Upper Class copying Censorship tactics from China

It’s not the hard and fast rules on censorship that are the worst — it’s the vague ambiguous ones. That way no one really knows what is permitted, and what isn’t. With random punishment and vague rules the underclass have to guess what is OK, and usually err on the side of silence.

Self censorship of a whole nation is so much more efficient. Otherwise the rulers need a lot of police. And if people are only punished randomly, there are no rules to work around — and the fear and guessing sets the boundaries way further out.

Communist Tactics to Force Self-Censorship Sweeping America

by Petr Svab, The Epoch Times

The principle of self-censorship is that people, just to be on the safe side, refrain from saying even things that aren’t outright banned by some applicable rules.

Vague Rules

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), the world’s most notorious censor of free speech, has for decades used the method of making its policies intentionally vague. During its past political campaigns, for instance, the central leadership would issue a decree that “rightists” and “counterrevolutionaries” were to be punished. The next lower rung of party officials wouldn’t be told what exactly makes one a “rightist” or a “counterrevolutionary” and perhaps not even what the punishment should be. No official, however, would want to be seen as too lenient—that would carry the risk of being labelled oneself. As such, each successive level of bureaucracy would intensify its interpretation of the policy, leading to ever more extreme results. In some periods, the hysteria went far beyond self-censorship as even refraining from political speech wasn’t enough.

The method appears to now be in play in contemporary America.

Amazon recently updated its policies to ban books that contain “hate speech” without explaining what it considers as such. Since Amazon controls over 80 percent of the book retail market, publishers are left to guess whether a book may get the “hate speech” label and thus be much less profitable to publish.

Perception of Random Targeting

Symbol China Map.Another method to induce self-censorship is selective enforcement. During CCP’s past political campaigns, it would pick targets for persecution seemingly at random. Even the targets wouldn’t necessarily know what exactly had brought the party’s wrath on them. In response, people would scramble to make sense of the situation, drawing red lines of self-censorship based on guesswork.

Elements of this method can be seen in various settings in the West.

When Amazon recently banned a book that criticizes transgender ideology published by Encounter Books in 2018, it didn’t explain why. Instead, Amazon quietly updated its book policies on hate speech. It then left it to the public to connect the dots and label the book as hate speech themselves.

Guilt by Denial

In current progressive ideologies, denying one is racist or has “white privilege” counts as a confirmation of the charges. In fact, any resistance to the ideology and its labels is often labeled as “white fragility” or “internalized oppression” and thus illegitimate.

Guilt by Association

Totalitarian regimes have long used this tactic, punishing family, friends, colleagues, supervisors, and other associates of dissidents.

Kari Lake, former news anchor at Fox 10 in Arizona, faced criticism for merely setting up an account on alternative social media sites Parler and Gab. The critics argued that she was guilty by association since Parler and Gab had been labeled as a favorite platform of “Nazis.”

While the attacks never made Lake question her beliefs, it did prompt her to self-censor, she told The Epoch Times in a phone call.

“I actually find myself not posting stories that are just factual because I’m like, ‘Oh, just posting that, even though it’s true, might anger some people. It might just get the left mad and I don’t want to, you know, kick the hornet’s nest,’” she said.

Read it all, there’s a lot more. 

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81 comments to Upper Class copying Censorship tactics from China

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    graham dunton

    I came across this recently, “China declares war on Bitcoin”, there is a big difference, china is designing theirs for currency control

    China Uncensored – http://www.chinauncensored.tv/bitcoin

    China declares war on Bitcoin. Inner Mongolia, where a huge amount of bitcoin mining occurs, will be banning it. But the Bitcoin news is part of a broader attempt by the Chinese Communist Party to create a national digital currency that the Party controls. We also accept bitcoin!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZU7qska34

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    tom0mason

    “Has there ever been a society which has died of dissent? Several have died of conformity in our lifetime.”

    ― Dr. Jacob Bronowski, Science & Human Values

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    diogenese2

    “counter revolution” was invented by Vladimir Lenin and published in. Pravda no. 84, June 30th 1917.
    The process, as practiced now, is to invent a crime with the suffix “-ism” or “-phobia”. The offence is undefined, defined in ambiguous, nebulous or contradictory terms, or given a blanket identity., i.e. “hate speech”. It is the accusers “philosophers stone “ turning anything into pure gold. It also reverses to burden of proof. The accused cannot deny the act or comment but must prove that it was NOT hate- speech. As this is not defined , it is just a matter of opinion – but that of the prosecuting authority.Hence, as you notice, you cannot know in advance whether anything you do or say is criminal.
    The “trial” of J.K.Rowling is a text book example of the process. Not how so many close “friends” who were obligated to her work for their careers and fortunes immediately denounced her.
    From 1984; The interrogator O’ Brien asks Winston Smith “what is 2 + 2 “. WS answers “4”. O’B. “ NO, it’s 3 or 5 or all of them at the same time. 2 + 2 is whatever The Party says it is”.
    And there you see the trap laid by “The Party”. In the J.K. Rowling case today “trans-women” are women, but TOMORROW
    these same will be sick perverts and you will be on record as not being able to tell the difference.
    That is the process of control and the only resort is total resistance. To recognise the absolute evil of these people, to give no benefit of doubt as to their “misguided” motivation. They intend to destroy you. Act on that premise, it is your only hope.

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      ExWarmist

      “The process, as practiced now, is to invent a crime with the suffix “-ism” or “-phobia”. The offence is undefined, defined in ambiguous, nebulous or contradictory terms, or given a blanket identity., i.e. “hate speech”. It is the accusers “philosophers stone “ turning anything into pure gold. It also reverses to burden of proof. “

      Sounds like a tool out of the Psychopathy Control Toolbox…

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    Global Cooling

    In oligarchy there is no rule of law. Punishments and rewards are based on who you are and who are your friends. With powerful friends you are above the law.

    Written laws become unnecessary. President can overrule the constitution with an executive order. Courts can decide what they want even directly against the law. Evidence is not needed as we remember from the impeachment trials.

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      OrigininalSteve

      Witness the new laws brought in under covid, which are in effect exactly what an invading army would put in place to keep a tight control over the invaded population.

      Everywhere you go , you have to “check in”. Why? it appears to serve no real purpose except being a burdern upon the population over a virus thats essentially not much worse than the flu.

      Want to go to Victoriatsan – you need a permit.

      “Citizen…your papers please.”

      “Now …in the words of the apparent misteress of one of the significant NWO actors some years ago :

      “Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris.

      “”We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it…

      “There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals.

      “Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them.

      “One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

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        Ted1

        The primary responsibilities of any Australian government are to:

        1. Ensure that its citizens are adequately fed,
        2. Ensure that its citizens are adequately housed, and
        3. Ensure that its citizens have freedom of movement and association.

        Many years ago I voted “No” in a referendum to introduce an “Australia Card”. Because all around the world oppressive regimes used such a process to restrict the freedom of citizens to movement and association.

        Where freedom of association and movement are restricted, availability of housing and food will soon follow.

        Australia’s reaction to the CV19 does indeed follow the lead of oppressive regimes.

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    el gordo

    The reality on the ground in China is that Beijing’s censorship program is faltering because of the burgeoning middle class. Despite massive investment to keep people quiet, internet platforms are rife with criticisms of the ruling elite.

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      William Astley

      You appear to know nothing about what it is like to live in China. China is an authoritative/non-democratic country.

      The first weapon China uses to stop free speech is fear.

      China uses state power against troublemakers.

      Any person in China who writes articles that are critical of the CCP or the Chinese leadership are labelled a trouble maker…. Regardless of what they wrote… Troublemakers disappear and or go straight to jail. Are fired. Get sick in prisons and die. In China the police go to home’s/apartments to threaten and beat up trouble makers. Trouble makers are also victims of odd crimes.

      China has the world’s first country wide face recognition and tracking system. All small purchase in China can now be made with face recognition only. Supercomputers give the state the power to completely monitor the entire population. There is no hiding.

      You are saying that if you wrote something critical…. Perhaps you would not get caught. The internet has a long memory. Would you risk the consequences? Anyone else here?

      China uses supercomputers, lots of people working at agencies, and whistle blowers to monitor/censor their internet 24/7.

      China does not have an independent judiciary. In China you are guilty if the state says you are guilty. There is no free press to tell your story to. There are no independent lawyers. Zero. It is pathetic. A single person Vs the State.

      https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/china-and-tibet#

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        el gordo

        All that you say is true, but there is still hope they may grow up one day. Here we see how naive they are, Beijing starts a global pandemic and then gloats.

        “The East is rising while the West is declining” has become a common refrain for Chinese officials ahead of the Communist Party’s centenary this summer. It has also been a popular discussion point at the annual legislative sessions under way in Beijing, where China’s handling of the Covid-19 pandemic has been lauded’. (SCMP)

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    Peter Fitzroy

    So, what is the definition of hate speech? Is it self censorship or just being polite?

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      Greg Cavanagh

      Seriously?
      This is what the article is all about. Go read it again…

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        Peter Fitzroy

        Wher in the article is the definition of hate speech? It is say that the unspecified definition is vague, but nowhere is that definition or an alternative described

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          el gordo

          ‘Hate speech is defined by the Cambridge Dictionary as “public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation”. Hate speech is “usually thought to include communications of animosity or disparagement of an individual or a group on account of a group characteristic such as race, colour, national origin, sex, disability, religion, or sexual orientation” A legal definition of hate speech varies from country to country.’ (wiki)

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            Peter Fitzroy

            Is that the standard here?
            For facebook
            “There is no universally accepted answer for when something crosses the line. Although a number of countries have laws against hate speech, their definitions of it vary significantly.

            In Germany, for example, laws forbid incitement to hatred; you could find yourself the subject of a police raid if you post such content online. In the US, on the other hand, even the most vile kinds of speech are legally protected under the US Constitution.”

            So in this case, where you are a global player, you would have to use the German example over the American one

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              R.B.

              What is wrong with you, Peter? “Hate speech” gets thrown around like a weapon against what is unacceptable purely for political reasons. The most trivial of faux past gets labelled as hate speech by people selling f@#$ Tony Abbot t shirts.

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                Peter, that there is no definition is exactly the point.

                Then they can allow the upper class to call Trump Hitler, and talk about Republic**nts but ban BlueAnon.

                If there were rules, the dissidents could hold them to their own rules. Instead there is just fear and selective enforcement.

                The Dem-Tech-Giants are apparently being advised by experts.

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    el gordo

    Beijing will censor anything they consider fake news, including rumour and innuendo.

    ‘CFR Senior Fellow Elizabeth C. Economy says the Chinese government is in a state of “schizophrenia” about media policy as it “goes back and forth, testing the line, knowing they need press freedom and the information it provides, but worried about opening the door to the type of freedoms that could lead to the regime’s downfall.” (Being Xu 2014)

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      Peter Fitzroy

      Are they the only one? Censorship exists and is practiced in every country and at every level, government and private.

      Lookup Australia whistleblower federal law

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        el gordo

        Totally agree, there are already legal restraints and they vary by country, but the Beijing political regime hold the mandate of heaven and don’t want to give it up.

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          Peter Fitzroy

          So it boils down to China Bad…

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            True Peter, China is only bad if you are Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Falong Gung, have covid, are poor, or someone who wants to choose their own leaders.

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              Peter Fitzroy

              So you are saying that uniquely only China is hard on its minorities?
              I do not understand your comment on covid and the poor
              as to leaders the chinese do elect the state and local officials, or is it somehow that there is only one party, not two faces of the same as in the West

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                Peter Fitzroy

                https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-social-mobility.html
                China is eradicating poverty, the USA is growing theirs

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                Damo

                If a prosperous nation adopts the policies of an improsperous nation and vice versa, you will probably observe that in the economic data! What point are you trying to make? Have you ever thought, it’s people with thoughts like yours are actually the cause of western economic decline!? Do you think the rise of the CCP is something to look forward too? Tell us oh wise one, your solution to our Australian response to the rise of the CCP and decline of the US? Perhaps, invest in more renewables?/sarc

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            el gordo

            The people of China hunger for democracy, but the ruling elite forbids it. Don’t stick up for Beijing, they are fascists wearing the CCP cloak.

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              ExWarmist

              Corporate Fascists. Mussolini would fit right in with the current Chinese leadership.

              It’s ironic – I wonder if Mao is spinning in his grave.

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              Peter Fitzroy

              have you ever talked to anyone from China, there is a wide range of opinions but it is summed up this way

              Chinese appreciate the the steps the government does for them. they don’t see any real advantage to change

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                Leonard

                Peter. I think you should move to China and see for yourself what this post is all about.

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                Greg Cavanagh

                Oh Wow!
                Jo needs to frame this one.

                Please, do tell more. Which people have you had conversations with and what do they like so much about the communist leadership?

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                Peter Fitzroy

                After working in Hong Kong, I have maintained friendships with a few chinese, both of which have relatives in china.

                But hey, drink from the Sky news trough, just don’t think that it is in anyway representative of what is happening outside their little bubble

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                el gordo

                I’ll support Fitz, the ordinary people are politically unaware, yet happy enough with their new prosperity. The majority are similar to Australians, pretty much indifferent to political thought, living out ordinary lives and hoping to avoid running foul of the authorities.

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                Steve Keppel-Jones

                Peter, can you think of any reason why Chinese ex-pats with relatives in China might not want to say anything untoward about the CCP in public?

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                Tilba Tilba

                We have friends in Shanghai – 30s, newly middle class, nice apartment and careers, significant travel, and they’re doing okay.

                They’re perfectly aware they don’t have the freedoms found in liberal democracies, but they can also be fairly critical about the inequality bred in capitalism too.

                They balance things out – and well remember the village poverty and very narrow lives of their grandparents.

                They are very circumspect in the answers they provide in their emails to us. They are generally pretty positive about the way the Chinese government managed the pandemic.

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                Ted1

                Given any situation Chinese people will do what any other people would do. Act in their own best interests. Individually or collectively.

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        John R Smith

        “Censorship exists and is practiced in every country and at every level, government and private.”

        Oh … well if everybody’s doing it, then ok.

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        el gordo

        The vilification law in Australia was incredibly successful in purging the people of unhealthy thoughts. I stopped using banned words, to avoid acrimony, now I can’t remember what they were.

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          Greg Cavanagh

          Then there are those red-necks among us that continue to tell the worst of the racist jokes, because they are good to laugh at. You might have stepped in line and become one with the utopian society of happy-thoughts, but I sure haven’t and I won’t. I enjoy using all the old school yard derogatory terms, as well as using words the way they were first used. Have a happy and gay time 🙂

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          Kevin kilty

          I suppose you are being sarcastic, but what you sumarize is what the censors hope. Stop thinking inconvenient thoughts, and soon you can’t recall what those were, or how life was once different, or even inconvenient truths. There is a fine line between bad words, and important truths. Or maybe its a faint wide line.

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            el gordo

            Yep, its Orwellian and those with shallow minds will eventually drown in a swamp of ignorance.

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          Tilba Tilba

          During the debate over Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975, the generally awful Senator George Brandis said people have a right to be bigots – in his alleged defence of free speech.

          He was much criticised (howled down even) – in the Australia of today you do not have such a right, and while the strong libertarian streak in me dislikes the clamping of free speech, on balance it is far better to have such rules. Like this blog has strict rules.

          Section 18C says (in part):

          (1) It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:

          (a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and

          (b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group.

          Note that being unlawful doesn’t necessarily mean an act is a criminal offence … that has to be spelt out if that is the intent. Also, “in private” does not include anything that is published or distributed over a public medium, even if “done” in a private place.

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    Zigmaster

    Self censorship seems much more prominent from the right than from the left. The commentators from the right do it because there is a genuine belief that the left will activate to have them removed and sue the pants off them whilst the left can say anything with impunity knowing that even if the right wants to disagree with them or even sue them they will get a judicial system sympathetic to their cause.

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      Ian

      “Self censorship seems much more prominent from the right than from the left.”

      It seems you may not read News Corp newspapers or watch Sky. Journalists such as Chris Kenny, Andrew Bolt, Miranda Devine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtsen, Peta Credlin, Alan Jones are all out there spreading Murdoch’s right wing philosophy far and wide across Australia.

      A 6-month investigation covering 3 continents & including more than 150 interviews described how Murdoch turned his media outlets into right-wing political influence machines that have destabilized democracy in North America, Europe & Australia

      This report. see link below, comments on right wing influence in Australia

      “Led by the Federal Government and often using the weapon of national security, there have been increasing limitations imposed on reporting, which should be about telling the community what is happening, or, with factual support, what is likely to happen.

      Journalistic freedom is a great catch-cry, but it can allow for unnamed or even fictional sources introduced to flesh out a good “tabloid” sensational story.

      Minister for Home Affairs Peter Dutton – in whom so many have to trust – is actually right that no one, not even journalists, is above the law.

      But, there are cases such as where corruption is involved, secret and unlawful decisions being made by the Government or others, where airing of the issues is justified “in the public interest”.

      https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/australias-right-wing-stranglehold-over-public-interest-journalism,13195

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        Ian, if you believe “Chris Kenny, Andrew Bolt, Miranda Devine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtsen, Peta Credlin, Alan Jones ” are only saying what Murdoch orders them to say, you might be #BlueAnon.

        It’s a big conspiracy.

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          Tilba Tilba

          Not sure if it’s BlueAnon territory, but a couple of points:

          Murdoch doesn’t have to explicitly “order” anyone to write or say specific things – his media attract a certain type of journalist and commentator in the first place.

          And they “know” pretty much what the over-arching party line is, and they do not stray too far from that. Managing editors | editorial writers no doubt consult Murdoch on the big themes, “Are we supporting the Libs or Labor at these elections?”, but the working plebs just go about their business within the corporate culture.

          I would be interested in knowing which “local Murdoch rag” is nothing but leftists – it’s an intriguing thought.

          I wouldn’t blame Murdoch entirely for the destruction of “decent society” and decent government over the past 50 years, but he did have a huge influence. The shift from a sense of unity, sense of bipartisanship, a sense that society is bigger than individuals, that trust in institutions is a good thing … seems to me it was all thrown out for destructive cynicism, rampant consumerism, and a very perverse type of “individualism”.

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        R.B.

        I hate my local Murdoch rag because it’s almost wall to wall leftists. This gross stupidity that a paper is not biased if it only prints leftwing approved opinion is ridiculous.

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        ExWarmist

        Hi Ian, its Oligarchs all the way down (and they don’t care about left or right…)

        (Apologies to Cosmic Turtles…)

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        Ted1

        Ian, the people you name are sound thinkers all of them. And there are others of like quality to be found there, We owe a great debt to News Ltd and Sky for assembling them into the organisation that they represent.

        If you read the Murdoch Press you would know that it also publishes people with contrary views.

        But for the contribution of those sound thinkers we would have long ago gone down the gurgler of “Socialism”, which is really Marxism. A doctrine of hate that grew out of the social horrors of nineteenth century Europe.

        Hate can never solve anything. It feeds itself!

        Read Henry Ergas any Friday in The Oz,

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      Sirob

      The whole paradigm of “left – right” is a fraud perpetrated by media, politicians, business and security apparatus to keep control of the overall narrative and steer everyone back onto the plantation. It keeps most people lethargic through division. Having said that all sorts of weaponised words are used to keep dissenters lethargic or divide a society. The process continues to evolve into specific subcategories of division by atomising everyone – men against women, children against parents, homosexuals against heterosexuals, ethnies against ethnies, etc etc.

      Eventually it can’t be ignored that we’ve been played and our liberties have fast vanished through all sorts of pretexts to the point that people begin to wake up. At that point dissenters have little option but resistance. The state apparatus also has already implemented measures in place that improve its chances of crushing civil disobedience.

      It’s a multi front war that’s been waged on us and they are playing for keeps.

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        OriginalSteve

        Correct. Even removing the natural biological reality of each human parent is a direct affront.

        From my position as a Christian, I see what appears to be a clear satanic attack on the very core of humanity and its identity.

        Christians realize clearly that satan hates humanity, because humanity is made in Gods’ image.

        So the only way Satan can attack Gods creation down to its core, is to outlaw the very basis of humanity and its simple biological reality, as it was created.

        This is why everything is messed up – this is a *religious* war – I have been saying this for a long time now.

        The communists arent actually “athiests”, they appear to be satanists working to a deliberate anti-God agenda.

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          Leonard

          Thank you OriginalSteve. This needs to be said often.

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          Greg Cavanagh

          It is clearly a spiritual war. Evil in high places.
          Not necessarily a religious war as that creates more confusion than it clears.

          All non-believers believe what they do for a reason. Atheist’s included, no matter how they spin it, at the end of the day it all comes down to what one believes. They ridicule Christians for believing in a sky God. But they refuse to recognize their that it is a belief that God is not real.

          Anyway, you are 100% correct. It is Satan Vs God being played out on the world stage (for all to see).

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            OriginalSteve

            Good point about religious vs spiritual….

            The battle in the unseen realm is now spilling out very publically for all to see just how wild-eyed, deranged and evil satan is….

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              el gordo

              I see the extraterrestrial sky pilots invading our airspace as angels, its hardly Armageddon.

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                Greg Cavanagh

                The foo fighters were a common sight in WW2. I’ve heard it speculated that they were angles. And there is not a lot of “other” explanation for the sheer number of foo fighters that were seen in the sky at that time.

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          PeterS

          Well said.

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          Tilba Tilba

          I’m an atheist and proud of it … don’t have a pointy tail or carry a pitchfork.

          I welcome the increase in secularism over my lifetime – of course freedom of religion should exist in a liberal society, but the religious shouldn’t get a free pass on discriminatory behaviour. And freedom FROM religion is really important too.

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        el gordo

        ‘The whole paradigm of “left – right” is a fraud …’

        Clearly you have not read history.

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          Sirob

          Clearly your understanding has been limited by the interpretation of the history you read.

          There is history and so called history.

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            el gordo

            Selective history, we can all play that game but who has the time.

            ‘It’s a multi front war that’s been waged on us and they are playing for keeps.’

            Life is not composed of us and them, its multifaceted, so let me assure you that nobody is playing hard ball.

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              Sirob

              Life is not composed of us and them, its multifaceted, so let me assure you that nobody is playing hard ball.

              Of course it’s multifaceted, my statement makes no claim that it isn’t. That’s just your imagination.

              In my estimation however, there is an ‘us & them’. The dichotomy I’m using distinguishes between those who want to rule over others and those who don’t want to rule over others.

              Of course there’s a continuum. At the extreme, those who want to rule others see the rest of us as a resource to be used like cattle are used. They have no compunction to destroy anything or anyone standing in their way to complete power for power’s sake. They generally avoid the limelight and co-opt anything and anyone to do their work for them. Deception is their MO and their greatest deception is convincing the rest of us that their grotesque aims are a matter of a primitive conspiracy theory with no basis in fact.

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            Ted1

            Now that is an interesting point.

            Up until recently, history was written by the victors. That has changed, as our history is being rewritten by the losers of the last major conflict.

            How could this happen? Partly because the “Victors” were a humane people, and partly because the issue of victory was never completed.

            The purpose of the rewrite is to reverse the victory. And it is happening.

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    OldOzzie

    Chinese Communist Party set to make Hong Kong as authoritarian as Australia come August this year.

    From the Comments

    Dan gave the ccp the model.

    He fell over from excessive exuberance at the news.

    Will be rewarded with a former British colonial Mansion from whence he shall reign as the new ccp Governor.

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      OriginalSteve

      What I do find interesting is the alleged “accident”.

      I’ll wager it was a clear message “this could have been so much worse…keep your mouth shut!”

      Its appears to be a form of janitorial activity, Intel-style.

      And the other guy potentially in the centre of the covid “web” is also in hospital.

      Stuff is about to get really nasty I think if thats whats going on.

      Stay the hell away from the “vaccine”……

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        Tilba Tilba

        What I do find interesting is the alleged “accident”. I’ll wager it was a clear message “this could have been so much worse…keep your mouth shut!”

        What are you prepared to wager? Do you have any evidence that it wasn’t just a simple accident – Our Dan slipped on a wet stairway. And in relation to Greg Hunt, B followed A, but no evidence A caused B.

        #BlueAnon and Proud!

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        Ted1

        O.S, How very old fashioned!

        I did ask the question, who was within 50 miles of the spot when the event happened?

        As it happens, both gents have been looking a bit haggard lately. A month on the back mightn’t hurt. But could there be a link?

        Lousy timing in the overall scheme of things.

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          Tilba Tilba

          As it happens, both gents have been looking a bit haggard lately. A month on the back mightn’t hurt. But could there be a link?

          No – there is no link … Our Dan and Our Greg have been working hard – for months – but I doubt the CCP has spread its tentacles so far as to trip up Our Dan on the stairs, or sneak an infection agent in to Our Greg’s Weetbix.

          It seems that conspiracies have no bounds!

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    David Wojick

    In the very funny Canadian sitcom Corner Gas there is an episode where an outrageously bad child is brought under control using vague threats. It is then explained that vague threats are more compelling than specific ones because the punishment is left to the imagination, which knows no bounds. The episode is funny, but in the present context the moral not so much.

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    OldOzzie

    The Miseducation of America’s Elites

    Affluent parents, terrified of running afoul of the new orthodoxy in their children’s private schools, organize in secret.

    The dissidents use pseudonyms and turn off their videos when they meet for clandestine Zoom calls. They are usually coordinating soccer practices and carpools, but now they come together to strategize. They say that they could face profound repercussions if anyone knew they were talking.

    But the situation of late has become too egregious for emails or complaining on conference calls. So one recent weekend, on a leafy street in West Los Angeles, they gathered in person and invited me to join.

    In a backyard behind a four-bedroom home, ten people sat in a circle of plastic Adirondack chairs, eating bags of Skinny Pop. These are the rebels: well-off Los Angeles parents who send their children to Harvard-Westlake, the most prestigious private school in the city.

    By normal American standards, they are quite wealthy. By the standards of Harvard-Westlake, they are average. These are two-career couples who credit their own success not to family connections or inherited wealth but to their own education. So it strikes them as something more than ironic that a school that costs more than $40,000 a year—a school with Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett’s right hand, and Sarah Murdoch, wife of Lachlan and Rupert’s daughter-in-law, on its board—is teaching students that capitalism is evil.

    For most parents, the demonization of capitalism is the least of it. They say that their children tell them they’re afraid to speak up in class. Most of all, they worry that the school’s new plan to become an “anti-racist institution”—unveiled this July, in a 20-page document—is making their kids fixate on race and attach importance to it in ways that strike them as grotesque.

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    Incredible that an anti-ccp “news” source would write such a thing.

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      But credible that GA’s only reply is ad hom.

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        Like most news sources, the true bias is what they don’t write about.

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        Greg Cavanagh

        Yea, I bait Gee Aye every now and then. He does more drive-by sniping than thoughtful engagement.

        I wish you would explain yourself more Gee. Then we could discuss the pro’s and con’s of any given situation. Instead you just leave a snide remark that only encourages a backhand rebuke.

        But in the end, it’s your choice.
        Cheers.

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    Kim

    The logic on racism is very simple: Critical Race Theory is what the Nazis used to kill 6M Jews with. Wokists push Critical Race Theory therefore Wokists are systemically racist – which is what they actually say. However we non wokists are not racist.

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