicron, or irrelevant because omicron is lower risk (as far as we know) and may be infectious at lower doses?

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          Bruce

          All this, of course, assumes that the punters are using them correctly, especially in terms of FIT on the face and “service” life
          .

          I have been in HOSPITALS where both patients and staff are required to wear the things, lots of “free-form” fitting in evidence. Also, as they steadily get more soggy from all the earnest exhalations, they become harder to INHALE through; hence, no doubt, the creative “wrinkled” look / 10mm-15mm sized gaps in the chosen fit. Added bonus: What sort of microbial miasma is LIVING in the soggy mask and being breathed right back into the wearer’s mouth / bronchial plumbing?

          In real life, I used to wear serious masks for some jobs. Even after as little as fifteen minuted wearing a REAK mask with correctly chosen and fitted filter cartridges, an interesting phenomenon was clearly apparent. The masks were worn because many of the services voids and ducts were thoughtfully lined with glass fibre which had broken into tiny fragments such that any disturbance raised a fog of spiky little killers. Then there was the interesting dust left by rat droppings in various places. Mike Rowe; come on down!

          Still inside a modern, air-conditioned building, and upon exiting the service voids, the striking thing was the smell of vehicle exhausts, mostly from the steady stream of diesel-powered buses passing about thirty metres from the closed front doors. This was striking for several minutes until the old honker saturated and something else was detected in the air.

          Those who have had the dubious pleasure of wearing Mil. Spec. NBC masks may have experienced similar occurrences. Specialist welders who wear “space-suits hooked up to an external, filtered and chilled air supply have also remarked on the phenomenon.

          Final note:

          Look on the packaging of your masks. It will be MORE than likely that, like most of the RAT kits in circulation, they have been sourced from certain Northern cousins. Go back a year and a bit and check out the story about a HUGE shipment of “N-95” masks shipped to Europe, only to be FAILED at import inspection, with the whole lot being condemned.

          The game rolls on and I leave it to your imagination / powers of deduction as to who is doing what to whom, and who is paying for it.

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          Jojodogfacedboy

          Other than being in a totally enclosed system…
          A nice ripe fart tells you that you’ve just been exposed by another.

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          MrGrimNasty

          But the type of face masks we were all forced to wear were useless or worse.
          Forget about detailed experimental lab science, the real world outcomes demonstrate that fact irrefutably. The UK introduced the mask mandate after the 1st wave had declined to almost nothing, and we all know what happened after that.
          Now you can force people to buy or make masks for a few pence each, but once you start talking about specs. that might actually be effective, no one will buy that.
          So the whole total population mask mandate discussion is pointless.

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            What’s pointless are whole country epidemiology studies. Weak, confounded, no controls. Scientifically useless.

            I am still amazed at how many people outside medical science think those kind of studies are the definitive word on anything.

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              MrGrimNasty

              It’s not about scientific rigour.
              It’s what happens in the real world.

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                MrGrim, you can do better. This is just throwing little scientific rocks into the conversation as a spoiler. The real world may well be a 20 variable uncontrolled experiment but we don’t learn from stupidly low rigor experiments. And you know that. If you want to understand whether a trained doctor using an N95 can reduce infection by 50% you won’t find that out with daft epidemiology studies which conglomerate untrained people at bus-stops wearing a mask-their-mum-made (under their chin) with surgeons working in an ICU.

                Like I said, it’s fine if you hate masks. You don’t have to discuss them. OK?

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                Lucky

                Reply to Jo Nova #2.3.1.5.1

                A question,
                – to understand whether a trained doctor using an N95 can reduce infection by 50% .. ..
                How can this be demonstrated?
                If a mask manufacturer paid for such experiments it would pay off well – if masks worked.
                My temporary assumption is that masking works as well as the vaccines, with lower side effect risks, and similar effectiveness. I am open to evidence.

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                Lucky, it’s easy to imagine a study of ICU surgeons with and without masks. But the big problem is that you can’t convince ICU surgeons to be part of the “no mask” group in an RCT study. They refuse to work in situations where they cannot mask up. The study is ethically doomed never to be done.

                But it tells you something about what well trained front line scientists think whose lives are on the line. It doesn’t prove anything at all, but to be honest, I have little interest in even hunting for good mask studies when there are so many bad ones. I suspect that few exist where people are taught how to use masks, use good masks, and where they have them fitted and fit-tested properly.

                There are so many subjects I want to follow up more.

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                Lucky

                Operating room procedures are set by the surgeon who, as you say, would be conservative in this regard. In general, mask wearing is strictly observed, surgical masks are to protect against flying/squirting body parts and fluids. The masks are never worn past that procedure, and are then discarded. The breathing difficulties may be ameliorated by the room having increased pressure and oxygen.

                That situation has no relevance to forcing mask wearing in everyday life. As explained by yourself and others here, the public do not wear these masks correctly, but there is no such thing as correct wearing.
                My question was on a N95 quality mask fitted and worn by a trained person. Would it reduce infection (compared to)?
                Are there any published studies?
                My opinion is – probably none that show effectiveness.
                Re the everyday surgical masks, there are no good studies showing effectiveness as they are not nor can they be, effective.

                At the core, this is not a subject for data or experiments or trials, this is a matter of bullying, the use of dictatorial power by thugs to satisfy needs to order other people.

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          Ted1.

          If I was given the job of stopping transmission of this virus, i would expect to find that the biggest source of infection is the spittle that flies when people are talking.

          Affordable masks will never score ten out of ten, but most masks would catch most of that.

          I never had to mask up much, but as a medicated asthmatic I found some masks a bit claustrophobic.

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            Lucky

            Actually they do not.
            Spittle when stopped by the mask breaks up, or dries up, so the virus proceeds with negligible delay.

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          MP

          and I won’t force you to wear one.

          That’s good, I won’t have to tell you to Shove One.

          What is that statement supposed to mean?

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      Jojodogfacedboy

      Mainstream Media’s Propaganda became our medical experts by proxy and none of it makes sense from using your noggin.

      So far, body odor and farts haven’t been included even though your nose tells you that you’ve been exposed by that other person.

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      Honk R Smith

      Question from the cheap seats, based on observation from the cheap seats.
      Masks and social distancing, and for that matter medical care at all?
      Here in America at least, most major cities, especially the Democrat run ones, have homeless tent encampments everywhere.
      Hygiene is well, low, masks if present, are low quality and filthy, social distancing is compromised by drug use and schizophrenia.
      They often forget to wear clothes.
      Why did the most dangerous ‘Pandemic’ sine 1347, not wipe these populations out?
      There should have been hazmat squads carting bodies off everyday.

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        Homeless tent encampments probably have better air circulation and ventilation than most five star hotels. And if homeless people are reinfected every three months and slowly accruing heart or lung damage how would we know anyway? PS: Their Vitamin D3 levels might be better — at least in summer — than the average city-goer.

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      UK-Weather Lass

      But The Greens here want masks (aka facial “comfort blankets”) back.

      We have much the same background noise in the UK concerning masks and social distancing. There is no one in positions of leadership actually leading anymore. Are they simply parroting what they have been told will guarantee them survival because to do anything else spells ignominy?

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    John Connor II

    Haters gonna hate. Aussie scientists make safe Hydrogen breakthrough.

    Australian scientists say they’ve made a “eureka moment” breakthrough in gas separation and storage that could radically reduce energy use in the petrochemical industry, while making hydrogen much easier and safer to store and transport in a powder.

    Nanotechnology researchers, based at Deakin University’s Institute for Frontier Materials, claim to have found a super-efficient way to mechanochemically trap and hold gases in powders, with potentially enormous and wide-ranging industrial implications.

    Mechanochemistry is a relatively recently coined term, referring to chemical reactions that are triggered by mechanical forces as opposed to heat, light, or electric potential differences. In this case, the mechanical force is supplied by ball milling – a low-energy grinding process in which a cylinder containing steel balls is rotated such that the balls roll up the side, then drop back down again, crushing and rolling over the material inside.

    The team has demonstrated that grinding certain amounts of certain powders with precise pressure levels of certain gases can trigger a mechanochemical reaction that absorbs the gas into the powder and stores it there, giving you what’s essentially a solid-state storage medium that can hold the gases safely at room temperature until they’re needed. The gases can be released as required, by heating the powder up to a certain point.
    The results are absolutely remarkable from a numbers standpoint. This process, for example, could separate hydrocarbon gases out from crude oil using less than 10% of the energy that’s needed today.

    https://www.deakin.edu.au/about-deakin/news-and-media-releases/articles/tech-breakthrough-could-make-oil-refineries-greener,-hydrogen-safer

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      Eng_Ian

      “This process, for example, could separate hydrocarbon gases out from crude oil using less than 10% of the energy that’s needed today.”

      I wonder what the powders would look like after being soaked in crude oil? Bitumen coated sand and rock in asphalt rarely comes out once it’s mixed in. Even if they are exposed to the volatile fumes from heated oil, they would be sticky black gum balls within seconds. Oil is going to be oil no matter what the models say.

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      Tarquin+Wombat-Carruthers

      So much “certainty”!

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      Hydrogen in the headline, hydrocarbon at the end!!??
      Cheers,
      Dave B

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    John Connor II

    Gender Activists Push To Ban Archeologists Identifying Human Remains As Male or Female

    Woke academics are mounting a campaign to ban archaelogists from identifying human remains as male or female because “scientists cannot know how an ancient individual identified themselves.”

    “Forensic anthropologists have not fully considered the racist context of the criminal justice system in the United States related to the treatment of Black, Indigenous, and People of Color; nor have we considered that ancestry estimation might actually hinder identification efforts because of entrenched racial biases,” Elizabeth DiGangi of Binghamton University and Jonathan Bethard of the University of South Florida wrote in a study released in January.

    “Ancestry estimation contributes to white supremacy,” DiGangi and Bethard wrote, labeling the practice “dangerous.”

    Others have called for changing primate names that were derived from white white men from the northern hemisphere. The activists argue that continuing to use the current names is “perpetuating colonialism and white supremacy.”

    “This is just another attempt to insert a current woke ideology where it doesn’t belong,” Weiss said.

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/gender-activists-push-to-bar-anthropologists-from-identifying-human-remains-as-male-or-female/

    It just gets more INSANE by the day.

    I think Ogg the caveman will have to wait a few ice ages for his gender reassignment surgery. 😅

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    John Hultquist

    Where I live (central Washington State), medical facilities of all types require masks. Retail stores do not. On a recent visit (3 stops) I saw one person with a mask.
    In a clinic waiting room I was near two extremely fat men. We three wore masks (required to be there) and we sat about 15 feet away from each other. None of us showed any sign of illness, except I was extremely glad obesity is not a contagious disease.

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    John Connor II

    This is How You’re Going to End Up Eating the Bugs

    “Is that a regular burger or with meat?” 😨

    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/this-is-how-youre-going-to-end-up-eating-the-bugs/

    Well Oz dodged a bullet the other day better than Neo in The Matrix, with the FMD scare.
    I did say to watch ring countries not just focus on Bali…
    NEXT TIME however we may be following the UK into bug world. Bleh…

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    John Connor II

    Stereotype or reality? 4 in 10 British adults brush their teeth just once a week!

    The stereotype that British people have bad teeth may be more accurate than many think! A new poll finds nearly four in 10 young adults in the country brush less than once a week!

    The survey, conducted by dental accounting company Hive, found that 39 percent of adults between 25 and 34 go a whole week without cleaning their teeth. Over 30 percent of respondents admit they often just forget to brush. Researchers note that their findings confirm the theory that many people often overlook their dental health when they’re focusing on other health issues.

    Not all millennials are dropping the ball on their dental health, as 63 percent of respondents in this age group say they brush at least three times a day. That’s good news because previous studies find that frequently brushing daily lowers the risk of heart failure by 12 percent and atrial fibrillation by 10 percent.

    Younger adults aren’t the only ones slacking off when it comes to dental hygiene. The poll finds 36 percent of adults between 35 and 44 have never used mouthwash! That’s bad news for many Brits on a date, since 36 percent also say they notice someone’s breath when meeting them for the first time.

    https://hivebusiness.co.uk/insights/survey-results-reveal-common-hygiene-habits

    I guess the cartoons and memes were right after all. 😉
    Just think of the plaque and tartar…
    They could get Alzheimer’s!
    Someone should do a post on that! 😅

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      MrGrimNasty

      I decided to brush only once a day many years ago because of horrendous erosion. It certainly slowed the damage and I’ve had no decay since.

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      Honk R Smith

      How do we know the toothbrush was invented by the British?
      Otherwise, it would be called a teethbrush.

      Come on, it’s a good one. 🙂

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    David Maddison

    Arden (NZ PM) is going to introduce a cow tax, supposedly to save the planet from cow [email protected]

    But this is really about the transition from meat to insects (what the Left call “alternative protein”) for non-Elites and the shutdowm of the meat industry.

    No doubt Australia will soon follow.

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      David Maddison

      It’s all happening.

      https://www.csiro.au/en/news/news-releases/2021/an-industry-with-legs-australias-first-edible-insects-roadmap

      An industry with legs: Australia’s first edible insects roadmap

      Australia can become a player in the billion-dollar global edible insect industry, producing nutritious, sustainable, and ethical products to support global food security, according to a new roadmap by Australia’s national science agency, CSIRO.

      [..]

      “Insects have high-value nutritional profiles, and are rich in protein, omega-3 fatty acids, iron, zinc, folic acid and vitamins B12, C and E.

      [..]

      More than 2,100 insect species are currently eaten by two billion people from 130 countries, including 60 native insect species traditionally consumed by First Nations Peoples in Australia. Iconic Australian species include witjuti (also known as witchetty) grubs, bogong moths, honey pot ants and green tree ants.

      [..]

      SEE LINK FOR REST

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      Ross

      I know we love saying cow [email protected] because it makes the whole absurd notion of methane affecting climate so laughable, but technically it is eructation or cow burps where the methane comes from.

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        David Maddison

        True, most of the methane is burped out but it comes out the other end as well, enough to collect as shown in the photo…

        https://bigthink.com/the-present/this-is-how-you-turn-cow-fart-gas-into-energy/

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        Graeme No.3

        D*mn! That makes my new invention – a gas collector for cows – obsolete.
        I wonder if I can reduce the size enough for it to fit a termite.

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          Philip

          ah yes, the termites. But this is written off by greens as the “natural cycle”. The human stuff isn’t. The humans make it “out of balance”. I’m not sure if they ever consider the loss of termites when forest is converted to pastures. Id say probably not. No better way to get rid of termites than turn the land to grass.

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            Eng_Ian

            Well, I’ve never seen a termite consume steel, bitumen or concrete. If we seal all the surfaces of the planet the termites will have no where to go and the world will be a better place. I wonder if I could get a few green/brownie points for that idea?

            /sark

            Then again, in a few weeks time I expect some green idiot will drop the idea onto the MSM desks and expect a round of salutations and the appropriate head nodding that follows.

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              robert rosicka

              Up north the posts are mainly steel because of termites but when they decide to build a nest around the post the acid in their secretions eat through the steel eventually. This came from a guy I knew who worked for power and water at a mine in the Tanamai desert . And no they don’t actually eat the steel..

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        Hanrahan

        Still not the full story. Cattle are ruminants. They developed running out onto the veldt and scoffing copious rubbish grass and retiring to safety among the trees where they regurgitated the coarse grass and quietly chewed their cud with copious saliva. Ever seen a cow chewing its cud? It’s not a pretty sight.

        This pre-digestive system is an effective still.

        But surely this is a short cycle closed system.

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    Robber

    AEMO has some interesting national Electricity and Gas Forecasting charts out to 2050.
    – 50% increase in electricity consumption
    – 12% of demand by 2050 will be electric vehicles
    – No change in gas consumption
    They also have an interactive gas supply map showing gas flows across the AEMO network.
    – NSW being supplied from SA and Vic, nothing from Qld.
    – Vic sending gas to SA
    – Iona in the Otways is the only storage facility.

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      David Maddison

      So where do they claim the electricity is going to come from with no coal, gas or nuclear power stations?

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        yarpos

        They dont sully the discussion with such tawdry concepts as generation. Its all about demand and consumption. As someone here said here a few days ago its like they just expect that in a few years magic will happen.

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    John Connor II

    Electricity for electric cars will soon be more expensive than petrol

    So far, German owners of electric cars have come through the energy crisis relatively unscathed. But that could change. Wholesale prices on the Leipzig electricity exchange EEX reached a new record of 319 euros per megawatt hour at the end of last week. This means that they have more than tripled since the beginning of the year.

    Within the last three weeks alone, the price on the exchanges for a kilowatt hour rose from 22 to now 31 cents. That is an increase of 41 percent and should not be confused with consumer prices. These are significantly higher. Even the abolition of the EEG levy of 3,7 cents could not stop the mega-inflation. And this rise has not really spilled over into prices at charging stations yet.

    Individual providers such as Hamburg Energie already announced in June, i.e. before the new inflation shock, that they would increase prices by more than 60 percent.

    https://freewestmedia.com/2022/07/14/electricity-for-electric-cars-will-soon-be-more-expensive-than-petrol/

    Well, let’s see now. My REX gets 7l/100kms (driven carefully 😆) so that’s $14 per 100kms at $2/l 95RON.
    Converting Euros to AUD and applying their costs an EV “fillup” would cost more like $32.
    No thanks.

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      Dennis

      Australian State Governments are already discussing how to recover fuel tax revenue as electric vehicle registrations increase compared to internal combustion engine vehicles on the roads.

      Add to this the replacement cost of an EV battery pack and trade-in valuation of EV taking battery condition into account as operating expenses.

      I wonder how many prospective EV buyers consider the difference in price and how much liquid fuel and vehicle servicing that premium price represents before they begin to save money?

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        David Maddison

        In Vicdanistan there is a km tax on EVs to make up for lost petrol revenue. No doubt it will increase as the state becomes more bankrupt, but not until after the November election which will see Comrade Dictator Dan re-elected.

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          robert rosicka

          Our Glorious leader might be rotten to the core but he is less green than the liberal alternative, looks like it’s liberal democrats who will get a lot of lib votes putting Dangerous Dan back in .

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        Chad

        This TEDtalk gives an interesting perspective on EVs vs ICE carbon “footprint”.
        Basicly concludes that EVs produce more CO2, than ICEs for the first 250-300k kms !
        Ignor the chatter about climate change etc, and forward to the results.
        https://youtu.be/S1E8SQde5rk

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      yarpos

      Clearly more subsidies are needed. Quick! tax something!

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      Lucky

      A carefully driven REX! 7L/100k. Go to the back of the line.
      I bid 12L/100k at 98RON.

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    David Maddison

    The 1973 movie “Soylent Green” was set in the far future of 2022.

    We are heading the way of the movie.

    https://youtu.be/N_jGOKYHxaQ

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    John Connor II

    Robot dog learns to walk in an hour after scientists build ‘virtual spinal cord’

    STUTTGART, Germany — A robot dog with reflexes that teach it how to walk in an hour has been built by scientists. Researchers in Germany say the canine creation, called Morti, learns to walk quickly because it makes good use of its virtual spinal cord.

    The German team built the fast-learning four-legged friend in a bid to find out more about how animals in nature learn to walk. Animals are born with muscle coordination networks in their spinal cord but learning precisely how to use their leg muscles and tendons can take time.

    Morti’s pattern generators are simulated on a small and lightweight computer that controls the motion of the robot’s legs. This virtual spinal cord is placed on the quadruped robot’s back where the head would be. During the hour it takes for the robot to walk smoothly, sensor data from the robot’s feet are continuously compared with the expected touch-down predicted by the robot’s pattern generator.

    If the robot stumbles, the algorithm changes how far the legs swing back and forth, how fast the legs swing, and how long a leg is on the ground. As the robot learns, the pattern generator sends adapted motor signals so it stumbles less and learns how to walk.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-022-00505-4

    Now you’re getting it!
    Robotics needs to mimic animal learning and not just operate from rigid motion control algorithms.

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      Foyle

      Check out state of the art virtual neural net robot training, there has been dramatic improvement in last few years. Once the hardware is available the robots are going to be scarily capable.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kV-rZZw50Q

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      Dennis

      I wonder if virtual spinal cords could be created for politicians?

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      Chris

      John that is very interesting. Horses and probably other big herbivores have a ‘central pattern generator’ which can be likened to a junction box at the base of the neck which coordinates the order of the legs movement. It is independent from the brain. However if you want to train a horse that is a pacer ( legs move parallel two left legs then two right legs, to become a trotter which is cross gaited left front /right hind then the horse has to think his way through the exercise. This becomes a skill that he learns rather than doing what comes naturally through genetics.

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      another ian

      It seems that a friend of our boys has a new John Deere tractor that has shut down due to a “code that JD doesn’t know what it means”.

      I guess to be expected if you let artificial intelligence design the software?

      More when I know more about it

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        Chad

        J D have come under fire from many directions for their “smart tractors” that need a special JD service tech open the hood or check the oil level.
        Traditional “ fix all” farmers are bery pi55ed off.

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    David Maddison

    In Australia I anticipate food, fuel and electricity shortages as per the plan. I therefore just bought a camping-style refrigerator/freezer which is sufficiently low powered and efficient to run off a solar panel and battery…

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      Dennis

      Caravan refrigerators that can be switched between 240v, 12v and LPG are not expensive and are available in various storage capacities.

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      Philip

      At one stage I was going to use one of them as my fridge for off grid housing.

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        Greg in NZ

        A lot of folk here in the Far North have roof-solar fridge-freezers in their 4×4 utes & trucks, often to compliment their off-grid capacity, more often to keep the beer cold until enough fish are caught.

        Don’t think Crazy Cindy & her band of merry pranksters have outlawed eating fish yet. 5, 4, 3, 2…

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      Broadie

      David,
      – and a solar regulator and fuses!

      You better add a generator and then re-read Jo’s post on wood gas, then buy a wood chipper, then plant a copse to coppice, then you will need hot water and heat so a solar hot water system with a wood heating back up will do the job. A wind turbine is a great addition as it provides power when you don’t need it but augments the larder with fresh bird and bat kills.

      The beauty is we will have timeto run and maintain all this alternative technology and have a game of scrabble as we will not have social media or TV.

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      robert rosicka

      David our 230 litre fridge freezer is claiming 69watt and can run on 240 / 24 or 12 volt , haven’t verified the consumption yet as it’s still in the crate .

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    John Connor II

    Thursday funny – liberals at the beach

    https://i0.wp.com/clownuniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/83C4BE35-111F-4909-895C-DB597A92001A.webp

    Meanwhile in the USA, 98% of parents with kids under 5 have ignored the CDC’s clotshot recommendation.
    The Covidcirclejerk is losing effectiveness…

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    David Maddison

    I’m sure the French Ambassador was highly impressed with this pair.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/bidens-trans-health-official-non-binary-puppy-fetish-doe-worker-make-splash-at-ambassadors-party

    Biden’s Trans Health Official, ‘Non-Binary’ Puppy Fetish Department of Energy Worker Make Splash At Ambassador’s Party

    By  Greg Wilson

    Jul 17, 2022   DailyWire.com

    Two members of the Biden administration, transgender Assistant Health Secretary Rachel Levine and “non-binary” Department of Energy official Sam Brinton, made a splash at a party at the French ambassador’s home Thursday.

    Brinton, who dresses in drag and has boasted online about his puppy role-play fetish, wore a blue dress and high heels. Levine, who Biden elevated from Pennsylvania health secretary to health “admiral” despite a highly controversial handling of COVID lockdowns, wore a uniform with a skirt and heels.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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      Greg in NZ

      Now THAT’S how you storm the Bastille, thweety…

      (Get me a bucket, I’m gonna be thick).

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    el+gordo

    On the Saharan heatwave, the final image clearly shows it had nothing to do with global warming.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/07/20/hump-day-hilarity-eu-smack-in-the-face-heatwave-edition/

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    David Maddison

    The 2005 movie V for Vendetta is worth revisiting.

    https://screenrant.com/v-for-vendetta-movie-2020-virus-protests-example/

    Part of what keeps the fascistic government of V For Vendetta’s 1980s Britain in power is a pandemic. A disease known as St. Mary’s Virus has ravaged Europe and killed over 100,000 people by the time the film starts. It is later revealed that the virus was an act of biological warfare by Creedy, the leader of the ruling Norsefire Party…

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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      John Connor II

      We need some more good virus/plague movies like Outbreak/28 Days Later/28 Weeks Later/Doomsday/World War Z etc.
      My movie archive goes back to 1905 but my memory’s too good so I remember them too well 😑
      Movies now are largely rubbish…

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    Zane

    It’s going to be a long hard road back to sanity. I was just in the post office to pay a water bill and saw their PR schtick that ” Australia Post is committed to ensuring carbon neutral parcel delivery “. This was the screen wallpaper on their Eftpos terminal at the counter.

    Zero carbon, carbon neutral, renewable, sustainable, recyclable, etc. All organizations must drink the Kool aid and follow the agenda.

    There is no escape from the green matrix.

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      Gary S

      Except that their parcels are manufactured from felled trees, plastic bubble wrap and sticky plastic tape, all manufactured in high energy input factories powered by fossil fuels, just like their vehicles.

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      Graeme No.3

      Zane:
      Who wants to be sane? Not politicians like in Germany where they won’t buy gas from Russia and are worried about the coming winter so they are trying to set up Warm Places e.g. Town Halls where people feeling the cold can go for a few hours. What do they do for the other 20 hours? And they are restarting brown coal stations and chopping down forests to install more turbines.
      Italy has embraced the EU position and won’t buy Russian gas either; instead they are restarting a coal-fired power station. And the coal they’re buying? Comes from Russia.
      In the UK they expect to get lots of nuclear after 2030 or 2035 thanks to Sizewell C getting the go-ahead. They have also an order in with Rolls Royce who want to install lots of small nuclear reactors which would be unnecessary if Sizewell C starts up.
      In Texas the electricity Trust supposedly in charge of keeping electricity going, is asking people to NOT use electricity during the heatwave (the last 2 blackouts were during cold spells.
      In California they are importing lots of electricity from other States (at considerable expense) while closing hydroelectric down and nuclear as well (in the name of reducing ‘carbon emissions’).
      And Victoria, with lots of coal, uranium, wood and natural gas wants to drastically reduce the use of coal, NOT Use the second & third and is running out of the last (n Victoria), so instead of using the KNOWN sources they want to ration the public, while banning gas use in new homes and paying people to cut off their gas supply.
      It would drive Lewis Carroll round the bend trying to satirise them.

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      Ross

      Zane, Australia Post have been running with TV ads for weeks now, depicting a postman delivering the mail in his new electric carbon neutral powered cart. They love a good virtual signal as much as the next government department. So much better than the old Honda motorbikes which were obviously contributing to the bushfires. Next, the army will be advertising solar powered tanks, the navy will be reinstalling sails on our new fleet of frigates. I’m waiting for the Commfleet of ministerial vehicles to all go electric very soon, but I would much rather all the politicians were asked to ride bikes to parliament house.

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        Philip

        Id dare say the motorbike would be more efficient than the electric buggy. If not there wouldn’t be much difference. Those 110cc engines don’t drink much fuel. I dont really see the need to improve on that.

        If governments were serious about reducing fuel use and cost for the consumer, they’d offer incentive like free rego for small cc motorcycles. The technology is already there. A modern water cooled fuel injected electronic ignition motorcycle engine is incredibly reliable and practical. But no, they prefer to hope you buy a 100K electric sports car.

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      yarpos

      Many years ago APost was also on the cusp of drone delivery , when that was trendy. I cant remember which one of the train of useless showponies was on that bandwagon.

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        ghl

        Remember when Auspost raised letter price from 47c to $1, under Turnbull, just before successive highly paid CEOs all swore they were not considering privatisation.
        I wonder what they are doing with all that money now.
        Probably similar place to the $100000000 from unredeemed bottles in NSW.

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      Skeptocynic

      Australia Post is committed to ensuring carbon neutral parcel delivery

      Yet the mail is delivered from the capital city to each town by a diesel truck.
      From the Town Post Office the mail gets delivered to, and collected from the LPO’s in petrol and diesel vans.

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    Brenda Spence

    It’s world ivermectin day this Saturday thanks to Dr Tess Lawrie and friends.

    https://worldivermectinday.org/

    This link has a good outline showing how IVM works on a virus. Very interesting.

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    CDC Stops Reporting Cruise Ship COVID Outbreaks

    “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will no longer report COVID outbreaks on cruise ships. Per the CDC’s website:

    “As of July 18, 2022, CDC’s COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships is no longer in effect. CDC will continue to publish guidance to help cruise ships continue to provide a safer and healthier environment for passengers, crew and communities going forward.”
    Clearly, this is an attempt to hide the fact that the vaccinated are spreading and contracting COVID, possibly more frequently than the unvaccinated. Nearly all cruise liners have required staff and passengers to be “fully vaccinated” before boarding. Yet, there are countless stories of COVID outbreaks on ships with 100% vaccination rates. So the cruise industry lost over $63 billion between 2020 and 2021 for absolutely no reason.

    The CDC still recommends that vacationers take a COVID test before boarding and adhere to all their guidelines. The agency now claims that the liners simply have access to their guidance and they no longer need to control the situation. In reality, they cannot explain why ships containing fully vaccinated passengers and staff are experiencing outbreaks.

    Answer: THE VACCINE DOES NOT WORK!

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/cdc-to-stop-reporting-on-cruise-ship-covid-outbreaks/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

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    John Connor II

    WEF agenda. Real or fake. You decide. Try not to panic.

    https://oculumlabs.com/facts-about-each-csrq-sm-class/

    Either way it won’t be far off the mark.

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    another ian

    “Labor to reopen parliament with ridiculous Climate Change Bill”

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/07/labor-to-reopen-parliament-with-ridiculous-climate-change-bill.html

    This might help

    “During his opening monologue tonight, Fox News host Tucker Carlson outlined the background of Joe Biden’s “climate emergency”, and the hypocrisies of their theories as compared to their behavior.

    https://youtu.be/j_Z8k1IAwgY

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/07/21/tucker-carlson-outlines-the-current-background-of-joe-bidens-climate-emergency/

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    John Connor II

    Destructive tornado outbreak hits Jiangsu Province, China

    A severe weather outbreak hit China’s Jiangsu Province on July 20, 2022, producing at least 5 tornadoes and leaving significant damage. The number of confirmed tornadoes is expected to rise as more information comes in.

    A violent killer tornado hit Xiangshui, Yancheng City during the afternoon hours (LT), completely destroying brick houses, downing high tension towers, and tangling motorcycles around trees.

    “Unfortunately, we’ve heard injuries and fatalities,” said Eric Wang, Chinese extreme weather enthusiast.

    The Jiangsu weather bureau rated it as an EF-3 . This tornado was spawned by the same parent supercell as the Guannan tornado, which damaged/destroyed more than 650 homes.

    https://watchers.news/2022/07/20/destructive-tornado-outbreak-hits-jiangsu-province-china/

    Adding to their woes…

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    John Connor II

    September cometh…

    This is a forecast I have no desire to make. But 2023 is going to be the Year from Hell. I cannot stress strongly enough that our model is targeting 2023 for the beginning of serious geopolitical events. However, when we look at the Array on the Dow, it shows that volatility would rise from 2022 and build into 2032.

    The Fed is still trapped in old theories and everyone and Larry Summers will blame the Fed for not neutralizing inflation ad they spend like crazy, wage wars, and shut down fossil fuels. Raising interest rates will NOT stop this insane inflation deliberately set in motion by these stupid climate change zealots.

    Via Martin A.

    People look to politicians to solve our problems but it is the politicians that have CAUSED them.
    Those that have failed to prepare by this stage are in for some very rude shocks in a matter of weeks.

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    David Maddison

    I just finished taking part in a clinical trial involving a monoclonal antibody that blocks interleukin 13. I was discouraged from continuing as my results were considered only marginal.

    In retrospect, I think the reason that I was discouraged from continuing was that my results were not as good as hoped, even though there was a definite improvement.

    Fundamentally, I think I was deleted as a “bad” data point so that the remaining results would seem better so they would have a better chance of getting regulatory approval.

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      David, that sounds very dodgy indeed.

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        David Maddison

        I’m sure it’s how they run all clinical trials these days, Jo. Perfectly consistent with Robert F. Kennedy’s book.

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      Strop

      Was the discouragement successful?

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      A clinical trial will have ethics approval that you can ask to view, which will state how they proceed with clinical feedback data. For instance, they might have a target rate of improvement that if not met they stop based on an assessment of risk. ie the risks from the drug/treatment itself as much as is known (and with consideration that much is not known and might be detrimental) outweigh an argument to continue unless the benefit reaches a threshold.

      As they get more data as the trial continues they will revise the protocols that the ethics approval was based on.

      Trials these days jump more hoops and have more data transparency than in the past.

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        Serp

        Ah, moving the goal posts.

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          The goal remains testing the efficacy and safety of a new drug/procedure. Changing parameters when more information comes to hand enhances this by broadening and focusing (yes, both are possible) to capture more information. Also, not adjusting once new information comes to hand is potentially dangerous.

          Finally, if that is the definition of moving the goal posts then vive la moving the goal posts! Science can’t proceed any other way.

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    John Connor II

    NYU School of Law Report: Global Digital ID System ‘Paving a Digital Road to Hell’

    In mid-June, the Center for Human Rights and Global Justice, a “hub for human rights study” at New York University (NYU) School of Law, issued a 100-page report detailing the growing dangers of a reliance on digital identity around the world. The report, titled Paving a Digital Road to Hell?, examines the role of the World Bank and other international networks which have been promoting the use if digital ID in recent years.

    The report notes that the World Bank has been “energetically promoting biometric and other digital ID systems that are increasingly linked to large-scale human rights violations, especially in the Global South.”

    The report details how the promoters of the new digital/economic identity model often evade “difficult questions” about the legal status and rights of those being registered. Despite promises of inclusion and flourishing digital economies, digital ID systems have “consistently failed to deliver on these promises in real-world situations, especially for the most marginalized.” The Aadhaar system itself has been criticized for severe and large-scale human rights violations.

    https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/digitalhell/

    Report link:
    https://chrgj.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Report_Paving-a-Digital-Road-to-Hell.pdf

    The obvious elephant in the room is the centralisation of a global population database. Oh what a hacking target it would make. The ramifications of a hack could shutdown everything everywhere INSTANTLY.
    With no alternatives (like cash) it would become Great Reset #2…

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    Just received my gas bill for the last qtr in the Canberra bubble. I use gas for 6★ ducted heating and instantaneous hot water. I converted the gas MJ used to kWh for a direct cost comparison. There will be some differences in efficiencies of the two energy systems, but I was just looking at the direct MJ→kWh equivalent cost difference.

    The gas MJ’s consumed were 50% cheaper than the equivalent electrical kWh’s.

    But then again, if the claimed “300%-600%” heat conversion efficiency of heat pumps (1kw of energy in, 3-6kW of energy out) is true, I might be on a losing system. Just seems a little too good to be true – can any realist here on this blog explain how this is possible?

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      David Maddison

      Heat pumps don’t generate heat but simply transfer it. If you are heating the interior you transfer heat from the outside by making the outside colder and the inside hotter.

      Heat won’t spontaneously transfer from a cold reservoir (outside) to a hot reservoir (inside) but it can be made to do so with the addition of work which is what the heat pump does. The energy used for the work performed is much less than the equivalent energy of the heating effected by the heat pump, usually by a factor of about three.

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        Thanks DM
        So for a 1kW input (which is about 3.6MJ), I would get 3.6×3=10.8MJ equivalent output?

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          David Maddison

          Yes. Correct.

          Also, with gas ducted heating, they won’t be 100% efficient because some heat will be lost in the exhaust but I understand that with modern systems with secondary heat exchangers very high efficiencies of over 85% are achievable.

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            Thanks again DM

            Seems to be a valid alternative, even after seeing cost estimates of 10K+ for a ducted system. Then I came across this USA site:

            Heat pump systems offer an efficient alternative to central air conditioners and other heating systems by providing conditioned air at approximately one quarter of the cost. They provide not only heat to a home, but can also can be used to cool a home and control humidity. Heat pumps are most popular in southern regions where winters are mild and the summers are hot. Areas of the country subjected to prolonged winters and subfreezing temperatures are not ideal for this type of system.

            This site also had a “heating square footage range by climate zone”, where the warmest climate zone only needed half the heat pump capacity of the coldest zone if using an air source system. It’s a good system if you are a coastal dweller.

            Here in the Canberra cold bubble, will stick with the gas for the time being, and the evaporative cooler which I have only turned on a couple of times over the last 2 years just to make sure it still works.

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          David Maddison

          In Melbournistan I have heat pump heating and to heat a three story house I find that – once it’s up to temp – I can maintain it at 22C with outside temp about 7-10C with 1.1kW.

          However yesterday it got to 1C outside and the system was pulling about 5kW. This morning with same outside temp it was 4kW but outside it may have been warmer for longer overnight.

          If I let the house cool down, turning the system on again will firstly consume about 6kW for about an hour then 4kW for a couple of hours and it takes about 12 hrs to stabilise down to 1.1kW or so as the entire contents of the house and the house structure itself heat up. I therefore just leave the system running 24/7 unless I go away for multiple days. Double glazed windows help a lot.

          I find it is much cheaper than the ducted gas I used to use which also heated unevenly on different floors and in different rooms and was also probably not installed very well.

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            Excellent information David – thanks.

            Sounds like you can’t really run it on batteries during the coldest periods. One of the coldest times I have experienced was in the Dandenongs during one winter when the power went out for a couple of days. The ducted gas, which really is only a fan drawing 500-1,000 watts, could not be run from a camping style ff generator or even a big battery as these fan motors need a bonded neutral. So I am in the process of getting an isolation switch installed on my incoming power so that I can run parts of the house (using its bonded neutral with earth leakage setup) from a battery or genset – especially the heater.

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        Hanrahan

        I may be getting heat pumps and heat pipes mixed – we use neither here – but weren’t heat pipes touted as a passive way to get heat from the earth into your floor?

        The reason I remember is because they were used to distribute the heat from oil in the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System THROUGH the permafrost to the deeper earth. Any who can’t remember that can be excused, that was nearly 50 years ago.

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          From what I have read, there are “geothermal” options for heat pumps where you draw the air through buried pipes in the ground which provides the unit with a stable air temp – cooler in summer and warmer in winter (not in a permafrost zone though). The Geoscience Australia building in Canberra runs on such a system as follows:

          air conditioning incorporating a geothermal heat pump system which consists of 210 individual packaged units throughout the building and a ground loop system of 350 pipes to use the Earth as a heat sink or heat source at different times of the year. The geothermal air conditioning system provides significant energy savings from equipment, lighting and air conditioning as well as allowing the system to be operated only when an area of the building is occupied

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            KP

            We get snow here in NSW and the 2-way heat pump struggles when the temperatures get too high or too low. They can’t extract heat from a very cold outside in winter, and they can’t pump heat outside into a very hot day in summer.

            Not that much use in a lot of inland Aussie I’d expect.

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              yarpos

              I guess without getting specific about units, age and temps and building info its hard to know about general applicability.

              We have operated ours from -5C to 42C without problems (more usually -2C to 38C). Units less than 10 years old and a well insulated house.

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          David Maddison

          Heat pumps cam be as simple as a “split system” air conditioner. Make sure they both heat and cool which is standard these days anyway and it is an “inverter” type.

          Also, if it has “DRED” which lets the power utility or government control the unit remotely, tell the installer not to connect that “feature”.

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        Kalm Keith

        It’s just a reversed refrigerator, but with a heat pump you save the warm air and get rid of the unwanted cold stuff.

        Intuitively I suspect, expensive.

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        Kevin Kilty

        Heat pumps do generate some heat (electric motor loss plus the electrical work converted to heat), but you are correct that the greater effect is the heat they gather from the environment of the evaporator and then transfer into the home using the work the electric motor provides. The ratio of heat made available to the home to work consumed is known as the coefficient of performance (COP) and it is a function of the temperature difference between the inside of the home and the environment where the evaporator gathers heat. This means the heat pump has varying effectiveness depending on season (works less well in cold season). In the USA our heat pumps are labeled not by COP but what is called a seasonally adjusted energy effectiveness.

        I have owned two heat pumps in different homes. When natural gas prices were high (we were paying $9 per dekatherm at one time) I could save money by using the heat pump in the “shoulder seasons” of fall and spring when outside air was not much colder than the inside home. However, there were effects that made heat pump heated air less comfortable than air heated with natural gas. The heat pump won’t deliver air out the plenum nearly as hot as gas heated air. So, a cold house takes much longer to heat-up to temperature, and the moving air delivered from the plenum is not as comfortably warm as gas heated air either. Also, my heat pumps used air rather than ground temperature, and when the air was suitably humid my heat pump would have to use its available heat to shed ice on the evaporator coils. Works better in dry/mild climates. They take a bit of thought to use effectively.

        By the way, a fellow I knew in Wyoming built a new home in a neighborhood not serviced with gas. He was talked into installing resistance heat in the home. Lordy…his heating bills in January were $1,200 per month. I advised him to use the still-open floor joists to deliver forced air throughout the home and install a heat pump. His bills dropped by a factor of four. Not cheap by any means but way better than resistance heat.

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    David Maddison

    Getting the sclera of the eye (white part) tattooed is all the rage however I think it is quite freaky, renders one unemployable in most jobs, is dangerous and it can’t be removed. It is typically done all in one colour so the entire eyeball looks black or some other colour.

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    DD

    PragerU video on the impracticality of wind and solar:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    Our politicians call it ‘Nationalism’ which they dislike immensely for this alliances and elegance system where they don’t have to make any decisions by just following the globalization plan.

    https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2022/07/20/putin-predicts-revolutionary-changes-in-the-world

    The death of the US Dollar will be massive as they’ve distributed trillions of them worldwide including the stock market.

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    Zane

    From my local free paper:-

    ” The Surf Coast Shire’s corporate operations for the 2021-22 financial year have been certified as carbon neutral, a key objective of its Climate Emergency Corporate Response Plan. ”

    Picture of solar panels on roof of council offices.

    The shire also states it ” is collaborating with the Barwon South West Climate Alliance to investigate the establishment of local offset projects…”

    There are those mythical ” offsets ” again which a poster above assured me did not exist. Like the Loch Ness monster?

    However, some cheerier news on page 11. Beach Energy has drilled 7 new gas wells offshore in the Otway Basin. Two wells are already producing, four more will be online by mid-2023, and one is in pre-feed stage – a toddler, so to speak.

    All gas is being fed into the eastern gas market for domestic use.

    Yay! Gas!

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    Joao Martins

    BEWARE!

    New “pandemic” being concocted by the WHO!

    “WHO to decide on sounding highest alarm on monkeypox
    The World Health Organization will reconvene its expert monkeypox committee on Thursday (21 July) to decide whether the outbreak now constitutes a global health emergency — the highest alarm it can sound.”

    See: https://www.euractiv.com/section/health-consumers/news/who-to-decide-on-sounding-highest-alarm-on-monkeypox/

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      Hanrahan

      Peak absurdity will be reached when we they introduce monkeypox mandates before you can visit Mum in the home.

      When would a bathhouse STD become a threat to our elders in a home?

      They are certainly trying hard to lock us up again.

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    el+gordo

    Australia’s Federal Parliament will soon resume and the climate wars will begin in ernest. Over in the UK the zealots are losing.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/07/20/uk-high-court-net-zero-policy-violates-the-climate-change-act/

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    DOC

    When this all began, the maestros of the climate game blessed WOOD burning as GREEN. So many of their population burned it you see, so that kept everything gentle.

    When the EU ran short of gas by cutting off Russian supplies so the EU wasn’t funding the Ukraine war and any extension of that to themselves, the maestros declared GAS clean.

    When world gas supplies prove inadequate, with golden prices, I’m waiting for the EU to declare COAL Green.

    When Sri Lanka showed living ‘organically’ doesn’t work for large populations, they tend to starve when China has depleted their bank accounts. I’m waiting for synthetic fertilisers made from
    GAS to be declared GREEN. It’s logical!

    When European farmers obey the edicts to knock off 90% of their ruminants to stop farting methane and people starve because battery propelled tractors and harvesters can’t work long enough – or their big Lithium batteries decide to fart with big explosions occasionally, I expect methane will be diagnosed as having a short half life and was really GREEN all the time. In fact even the most deeply propagandised 50 year old with 50years of climate propaganda behind his ears, will at that stage smell methane or a rat and have a rethink.

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    David Maddison

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/joe-biden-says-he-has-cancer-in-awkward-speech-slip-up/news-story/804d2d16bd36af9a8cbae81430f9d321

    Joe Biden says he has cancer in awkward speech slip up

    Joe Biden said that he has “cancer” during a speech on Wednesday, in the latest awkward slip of the tongue from the US President.

    Frank Chung July 21, 2022

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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    Graeme#4

    Rex Aviation are saying that they want to eventually switch to electric planes. Will be interesting, since the max takeoff weight of a 737 is around 175 tonnes, but to match the energy from a full load of jet fuel, the plane would require around 780 tonnes of batteries.

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      KP

      I’ll believe that crap when the military actually field electric-powered weapons like tanks and fighter jets.. The pathway there is not even on the horizon currently.

      I’ve got a feeling we are being forced into poorly-performing electric vehicles so the oil can be reserved for military/politics/the rich..

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        TdeF

        Wait till they tax electric vehicles. The way they did diesel cars in France the government insisted everyone buy to save the environment. It will be called a reform because electric vehicles are currently paying no road taxes, no excise and gobbling cheap domestic power. This holiday will end suddenly. But if you can afford a Tesla, you can afford it.

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          Dennis

          Daily Telegraph motoring section today, a letter ….. “I own a plug in electric vehicle (PHEV) and as it’s registered in Vitcoria I am required to pay a distance-based road user charge each year. The current charge is 2.1c/km for PHEVs and 2.6c/km for EVs …………..”

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        Yonason

        Funny how they cancel the electric stuff that might work, and embrace electric stuff that certainly won’t.

        Looks like the common thread here appears to be failure, as opposed to electricity.

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      Hanrahan

      The elephant in the room for electric commercial aviation is that their takeoff weight equals their landing weight.

      Even those with just a passing interest in flying machines could see the problem here.

      ATM there is an application for EA in aeroclub operations where each flight is short with time in between flights and their own dedicated charge point.

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      Caltrop

      Planes run on compressed air, not jet fuel.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWPiMZOig2I

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      Grogery

      They’ll also have to allow for the weight of the massive diesel generator to charge to batteries on long flights.

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      yarpos

      Certain things need to said to certain people so that certain contracts remain viable and that certain amounts of money appear in the right places and the right time. You don’t have to believe it, you just have to say it or sign it. Dance to the ESG Warp agaaiinnn!! We are all becoming Elon Musk.

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    Rudolph Hucker

    What’s the snowfall been like in Australia?
    Here’s an Electroverse article on things getting colder.
    https://electroverse.co/south-america-snow-extent-at-all-time-highs-a-forerunner-for-the-coming-northern-hemisphere-winter/

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      Graeme No.3

      There has been plenty of snow in the mountains.
      It is probably the Bureau of Meteorology doesn’t want to be reminded of their prediction in 2012 that would be the last good year for skiing.
      “2012 Enjoy snow now, by 2020 it will be gone
      Environmental Researchers say the end of Australia’s ski culture is in sight, despite one of the best snow seasons in a decade
      The Australian Sept 5, 2012”

      Australia generally has been cool. All-Time Cold Records Fall In Australia http://www.lavoisier.com.au

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    TdeF

    The White House Climate adviser is Gina McCarthy.

    This is her education: University of Massachusetts Boston 1976 Bachelor of Arts degree in Social Anthropology, Tufts University Master of Science combining Environmental Health Engineering with Planning and Policy in 1981. Where’s the science?

    So we have a social anthropologist with a Master of Science degree against Dr. Tim Flannery, a BA in English and a Science PhD as a sort of prehistoric zoologist of animals exclusive to Australia. It is why ‘Climate Science’ has no science at all. And all computers are right, no matter how they are programmed. What’s a graph again?

    And Gina says the President will move fast on the Climate Emergency.

    What emergency?

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    MrGrimNasty

    The CET data for the hottest day is in, the most scientifically rigorous temperature record we have for the UK.
    The max and mean temps were clear all time records, min not quite.
    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/graphs/2022/daily_maxtemp_cet_2022.png
    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/graphs/2022/daily_meantemp_cet_2022.png
    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/graphs/2022/daily_mintemp_cet_2022.png

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      MrGrimNasty

      Forgot to say, it reached a max of 37.3C

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        TdeF

        And the top of the graph, never exceeded is 40C.

        So the record goes to Russia “GENEVA, 14 December 2021 (WMO) – A temperature of 38°C (100.4°F) in the Russian town of Verkhoyansk on 20 June 2020 has been recognized as a new Arctic temperature record by the World Meteorological Organization”

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      John B

      This is where the record was set. At Coningsby RAF base. Right next to the runway.

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        MP

        If you can go to whomever records off that station and look at the actual data points it may be like here in Aus.
        Around the year 2000 we changed from the liquid slower reacting type to digital, which read every second, that second is then the highest for that 5 minutes, which is the highest for the hour thus the day.
        Someone on here did a review of stations around QLD and showed these 1 second spikes were the max for the entire day, thus record breaking hot weather.
        It is one big con, everything every day.

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        another ian

        I saw a mention that they do afterburner take offs there to help

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        Hanrahan

        If using a mercury thermometer that probably wouldn’t matter but an electronic one would read brief upticks.

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    TdeF

    And it goes to show that in every country there is one place at least where the combination of variables of wind direction, shade, eddies means that it is momentarily the hottest place in the country. And that automatically becomes the country’s record temperature. It only takes on thermometer on one rooftop for an instant to observe Climate Change. So much for the weather not being Climate. A single thermometer does not even describe the weather but is a harbinger of dreaded man made instantaneously proven Global Warming, not randomness.

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    Caltrop

    I presume that the Earths average temperature stays constant despite extreme temperature variations in some regions.

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      John B

      Latest Global anomaly map shows a +0.03 degree C over the average from 1979-2000 mean at Climate Reanalyzer. Link
      I think the world will survive.

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      Yonason

      Yes.

      Earth avg temp/CO2 for the last ~6 million years
      https://ontariolandowners.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/timball-pic1-052016.png

      Basically we are barely out of an ice age, so even if avg temp did go up, that would be far better than if it were to go down.

      Also from that graph you can see that…
      1. CO2 correlation to temp has never been demonstrated.
      2. Never have we ever had runaway temperature, regardless of postulated cause(s).

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        el+gordo

        One Antarctic ice core showed CO2 lagged temperatures by 1400 years.

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          Yonason

          Yes. While there isn’t any long term (tens of thousands of years or longer) correlation, there does seem to be short term (geologically speaking) correlation; but, as you write, it goes the wrong way. Temps go up before CO2 does. And still they keep trying to gaslight us into thinking that CO2 is the cause.

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    Gabriel Pentelie

    Today, Australia’s cumulative COVID cases-per-million rate reached that of the UK: 346,000 (having had already surpassed Italy’s a month ago and that of the U.S.’s in early May). Related: New Zealand’s rate surpassed that of the U.S. in late June, and that of much-maligned Sweden’s in early June.

    What you, dear English-speaking antipodean cousins, allowed your leaders to do to you in the pursuit of Safety over Freedom over the past couple of years has been quite dispiriting to behold.

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2022-01-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=AUS~USA~NZL~SWE~GBR~ITA

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      MP

      “What you, dear English-speaking antipodean cousins, allowed your leaders to do to you in the pursuit of Safety over Freedom over the past couple of years has been quite dispiriting to behold.”

      I am living in this fear porn driven society, clown country. We cannot be beaten into submission enough to satisify the majority, they cannot give enough of your freedoms away.
      We do these things to ourselves.

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      That same data set shows Australia’s deaths/million is 208, Italy 2873 and UK 2701. Sounds like you antipodeans are 10x less safe.

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        Gabriel Pentelie

        Australia’s was 208, back on March 4. It has doubled since then, and currently stands at 425. Which, of course, results in a “less safe” ratio that is substantially lower than 10: about 6.5 as of today. I highly suspect that said ratio will continue to go down apace. A year from now, I highly suspect, the gap will have narrowed into near-insignificance (especially when looked at in absolute risk terms).

        IOW, all that Australia managed to do is postpone the inevitable reckoning with this virus for a year and a half or so. While isolating yourselves from the rest of the world (leaving thousands of your citizens stranded abroad) and from your neighboring provincial/territorial fellow citizens, “housing” people in quarantine camps, arresting grandmas having a cigarette alone in a park and issuing citations to people walking their dog outside the permitted hours, incentivizing people to snitch on “violators”, and sundry other depredations upon the liberty and dignity of ordinary citizens by your leaders (who, to add insult to injury, often were caught ignoring the very rules they capriciously imposed and meticulously enforced against their citizens). Ugh.

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    another ian

    The “New Scary Red Colour Scheme” in Action

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYNd4-BXoAIVTJD?format=jpg&name=small

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    Yonason

    RE – Covid nonsense…

    https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1537938997

    One of his best. Also, remember that you may not be able to access it after a week or so. He says there’s an archive, so maybe it will be there. I haven’t looked into that yet, as I watch most of his posts soon after they come out.

    In any case, he and his guest expose some fundamental discrepancies between what they’ve told us about the shots, and what is actually true about them. Covid vaccinology is a hot mess of epic proportions.

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    another ian

    “The anti-meat propaganda war is dialing up”

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-anti-meat-propaganda-war-is-dialing.html

    “It’s all propaganda, of course. I know that, because I’ve been to Uganda (and many other African nations) many times. I am an African, dammit! I was born and bred there. The fact that I’m also Caucasian (in other words – gasp! shock! horror! – white) is irrelevant. I know what Africans eat in most parts of that continent, and what they like – certainly better than almost all outsiders.

    Sure, Africans eat grasshoppers – mostly because the grasshoppers have eaten their crops, and they’ve got to eat something or starve to death. I’ve eaten grasshoppers myself on occasion. They were just another food-from-necessity, certainly not food-because-I-love-their-flavor. (Don’t eat the hind legs. They’re barbed. They bite back.)”

    And more

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    John B

    Re: Heathrow record Max Temperature.
    A few thoughts on the media hysteria.
    Two days of heat and a London record at an Airport!!!!
    What is ignored in the news reports is the UHI effect on temperatures. On average, the UHI (the Heat Island Index effect – generally very high in cities, as one would expect) for London lies between about 2.5 deg C and 3 deg C in summer -according to a 2002 study (Ref 1). This is an increase from an earlier study (for the period 1931–1960) which reported a UHI of 1.6 deg C, also in the summer. So I would imagine the UHI would increase even further for 2022, especially around Heathrow Airport.
    A max temperature of 100F (37.8 C) was registered at Greenwich Observatory (now closed as an official weather station), in the cooler (an educated guess- see Ref 2) SE London, in August, 1911! So I would say, if adjustments were made for UHI, the Heathrow record would fall short of the Greenwich record set some 100 years earlier!
    Remember in 1911, there were very few motorized vehicles (horse drawn buses and ‘lorries’ were common), sealed roads and no high rise, glass fronted, heat radiating buildings with AC. And there were no airports to set temperature records.
    Reference1: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/245383193_Estimation_of_the_urban_heat_island_for_UK_climate_change_projections
    Reference 2: 9th August 1911, 100 degrees F at Greenwich Observatory- not an airport which are always hotter!!!!!
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/23/historical-note-greenwich-england-mean-temperature-35-yr-daily-averages-1815-1849/

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    another ian

    Re foot and mouth

    “Please consider this petition in regards to Foot and Mouth Disease (FMD). Barnaby Joyce also has it on his page https://www.change.org/p/introduce-more-biosecurity-measures-to-protect-australia-from-foot-and-mouth-disease

    For a non-paywall article regarding the FMD fragments found in Melbourne please click on this link https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-20/foot-and-mouth-disease-fragments-detected/101254410

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    John Connor II

    Wow! NSW health surveillance data. Just look at vaxxed vs unvaxxed

    https://i0.wp.com/clownuniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/78FC7825-C250-4C3E-AEF0-8968F104D2A5.webp

    How will the health system cope with the VAXXED? 😅

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      Case numbers proprtional to vaccination rate. Wow!

      Non vaccinated make up a third of cases and less than 10% of the population. 2/3 have one or more vaccine dose and includes all those over 80s in nursing homes who are >99% vaccinated. So the vaccinated 1/3 is a younger cohort as well.

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/third-of-victorias-2022-covid-19-deaths-unvaccinated/101253540

      this pattern is basically universal.

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        KP

        “Of those who died, the median age was 85 years,”

        Well, if I die from Covid at 85 and un-vaxxed I think I’ll be happy enough, better than being vaxxed and dead at 75 from “unknown causes”.

        All those stats are useless unless they carry the age of the people dying and their underlying causes. Just who are the un-vaxxed and why are they so? They don’t explain that 20% un-vaxxed people died age 82 and 20% people died with their 4th vax aged 45..

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    Dennis

    Daily Telegraph Sydney today;

    Battery failure: Electric truck goes up in flames

    The world’s largest electric-truck has been destroyed in a battery fire on the NSW Central Coast.

    It follows a blaze in an electric battery factory in NSW earlier this month, a fire in one of the largest Tesla battery installations in the world in Victoria last year and growing concerns about household battery fires in e-scooters and e-bikes.

    Electric truck maker Janus Electric , based in Berkeley Vale, is pioneering a new way of powering big trucks with huge replaceable battery systems. But on July 14 it’s first prime mover to be converted to it’s new interchangeable lithium ion battery system, a Kenworth T403 truck, caught fire.

    Several crews from Tuggerah NSW Rural Fire Brigade put out the blaze, but had to remain on the job for several hours afterwards and continuously spray water on the vehicle to cool it down because of the risks posed by the lithium ion battery to stay overheated.

    The blaze follows a July 7 fire in a shed containing truck batteries at Cardiff at Lake Macquarie (near Newcastle NSW). That fire involved two large lithium ion batteries.

    Janus Electric is now conducting an investigation and said the truck that caught fire used the original front loading battery design which has since been updated to a more practical side load system.”

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      Dennis

      From a business perspective, I wonder how much payload (freight capacity) is lost by the weight of the lithium ion battery pack?

      It must be a significant factor in load restrictions for public roads, and there impact adversely on operating profit.

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        yarpos

        Probably why the target was government/semi government(very little busines perspective required). In the US the enthusiasm for EV trucks seems to be winding back to final mile suburban trundle buses which may work fine. Havent seen much on EV semis for a while now.

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        Chad

        A class 8 truck engine can weigh 1.5-2 tons, transmission a 100kg+ more , and a full diesel tank (400 ltrs) another 300+ kg.
        So you could get a healthy battery for that equivalent weight.

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          Hanrahan

          Put that weight of batteries in it, a Tesla on the trailer and you could drive the load 100 kms* at highway speed.

          * OK, a guess but your assumption is no more reasonable.

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    Dennis

    Albanese Labor Government Minister Plibersek made a huge fuss earlier this week about a report on the environment including accusing the previous government of ignoring it and pledging that the Albanese Government will implement to the recommendations ….

    ‘Hoaxed’: State of the Environment report relies on ‘New Age Aboriginal spirituality’
    17 hours ago

    Sky News host Andrew Bolt says Australians were “hoaxed” this week by Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek when she handed down the State of the Environment report on Tuesday.

    Mr Bolt said the report is not the work of more than 30 independent scientists, as reported by the ABC.

    “Many of the authors are actually activists, in fact aboriginal activists, or storytellers, or curators, or culture warriors,” he said.

    “And the authors who are scientists are for the most part not independent. Many are warmists of long standing, almost all working for government or government agencies. Not a single sceptical scientist was chosen to contribute to this project.”

    Mr Bolt said when looking at who was chosen, it is understood a lot of the report is “not science at all” but a “new green religion, with New Age Aboriginal spirituality”.

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    another ian

    “Climate Alarmist Explains Policy Targeting Farmers to end all Beef, Pork and Chicken from Human Diet
    July 21, 2022 | Sundance | 241 Comments

    A few years ago, we might have just brushed this type of ideological policy aside and called the guy a nut. However, he might indeed be a nut, but more and more countries are adopting the climate change farming policy he is advocating. {Direct Rumble Link} WATCH (2 minutes):”

    More at

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/07/21/climate-alarmist-explains-policy-targeting-farmers-to-end-all-beef-pork-and-chicken-from-human-diet/

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    yarpos

    Some T Shirts I saw recently

    Despite the look on my face……you are still talking

    Never thought I would be a grumpy old man…..but here I am killing it!

    Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow walk into a bar ….it was tense

    Maths, the only place where they can start “you buy 69 watermelons…” and nobody asks WHY?

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      Dennis

      I was walking in Orange NSW CBD and an electric wheelchair came around the corner and the driver stopped it when he sighted people walking, on his head was a golf cap and embroided onto the front was Thinking Cap.

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      yarpos

      Just noticed by daughters T shirt. It says “I am a Unicorn!” with a graphic of one

      Under the picture its says “……a bitter, angry, Unicorn”

      That should get its share of odd looks.

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      Vlad the Impaler

      Saw this one at the Trump rally for Harriet Hageman (attempting to replace Liz Cheney as the sole Wyoming Congressional Representative) in Casper, Wyoming, 28 May 2022:

      SOCIAL ism DISTANCING

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    Philip

    Im watching old Paul Beckwith youtube videos. 8 years ago he was predicting high probability of 5-6 degrees warmer global av in 10 years.

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