Reality must be depressing for Green-believers. Here they are, after all this revolutionizing, they’ve installed more than a million megawatts of glorious solar and wind totems and it has barely made a dent. The world still stubbornly runs on fossil fuels.
The BBC laments:
Climate change: Green energy ‘stagnates’ as fossil fuels dominate
Matt McGrath, BBC
A new study says that the world is using more fossil fuels than ever as the transition to green energy stalls.
The Renewables 2022 Global Status Report says the share of wind and solar in the global energy mix has risen minimally in the last decade.
“The share of renewable energy has moved in the last decade from 10.6% to 11.7%, but fossil fuels, all coal and gas have moved from 80.1% to 79.6%. So, it’s stagnating,” said Rana Adib, the executive director of REN21. “And since the energy demand is rising, this actually means that we are consuming more fossil fuels than ever.” As the world rebounded from Covid-19 in 2021, there was a significant rise in overall energy use, most of which was met by fossil fuels.
Here is the whole last ten years of the renewables revolution
Despite having 61 figures in their 367 page report, they didn’t seem to have a graph of how global fuel sources have changed. To help them, I created one:
OWID | Click to enlarge
What would you do, if you had thousands of marketing dollars to spend and wanted some eye candy that made renewables look like they weren’t a complete failure. You might use something like this:
Global Energy sources | REN21
And here’s 1.2 million megawatts of wind and solar power installed in the last decade. If only it was useful?
Solar PV Growth REN21
Wind power growth | REN21
Pretty depressing reading for anybody who realises that global surface temperatures will continue to rise until net greenhouse gas emissions are reduced to zero.
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All of them or only the ones we measure?
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People on Australia’s east coast might welcome that right now.
🥶❄️☃️
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Simon,
I stopped worrying about that after spending over a decade looking for the paper that established that relationship, and failing.
I’ve asked many true believers for the source of their faith, but they have been unable to provide me with their holy writ. Yet it should be so simple to find.
We have detailed temperature records back to 1850, and reasonable global temperature datasets going back a century. We have detailed atmospheric CO2 data from 1958. All the climate science community needed was a long enough baseline of data to capture the climate “signal”. Was that 10, 15 or 30 years?
By 1988, that relationship should have been well documented. But no one seems to be able to find that original paper. So I became a heretic! And suddenly, my world became far less depressing.
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“but they have been unable to provide me with their holy writ”
So true. !
Simon is a prime candidate to present the scientific evidence that he bases his cult-like idiotology on.
All we ever get is mindless regurgitation of brainless anti-science mantra.
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No Simon, it is only depressing for people who believe that story. Happily many do not. Probably most.
https://www.cfact.org/2022/05/10/consider-signing-the-world-climate-declaration-1/
If alarmism were not such a threat I would feel,sorry for it.
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existential
Leftists use that word. I thought adding might cause them to read your already accurate point.
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Just applied to sign, thanks David.
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It is pretty depressing to realise that anyone actually believes that global surface temperatures will continue to rise until net greenhouse gas emissions are reduced to zero.
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Thanks Simon, I needed a good laugh, and your comment provided it.
I am far more concerned about the toxic waste being generated due to the largely unregulated extraction of rare earths and cobalt, not to mention the waste generated when producing and scrapping solar panels, and the waste generated when burying pieces of scrapped wind turbine.
It’s such a pity that the ignorant Greens and so-called environmentalists lose sleep over a trace gas changing by a few ppm instead of boycotting batteries, wind turbines and solar panels because of the devastation they cause. I guess real problems are too hard or scary to contemplate?
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I wish the greenies would get as evangelical about rare earth minerals as they do about everything else in nature. Once gone, rare earth minerals are gone forever. And who knows what far better uses in the future they might be needed for instead of consuming them as fast as we can rip them up?
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“..global surface temperatures will continue to rise until net greenhouse gas emissions are reduced to zero.”
What about the saturation effect? It looks like any possible global warming from co2 has already happened.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2006.03098.pdf
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They can’t prove scientifically that CO2 causes any warming at all.. ignore the saturation effect.
Actual lab measurements show that absorption levels out around 280ppm.
The Log relationship is a model that is close but not correct.
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Either way CO2 is not a problem, but that’s no good for advancing the agendas behind Net Zero.
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Dave
I have a Swiss research paper at home that I cannot fault and in it the researcher looked at various gases actual greenhouse effects. CO2 was found to be less than Oxygen and nitrogen. This was a real world practical experimentation.
There is no CO2 induced warming. The only inducements here are the subsidies and kickbacks to solar panel pushers and windmill suppliers.
Lets follow actual research and actual science instead of distorted graphs based on fraudulent data manipulation.
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Simon, here’s a serious question for you – I am not joking.
Question: Where is there any evidence of genuine global warming?
It appears that all those who are exploiting the good faith of people like you to support their scam are fabricating data to “prove” warming.
You have been played for a fool.
For starters, just see these two short videos by Tony Heller and another short video about fossil temperatures in the Greenland ice core (historic temperatures derived not from isotopic composition but actual temperature).
Tony Heller.
Pt 1 https://youtu.be/2y1MPPprzX4
Pt 2 https://youtu.be/WwEy7QhUgIY
Greenland ice core temperature.
https://youtu.be/WE0zHZPQJzA
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“You have been played for a fool.”
Which he most certainly is.
The epitome of brain-washed ignorance.
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You missed the line “energy demand is rising” and that rise which is occurring in developing regions like China/India, and parts of Africa which has been the subject of posts on this blog, because that demand is being met by coal/gas. Developed regions are seeing a larger decline in coal/gas.
Stay sceptical
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P.F. :
Sure thing! Especially when the story de-jour has caused massive unsustainable energy cost increases. Mostly by vilifying the lowest cost source of electricity: Coal.
Justify your own skepticism would you please?
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You have never been sceptical. You are a cult-like “believer”
“Developed regions are seeing a larger decline in coal/gas. “
And look what is happening to their electricity supply systems.
All that unreliability built into the grid.
For absolutely all pain, ZERO gain, in a blind cult-like attempt to solve a non-existent problem.
Coal and Gas are the only things that are keeping the electricity supply systems of once-developed countries from complete collapse.
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Fella in South Oz on Twitter now saying he’s had to close his foundry and send everyone home bcos the spot rate jumped 1500%. No solar, no wind, coal fired plants useless due to lack of investment. We can’t even make tin cans any more.
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That’s what happens when you INTENTIONALLY make the grid unreliable.
And all for what is essentially just a computer generated fairy-tale!
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Say, look at that graph pink thread!
So teeny-tiny in the overall scheme
of things. Please to consider that
massive use of landscape…
trees chopped, birds zapped,
food acreage denied, etc.* and
energy wasted in their construction.
Say, jest who are the deniers in this destruction?
* Not or to mention the subsidies of interested parties.
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Thx, AD 🙂
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“To resolve the situation (power shortages), the Indian government has authorized increased importation of thermal coal, removed all import duty on coal, is reopening hundreds of closed coal mines, and has asked existing domestic mines to produce at unprecedented rates. The country has even canceled dozens of commercial trains to make room for the freight trains that carry coal.
Coal-fired plants produce more than 70 percent of all electricity consumed by India’s 1.3 billion people. Indicating greater demand, coal-based electricity registered a 3.12 percent increase in March 2022 compared to a year ago.”
If only we had a government capable of thinking about solving a problem, let alone realising what caused the problem. We’ve still got people who think that the solution to Wind turbines not supplying is more wind turbines not supplying.
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Pretty depressing that anyone still thinks CO2 causes global warming.
Pretty depressing to think there are still that many so incredibly dumb, brain-washed, ignorant people.
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And many of them work as educators.
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The predicted rise is three times greater than the reality Simon so what should we base our policies on? The real rise or the hyped up computer rise based on a few variables but leaving out the biggies like the sun and clouds? Seems we would be much better off ignoring the Green madness and saving our money to deal with real problems.
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If anyone is truly that gullible than they will eventually be depressed about something, so it may as well be this.
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Simon, hope you aren’t using any fossil fuels, or processed foods.
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Simon,
you break my heart with your astounding lack of wisdom. It is like you should be able to sue someone for your reasoning deficit. Mother? Drug use during gestation? Father? Pesticides? fluoride in the water? Lack of B12 or Folate? Radiation? Cellphone use? Head injury?
Something must have caused it and I support you being compensated for your loss, pain and suffering.
Hell, I support OUR being compensated for suffering BECAUSE of it.
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Have you got one of those platinum tipped sensors stuck up yer jacksey?
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Bull – who realises that global surface temperatures will continue to rise
It is B’Cold here on OZ East Coast, as my nice External Natural Gas (really small Braemar) Ducted Gas Heating heats the house to 21C, then usually shut off 0930 and turn back on at 5pm
Thanks the Heavens for Fossil Fuels
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Simon, I wonder if you truly believe what you say?
You are either playing games with us, have investments in unreliables, are incredibly ignorant, or a typical recent product of the “education system”. Or all of the former.
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It is pretty easy to figure out who is the hidden force behind AGW movement. Which country has had the highest economic gains from the green movement. Here in the US we pretty much sacrificed our whole manufacturing base due to overly restrictive environmental laws. We gave up coal as a major source of power.
What country now manufactures our goods and burns our coal. CHINA!
Sorry but historically the Socialist/Communists have always been the driving force behind the green movements. Our Left Wing educational system has been a very enthusiastic partner in this silent revolution.
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Right on!
Immediately post World War 2, Australia was poor but we had a structure, educational system, work ethic and industrial base that had enormous potential.
Most of us worked, studied and contributed to this rebound from the deprivation of war until, about 1970, a change in political mood was evident.
Politicians told us we had arrived, social security handouts replaced jobs and the great decline, crash? was on.
It’s obvious, in hindsight, that many of our politicians have taken an easy road, accepted gifts from foreigners, and shafted those who depended on them.
It’s not much consolation but the same damaging leadership is evident in the collapse of Once Great Britain, the EEU, USA and Canada.
Basically, the world which could “go to the Moon in 1969” has morphed into a sad, crapped out shadow of its former self.
We need vision and leaders to put this right.
Poor fella my country. Those sleeping in shop entry spaces, out in the open at night tell the story without speaking but our Leaders pretend not to see that? Really?
KK
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Yeah, all the plant life on earth will sigh in relief when the CO2 concentrations they have to breathe start to diminish … Phew! Crisis averted.
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People keep saying that it’s a “transition”, ignoring the fact that the only intended purpose of that change was to reduce CO2 emissions. As today’s experience in the UK, EU and now Australia shows, renewables are actually totally incapable of running a grid reliably or cheaply.
This IPCC experiment has failed. There has been no measurable reduction in CO2 emissions. More significantly, renewables cannot even scale fast enough to cope with normal growth in energy demand.
Time to promote the one technology we know that has no CO2 emissions, has no problem providing baseload capacity, and has a 60 year track record of reliable energy delivery: let’s go nuclear!
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The US too:
https://www.cfact.org/2022/06/02/silence-of-the-power-engineers-nerc-does-nothing/
Our renewable blackouts loom.
Personally I prefer coal if you have it, as we do.
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Australia has absolutely no need to go nuclear (I have nothing against nuclear, btw)
We have some of the world’s largest and best supplies of coal.
That is where our cheap reliable electricity should be sourced from.
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Nuclear should be used where it is cheaper than coal. This might be in Outback communities where diesel generation or delivery over long power lines is expensive and a small modular reactor might be appropriate.
Or in cases where it might be cheaper than an actual coal power station even close to major cities and not in remote areas.
The market place should decide.
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SMR’s for remote areas or where else they might be sensible… yeah, why not.
Far better than using unreliables that need 100%+ back-up anyway.
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The problem is “Now”: SMR’s are not. Just sayin”
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“Now”, should be finding the money and wherewithal to fix the maintenance issues of the coal fired power stations.
The fetid green agenda has stifled those funds and needs to get the **** out the way. !
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b-nice. It is a huge mistake to even HOPE the govt cares about back-ups and all that stuff. Govt is out to do every citizen harm, and wants us all starving in the dark….ASAP.
The past two years of THEM destroying lives; of bashing old ladies; ruffing up pregnant sheilas; putting the gentlest people in gaol; SACKING even the MOST essential workers who declined to be killed by THEIR gene-jabs should’ve shown you their intentions. People attracted to modern politics are 99% psychopaths and pathological liars.
Now, if that sounds too harsh, have a little look at the following: https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release. A 20% increase in all cause mortality ALREADY by January/February = the greatest cull ever seen is now underway….as foretold by the voices these tossers tried to silence.
A few thousand pensioners frozen in their homes by power-shortages; a few million unemployed and on the streets in rags etc etc will not bother the ALP, LNP, Greens nor any of them. THEY DO NOT CARE! This is exactly what they desire. Destruction is their creed!
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I wonder if the “Smart Grid” is really a rail track to move coal from source across country to generator. Iron rail cost compared to inter-connector cost.
Any bets on the lower operating expense?
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Cost of transporting coal by rail vs burning it at source and transporting the product by electricity wires is a common question to consider.
It has been examined for a particular situation in the US. General findings may be roughly applicable here.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/es048981t
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Interesting to explore more deeply.
One thing raised my hackles:
Whatever costs this adds, the first sentence is hyperbolic and probably propaganda. “kill” in this context is not the right word.
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I notice that you seem to be the last recipient of a red thumb this morning. Why has the REDTHUMBer stopped?
Did he have to go to work? (a bit late surely?)
Or is he suffering from Red Thumb pain?
Or has he suffered a blackout (electrical)?
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Graeme No 3
Or got the daily quota? Did you happen to note the number for future reference?
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Academia can do all of the studies they want “proving” that coal is costly and renewables are inexpensive but existing coal plants still produce the lowest price power /KWH there is period except for hydro. Despite excessive regulations, the fact that these plants operate at a profit pretty much proves that the production and transportation costs associated with coal are not excessive.
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We should be using both. I have no objection to a mix of fuel sources. Helps us spread the load, literally.
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In the long run, the world will be either nuclear or nuked. All other measures are short term.
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Sorry, for those who have real rivers and real elevation, of which Australia has neither, hydro will work long term too.
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‘ … let’s go nuclear!’
Albo won’t consider nuclear, it belongs in the bottom draw.
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Question: if you charge up an EV at a ‘pump’, is the ‘spot price’ reflected in how much you pay for your re-charge? Seems like it might get a bit exxy to own an EV these days…
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No, it doesn’t bother you at all. The only power pumps for electric cars that I know are in Yea, Victoria. These outlets have no key pads, no card swipe capability. The power supplied to the user is “free”. I have asked my local council who pays for the power consumed. No answer. The real answer is the rate payers who have no say in how council rates are squandered.
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Daylesford had some too. Most local councils are filled with green virtue-signalling loonies.
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Ah. Free. I see.
NO, ACTUALLY I DON’T, HOW THE ACTUAL F DID THAT GET APPROVED BY ANYONE?
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Well, I’ll try and help. It was proposed by council to place these charging stations in Yea, which is about 80 Klms from Melbourne, so EV owners could have a “day in the country” while their vehicle recharges to take them home. The theory being that while the EV owner is forced to walk around town for a couple of hours they will spend money in the local establishments. So a win win situation. The EV owner is more or less guaranteed to have enough juice to make it home (provided you live in the northern suburbs not down either peninsular) and the shop keepers will have additional turn over, that will, by default, benifit everyone.
The fact that the cost of installation for these outlets nor the cost of consumed electricity, was actualy discussed. ( Not that I can find, maybe in a back room somewhere )seems to have just slipped through the crack.
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Are the data for wind nameplate?
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If you look at the Aneroid site it details all our wind farms, their nameplate and current generation. Is that the data you require? https://anero.id/energy/wind-energy/2021/april/30 That one is for April last year but there is provision to insert any date including the current one.
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AS at 0717 hrs today all the wind on the East coast is producing 30.4% of nameplate which is about average for the course. IOW if we use 30000 GW of power we would need 90000 GW of nameplate to replace coal and gas. But there are wind droughts when no wind power is produced; what then?
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“IOW if we use 30000 GW of power we would need 90000 GW of nameplate to replace coal and gas.”
Sorry, but no amount of wind and solar can replace coal and gas (or nuclear)
You would have to build wind and solar, with battery storage to last however long the longest wind drought might be, or how long the clouds might stick around.
Then what happens when you exceed those periods.?
How long is a piece of string !
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“AS at 0717 hrs today all the wind on the East coast is producing 30.4% of nameplate”
So on average wind is only really supplying about 190 GW, or less, out of 160,000 TWh, world wide.
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Currently in Alberta, wind and solar are producing 13.6% of their installed capacity. The current hourly spot rate is $514/MWh. We are already experiencing the same self inflicted economic pain as Australia and will likely enjoy the blackouts soon as well. We are sitting on top of huge oil and gas reserves and yet we continue to take out coal units and replace them with wind and solar. We are governed by abject morons, even with a so called “conservative” provincial government.
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If any targets to reduce toxic emissions are to be met any time soon the obvious technology is NUCLEAR generation. Every other technology generates more pollution & side effects which have to be dealt with.
Nuclear is the obvious way to go but is being held back by various group interests vying for profits for technologies which are simply ineffective & produce more problems than solutions!
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“toxic emissions”
Modern coal has reduced toxic emissions to basically background levels.
CO2 is not a toxic emission.
Nuclear does produce toxic waste.
Sure, it can be dealt with, but don’t downplay it.
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Funny that the left maintain that technology for renewables is not up to expectations but by 2050 technology to solve all the deficiencies will be achieved & all the fairies at the bottom of the garden will rejoice.
But no one mentions new Nuclear technologies nor the fact that nuclear waste is being recycled, refined and used a 2nd time around. I guess the fairies down in the garden worry about it upsetting their narratives.
Nuclear will win in the end.
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Not while there’s coal to burn. Irrespective of contemporary economic fashion thermodynamic efficiency will take the day. Come back and talk to about these renewable schemes in fifty years when the entire criminal enterprise has been locked in electronic dungeons.
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Those pushing nuclear are a dying breed, primarily because of the cost and timeline to build. Of course the waste is highly toxic.
A gas fired power station can be constructed for $600 million with a build time of between one to five years.
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We need coal fired power generation.
Our politicians sold all of our Gas to friends.
The primary “toxic” aspect of nuclear power is Politicians who interfere with and override the engineering imperatives of plant construction and operation.
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Just saw Albo on live TV and he has gone bananas, Dutton will eat them alive.
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Any guesses as to how quickly the Labor government will collapse given it has no clue about anything and risks being led everywhere by the Victorian premier?
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Daniel Andrews has more lives than a cat.
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The next few years should see us weaned off renewables, our dependence on coal is plain for all to see.
The world is not getting warmer, Peter Dutton can use this knowledge to his advantage.
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K.K.
I think that our ‘founding fathers’ missed making Morons and lunatics ineligible to be elected. The result is a plethora of them in various Parliaments. M*d MAT KEAN in NSW, Dangerous Dan in Victoria, Silly Koot in SA (although none of them are orphans) as well as Bowen in Canberra.
They should all be asked “If a thousand wind turbines aren’t delivering electricity, how much would 2,000 turbines deliver?”
Those claiming that more renewables are the answer should be declared incapable and booted out.
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I think our founding fathers expected that Morons and Lunatics would be in the minority.
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Hi Simon,
Here is some good news for those who are ‘worried’ about CAGW. Global warming has stopped and there is now cooling. The global average temperature is now only 0.17C, above the 20-year average. Cooling and the fact that there is cyclic warming in the paleo record that correlates with past solar cycle changes, disproves CAGW and AGW.
https://www.drroyspencer.com/2022/06/uah-global-temperature-update-for-may-2022-0-17-deg-c/
Zero CO2 emissions will not change the earth’s ‘climate’ because solar changes caused the warming, in the last 30 years, rather than CO2 emissions. Regardless, zero CO2 emissions is not possible using sun and wind gathering. It just makes electricity very expensive and unreliable. The zero CO2 policy will cause economic collapse long before CO2 emissions actually reach zero. All of the pain for no benefit.
The sun is entering a Maunder minimum state where it stops producing sunspots. The magnetic strength of the magnetic flux tubes that rise up to the surface of the sun to form sunspots is declining. Solar cycle 25 is failing. The magnetic flux tubes require a minimum field strength of around 30,000 gauss, to avoid being torn apart by convection movement in the solar convection zone. The magnetic flux tubes are now starting to be torn apart creating tiny short lived solar pores rather than long life sunspots. This change in the solar magnetic flux tubes, is causing the solar large-scale magnetic field strength and the strength of solar heliosphere which blocks high speed cosmic particles, both to decrease. The reduction in strength of the solar heliosphere which extends past Pluto, causes an increase in high speed cosmic particles that strike the earth’s atmosphere. The high speed cosmic particles are the primary source of ions in the atmosphere. An increase in cosmic particles striking the earth atmosphere creates more ions in the atmosphere which creates more clouds and creates more cyclone storms.
https://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_1024_HMIIC.jpg
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What is the relevance of a 20 year average, when climate has a baseline of 30 years. Could it be that 20 years starts on a higher than trend year? Cherry-picking at it best
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By contrast the average Koala lives for an average of 15 years or so.
That means that on a baseline of 30 years for Climate, and by implication, Climate Change caused by CO2, the average Koala will not experience full climate variability.
Cherries?; I thought they ate gum leaves.
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“climate has a baseline of 30 years”
A cherry-picked period at its worst..
Start in 1979 (coldest year since the 1940s) you get the whole upward leg of the AMO.
Perfect for warming propaganda to convince clueless clowns.
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We’ve had 1℃ rise since 1855 so the average for 30 year periods is 0.18℃.
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Cherry picking? Pot meet kettle
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Yes and he knows that 30 years is just as arbitrary. My cherries are better than your cherries….
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“climate has a baseline of 30 years”
Is it the average climate has a baseline of 30 years or climate has an average baseline of 30 years or average climate has an average baseline of 30 years.
But then what is climate? Is it the average world climate or the average of the hundreds if not thousands of micro climates all over the world?
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Mr Astley, we are not necessarily entering a Maunder Minimum, old Sol is highly unpredictable.
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/solar-cycle-progression
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People on the rational side of science and politics need to promote the truth that much of the “data” “proving” supposed anthropogenic global warming is entirely fabricated as has been pointed out in the videos by Tony Heller I posted above. And he doesn’t even mention the fraudulent and non-scientific “hockey stick” graph.
How say you, warmists?
Where is the non-fabricated evidence?
And even if there were warming for any reason how would that be a bad thing given that civilisation thrived during previous periods of warming such as the Minoan, Egyptian, Roman and Medieval Warm Periods?
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Where is the non-fabricated evidence?
You will never get any from the AGW shills that occasionally make useless comments here.
They add a bit of levity to the forum, something to laugh at, but evidence.. never going to happen.
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Warmists are MIA…as usual when it comes to facts.
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Zeal abhors facts.
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Teal abhors facts.
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Seed planting.
You make people question they’re own observed experience by sowing seeds of doubt.
“Did you see the witch?”
“What witch?”
“You don’t believe in witches”?
“Er … ah … I didn’t mean that, come to think of it, I think I saw the witch?”
“Do have a runny nose?”
“Little bit, nothing serious?”
“You can’t leave your house.”
“Wha … why?”
“There’s a Pandemic.?”
“Wha …?”
“You deny Science and you want old people to die?”
“Bl@ck Live Matter”
“Of course, all lives matter.”
“You are denying Bl@ck Lives Matter?”
They’re not interested In facts.
Gotta plant the weeds to spoil the harvest.
Then the farm is up for grabs.
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The federal opposition parties could use this opportunity to come clean on the climate hoax, and what it is costing us, and thereby firmly establish themselves as defenders of the interests of working people. Or they can lay low, cowering from the Left, say nothing and hope that no one notices them, allow the globalists to entrench their control over sovereign nations, allow the Left to control the institutions and the political narrative, and just wait around until they win an election by default, when the government stumbles.
Which do you think it will be?
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That’s what I expect the Liberals (pretend conservative party) to continue to do. And they will continue to lose elections.
Australians should look to Venezuela to see their future.
My friend owns a pub in inner Melbourne and last night he told me is going to install a diesel generator so he can continue to run his business during expected frequent blackouts in the near future, as soon as the next coal power station is destroyed or fails due to lack of maintenance (since there is no incentive to keep them running).
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“since there is no incentive to keep them running.”
Maintenance costs money.. and used to be done using recurring loans.
Those funds have been choked off by the anti-CO2 green ooze agenda.
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Also, apart from deliberate starvation of funds by the banks, why maintain something that state and federal government policy, not to mention their masters at the UN and WEF, is aimed at destroying?
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Indeed; the latest outrage at Yallourn (two units out) is indicative that full system collapse will be sooner rather than later.
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A bit slow. Supermarkets in the Adelaide Hills added or up-graded their generators after 2016. The local (small) chain built 2 new bigger supermarkets on new sites so they would have room for the generators. (Security in both meanings).
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Yes, and very soon they may actually run their supermarkets during certain parts of the day, from those generators, as they find it is cheaper than getting power from the grid.
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And diesel will always be available eh.
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They are supermarkets. When the diesel runs out they’ll still have some cooking oil left on the shelves. They can use that until it too runs put…
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Rational thinkers should be aware that the anthropogenic global warming fraud is causing significant mental health issues among those manipulated as fools by those promoting the global warming fraud.
These mental health issues, ranging from depression to suicide have other impacts on society as a whole.
To get an idea of the extent of the problem Google “mental health global warming” without quote marks. Although most of the literature is from a warmist perspective, it gives rational thinkers an idea of the extent of the problem.
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“causing significant mental health issues”
But why do people like Simon, PF, Gee have to bring their mental health issues here!
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Because they are Leftists, they believe in sharing their misery and making others as miserable as they are, whether we wish to receive their misery or not. Meanwhile, those manipulating such people are flying around in private jets sipping Krug champagne and dining on the finest meats and Beluga caviar.
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And conservatives are generally happier in life and see more meaning than Leftists (liberals in US terminology).
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550618768241
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D3 hormone deficiency probably.
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I love they way they keep talking about this “transition” as if its real. It’s the classic lefty style of trying to control the debate. We even had a US bureaucrat recently calling for social media to ban criticism of ” the transition”
There will be no “transition” with the current technology set. The reasons it does not work, and can not work, have been done to death on these pages.
One can only watch in awe as the “RE” faithful pound away implementing fatally flawed solutions to a non problem. Then they express surprise that they dont deliver, cause previously working systems to fail and add complexity and costs.
This stupidity consistently leads to countries building themselves into corners and suddenly realising they actually need the coal, gas and nuclear assets they have let run down and/or have started to remove. That has been repeated in SA, Tasmania, and recently in the massive back pedalling in the EU, UK and California. Still in the face of all this we in Oz talk about 82% renewables (by what nonsense date doesnt matter) Its mind numbing.
I just hope they achieve this by useless paper shuffling like the ACT, rather than attempting it in reality.
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Is that reference to paper shuffling about the EU use of the meaning of biofuels or their approval of Green Certificates?
I can see the advantages of burning household rubbish for (hot water) heat in winter as it saves on landfill (and the subsequent methane releases) especially as Singapore does it to save on space, but I fail to see how deforestation of countries like Sweden and Slovakia benefits them.
And Green Certificates??? Norway generates hydro and sells this, then gets Certificates which they can also sell (The Netherlands cut their OFFICIAL emissions from their coal-fired stations from 60% to 14% buying them). Still the same amount of CO2 unlike Drax in Yorkshire where burning imported wood chips instead of coal increased CO2 output by 32%, but they were more profitable.
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Really its any accounting/contractural/number torturing nonsense that entities go through to claim “RE” success.
Examples might be gaming LCOE calcs, certificate shuffling or talking about nameplate power that never happens.
In the ACT case they have “RE” contracts and claim to be 100% renewable. In reality the ACT is a small territory that sits within the NSW grid which is primarily coal and gas driven. So in reality they are playing contractural games and trying to virtue signal while actually using the same power as everyone else in the surrounding State.
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“Transition” is up there with “decarbonisation” as one of the most annoying terms.
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Bottom line:
The unreliables experiment has had no noticeable impact on anything except to cause massive economic chaos through high energy prices and huge visual pollution, destruction of wildlife, infrasound pollution etc..
The focus on a non-problem for the last several decades has diverted humanity’s attention away from productive endeavours and wasted huge amounts of economic resources.
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Exactly, and all driven by the distillation of human cupidity which is the global financial system.
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I’ve tried to use global population increase, life expectancy increase, calories intake, GDP per capita etc to PROVE that we’ve been living in the very best of times and for a very long time.
Certainly the last 200 years, 100 years, last 50 years and last 20 years. Yet the dopey extremists are telling us we only have a few years left to fix their delusional nonsense or we face an EXISTENTIAL threat?
But the UN data proves they are wrong and yet they still insist we waste many more TRILLIONs of $ for a GUARANTEED ZERO return?
Here’s the UN data for projected population increase to 9.8 billion by 2050 and 11.2 billion by 2100. And yet these loonies BELIEVE we can catch up their present S & W energy shortfall and then somehow cover this further massive increase in just 28 years and then 78 years?
This is certainly a mission impossible using more unreliable, TOXIC S & W energy and today China, India and other developing countries are building hundreds of new Coal powered stations.
So why do these delusional fools continue to BELIEVE the lies and nonsense from the MSM, or stupid pollies or irrational so called scientists etc?
https://www.un.org/en/desa/world-population-projected-reach-98-billion-2050-and-112-billion-2100
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There is indeed an EXISTENTIAL THREAT.
But it is from the Left who are systematically destroying our energy supply and Western Civilisation in general.
That is the true nature of the existential threat and it is very real.
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Over at Slashdot.org, there are some uninformed people talking about how great solar is in Australia. Methinks they miss the big picture.
Dr. Saul Griffith, the author of “Electrify” and the founder and chief scientist of Rewiring America, Rewiring Australia and Otherlab, writes in a column:
I recently moved back here to my home country partly because I believe Australians can show the world how much money households can save through simple climate solutions like rooftop solar. How is it that Australia, a country that historically has been a coal-burning climate pariah, is leading the world on solar? The four-bedroom house we recently bought provides a hint: It came with two rooftop solar systems of 11 kilowatts of combined capacity and a battery with 16 kilowatt-hours of storage. This system should produce more than enough to power my family’s home, one electric car and both of our electric bikes with some left over to send back to the grid. Solar is now so prevalent in Australia that over a quarter of households here have rooftop panels, compared with roughly 2.5 percent of American households.
Australia pays its solar installers salaries comparable to those in the United States, and it buys most of its solar modules from China at 25 cents per watt, just a little less than what American buyers pay. Our houses are mostly detached single-family, like America, too. But unlike in the United States, it’s easy to get permits and install rooftop solar in Australia. Australia’s rooftop solar success is a function partly of luck, partly of design. In the early 1990s, regulators considered rooftop solar a hobby, and no one stood in the way of efforts to make the rules favorable to small-scale solar. Looking for a good headline to varnish over Australia’s refusal to agree to the same greenhouse emissions reductions as the rest of the world in the 1997 Kyoto climate agreement, the federal government embraced renewable energy policies that set the stage for rooftop solar. Households were given rebates for the upfront costs, and were paid to send excess electricity back to the grid. In 2007, Prime Minister John Howard doubled the rebate, a move that is credited with kick-starting a solar installation boom.
https://slashdot.org/story/22/06/15/100204/installing-rooftop-solar-can-be-a-breeze-just-look-at-australia
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And how will the panels perform when we have 2 weeks of overcast weather?
And how well will he got when there is a 3 to 5 day blackout as happened to lots of houses in South Australia in 2016?
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They are not performing very well. My solar is struggling to climb above 25% of its daily summer output. And it’s been that way for over a week. I’ve seen recent calculations saying we only need backup storage for 2 days, perhaps 3 days. If we design to that low storage level, there will e lots of blackouts.
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Sounds like he is just bound up in the goodness of installing panels and has little care about consequences.
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There is a consistency here (IMO)
“Goal Posts Moved”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/06/14/goal-posts-moved/#comment-1646909
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scar
June 14, 2022 at 11:36 pm
So 2 doses doesn’t work. How do we make the jackass understand that 10 doses doesn’t work any better?
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another ian
June 15, 2022 at 3:57 am
A double job there – he thinks it is the same as more wind turbines overcome the wind droughts””
And today, with a power crisis, more wind turbines are the solution as are more jabs for the Peking Pox –
““Keeping Up To Date” Is the New Boost You Up Your Wazoo”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/06/15/keeping-up-to-date-is-the-new-boost-you-up-your-wazoo/
(It will be interesting to see if that bobs up here as the new talking point)
“Are You ACTUALLY Crazy?”
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=246117
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Victorian premier is agitating for mandatory second booster regulations to apply federally. https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/immunity-is-waning-andrews-seeks-fourth-shot-for-hospital-workers-20220613-p5atbt.html
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A short 3 min video from 1948 about the Yallourn Power Station in Vicdanistan, from a time when it seemed Australia had a bright future based on science and reason.
Recommended viewing to see how people back then were so positive about our future. Now, Venezuela is our future.
https://youtu.be/eWXFnVT5Wj0
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Those were the days. It’s only now, in this existential crisis of power supply, that you realise what an incredible resource the Latrobe Valley brown coal/electicity sector is. Also, how the economics of brown coal are almost perfect for Victoria. There’s over 500 years of brown coal supply, the coal bed is relatively shallow and the main market for the electricity is within 200 km of the source. You build the power plants right next to the open coal pit so there’s minimal transport costs, employ lots of people and it provides baseload power 24/7. It’s quite incredible now that we have both sides of state and federal politics that are virtually anti-coal. I spent a lot of my early childhood chopping wood, stacking wood, cleaning out fire grates etc. Every now and then my parents would buy a bag of “briquettes” and it was like a holiday.
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In Commiefornia, they have banned the sale of small backup generators, firepumps and anything else that uses small gasoline engines. That will be just great during the forest fire / bush fire season in Commiefornia or Australia.
No doubt Australia will follow.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/10/11/california-climate-activists-just-banned-backup-generators-and-fire-pumps/
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That’s ok – they’ll use electric pumps for fighting fires. (sarcasm). Anyone who has been in a bushfire, knows the first thing that happens is the power goes off.
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And electric powered fire fighting vehicles
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People in California will just have to drive further to buy generators and fire pumps.
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Correction. The ban is scheduled, but hasn’t yet been implemented.
They also intend to ban the sale of gasoline powered cars by 2035.
Commiefornia will then look like Cuba with people driving vintage cars.
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They also get cheaper fuel for the drive home
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Here’s a quick visual way we can follow the UN data for Humans around the world since 1950 and up to 2100.
The default setting is 2025 to 2030, but you can move the toggle back or forward and check the colour coding for all countries back to 1950 or forward to 2100.
Note how the colours begin to to trend in the same direction, for life expectancy, infants up to 5 years ( see buttons) or whatever as you move the toggle to the right?
It just proves what BS and FR_UD we’ve been subjected to over the last 30 years.
https://population.un.org/wpp/Maps/
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That is strange because the narrative in response to the crisis is we need to get rid of coal asap.
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Without burning it; here in Victoria a lake is proposed for concealment of the forbidden resource.
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On the late 9 News last night they had a solution, so relax. The solution is you put solar panels and a battery on your house. Problem solved.
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Oh, it’s all settled then.
Those people at Channel 9 sure know their stuff.
We can all pack up and go home, LoL.
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DM
Which meaning of “stuff” did you really have in mind?
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The world is held by the elite at present. They are unlikely to cede their profits.
The last 2o years has largely hidden the developments in the quest for “green energy. It has been like the times of the early developments of the the computer. Whole university depts have been devoted and the amateurs have swapped results world wide.
In the last few years atomic elements appeared in the experiments that were not introduced by the experimenter. Curiouser still, if a separate voltage was pumped through the plasma different elements could be produced by changing it! There were fascinating comments about this.
This has culminated in cold fusion being abandoned by most former researchers. The quest is now to replicate and explain the experimental results. a common theme emerged: (1) Hydrogen was required in whatever form; (2) a metallic catalyst; (3) a plasma with (1) & (2) present; (4) a pulsed voltage/current through that plasma. The change of voltage yielded different elements. Some form of (al)chemistry was taking place. Some combinations showed substantial measurable energy released and harmful radiation was not usually a concern.
Now we are seeing patents from the results. The most advanced to date appear to be https://brilliantlightpower.com/
A video gives an excellent detailed presentation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA072IAM-dE
The team involved are all professional.It is a delight hearing the personal delivery by Randell Mills who must be one of the brightest alive.
I have sucessfully precalled a lot of technology changes over the years including the inkjet printer, which is still a mind boggling device.
I trust Jo Nova who is an excellent researcher and communicator with integrity. I believe Randell Mills team should be watched closely for future developments. I have also been a fraud investigator and have no sense of concern from the comprehensive details freely availble that any scam is involved.
My tech background and history is availble free here:
https://www.obooko.com/free-memoir-biography-autobiography-books/my-first-80-years-kevin-obrien
[Randall Mills has made these claims for 25 years via Brilliant Light Power, Inc. (BLP), formerly BlackLight Power, but has yet to produce any useful power. Claims without results are the author’s responsibility. If/when he produces results, let the blog know of that success. – LVA]
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No worries- my bad, I should have credited Michael Shellenberger as the source. (https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1537058235529646080)
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The “transition” to “green energy” is just as impossible as that other “transition” heavily promoted by the Left, a supposed transition of one gender to another.
It’s all fanciful, for the same reason as Thomas Sowell stated, whom I quoted above.
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“transition” heavily promoted by the Left’
Gas is the preferred option for a quick fix, its the ideal transition energy source, but getting Labor on side might take time.
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Dr Rosling told us the truth 10 years ago with his BBC video about how more countries had moved from the POOR and SICK corner to the WEALTHY and HEALTHY corner since 1810.
Yet we’re fed lies and delusional nonsense today about EXISTENTIAL threats if we don’t agree to a much lower standard of living and also wreck our environment using more TOXIC S & W energy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo
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The heading says; “Wobal- Gloe: The transition has stalled —”
That’s the message being pushed, it’s a “transition”, but from any engineering perspective renewables can’t be let into such an important community system until they have been developed and thoroughly tested.
They jumped that hurdle without looking.
Transition implies replacing the pre-renewables coal fired grid with something better in performance and cost, but, at the very least all we are receiving is a poorly instigated test run of the newies.
The only reason that the lights are still on is that industry in Australia has “left the premises”.
Another view might assess what’s been done as deliberate smashing of our grid and society. Most likely.
Our industrial base has gone, our leadership is compromised in the extreme and Australia has now reached it’s obvious target of Third World Status in record time.
How any thinking youngster might be motivated to study something useful like electrical engineering in this country and hope for a career of rewarding service is beyond me.
WEF wins.
Thank you Messrs McGowan, Keane, Dubonnet, Palaczuk and DanDrews.
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Occasionally people from overseas who want to migrate ask me about Australia.
I tell them Australia has no good future in sight.
I recommend they go to a red state in the United States if they can immigrate there, bearing in mind that the Biden Maladministration only wants illiterate, uneducated, non-Western, non-English speaking people in that country.
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Well, biden has turned away refugees from Hati and from Cuba. Back in the 70’s he was against giving refuge for Vietnamese escaping from communism. Democrats still are not all that welcoming to Asian Americans. During the 90’s he railed agaist the black community. The Democrats are fine with the open border because they think it will change the demographics of America to their favor. But if immigrants and refugees are more likely to support conservatives the Democrats and the establishment don’t want them.
The special congressional election in Texas yesterday was notable because an Hispanic women running against the biden immigration policies flipped a seat which has been Democrat for 100 years. More and more Hispanics and Asian Americans are being red pilled. And Trump greatly expanded the numbers of African Americans voting conservative.
biden has been such a disaster that the Democrats may be out of power for a generation to come.
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‘I tell them Australia has no good future in sight.’
That is not true, Snowy Hydro is underwriting the Kurri Kurri gas plant.
https://infrastructurepipeline.org/project/kurri-kurri-power-station
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Oops.
img src=”https://climateaudit.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/callendar-1938-logarithm-annotated.png” alt=”Calendar model” />
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https://climateaudit.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/callendar-1938-logarithm-annotated.png
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Interesting graph. What he is saying that we would get a rise of 0.7℃ since 1938 and might get a rise in temperature of another 0.5℃ by the time we reach 550 p.p.m. (IF we ever do).
Mind you his temperature figures for the 1938 figure were (to use a phrase then current) “scantier than a bride’s nighty”.
Mind you, they were somewhat better than the HADCRUT data where the 1855, 1856 and 1857 tmperatures for the WHOLE southern hemisphere were based on ONE thermometer in what is now Indonesia. (1858 -1861 included Sydney and Melbourne so we know they are more reliable).
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I’m still waiting for a warmist to give me an example of any place in the world which is an exception to the law:
More unreliables = higher consumer electricity prices.
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western Australia
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Eh? Not many renewables used in WA – 80% of the power comes from coal and low-cost gas, with gas used as peakers. That’s why WA energy cost is so low.
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Well it does vary a bit. 40% RE seems to be the current upper limit with 4 to 6% the lower.
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LOL. foot in mouth, yet again, PF?
Currently, WA is 1531MW Gas, 983MW Coal…. and .. wait for it.. 71MW of wind !
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The only transition that was supposed to work was the transitioning of money from your pocket to theirs, that transition is not stalling in fact it is accelerating.
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A sensible man asking questions that all in charge should be asking. Is there anyone like this on the Labor/Greens side in Australia?
Fifteen minutes with Joe Manchin last month – “Sen. Joe Manchin Questions Witnesses During U.S.-Canada Energy And Minerals Partnership Hearing”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2-QKQPCUsQ&t=3s
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Hi Janet,
I think we can include politicians and public serpents across the whole political spectrum in this continue.
This tragedy is based solely on one aspect of human endeavor, Greed and is otherwise politically ambivalent.
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In this “con”.
Thank you Autocorrect.
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What’s “modern” hydropower? (3.6% Fig 1) i.e. what is the earliest build date to be considered “modern”?
Aus 5500 MW Snowy Hydro goes back 70+ years now.
NZ also 70+. By the early 1950s over 1,000 MW. Major Nth Island (Waikato River 700+ MW) by early 1960s. Major Sth Island 540 MW Benmore Power Station (1966), the 700 MW Manapouri power station (1971), the 848 MW Upper Waitaki River Scheme (1977–85) and the 432 MW Clyde Dam (1992).
If these are excluded in Australasia there’s very little “modern” hydropower.
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Queensland Greens voter enjoying first weeks of Net Zero with no electricity
Jane Crenshaw, from Indooroopilly, who tweeted ‘GREENSLAND’ just after the election, further tweeted that having no electricity was just the price to pay to save the planet.
‘Yeh so like, this is like all the boomers’ fault. If we had wind and solar as reliable baseload power this wouldn’t happen. We need to cut carbon emissions otherwise we’ll kill the planet,’ Jane tweeted.
‘This is all part of the greater good. If your grandmother freezes to death then she should have spent money on solar panels and batteries to ensure that this won’t happen. Stupid boomers.’
Simon Holmes A Court and Monique Ryan both tweeted their support for Jane, with Ryan stating she’ll be sending 4000 plastic corflutes to promote net zero in Brisbane this week.
Yes it’s satire, but these days it’s harder and harder to tell…
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Green power should be opt in and they pay the high price.
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It looks like it might be a long summer here in Northeast Ohio, USA; First warm day of the year (95F, 35c) and our first blackout. Fortunately it was of short duration (about 30 minutes). NERC (The North American Electric Reliability Corporation) did warn us that we are at elevated or high risk of blackouts this summer.
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It is possible to put a Nuclear Reactor/s remotely and deliver the current by Ultra High DC transmission lines up to 3,000 km. Basslink operates this way but at a lower voltage.
I don’t see any of the renewables being built near there source and it isn’t possible to put them close enough together for Ultra high DC transmission. Near Olympic Dam might be a plausible location for a group of Reactors.
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Why would you need long-distance transmission lines with SMRs? Just locate the SMRs close to where they are needed.
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And I wouldn’t use Basslink as an example of anything – it’s gone broke.
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So now the goal is to shut up all opposition
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Yes.
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We’re still doomed, then?
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Think this will help?
“Biden Energy Secretary: Buy an EV Peasant!”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/06/15/biden-energy-secretary-buy-an-ev-peasants/
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Bro if you can’t afford gas just buy a 70k Tesla bro
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Thursday 16 June, 2022
Albanese
@AlboMP
Today we signed the Australian Government’s new
target to cut emissions by 43% by 2030.
Our target has the support of big business, unions, and
environmental groups who came together in Parliament
House for the signing.
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Isn’t the graph Jo posted from 2017? I’m sure the mix hasn’t changed all that much, but would be interesting to see what the mix looks like in the 2020s, because I’m sure the greenies will insist that there has been heaps of progress in the last 5 years…
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I’ve heard people talking about using decommissioned coal mines as pumped hydro facilities in WA and other places. How viable do you guys think this is? My thinking is that there wouldn’t be enough suitable mines for this to scale, as they’d need to be both close to a water source to fill them up and at suitable elevations (an open cast mine next to an underground mine).
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Or any old mine. I think there was a project supposed to happen in SA but haven’t heard anything about it for a couple of years. May have fallen foul of reality.
There was also a larger scheme in either northern NSW or Qld. Cant remember.
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The SA scheme did not get started. The one in N Qld is Genex at Kidston, almost entirely public funding, talked about for years may one day complete. Believe it when you see it, like Snowy2.0
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I wouldn’t be thinking about using pumped hydro in WA, as it’s mostly very flat. And we turn our old mines into very big open cuts.
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After a few days of good wind, very exciting in some circles, we are back in wind drought territory today.
This morning SA was importing and burning both gas and diesel.
This evening SA is importing a third of their demand, while local generation is 84% gas and 10% diesel. The contribution of the wind is 5% of demand at 3% of capacity.
The wind has picked up to 76MW in WA.
Have a look at the widget and get all your friends and relations to do the same.
Hydro is running at 70% of capacity, seriously lowering the level of the reservoirs. Pray for a good snow melt and summer rain.
The people at RenewEconomy only see good news – record wind in SA on Tuesday night.
See how they respond to the questions raised in the comments!
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Very little renewables visible anywhere right now Rafe.
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SA wind is producing just 13MW at the moment !
Gas, diesel and brown coal imports are running the state… YET AGAIN !!
Isn’t that just wonderful 😉
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Ha! Take that, Malinauskas!
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What a pity that Simon does not understand what “greenhouse gases” really are. Water vapor is 98% of greenhouse gases. CO2 contributes bugger all. WE could have 10 times the CO2 level in the atmosphere, and it wouldn’t mean a jot.
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Actual science does not support warming due to anthropogenic, or man-made, climate change. Check out the comments/research by polymath climatologists such as Dick Lindzen at MIT or Princeton’s Will Happer who ran research at the Department of Energy for several years. Both told me that man-made climate change is so minuscule as to not be measurable.
There is plenty of additional evidence to support Dick & Will from other erudite climate researchers. Anthropogenic climate change is a religion. Peter
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