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    Annie

    Good Morning Everyone!
    Three cheers for B and RI being sorted!

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      Yonniestone.

      Yeah took their sweet time though, Vic Liberals have sat on this for years and did what?

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        MP

        What was Dan building with the money, who pays it back, what is Slomo actually doing about it.
        Has Dan spent any/all of it, I have looked into it and can find nothing specific, just a lot of Gunna.

        SMH, No financial commitments had been made under the arrangement, which was largely seen as symbolic, but it had driven foreign policy disputes between Victoria and the federal government after more than a year of tension with Beijing.

        So Slomo is claiming to of done something about what is basically nothing, how Slomo of him. Gums flapping in the breeze again.

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          Strop

          Clearly it was only symbolic to China because they broke the terms of cooperation when they imposed tariffs on Vic farmers.

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            MP

            So in retaliation for for them doing something, Slomo did what exactly, signaled his virtue on behalf of all Australians.
            What has he done since his election.
            We flew him back from Hawaii and he did not put out one fire, Abbott would of been in there hose in one hand, un-peeled onion in the other and owning it!

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      robert rosicka

      I had no idea he was also involved with Iran and Syria ! No wonder we call him Chairman Dan.

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    Travis T. Jones

    Who is this “us” you speak of, Kemosabe …

    [global warming] is making us crazy

    https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/06/05/features/climate-change-making-us-crazy

    You don’t have to be crazy to ‘believe’ in UN doomsday global warming, but, some sort of underlying mental condition sure helps.

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      Maptram

      I agree you have to have some underlying mental condition to believe in climate change, but you have to be crazy to believe that stopping CO2 emissions will stop climate change.

      We have had solar panels, windmills, batteries and the next big thing is hydrogen, to be used in houses, cars, trucks, trains, ships etc. As they say, all that comes out of the exhaust is water. I presume that’s water vapour. I wonder if the climate models have been adjusted to predict what would happen if the water vapour from millions of houses, cars, trucks, trains etc was to be released into the atmosphere.

      Clouds, fog, rain (sometimes floods), humidity all come from water vapour so to increase water vapour in the atmosphere could cause climate change rather than stop it

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        Tilba Tilba

        I agree you have to have some underlying mental condition to believe in climate change, but you have to be crazy to believe that stopping CO2 emissions will stop climate change.

        Yes – my underlying mental condition is rationality, and a belief in the data and the climate science.

        There is absolutely no doubt (in my rational mind) that the planet is warming, and that increased atmospheric CO2 from industrial-scale human activity is one of the causes of this warming. The question is where do we go from here to ensure a good life for people for the next 50 years.

        I do agree that wind turbines and solar panels have their problems. But there is no way that this recognition of those problems takes away from the fundamental science … that AGW is occurring.

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          robert rosicka

          Do you have any “Data” that isn’t either a theory or a model because I’d love to see it.

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          John R Smith

          Tilba,

          “There is absolutely no doubt (in my rational mind) that the planet is warming,”
          We could observe warming.
          We could observe cooling.
          Which one is the natural state?
          What is the amount of warming or cooling about which we should not be alarmed?
          Does the the science you understand and trust, define an average global temp range that is good?
          If so, what is the number?

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            robert rosicka

            Please don’t question the data he gets upset.

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              John R Smith

              Know what?
              For lo these many years I’ve been trying to get my small mind around the climate issue, I’ve tried to get an answer to two basic questions …
              HOW MUCH WARMER IS IT?
              THEN, HOW WARM SHOULD IT BE?

              Crickets.
              I do know that live on a tiny little warm dot in a vast very cold universe.

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                MP

                Whats the correct level of CO2, what is the correct height of the oceans, how fast should a tree grow, what is the correct rotation of sharks, what is the correct temperature of the planet.

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              Analitik

              Please don’t question the data he gets upset.

              Yes, when observations conflict with the models, the obvious action is to alter the recordings of the observations.

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          Tilba

          As you are obviously so concerned, what steps have you taken to change your lifestyle to help mitigate the consequences of the warming and no doubt weather weirding you believe to be happening?

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          R.B.

          A rational mind would believe in the method. An irrational mind equates it with believing in dogma that has been labelled science.

          Doesn’t it concern you that “the evidence” is only the final plot that has been approved for publication? And by experts who are elitist who will not tolerate scepticism, which is labelled contrarism when everyone realised how anti-intellectual it was to frown upon scepticism.

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          el gordo

          ‘ … atmospheric CO2 from industrial-scale human activity is one of the causes of this warming.’

          I’m fairly sure the main cause was a warm PDO and CO2 had no part to play. The scientific evidence is irrefutable, do try and keep up.

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          PeterPetrum

          As Tony Heller has pointed out here, there is no doubt man is changing the temperatures, but by changing the historic data, not by emitting CO2. He shows graphically that 2001 and several years in the late 1939 wee much and consistently warmer than now (as it was here in Australia too) and that NASA has deliberately changed the data to show a warming trend from 1900 where non exists, as has our BOM. What these, so called, authorities are doing to our temperature records is criminal. When will they be brought to justice?

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    Richard Jenkins

    Where did George Floyd get a fake $20?

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      John R Smith

      Wow, good question.
      Counterfeiting used to be a serious Federal crime.
      “Every cop is a criminal and all the sinners Saints
      Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name”

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        Jojodogfacedboy

        You can buy tons of fake money from China in just about any denominations you want.
        They class it as being used for movies and pretty good quality.
        Most have a Chinese stamp on but others don’t as the paper is of poor quality.

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      Hasn’t the mafia been making them since 1884?

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      Yonniestone.

      He was also a Counter-thief amongst the rest of the rap sheet?

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        Ian

        “He was also a Counter-thief amongst the rest of the rap sheet?

        So he deserved what he got then?

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          Yonniestone

          With enough Fentynal in his system to potentially kill someone 3 times over I’d suggest self inflicted harm was a major contribution to his death.

          But sure try to attack my morality you pathetic troll.

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            PeterPetrum

            One of the jurors has admitted on air that she gave a guilt verdict purely to prevent street riots and to make sure she was not attacked personally. So much for a fair trial!

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          Kevin kilty

          Strawman. This was a situation guaranteed to not come out well. Floyd not only had Fentanyl in his system, but also methamphetamine, but he swallowed even more of the pills so he would get caught with possession. He had serious heart troubles and he was fighting with the police — what part of this did George Floyd do right?

          He didn’t just try to pass the counterfeit $20, but had purchases in hand he refused to give back. It was the store owners who called the police in the first place. He was trying to pass the counterfeit bill at the request of his drug dealer, who had plenty more, and who refused to testify at the trial over self-incrimination.

          I doubt you paid much attention to the trial or the evidence from it.Most people made up their minds about this case way last spring using their “gut” and refuse to consider alternatives.

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      Pauly

      Both Floyd and Chauvin worked at the El Nuevo Rodeo, the Mexican Cantina and Dance Club.

      The following link follows a trail of ownership and busts at this business, which suggest it was being used by one (or more) three letter agency as a front, producing counterfeit currency, and purportedly laundering money.

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/05/31/sunday-talks-crump-on-floyd-we-dont-understand/

      The problem for Floyd, who worked security at the club, and Chauvin, who worked as head of security for 17 years, was the COVID lockdowns. The “front” business had to shut up shop, so Floyd lost his job. The back end business had to slow down, because that activity would become obvious. So Floyd “borrowed” some of the counterfeit bills, and the story subsequently unfolds.

      I’ve never heard an explanation for why Chauvin turned up at the scene. But you can speculate to your heart’s content why the issue of counterfeit money was never brought up, why Chauvin’s supervisory role in charge of Floyd was never raised, and why no details of the El Nuevo Rodeo we’re ever discussed during the trial.

      I’m expecting a rapid appeal. Just on the basis of evidence alone.

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        Kevin kilty

        There is a lot of conspiracy theorizing at your link, which is outdated as it stands, but what I object to is the ex cathedra statement that Chauvin killed Floyd no doubt about it. There was no clear evidence from the trial that he did. Any statement to this “fact” is called into question first by the alternative video showing that Chauvin had his knee on Floyds deltoid muscle, not his neck, and second by Chauvin calling for the EMTs once he allegedly recognized a drug overdose situation.

        I think the jury verdict was utterly unsurprising considering that the Minneapolis Tribune all but identified the jury members, “civic” groups were threatening to riot, and the President of the U.S. and a U.S. Congress member from Los Angeles prejudiced the proceedings. This is where the reversal will come from.

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        James

        I head that Chauvin wanted to take a plea deal on the matter. He is in trouble for Federal Tax Fraud as well. Neither of them were good people.

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    Tel

    Happy Earth Day to you.

    Happy Earth Day to you.

    Happy Earth Day comrade Lenin.

    Happy Earth Day to you!!!

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      Tilba Tilba

      Some of us think Earth Day is a good thing. Us genuine old hippies.

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      OldOzzie

      John Kerry didn’t exactly rake in the viewers during President Biden’s YouTube summit on climate

      Some people are calling out JunkScience.com founder Steve Milloy for getting his numbers from the American Sign Language version of President Biden’s Leaders Summit on Climate and not the main English feed. Still, considering climate change is the biggest issue of our time (according to Biden during the Democratic primary debates) and that Biden is the most popular president in history, we’ll allow it.

      Replying to @JunkScience
      Down to 123 YouTube viewers for Joe Biden’s #LeadersClimateSummit.

      The public is not interested in climate BS.
      4:04 AM · Apr 23, 2021

      Steve Milloy
      @JunkScience
      Replying to @JunkScience

      A mere 23 people on You Tube watching Kerry deliver closing remarks on Day 1 of Joe Biden’s #LeadersClimateSummit.

      Climate is not only a hoax and a fraud… it’s a yawn.

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    John R Smith

    “Kemosabe …”
    I am .015 American Indian.
    I am offended.
    Otherwise hysterical.
    Thanks, now but I have to drive to my medication (thank Gaia for spell check) meditation class in my Prius.

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      John R Smith

      jeez, meant as reply to #2

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        Annie

        If you are replying to the last comment it is very easy to use the comment box without having used the reply button. Make sure you use the reply button and not the new comment box at the bottom of tge thread.

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    Peter C

    FRANK – the voice of free speech

    This site has only been in existence for 3 days. They claim to attracted 2B (?2 billion) hits in that short time.

    I haven’t watched much of it because it is all live broadcasts and I don’t have that much time.

    Pointman says the site has been under sustained cyber attack to shut it down. He keeps putting up new links to the site.
    https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2021/04/19/emergency-post/

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    Strop

    Friends Of Science Newsletter #344 – 19 Apr 2021

    https://friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=2564

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    Topics/Articles include:

    Climate ‘Emergency’? Not So Fast

    Correcting Mixed‐Phase Clouds Over the Southern Ocean

    Including Ocean Eddies in Models Reduce Sea Level Rise Projections by 25%

    Solar Variability Is Tied to the Onset of Decadal La Nina Events

    Ocean Temperatures Over the Last 700 000 Years from an Antarctic Ice Core

    Mass Balance of the Antarctic Ice Sheet 1992–2016

    Climate Blame Game: Are We Really Causing Extreme Weather?

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      el gordo

      Following up on the Antarctic ocean temperature, what are they suggesting?

      ‘The study’s key findings: Mean ocean temperatures have been very similar over the last seven ice ages, averaging about 3.3 °C colder than the pre-industrial reference period, as already suggested by syntheses of deep water temperatures from marine sediments. However, ocean temperatures in the warm periods 450,000 years ago were much colder and CO2 concentrations were lower than in our present warm period, despite similar solar radiation.’

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    Hanrahan

    Biden has just said that the US has over 120 mil dead from the rona. The truth is a still shocking 565,630. from CDC.

    When is America as an entity going to stop shrugging its shoulders and take his cognitive state seriously? But does it matter if they don’t?

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      Serp

      A third of the population that’d be; we’re being toyed with and objectors to this ongoing campaign of mass intelligence insult shall likely as not be cancelled or gulagged.

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      Yonniestone.

      “9 out of 10 doctors agree that breathing is essential for living” Dr Jill Biden.

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      Yonniestone.

      “9 out of 10 doctors agree breathing is essential for living” Dr Jill Biden.

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    This will only apply to all those ex Military people who come here, and perhaps some others. While I am alluding to it, I’m not going to tell you outright, but this is just a general thought on the slackness of the media, and probably some relief on my part that it did not come to this. And while some of you may think I’m perhaps drawing a long bow by even mentioning it in the first place, I could just ‘see’ what would have happened.

    It’s to do with Tom Moore, that wonderful old gentleman in the UK who at the age of 99, raised all that money for the UK NHS charities.

    Now, for those ex military people, one thing you remember right at the start of your basic training is the rank structure, and while it concentrates specifically on the Service you are in, (in my case the RAAF) it takes years (if you are even interested in it) to then learn the rank structures in the other Services, and their equivalence to your own Service.

    Tom Moore served in WW2, and as an Officer, rose to the rank of Captain before the War ended, and he then resumed his normal life.

    Then came this wonderful effort so late in life to ‘do something’.

    Very quickly the Media latched on to it, and he was dubbed Captain Tom, so in a way, I for one was thankful that he did only reach that rank of Captain, and not the next rank up the ‘ladder’.

    Also, as you go through your ‘career’ in the Military, you also learn, well, some anyway, that the Senior ranks, very senior, well, when they retire, they are automatically raised to the next Substantive rank, not that it matters, because they are now not in the Military any more.

    So, when everyone became involved in the ‘Captain Tom’ story, the Military became involved in a manner, and as a special honour, he was raised in ‘Honorary Rank’. However, and probably showing some forethought raised him in rank more than just that one rank.

    So, now, the forethought part of it comes into play.

    The people involved usually just raise them the one rank, and here, Tom Moore was raised three ranks.

    That first one rank to skip the perceived (and undoubtedly what would have happened had he been raised just that one rank) problem with the Media, and the second was to Lieutenant Colonel, and people might ordinarily drop the Lieutenant part of that rank, so Tom Moore was raised to the rank of full (Honorary) Colonel.

    That very effectively took the whole thing away from something that the media would have latched onto, as (a) perhaps thoughtlessness on behalf of the Military or to (b) make something out of it other than what the whole thing actually was.

    I cannot even begin to think how it would have gone had he not been fortunate enough to ‘only’ be a Captain at the time, or then raised just that one rank.

    Tony.

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      Len

      Hello Tony, This being promoted to the next rank ceased around 1973. The major in charge of my sub unit retired in time so he was a promoted to Lieutenant Colonel. He would the be addressed as Colonel. If he had not retired when he did he would have been discharged as a Major.

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      I actually AM surprised that no one mentioned the David Bowie song.

      Tony.

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        robert rosicka

        Major Tom of course ! , When testing out stereo systems after the advent of CD’s we used “Five miles out” from Mike Oldfield and turned the sound up as far as it would go.
        A quality system would handle it but a lesser system would overload the speakers .

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          Ah! Mike Oldfield. The gift that keeps on giving.

          In 1972, Richard Branson used the money from his record shop to start up Virgin Records.

          He leased studio time at to a young musician Mike Oldfield at his large Country residence The Manor House. Oldfield was just developing his early style, and ‘did’ Tubular Bells at that studio. Oldfield couldn’t sell his ‘concept’ album to any of the music ‘houses’ and Branson took it on to release that album Tubular Bells, his first album release for Virgin Records, and (I think) his only release for around a year, and after Tubular Bells took off, artists came to him. The rest is history so they say. For a year or so, Oldfield was his only ‘signing’. Branson made millions from it after the movie took off, using that music.

          Oldfield released a boxed set of his first four albums, done in Quadraphonic, and because of that it didn’t sell all that well here in Oz. I do have one of those boxed sets. Inside, along with the four albums is a wonderful LP sized colour magazine with many pages, some showing Oldfield with his vast array of Instruments, and photographed at Branson’s Manor House Studio.

          One of the songs on that fourth album, a compilation of new music is the amazing Portsmouth, a Navy Reel from 1701 originally. Oldfield did the music clip. He played all the instruments, and one of the dancers on the clip is his sister Sally Oldfield.

          Link to music video of Portsmouth.

          Amazing music, and the very start of Richard Branson’s fortune.

          Tony.

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            Great Aunt Janet

            Ah, Tubular Bells – I picked up my first husband to those addictive tunes, and then got a better one who plays Space Odyssey on his ukulele, just for me.

            Very clever of you to think of Captain Tom’s lucky escape! Interesting background to your witty observation too, thanks.

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        RicDre

        The David Bowie song was called Space Oddity which is why I mentioned the Shiny Toy Guns song which is actually called Major Tom. And there was the version of Space Oddity done by Cat Power for a Cadilac comercial:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0wPec9AtI

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        Analitik

        as I read you OP, Tony, I was thinking about how wonderful it would have been him being Major Tom!

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      TedM

      ” it takes years (if you are even interested in it) to then learn the rank structures in the other Services, and their equivalence to your own Service.”
      Totallt true Tony. I’m 74 yo and ex-army (tech elec), still have to ask my ex-navy friends about equivalent ranks in that service.

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    David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

    Morning all,
    There’s an interesting ad in last weekend’s Australian (April 17-18, 2021) on page 8, entitled “Global Climate Catastrophies” by the Climate Study Group. It generally supports a sceptical view, so is great to see, but it does have a flaw, at least in my view.
    Under the heading “Energy Policy” it includes the sentence “The CO2 is returned to the atmosphere which at 0.04% is deficient for plant growth and well below past levels.”
    It’s the word “deficient” with which I disagree.
    It implies that at these levels plants are not growing, which is obviously incorrect.
    I suggest that the term “sub-optimal” would be better, being both correct and supportive of their theme.
    This misuse changes the value of the ad from useful to suspect, maybe counterproductive in one word.

    Cheers,
    Dave B

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      Kalm Keith

      Yes.

      There were a few issues like that.
      They didn’t, for example mention that the last glacial maximum ended about 20,000 years ago; reading their blurb you might have been led to believe that warming/the big melt only started 12,800 years back.

      There was also iirc an issue with sea levels.

      Good intent but not proof read by “experts”.

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    Liberator

    What happened to Earth Hour the other week or so ago? If it wasn’t for our company putting out a blurb about it and asking us to do the right thing,(whatever that really is), I would not have known it was even happening.

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      John F Hultquist

      Other than the making of digital images, some rather colorful and interesting, I missed the whole shebang (hebang, theybang, whobang). I forgot to set fire to the pile of cuttings I assembled. Darn!
      Do search up ” earth hour posters art “.
      The share_your_bath_water poster is funny, at least.

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    RicDre

    Aussie PM Joins the Biden Climate Push, Promises Not to Change Anything

    Guest essay by Eric Worrall

    OK, he is making one change. Aussie PM Scott Morrison will spend $263 million on carbon capture, and $275 million building coal powered clean hydrogen hubs, which won’t capture carbon, at least not straight away.

    Of course we would all be better off with politicians who completely rejected the idea of squandering taxpayers money to appease greens, but there are not many politicians with the balls to tell greens exactly what they think of their green energy ideas. Having said that, a politician who squanders hundreds of millions of dollars on fake climate solutions is a bit more tolerable than a politician who squanders trillions of dollars.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/21/aussie-pm-joins-the-biden-climate-push-promises-not-to-change-anything/

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      el gordo

      We need infrastructure spending and this is a win win situation for Morrison, but putting that aside, at the international climate fest he will tell China not to lecture us. We are on our own path and won’t be pressured by hypocrites.

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    I read an article on the ABC website a few weeks back about the passing of Lou Ottens, the inventor of the Cassette Tape. (that article is at this link) It was mentioned that this invention brought music to the masses.

    I sort of scoffed at the article, because when Cassettes came into vogue, well everybody had access to music.

    This was long before FM radio, Walkmans, CDs, Ipods and digital music, so realistically all we did have was AM radio, and record players, so LPs (and 45s as well I guess) were always there.

    I was in the RAAF, and in the early 70s, Defence was ‘bleeding’ people hand over fist, as they elected discharge way more often than usual, so the Government introduced a bonus if their people signed on again at the end of their current term. That bonus was a ‘middling’ amount of $1000, and at the time that was relatively substantial.

    I already had a small (and growing substantially) collection of LPs and a small record player at the time.

    What I wanted was to get a good sound system to better enhance my access to those LPs.

    With my bonus, I sank all of it into that sound system. Others around me just shook their heads in disbelief, but I had seen those thousand dollar bonuses frittered away on alcohol, so I wanted something substantive out of it.

    My ‘record guy’, now knowing my tastes in music, as I was such a good customer, usually an LP once every fortnight, recommended a new HiFi shop, rund by a Korean family not long opened in Hunter Street in Newcastle, and didn’t they look after me.

    I spent most of one whole day in the store deciding what to get hold of.

    I mentioned the grand, and wanted everything to make up to that full amount, a good record deck, belt drive here, (knowing the difference between belt and direct and preferring belt drive, a personal thing) an Amplifier, a double Cassette player/recorder, a Receiver, and this was for the now soon coming FM radio, and Speaker boxes.

    I made the full selection over hours, as they were just glad of the thousand coming their way, when that middling amount was something even to retailers.

    What they did next surprised even me. They upgraded each of my selections to the next model better than that from the same brand manufacturer. They also threw in a good set of headphones, (Harmon Kardon,) and three boxes of new Hitachi UD C90 blank tapes. The only recommendation they added was that I purchase diamond styluses for the record player, and I got five of them for the extra money to make it almost fully to the thousand dollars. Diamond styli lasted (infinitely) longer than the cheaper ones, and I got years and years out of those, and as the last one tapped out, that record player was now really ‘long in the tooth’, even with replacement belts along the way.

    Now my record collection actually started to really grow.

    Okay, so now back to that article about cassettes bringing music to the masses. I scoffed at that, because I had plenty of access to music, and sort of expected the same to be the case for everybody.

    However, a week or so after reading the article I had a good think about it. I was in one of those three story Barrack blocks with 12 rooms, with Now two guys to a room, instead of the original design for four to a room. So, on my floor there were 24 blokes, and I actually was the only one with a sound system with a good record player.

    So, the article about the cassettes was in fact correct, as soon they started appearing more often.

    The first Cassette tape I actually purchased was my favourite LP (Neil Young’s Harvest,) becaue my second car (I traded the 69 Corolla on a 72 Corolla) had a cassette deck, a new extra on cars now.

    As to the records, I now had a really good double tape recorder (so recording tape to tape) and now three dozen blanks. The advantage of those UD C90s was that you could record one full LP to one side of the tape, so I immediately started to record my albums. Every so often I would go back there and get a new box of a dozen blank tapes.

    For too long now (at that time) I had been to so many ‘parties’ where there were three groups of people, one gathered around the keg outside, even in Winter, the second group of ‘heads’ inside lounging on the floor looking at the projected oil slide on the wall and drinking Green Ginger Wine, (yuk) and the third group gathered around the music. For so long I had seen so many records destroyed. As I was usually the designated driver, being a hard core Grade cricketer, I didn’t want alcohol degrading my performance.

    So when it came to my supplying the music, and I had by now got a ‘rep’ as having a large choice of music, I could supply that with the Cassette tapes, and I was the only one who played my records. I wore Harvest and Dark Side Of The Moon virtually flat, so they were the only two LPs replaced across the years.

    So when I read that article I was skeptical at first, but it actually was true in fact.

    And now, even the humble cassette has gone the way of the Dodo.

    Life is so good.

    Tony.

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      John F Hultquist

      Meanwhile, the 8-track tape came and went.
      I hardly noticed.

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      Flok

      Tony, in a way this has been a fortunate time span to have witnessed technology advancements in all areas of life, not just music. From radio to LP’s, TV’s, Tapes, CDs and digital storage, an indication of how much music matters to all. Perhaps it is a noise that we rather listen to instead of the one being generated in our own heads.

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        …..an indication of how much music matters to all. Perhaps it is a noise that we rather listen to instead of the one being generated in our own heads.

        This made me smile.

        Back in 1977, I was attached from 77 Squadron down to the major hangar where they carried out the Major Servicings, D and E, virtual overhauls, and they used to play the radio over the speakers in the hangar while we worked.

        There were songs that the guys would sing along with.

        One of them was The Bee Gees More Than A Woman, from Saturday Night Fever.

        Only, because it was always in the Bee Gees style, the words were sometimes not easily discernible.

        So, when that song came on, you could guys from all over the hanger singing along with the chorus ….. “Bald headed woman, she’s a bald headed woman to me.”

        It was our own ‘in joke’.

        Incidentally, on the day of my discharge, the Senior Electrical Warrant Office Engineer at my unit had me in his office for the goodbye bit.

        He mentioned that he had checked though my ROE, (my Air Force electrical tradesman history) and he told me that I was the only electrical tradesman in the Air Force to be checked out on every Mirage Servicing, BF, AF, BTF, A, C, D, E, and E3.

        Pretty hard really as there had only been three E3s in all that time. That’s based on airframe flying hours and is the major end servicing. I did one in my time in that hangar. That E3 is the complete overhaul of everything back to the bare metal airframe, and takes 9 Months, and only three Mirages in all that time had reached that number of airframe hours.

        Tony.

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      Chad

      With the various changes in music media…vinyl, tape, CD, MP3, Video, etc etc, combined with multiple house (and country !) moves, …my 70s/80s “HiFi” and Vinyl had been in storeage for near 30 years.
      However, recent COVID restrictions created the opportunity to retrieve, restore, and recommission the “retro” system..Turntable, amp, speakers, etc.
      Much time was needed to repair & restore the (Belt Drive) turntable and tone arm to good working order ..relearning stylus pressure and side skate adjustments etc.
      Vinyl cleaning is also a relearning exercise !
      CD deck fired up, no problem, but the cassette deck seeems to be a lost cause !!
      Connections are the traditional “Phono” jacks, and luckily i had kept huge amounts of those cables.
      It is reefreshing to work with a “spaggetti” webb of simple cables , without a single USB, HDMI, Optical/Digital connector in sight.

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      Graeme#4

      You were right in selecting a belt drive turntable Tony. Rim drives often had minor flat spots on the drive wheel, causing small drive fluctuations and “wow” in the speakers.

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      Deano

      Some of the HiFi gear that was based on crack-pot science makes the current climate change cult look like pure honesty. Super expensive speaker cable that had been aligned to the Earth’s magnetic field, special mats to put under your turn table and speaker coils wound in any number of special geometric patterns that all claimed to provide superior sound. Quite funny some of them.

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        Graeme#4

        And still is. Nobody will convince me that valves, with their short lifetimes and poor non-linear transfer characteristics, will produce better “Hi-Fi” sound than modern FETs.

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        Analitik

        The ultimate in hi-fi crackpot science are the special power leads that some hi-fi (over)enthusiast swear as “transforming” the clarity/smoothness/detail/etc of their system. As if somehow a short piece of unicorn lead will alter the electron flow that has passed through the transmission grid with all the lines and step up/down transformation and switching steps and then the household wiring.

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        yarpos

        My old boss used to spend mega $ on hifi witchcraft. Stickers on chips (!?) Unobtanium speaker cables and the one I really like was $300 HDMI cables. I said to him mate , its digital you know ones and zeros, and spending more money wont change the quality of the ones and zeros if its working in the first place. To this day when we are out to lunch and somebody is talking about overkilling things he leans across the table and says ” what you reckon? ones and zeros?”

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    Peter Fitzroy

    The NSW government has paid $100 million to put a stop to coal mining on prime agricultural land on the Liverpool Plains in the state’s north-west.

    Is this a good or bad deal?

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      el gordo

      I sincerely salute all those who put up a valiant fight over more than a decade. Its a credit to them and the utopians fully support Premier Gladys. There is a by-election coming up, is this a risky venture or a shrewd political move?

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        Peter Fitzroy

        Considering that it took a mere 100 million 🙂 it values each vote needed to turn it to a liberal seat at around 5 million. I think I’ll move there

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          el gordo

          Value for money, they would have done their polling and reckoned they’ll come home in a canter.

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          Hanrahan

          I think I’ll move there

          How good a farmer are you? The old days of walking behind a plough was hard work. Doesn’t sound like you.

          Today’s farmers use science, REAL science, that doesn’t sound like you either. Do a search on “topcropper” on the somersoft chat site [now defunct], a farmer on the Liverpool Plains. Young farmers today would SHAME you. They know the difference between real science and BS science, they want to keep their farms productive.

          Just what will yo do when you get there? Bludge? There is prolly no cafe set.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            Grow up

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              Hanrahan

              You wanted to go there. Prey tell WHY you think you would fit into a working community? You sound like a permanent undergraduate to me.

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                el gordo

                Hanrahan, after the pandemic there has been a movement to the bush, generally known as tree changers. They are snapping up all the properties in the towns the moment they are listed, its a new gold rush.

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                Analitik

                It seems to me that Peter Fitzroy is eminently qualified for subsidy farming.

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                el gordo

                Here is the question again.

                The NSW government has paid $100 million to put a stop to coal mining on prime agricultural land on the Liverpool Plains in the state’s north-west.

                Is this a good or bad deal?

                Its a very good thing kicking the Chinese leaseholder in the face, very timely. The farmers and graziers are overjoyed that we have saved the Great Artesian Basin for posterity and their environment will remain habitable.

                The miners are also happy, there is plenty of work on elsewhere in the state.

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                I’d say good. Good agricultural land is hard to find and if it was off limits due to mining we’d be clearing land somewhere else.

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      Dave

      Agree it’s good, but wish they would do the same for Solar and Wind!

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      Hanrahan

      The Liverpool Plains are the creme de la creme of agricultural land and the miners should have been locked out years ago. There is more coal in Oz than quality farm land.

      That plick Windsor sold out to the miners then got elected as a farmer and dumped on Abbot. Some of that money would have been to recompense the miner’s payment to him.

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      Step one;
      It’s now shown that the engineering aspect of wind turbines as “generators” is, was and always has been a lie.

      Perhaps it’s not impossible that we will soon see the science behind CAGW exposed as well.

      Not before time.

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        Yonniestone.

        Hey KK wind turbines have feelings you know, I asked one last week what music they liked and they said ‘I’m a big metal fan’

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    MrGrimNasty

    In the UK this chap was on BBC Radio 5 Live this morning.

    https://research.unsw.edu.au/people/professor-chris-turney

    Looking at his area of ‘expertise’ what he said and what the BBC allowed to go unchallenged is even more extraordinary.

    Apparently everyone in Oz is now OK with lunatic climate policies and recognises the need for action because you just had floods and drought and fire and you ‘never had them before’. He then proceeded to call anyone who disagreed ‘real flat-earthers’. You could hear the smirk in his voice.

    The BBC is also reporting that Oz leaders will have to ‘shift their approach’ [into line with the rest of the world] at/because of Biden’s climate conference.

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      Yonniestone.

      He can claim all he wants but I’d never trust him read a forecast or organize an expedition, he has a reputation of being a real stick in the ice.

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        Hanrahan

        Ah so! Now I remember, the Ship of Fools.

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          another ian

          Christmas Turkey and

          The Ice That Wasn’t There

          Ruth
          January 2, 2014 at 9:04 pm

          Here is something I wrote on JoNova’s blog:
          Thanks to Robert W Service for the inspiration!

          There are strange things done in the midnight sun
          By the men who moil for fame;
          The Climate Change has bedfellows strange
          That would make your brain go lame;
          The Southern Lights have seen queer sights,
          But the queerest they ever did bear
          Was the climate geeks on the Akademik
          Who got stuck in the ice-not-there.
          Now Chris Turney was from New South Wee, where the gum tree stands and grows
          Why he left his home in the South to roam ‘round the Pole, God only knows.
          He was always hot, (no matter what), and often channelled Mao;
          And he’d often say in his arrogant way “The Ice has Melted now.”
          On Christmas Eve with Argo’s leave they were slow to find the trail
          Talk of your cold! Through the parka’s fold it stabbed like a driven nail.
          If eyes they’d close, then their lashes froze till sometimes they couldn’t see;
          It wasn’t much fun, but the only one to tweet was Chris Turney.
          And that very night, they got a fright – their ship was in sea ice;
          And the blogs were read, and the wind they said was blowing up a vice;
          Chris Turney claimed it was “Climate Change” – the Ice had Up and Went;
          The rest had napped and they were trapped in their own experiment.
          “Sea ice has waned due to climate change, but here it’s building up!
          We have found this has changed – they all explained, there’s fresh water all about!
          And don’t you know, the seawater below, well, we can almost drink it.
          This ice which packs will have impacts so fast – you wouldn’t think it.”
          The Snow Dragon and had also come, and got stuck in the same sea ice;
          The Astrolabe tried and Turney cried so they hailed the Australis.
          The sea ice grew and tempers brewed, and those onboard got sick;
          The wind was blamed on Climate Change; that’s why the ice was thick!
          The days went by and my oh my; the media had dissed
          The simple fact the ship was packed with climate scientists!
          They tried to show the melting snow would strike our hearts with fear
          And we would back the carbon tax – if truth was far, not near.
          Now a promise made is a debt unpaid and the sea has its own stern code.
          In the days to come – though the papers were stum, we learned to love that load
          Of childish geeks and climate freaks who danced and sang and stuff.
          They howled their woes to ice and snow, and proved their warming bluff.
          The choppers came and came again – the rescue on and off;
          The Australis and the Chinese ship were struggling in a trough
          Of water cold near the South Pole so they could pluck them out
          Of their own vice in the snow and ice – “not supposed to be about.”
          These scientists were more like kids when they begged for help from Watts;
          To give the fools some weather tools, to extract them from a spot
          Of danger here and trouble there – to save them from themselves!
          The choppers came in just in time to pluck from icy shelves.
          There are strange things done in the midnight sun
          By the men who moil for fame;
          The Climate Change has bedfellows strange
          That would make your brain go lame;
          The Southern Lights have seen queer sights,
          But the queerest they ever did bear
          Was the climate geeks on the Akademik
          Who got stuck in the ice-not-there.

          https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/02/the-cause-of-the-akademik-shokalskiy-getting-stuck-in-antarctica-sigtseeing-mishaps-and-dawdling-by-the-passengers-getting-back-on-ship/#comment-1165100

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            Kalm Keith

            O.K.
            Took a while but never heard of him before.
            So this was based on “The cremation of Sam Magee”.

            It’s long, but it will be read.
            🙂

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    Ian Hill

    So all past test cricket matches are being computerised, ball by ball. There’s talk of finding another four runs for Don Bradman so his final test batting average can be 100.00 instead of 99.94. One particular bloke was scorer for the Don’s entire test career. They are exercising integrity though, saying no statistics will be altered and Wisden is not interested. Reading this reminded me of the BOM’s fiddling with past temperature observations. No integrity needed, just homogenise away, change history and cool the past!

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    Tilba Tilba

    Mike Lindell’s new frankspeech website is not going so well so far – Daily Kos link here.

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    el gordo

    There is talk that the Europeans and Americans will encourage China to be more ambitious in reducing CO2, but that seems unlikely.

    ‘Coal has powered China’s breakneck economic growth over the past four decades, but it also presents one of the biggest challenges to its climate ambitions.

    “Given that new coal-fired power plants are still being built and that steel plants will be needed, I would expect coal to continue to play a significant, though declining, role for many years.” Dr Philip Andrews-Speed (SCMP)

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    Tilba Tilba

    “Given that new coal-fired power plants are still being built and that steel plants will be needed, I would expect coal to continue to play a significant, though declining, role for many years.” Dr Philip Andrews-Speed (SCMP)

    Do we have any evidence that coal will play a declining role? It seems that China is building another thousand coal-fired power stations.

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      Ronin

      You wouldn’t want to live downwind of that joint.

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      el gordo

      The supreme leader has spoken.

      “We will strictly limit the increase in coal consumption over the 14th five-year plan period (2021-2025) and phase it down in the 15th five-year plan period (2026-2030).”

      ‘Xi’s comments imply that China’s coal consumption, by far the highest in the world, will reach a peak in 2025 and start to fall thereafter.’ (Reuters)

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        Analitik

        Australia should fully commit to following China’s CO2 emissions reductions on a 2 year trailing basis.

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    nb

    Here’s to the crazy ones,
    the misfits,
    the rebels,
    the troublemakers
    the round pegs in the square holes,
    the ones who see things differently.
    They’re not fond of rules
    and they have no respect for the status quo.
    You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify them or villify them.
    About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them, because they change things, they push the human race forward.
    And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius.
    Because the people who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who have a social credit score of zero and are confined to their homes in perpetuum without internet, books, or sufficient food.
    Thanks Apple.
    Thanks Google,
    Thanks Facebook.
    Thanks Bill.
    Thanks Nancy.
    Thanks Klaus.
    And special mention to the ones they serve.

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    Gotta’ send Jo some chocolat because she provides an avenue for petit rants like my ‘Yr handshake is yr bond.’
    which my entrepreneurial father said to me when I was but a tiny child at my mother’s knee. It should be the motto of every school, academy and workplace. We should employ it even socially ‘Yr handshake is yr bond.”I will turn up because I said I would.’

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    another ian

    Tony

    I was a user of reel to reel tapes. For those not familiar there were two common speeds

    7.5 inches/second was high quality, 3.75 not so much but acceptable. Particularly with records that had done party time.

    Common 7 inch tapes were either 1800 feet 0r 2400 feet.

    So a 2400 footer at 3.75 ips had a playing time of about 2 hours. Good for background to studying. And parties, as the recorder could be located outside the main party area.

    But, if you recorded entire albums, people wanted particular tracks which meant time rewinding and fast forwarding to locate them. Not ideal for parties.

    The next step was to make party tapes. Needed 1 recorder, 2 turntables – one for testing, one for recording, as many records as could be mustered, 1 person testing and 1 recording – and a carton of lubricant. Rule was no more than 2 tracks from one album in sequence which fixed track selection requests.

    So a 2400 foot reel gave around 2 hours a side, so 4 in total with one tape swap.

    The next step was that these were not high quality music appreciation parties so music was needed but didn’t have to be stereo. So recorded as mono there was 8 hours of music available.

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    another ian

    Meant to go with #13

    Seems that if you make an error and then go back you get bumpede out of the “reply to” queue

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    Chad

    Unexpected supporter for Coal !
    Watching Sky’s Paul Murry tonight with the obvious discussion on the “virtual” climate discussion involving Biden, ScoMo , etc etc
    Usual discussions, until Bronwyn Bishop suddenly unleashed a stream of common sence and knowledge regarding the fraud of “Net zero CO2”, solar and Wind practicality, the need for “Base Load”, and how Coal is essential, etc etc.
    All in, the most informed and simply argued presentation i have ever heard from an Australian Politician (retired).
    It was very apparent she had a more comprehensive understanding of the facts , costs, limitations , etc etc than any of the other Skeptics on the show !
    I have met this woman before, and dismissed her as a typical ageing polly, but this was an impressive presentation , by a smart, informed commentator !

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    John R Smith

    Let’s just face it.
    People who believe in ‘climate change’, that raci$m is everywhere, and wear two masks, are insatiable neurotics.
    There aren’t enough therapists in the world.
    Most of them are neurotic as hades too.
    (Likely some sinister AI lords somewhere are taking good advantage of this fact.)

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    RicDre

    ‘Serious Harm’ – China Warns Australia of Consequences After ‘Belt and Road’ Deal Scrapped

    China warned Thursday “serious consequences” await Australia after it tore up a Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) agreement between the two countries, cautioning “serious harm” to relations remain possible along with unspecified economic coercion against a country that refuses to be bullied.

    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/04/22/serious-harm-china-warns-australia-of-consequences-after-belt-and-road-deal-scrapped/

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    RicDre

    History Confirms Democrat’s 1988 Senate Global Warming Hearing Got Everything Wrong from Start to Finish

    Guest essay by Larry Hamlin

    The June 23, 1988 Democratic Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources hearing opened the door on climate alarmism in the nation with testimony from scientific “experts” and Committee Senators who offered speculation and conjecture on a host of weather and climate topics while sharing their scientifically unsupported and sensationalized doomsday perspectives.

    In reality the hearing’s climate alarmist statements and claims represented nothing but conjecture and speculation driven by the political ambitions of politicians and scientists seeking fame and additional government funding. The hearing failed to address scientifically proven and verifiable climate evidence.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/22/history-confirms-democrats-1988-senate-global-warming-hearing-got-everything-wrong-from-start-to-finish/

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    RicDre

    EV’s not family workhorses, but short range second cars

    Range Anxiety: California study may be a downer for EV excitement as it shows that EV’s are driven half as much as internal combustion engine vehicles.

    By Ronald Stein

    Ambassador for Energy & Infrastructure, Irvine, California

    With half of the EV’s in the entire country being located in California, the recent 2021 California study may be a downer for the EV excitement as it shows that EV’s are driven half as much as internal combustion engine vehicles. The study illustrates that EV’s are generally second vehicles and not the primary workhorse vehicle for those few elites that can afford them.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/22/evs-not-family-workhorses-but-short-range-second-cars/

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    RicDre

    Decarbonization and California’s 2020 Rolling Blackouts

    Reposted from the Institute of Energy Research

    APRIL 20, 2021

    “… the retirement of baseload and dispatchable generation has outpaced replacement capacity with adequate characteristics needed to maintain system reliability…. California’s electric system was ultimately unable to maintain reliable operations for the first time in almost two decades.”

    It should be front page news. Forced decarbonization of the power grid is causing severe operational and planning issues, adding costs each step of the way. Reliable, economical power generation capacity is getting sacked, and fickle, expensive resources are being substituted.

    Government regulation and planning of the grid, under a plethora of state and federal laws, is causing worst-case events. Texas 2021 was foreshadowed by California 2020, where intermittent resources also weakened a once powerful grid.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/21/decarbonization-and-californias-2020-rolling-blackouts/

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    CHRIS

    My View: Does CC exist? YES. Does GW exist? YES. Does AGW exist? NO. Is our society in the grip of neanderthal/paganistic/self-absorbed views on CC? ABSOLUTELY. Politicians of ALL parties are accountable for the mess we are now in.

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      Chad

      CHRIS
      April 23, 2021 at 1:59 am ·
      My View: Does CC exist? YES

      ? What is CC..?…..
      …Carbon Capture. ?
      ….Climate Cooling. ?
      ….Chocolate Cake. .?

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        Richard Owen No.3

        I think he meant Climate Change or possibly Complete Cr*p?

        Seriously, have you ever found anybody who denies that the climate has changed in the past (and will in the future) without human intervention, except for “CARBON Heads” who think it was perfect in 1989 (or thereabouts) and has got really hot since then.

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    RicDre

    CR Engineers Show a Tesla Will Drive With No One in the Driver’s Seat
    After a fatal crash in Texas, we demonstrated how easy it is to defeat Autopilot’s driver monitoring
    By Keith Barry
    April 22, 2021

    Consumer Reports engineers easily tricked our Tesla Model Y this week so that it could drive on Autopilot, the automaker’s driver assistance feature, without anyone in the driver’s seat—a scenario that would present extreme danger if it were repeated on public roads. Over several trips across our half-mile closed test track, our Model Y automatically steered along painted lane lines, but the system did not send out a warning or indicate in any way that the driver’s seat was empty.

    “In our evaluation, the system not only failed to make sure the driver was paying attention, but it also couldn’t tell if there was a driver there at all,” says Jake Fisher, CR’s senior director of auto testing, who conducted the experiment. “Tesla is falling behind other automakers like GM and Ford that, on models with advanced driver assist systems, use technology to make sure the driver is looking at the road.”

    https://www.consumerreports.org/autonomous-driving/cr-engineers-show-tesla-will-drive-with-no-one-in-drivers-seat/

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    MrGrimNasty

    Some realism in a few isolated corners of the UK press/net at long last, lots of interesting links/reads in the GWPF twitter account for anyone interested. I wish we had Oz Sky in the UK instead of BBC virus infected Sky.

    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6249809234001

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    RicDre

    Apparently the US congress is not destroying the US economy as fast as Mz. Thunberg would like:

    Climate Activist Greta Thunberg to Congress: ‘How Long Do You Believe People in Power Will Get Away with It?’

    “I know I’m not the one who is supposed to ask questions here but there is something I really do wonder,” Thunberg, who is 18, said. “How long do you honestly believe that people in power like you will get away with it?”

    “How long do you think you can continue to ignore the climate crisis, the global aspect of equity, and historic emissions without being held accountable,” Thunberg said.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/climate-activist-greta-thunberg-congress-long-people-power-think-away/

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    RicDre

    NBC news is once again up to no good:

    Nolte: NBC News Caught Deceptively Editing Columbus Shooting Video and 911 Call

    Far-left NBC News has once again been caught deceptively and dishonestly editing a 911 call to gin up racial tensions. Only this time, the racial arsonists took things a step further by also deceptively editing body-cam footage.

    A responsible news outlet that does not wish to see Blue Cities burned, looted, and razed by the Democrat party’s shock troops in Black Lives Matter and Antifa would use the video and 911 call –would use The Truth — as a call to calm things down, to ease tensions, to bring the national temperature down.

    But NBC is not a responsible news outlet. Rather, it is a craven, cruel, and proudly dishonest news outlet desperate to give the Democrat party the riots they so desperately need to push their racialist agenda.

    And as I mentioned above, this is not the first time NBC has been caught deliberately editing a 911 call to stir up racial hatred and division. Back in 2013, NBC maliciously edited George Zimmerman’s 911 call to smear him as a racist.

    America’s Democrats and media monsters will not be happy until every city populated with and governed by Democrats is a smoldering pile of rubble.

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/04/22/nolte-nbc-news-caught-deceptively-editing-columbus-shooting-video-911-call/

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    OldOzzie

    In Defense Of Teenage Knife Fighting

    Since when do we need the cops to intervene in the recreational stabbings of our youth?

    Just when I thought that America couldn’t possibly get any softer, people start suggesting that there’s a role for the police in preventing knife murders. The snowflake generation strikes once again.

    Is there any tradition that the radicals won’t ruin?

    As the brilliant Bree Newsome pointed out on Twitter, “Teenagers have been having fights including fights involving knives for eons.” And now people are calling the cops on them? I ask: Is this a self-governing country or not? When Newsome says “we do not need police to address these situations by showing up to the scene & using a weapon,” she may be expressing a view that is unfashionable these days. But she’s right.

    In all honesty, I worry that this sort of helicopter policing is making us weak. Back in my day, the people who survived a good stabbing came out stronger for it. I learned a lot of lessons from my time in the ring: Self-reliance, how to overcome fear, the importance of agility, the basics of military field dressing. And, given the turnover, I also learned how to make new friends.

    Today, the free-range generation to which I belong is dying out — and, this time, it is not from the wounds inflicted by everyday teenage knife fights but because our politicians and activists simply cannot leave us be. From the time of the Colosseum, our civilization has had a tradition of lightly regulated, highly entertaining combat. Who are we, exactly, to think we know better?

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    el gordo

    Artificial Intelligence used to predict sunspot behaviour and they think its possible to turn the clock back to get a grip on the past.

    https://saltbushclub.com/2021/04/23/sunspot-cycles/

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    Eddie

    It’s here. The recording of FLCCCs Weekly Meeting on Wednesday at which Dr. Pierre Kory spoke on:
    “The WHO’s Denial of Ivermectin: Big Science, Disinformation and their Impacts.”
    .
    “The WHO is completely compromised,” says Dr. Kory. “They are protecting other interests.”
    .
    “The scale of the markets (think vaccines and pharmaceutical companies) that would be affected by the approval of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 is massive. Meanwhile, because the WHO failed to recommend ivermectin for worldwide use, hundreds of thousands of the world’s most vulnerable people are now on the way to their deaths.” 😧
    .
    That’s not just the poor but medically vulnerable and genetically predisposed everywhere.
    .
    Most of it will come as no surprise to you here on Jonova. What’s gratifying is seeing the dawning realisation on these Physicians of what they are dealing with. The vested interests tieing up the WHO are enormous. FLCCC are organising to support Physicians worldwide who want it.
    .
    Bear with the first few minutes of intro & disclaimers (or skip 0:48 to 4:00).
    .
    Catch it before YouTube takes it down.
    .
    https://youtu.be/YcLnW_3_r2c

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    another ian

    For the G & T followers to add a flourish to their anti-Peking-Pox preparations

    “Alton Brown Prepares a Refreshing Gin and Tonic While Explaining the Expansive History Behind the Cocktail”

    https://laughingsquid.com/alton-brown-makes-gin-and-tonic/

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    another ian

    Chiefio

    “@Jim2:

    “Smith’s First Law Of Complaint”:

    The magnitude of the opposition to an audit is directly proportional to the original Fraud.

    And there’s a whole lot of opposition going on…”

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      Lucky

      another i ..
      that paper is really good, bad biased modeling, serious repercussions when recommendations implemented, false denial of results of others using the model..
      Bring it up with a summary in a future un-threaded?

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