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    tonyb

    I have 2 articles on blogs this weekend and would be pleased to have peoples comments. The first covers the all time instrumental Heat record for the UK set in July 2019. I query whether the siting of the screen and the urbanisation around the site may make the record void.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/12/uk-national-temperature-record-at-cambridge-botanic-garden-an-examination-of-the-data/

    I have a second here on the need for us to all sign the climate pledge and sharply reduce our standards of living if we are to save the planet from catching fire. Please Greta by signing the pledge!

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/save-our-planet-sign-the-climate-pledge/

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      Well done, Tony. I tried to comment at WUWT, comment pending approval… The way of the world these days!

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      PeterS

      They left out one important requirement in the climate pledge; we are to agree by 2030 we will own nothing and be happy about it. I wonder how many would still be gullible enough to sign the pledge knowing that’s the real agenda.

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      el gordo

      Nice work Tony, satire at its best. All we need now is a young stand up comedian to present it.

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      OldOzzie

      Long but Interesting Read – Our Finite World

      Where Energy Modeling Goes Wrong

      Posted on February 3, 2021 by Gail Tverberg

      There are a huge number of people doing energy modeling. In my opinion, nearly all of them are going astray in their modeling because they don’t understand how the economy really operates.

      The modeling that comes closest to being correct is that which underlies the 1972 book, The Limits to Growth by Donella Meadows and others. This modeling was based on physical quantities of resources, with no financial system whatsoever. The base model, shown here, indicates that limits would be reached a few years later than we actually seem to be reaching them. The dotted black line in Figure 1 indicates where I saw the world economy to be in January 2019, based on the limits we already seemed to be reaching at that time.

      The authors of The Limits to Growth have said that their model cannot be expected to be correct after limits hit (which is about now), so even this model is less than perfect. Thus, this model cannot be relied upon to show that population will continue to rise until after 2050.

      Many readers are familiar with Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) calculations. These are favorites of many people following the Peak Oil problem. A high ratio of Energy Returned to Energy Invested is considered favorable, while a low ratio is considered unfavorable. Energy sources with similar EROEIs are supposedly equivalent. Even these similarities can be misleading. They make intermittent wind and solar appear far more helpful than they really are.

      Other modeling, such as that by oil companies, is equally wrong. Their modeling tends to make future fossil fuel supplies look far more available than they really are.

      This is all related to a talk I plan to give to energy researchers later in February. So far, all that is pinned down is the Summary, which I reproduce here as Section [1], below.

      Final Thought

      (iv) If the economy is not to collapse, we need energy sources providing a larger quantity of net energy per capita to offset diminishing returns.

      Regarding (iv), the available energy supply from wind and solar (net or otherwise) is tiny relative to the total energy required to operate the world economy. This issue, alone, would disqualify a Great Reset using wind and solar from truly being a solution for today’s problems. Instead, plans for a Great Reset tend to act as a temporary cover-up for collapse.

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        Lucky

        The view expressed in that article is not just false but stupid. for any named resource there are many substitutes. The progress depends on imagination, human imagination is vast. The word infinite may be correct here. Human imagination and creativity nullifies the view- that since any one particular resource is limited so there is a limit on human endeavor.

        This is why modern economics, not just Marxism, fails. The problem is not how to allocate scarce resources, the economic problem is how to get more.

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      Tony
      My brother and his family have lived in Cambridge for many years. He tells a story of ever greater development and continuous traffic issues. His wife, a doctor, used to take 15 mins to get to work. When it got to 45 mins and almost an hour on occasions she moved jobs…

      This is just a UHI effect.

      Siting issues plague Australian site as we well know from the Kens Kingdom review finding over half the BOM sites did not comply with their own standards.

      If the site was sitting in front of a freezer door it would be moved quick smart, but those in enclosed yards, with buildings and development on top of them (like here), well, they will stay as this just helps the false narrative.

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        tonyb

        my son went to the University in Cambridge and then got a job so has been there for ten years. We have seen it grow noticeably busier with some very large developments. The tourism was also causing enormous congestion although obviously that wasn’t a factor in 2020

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      Kim

      Interesting articles on The Conservative Woman. What we need is for the corporations on the left to wear a symbol identifying them so that we can avoid them. We can call it “the mark of the beast”.

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    Look at the image at this link.

    This is the day of the highest power consumption last Summer.

    The total power consumed on this day was 729GWH, and the year round average was 556GWH. The peak on this day was 38600MW.

    The four renewables, hydro blue, wind green, solar plants red, and rooftop solar yellow, delivered 26.3% of all that power, and hydro was a little more than half of the renewable total.

    What do you do in the near future now, if renewables are all we will have?

    See that white area between the colours along the bottom indicating all four renewables and the black line at the top indicating total consumption during this day. Well, all of that is CO2 emitting fossil fuelled electrical power.

    Please don’t tell me that carbon neutral is anything but weasel words.

    Tony.

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      Hi Tony,
      Thank you for your tireless efforts in this subject. You deserve much more publicity because “the man on the street” doesn’t have a clue. I reckon you would probably get a guernsey at The Spectator (even I have been published about a dozen times on different topics) and you have so much to offer.
      On a different subject, I was tickled by your listing of kerosene as a power source because it reminded me of my childhood without electricity and I still recall the day we graduated from a Coolgardie safe to a kerosene fridge. Just a few years later Television had arrived in town and we were hopeful that someone would invent a kerosene T.V. Still waiting on that one, but it may yet have a big future if the numbskull renewables remain trendy.
      Once again, thank you for what you do.

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        Graeme No.3

        Why not a kerosene air conditioner? A kerosene fan was available 175 years ago.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ql1cIOUGq0

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        Tilba Tilba

        We graduated from an ice-chest to a kerosene fridge in the early 1960s – it was a cantankerous smelly and sooty device, with very low tolerance for correct operation. As a young child I was in charge of its running, cleaning, and re-fuelling … and I grew to hate it rather a lot.

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          Nadia bin Du Natan

          Holy crap, now you give me the reasons why you are so out of touch. It appears that you are a few years even senior to me. I am supposed to respect my elders. Sorry ….. not sorry. Its too late. You should have revealed your handicap earlier.

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            Tilba Tilba

            Not that old digger – class of 1952 – classic baby boomer.

            But still young and rigorous indeed! Our kerosene fridge was at our beach-shack south of Sydney … no power, no water, no sanitation, no glass windows. Pretty basic.

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      David Wojick

      They are not weasel words, just a big mistake. A green looking at your numbers will say we are already 26% of the way to 100% renewables and building a lot more all the time. Moreover the costs are falling dramatically. Plus we are not talking about the near future; we have decades. So there is no problem. We just need to speed up the transition.

      Refuting this argument is not simple and the complexity is a disadvantage.

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      Robber

      Thanks Tony. The future reliability and cost of the AEMO grid will be a challenge to say the least.
      Average ex generator prices in Vic this year – Jan $22.82/MWhr, Feb $19.42/MWhr.
      2020/21 average price $39.84, 2019/20 $73.74, 2018/19 $109.81/MWhr.
      How does any generator cover costs at these latest prices?
      Well, all those rooftop solar owners are still being paid $100/MWhr as a feedin tariff, and large solar and wind generators are selling LGCs at $37/MWhr as additional income to the wholesale price every other generator receives. By 2025 the LGC forward market is just $6.50/Mwhr.
      So the subsidies continue, and it won’t be long before the next fossil fuel generators announce their closure.
      Meanwhile, residential prices are currently about $220/MWhr peak, $140/MWhr offpeak, plus $1.05 per day network cost.

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        Yes Robber, when the coal fired plants close the power price surge will completely stun everybody.

        The current low prices are not permanent, and are a combination of covid reduced demand, lower coal prices and the ruinables cyclical nature. Don’t worry they are only temporary…

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    RicDre

    THE RIVER THAMES in London froze over for the first time in 60 years as temperatures plummeted overnight.

    For the first time since 1963, parts of the River Thames were frozen over as witnesses spotted seagulls perching on the icy surface in Teddington. The River Great Ouse in Cambridgeshire was also frozen over leaving boats stuck.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/13/uk-cold-weather-river-thames-freezes-over-for-first-time-in-60-years-pictured/

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      MrGrimNasty

      I think it’s a bit misleading – the last time the Thames froze solid was perhaps 1963.
      The night lows in London weren’t remotely unusual (about -5C), the real cold was mostly in Scotland.

      Parts of it, bays, locks, backwaters etc. have frozen loads of times since. Several winters in the 1980s even the sea was frozen off parts of the S.Coast, parts of the Thames and loads of other rivers in the SE of England certainly froze – I remember it, the lows were well in to minus double digits weeks in a row.

      A lot of these ephemeral weather observations/stories just get lost in time.

      Anyway the UK weather is about to flip, going to be exceptionally mild in the next few days might get +16C or more in London – spring in February, prepare for the climate change headlines!

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      el gordo

      The Express is a global cooling rag, not that there is anything wrong with that, but this caught my eye.

      ‘The freezing weather comes as 15 weather stations in Britain recorded their lowest temperature ever for February overnight on Wednesday.’

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      el gordo

      When the NAO is negative and La Nina lurks in the east, we should expect frosty conditions in the UK.

      https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao_index.html

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    Your children are part of the great reset.

    “The big hidden danger that I see increasingly is the normalisation of child sexual abuse. Too many children’s sites, publications and even big Hollywood productions of not only movies but TV shows subtly portray pedophilia as just a sexual choice that in the great liberal tradition must be allowed to express itself free of any criticism. This is pre-grooming of the child and is aimed solely at the child, circumventing the parents.”

    Read more at – https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2021/02/12/your-children-are-part-of-the-great-reset/

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      Susan Fraser

      Learning of the evilness of human trafficking and worse has shaken me to the core.

      I watched Was Ashley Babbitt Really Killed? Via link from richardsonpost.com (really interesting if true)
      That site is
      Forbiddenknowledgetv.net

      Having seen Issac Kappy’s video exposing child crimes etc in Hollywood (‘suicided’ 2 weeks later) I looked at Cathy Obrien who wrote about herself being sold by her father at 6 yrs old and trafficked. Her handlers were CIA.

      There is also a Mouthy Buddha article on Elite Human Trafficking exposing the Art in Embassies programme

      We have to each one of us open our eyes and get this stopped.

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    John R Smith

    “Please don’t tell me that carbon neutral is anything but weasel words.”

    We are now ruled by weasels.
    It is dictated that we learn the language of our rulers.

    Decarbonization
    Carbon neutral
    Diversity
    Inclusion
    Cis
    BIPOC
    Chest feeding
    Human milk
    Latinx
    Supremacy (you know, the only kind)
    Peaceful riots
    Multi-racial wh-teness
    Violence (excluding looting, burning and assault)
    Equity
    Fortify
    Unity

    ripping my flesh

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    David Maddison

    In Vicdanistan I have a friend who just got a solar system and he says his out of pocket cost for a 5.3kW system is $3000 after Dictator Dan’s subsidies. He is an AGW sceptic, his sole motivation is to reduce his power bill.

    Comments?

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      Klem

      I know people who did the same thing and it worked, they reduced their power bill. However when it came time to replace the shingles on their roof, the solar panels had to be removed and then reinstalled after the shingles were replaced. Whatever they saved in power bills was lost due to the extra complication and cost of what is usually a simple shingle replacement.

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        Yarpos

        We dont do shingles , never understood the love of them in the US. Our roofs are generally tile or steel and last 50 years +

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        Graeme#4

        I installed a 5kW system in Perth just over a year ago. Even with an installation subsidy and money from selling back power, it is struggling to break even, based on a 10-year period. It has to save around $700 annually to pay its way, and so far that doesn’t seem achievable. If I added batteries to the system, it would definitely make it uneconomic.

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      RickWill

      Good on him. Rooftop is really starting to bite into the business model of the big generators that own wind and solar subsidy farms.
      https://themarketherald.com.au/agl-energy-asxagl-hit-with-2-7b-write-down-as-energy-prices-plummet-2021-02-04/

      The new price outlook has hit the company’s wind energy investments hardest, with now-onerous legacy offtake agreements racking up $1.92 billion in charges.

      None of the investment helps the people who do not own a roof but it will lower his energy costs. It is putting pressure on the distributors to update their systems for two-way power flow and that also comes at a price that everyone pays for. But it is a more sensible option to have distributed generation near the load rather than in the bush and pay huge amounts for new transmission lines.

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      robert rosicka

      David I seen an article recently that this is becoming more common now as the reality is too much solar in one area leads to problems so to discourage more solar you may lose the FIT or have the solar shuttered .
      We know home solar shuts down if too many houses in a small area have it and the voltage climbs beyond its set limit .

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        Chad

        None of the investment helps the people who do not own a roof but it will lower his energy costs. …….

        Not until it has paid back his initial investment……i hope he Does not have to move house before then !

        ….home solar shuts down if too many houses in a small area have it and the voltage climbs beyond its set limit …..
        Most home solar shuts down whenever there is any kind of a power outage on the grid !
        IE it wont save you from a grid supply failure !

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    Keep an eye out this week as our politicians and media self destruct when President Trump is back in office.
    US Supreme Court is reviewing the fraud cases February 19th. The day before Bidens team is suppose to take office.
    That ain’t gonna happen.

    That Time magazine piece had to come from Pelosi’s computer as awhile back President Trump’s lawyers had said the good guys had gotten it.

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    Nadia bin Du Natan

    I have never witnessed a February like this. Its more like a March or an April. Not going on official figures but to me this has to lead to oceanic heat loss in comparison to this time of year normally and I’m supposing that we will have a very frigid winter. Its got to where you trust your own subjective memories more than what you hear on the news. And my feeling is that there has never been a February this mild.

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      RicDre

      “I have never witnessed a February like this.”

      Here in Northeastern Ohio, USA, it hasn’t been a particularly harsh winter but the temperatures are staying pretty consistently in the 0c±2.5c range so when it has snowed the snow has hung around longer then in the past decade or so when it would snow then a few days later the temperature would warm up enough to melt most or all of the snow before we had another cold spell and it snowed again.

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      GD

      I have never witnessed a February like this.

      Or a January/February like we had in Geelong, Victoria. We have been robbed of our Summer.

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      RicDre

      According to Joe Bastardi at WeatherBell, we have a major winter storm coming here in parts of the US over the next 3 to 5 days with major ice storms to the south of the snow line and snow to the north of the snow line. In my area in northeastern Ohio we have a Winter Storm Watch for 5 to 9 inches of snow for Monday and Tuesday then another 2 to 6 inches of snow on Thursday and Friday.

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      yarpos

      I was doing an oil change on the mower today after mowing the lawn, and I thought why the hell am I mowing so much in February? at this time of year things have usually browned off and there isnt anything to mow. At the moment I still mow every couple of weeks, all the tanks are full, the local dams and rivers are flowing nicely and its quite cool at night. It will be interesting to see what winter brings this year.

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        Nadia bin Du Natan

        I think we are going to freeze. As early as 2008, when the predictions for solar cycle 25 came out it was clear that the 2030’s were going to be frigid and dry. But the thing is the solar forecast implied that we would slip into the cold times earlier than that. But not in such a way as you’d bet the house on it. So really I think we just hit the cold times. I would keep circling back to the absolute guarantee about the cold and dry 2030’s. Just because that was the only prediction I had where it could be no other.

        There is no way the pacific ocean is going to recover from such a cold january/February. I say this without looking at any data, fake or otherwise. So I think this is the crossover point to the new little ice age.

        Right now a cold wind may be building from the South. One that could blow away all global warming fears by the time its work is done. And maybe thats the real reason why the Covid scam and the coup had to be rushed like this. Otherwise all these illusions could be snap frozen in the air and fall to the ground. The Deep State has to keep our hands full. They have to keep us fighting the small branches and never digging at the roots.

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    David Wojick

    I do an interview with Tom Harris here:
    https://www.spreaker.com/user/10530937/031-fbdXNV

    Mostly philosophy and batteries, in that order, plus other stuff.

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      Great show. So our big battery is making a tonne of money? That comes as a bit of a surprise. Has your battery research taken you to Professor Donald Sadoway’s liquid metal batteries? Those are the ones I’m interested in.

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        Graeme No.3

        I like his approach, don’t go for the fashionable high technology idea (e.g. lithium), but consider the costs.

        As I have pointed out before, up-grading our existing coal fired generation would have cut CO2 emissions just a much as we have achieved by wind turbines and solar, but we would have had a more reliable supply at lower cost.

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          Nadia bin Du Natan

          Yes exactly Graeme No.3. But even WITH really good non-intermittent sources I would still want the Sadoway batteries everywhere. Because even the most stable grid is never stable enough for wartime and natural disasters. And these giant power poles that you have to have across the landscape. To me thats just a big target for sabotage. Our grid was a lot more stable in the past. But it still wasn’t good enough. Typical first world power supply sticks out like a sore thumb as completely untenable in war.

          Some things you know might not work all that well now, but you can see how they have a lot of upside. Like nuclear power right now might have an energy return on energy investment of maybe only 3-to-1 for all I know. But at least we can see that INHERENTLY, through many decades of effort and generations of investment this could be driven up sky-high. Maybe 30, or 40 or 50-to-1. Likewise there is a helluva lot of topside to the Sadoway battery concept because its only limited by the power of our manufacturing. Its another case of generations of investment leading to cost-cutting. All the other batteries are subject to cost blowouts. The Sadoway battery concept is unique because mass production can always potentially lead to cost reductions.

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        David Wojick

        Re Sadoway, I am staying away from battery R&D. Like climate change it is all hype and speculation. My cost figures are based on EIA’s reporting of actual costs. Even here I use a long term average because so little is being built and the range is so great.

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        Chad

        Nadia bin Du Natan
        February 14, 2021 at 6:19 am ·
        Great show. So our big battery is making a tonne of money? That comes as a bit of a surprise.

        It is for sure,….but only by correctin someof the problems that RE introduced into thr grid…IE ..FCAS. Response etc. that is the reaason they recently invested nother $100m to increase its capacity …..so it cam harvest even more money !

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          Graeme No.3

          Chad:

          Most of the income for the ‘big battery’ comes from frequency stabilisation. The rest from ‘arbitrage’ i.e. storing electricity from the wind turbines when they (and all others) are actually generating and the price drops, and releasing it when there is a shortage of wind and high prices. It is the classic ‘wet dream’ of the Greens, but they can’t do arithmetic nor work out what would happen to prices if everyone did the same. HINT see the amount of taxpayers money the various State governments are putting up for batteries so why are hard headed financiers lagging behind?

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            Analitik

            Very little arbitrage takes place – the battery is simply too small in both storage and output capacity.

            Frequency support is indeed the cash cow for Hornsdale since the renewables have made the South Australian grid so unstable. Without the renewables, there would be far fewer FRS events and Hornsdale would not be generating much income.

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              Graeme No.3

              But SA Power Networks has installed 4 reactive condensers for frequency stabilisation. They claim that it will reduce consumers power bills (about $4 a year) so the income from that facet of the Big Battery will be reduced and they may have to rely on arbitrage.
              Curiously SA Power spent the same ($160 million) as the cost of the big battery. Perhaps Deep Thought got it wrong and the real answer to the meaning of life is spending millions on a self generated problem.

              For the record I am in favour of ALL wind farms being forced to install big batteries – very big ones – to reduce the variations in supply. Of course this would almost certainly make the economics ridiculous.

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                yarpos

                So we can add that 160 Mill to the 500 Mill they spent trying to stabilise the grid in pre election panic mode.

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                Graeme No.3

                @yarpos:

                And the $2,500 million for an interconnector to a State with supply problems, supposedly to supply electricity when renewables fail. Which State? HINT the one with a certain Minister KEAN to stuff their own grid.

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    RickWill

    I have compared the hindcast to 2000 and forecast to 2030 of 10 climate models:
    https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNhBlQt8jdeBoZ9NhY
    As you can see, I have looked at the annual temperature comparison rather than the usual squiggly array of anomalies.

    I have included the GHCN measured data for up to 2019. This is the much adjusted data set that denies urban heat effect.

    Of note is that they variance across the range of models at the present time is 2 degrees Centigrade. I know only one of them is based on physics of the atmospheric and oceans. But 2C is a big range to have now considering the would goes to hell when the temperature rises by 0.5C.

    The MIROC6 from the EU is the scary red one that already has the globe in hell. The Chinese FGOALS is closer to reality but do not be fooled; because it looked good, I looked under the hood and it manages to achieve the physically impossible so still a fairy tale.

    All da

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      RickWill

      I meant to add that all data is from KNMI and the nine unphysical models that correlate surface temperature to CO2 are all based on the SSP5 scenario.

      CMIP6 and AR6 will bring a whole new level of woke. Gone are RCPs and in are SSPs (Shared Socioeconomic Pathways). So the wokeful might be maths challenged and cannot agree on what the current surface temperature actually is but they have a shiny new catch phrase for the forecast CO2 in the atmosphere.

      The Chinese model indicates there is clearly no immediate concern with temperatures staying normal till 2030 but the EU model indicates the world is already in hell being 2C above normal – which to believe!

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        David Wojick

        Given the huge model variation I cannot figure out where people get a firm carbon budget from.

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          RickWill

          In the real world of physics, atmospheric carbon has zero influence on temperature. Thinking otherwise is fantasy.

          The whole deception has been contrived to hide reality. Talking about carbon budgets is just part of the fantasy. Anomalies hide the actual variation between the models. Think about it – if 0.5C was going to put the planet in hell, you would think that the climate model would be within 0.1C of each other not 2C apart.

          Lets be very clear – tropical oceans limit temperature to 30C. Polar sea ice limits sea surface lowest temperature to -2C. Think of Earth as conductive shell with good heat transfer, as the ocean and air currents afford, with a circumference at 30C and two opposing ends at 0C. It is not hard to deduce the average temperature is 14C.

          Average surface temperature = (30 + (-2)}/2 = 14C

          Ridiculously simply but entirely accurate in the context of meaningless numbers!

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      All these models projecting warming past the 2030’s. They are all a complete joke in that case.

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    RicDre

    Though this was already discussed in a previous thread, some of the comments to this article were rather interesting.

    US Congress Considers a Kangaroo Product Ban

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/13/us-congress-considers-a-kangaroo-product-ban/

    While reading the article I kept thinking of the 1963 song by Rolf Harris – Tie Me Kangaroo Down

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RviuTfdfArM

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      Rowjay

      From the Wattsup link:

      Commercial shooters kill roughly two million wild kangaroos a year to profit from the trade in their skins, despite the availability of alternative fabrics that are of similar or better quality.

      So they want to ban a renewable product and replace it with a hydrocarbon based one???

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    Travis T. Jones

    Hottest year. Evah!

    1988: “Dr. Hansen informed the lawmakers that the first five months of 1988 were the hottest five-month period on record, averaging four-tenths of a degree above a 30-year (1950-1980) norm of 59 degrees Fahrenheit.” (15 degrees Celsius)

    https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1915&dat=19880705&id=kKMtAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9HEFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4970,774657&hl=en

    2020 Was One of the Hottest Years on Record, Says World Meteorological Organisation

    “The average global temperature in 2020 was about 14.9C (58.8F), 1.2 ( 0.1) C above the pre-industrial (1850-1900) level.”

    https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/2020-was-one-of-the-hottest-years-on-record-says-world-meteorological-organisation-3291608.html

    Yes Greta, there is a planet B, and you’re on it. (‘B’ for bullish!t)

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      RickWill

      The great advantage of using anomalies is that there is the constant possibility of cooling the past and always projecting a warming future. If actual temperatures are used then that deception is no longer possible.

      For the 10 climate model I looked at, they give a range of 2C for the global average surface temperature for 2020. Normally this reality with be burried by the fog of anomaly so would not be blatantly obvious.

      I figure it would be difficult to convince people 0.5C of warming is dangerous when there is a disagreement of 2C for the present temperature.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      lets see – you compare 5 months in 1988 to “one of the hottest” in 2020.

      your lack of understanding is not a good argument now is it

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    RicDre

    Donald Trump Acquitted In Second Impeachment Trial

    The Senate voted to acquit former President Donald Trump Saturday of charges that he incited an insurrection on January 6.

    The Senate voted 57-43, meaning that the chamber failed to clear the 67-vote threshold necessary to convict Trump of the charge that he incited an insurrection on January 6, when Congress was certifying the 2020 presidential election.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/13/donald-trump-acquitted-in-second-impeachment-trial/

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    Yarpos

    Money talks. If he has done his sums (i doubt it , most dont)and it makes sense to him. Benefits depend a bit on your life stage and what income you will have later in life. People like to make sweeping generalisations about cost effectiveness but it depends on the situation.

    At that price I would have quality concerns, but they have probably said its all “Tier 1”

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    Yarpos

    So here we are in lock down again in the glorious Republik of Danistan. Regional folks havent had a Covid “case” for many months and have never been locked as tight as Melbourne, until this latest manic effort of Dans.

    People seem to be plwing on and the main changes seem to be more masks and more things shut.

    You are only supposed to go out individually. So of course we head off to the local supermarket together. in town we meet 4 other couples doing the same thing. Obliviousness rules! I guess someone will get fined at some stage, and the word will get out.

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      robert rosicka

      We in the regions must accept our share of the blame for the virus escaping the rolled gold number one standard in quarantine Yarpos .

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      GD

      the main changes seem to be more masks

      I ride the Geelong Barwon River Trail most days. Lately, it has been a joy to see a return to normalcy. Runners, joggers, walkers, and dog walkers, and cyclists. No masks.

      Yesterday, fewer people, and the absurd situation of someone walking alone on the track wearing a mask. Even more absurd were couples walking along the track with one masked and not the other one.

      Fortunately, I didn’t see any masked dogs. 🙂

      Yet.

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      RicDre

      “the main changes seem to be more masks”

      Here in the US, Dr. Anthony Fauci is recommending everyone wear two masks. He even demonstrated the proper way to wear two masks on the NBC Today show. It’ probably only a matter of time before he recommends we wear face shields and full body suits.

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        John R Smith

        No, he’ll recommend people stand on one foot and rub the top of their heads.
        He’s just seeing what he can make the sheep do.
        If past is precedent, they’ll do it.

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        OldOzzie

        Double face-masking: Why not triple? Quadruple?

        The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and health experts with Johns Hopkins just came forward and agreed with Anthony Fauci that double masking — piling a mask on top of a mask over face and nose — is “helpful” in the fight against the coronavirus.

        “Helpful.” There’s a scientific finding for ya. Does that mean if one face mask is good, two better, then three would be even better?

        Subtitle this: The Death of Critical Thinking.

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      Annie

      Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa…..NOT!
      It all gets crazier by the day.
      The only benefit is the peace and quiet here without the tourist traffic from Melbourne; it’s wonderful. Otherwise, well, I really feel for all the businesses suffering so much; especially all the caterers for weddings and their poor clients. This total crackpot craziness in Victoria is evil, no less.
      Why is the tennis ‘essential’? Why are booze shops ‘essential’? (Maybe they are, to drown our sorrows). Why are churches ‘not essential’? They are a tremendous source of support and comfort to those of a religious bent and many who are lonely.

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      yarpos

      Just received an SMS from what I thought was a left leaning friend.

      An image with two frames , one of a beaming Daniel Andrews, the other a large dog draped over a car steering wheel.

      Underneath the words “One of these two doesn’t know what it is doing; the other is a dog driving a car” So unkind.

      Over at Catallaxy there is an item titled “What if Daniel Andrews is literally insane”

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    David Maddison

    Thought for the day:

    Better to be falsely accused of being “far right” than “far wrong”.

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    David Maddison

    Trump 2024!

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    David Maddison

    Facebook is becoming ruthless with censorship to the point of unusability. They are even censoring very old posts. In a conservative-oriented group I administer, two posts were recently removed that were posted in 2017 which were quotes from a Buddhist passivist who FB regards as a “dangerous individual”.

    Anything with a political orientation to the right of Pol Pot is at risk of removal.

    Like most woke companies it hates at least half of its customer base.

    Get woke, go broke.

    If Parler is ever reestablished, it will likely run from servers in Russia, not post-coup America.

    One of the reasons for the war against Parler is that President-in-Exile Trump had said he would go there after Twitter and Facebook silenced him.

    Leftists cannot tolerate alternate opinions. Like their predecessors, the National Socialists and International Socialists and characters in “1984”, it is only a matter of time before the modern Left start enslaving or killing people for their opinions or group membership.

    Thank you for the free speech you offer on this site, Jo.

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      RicDre

      “If Parler is ever reestablished, it will likely run from servers in Russia, not post-coup America.”

      gab.com is still up and running and they have explicitly asked him to set up an account.

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    Donald Trunp has been acquitted according to Epoch Times. Democrats accuse Republicans of hearing the evidence with a pre-conceived intention to acquit. If course this doesn’t apply to them, even ‘though all of them voted guilty. Amazing hypocrisy just doesn’t seem adequate when describing this mob.

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    David Maddison

    I occasionally listen to shortwave radio and notice a huge domination of programming material from the Chinese Communist Party. There is very little from the West.

    Most Western countries including Australia have completely abandoned overseas shortwave services, while the US and UK have severely restricted them.

    The West did not realise that for Third World countries shortwave remains an important communications medium, not everyone in the Third World has access to the Internet.

    The failure to recognise this means the Chicomms are very effective in their propaganda campaigns. And the first thing that happened when Australia abandoned it’s overseas shortwave service was that the Chicomms took over Australia’s frequency allocations.

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    Reducing OLR doesn’t cause warming.

    Not clouds, not water vapor, not co2 causes warming.

    http://phzoe.com/2021/02/12/effect-of-clouds-on-global-upwelling-radiation/

    Comments?

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      Travis T. Jones

      2018; Forster: “The biggest uncertainty in our climate models has been their inability to simulate clouds correctly.
      They do a really bad job and they have done ever since they first began.”

      https://www.carbonbrief.org/in-depth-scientists-discuss-how-to-improve-climate-models

      2002: “Clouds remain one of the largest uncertainties in the climate system’s response to temperature changes,” laments Bruce Wielicki, a scientist at NASA’s Langley Research Center.
      “We need more data to understand how real clouds behave.”

      https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2002/22apr_ceres

      Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Labratory: Uncertainty in cloud feedback is a leading cause of disagreement in GCM predictions of [global warming].

      https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/connections-among-convection-clouds-and-climate-sensitivity/

      Seems like they can use all the help they need.

      Your experiment would certainly explain their continued failed understanding of the missing heat.

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      “High clouds are much colder than low clouds and the surface. They radiate less energy to space than low clouds do. The high clouds in this image are radiating significantly less thermal energy than anything else in the image. Because high clouds absorb energy so efficiently, they have the potential to raise global temperatures.”

      I find that very hard to believe. For starters they have already admitted that high clouds are really cold, then they are expecting these high clouds to raise global temperatures as if they were floating giant heaters? How does that compute? If the high clouds appeared only at night, sure I’d buy that. And sure I’ll buy that a column of water vapour saturated air WITHOUT clouds might encourage warming day and night 1. If we could figure out that this type of air conducted electrical energy more readily and 2. Since such a column of air represents more joules than an unsaturated column …… more joules at the same temperature, or better still more joules at a lower temperature then this column can more readily keep absorbing thermal energy since its temperature that controls the direction of absorbing these types of joules.

      But this idea that the higher clouds can lead to warming NET? Is this empirical or is it their watts per square metre model? I would say that the clouds unambiguously shield joules in the daytime from penetrating deep in the ocean, and unambiguously reduce cooling rates at night … if its only light-energy we are talking about. But then we also need to find out more about the presence of clouds helping to conduct electrical energy and how that effects temperature. So Nasa’s assumptions need to be audited here. Particularly if they aren’t an empirical result.

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        Clouds don’t warm. They need energy to be created in the first place.

        Sure it feels warmer on a cloudy night. It’s warm enough to have a cloud there. It came from some place warmer and going to some place colder where it might rain or snow out.

        In NET terms, the data shows the surface is a meager 0.82 W/m^2, or 0.2% warmer while with clouds. In other words, basically no difference.

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          Nadia bin Du Natan

          I couldn’t agree more. Great work. Basically everything which may seem to be a positive feedback in the medium term will turn out to be a negative feedback in the longer term. Even if you have the energy to create a column of saturated but cloudless air, and supposing its a conductor of electrical energy … Yeah it might seem like a positive feedback in the short run. But thats neither here nor there. It has to be considered a short run anomaly for something that seems to be a positive feedback.

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    Analitik

    Sydney school headmistress blasted for telling students to think about how they dress affects others.

    WTF was wrong with the headmistress of Cheltenham Girls School telling her students not to wear skimpy clothing during an upcoming casual dress day (she told them that those dressed inappropriately would be sent home) because it could endanger the career of male teachers? With all the angst going about for any hint of male impropriety, this seems an appropriate call for students to consider their teachers.

    But the “me too” crowd consider this to be intrusive of the students’ rights and that the headmistress is sending a message that wearing skimpy clothing is “asking for it”. She had even been accused of being misogynist in making this statement.

    What rot!!

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-13/sydney-school-principal-rebuked-by-female-pupils-over-dress-code/13152272

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      Harves

      Doesn’t this Principal know that you can only tell women what to wear if you are a member of a particular religion.

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      el gordo

      ‘ … could endanger the career of male teachers?’

      This is true, I support the headmistress.

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    robert rosicka

    Rumours are now circulating about just how long victoriastan will be in lockdown, will it be two or three weeks?

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    Even after the Trump acquittal the vitriol is still spewing from the mouths of Democrats. I sat through a number of hours of his trial and never have I seen such sustained hatred in all my 70 years on this planet. They have whipped and scourged him constantly for over 4 years and even now, having placed a cross on his shoulder they want to march him up the hill and crucify him. This vengeance is Satanic in its execution and reveals things about the persecutors that are unbecoming of civilised people.
    It is one thing to disagree with him, even fair enough to dislike him but this sustained hatred is worrying when it comes from across the board of a major political party. The man’s love of his country, support for its people and his trying to do what he thought was right, against the odds, surpasses all else and was to me the hallmark of his presidency.
    I hope history will treat him better than the present-day jackals.

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      Annie

      Satanic is a good description of this hatred and vitriol being directed at President Trump. [email protected] is also described as ‘the father of l1es’.

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      David Maddison

      The evil of the Left is unrestrained.

      They are utterly lacking in morals.

      Most of Western Civilisation has its basis in Judeo-Christian ethics from Jerusalem and science and logic as derived from the Ancient Greeks.

      The Left is at war with both Judeo-Christian ethics AND science and reason.

      This is how they plan to destroy Western Civilisation.

      Ben Shapiro talks about this.
      https://youtu.be/RVD0xik-_FM

      (Apologies, I couldn’t find a non-YouTube link for this video.)

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        el gordo

        The left is not evil, the utopian socialists of the English Revolution were devout Christians.

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          Nadia bin Du Natan

          Thats a big problem I reckon. People make a few valid observations and get a few good ideas. But they always push things too far. And they are easily deflected from digging at the roots of problems to cutting at the small branches.

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        Tilba Tilba

        The Left is at war with both Judeo-Christian ethics AND science and reason.

        Mostly the left embraces Judeo-Christian ethics, and science, and reason … just like many other sensible humans.

        The left has been at war with unconstrained capitalism and powerful elites … many men and women have died in these struggles.

        The left has been responsible for just about every advance that you and I and everyone else now enjoys: an eight-hour day, no child labour, safe working conditions, a living wage, safe medicines, safe food, better hospitals, better water, widespread literacy, cleaner cities, cleaner rivers, women’s suffrage, consumer rights, and a wide range of freedoms, protection, and privileges we take for granted.

        That is the legacy of the left, comrade!

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          farmerbraun

          You are obviously an expert in shallow ” analysis ” and disinformation. Where did you complete your PhD?

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            el gordo

            Tilba is aware that democratic socialism is a bulwark against Marxism and labor parties are the result, so in reality he is showing his depth of knowledge.

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            yarpos

            Quite a prism they view the world though. So earnest and eager to claim every advance for one side of the ledger, with nary a negative. Defies both reality and common sense.

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              Tilba Tilba

              The great crime of social democrats – in fact all liberal democrats – is that they sold out to the corporate state some decades ago.

              I concede the forces against them were immense … if you maintained a critical view about – well anything – such as the Vietnam War or the bogus attack on Iraq, or the outrageous attack on Afghanistan, etc, you were thrown out and lost your position, your income, your prestige … everything.

              Electronic media, films, unions, academia, newspapers, churches, the bureaucracy, the parties of the centre-left … all coopted by the forces of darkness!

              People complain about social democrats and lefties being too “woke” (such an old-fashioned term), or soft on Islam or immigration or black violence, etc … but in reality, the pendulum is far the other way … they are soft on class conflict and exploitation!

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      Tilba Tilba

      Donald Trump attacked President Obama relentlessly for years with his “birtherism” shtick … perhaps it is karma.

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    DD

    You know how the Left in every country talk about the ‘massive’ growth in green energy jobs and how their country will become the renewables capital of the world? Well:
    Delingpole: Green Jobs Collapse in Germany and Go to China Instead. What a Surprise!

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    Dennis

    By now most people must realise that the transition to renewable energy is political theatre, distract the people from the main game that if achieved will result in no industry and jobs, the renewables are also a wealth creation vehicle for investors, primarily globalists.

    After all, the plotters could hardly advocate for decommissioning of electricity grids.

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    Dennis

    Posted at Michael Smith News;

    ” One of the traditional methods of imposing Statism or Socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It is very easy to disguise a medical project as a humanitarian project.” Ronald Reagan, 1961.

    He understood how evil governments can become.

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      Tilba Tilba

      He understood how evil governments can become.

      He probably watched the Republican – McCarthyism witch-hunts in his own film industry in the 1950s. It wasn’t pretty.

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    WXcycles

    La Nina cooler waters finally getting closer to the surface, coldest area is getting larger and thermal partitioning is becoming stronger.

    http://www.bom.gov.au/archive/oceanography/ocean_anals/IDYOC007/IDYOC007.202102.gif

    Intratropical convection in the central and eastern Pacific 10-day EXMWF shows convection has collapsed in the forecast, indicating cooler water is indeed finally quenching storms and rainfall, as expands over South East Asia and Australia.

    https://i.ibb.co/yndFj92/Screenshot-2021-02-13-Windy-as-forecasted.jpg

    An extra image of global jets here, just to show you that the same ‘locked’ zonal structure persists, plus an Eastern Pacific Equator-straddling jet is still there, and the highly zonal flow persists circum-globally – same as last year’s NH winter. There was a 415 km/h jet east of Japan during the past week. I expect the speeds to jump higher in late-Feb to late-March period. 440 to 450 km/h jets possible given it’s following the same locked zonal pattern as last winter.

    https://i.ibb.co/v4zhPVf/Zonal-Jets-39000-ft-Screenshot-2021-02-13.jpg

    Can you tell visually which one has the atrophied weaker Summer jets? Nah, me either. Curious that colder and snowier winter phases are associated with a strongly zonal jet flows though.

    No one wants to talk about that for some reason. And the regular snows in NZ and the central Andes have barely abated this Summer. i.e. variability is increasing.

    So, will growing La Nina cooling effect on top enhance this variability induced by deeper stronger jet flows? And is the Pope a Catholic?

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      You know, just a general point here about the cooler waters movements and those jet streams that are explained a number of times by WXcycles, and where he says this:

      Can you tell visually which one has the atrophied weaker Summer jets? Nah, me either. Curious that colder and snowier winter phases are associated with a strongly zonal jet flows though.

      No one wants to talk about that for some reason. And the regular snows in NZ and the central Andes have barely abated this Summer. i.e. variability is increasing.

      Now when it comes to Science, I like to read about and even to occasionally comment, but for serious comment, I’ll leave that to the experts.

      But, now having said just that, even I as an extreme layman with respect to climate science, can see that it is unbelievably complex, with just so much to take into account.

      And yet, the friends of the dirt, sorry, the green sympathisers swear hand on heart that it’s just the Carbon, (sic) $tupld.

      Tony.

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      el gordo

      ‘ … colder and snowier winter phases are associated with a strongly zonal jet flows though.’

      Good catch, I’ll give it some thought.

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      el gordo

      My guesstimate is that the NH jet has gone zonal because of a negative NAO.

      https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao_index.html

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      el gordo

      On further investigation a very negative NAO is traditionally accompanied by a meandering jet, why are they out of phase?

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    Nadia bin Du Natan

    “Can you tell visually which one has the atrophied weaker Summer jets? Nah, me either. Curious that colder and snowier winter phases are associated with a strongly zonal jet flows though.”

    Not that curious because it means the air is dry. To the voltage difference cannot be satisfied through conduction. So the voltage difference must be equalised through kinetic energy.

    “Curious that colder and snowier winter phases are associated with a strongly zonal jet flows though.

    No one wants to talk about that for some reason.”

    We know the reason. The Deep State made electrical energy forbidden when it comes to climate and weather. But electrical energy is what the weather is all about. WXcycles, you are a huge offender in this space.

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    mwhite

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoJ0m4GlGV4

    Feb13th Viral Reality Update: “A Wake-Up Call to the World”

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    Lance

    Some very informative papers:

    On the treatment of Covid19

    https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/

    Fight against Ivermectin has begun

    https://swprs.org/fight-against-ivermectin-begins/

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    RicDre

    Biggest City in New Zealand Ordered Into Snap Lockdown

    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern ordered the country’s biggest city Auckland into a snap lockdown for the first time in nearly six months on Sunday after three coronavirus cases emerged in the community.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/02/14/biggest-city-new-zealand-ordered-into-snap-lockdown/

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    RicDre

    Biden’s climate ‘fix’ is fantastically expensive and perfectly useless-Bjorn Lomborg

    Across the world, politicians are going out of their way to promise fantastically expensive climate policies. President Biden has promised to spend $500 billion each year on climate — about 13 percent of the entire federal revenue. The European Union will spend 25 percent of its budget on climate.

    Tellingly, the European Commission Vice President Frans Timmermans recently admitted that climate policies would be so costly, it would be a “matter of survival for our industry” without huge, protective border taxes.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/14/bidens-climate-fix-is-fantastically-expensive-and-perfectly-useless-bjorn-lomborg/

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    farmerbraun

    People in Godzone are coming to their sense , slowly , and one at a time .
    Featured comment this morning , after our imprisonment at 1900 hrs yesterday.

    ” I was out chatting to some friends when the news filtered through that we had be handed our latest dose of house arrest. I have been handed this sentence for the crime of living nominally in Auckland even though I can not even see another house from my property. One of my companions commented ‘Ooh, the line between medicine and politics has become very blurred, hasn’t it?’ Yes, indeed it has.

    Strategy and tactics. We are told that NZ’s strategy in all this is virus elimination, Zero COVID, if you will. There is your problem right there. Eliminating a viral respiratory illness is impossible; can’t be done. Jenner was taking an extra interest in milkmaids two centuries ago. (That’s where we get the word vaccine from, of course – vacca is Latin for cow.) The poster child of human intervention in infectious disease is smallpox which was declared eradicated by the WHO (moving right along) in 1980. That’s nearly two hundred years after Jenner and his dairy workers, smallpox is not a respiratory affliction and the eradication program took decades.The idea that COVID can be eradicated in a time frame that allows the country to survive as a viable entity makes the whole Zero COVID strategy even more absurd.

    If the strategy is fatally flawed (and it is) then any tactic resulting from it is also dead in the water. Lockdowns don’t work – they are also wrong and cruel. There is no evidence that lockdowns reduce mortality from the virus. States in the USA that had lax restrictions fared no better or worse than states that went the full Monty. In the UK the drop off in positive PCR results does not fit temporally with the onset of lockdown – and so on. Lockdowns are wrong; they are morally wrong. Corralling the healthy to protect an entire population is an experiment on a global scale. It is an experiment we have been enrolled to without our informed consent.

    Masks are another totally unproven non pharmaceutical intervention (NPI). Added to which they are totally dehumanising. Between them, lockdowns and masks have turned most of us into a fear infused community where not dying of COVID has become the only reason to exist. Spoiler alert: none of us get out of this life malarky alive. What is being foisted upon us is not living, it is existing. Living is family, going to work, going to the footy, bumping (literally and figuratively) to someone in the street and being able to talk to them and witness their full range of facial expression – a vital part of interpersonal interaction.

    We are being told to exist and not live – just stop it.

    However, if lockdown is the strategy and the virus is the tactic, it all starts to make a bit more sense, I’m afraid. I have tried to convince myself that the loony tunes aspects of our lockdowns (supermarkets open, butchers not etc) were a result of government incompetence rather than malfeasance. I am now not so sure. You can go as far down the great reset, Global Economic Forum, Tripartate Commission rabbit hole as far as you like. I prefer to stay where I can still see the sky, as the deeper you go the more scary and depressing it becomes.

    I said before Christmas that I was really scared of the mutant virus. I was not (still am not) scared of its medical threat but was really concerned about its political potential. Last night my chickens came home to roost. And I reckon we ain’t seen nothing yet. Mandatory masks are coming to a street near you.

    1900 hrs last night as a medical announcement was a nonsense; as a political move it was perfect. “

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      Tilba Tilba

      Featured comment this morning, after our imprisonment at 1900 hrs yesterday.

      Is there a known author for this long quote, and what media it was published in?

      I agree with some of the sentiment, however I have a few points to comment upon:

      1. In Melbourne we endured 112 days of lockdown last winter, and it caused a huge amount of economic and lifestyle pain. However at one time the number of new cases per day was around 600-700, and high numbers were sustained. It was clear to the public that “something” had to be done.

      2. The long lockdown certainly reduced the new cases to zero, however after months of trying, there is no eradication – I think using big-city hotels as quarantine stations has been the most stupid decision made – they are not designed nor built for this function, and they have failed.

      3. We got used to mandatory masks, and they are certainly preferable to having even stricter lockdown conditions … and while they aren’t foolproof, they’re certainly better than not wearing them.

      4. The critical issue – and the central theme of the long quote – is whether the cures are worse than the disease, or the threat of the disease. When we had very high numbers (for Australia that is) then a lockdown strategy seemed to be the government’s least-worst option.

      5. However it seems that Victoria (and other states too) go straight for the lockdown | border-closing nuclear options, even if there is only one or two new cases. I would rather see advisories (advising us to avoid non-essential activities and congregating), the use of masks, and for very significant resources allocated to contact-tracing.

      6. The holding of the Australian Open Tennis was and remains controversial, and a big risk for government … how many cases will it take for it to be deemed a poor decision?

      7. Each state needs a purpose-built “holiday park” style of quarantine station – like Howard Springs outside Darwin, but in much nicer places with a bearable climate … one outside each capital city (near and airport and a hospital) would be a good idea. With military support, such places (using prefab park cabins etc) could be built very quickly.

      One thing I

      won’t

      do however is make the pandemic worse by dumpster-diving into all the conspiracy theories relating to a deliberate plague, the great reset, Bill Gates microchips, the New World Order, probably the Knights Templar, Masons, and Illuminati, and especially all the anti-vaxx gibberish. Things are bad enough.

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    GD

    I wrote this reply to a comment on the Oz:

    “Media watch and The ABC is vital to provide balance and provide the full story.”

    The Left have Ch 7, 9 and 10, along with the Age, the Sydney Morning Herald and the Guardian to provide their views. The conservative right only have Sky News, which is a subscription service.

    A bit lopsided, don’t you think?

    Why again do we need the ABC?  Especially when it gets so many major issues and stories completely wrong:

    Trump Russian collusion 
    Trump impeachment
    the George Pell trials
    Chau Chak Wing, who was awarded $590,000 in a scathing judgment by Justice Steven Rares in the Federal Court
    Denying that proven drugs such as Ivermectin and HCQ along with Zinc are effective treatments for Covid-19

    The list goes on.

    Why do we continue to fund the erroneous and duplicitous ABC?

    ————//

    It was rejected immediately.

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      Annie

      Today I have had 3 comments rejected by The Australian. 2 were in the comments on Adam Creighton’s piece. No rude language or any such thing, but I dared to comment on the fact that a virus variant diagram was shown with a Union (UK) flag. All I wanted to know was why the other more general-purpose virus diagram wasn’t shown with a Chinese flag. Fair’s fair, after all. It seems we are not allowed to attribute the virus to where this worldwide plague originated! What does that tell you about The Australian?

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      Tilba Tilba

      The Left have Ch 7, 9 and 10, along with the Age, the Sydney Morning Herald and the Guardian to provide their views. The conservative right only have Sky News, which is a subscription service.

      We have a serious definitional (semantic) issue, if anyone wishes to call all those outfits “left”. They are at best centre, and much of the time are quite conservative and gung-ho for the status quo and the powerful in our society.

      The Guardian (Australian online version) is sometimes more pro-Labor than pro-Morrison, but it is hardly a paper of the working class!

      There is also a lot of AM Radio around the country that is pretty conservative (and in some cases quite right-wing0. Murdoch papers in all capital cities are – in general, over the long term – quite anti Labor Governments.

      And a related point: a website or newspaper can be quite anti-Trump for a lot of reasons, but that does not make them on the “left” … they could be quite normal “country-club conservatives” who can’t stand the man, and dislike the MAGA crowds just as much.

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    Dennis

    It’s still summer isn’t it, look at overnight temperature forecasts …

    Forecast for the rest of Monday
    Partly cloudy. High (80%) chance of showers, most likely during this afternoon and evening. The chance of a thunderstorm late this afternoon and evening. Winds southwesterly 20 to 30 km/h turning southerly 25 to 40 km/h in the middle of the day then tending south to southwesterly 15 to 25 km/h in the evening. Daytime maximum temperatures between 19 and 26.

    Fire Danger
    North Coast: Low-Moderate
    Greater Hunter: Low-Moderate
    New England: Low-Moderate
    Northern Slopes: Low-Moderate
    Sun protection 9:10am to 4:50pm, UV Index predicted to reach 11 [Extreme]
    7 day Town Forecasts
    Precis Icon Location Min Max
    Showers increasing. Windy. Coffs Harbour – 26
    Showers increasing. Kempsey – 27
    Showers. Becoming windy. Port Macquarie – 25
    Showers. Taree – 25
    Showers. Becoming windy. Forster – 25

    Tuesday 16 February
    Cloudy. Very high (90%) chance of showers. Winds southerly 15 to 20 km/h turning southeasterly 15 to 25 km/h during the morning. Overnight temperatures falling to between 14 and 19 with daytime temperatures reaching between 19 and 25.

    Wednesday 17 February
    Partly cloudy. High (70%) chance of showers. Winds southeasterly 20 to 30 km/h. Overnight temperatures falling to between 13 and 18 with daytime temperatures reaching between 18 and 25.

    Thursday 18 February
    Cloudy. High (80%) chance of showers. Winds south to southeasterly 15 to 20 km/h tending east to southeasterly 15 to 25 km/h during the morning. Overnight temperatures falling to between 12 and 18 with daytime temperatures reaching between 19 and 26.

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      el gordo

      A mild summer in south east Australia, but in WA its still relatively normal. The coolness is caused by blocking high pressure in the Southern Ocean.

      This time last year the blocking was up the coast, bringing hot north westerlies along the Great Dividing Range, but on this occasion onshore south easterlies are the order of the day.

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        Tilba Tilba

        … on this occasion onshore south easterlies are the order of the day.

        I’m on the Gold Coast annually and can vouch for increases in sou’easterlies this summer – sometimes quite fresh. Temperatures remain very close to average … more or less 21° to 28° every day.

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    William Astley

    India has found the cure for covid and has found out how to stop the spread of covid….. Ivermectin is being used by hundreds of millions people in India, as an early treatment for covid and as a prophylactic to protect people from covid.

    Vitamin D deficiency is likely less of a problem in India. The drop in the Indian covid cases looks as if Ivermectin is the principal factor that is causing the steady drop in both Indian covid, death rate and new cases.

    Spread the good news.

    India

    1.39 Billion people. 9000 new cases of covid and 72 deaths.

    US
    0.330 Billion people. 10,000 new cases of covid 100 deaths.

    India has defeated/is defeating covid using invermectin.

    https://trialsitenews.com/an-unlikely-nation-is-kicking-this-pandemic-guess-which-then-why/

    This was no small move. Were it a country, U.P.’s more than 230 million citizens would rank it fifth worldwide. As India’s largest state, its embrace of ivermectin may have changed the treatment landscape across India.
    “This authentication of ivermectin revived the faith of people,” Dr. Chaurasia told me, “and net result was a massive inclination to take these drugs” — both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

    By the end of 2020, Uttar Pradesh — which distributed free ivermectin for home care — had the second-lowest fatality rate in India at 0.26 per 100,000 residents in December. Only the state of Bihar, with 128 million residents, was lower, and it, too, recommends ivermectin.

    But Uttar Pradesh did more than treat 300,000 mild cases at home through 2020; it also opted to use ivermectin to prevent infection. It seems a young health officer’s COVID response teams had taken the drug and remained well – something prophylaxis studies support. U.P. then had contacts of COVID patients take it, with similar success. “Recognizing the sense of urgency,” Amit Mohan Prasad, a U.P. health official, wrote in a Dec. 30 article, “we decided to go ahead.”

    Such urgency is in short supply in the U.S., where the single-minded focus is on vaccination. Nonetheless, a group of doctors called Frontline COVID Critical Care Alliance is pressing for adoption of ivermectin immediately as an adjunct and bridge to vaccination. Its logic is twofold: Ivermectin has a known safety profile, as a life-saving drug given to millions since the 1980s, and 46 COVID studies, including 18 peer-reviewed, have shown “high efficacy.”

    However, even India is holding back, perhaps temporarily. The Indian Council of Medical Research declined in October to recommend ivermectin nationwide, citing, as other such entities have, the need for more data. Similarly, COVID guidelines in bordering Bangladesh make no mention of the drug, despite successful studies done there.

    In India, premier medical centers have, nonetheless, adopted it. In Bangladesh, doctors are using combination ivermectin/doxycycline therapy for home care, as are major hospitals in Dhaka for inpatients.
    “The economy is flying,” Dr. Tarek Alam, who led several studies on the drug’s efficacy, told me in an email. “Hospitals have empty COVID beds and the initial demand for ICU has come down.” Indeed, Bangladesh – the world’s most densely populated country — has an even lower fatality rate than India, ranking 126th globally.

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