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Bovaer use in Oz…..
Does anybody know which milk/beef brands have asked suppliers to use this product?
It would be good to know where NOT to shop. Just in case it is not safe and effective, (you know, after doing the 5 year trials etc).
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Only Coles mentioned so far… busy earning poser points for how ‘sustainable’ they are!
I assume it gets added to the feed at whichever feedlots Coles have a contract with, they are pretty horrible places for animals, there’s nothing natural about them.
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https://www.dairyreporter.com/Article/2024/12/04/why-is-arla-foods-uk-and-dsm-firmenichs-bovaer-trial-stirring-controversy-in-the-uk/?cid=DM1176354&bid=569074505
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The key take away from that article is that people are sick of the posturing for sustainability and the obvious statement that no negatives does not equal a positive.
I think that I’d prefer to eat/drink goods that do not have added chemicals in them. It’s a choice I make and looking at the backlash, I’m not alone.
Who in their right mind, (yes I know, they are not in a right mind), would consider adding chemicals into the food sector just to be more woke. Surely this costs more and without extensive trials, how could they know that this has no detriment to the product. From what I read, the trials ARE the current application.
I never signed up to be a guinea pig.
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no negatives does not equal a positive that’s tight! As the Judge would say: 2 wrongs don’t make a right. ….
But the funny thing, 2 Left turns takes you in the same direction as 2 right turns: the WRONG direction!
Check it out
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Eating grass fed only beef is the way. Cattle enjoy a good life mostly in such environments and the product has better flavor. Up here in North QLD availabioity is no problem.
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https://www.dairyreporter.com/Article/2024/12/04/why-is-arla-foods-uk-and-dsm-firmenichs-bovaer-trial-stirring-controversy-in-the-uk/?cid=DM1176354&bid=569074505
Well, a lot of words in there, all saying its ‘safe and effective'(TM) and that social media influencers are irresponsible… but I didn’t see any words at all discussing the sterility induced in mice by Bovaer. THAT is what started the controversy.
Remember the Monsanto exec who was interviewed on TV and said Roundup was perfectly safe… until the TV guy whipped out a glass full and asked him to drink it. He wouldn’t do it. I wonder which beef the guys behind it eat?
It still strikes me as one of these solutions in search of a problem!
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A silly exercise in cynicism.
Water is perfectly safe in the right quantities, but you will soon drown or die of thirst with too little or too much.
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The article mentions methane reducing additives in the feed. Methane in the atmosphere absorbs no radiation from the Earth surface. It does not oxidise naturally as it needs an ignition temperature about 650C. It can be oxidised by ozone in a lightning strike but then forms methanol (CH3OH) which is very soluble in water. Methane certainly is not worse than CO2 which also does nothing in the atmosphere other than being necessary for plant growth. The figure of 80 times CO2 is the first time I have seen that. The lie of being worse than CO2 started with 21 from water vapour (from CH4 + 2O2= CO2 +2H2O) being 10 times more radiation absorbing than CO2 inspite of the IPCC saying water vapour was not a greenhouse gas.
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What I saw as the beginning of the methane madness was in December 1986, when Hawke put his own brand of “social scientists” in charge of the real scientists at the CSIRO with a newly appointd board, with Neville Wran as chairman. He was the first non scientist to hold that position.
Soon a full front page tabloid headline informed us that a CSIRO scientist working in Tasmania had discovered that “Cows are Australia’s biggest source of greenhouse gases. Methane was 30 times as bad as CO2.
This was a monstrous lie, but so little research had been done that it was impossible to refute the lie, and it stood for years and was taught in our schools and academies until somebody did some proper research, and Agriculture, (including cows) was moved down the list of emitters.
OxBridge have seen fit to reinstate that lie in recent times. But if the farmers are half awake they should be able to use that lie to thoroughly discredit OxBridge and bring their whole scam unstuck.
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Not just feedlots- a couple of the grass fed suppliers to Coles have also been using Bovaer. Because its technically a food additive its generally given to dairy, feedlot stock because Bovaer can be admixed into feeders, etc. The grass feed farmers must have feed out bins in paddocks, which is crazy. But, I suspect Coles are strong arming these suppliers to comply. Nothing like the power of virtual signalling.
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Hmm difficult call, BUT ! but but but; THE PURE mention of a “bill gates” should be made TOXIC, according to so many many stories in the Media about the use of gates in Agriculture
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I will only drink Full Fart Milk.😀
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NZ dairy farmers are not using it so just buy New Zealand butter and cheese.
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‘The ocean absorbs approximately 90% of energy in the climate system, warming it to record levels in 2023.’ (WMO)
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What happens when it rains on the ocean EG? I assume that water evaporates, taking energy out of the oceans, then the water vapour gives up energy when it condenses, putting energy into the thunderclouds. The rain is cooler than the surface, so cold rain should cool the ocean.
Is that the way it works? We’ve just transferred energy from the oceans to the atmosphere?
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When an ocean warm pool is regulating at 30C, the surface sunlight at the base of the atmospheric column roughly equals the loss in long wave radiation from near the top of the column. Both typically 190W/m^2. That is why 30C is the limit. The surface cannot get more than 30C in a column that starts in equilibrium with the surface because the cloud that forms will cause the surface sunlight to be lower than the OLR released to space so the surface has to cool.
The air column actually absorbs heat but not quite enough to run the heat engine. It borrows some latent heat from the low to mid atmosphere adjacent to the warm pool. The heat engine over warm pools generates, on average, about 70W/m^2 in mechanical energy that we observe as wind and rain. Ama heat high in the atmosphere over the warm pool gets advected to the surrounding air mass. The convecting column acts as the atmospheric pump circulating the air.
Typical monsoon rain over the tropics will drop the surface temperature by 0.5 to 1C. A cyclone will rip out up to 4C out of the surface temperature when its sits and builds..
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Less cyclones therefore should see more bleaching events.
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Water temperature doesn’t cause bleaching, sea level falls in the western Pacific during strong El Nino, exposing coral to radiative forcing.
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“exposing coral to radiative forcing” is an odd way of saying “leaving coral high and dry”.
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Exactly. Coral polyps are risk takers. The game is to be the closest to the surface but the risk is being left high and dry. Especially with the huge Great Barrier Reef which is 1200km x 250km, the size of Germany with its own surface, rivers, valleys and high plains.
Charles Darwin correctly explained the phenomenon of coral mountains in the Pacific, islands being 3.5km of solid coral left as volcanic mountains subsided into the Pacific. Drilling for atom bomb tests in Bikini Atoll confirmed it. Plus the extraordinary fact that coral atolls/islands were always just above sea level in a world where sea level changed. He concluded correctly what later Climate catastrophists like President Barakc Obama refuse to recognize, the deadly game of staying close to the surface.
Corals are not fragile. They thrive in much hotter waters like the Red Sea and Persian Gulf. And the temperature changes from the North to South of the tall Barrier Reef is a couple of degrees anyway. The regular bleaching events only became a sure sign of ‘Climate Change’ disaster to opportunistic catastrophists. And fifty years ago no one cared before the development of a thriving reef tourist and fishing industry. Until then the huge reef was just a very unfortunate barrier, not an utterly fake reason to cripple Australia’s essential farming and power supplies.
So what happened to Lucy Turnbull’s $444 million cash gift to ‘save’ the Great Barrier Reef, the biggest Reserve bank robbery in plain sight in Australian history? It’s all a very big world game to ripoff Australians in particular, the poster child for a gigantic UN scam.
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I believe water temperature is onr of the factors. Changes in water temperature (both warmer or colder) can cause the coral stress and it expels the algae that live in their tissues. Which leads to bleaching.
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Glad to hear that as I am bombarded with the message that I am somehow responsible for global warming and this is causing the bleaching events.
I agree with sea level being a significant factor and observe Cyclones are low pressures and the absence of deep lows may actually be a significant effect on lowering sea levels across the reefs?
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THe disturbnance from the cyclone probably does more damage to the coral than warm temperature.
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A Government-(taxpayer)-funded business.
What could possibly go wrong?
There is no limit to how much of taxpayer money the Government is prepared to throw away on this insanity.
And if there is a viable market for the rare earths, then there is no need for Government funding, especially as the banks love giving money for unreliables-related projects, but not real power stations.
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Half a billion dollars is only the very start DM. Even it the mine was up and running there is absolutely no way Australia can match Chinese prices without Chinese level wages. That company will want to bleed taxpayers’ money forever, so we end up paying two or three times what we could import metals from China for.
Only the investors and the lobbyists will get rich from this stupidity!
I’d rather they subsidised an oil refinery if they had to subsidise anything..
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so we end up paying two or three times what we could import metals from China for.
I think the issue under consideration is the possibility that China will decide to not supply the mineral in question at any price.
Actually when related to medicines (abd the precursors) I would say rather more local production would be a “good thing”
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A Guv’ment funded business is a Slush Fund. Nice work if you can get it.
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Lots of people are already into one of the best lurks yet, the NDIS.
Stands for ‘Nice Damn Income Stream’.
Go out to dinner with client, can earn $67.00 an Hour on the job. Double on Sundays.
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I am on my way to the airport so don’t have time to elaborate but the NDIS rorts (scams) are huge over multiple areas. I know because I am a court-appointed guardian to someone who is a recipient of NDIS. No one in authority or politicians seem to care.
It’s even more of a rort than “renewables”.
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I presume that this is to keep lithium mines going that have shut, or about to shut. WA already has successful rare earths mining though.
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This latest brain fart by the government has the potential to surpass all previous milestones of incompetence: a management structure beholden to government, a diverse and inclusive workforce, and a project involving maybe the most complex metallurgical processes in the minerals industry. What could go wrong?
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How’s that taxpayer investment in PsiQuantum going? You know the Australian company headquartered in USA.
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As with ALL government “projects:
It is ALL about the “spillage”.
Start from the valid assumption that government can do NO GOOD and you will see things in a more realistic light.
As P. J. Orourke observed:
“Giving money to government is like giving booze and the car keys to teenage boys”
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Impeachment fails muster.
‘Despite the leader of the ruling People Power Party (PPP) Mr Han admitting that the president’s time in office needs to come to a swift end, the party still opposed the impeachment motion.
‘All but one member of the PPP left the chamber ahead of the impeachment vote on Saturday evening, boycotting the motion.
‘Two other PPP politicians returned, but without a handful more the bill could not pass.’ (ABC)
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Looks like Syria is going to be another one for the People. Good stuff.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cwy8xzxe0w7t
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“one for the People.”
Who gets the oil?
I’m pretty sure it will not be the Syrian people who benefit.
Trump :- ” We got the oil !”.
Remember?
Who is we ?
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Jonny,
Syria is heading the same way as Ukraine . The “people” are getting ISIS rebadged . You trust the BBC?
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Rumour has it that Bashar al-Assad was fleeing Damascus when his plane was shot down by a SAM, presumably not by the rebel groups, who don’t have the expertise.
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Nice rumour. Did you start it?
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No, picked it up on The Enforcer. (utube)
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The Australian reports that an Illyushin76 fighter aircraft, with Syrian flight number 9218, left Damascus about the same time as rebels entered the city. Vanished from radar around Homs.
Apparently was reported earlier on Twitter.
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IL76 is a freighter!
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SMH has a report saying he’s in Russia.
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Go the Ottomans! I gather that is the people you are referring to?
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The US proxy war against Russia has succeeded on another front.
Russia will now lose its only Mediterranean naval base for its Black Sea Fleet in the Syrian port city of Tartus.
The planned overthrow of Syria was announced shortly after 9/11 in 2001.
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Okay, so, for more than six years now I have been collecting the data and recording that data for wind generation Capacity Factor.
I recently received an email from a reader who put all of my collected data into the form of a graph, well two graphs really.
Now, I can detail the data on a weekly basis, and it’s text in the Post, with a weekly average, and ….. it’s just one piece of data in the one place.
These two graphs show it ALL in the one graph.
I asked the reader if he minded if I made my own Post about it, and then it would be perhaps a little easier to understand, if you know what I mean here, and he said I could go ahead.
So, here’s the link to my Post showing both graphs.
I also added some background as well, so it’s a long read, but the added text adds context.
Link to Post – Wind Power Generation Long Term Capacity Factor Graph Images
Tony.
PostScript – I mention in the Post that one of the sites I visited and left a comment said there was no way wind Capacity Factor was so low, and when I showed that it was, a further comment was that ….. Capacity Factor doesn’t really matter!
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Ambiguous PostScript I suppose. A better explanation is that I left a comment saying how Wind Capacity Factor was only 30%. One reply mentioned that there was no way it was that low……etc.
Tony.
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Tony, thanks for all the good work you have been doing over the years. Some of the reduction in the capacity factor for wind generation might be due to the amount of wind energy that is curtailed because of the increase in rooftop solar, particularly in South Australia. This curtailment is either forced by AEMO or voluntarily by wind farms because of high negative prices.
The major problem with wind is not its capacity factor but that the capacity factor over a week can be 50% or 10% and even less over a day or an hour particularly when this occurs at times when solar capacity is also low or zero and demand is high.
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Thanks again Tony for more excellent data, presented in an understandable way.
One question, ..
How much (if any) of the potential wind generation is lost due to “curtailment”,..IE shutting down wind plant output to offset surplus RoofTop Solar production, during midday periods ?
I dont know if any reliable data exists to quantify this but We know that this already happens often in SA, and is likley to occur more in other states in the future.
Oops !… sorry John, i did not see your post untill now ?
So , yes, same thinking 👍
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Thanks for all your efforts Tony. I note that most commentators to The Australian now use your figure of 30%. And it’s instructive to note that none of the CAGW folks have challenged this figure. Well done sir.
If I may ask for something extra, I believe that the next important point is the National grid dunkelflautes. I know that you have already said that they occur a bit less than once every three days, but it would be great to specify a low wind output baseline, either 10 or 20%, as a “dunkelflaute” criteria.
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Hmmm, should have looked at your info before the request. I think your graph data is sufficient. Need to get this out further into the wider world.
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Thank you, it makes sense.
Do you think another Tony and Chris already have such graphs on their desks?
Maybe even consult it before making some critical decisions?
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Don’t think so. There are still some commentators claiming that all that’s needed to backup the entire grid is only two hour’s storage, and that dunkelflautes are rare and don’t last very long. Also some folks are still saying that wind CF in Australia is 40%. It will take a while for the truth to sink in.
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Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that this is a game of diminishing returns. Be sure of this: wind power generation is dependent primarily on the advantages offered by the site. Sites that are windy and closer to population centres offer best ROI. Now consider this: the best sites are taken first – in most cases a future site will offer less return on investment than one already in use. We’re already using the cheapest wind power. It can only get more expensive as less ideal sites join the mix and the best sites start needed more and more maintenance – let that sink in.
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Sorry, Harves – you beat me to that Law, while I was reading Wiki articles proving that you will never win by trying to repeat other people success
What if there is a physical explanation, like: the Stone Age ended due to luck of stones?
Decrease in gust strength and duration, then noticeable lack of wind…
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That is so but it is a lot more than just siting. Once there is enough wind capacity to match the minimum demand, the wind farms start to compete for the same demand. The more capacity that is built, the less likely it will have demand to serve.
And in Australia, the grid wind and solar are competing with rooftops. The demand in SA today fell to $42MW. So there is 2,763MW of wind capacity a 587MW of solar capacity fighting for a share of the 42MW of lunchtime demand. Price bottomed at MINUS $236/MWh to force the grid scale intermittent out of the market.
So even if there were favourable sites like offshore, the rooftops do not have any of the environmental issues to contend with so can be rapidly installed and they have no short term pice signal. At this point in time, they are predominantly controlled by street voltage reaching the 254V limit.
There still a wide held belief in Australia that grid scale intermittent generators are useful. This is WRONG.
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It would be interesting to see results for different regions. It’s not as if Tony has anything better to do. 😀 😀
My gut sense, being a regular on windy.com, is that Qld in general and the tropics in particular would be bad and the other end of the scale would be the Roaring Forties, SW Vic and SE SA.
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No different on the west coast, even though it faces directly into the Indian Ocean. Last week had an evening, starting from around 5pm, right through to around 7 am next day, with grid wind near zero the entire night. Plenty of other nights with zero or near-zero wind.
And it seems that the Bass Strait, in the middle of the “Roaring Forties”, has plenty of windless periods.
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Graeme4,
I might guess you’ve probably seen this.
It’s the work I did from 4 years back, in November of 2020.
It shows the correlation between the passage of those huge High Pressure weather systems across the South where the largest number of wind plants already are located.
And here I only detailed the largest power losses due to those systems.
There were 64 of them across just 800 days. It worked out to one every seven to ten days, on varying scales.
Now this was when the Total Nameplate for wind was only 7200MW.
Now it’s almost double that, so those power losses are even greater.
I show the actual power totals, and the location of the High Pressure systems for just some of them, just to prove the point, but EVERY one of them shows the same huge loss of power directly under those Highs.
At the time, I was positively dumbfounded that I seemed to be the only one putting two and two together, and then there was Paul Miskelly long before me who did exactly the same work years before I did ….. both of us totally ignored, and seriously, I don’t even think the powers that be have even the first clue about this even now, because they still keep putting their wind plants in that same general area where wind fails so comprehensively.
At the bottom of the Post is the link to the table showing the losses.
Link to my Post – Wind Power Generation Intermittency – It’s Worse Than You Think It Is – Part Three
Four years and forty plus wind plants ago.
(Along with Paul Miskelly, I found this, and I’m an absolute nobody)
Tony.
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Hi Tony, (My responses don’t appear immediately – an issue that’s yet to be resolved.)
I’ve been recording all your important statements, plus data from Paul and others, on both wind and solar, and am always commenting in The Australian using your data. The point about the unreliability of renewables has definitely sunk in, but we still need to constantly remind Australians that solar is virtually useless as a grid energy source; and wind, while it can deliver more energy, is totally unreliable. I will study both links you have provided today and add their pertinent points to my data collections.
Please keep up the good work – it IS making a difference.
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“Capacity Factor doesn’t really matter!”
Ignoramuses, same mob who preach base load not needed.
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Given the number of names on Joe Biden’s possible “pardon list” it would be interesting to know for what they are being pardoned. It has to be assumed that Sleepy Joe was well aware of their misdemeanours, yet did nothing to keep their hands clean until he could cause as much chaos as possible on exiting. Fauci is of particular interest. ToM
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I prefer using his alternative pronouns:
Doktor Mengele Pfauxi.
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FWIW
I once saw courage beyond – a dentist who advertised service asprovided by Dr James D. Mangle
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Is it beyond imagination that Joe will (try to) pardon 10-20 million undocumented recent arrivals in the USA?
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Here’s a question for the Brains Trust here.
Do you know of any books specifically written for native Thai speakers to learn English?
It is for someone who speaks passable basic English although they don’t follow more complex or faster-paced conversations however they want to improve.
The person also picked up English by listening to others without any formal lessons so have probably acquired some bad habits.
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Dr. Peter Hotez, “We’ve Got Lots Of New Viruses Starting January 21st!” (the day Trump starts)
Peter Hotez was involved in the creation and funding of the bioweapon. He was exposed as funneling $5+mil NIH grant money to China to the Wuhan team that weaponized the virus between 2012 and 2016, and was recorded on video, (publicly available online), calling for UN NATO to help force vaccinate people in the “West”.
Jimmy Dore
https://youtu.be/ga7VaVAOvN4
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I reveived a great Christmas meme today from a friend.
It has a child opening a present upset and crying as flames emerge from the box. When you look closely, its a Lego Tesla.
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End of Hachette v. Internet Archive
Internet Archive has already removed more than 500,000 books
At least we still have Z-Library and Anna’s Archive.
Plus here’s a List of 20 websites where you can download unlimited books for free:
1. Planet eBook
2. Free-eBooks. net
3. ManyBooks
4. Librivox
5. Internet Archive
6. BookBub
7. Open Library
8. BookBoon
9. Feedbooks
10. Smashwords
11. Project Gutenberg
12. Google Books
13. PDFBooksWorld
14. FreeTechBooks
15. Bookyards
16. GetFreeBooks
17. eBookLobby
18. FreeComputerBooks
19. LibriVox
20. ManyBooks
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Why were the books removed? Fair enough if they were in copyright but if out of copyright, not acceptable.
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>Why…?
https://gprivate.com/6em31
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Albo snubs the west.
‘A western Sydney mayor has excoriated the Albanese government over its decision to scrap a proposal to shift the headquarters of SBS away from the city’s exclusive north shore.’ (The Oz)
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“16 hours ago – An explosion and fire has rocked a neighborhood in the Dutch city of The Hague, killing three people and injuring other people and destroying several apartments · December 7, 2024 at 11:46 a.m. EST5”
This from online news channels but nothing evident on most other local and MSM international news outlets. Why is it being suppressed??
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The typical reason is when the Lamestream Media know or suspect that it’s the “usual suspects”…
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Widely reported in UK.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14167959/flats-collapse-netherlands-hague-fire-explosion.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clykk717n1ko.amp
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Syria is no more, amen.
In my travels I have met some Kurds and found them warm and beautiful people. I wish them luck, this is their chance to get their own country.
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Split between Turkey, Syria and Iraq, Kurdistan will never arise if Turkey has any say. It was one of those countries wiped out by map makers. It is language which defines countries, not maps. The other curse is the oil, the Iraq area of what was Kurdistan being the second largest producer in OPEC with reserves of 45 billion barrels. It’s all about the oil, not milk and honey.
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HTS, the dominant rebels look to be accepting of the Kurds. But they have some Turk backing I think and they hate Kurds. ‘Tis a complex world.
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12 Irrefutable Proofs That Climate Change Is Real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aULpPtFp6QI
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“Romanian candidate Calin Georgescu larruped his opponent in the first round of presidential elections, only for the entire result to be ‘nullified’ by a Romanian court, absurdly citing “Russian interference on TikTok”—with no real evidence…current Romanian president Klaus Iohannis—taking a page out of Zelensky’s playbook—has declared he will illegally stay past his term’s constitutional deadline to absolutely no outrage, calls to action, or even criticism from his Western partners…Moldova’s election itself was then actually rigged after Sandu was saved only by a questionable diaspora vote from abroad…Abkhazia and Georgia came next, with massive Western interference to subvert real democracy, with NGO-bought crowds attempting to create new Maidans to intimidate leadership and subvert the political process. ”
Democracy only works when the ‘right’ candidate wins!
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/cynical-overtakes-sacred-as-the-west
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The DOD wants to replace all their white vehicle fleet with EV’s one can imagine the additional powerdraw on the grid each day especially at the super bases like Amberley, Williamstown and Tindal.
This is absolutely nuts but typical of labor, we still use white fleet in the field, imagine driving and EV out in the middle of nowhere?
I sense lots of waivers being submitted by units to avoid this issue lol.
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At #1 above Cementa says:
‘Methane certainly is not worse than CO2 which also does nothing in the atmosphere other than being necessary for plant growth’.
I think that can be interpreted as a very interesting statement.
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