UPDATE: Turnbull elected 54:44. Bishop as Deputy.
With the most appalling timing and pure self-interest, Malcolm Turnbull and Julie Bishop have asked Tony Abbott for a leadership vote tomorrow. Why do this four days before a by-election?
If he becomes leader Turnbull will sell Australia to the global bankers and the UN come December. He could have stayed leader of the opposition in 2009 if he only agreed to wait for Australians to start an emissions trading scheme after the rest of the world committed. He chose not to. He staked his position on the climate schemes then, and paid the price, and has never given the slightest indication he would do anything differently.
If Labor-lite Turnbull wins, it will be the seed to split the Liberal party.
Vote on the Seven-news-poll. Currently Abbott 57%, Turnbull 37%
As I said during the leadership challenge in February. Don’t give in to apathy. Speak up. There is only one choice for a real skeptic.
Malcolm Turnbull is the leader that the ABC wants for the party that most in the ABC won’t vote for. If you follow the ABC and Fairfax and feel despondent about our national debate, don’t give in to apathy. That’s exactly what the “consensus” crowd wants — your submissive acquiescence. The same people who tell us a carbon trading scheme is inevitable are the now ones calling the government dysfunctional, even though it achieved its three largest goals in the first twelve months. Tell the government and the media what you think.
Malcolm Turnbull is a wrecker. He has sabotaged the Liberal campaign in Canning, which the latest two polls show would have been won comfortably by a great candidate.
Second, Turnbull claims he is a better communicator than Abbott. Nothing in his record as Opposition Leader of Communications Minister backs up that boast.
Third, he risks splitting the Liberals with his stands on gay marriage and global warming, to name just two issues. He would not have stopped the boats or scrapped the carbon tax, and I doubt he would have pushed as remorsely as Tony Abbott from the free trade deal with China that he cited as his big economic agenda.
Turnbull is stealing the job he could not have won, using policy weapons he could not have designed and boasting of a communication ability he does not have to head a party he cannot unite.
Australian Members of Parliament (Coalition) 2015
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Members of Parliament – phone numbers Coalition 2015
John Alexander (Bennalong) Tel: 
(02) 6277 4804 Fax: (02) 6277 8581
Karen Andrews (McPherson) Tel: (02) 6277 4360 Fax: (02) 6277 8462
Kevin Andrews (Menzies) Tel: (02) 6277 7560 Fax: (02) 6273 4122
Bob Baldwin (Paterson) Tel: (02) 6277 4200 Fax: (02) 6277 8447
Bruce Billson (Dunkley) Tel: (02) 6277 7930 Fax: (02) 6273 0434
Bronwyn Bishop (MacKellar) Tel: (02) 6277 4000 Fax: (02) 6277 2050
Julie Bishop (Curtin) Tel: (02) 6277 7500 Fax: (02) 6273 4112
Jamie Briggs (Mayo) Tel: (02) 6277 7020 Fax: (02) 6273 4126
Russell Broadbent (McMillan) Tel: (02) 6277 4233 Fax: (02) 6277 8485
Mal Brough (Fisher) Tel: (02) 6277 4970 Fax: (02) 6277 2860
Scott Buchholz (Wright) Tel: (02) 6277 4449 Fax: (02) 6277 8408
Steven Ciobo (Moncrief) Tel: (02) 6277 2330 Fax: (02) 6277 8452
David Coleman (Banks) Tel: (02) 6277 4188 Fax: (02) 6277 2353
Peter Dutton (Dickson) Tel: (02) 6277 7220 Fax: (02) 6273 4146
Warren Entsch (Leichhardt) Tel: (02) 6277 4803 Fax: (02) 6277 2238
Paul Fletcher (Bradfield) Tel: (02) 6277 4240 Fax: (02) 6277 8457
Josh Frydenberg (Kooyong) Tel: (02) 6277 7360 Fax: (02) 6273 4125
Teresa Gambaro (Brisbane) Tel: (02) 6277 4331 Fax: (02) 6277 8515
Ian Goodenough (Moore) Tel: (02) 6277 4651 Fax: (02) 6277 2082
Natasha Griggs (Solomon) Tel: (02) 6277 2392 Fax: (02) 6277 8479
Alex Hawke (Mitchell) Tel: (02) 6277 4430 Fax: (02) 6277 8522
Sarah Henderson (Corangamite) Tel: (02) 6277 4172 Fax: (02) 6277 2043
Peter Hendy (Eden Monaro) Tel: (02) 6277 4717 Fax: (02) 6277 4737
Joe Hockey (North Sydney) Tel: (02) 6277 7340 Fax: (02) 6273 3420
Luke Howarth (Petrie) Tel: (02) 6277 4018 Fax: (02) 6277 2361
Greg Hunt (Flinders) Tel: (02) 6277 7920 Fax: (02) 6273 7330
Eric Hutchinson (Lyons) Tel: (02) 6277 4918 Fax: (02) 6277 4299
Steve Irons (Swan) Tel: (02) 6277 4337 Fax: (02) 6277 8494
Denis Jensen (Tangney) Tel: (02) 6277 4156Fax: (02) 6277 8460
Ewen Jones (Herbert) Tel: (02) 6277 4693 Fax: (02) 6277 8551
Michael Keenan (Stirling) Tel: (02) 6277 7290Fax: (02) 6273 7098
Craig Kelly (Hughes) Tel: (02) 6277 4366 Fax: (02) 6277 8567
Andrew Laming (Bowman) Tel: (02) 6277 4258Fax: (02) 6277 8503
Craig Laundy (Reid) Tel: (02) 6277 4345 Fax: (02) 6277 8577
Sussan Ley (Farrer) Tel: (02) 6277 7220 Fax: (02) 6273 5188
Ian Macfarlane (Groom) Tel: (02) 6277 7070 Fax: (02) 6273 3662
Nola Marino (Forrest) Tel: (02) 6277 2318 Fax: (02) 6277 8450
Louise Markus (Macquarie) Tel: (02) 6277 2371 Fax: (02) 6277 8463
Russell Matheson (Macarthur) Tel: (02) 6277 2035 Fax: (02) 6277 8486
Karen McNamara (Dobell) Tel: (02) 6277 4055 Fax: (02) 6277 4293
Scott Morrison (Cook) Tel: (02) 6277 7860 Fax: (02) 6273 4144
Andrew Nikolic (Bass) Tel: (02) 6277 4954 Fax: (02) 6277 227
Kelly O’Dwyer (Higgins) Tel: (02) 6277 4155 Fax: (02) 6277 8453
Tony Pasin (Barker) Tel: (02) 6277 4864 Fax: (02) 6277 4865
Christian Porter (Pearce) Tel: (02) 6277 4275 Fax: (02) 6277 2231
Jane Prentice (Ryan) Tel: (02) 6277 4426 Fax: (02) 6277 8512
Melissa Price (Durack) Tel: (02) 6277 4242 Fax: (02) 6277 8554
Christopher Pyne (Sturt) Tel: (02) 6277 7350 Fax: (02) 6273 4134
Rowan Ramsay (Grey) Tel: (02) 6277 4967 Fax: (02) 6277 8440
Don Randall (Canning) Tel: (02) 6277 2090 Fax: (02) 6277 8425
Andrew Robb (Goldstein) Tel: (02) 6277 7420 Fax: (02) 6273 4128
Stuart Robert (Fadden) Tel: (02) 6277 7730 Fax: (02) 6273 3897
Wyatt Roy (Longman) Tel: (02) 6277 4646 Fax: (02) 6277 8539
Philip Ruddock (Berowa) Tel: (02) 6277 4088 Fax: (02) 6277 8468
Fiona Scott (Lindsay) Tel: (02) 6277 4270 Fax: (02) 6277 8422
Luke Simpkins (Cowan) Tel: (02) 6277 4009 Fax: (02) 6277 8423
Tony Smith (Casey) Tel: (02) 6277 4284 Fax: (02) 6277 8439
Andrew Southcott (Boothby) Tel: (02) 6277 4283 Fax: (02) 6277 8476
Sharman Stone (Murray) Tel: (02) 6277 4477 Fax: (02) 6277 8454
Ann Sudmalis (Gilmore) Tel: (02) 6277 4141 Fax: (02) 6277 8482
Michael Sukkar (Deakin) Tel: (02) 6277 4847 Fax: (02) 6277 4862
Angus Taylor (Hume) Tel: (02) 6277 4662 Fax: (02) 6277 2389
Dan Tehan (Wannon) Tel: (02) 6277 4393 Fax: (02) 6277 8538
Alan Tudge (Aston) Tel: (02) 6277 4354 Fax: (02) 6277 8487
Malcolm Turnbull (Wentworth) Tel: (02) 6277 7480 Fax: (02) 6273 3776
Bert Van Mannen (Forde) Tel: (02) 6277 4719 Fax: (02) 6277 8553
Nickolas Varvaris (Barton) Tel: (02) 6277 4626 Fax: (02) 6277 8428
Ross Vasta (Bonner) Tel: (02) 6277 4632 Fax: (02) 6277 8535
Brett Whiteley (Braddon) Tel: (02) 6277 4387 Fax: (02) 6277 2335
Lucy Wicks (Robertson) Tel: (02) 6277 4738 Fax: (02) 6277 4739
Matt Williams (Hindmarsh) Tel: (02) 6277 4429 Fax: (02) 6277 2375
Rick Wilson (O’Connor) Tel: (02) 6277 4101 Fax: (02) 6277 2073
Jason Wood (La Trobe) Tel: (02) 6277 4982 Fax: (02) 6277 4994
Ken Wyatt (Hasluck) Tel: (02) 6277 4707 Fax: (02) 6277 8552
Coalition Senators Emails and phones 2015
To contact members in their Electorate Office use this Parliamentary list. The numbers below are for Parliament House Canberra.
Eric Abetz (TAS) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 7320 Fax: (02) 6273 4115
Chris Back (WA) https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contact_Senator_or_Member?MPID=J7Q Telephone: (02) 6277 3733 Fax: (02) 6277 5877
Cory Bernardi https://www.corybernardi.com/contact/ (SA) Telephone: (02) 6277 3278 Fax: (02) 6277 5783
Simon Birmingham (SA) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 7630 Fax: (02) 6273 5188
George Brandis (QLD) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 7300 Fax: (02) 6273 4102
David Bushby (TAS) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 3404 Fax: (02) 6277 3403
Michaelia Cash (WA) Telephone: (02) 6277 7610 Fax: (02) 6273 7093 https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contact_Senator_or_Member?MPID=I0M
Richard Colbeck (TAS) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 5814 Fax: (02) 6277 5823
Mathias Cormann (WA) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 7400 Fax: (02) 6273 4110
Sean Edwards (SA) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 3385 Fax: (02) 6277 5960
David Fawcett (SA) Telephone: (02) 6277 3418 Fax: (02) 6277 5964 [email protected]
Concetta Fierravanti-Wells (NSW) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 3345 Fax: (02) 6277 3351
Mitch Fifield (VIC) Telephone: (02) 6277 7280 Fax: (02) 6273 4138 http://www.mitchfifield.com/Contact.aspx
Bill Heffernan (NSW) Telephone: (02) 6277 3610 Fax: (02) 6277 3614
David Johnston (WA) Telephone: (02) 6277 3249 Fax: (02) 6277 5766 https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contact_Senator_or_Member?MPID=00AON
Ian MacDonald (QLD) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 3722 Fax: (02) 6277 5914
Brett Mason (QLD) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 3756 Fax: (02) 6277 5725
James McGrath (QLD) Telephone: (02) 6277 3076 Fax: (02) 6277 5948 https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contact_Senator_or_Member?MPID=217241
Stephen Parry (TAS) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 3300 Fax: (02) 6277 3108
Marise Payne (NSW) Telephone: (02) 6277 7200 Fax: (02) 6273 4406 [email protected]
Linda Reynolds (WA) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 3296 Fax: (02) 6277 5764
Michael Ronaldson (VIC) Telephone: (02) 6277 7820 Fax: (02) 6273 4140 https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contact_Senator_or_Member?MPID=xt4
Anne Ruston (SA) Telephone: (02) 6277 3753 Fax: (02) 6277 5825
Scott Ryan (VIC) http://scottryan.com.au/email Telephone: (02) 6277 3483 Fax: (02) 6277 5824
Nigel Scullion (NT) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 7780 Fax: (02) 6273 7096
Zed Seselja (ACT) Telephone: (02) 6277 3187 Fax: (02) 6277 5712 https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contact_Senator_or_Member?MPID=HZE
Arthur Sinodinis (NSW) [email protected] Telephone: (02) 6277 3651 Fax: (02) 6277 5954
Dean Smith (WA) [email protected] Telephone: 02 6277 3707 Fax: 02 6277 5792
(07) 4927 2003 Fax (07) 4927 2004(03) 5441 4251 Fax: (03) 5441 4260(02) 6382 3400 Fax: (02) 6382 3499(07) 4638 7555 Fax: (07) 4638 7199(02) 6721 4500 Fax: (02) 6721 4544
I have updated my Australian Elected Representatives – Contacts page with these details.
Earlier this year, people were saying that strong attempts would be made to oust the PM and replace him with a leader more inclined to be cooperative with climate change enthusiasts in the runup to Paris in December.
And so it came to pass???
Malcolm,
do not sell out Australia.
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Malcolm has already sold out his party. Pure sabotage. Why expect him to show any loyalty to the nation?
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Your neighbour Julie Bishop was always too shiny to last. But I didn’t expect her to finish up this way.
Barnaby Joyce should be the bloke to contact. He is surely in there punching noses, reminding the Liberals that they have responsibilities to others.
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Jo,
For all of those wanting a simple method to bulk email the list.
This is a pre-formatted email list.
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Christopher Monckton’s prediction is correct as usual.
Turncote is the Warmist Industry’s weapon to remove our skeptic PM before the Paris Klimategate talkfest.
It’s just as CM predicted and with only two months to go to Paris, O’Bama and 50,000 warmist parasites are getting desperate. Hopefully this pathetic individual’s attempt to give OZ to the UN will be defeated.
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Done. Sent my e-mail of extreme displeasure to Angus Taylor – No Abbott, No vote.
Follow this link to 7news.com poll for Prime Minister and scroll down the page to support Mr. Abbott:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/29514625/pm-abbott-under-fire-from-new-threat/
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It started out just 15 minutes ago at 45% – 46% in favour of Traitor Turnbull and is now at 53% – 39% for Mr. Abbott.
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Now at 57% to 37% for Abbott vs Turnbull.
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55% Abbott 40% Turnbull
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Looks like it’s going to be a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t – Shorten and Turnbull.
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Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum
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Tweedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber?
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Malcolm would sell Australia out, at a minutes notice.
This deceit cannot go rewarded. It is absolutely disgusting.
Liberal politicians must be made to realise that many once LIBERAL voters would vote informal and consign the country to 3 years of Shorten destruction that ever vote for a Turnbull led liberal-left-wing party.
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Turnbull and Shorten? Silk-shirted-opportunist-
top-down-ambitious-philosopher-king-we-will-tell
-yer-what-ter-know-while-producing-nothin’-only
-investment-rorting-that-has-nuthin-ter-do-with-
real-Schumpeter-prosperity-and-or-open-societee
-democracy,fft!
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That is what my e-mail said to my local member. I have no real hope that it will have any effect, although he might leave his shoes showing outside his new position up Turnbull’s…..
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You guys are lucky. You’ve got a PM who calls BS on CAGW and all that nonsense and who is prepared to make tough decisions in the national interest. He now needs your support to excise the cancer in the Coalition. I hope you can give him the support he needs at this time.
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The timing is carefully calculated because even if he loses the ballot he has damaged the Coalition’s chances in Canning, which may eventually bring about the result he wants anyway, by using a clever technique described as ‘self-validating reduction’, a technique used in runs on solvent banks and sound company stocks, : “… a process in which a negative but quite possibly baseless expectation or prediction generates a feedback loop that ends by producing exactly the expected negative result: the diminution or defeat of something originally stable and seemingly solid …” (Wiki).
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In other words, corporate raider politics.
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Well even the UK Labour Party’s membership just returned a Leader on principle, rather than on electoral calculation and spin. Is there a message for the Liberal Party Room here ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3232255/And-finally-best-thing-Attlee.html
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Don’t believe everything you read in the mail. Jezza Corbyn, brother of the meteorologist, is a Marxist dinosaur from the bad old days of Britain’s 1970’s. His shadow cabinet will consist of some of the most unpleasant people in UK politics today.
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Exactly, this ‘return’ in the UK is a clear signal that Labour is incapable of thinking beyond early 20th century Marxism. It signals a massive collapse of imagination and an inability to capture relevance in the 21st Century. Haunted by the unlearned lessons of history they have settled for a comfortable default. In so doing they have settled their destiny, consigning themselves to progressive irrelevance and political fragmentation.
It is challenging to see this recent convulsion in Australia, as Jo says, timed to toxic perfection. We hope wiser heads with a vision for the future prevail.
Leadership trumps consensus every time.
If anyone has ANY doubts about where the UN, The Global-Government-in-Waiting is desirous of taking us all, read your way through this UN document. Take particular interest in (28).
Is this what you voted for, what you mandated your politicians to sign up for, that they think is in your national ‘best’ interests?
The Progressives, they betray themselves at every turn.
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I do get the feeling that the constant political leadership speculations and turnover over the last several years now occurs because of the precedent of when Kevin Rudd was first ousted; which now gives the media and aspiring politicians a sense of precedent: it’s been done before so why not use such a precedent to advance self-interest and self interested de-stabilisation?
And moreover, Rudd was essentially ousted because of the woeful level of general understanding at the highest levels of one of Australia’s most important industries: mining.
So I can’t help but think that if people both appreciated and better understood the nature of mineral resources, exploration, development and extraction, and they way they interact within well regulated and supervised markets (amongst world’s best practice), that these kind of leadership fiascoes might not have become part of Australia’s present political culture.
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Kevin Rudd was a misfit. He was never one of the federal ALP’s gang. In the lead to the 2007 election the usual suspects were keeping a low profile, because they could see that Rudd was winning the election for them single handed. But even before the election I could see that as far as the ALP was concerned, Kevin Rudd’s use by date would be the day after the election.
He only lasted so long because of his very high popularity rating. To get rid of him they had to first trash that, which they did by setting him up and cutting him down on the Emissions Trading Scheme issue.
The whole leadership issue has been beaten up by Marxist journalists and the Marxist academics who trained them, and leaders who didn’t dare tackle them. Joh Bjelke-Petersen tackled them very successfully for 20 years, but they got him in the finish, and that was nearly 30 years ago now.
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Did it yesterday to Louise Marcus. Told her if Turncoat gets the job two votes in this house are going to the ALA (Australian Liberty Alliance). Have they forgotten what a mess Turncoat made the last time and ….. We know what his climate change credentials are. We both feel sick.. (That’s me and the missus).
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My letter to my MP (possibly too late).
Dear Mr. Williams,
I’ll keep it short.
Voting for Turnbull will not get you re-elected at the next election. Australians dislike instability and to do this before the Canning election was disgraceful. Canning would have been won easily and left Turnbull with no ammunition to call for leadership change.
Tony Abbott is struggling because of the difficulty of not just a biased media but one clearly with an agenda to make him One-Term-Tony. You’ll be feeding a twitter frenzy that has been penned for nearly two years.
What will that do to your chances at the next election?
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Emailed Michelle Landry (not on your list)
Ken
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Michelle is a National and so can’t vote on this.
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Jo
I just tried the PM’s email and was told I’d have to waio 259XXX seconds to resend.
Check and be prepared to send to other addresses.
IMO
Sh!t for brains in full action.
Hopefully about as successful as the Guy Fawkes rebellion.
And a recruiting ground for the latest Country Party.
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..”a recruiting ground for the latest Country Party”??? In which event?
The “latest Country Party” are seriously disaffected Nationals. But the Nationals will surely be fighting this one on Tony Abbott’s side. And surely Barnaby Joyce won’t let them dingo out on it as they have in the past. They do have the power if necessary to force the Liberals to choose between either changing leaders again or calling an election.
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Off topic — Turnbull’s ambition to be in the limelight in Paris may mean very little in some ways ( if he gets there).
This from WUWT from the Australian paper
“More than 1000 “high-efficiency” coal-fired electricity generation plants are planned or under construction in key Asian nations, according to new research that provides a fillip for Australia’s thermal coal exporters hit by the fossil fuel divestment push.
The research, produced by the UK’s IEA Clean Coal Centre and obtained by The Australian, is significant as the hi-tech plants typically emit 20 to 25 per cent less carbon dioxide than existing power stations.
Commissioned by the Minerals Council of Australia, it finds that an extra 1066 “high-efficiency, low-emission” coal plants are planned or under construction in 10 Asian nations to provide 672 gigawatts of capacity — more than 24 times that of Australia’s coal-fired fleet.
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Despite a wave of bans on coal by multilateral lenders, Japan has designated loans for coal plants in India, Indonesia and Bangladesh as climate finance.”
I hope that brings a smile to Tony from Oz’s face.
The Japanese and Chinese can see an economic slowdown coming and they could not care two hoots what Obama and co. say. they will assist their industries.
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Ross.. follow the money.
Malcolm wants an ETS to secure his future earnings.
He is a greedy, evil, self-centre, obnoxious, low-life huckster.
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Not off topic at all. Indeed it may be timed to head off action Abbott was about to take.
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Message to Turnbull: Get out and STAY out!
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Malcolm Turnbull has completely failed to rein in the left-wing ABC journalists in spite of being the Minister responsible. Add in his AGW views and that well and truly rules him out as a Coalition PM as far as I am concerned.
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I don’t get it. Everyone I speak to who is a Liberal voters says they will consider not voting LNP if Turnbull overthrows Abbott. Everyone I speak to who is a Labor voters says although they prefer Turnbull to Abbott they will still vote for Labor (obviously why would a Labor voter vote for LNP regardless of who is their leader?). So, Turnbull would be a disaster for the party.
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That’s the point Peter, Turnbull doesn’t give a rats about Australia or it’s politics, he’s worth a small fortune and simply believes he’s entitled to rule on a world stage, he and any of his ilk should be tried under anti-terrorism laws the same as any other scum that doesn’t love their country and desire to destroy it from within.
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If Turnbull and Bishop bring this on and lose…
….they should both IMMEDIATELY RESIGN from parliament.
There needs to be CONSEQUENCES for this sort of disgusting betrayal.
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I agree. Turnbull especially should leave and join the ALP, if they still want him as they did back in 2009 according to Turnbull. Others say he wanted to join them but was rejected. Don’t know which is the true version of the story – don’t care really. He’s a traitor to his own party either way and should leave now.
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If they lose they will.
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I’m sending emails as well. 🙂 They cant get rid of our Tones!!!!
I am so looking forward to his 2016 concession speech after all. 🙁
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As to be expected from the true sheeple, don’t forget when you’re helping the hangman make the noose to do 13 links, which is ironically your IQ level also…..
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I so wuv you when you wax all dramatic Yonnie. XXXXX
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So, Catamon,
You are actually salivating at the prospect that a union leader who sold out the working conditions and entitlements for his own lowly paid workers for a cosy deal to enhance his political power, might become PM. Wow. Such good company you keep. Do you ever get embarrassed to be an enabler of such corrupt parasites.
How utterly unsurprising. The plebs are, after all, only collateral damage cannon fodder for their “advocates”, hey Cat. Not like they are real people with aspirations or anything. Sell them out for phantom memberships to bolster their voting bloc. Nice.
I have news for you Cat, I think Abbott will not only defeat Lord Wentworth, the erstwhile member for Goldman Sachs tonight, but he will beat Shorten at the next election to the collective wailing and gnashing of teeth by the MSM. Don’t count your chickens just yet.
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Ah Winston, i see you have gotten the script then. Good on yah for holding to the lines from head office. 🙂
I certainly hope so, but are the doGs that good?
Possibly, but unlikely unless the Libs suddenly discover the benefits of doing actual governance and economic management. They haven’t shown any tendencies that way to date.
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And Swan and Wong were economic wizards? Seriously deluded Cat. They were the worst finance minister and Treasurer in this nation’s sad history of serial incompetents, missed oppoortunities and failures of governance.
Just ask Martin Parkinson what he thought of being dumped in it at each and every budget announcement, having to back-pedal at a rate of knots with every “not within a bull’s roar” fiscal statement.
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Stick to your pigeons Catamon. It’s better for all if you wuv them instead.
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Nah, the Gerbils get jealous. 🙂
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Collect all that wax for making candles, you’ll need them when der commissar Turnbull is deciding how much power is allowed to avert a non catastrophe via the UN doomlords.
And never use my name and “Luv” in the same sentence, l,m trying to keep a nice dinner down.
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ok spunkycheeks, just cause you asked. XXXXXX
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From the turnout of the RWNJobbies of the Libs thta have just walked in with Abbott, it may be we all get our wish and he stays PM??
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Sent my note of displeasure to Angus Taylor. Including my address and phone number. His automatic reply warns he will not read it unless he can identify you as in his electorate.
Turnbull is so much in favour of an ETS so that he and his banker mates can profit from the fees from this money making machine.
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That’s as may be Kevin, but the membership didn’t listen to the spinmeisters, saying they would never again get elected of Corbyn won, which included most of the other candidates.
Often the membership has more sense than their representatives. A government needs an effective opposition, not sycophants trying to ape the ruling party.
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I agree about the effective opposition, Joe, but doubt that a Corbyn-led Labour party will be effective. The buzz is that they will introduce political strikes and extra-democratic activity in an attempt to bring down the government. That went down like a lead balloon the last time is was tried in the early 80’s and will have a similar effect if done seriously today. The most effective opposition to Cameron’s policies on the EU and on sustainable energy is coming from within the Conservative party.
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I have tried to send an email to all the MPs and Senators on the list.
I keep getting an error message. I am not sure if I have got through or not.
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addresses not properly formed! What does that mean?
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Do you know about anti spamming?
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No. Spam is processed ham isn’t it? I might be one of the few people who will eat it.
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Can some one explain to this Kiwi why they are having the vote tonight ? Why does it have to be so quick ?
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Not really, but I will try.
1. The National Press (lead by the ABC ) hates Tony Abbott.
2. Malcolm Turnbull has unconstrained leadership ambitions. The ABC loves him.
3. Malcolm Turnbull has a timing problem. If Abbott wins the next election (due in about 12 months) he is locked out for 4 years.
4. If Tonty Abbott looses the election he is still locked out for 4 years, because he is in opposition.
5. Tony is still lagging in the polls.
6. The Canning By Election in WA has been promoted as test of the Abbott leadership. However it seems that a Liberal win is almost guaranteed so Turnbull has to challenge now and then claim credit for the win
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I warn you though Ross, if you get your advice on Australian politics from someone who thinks the parliamentary term in Australia is four years, you won’t be very well informed on Australian politics.
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He was talking from now on. Do you not understand that?
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Former Victorian premier Jeff Kennett just called Turncoat a selfish egomaniac.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/liberal-challenge-jeff-kennett-calls-malcolm-turnbull-selfish-and-egomaniac-20150914-gjmc0a.html
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Here we go again. The MSM has been for nearly 2 years tailing TA and hanging on his every word in order to denigrate, ridicule and assassinate him. Malcolm Turncoat has been sucked in by every word. If this little stunt backfires TA will have no option but to eliminate the competition and the fear mongers who started this baloney. I hope the ABC are very much unprepared for it 🙂
Like others on this page, I have only one vote but it will not go to the Coalition with Malcolm Turnbull at the helm and I hope they get to realize that very very soon.
Any Liberal or National MPs reading this should understand that we want who we voted for, Tony Abbott !!
Totally disgusted with MT and JB over this I do hope they enjoy their subsequent loss of pay level and allowances !!
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I have just sent an email to each one individually. Last time I tried to send to the whole list at once it wouldn’t go, so this time I just copied and pasted to each email address, one at a time. Took a bit of time, that’s all.
I’ll be stuck if Turnbull gets in because I don’t want Shorten in but I surely don’t want Turnbull and couldn’t bring myself to vote for someone who would have to support him.
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Is there a way in Apple Mail to copy that list into the To, CC or BCC fields? I tried but gave up and pasted some individually.
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Yes
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I’ve just added comma’s to the list, it made it easier for me to use.
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Apostrophe in the plural again- naughty naughty!
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LOL!
This is a very entertaining thread.
I suspect Turnbull will win by about 5 votes.
Have fun with that 🙂
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If tony Abbott lasts through tonight even though i have voted liberal for nearly 60 years and have at times been an active party member will no longer vote liberal. Marelledive
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the 7news poll was running at 55 Abbott to 39 Turnbull ten minutes ago,but it is meaningless because it is open to the general public, not Coalition voters.
I don’t trust polls in general, as they are so easily manipulated, but recall this recent one, with its loaded description of Turnbull by Kenny. most MSM didn’t even mention the PM was ahead of Turnbull among Coalition voters:
17 Aug: SMH: Mark Kenny: Tony Abbott’s leadership faces new dangers as Fairfax-Ipsos poll predicts Coalition wipeout
Among all voters, Mr Turnbull, known for his mainstream social views, leads as preferred Liberal leader and prime minister on 41 per cent to Ms Bishop on 23 per cent and Mr Abbott on just 15 per cent.
However, Mr Abbott still holds a clear edge over Mr Turnbull when that question is asked of Coalition voters exclusively.
Among this cohort, Mr Abbott enjoys the support of 33 per cent to Mr Turnbull on 25 and Ms Bishop on 23.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-leadership-faces-new-dangers-as-new-ipsos-poll-predicts-coalition-wipeout-20150816-gj01ip.html
note how CAGw-infested-invested Bloomberg reported on that poll, using the 3-to-1 figure based on all voters. as for bringing up Kevin Rudd & not the CAGW policies that brought Turnbull down, that just shows up Scott’s politics, I would have thought:
9 Sept: Bloomberg: Jason Scott: Ex-Banker Turnbull Touted as Next Aussie PM as Abbott Slumps
Malcolm Turnbull three times more popular than Abbott in polls
Millionaire Cabinet minister loathed by sections of his party
If opinion polls are right, Malcolm Turnbull is also Australia’s prime minister in waiting.
The urbane Cabinet minister may offer the government its best chance of winning a second term in office in elections due next year — a prospect that looks doubtful under his boss, Tony Abbott…
Switching to Turnbull, 60, may steer the party back to the center and replenish its political capital…
“Turnbull has an extraordinary presence, is extremely bright and can be very charming,” said Greg Barns, a lawyer and author who worked with him on the Australian Republican Movement’s 1999 failed campaign to cut ties with the British monarchy. “He’s got broad appeal in the community who think he’d make a good prime minister. But that may not come to pass because the hard-right of his Liberal Party, which has some very conservative social beliefs, loathes him.”…
Turnbull’s economic and social liberalism, combined with a fierce intellect and “ferocious” work ethic, makes him the prime minister Australia now needs, according to Barns…
Despite the government’s challenges, many Liberals don’t see Turnbull as a potential savior. His political judgment was thrown into doubt as Liberal leader, when he inaccurately accused then-Prime Minister Kevin Rudd of lying to parliament…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-08/dumped-leader-seen-as-aussie-pm-in-waiting-while-abbott-founders
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I hope Liberal voters who do get polled say “get stuffed Turnbull”
…… and we see the polls go to 10% or lower for the Liberal.
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But this has been done so fast Liberals can’t be polled. Perhaps that is the point?
The speed is dishonest. Anyone concerned about the Liberal Party would not be pumping this through so suddenly. There is no reason the voting could not have been done next week.
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So why did Tony bring it on this evening. 🙂
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Actually there is. Parliament is not sitting next week (or for the following two weeks i think) so they dont have all the party room in Canberra to have a vote. They do it this week, or put it off for at least a month.
All that said, you have to feel sorry for Hastie in Canning. there are obviously people in the Libs who have no concern for him being collateral damage in their civil war.
Result coming. 🙂
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it would be great if we could send this to everyone on our email lists, with the cost of Labor’s CAGW policies as an intro. Turnbull has allegedly agreed to keep the current CAGW policies, but he IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED, AND NEITHER IS JULIE BISHOP.
19 Feb 2015: The Australian Climate Sceptics: Lord Monckton and the push to get rid of PM Abbott
An extract from Lord Monckton’s presentation:
“David King was asked whether all the nations of the world were now, in principle, ready to sign their people’s rights away in such a treaty. Yes, but there are two standouts. One is Canada. But don’t worry about Canada. They’ve got an election in the Spring of 2015 and we and the UN will make sure the present government is removed. He was quite blunt about it.
“The other hold out is Australia. And Australia we can’t do anything about because Tony Abbott is in office until after the December 2015 conference. So that means you all have to guard Tony Abbott’s back. Because the Turnbull faction, in conjunction with the UN, will be doing their absolute level best to remove your elected Prime Minister from office before the end of his term and , in particular, before the end of 2015, so that they can get 100% wall-to-wall Marxist agreement. They do not want any stand-outs. And the most likely stand-out at the moment is Australia. So look after him.”
http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/lord-monckton-and-push-to-get-rid-of-pm.html
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I seriously hope I get polled at some time..
I will say exactly what I think. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Turnbill will NEVER, EVER GET ELECTED LIBERAL PRIME MINISTER by the people.!!!
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OK,
I thought the adults were in charge. It looks to me like I was wrong.
Regardless of what happens tonight, this government is screwed. At the very least if the turncoat loses, he should be booted from the party.
Just imagine if a company behaved this way every few years..
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There is only half an hour to go. There is no good reason for the rush. Do send those emails. Speak your mind. The staffers will be paying attention. Make your point clear in the subject line!
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Have sent emails to all Liberals in House reps
Dear …….
Know this..
The Liberals WILL NOT win an election with Turnbull as leader.
Many, many once Liberal voters will not stand for this and will vote informal.. even for Labor rather than reward Turnbull for his treachery.
He has been totally INEFFECTIVE in every portfolio he has had, because he is at heart a far-left sycophant.
DO NOT REWARD THIS TREACHERY FROM BISHOP AND TURNBULL
Yours,
…..
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Just a suggestion here,
For anyone who stands up to roll or support the rolling of a sitting PM should have their Public service Salary halved until the following election.
Maybe this would be one way of at least trying to ensure that they’re not just doing it out of their own self interest?
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this was in moderation on “Unthreaded” for hours and, as I wanted people in WA to see it and check it out, I’m posting it here:
14 Sept: Bolt Blog: This is not a Turnbull challenge but a sabotage
Page 5 comment:
by RightWingNuclearArmedDeathRabbit
11,000 plus new enrolements have been recorded in the Canning electorate
This is a 10.8 % increase since the last election, way above the national average of 1.37%
It appears that those not actually living in the electorate are registering , so they can vote in absenteeism
So who are these phantom voters?
It appears GetUp is behind this attempt at electoral fraud
Dr Amy McGrath who has been researching voter fraud, wrote in her book “ Wolves In Australia “ in 2013
“Given the intensity of far-left GetUP Campaigning in 3 past elections … a new bag of tricks called PlanningAlerts, … lists addresses of applications to local Councils for buildings being built, knocked down, or changing hands. PlanningAlerts is not as innocent as it sounds. … GetUP’s building lists provide possibilities for false enrolments faster than in the past … Such stacking of an Electoral Roll may be difficult to detect in that names roll-stacked are taken off shortly after the election. One case verified by the Australian Electoral Commission …”
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/this_is_not_a_turnbull_challenge_but_a_sabotage/P80/
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Interesting comment on 2GB.
Far better for Australia for Shorten to beat Turnbull than to end up with Turnbull beating Shorten and Plebesek to be opposite leader.
IF TURNBULL GETS IN.. VOTE LABOR !!!
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Shorten may be ruled by the Unions, but he is probably less left-wing than Turnbull.
The Unions will wake up to reality once jobs are affected.. Turnbull never will.
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Getting a it ott there. Take a bex
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You disgusting cretin.
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You are probably several rungs below Turnbull on the person ladder.
But you already knew that.
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Oh yes. I’ll wave to you on the coverage
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I sent emails to a few parliamentarians from Jo’s list. If Turnbull gets in the liberals will lose my vote.
If Tony gets through this I hope he will show some mongrel and not be so apprehensive and uncertain. In the Howard government he was a ruthless protagonist. We need you Tony(the old Tony)!
Should he lose to Turnbull, I hope that he speaks openly about his sceptical views. It’s time for pollies to start coming out of the green closet.
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My email
Subject vote no to Turnbull
A vote for Turnbull is a vote for the Labor party and everything they stand for and an end to the Liberal party!!!
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I received 30 automated responses saying received.
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ditto.
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Craig Kelly is for Abbott.
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If Turnbull wins, I believe that about half the Liberal party members will split from the party and
form a new centre-right party based upon conservative principles. The split will bring on the next election.
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They won’t be central at all
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Damn, Malcolm wins 54 /44 and JB deputy dawg again.
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I wonder if Tony will ring Hillary for some consolation?
Libs have just written their own death warrant, and Australia has just become ungovernable. Joy
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Turnbull has finally lost it. He will go down in history not as the Libs. Rudd, but as their Gillard. His drivel of a speech was just “this is a good Government that has lost its way” by any other name.
Malcolm will “save the world” and there will be no carbon tax under a Government she leads.
Im basically screwed now as a voter. There is no way known I will vote Labour and Im certainly not voting for Turnbull. So it looks like its drawing stupid pictures on the ballot paper for me this time.
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Hmm
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I am now an Informal voter.
STUPITY!!
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You didn’t go into moderation!
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I will NOT vote for TurnbUll!
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Turnbull won the vote. Damn!
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So remember peoples, if you are REALLY, SERIOUSLY, OUTRAGEOUSLY, and SCREAMINGLY annoyed at this, make sure you preference the Liberals last at the next election. If you dont, you have to live with YOUR vote helping make the evil Malcolm Turncoat an elected PM. 🙂
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I meant a down vote there
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Malcolm Turnbull’s win proves that no Australian PM can now be given a fair shake to govern without being white-anted by overly ambitious party members the minute polls turn against them. Clearly, electoral mandates mean nothing, and the will of the people means nothing.
The mainstream media can pick and choose who they want in power, and they can undermine even the humble, and the decent, the well meaning politician who has the best interests of the nation at heart. A slick persona trumps the thoughtful and the diligent person whose aim primarily is to serve the electorate, whether you agree with his particular political agenda or not.
A previous Labor government poisons the fiscal well without consequence, without accountability. Meanwhile, duplicitous and underhanded forces that want to subvert the electorate for their own purposes have won here, Malcolm will claim to tow the direct action line, only to sign away our sovereignty at the Paris Parasite Festival in December.
You can gloat all you like, but when Rome burns, is that really a cause for celebration?
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Hail King Malcolm I, first king of the Republic of Bogania.
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Oh FFS Winston. You post something as stupid as that?? Really, do you actually follow politics yourself even in a cursory way or just regurgitate Menzies House scripts??
Fact is that Abbott has had the Libs behind in the poll aggregates, consistently, since Nov 2013. So dumping his sorry arse in the light if that, and his demonstrable complete incompetence in terms of economic management and meaningful governance now is hardly, ” the minute the polls turn against him”. Remember, this was a Govt of “no excuses”. LoL! 🙂
But dont worry too much. Sounds a lot like he has sold his butt to the right wing trogs in the party so they play nice and dont roll him to install Morrison for a while.
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3 free trade agreement worth billions to our little economy is failure? People like you reward incompetence. Abbott achieved more in 2 years than RGR Labor did in 5-6 years. Polling is biased to the left, voters who I talk to in my job as a GP, and friends and acquaintances who are across the demographic spectrum, do not concur at all with polling results. Poling companies don’t canvas the opinions of anyone over 45, so whether polls show you are behind 48 to 52 is that relevant?
No. This is a media driven revenge against a PM who by any objective assessment has been far more successful in trying circumstances than the previous Labor examples, purely for proving them wrong about the refugee crisis, and because he is a Christian with strong antiPC values.
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Who do we vote for? The Australian Liberty Alliance? The Liberal Democrats?
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When all else fails, donkey it and put the party that pisses you off the most, last.
Or write a nasty note across all the squares expressing your displeasure at the sorry state of Australian politics.
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You cant trust the preference deals voting for minors. The only way to deny Turnbull and Shorten your vote is to draw your cartoon of choice on the ballot.
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It is done. Turnbull is not my PM. Not ever.
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What is it with Australian politics?
Is that now 3 PMs in a row who have been ousted whilst still in office?
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Goodbye, Tony. This is not good. We now have Labor, the Greens and Turnbull’s New Libs. Paris here we come 🙁
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who the hell are the people who voted for Turnbull? why would they do that?
not the Nationals apparently, so maybe they could leave the Coalition!
Nationals back Abbott leadership
Business Spectator – 3 hours ago
Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss says the coalition agreement will have to be renegotiated if Malcolm Turnbull wins the Liberal leadership. But the Nationals leader said his party had endorsed Mr Abbott to continue as prime minister, who had a strong …
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I hope that they ( The Nationals) stick a ‘spanner in the works!’
Geoff W
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Murdoch media with NOT A HINT that anyone in the country is upset about this squalid affair. we can all relate to Turnbull.
full of anti-Abbott tweets from whom? Liberals? don’t think so:
14 Sept: News.com.au: Malcolm Turnbull just said some stuff that just about everybody in Australia will relate to
by EMILY MOULTON and ANTHONY SHARWOOD
Earlier, Australians have reacted to the news of the leadership challenge in the most Australian way – by taking the piss.
Not long after the challenge was confirmed, Aussies took to social media expressing their lack of support for the embattled Prime Minister tweeting the hashtag #putyouronionsout.
The hashtag is in reference to an incident in March, in which the Prime Minister was filmed and photographed eating an onion with its skin on at a farm in Tasmania.
It is also a play on the hashtag #putoutyourbats which began trending on Twitter following the tragic death of cricketer Phillip Hughes…
Mr Turnbull leadership challenge speech was praised heavily on Sky News by Liberal Party strategist and former John Howard chief-of-staff Grahame Morris…
Two lines from the speech (presumably Turnbull’s) are being lauded across Australia this afternoon.
One was the bit that went: “We need advocacy, not slogans. We need to respect the intelligence of the Australian people”.
Doesn’t it feel like a long time since anyone did that?…
The other line which really cut through was this: “There must be an end to the policy on the run and ‘captain’s calls’. We need an open government.”…
Mr Turnbull went on to explain that he believed in a government which was more consultative, that drew on the wisdom of those beyond the inner circle of cabinet…
And then he did something we haven’t heard Tony Abbott do for a long time. Remember Mr Abbott banging on endlessly about the “budget emergency”, which by the way only got worse under his government?
Well, Malcolm Turnbull was actually positive! Shock! Horror! The 60-year-old member for Wentworth actually talked up the Australian economy!…
These are the sort of words that make you feel Malcolm Turnbull is doing this for the good of Australia, not just for his own political career…
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/malcolm-turnbull-just-said-some-stuff-that-just-about-everybody-in-australia-will-relate-to/story-fn5tas5k-1227527038565
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The Turncoat won.
My text of condolences and assurance of ongoing support to Tony Abbott’s eddress is already returned saying ‘this address is no longer active’.
Jo, can you find out which way each member voted? Can their votes be posted here?
If any of us ARE Liberal preselectors, let your MP know how you feel about their vote. Likewise, if you voted for the Government at the last election. Also dissuade your MP from supporting a veer to the left under Turnbull.
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Leo, a secret ballot is a secret ballot. No we don’t know.
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So here we go again. The political class keeping us amused with their egocentric antics. Another year another PM. Turnbull let the cat out of the bag when he said the opinion polls told him to sharpen the knife. Let’s get rid of the political class and their ”parties”. Turn the opinion polls into decision polls and use 21st century communication technology to enable all interested citizens to have a real say in how the country is run. Using “representative” democracy as a substitute for real democracy is failing to serve Australia well. Policies need to be in the news not politicians.
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‘So here we go again’ – quite so. Will the Australian public ever wake up to all this AGW lies and nonsense?
Unfortunately I fear that with Malcolm Turnbull as PM we will now be be having leftist/global warming policies rammed down our throats!
We had 6 years of it from the Rudd-Gillard governments. Turnbull the turncoat is Blue on the outside and green on the inside!
We must not give in to their lies and left wing political ideology. We must continue put out our message for global warming ‘normality’.
Thanks to Jo.
Regards Geoff W
Sydney
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Thou shalt not covet…. and screw around with the war against Climate Alarmists
watching this event unfold from afar with astonishment 😮
what on earth is this Turnbull guy up to ?
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It was very disappointing to see that Dennis Jensen of Tangney, Western Australia voted against Tony Abbot.
Who’s side is he on? Did he not stand up in Parliament some time ago and give a forthright speech on climate change?
Has somebody got to him?!
Geoff W
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Dennis Jensen has been negative about Tony Abbott before. He was one of the discontents who almost brought on a spill 6 months ago.
Climate change might be the only thing they agree on.
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