James Harrison (click to enlarge)
Peter Hartcher points out that the country that invented refrigeration and thus airconditioning can no longer guarantee to keep them working.
In 1854 [James Harrison of Geelong] invented a commercial ice-making machine. He expanded it into a vapour compression refrigeration system, the basis for modern refrigeration.
“That’s right – an Aussie invented the fridge and it’s first real use was making beer,” remarked the US technology website Gizmodo. “You have to love this country.”
And one more big coal generator shuts down soon in Victoria:
In the next few weeks 4 per cent of Australia’s power supply will vanish when Victoria’s big Hazelwood power station shuts down, clapped out after 50 years of turning coal into electricity. It’ll be the ninth coal-fired power station to close in the past five years. New solar and wind plants are being built, but they are intermittent, and that means they are unreliable.
“Taking out Hazelwood is taking out a big buffer,” says Tony Wood, energy program director at the Grattan Institute policy research centre in Melbourne. And, as we’ve just witnessed, Australia’s power system lacks buffers. “Managing intermittency is an increasing problem.”
Not only has South Australia suffered three major power failures in the last half-year, NSW last week ordered industry to cut power usage so that households could turn on their airconditioners on a hot day. The chief executive of the Tomago aluminium smelter, Matt Howell, who was ordered to cut electricity usage but is entitled to no compensation, says that “it’s fair to say the way the energy system is working at the moment is dysfunctional.” He told the Financial Review that last Friday was “a genuine system security risk.”
In Australia, for the moment, the national debate about climate change is taking a back seat to the debate about electricity security. The Libs seems to have finally realized they can win votes by keeping the lights on and costs down. The media is covering blackout stories as if they were real news outlets. It’s nice to see an SMH article that isn’t an advert for renewables.
But both the Libs and the media ignored the warnings for years. We didn’t have to waste billions.
h/t David B
Image: Harrison’s ice-making machine, 1861
Great stuff. I’ll have a beer, Mr.James Harrison.
Was James related to John — also an historic inventor?
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The first ice in Melbourne/Geelong came by ship from South America!!!!
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When manufactured ice started to be produced, there was a big bunfight over which was best. Since the previous product was river ice shipped in from the northern hemisphere (principally Canada, I think) and stored in massive big cold rooms, it froze slowly and hence had no bubbles trapped in it. Manufactured ice froze quickly and so had bubbles & so the river ice providers claimed theirs was best.
Eventually, simple economics won. Manufactured ice was so much cheaper than river ice. Nowadays, almost nobody remembers how Australia used to get it’s ice.
PS: ice used to be so expensive, pubs would whip the beer glass off you before the ice had melted & sell it to the next customer.
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I remember that
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John,
Yes – The Chronometer for determining longitude.
Poorly treated by the dominant paradigm of his day.
Mentat
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Wow,
What a family.
Cheers,
Dave B
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‘Pauline Hanson will be the main political beneficiary of rising popular disgust with Labor and Liberal. ‘
That depends on the Australian Conservatives push for dominance in the senate, Cory’s mob should pick up a huge swathe of voters to the cause.
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Cory will be pushing up hill to get re-elected in five years time. The only positive to come about is there will be less Greens elected.
The new senate election rules will see to that.
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Cory is on the crest of a huge ground swell of opposition to the political establishment and he should be a dominant figure in five years.
One thing all these new parties have in common, they are giving the finger to the Coalition, Labor and Greens, ‘its the sun stupids’.
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Quiet conversations.
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You may have noticed the way Trump is attacking the MSM for making stuff up. Its brilliant strategy, because very soon he is going to say that global warming is a fabrication and the media are guilty of pushing propaganda.
Cory has the script and is waiting for his cue.
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The politicians are panicking as energy security becomes national headline news. The so called renewable energy scam is being revealed and even Shorten Labor are reviewing their 50 per cent renewables target policy.
How can we the voters hold these politicians to account for their negligence?
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We’ll vote them out.
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not negligence….racketeering!
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In a court of law they will fall back on the ‘precautionary principle’ and walk free.
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I remember reading about this in an old Parade magazine in the 1950s when I was a lot younger. Aussies were also among the first to export frozen meat overseas as well.
But the lies and exaggerations about co2 emissions and the real percentage of renewable energy should be exposed. Here is a pie graph from the IEA ( EU based) showing the real percentage of TOTAL world energy that is produced by Geothermal, S&W is just 1.3%.
http://www.iea.org/stats/WebGraphs/WORLD4.pdf
Lomborg has been told by the IEA that S&W alone produce just 0.5 % of the world’s TOTAL energy today and they calculate that this may increase to just 2.5% by 2040. Of course fossil fuels will still produce over 80% by 2040.
And the 2016 US govt’s EIA report states on page 3 that co2 emissions will increase by 34% by 2040. Yet idiots like Shorten etc tell us that we must reduce our emissions to fight their CAGW. That’s our whopping 1.2% of world co2 emissions. What a pack of lies and and little wonder that Hansen calls it fairy tales, BS and fra-d.
We’ll waste countless billions $ and there won’t be any measurable change in temp at all. Here’s that US 2016 EIA report, see page 3. https://www.eia.gov/pressroom/presentations/sieminski_05112016.pdf
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/global-warming-helps-chinas-weather-now-better/news-story/12b5c26ab1a5f27fffc3b416f95cee7c
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The Modern Climate Optimum is a great time to be alive.
Unfortunately cool climates produce more severe weather, this is clearly illustrated in the reduction of hurricanes.
http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c01b8d25c32e8970c-pi
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The Modern Slightly Warm Period.
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Yeah, the slightly warm period at the end of the Holocene.
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Why am I in moderation, at 2.49 pm?
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You may have used words from Hartcher’s article, which would have been caught in the robotic claw. For obvious reasons I cannot tell you the words to avoid.
On another front I think Lomborg has a bright future, Trump believes the EPA should concentrate on clean drinking water for all humanity.
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http://hardnoxandfriends.com/2017/02/16/dobbs-with-paul-sperry-obama-has-trained-tens-of-thousands-of-leftist-organizers-at-alinsky-camps/
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That’s scary!
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How can you be surprised?
Oh Bummer was a law graduate.
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The conservative religious extremists in the US appear to have been doing much the same for longer. Right from the homeschooling level. You want scary….thats scary.
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Yes, but they religious types only defend themselves. The left lashes out at perceived ‘micro-aggressions’ and people in the USA are getting hurt or worse.
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you see. thats the kind of laffs that keep people coming back. 🙂
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you sure you posted this in the right place?
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18 Feb: Adelaide Advertiser: Peter Jean: Owner of Pelican Point power station says it cannot rescue South Australia from on-going blackouts
THE power plant owner at the centre of last week’s blackout blame game says it cannot make its extra electricity capacity available to the market and shouldn’t be relied on to rescue the state in the event of another crisis.
Engie, the owners of the gas-fired Pelican Point station, said high costs and a lack of gas reserves meant its mothballed second unit would not be switched on.
“In the case of the events starting 6th February, the second Pelican Point unit has no gas contracts in place, which means Engie in Australia is unable to guarantee supply to the market through the bidding system operated by AEMO,” the company said.
It comes as the operator of a high-voltage interconnector declared it would cost $1 billion to extend into NSW, bringing much needed energy to SA…
“Highly variable demand can be met by enough reliable baseload supply, but unfortunately the State Government’s 50 per cent renewables target has driven baseload away and delivered too much wind energy,” Mr van Holst Pellekaan said.
“The 50 per cent renewable energy target closed the Port Augusta power station too soon and is forcing existing gas generation capacity to remain idle.’’ In the wake of last year’s statewide blackout, energy regulators introduced new rules requiring at least two gas power stations to be switched on at all times in SA to help stabilise the grid…
Mr Frydenberg said the Federal Government had asked the Bureau of Meteorology to work with AEMO to help strengthen the network operator’s weather forecasting capability.
Engie will close its coal-fired Hazelwood power plant in Victoria next month, which is expected to increase pressure on the power network in Victoria and in SA.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/owner-of-pelican-point-power-station-says-it-cannot-rescue-south-australia-from-ongoing-blackouts/news-story/4d56def6d2b4dc7731a670fd33eea7cd
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I can understand the crooks subsiding renewables so they can sell or rent their lands to wind/solar companies at a huge profit. I can understand the young students that have been brainwashed supporting renewables because that is the only technology for producing electricity they have been taught. I can understand the cruel, wicked people who want to reduce the earth’s population by destroying reliable energy and thus killing millions or billions of innocent people (but recognize that they never lead by example.)
But, how can normal adults not understand that unreliable renewable energy is a risk to civilization? Why can’t the taxpayers understand that they are the ones paying to have their lives harmed or destroyed by intermittent energy from renewables (in this case wind and solar). Do not the examples of SA and other places convince them that renewables will destroy the ability to the power companies’ or power agencies’ to provide them with consistent and reliable electric power?
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Don’t blame”the People.”Look towards the”Scientists and Politicians”who have all had”Skin”in this game.We”the People”are just the”Mugs”who have to pay.
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15 Feb: Bloomberg: California Dam Crisis Leaves Power Market Short of Big Hydro
by Ryan Collins and Brian K Sullivan
Gas-fired generation needed to fill gap after Oroville shut
State’s electrical grid has not been affected, spokesman said
As state officials rush to repair an emergency spillway for the Oroville dam — just 150 miles (241 kilometers) north of San Francisco — an 819-megawatt hydropower plant, capable of supplying about 600,000 homes with electricity, remains shut there until authorities judge it is safe to come back online. That’s the equivalent of two natural gas-fired power plants that will need to kick into gear elsewhere in California to make up for the lost supplies, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Almost 200,000 people have been forced to evacuate as the damaged spillway threatens to flood an area that’s also home to about a dozen power plants, based on data compiled by Bloomberg New Energy Finance. The boost in gas demand resulting from their shutdown would come just as California’s supplies of the power-plant fuel are constrained. The Aliso Canyon gas storage field outside of Los Angeles has been closed since a massive leak in late 2015, and operators are still waiting for permission from the state to restart.
“Gas generation probably needs to pick up the slack from what you lose at the Oroville Dam,” said Het Shah, an energy analyst at BNEF. “You need two gas facilities to fill in that gap.”…
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-13/california-dam-crisis-leaves-power-market-short-of-big-hydro
17 Feb: LA Times: 150,000 cubic yards of debris stand in the way of Oroville Dam’s hydroelectric plant restart
by Joseph Serna and Louis Sahagun
That overflow badly eroded an emergency spillway and sent debris flowing into a pool at the bottom, forcing the closure of an underground hydroelectric plant…
Engineers had been pumping water out of the lake at 100,000 cfs for several days to make room for incoming storm runoff and to keep the lake from overflowing like it did over the weekend. That overflow badly eroded an emergency spillway and sent debris flowing into a pool at the bottom, forcing the closure of an underground hydroelectric plant…
The other focus by workers at the dam is the eroded emergency spillway, (Dept of Water Resources acting director Bill) Croyle said. Rain began falling again in the area on Thursday and it’s not expected to stop until the middle of next week at the earliest.
The heaviest showers are expected Monday and could drop up to 10 inches of rain onto the mountains and foothills that drain into the reservoir, the National Weather Service said.
The storms aren’t likely to produce enough runoff to exceed the lake’s capacity, Croyle said…
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-live-updates-oroville-dam-150-000-cubic-yards-of-debris-stand-in-1487367268-htmlstory.html
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Had an opportunity to explain to a farmer I was yacking to at a wedding yesterday about the greens destroying the energy network and how we need gas fired and coal fired stations and how more than 10% renewables creates a grid stability risk. I was able to point out that energy security =healthy economy.
I was able to lunk it all together and successfully use the SA debacle as aa prime example of green lunacy run riot and what it leads to. Being an Elec Eng carries clout in these type if discussions. I also said we need to rout anything left wing from power asap, as this us what you get…..
The message sunk in.
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Rotten auto correct…. 🙂
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Peter Hartcher in the SMH May 2015: “… if Abbott wanted to, he could help Australians cut their power bills by much more than 9 per cent. The way to do it, as the German event demonstrated, is with more renewable energy … the world is moving faster, to cheaper and cleaner renewable energy, than just about anyone had imagined. Especially the Abbott government …”.
That’s just one example of the line taken by the SMH and it’s political editor over the past years.
Peter Hartcher in the SMH Feb 18 2017: “… New solar and wind plants are being built, but they are intermittent, and that means they are unreliable …”.
Go figure.
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I often ask a friend from Canberra, now they have built those huge solar arrays, has your power got ant cheaper?
The answer I can’t repeat but something about feel good and greens and rope and power poles..
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Very interesting. According to NoTricksZone (a German Blog), their power charges are among the highest in the world, German families are having to go without the gold-plated unaffordable power, the population is becoming restive, resistance to anything ‘Green” is rising, and the German electricity system is a Disaster looking for somewhen to happen.
SA has already happened so why compound it? That’s the height of cretinism.
The Solution:
-put a team of electrical engineers on it to come up with the most cost effective, efficient and reliable system which is affordable as they possibly can
-tie up and gag the politicians so they cannot interfere but leave one hand free to sign the cheques.
– anyone with any PC ideas or flights of fancy such as “renewables” to commit paying out of their own pockets the difference between the so-called “cheaper” power from their pet Flight of Fancy and the real costs of the cost-effective, efficient and reliable system.
– all flights of fancy to be only at the level of pilot projects so full costs can be measured. None of this ‘estimated’ rubbish,
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Unfortunately, the “debate” is not about costs or reliability.
The argument is about CO2.
The sooner the CO2 horsesh*t stops, the better (where have I heard that before?).
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It was suggested in the Herald Sun. Melbourne that we should allow the greenies to build their favourite power sources, but if and when a large demand causes shortages, they, with the help of programmed “smart” meters and a working NBN would be cut of first.
Sound like a perfect sensible win win situation. Od course no more subsidies. Let them pay for increased costs since msot have had a free ride on the back of family and workers……Most of the lefties and greenies are implants in various public utilities and union backers….
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Keeping food and milk from going off in the heat…
How many lives do think james Harrison saved, particularly
young children?
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Its a national travesty beththeserf that needs correcting, from now on we should all refer to our fridges as ‘Harrison’s’ to install the respect into our country’s psyche of this life saving invention and its father.
I’d suggest PM Turnbull declare a holiday in Harrison’s celebration but the combination of Geelong (Cats) and fridges may get a cold reception.
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Agree, Yonniestone, we could have a “James-Harrison-Celebration
-Day along with a ‘Black-Arm-Band-March-in-the Street-Commiseration
-for-Closing-‘Energy-Efficient’-Hazelwood-Day… Phew!
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“The Libs seems to have finally realized they can win votes by keeping the lights on and costs down.”
Even Malcolm Turnbull could win with a sane, coal-based energy policy. Serious modernisation/renovation of coal power would get still more votes. Who drives a forty year old Falcon on its last legs and complains about vehicle pollution?
That demon in the Exorcist, Pazuzu by name…even he could win an election with lights-on and costs-down. Few things in life are as sure and simple as this. It’s a duh thing.
And never mind the commentariat. Malcolm, what you lose on the luvvie media swings you win on the voter roundabout. Duh.
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No shortage of duffers though.
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Anyone else see the story of Coober Pedys solar/ wind cost blowout .
$192 million to build .
No tender was issued.
Claims that it could have been done for half the price if tendered .
The state govt stands to save just over $5 mil in diesel generation costs (wow).
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the usual PBS bias on show; at the very end, Hari doesn’t even look at Myron, but gives a “knowing” look at Jeremy in the final second of the video:
Youtube: 6mins56secs: PBS Newshour: What EPA‘s Scott Pruitt means for environmental policy and regulation
The Senate confirmed Scott Pruitt as the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, despite Democratic attempts to delay voting to review his emails with energy executives. As Oklahoma attorney general, Pruitt repeatedly sued the EPA. Hari Sreenivasan talks to Myron Ebell of Competitive Enterprise Institute and Jeremy Symons from the Environmental Defense Fund about what to expect.
***Comments are disabled for this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKcg1-P17Vw
much more fun to watch, and more informative:
VIDEO: 7mins38secs: Fox News: Ed Henry interviews Myron Ebell
Will Trump’s EPA head be able to lead agency?
Scott Pruitt has now been confirmed as the new head of the agency he once tried to end. Will he be able to ‘drain the swamp’ at the EPA?
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5327785486001/?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips
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17 Feb: LA Times: 260 drought maps show California’s deep drought and current recovery
By Kyle Kim and Thomas Suh Lauder
Persisten precipitation in recent months have considerably improved California’s drought conditions, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor (LINK). Extreme to exceptional drought – the most severe levels – have been virtually lifted in the entire state since it first appeared on Jan. 24, 2014…
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-g-california-drought-map-htmlstory.html
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26 Jan: Newsmax: Eric Mack: Russia Has 40 Icebreakers in Arctic, US Has 2 – But One’s Broken
Russia’s new Arctic command includes, according to the report: four new Arctic brigade combat teams, 14 new operational airfields, 16 deepwater ports, and 40 icebreakers with an additional 11 in development. By contrast, the U.S. has one working icebreaker for the Arctic – its only other one is broken – Foreign Policy reported…
“The highways of the Arctic are icebreakers,” (Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska) said, per the report. “Russia has superhighways, and we have dirt roads with potholes.”…
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/russia-icebreakers-arctic-military/2017/01/26/id/770661/
AMAZING PICS: 10 Feb: Siberian Times: Global Warming? Icebreaker marooned by thick ice connects to shore power supply
Stuck vessel needs electricity supply from shore after getting gridlocked for rest of winter on Northern Sea Route.
The Kapitan Dranitsyn icebreaker has been marooned for around a month due to freezing sea off the coast of Chukotka in the extreme east of Russia.
This week the vessel had to be connected by cable to a shore electricity supply in the port of Pevek so the crew can survive on board until May or even June, when they can set sail back to Arkhangelsk.
The icebreaker and two cargo vessels it was escorting had earlier made a successful voyage in the Arctic waters of the Northern Sea Route over the New Year period…
They delivered building materials for the Academic Lomonosov floating nuclear power station, currently under construction, the first in the world. But on the return voyage, they became stuck.
The fourth vessel in the convoy – the Admiral Makarov – has been dispatched to undertake other icebreaking duties in the region.
The failure of the return voyage is not surprising given the time of year. But it shows that while Arctic ice is in retreat, the reliability of the Northern Sea Route – which Russia is actively promoting and developing – cannot always be relied upon.
Attempting to make the journey would have entailed ‘a very high risk of significant damage’ to the supply ships, said experts. Cargo carrier Sinegorsk has also received a power boost…
A spokesman for Rosmorport announced the icebreakers will delay a return until probably May or early June after the severe sea ice in January.
‘The vessels will remain for the winter because of the very heavy and severe ice conditions,’ he said…
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/n0872-global-warming-icebreaker-marooned-by-thick-ice-connects-to-shore-power-supply/
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This just can not be true.
It is only in the past few days that Fairfax, MSM and ABC have told me that the extent of sea ice at both poles is the lowest eeevvvvaaaaahhhhhhh.
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Scroll down the RHS & Click 2016:-
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/antarctic.sea.ice.interactive.html
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Probably true.
I was told there is only 558 inches of snow at a ski resort in Nevada.
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the winding down of wind?
17 Feb: BBC Scotland: Jobs threat at Machrihanish wind turbine plant
More than a third of the workforce at a wind energy firm in Argyll and Bute have been told their jobs are under threat.
CS Wind informed workers that up to 60 jobs could be lost at the factory in Machrihanish due to lack of orders.
The South Korean company took over the site on the former RAF airbase less than a year ago.
It was unclear if the problems would affect plans to build a new factory for offshore wind equipment.
CS Wind was not immediately available for comment…
Local councillor Rory Colville said he understood plans for a new factory to build offshore wind power equipment would still go ahead, with construction due to start in July.
He said: “There’s no indication that has been put off. The firm is seeking assurances from the governments at Holyrood and Westminster that they are still committed to wind energy.
“It’s really important for the local economy that we keep CS Wind going.”…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-39015004
17 Feb: Recharge: Brazil’s wind supply chain looks elsewhere as prospects dwindle
IN DEPTH | After 10 years and almost $10m of investment to supply the sector, materials group Owens Corning is reluctantly laying plans for life beyond wind
by Alexandre Spatuzza in Sao Paulo
Alongside an estimated 1,000 companies that invested some R$1bn ($329m) to supply the sector, the glass fibre maker hired an estimated 200 people to handle wind orders. But now all that is threatened after Michel Temer’s government cancelled tenders amid declining power demand, and has taken steps to reduce the role of the BNDES in financing for the industry…
But last year the government cancelled the only wind and solar power tender, alleging it would be too costly for consumers amid a more than 1% decline in power demand…
http://www.rechargenews.com/wind/1216787/brazils-wind-supply-chain-looks-elsewhere-as-prospects-dwindle
linked below above:
17 Feb: Recharge: Wobben chief: ‘We’re concerned for 2018 if no Brazil tenders’
Wobben Windpower, the Brazilian unit of German turbine maker Enercon, hopes Brazil’s government returns to contracting an average of 2.5GW a year sooner rather than later, after cancelled tenders meant no power was procured in 2016…
His optimism comes despite a bad 2016 when most of Wobben Windpower’s 500MW-a-year factory capacity remained idle, according to Enercon’s submission to a federal government document seen by Recharge…
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The Stupidity of Windy Governments.
Was just looking at the announcement of the last of 75 wind turbines erected at Ararat in Victoria.
Reported cost is $450 million with a life span of 25 years, an installed capacity of 240 MW and 13 permanent staff – so much for job creation.
Delivered capacity will vary from 0-240 MW with an average of about 80 MW or a total of about 700 GWh per annum.
So how do they make money?
Depreciation on $450 million over 25 years is $12.9 million pa or about $18/MWh.
Let’s give them a 6% return on their capital, that’s $27 million pa or about $39/MWh.
Operating costs? Let’s give 13 staff $1 million, and assume that’s 20% of total maintenance and operating costs, equals $5 million pa or about $7/MWh.
All up that’s a total annual cost of $64/MWh to give them a 6% return on their capital.
Slight problem, the average wholesale price of electricity in Vic in 2016 was only $46/MWh, so a loss of $18/MWh, or a reduction in their return on capital to only 2%.
Note however that in SA the wholesale price in 2016 was $62/MWh, and this year to date it is over $100/Mwh.
But wait, there’s more. They are also entitled to sell their Renewable Energy Certificates, current spot price over $90/MWh. So thanks to the government RET they will generate a handsome return, all funded by electricity users, sponsored by stupid governments.
And don’t forget, there’s more. When the wind isn’t blowing, there needs to be back up coal/gas available to keep the lights on, hence the continuing escalation in prices.
Note: In January 2015 Ararat Wind Farm Pty Ltd signed a Deed of Entitlement Agreement with the ACT Government, under the Electricity Feed in (Large –Scale Renewable Energy Generation) Act 2011. This Agreement represents a power purchase agreement with the Australian Capital Territory Government (ACT), guaranteeing the purchase of approximately 40 per cent of the energy produced at the site. This was awarded as a part of the ACT Wind Auction and the Government’s plans to source 90 per cent of its electricity needs from renewables by 2020. The award has provided significant long term investor security for Ararat Wind Farm and enabled construction to commence in late 2015. (That clever ACT government, aiming to be 100% green. Hope they turn their lights out when the wind isn’t blowing.)
The RES Group (Renewable Energy Systems) that owns the Ararat Wind Farm is a global renewable energy company which has been active in the renewable energy industry for over 30 years. Its core business is to develop, construct and operate large-scale, grid-connected renewable energy projects worldwide for commercial, industrial and utility clients’. RES is active in the wind (onshore and offshore wind) and solar energy sectors and is increasingly focussed on the transition to a low-carbon economy providing transmission, energy storage and demand side management expertise.
Renewable Energy Systems was started in 1982 as part of the Sir Robert McAlpine group of engineering and construction companies. Since late 2003 RES has been based at its low carbon headquarters building at Beaufort Court,[2] Kings Langley, Hertfordshire in the UK.
Follow the money to understand how these investors are making huge profits thanks to stupid governments.
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“In Australia, for the moment, the national debate about climate change is taking a back seat to the debate about electricity security.”
In this case these two issues are in fact inseparable, are they not? The efforts to mitigate the imaginary effects of the former has brought about the problems with the later despite ever increasing costs. It would seem to me that point must be driven home repeatedly.
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This reminds me of an old joke:
The modern version would be something like:
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Alan Watt Climate Denialist, Level 7
February 20, 2017 at 8:22 am
” Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Because their refrigerators are made by Lucas. ”
” Q: Why do the Ozzies drink warm beer? A: Because their refrigerators are powered by windmills. ”
Long ago …. on Grandfathers dairy farm, I observed, they cut blocks of ice from the required pond, and stored such for summer in the underground sawdust filled bunker called ‘ice-house’. Never to be confused with yummy ‘smokehouse’ or da best-us ‘kitchen mit Grandma’! Perhaps Krauts dislike warm beer?
All the best! -will-
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Alan Watt Climate Denialist, Level 7
February 20, 2017 at 8:22 am
” Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Because their refrigerators are made by Lucas. ”
” Q: Why do the Ozzies drink warm beer? A: Because their refrigerators are powered by windmills. ”
To avoid C18 Long ago …. on Grandfathers dairy farm, I observed, they cut blocks of ice from the required pond, and stored such for summer in the underground sawdust filled bunker called ‘ice-house’. Never to be confused with yummy ‘smokehouse’ or da best-us ‘kitchen mit Grandma’! Perhaps those of German decent dislike warm beer?
All the best! -will-
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I though Doc. Emmett Brown invented refrigeration in 1885, Hill Valley, California.
I’m certain I saw it in a movie 😉
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Damn contraption did turn liquid water to solid! The rest of the world were still trying to light a fire, by rubbing sticks together!
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