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Who understands the workings of the AEC reporting?
blank (THE NEVER) vote in the Senate is a strange occurrence in Australian voting
True in the Lower House every listed candidate must be numbered. The Senate voting does allow for blank “recognition” once you have listed a modest number (varies by state?).
I still would like to see a tabulation on the count of blanks by party from those who voted above the line in the Senate.
Can we get the AEC to divulge the actual numbers?
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Skepticynic,
That Spectator article starts with this:
It’s always futile saying what might have won the election when the election has already been lost. In this case it’s also not very believable.
Firstly, how would Labor have responded? Seems likely they’d have howled: The Libs are coming for your rooftop solar. The Liberal focus group people probably wouldn’t have let that continue and, even if they had grown enough backbone, the Labor scare tactics might well have worked.
Secondly, how many of the Liberal members would *really* have gone in to bat for an anti-net-zero position? They showed no conviction in the campaign they actually ran; seems unlikely they’d have had any conviction for this one.
And to lose on this issue would make defeating Net Zero even harder in future, much like nuclear power is now political “kryptonite”.
The federal Liberals are a lacklustre operation that deserved to lose. Same goes for Labor.
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If shouting “they will come for your rooftop solar” then explain the plan to drain every battery and EV whenever they need to stop blackouts.
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SteveR,
That’s a fair line of reasoning, but how well did the Libs fight off the repeated Nuclear will be $600 billion claim?
Bearing that in mind, how would they have done with this more complicated argument against domestic batteries? I think Albo (with a helpful media) would have been all over them with how much better for “Shtraya” his subsidised batteries plan was than their relentless negativity.
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From The Spectator
https://archive.md/hp2zz
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See my post #12.
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Saint Peter don’t call me cause I can’t go! I owe my soul to the company store!
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Funny how the cry of OMG! We are falling behind! When promoting the latest PC cause. But when the world changes direction, we seem to be the last to wake up. Failing to “keep up” because it acknowledges all that proceeded was BS. Just stop talking about it, a couple of Look Squirrels! and slowly slowly talk about emerging reality as if its all very surprising and new.
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The latest Starship had a successful launch but then there were problems for re-entry for both Starship and the booster.
You can see the relevant video here:
https://youtu.be/NVYGWN5YrZM
All previous fixes were applied and worked but apparently this failure was due to new problems.
Elon Musk’s philosophy is to learn from every failure and keep trying.
I’m confident he will get there.
Don’t forget, Starship is the biggest, most powerful rocket ever launched with a gross mass of over 5,000 tonnes.
One of its first jobs apart from moon and Mars missions will be to deliver Starlink satellites.
A SpaceX Falcon 9 can deliver 23 v2 Starlink satellites to orbit while Starship can deliver 54 v3 satellites. Each Falcon 9 launch can deliver 3 terabits/s capacity to Starlink but each Starship launch will be able to deliver an extra 60 terabits/s of Starlink capacity.
The v3 satellites are much larger and more capable than v2. The v3 satellites are too big to launch on Falcon 9.
There are a lot of Musk detractors. Musk Derangement Syndrome is a terrible thing. It’s usually a comorbidity with Trump Derangement Syndrome. I call the combined condition TEDS. Trump and Elon Derangement Syndrome.
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Australia could have had a space program and was one of the first countries to launch a satellite. It launched WRESAT in 1967.
The US Army had been testing Redstone missiles in the Australian desert and at the end of the program they didn’t want to take them back because it was too much trouble to defuel them so they offered them to the Australian Government for research purposes.
We took one but I think it was the clueless Science Minister at the time Harold Holt, also PM, said something to the effect that he could see no future in space exploration and didn’t accept the others. If it wasn’t him it certainly was another official in the Government of the day as I recall. In any case, that was the end of the Aussie space program for decades.
I wrote an article about WRESAT.
https://www.siliconchip.com.au/Issue/2017/October/WRESAT%3A+Australia%E2%80%99s+first+satellite+%E2%80%93+50+years+ago%21
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The WRE in “WRESAT” would be for Weapons Research Establishment in Edinburgh, SA.
They did good work in their day. They developed the Jindivick unmanned target aircraft and missiles to shoot it down and did the initial work on Jindalee over the horizon radar.
https://seapower.navy.gov.au/sites/default/files/styles/ship_image/public/aircraft/Jindivik3.jpg?itok=ODf4XUVH
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Our politicians, not working for us in any capacity, maybe Holt was working for the Chinese after all.
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I think most Australian politicians are, to this very day.
Unfortunately the SMH articles are now paywalled but basically fake conservative Howard oversaw the signing of a bizarre 30 year contract for gas supply to the Chicomms with no provision for market price or inflation. Chicomms are buying this gas today at the world’s cheapest price while Australia has a gas shortage and are now building a gas import terminal.
It’s hard to think of anything in Australia that’s actually done right.
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Technical correction (best kind) to your post.
Falcon 9 currently launches Starlink V2mini satellites. Starship will launch Starlink V2 satellites. The V2 was created several years ago, in anticipation of Starship availability, the V2 mini was/is an interim upgrade to fill the constellation in the meantime, using Falcon 9.
Addendum: Starlink revenue now exceeeds the NASA budget.
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Noticing more and more Starlink systems popping up in my part of regional VIC mostly tied to businesses and wealthier residents so far.
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Who knew – if you caught a bus in Toowong in the mid-80s, you might have been on one of the first attempts at a hybrid. REG – Unlike many modern hybrid systems, this one didn’t involve a battery. The most important feature was a couple of big pressure accumulation tanks, which used hydraulics and nitrogen gas to convert braking power into driving power
http://www.qocs.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/ABC-Article-Nov-2015-on-Bus-498.pdf
***SPOILER ALERT***
It didn’t work. For some reason it was connected to the power steering and took away from that. The extra weight also did not offset the fuel savings of the system.
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Here is a look at 25 different geographical oddities in the US, including the so-called Northwest Angle of Minnesota, a part of the United States but you have to travel through Canada to get there, unless you go by lake but that is frozen in winter. It came about due to a misunderstanding of the geography of the area when borders were being drawn up.
https://youtu.be/KcxQeq4QHqM
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Quote “Ideas are bulletproof.”
From “V for Vendetta“, 2005.
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What’s to bet this company will be soon looking to hire more humans to replace the other humans they just sacked (fired).
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I rang BIGW in January about the return of a Christmas gift.
BIGW had recently deployed AI.
After approx 10 minutes I eventually was able to get the message across to the AI that it was not helping regarding my query and I needed to speak to a real person.
The lady I talked to informed me that BIGW had only recently deployed tha AI as a “trial” version. I very politely told her that the AI was worse than useless and BIGW management should never have deployed it in its “trial” state.
She was lovely. Very appreciative of my comments and told me that others had similar complaints.
The AI was worse then one of those foreign call centres that some Australian companies use.
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I think we are going over the crest of inflated expectations on the hype curve with these sort of commercial systems. It all smells a lot like drone delivery.
The trough of disillusionment awaits.
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Ongoing electrical grid dismantlement in Australia, what’s next?
Jo has already reported that the only thing stopping widespread power blackouts is large payments from the taxpayer to the aluminium smelters to enable them to be “load shed” when the wind stops blowing and the sun stops shining.
But what happens when they inevitably shut down due to unfavourable business conditions in Australia PLUS one or more additional power stations are destroyed?
There will be no “spare” power to liberate by shutting down smelters and insufficient power from power stations.
What’s stopping the lights going out then?
I’m guessing the government will secretly purchase or lease large numbers of diesel generators as I believe has already been done in Tasmania and SA at various times. So will generate grid power like they do in Third World countries because they don’t have proper power stations.
Or will the lights go out.
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So where will they get the diesel? With coal and gas we have power at no cost for hundreds of years. So the government forces us to import fuel? Why?
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Well, we could use brown coal** to produce diesel fuel. Known technology and it would cut down the cost of importing diesel.
**I believe there are large amounts laying around in Victoria where they might be used.
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Germans did that during WWII. They were limited with octane rating but that may have been not knowing of or not having the additives such as lead. Their ME 109s ran on regular petrol while the Allies’ aircraft used green 100/130 which allowed more boost.
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So use brown coal to produce diesel to generate power so that brown coal is not used. That would count towards Net Zero. Chris Bowen would agree.
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TdeF:
Not necessarily; you have to move mining stuff for export to the wharfs and bring in those manufactured goods (that we can afford) to the cities and towns.
HANRAHAN:
The Germans used diesel engines for aircraft, having expertise (for aero) back to the 1920’s or earlier. Presumably they gave some thought to the possible future (unlike our governments).
One of the faults with the British R101 was their decision to use only British (marine diesels) so their 4 engines weren’t that powerful and there was a fifth engine (unnecessary weight) purely to handle reverse movement. German aero diesel motors were lighter and some could also be used for reversing.
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Yes, but what if you use coal burning boilers directly in the aircraft? The Dornier Pfeil had propellers both ends and could reach 800km/br but a similar coal burning Chris Bowen craft could double as a helicopter by counterrotation.
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And there are “Summer” & “Winter” blends too for variable climates.
Double diesel storage capacity required to meet safety standards.
Some “O” rings & gaskets fail in some climes if not matched to fuel.
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We could even make town gas! And briquettes, which could be used as a match for black coal in energy content but starting far less black.
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I used to burn briquettes in the old pot bellied stove which was in my house when we moved here forty five years ago. Although the old stove was not efficient by today’s standards, it could be loaded with the briquettes before bedtime to maintain a cosy ambient temperature overnight. Now I have a much more efficient woodburner, but sadly, briquettes are no longer available.
I am fortunate however, to have a backup plan – living adjacent to a well-known heritage steam railway, I am able to gather fallen coal on my daily walk and yesterday managed to score around five kilograms of solid, fossilised sunshine. I enjoy sitting in the armchair and watching through the glass as it releases copious amounts of thermal energy. Quite amazing, really, when you watch it.
Oh, I also have access to lots of good old Aussie hardwood. What a blessing. Doing my bit to maintain C02 levels. Am I eligible for a subsidy?
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If architecture is said to be frozen music, surely coal is frozen energy.
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It’s old sunshine captured by plants 300 to 360 million years ago in the Carboniferous, before the bugs and insects evolved to digest the new lignins. And now dry compressed metamorphic, solid. Later coal and peat is wet, swamp plants. From times when CO2 was double and life boomed on earth. A marvel left in the ground for us. And now we are not allowed use it. But we are allowed sell it, as long as the government gets its share. The boom in coal, gas and iron ore should see us rich like Saudi Arabia. The reality is that we are going to be as poor as Argentina and Venezuela.
But politicians can throw away billions on their pet schemes. A PM can give $444million to his wife with no questions asked, no request or plan. We still pay $14Million a year each year on the borrowed money, never seen again.
Another PM can spend a Billion dollars on shares in a Californian speculative Quantum Computer company with no plan, no return on investment likely. And they can talk about Green hydrogen, green steel, renewable powerhouse fortunes we will export by submarine cables. Without a single person being the slightest bit competent to talk about such things. Global Warming! It’s all about money.
And none of this goes past Parliament. It’s as if the ministers of the Crown are the new Medici. But leaving a trail of $2Trillion in debt for us to pay. And then going into comfortable retirement on indexed generous pensions we have to pay. A Nation’s gratitude.
What a life! Who needs to get a job when you can be a billionaire politician? Like the Clintons, Bidens, Obamas, Al Gore. You just need a lot of friends. It’s been a long time since the PM of Australia was a train driver, someone you could respect.
And what does go through parliament, endless CO2 laws no one hears about. 35% Carbon tax on CO2 hidden in your everyday bills. Carbon Credits. Cash for trees. Never mentioned by politicians, aspiring politicians or the press. It’s as if it did not exist. Jacked up every June 30th by 5%. And a Mafia like code of Omerta.
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I think “load shedding” or “demand management” should be given a different name that correctly describes the situation.
Something like “controlled blackout” seems to be more appropriate to me.
It is after all a shortage in generation capacity that is the cause of the problem.
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Those diesel generators have been around, the first we heard of them was when Tassie lost their ‘extension lead’ during a drought, then once the emergency was over, they were shipped off to South Australia, then Western Australia, then Broken Hill, then back to South Australia.
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Not every cloud has silver lining but…
I hope the election forced upon Australia a pause to rethink the whole issue, from the foundation up. Not from the top down, fixing each crisis as a day brings it.
Just as example – the need for common power grid. It is good idea for many countries but Australia, even Canada may be easier.
Just before the election some prominent Labor people have openly said the nuclear future is inevitable. Strangely enough conservatives missed those words, they deserved the loss.
To me the irrational fear of nuclear energy is irrational, that is it. Though EHV and/or gas mixture above LEL are invisible, people deal with them daily, some people – all days, all their professional lives.
Why nuclear energy is different?
In one respect today it is different – it is a cutting edge of science, not just technology, like super-efficient HC burning. The jury is still out.
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Nuclear future is only inevitable in the minds of the emissions shy; we’ve hundreds of years supply of brown coal here in Victoria, so sometime in the next twenty years when the last of the wind turbines has clagged out there’ll be no other option but to produce electricity from it.
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May be, may be not.
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A lot in the Labor movement over the years have supported nuclear power, including Bob Hawke, but its come to nothing. The ordinary folk don’t want a bar of it.
The Coalition is back together and the nuclear option is still on the table, so now they are going to try and lift the bans. They might be successful, but I’m confident that the expense and time to build make nuclear power unviable in the short term.
The Coalition should go to the next election with coal and gas on their platform, telling the masses along the way that CO2 does not cause global warming, its a scam. Blackout Bowen would lose his seat.
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Those quotes were ridiculous. The first one is the most expensive and they get dramatically cheaper, as do all things with volume. But you are building for the future as they have longevity which windmills and solar panels do not. One is an investment in base load. The other is just blowing in the wind.
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Why not to conduct a proper open specs review to start with?
Begin with accepting a realising town/cities sizing for the duration of project life and the need or otherwise too redo the grid.
Including the waste volume over the period and realistic costs of disposal.
Including the cost of coal potentially sold to overseas.
Etc,,. etc,…
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” The ordinary folk don’t want a bar of it.” Which shows the Green propaganda over the last 40years to be extremely effective.
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Speaking of dismantling
https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/sustainability/not-financially-viable-australias-first-commercial-wind-farm-set-to-be-decommissioned/news-story/744890ae13917de8e69bb7e4056092d6
Shame such a “perfect” site cant be redeveloped. You would think subsidies could be ratcheted up just for the PR optics.
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Wow! Lasted 25 years before completely useless? But what happens to the transmission line? Who gets their money back? Cars last longer with more moving parts. And who pays for dismantling all this?
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And ““At this stage, Pacific Blue is not pursuing a repowering option for Codrington, a statement from the company said.”
Which is an absolutely ridiculous bit of double speak! So after 22 years of incredibly worthwhile Green energy, it is not worth replacing?
Surely wind is eternal, renewable and free and very profitable at double the electricity prices of 2020? With the public paying for the windmills but the owners getting all the cash, even for production which is not used?
Or do they have to use their own money this time to get another windfall from the public? Has the government moved their CO2 strategy to wrecking the 250 ‘biggest polluters’ with a direct 35% CO2 tax on all goods and services, transport, food, exports and even sewage? Will wrecking the entire electricity production system be complete?
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Another ‘community’ ripoff “While specific profit margins are not publicly disclosed, the company’s focus is on generating long-term social, economic, and environmental value for the local communities. ” And the times have been very good “Pacific Blue’s Community Benefit Sharing Program has provided over $5 million to over 1,000 local projects across regional Victoria, New South Wales, South Australia, and Queensland”
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‘..prevented 49,000 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions…’ More like – ‘..robbed the planet of 49,000 tonnes of live – giving carbon dioxide…’
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Not the first. The first ones, in Esperance WA, were closed some time ago after only 15 year’s operation. It is reputed that the turbine blades were dumped in the coastal sandhills and the sites offered to the local council as car parks. I thought that another site has also closed in Queensland?
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You don’t have to look far to find out there is a lot we really don’t know….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mweru_Wantipa
Lake Mweru Wantipa or Mweru-wa-Ntipa meaning “muddy lake” (also called ‘Mweru Marsh’) is a lake and swamp system in the Northern Province of Zambia. It has been regarded in the past as something of mystery, displaying fluctuations in water level and salinity which were not entirely explained by variation in rainfall levels; it has been known to dry out almost completely.
However at various times in the recent past it has been reported to be not a lake but a swamp with hardly any open water surface, and even to be a plain of dried out mud (littered with fish scales and bones, and the skeletons of dead crocodiles and hippos). These variations in open water surface occur not just within a single dry and rainy season cycle, but over years or decades. For instance it was reported as being a lake in 1890, 1897, 1911, 1919 and 1938, but a swamp in 1892, 1900–11, 1912–19, and 1922; and as having dried out around 1916. Its greatest depth has been reported as 5 m, but at times may be less than 1 m deep over most of its surface.
The salinity also shows long term variation, it was reported as being freshwater in 1929 and 1939, but saline in 1949.
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Recycling. ♻️
Humour. Or is it?
https://youtube.com/shorts/bGAMecJk53I
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Total Australian Government debt, federal, state and local, about to roll over to $2.1 trillion.
There’s nothing stopping them now!
http://australiandebtclock.com.au/
The Sheeple, typical Green, Labor and Teal voters neither understand or care – as long as they keep getting the “free stuff”.
Enjoy!
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That is exactly why they now target unrealised capital gains in the massive Australian Superannuation funds. How many Australians were aware of this tax before they voted?
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Wouldnt have made a difference, Labor isnt going to lose votes by taxing people with $3M in Super, regardless on rationality or long term impact.
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Exactly, they’re impacting those people least likely to vote for them. It’s like the Victorian Labor insert rude swear word here with their fire services level. It’s affecting farmers and business owners, both groups with the least likelihood of voting for the socialists.
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levy not “level”.
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Yes but the Greens already want to reduce that to $2 million and inflation will soon bring that into the realm of regular people’s super (retirement funds). A Green vote will be needed to pass it through the Senate.
Plus the wealth tax, which is what it is, will no doubt expand to other areas via scope creep.
Topher Field discusses:
https://youtu.be/HNh0FAjM09s
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Not to mention that in future, that “bracket creep” will mean many will have $3m in super in a few years.
The $4 trillion and growing super piggy bank will be an irresistable honey pot for future governments happy to give other people’s money away to stay in power.
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The Greens were hoping a minority Labor government would bend to pressure, but that didn’t come to fruition.
Its dodgy policy and already we find that anyone with over $3 million in Super are putting it into liquid assets like gold.
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I’m sure they have discussed inheritance tax behind closed doors.
These wealth taxes only generate a lot of tax if they aren’t indexed. NOT to index is taxing inflation.
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The fake conservative Liberals were talking about death taxes in 2015.
The Uniparty want to take it all.
Australia needs a conservative party.
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David, you DO get tiresome, we already know your thoughts on this. How did your vote for a third party candidate go, did it alter anything?
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I think he helps new readers on Jo’s blog to know they are not alone. I value David’s input. Just occasionally I value yours Hanrahan.
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Annie, I always respect that you may read my posts and avoid harsh speech and taking the Lord’s name in vein, but you must respect my right to disagree with the group-think so prevalent here. Think of me as the Devil’s Advocate.
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No, there is no yes but. We are talking getting elected and swaying the general voter. Its about the buzz from hit the rich and no clue or care about obvious things like inflation and future tweaking. Those arent even on their radar.
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” Its about the buzz from hit the rich and no clue or care about obvious things like inflation and future tweaking. Those aren’t even on their radar.”
or even at their level of comprehension!
“part of its tax reform process.” Why don’t they just call it a ‘taxation increase process’?
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Back in the old days, ie. BC or Before Climate, it always snowed on Queen’s Birthday (this weekend for us, next weekend for Aus except WA & QLD) however, now it’s renamed as King’s Birthday (not his real birthday) a 3-day-long weekend, the snow has arrived two days early:
https://www.snow.nz/area/nz/queenstown/theremarkables/
My old stomping grounds, The Remarkables (7,500 ft) have turned from grey/green schist to pristine wintry white a whole 48-72 hours earlier than *average* – not enough to open yet locals will be getting excited. Some will claim this premature snowfall as humanity’s fault (we’re changing the seasons), some will say King Charles’ green credentials have soothed the boiling planet [sic], while others will deal with it as they do regarding any fickle slight anomaly with the weather.
Up north here it’s calm, sunny, 18*C with the ‘odd passing shower’, typical autumnal bliss before winter’s full blast arrives. Methinks the alarmists doth complain too much!
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I have only visited the top of Australia’s highest mountain once, and there was no snow. Back in BC, about 1966, you could drive almost to the top and walk the last 100 yards. My second hand ’59 VW was able to get up there, no dramas.
Kosciusko is only 7,310 ft so your mountain’s higher.
As for his highness, is somebody who “can’t see” the ugliness in the society he’s supposed to be ruling really a King?
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They go up to 12,000ft in NZ. The K1W1s have some serious hills.
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Not as high as Antarctica, which Greens call an ice cap. The Vincent Massif is 21km long and 13km wide and 16,000′ feet high. And the ice ‘cap’ alone in Antarctica is on average 3,500 metres thick, 11,000′. The whole continent is as big as South America, two Australias and yet plenty of people think it is all melting and worry about ‘sea ice’. There’s not much melting in six months of night, 16,000′ and -50C.
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I thought that BC meant Before Covid.
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FWIW
Why Musk’s move
“Somehow the AP forgot to mention that it has now been 130 days, the maximum number of days permitted for a “Special Government Employee” under law.”
https://x.com/fentasyl/status/1927890975554224322
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His job is done. He was not hired, he volunteered.
Musk just lost a third giant new rocket. This is a Mars level rocket.
Plus hopefully recyclable. So beyond anything China, the US or Russia have ever attempted
And Gerard Baker says Musk was ‘doomed to crash out of Trump world’.
These jealous self opinionated ratbags do not have a good word for Trump or Musk. There’s a conga line of them. All with unique insights. When their problem is that they are all shut out and second guessing everything. And what have they achieved themselves?
They cheer when another unelected judge tries to write the law, not just interpret it. Trump is having to go to the Constitution to have his power restated every time by the Supreme Court. Activist judges are world wide, assuming they can rule on matters beyond their jurisdiction and beyond their carefully defined job to judge the intention of the congress or parliament. And like Their ABC, they have a job for life, so instead of being protected for defending the law, they use their invulnerability to do as they please.
But the journalist and influencers have to make a living and write click bait articles about how Trump could not run a chook sale. And Musk is finished. And not a word about the fact that over 50% of Americans believe the US is on the right track and clearly they are not.
And sell the ABC, BBC, CBC, SBS and all the overpaid unelected opinionistas and judges who cheer every setback in trying to end war, improve life and secure energy to keep us warm and fed and clothed. Let them fight for a living, like everyone else. And pay for their enormous carbon footprint with their own cash.
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FWIW
“How Culpable Is the UN in the Gaza War?”
https://americanrefugees.substack.com/p/how-culpable-is-the-un-in-the-gaza?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2747685&post_id=164646761&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=131lq&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Via https://instapundit.com/722688/#disqus_thread
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When you speak of the “Gaza War” are you referring to Israel’s effort to get back their citizens held hostage?
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There was no war. It is all the people wounded and killed around a music festival. Imagine if that happened in an Australian or American or British city?
Consider that the Biden government had just awarded Iran $6billion to release 6 hostages. It was a straight line to the idea that 600 hostages were worth more.
It’s about the money. In Gaza as the world’s most subsidized city, it is all about the money. Another potential Paris on the Mediterranean turned into a hell hole for cash. Like Beirut. This is not religion. It’s about people who want cash, like the three Gazan billionaires who ran HAMAS from Qatar.
Otherwise it’s just another worthless small strip of beach in the desert. Like Dubai or Qatar.
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Strop
May 29, 2025 at 12:36 pm · Reply
I replied to your post of yesterday but have posted again in case you missed it. In that post I gave Liers from Liberals
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1868571110083520/posts/has-anyone-compiled-a-list-of-peter-duttons-lies-failures-embarrasments-backflip/3943413855932558/
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Ian,
How does this work? Strop spoke of Albanese’s many lies. You challenged him. He provided examples. Now you say Well Dutton lied too. How does this disprove Strop’s original claim? Do you keep some sort of balance sheet where, as long as they lie equally, it’s ok?
It’s not dissimilar to climate scientist logic: We said drought, you got flood. Still bad weather, so it’s climate change.
Incidentally, the spelling is liars.
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Amazing that in 2025, people have to be reminded that all politicians lie. We have come to the point of the lesser of two evils almost constantly in our Australian political choices.
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Thanks. I just replied to your post there. I see you had a link to a Renew Economy article in addition to the facebook link above, which you are using to paint the Liberals as liars as if that is a defence or excusing Albo for his MANY lies.
I’ll take the non-rebuttal to the Albo lies as confirmation you agree he told MANY lies.
What a pathetic feeble response, both here and the other reply. Thursday #2.2.2.1.2
As for what you say are the Liberal lies.
Let’s start with renew economy article in the other post.
The article itself lies in that it twists what Dutton said about having a 44% cheaper policy than Labor as meaning 44% cheaper power prices. Dutton did not claim power prices would be 44% cheaper. He said their policy (cost of power generation) was 44% cheaper than Labor’s and he only claimed that cheaper infrastructure costs mean cheaper prices. That is not a lie. Ironic that you use a lie to pretend Dutton was lying.
Then you get to the part where it says power prices would go up under Dutton’s policy and it makes out he lied. Another lie by that article because he didn’t claim prices would go down. He only claimed the power prices would be cheaper under his policy than Labor’s policy because of his policy having cheaper infrastructure costs.
I didn’t read the rest of the article. I knew I could stop there as soon as the first two points were actually lies to pretend Dutton was lying.
As for the Facebook post listing what you call lies. Is that really the best you can find? I doubt you even read it. It’s not even a list of lies. It’s basically a list of policy gripes and the Lib’s policy backflips.
The author lists them as “lies, failures, embarrassments and backflips during the 2025 federal election campaign?” It’s actually a list of policy gripes, arguable poor policy, and backflips. Only two on the list are fact based items and again they lie to create the appearance of a lie. It claims that Dutton said the Indonesians had made an agreement with Russia. He didn’t. He said Russia had approached Indonesia. That is true and actually it was the Labor party who lied to try and make Dutton look foolish. The truth came out.
We can agree it wasn’t a good campaign. But they’re not lies.
Thanks for replying but it is a pathetic attempt to excuse Albo’s MANY lies by pretending the Libs did the same. You’ve actually kicked more own goals in your reply, and show the lying is so habitual that you’ll use lies to pretend there is a lie. Just admit Albo did it.
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There’s a lot in your reply much of it fairly ordinary but most significantly you state
“It claims that Dutton said the Indonesians had made an agreement with Russia. ” He didn’t. He said Russia had approached Indonesia. ”
This is what Dutton actually said:_
“Peter Dutton has admitted he made a mistake by wrongly claiming the Indonesian president had announced a proposal for Russia to base military aircraft in Indonesia,
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/16/dutton-admits-he-made-mistake-on-indonesia-in-abc-leaders-debate-as-albanese-evasive-on-electricity-prices
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Trying to dismiss my reply as ordinary doesn’t work. It was all correct. Unfortunately for you you can’t deny that Albo told many lies and you’re really scratching around to find any the Libs told. Of course, I don’t pretend the Libs are angels. But in the scheme of things across the campaign they were were quite good. As opposed to Albo who openly lied in the debates and regularly across the campaign. It’s even worse because he promotes himself as honest.
You can’t write “This is what Dutton actually said” and then provide a quote from an article that isn’t a Dutton quote.
Your Guardian article proves what I said was correct.
This is the lie claim in your facebook link.
My response to that was, “He didn’t. He said Russia had approached Indonesia.”
Nowhere has Dutton ever claimed the Indonesians had done a deal.
The error in what Dutton had said was that he attributed the source to the Indonesian President. He clarified in various interviews that the source was the Indonesian govt. In the debate he admitted it was a mistake to directly attribute the source as being the President when he meant the President’s office. If you want to claim that it was a lie then go ahead. But if you’re going to hang your hat on that one verses the MANY Albo told then you are delusional. The fact is that the essence of what Dutton said and the point he was making was 100% true and not misleading or a lie, regardless of whether the Indo President personally said it or if it came from his govt. The Russians had approached Indonesia to use a base.
The real lie in this whole saga was Labor saying there was absolutely no truth in any of it, including that the Russians had not approached Indonesia.
But the truth came out.
Would you like to keep digging? We can still see your head.
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When is Albo going to be investigated about the many millions of tax payer funds he spent on the new road to his mansion?
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First drones, now anchor warfare…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhzFAqB–Ps
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Yes, those damm Ruskies blowing up the Nordestream pipeline!
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Looks like the Bidengate-Autopen scandal just got worse. No real shock for those following the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_shgDqoCR0
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Has President Trump succeeded with his Nato re-arming strategy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJ3PB1XYhg
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Lol! Don’t they remember who lost in 1944?? It wasn’t the Russians!
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Posted this yesterday. Not my own work, it was from a post on X.
Trump accomplishments in 4 months (May 2025)
Borders closed
Crime Down
Prices down
Gas prices down
Record Investment
Commitment to Global Peace
Men out of Womens sports
Universities told to balance ridiculous far left bias
Millions saved from fake NGO’s being shut
Tax reductions on Tips, Overtime, Pensions
Balancing Trade with China, India, UK and soon EU
Golden Dome
Exit of Paris Climate Scam
Record oil drilling
55% popularity (Rasmussen)
Reduction in government fraud
Investment in Nuclear
Record Defence spending
DEI out of military
Promotion of AI strategy in US
Actually doing what he said he would do … rare
Could Albansese /ALP in Australia or Starmer/ Labour in the UK put together any sort of list like this? Nope.
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Exit of Paris Climate Scam – even it is just his word (which is not) is invaluable for recovery from AGW cancer.
Some other points are also good, even if reversed when pendulum rushes back.
Golden Dome ? Let us talk again in few years time…
Commitment to Global Peace ?!!
From good Putin’s friend?
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Beyond meat and Methane emissions
A number of years ago the market capitalisation of “Beyond Meat “ company was estimated at about $ 8 billion (US). Thanks to big investors like Bill Gates etc. Beyond meat were the main company developing and manufacturing fake meat that we were all supposed to eat to save the world from CLIMATE CHANGE (had to put it in capitals to make it sound more scary). You know, all that meat free Fridays stuff etc. Plus, in order to market and sell more fake meat there had to be a scare campaign. So, all those burping/farting cows were contributing significant amounts of methane to make the earth boil. Or, so we were told. One problem- no one bought the meat!! The sectors capitalisation was largely based on significant increase in uptake of the fake meat products. But it never happened. Even during COVID when people were fighting over toilet paper and cheap mince meat, the fake meat very often went unsold. In addition, the sector was also aided by US government initiatives, like the inflation reduction act. It was why I could never understand how the methane scare was re-invigorated over the last 5 years. Because that scare was virtually debunked during the 1990’s, as wise people pointed out how natural sources of methane were far and away more significant than cow farts. What was the point of decreasing your cattle herd when the world’s termites produced nearly as much methane anyway? It was completely illogical. So, the media got on board with the whole cow burp scare campaign and actively promoted fake meat. No doubt helped along with seed money from those investors in companies like “Beyond Meat”. Bill Gates himself went on many shows spruiking fake meat. Then scientific institutions got on board as well, conducting research into methane reduction technologies and products (I’m looking at you, CSIRO). What’s happened now? Well, due to the lack of popularity of the fake meat products amongst us plebs, the big end of town have now quietly pulled their investment money from the sector in the US. Tried to cut their losses. The market capitalisation of Beyond Meat is now only in the hundreds of $millions- not billions as before. I’m hoping now that the scare campaign vs methane will again slowly fade away and so it should. Because it was junk science at best.
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Here we go again!
New COVID-19 strain ‘pretty much everywhere’ in Australia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-30/new-covid-strain-prompts-expert-booster-warning/105352922
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Alarmism Danger Danger Will Robinson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwOJlOI1nU
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FWIW
“In much better developments, two days ago, Stat News ran a story headlined, “‘Corrupt’ medical journals have to change, RFK Jr. says, or the NIH will publish in-house.” The sub-headline dug in deeper: “The health secretary said The Lancet, NEJM, and JAMA have been influenced by the pharmaceutical industry.” ”
More at
https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/literally-thursday-may-29-2025-c?
And other things
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FWIW
“The Change Of Guard (Well, Not Really)
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There comes a point where you have to decide.
You see, there are many topics you just can’t talk about with “advertising” these days. Like, for example, the Spanish power outage. Go where the logical information leads you, and suddenly nobody wants to run advertising against it. I’ve challenged that, but then again will I win that challenge? I don’t know.
But what I do know is that if you are told you can’t entertain logical debate without being told “oh that’s not what our advertisers want you to talk about” then there is no debate, there is no discussion and in the end we all make bad decisions as a society because we can’t put the arguments on the table and run them into the ground as only one side of the debate is compensated — the other is deliberately silenced.
Shouting louder while doing everything you can to force others to shut up does not make make your point of view correct.”
More at
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=253343
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The way of the world.. everyone wants to be paid to give you their opinion.
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UK – rapist victim gets 17 years in prison
Stabbed her attacker fatally.
https://youtu.be/_TYoStIDRJE?si=TZsnAbd56oQc9OnD
Justified? Excessive force? Feared for her own life and maybe the same fate?
Would you put your attacker’s welfare ahead of your own to appease the police?
An immigrant doing the same would get off free no doubt.
Like we saw in yesterday’s news – violent teenagers wielding machetes in a (drug fueled?) home invasion. Should we consider their unfortunate history before defending your loved ones?
Me – no [snip] way!😎 I’m skilled enough to not end your existence but you’ll probably wish I had.
Again, yesterday, we saw the Coles carpark incident with steel bars. Better ban those too now. Kebab skewers, sharpened plastic straws…why not them too!
Babylon Bee world.
https://youtu.be/UNW5tPu2xcM?si=cr724q_QQfU87aow
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As DM might have said, “I censored it so you don’t have to”
😉
/but did anyway.😁
Sticks and machetes might break my bones but memes will get you jail time.
/2025 revision
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That’s ridiculous, what happened to ‘ better to be judged by 12 of your peers than be carried by 6 of your friends’.
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Hawaii becomes first state to introduce a climate change tax on visitors
The new law will begin in January of next year and will consist of placing a 0.75% tax on visitors staying at hotels and rentals.
The new law will also be aimed at cruise ship passengers who will pay a prorated tax for the number of days their cruise ship is in a Hawaii port.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/hawaii-becomes-first-state-introduce-climate-change-tax/
Why not tax planes flying overhead while you’re at it.
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Best give Hawaii a miss.
It’s a woke Democrat state anyway.
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Especially since the space lasers.
/LOL
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Fark Hawaii. Simon, take this plane to Tahiti.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nK_O1tpEHY
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A classic and memorable ad.
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From the nation of copiers and spies comes the Chinese copy of the US Hummer.
No wonder TRUMP’s imposing tariffs on them.
There are plenty of videos of this on YT.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZEqP_qVdCU4
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Truck explodes in Chicago suburb
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jaw-dropping-video-shows-rental-truck-explosion-in-chicago-suburb/ar-AA1FzGLd
Even the humble propane tank can be dangerous. Very dangerous.
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And they want Hydrogen?
When I see a “Pollie” in a hydrogen powered vehicle – car, plane, ship – then I will laugh my head orf’.
Never going to happen.
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Don’t worry, it’s “fully safe and effective”.
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“fully safe and effective”.
Ha Ha Ha like the solar panels on the Ikea store in Springvale that just spontaneously burst into flames yesterday.
No injuries and the fire brigade had it out pretty quickly. Pity about the toxic smoke though.
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Nobody seems to see the drama unfolding right before our eyes
I’m sure some of you have become aware of new COVID-19 (C-19) outbreaks in several Asian countries (Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore, China, Japan). But even in Australia, NB. 1.8.1 is now spreading, and it has already made landfall in the US as well.
This is not going to have a happy ending (in highly C-19 vaccinated populations).
https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/nobody-seems-to-see-the-drama-unfolding
Yup.
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A load of more scaremongering by the people who want to control us.
Safe and Effective – LOL
Safe from Litigation and
Effective for injuring/maiming killing humans.
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‘The only people with immunity are the big pharma chiefs.’
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I never took the Jabs/Boosters.
And guess what?
I had a Nice Day.
Still alive at 72. My Mum is 93. I trust my genes and my Immune System.
Never trust Big Pharma. Or the Guv’ment.
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This is not going to have a happy ending (in highly C-19 vaccinated populations).
https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/nobody-seems-to-see-the-drama-unfolding
Well, this is what mRNA vaccine critic Geert van Den Bossche predicted. As I recall he predicted that the virus would mutate as a result of immune resistance.
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And the call on tonights news was_ _ _ people need to get a booster. So while the variant has changed the vax remains the same get yours now before the rush.
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Scientists warn city-killing asteroids could be headed for Earth within weeks after revealing fatal detection flaw
At least three city-killing asteroids that could strike Earth are hiding behind our closest neighbor in the solar system.
A new study warns that Venus is blocking out our view of many near-Earth asteroids – large space rocks that cross or come near Earth’s orbit – setting up the potential for a devastating impact.
These three asteroids near Venus have MOIDs of less than 0.0005 astronomical units (AU), which is about 46,600 miles – closer than the Moon’s average distance from Earth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14754795/city-killing-asteroids-headed-Earth-weeks.html
Everybody think “Canberra, Canberra” 😎
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In which case I would like one to land on Putin’s house with him in it. Then another one on Xi’s house with him in it. Then another one on Starmer’s house with him it. Then we ne need more asteroids.
Albo Sleazy is next along with many many others.
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Xi Jinping will be gone shortly. The July 18 date was prolly just rumour but some of his most loyal generals are coming to unfortunate ends, politically or actually.
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China is in deep economic strife and even the old guard are calling for democracy, XI’s demise seems certain but the timing is uncertain.
Speaking of China, this caught my eye.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/29/chinese-paraglider-peng-yujiang-survives-8000-metre-high-flight
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It seems that way, doesn’t it? Mind you, all the stories forecasting Xi’s demise remind me of the numerous stories a couple of years ago, saying that Russia was losing the war in Ukraine and that Putin was about to get the chop.
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Russia is about to lose.
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Just had lunch with two old work colleagues and we were comparing where we are with household energy. None of us have paid for electricity this year so far. The two of us still living in Victoria will both be paying the connection fee after the Victorian FIT goes to zero. The one living in Queensland will continue to get income from his FIT.
I am the only one with battery now but they are both planning for batteries this year.
I believe AEMO and the distributors can see the writing on the wall. Blackout could very well end up with “renewable” white elephants in remote locations with no connection to the grid and tax payers paying a return on their capital for no electrical energy.
People who own a roof will be just using the grid as insurance against consecutive cloudy days while leaving those who do not own a roof paying the high cost of Blackout’s white elephants and the dispatchable power plants needed to keep the grid viable.
AEMO’s ISP is in tatters with the pace of powerline construction not even measurable. Just one example:
https://www.vu.edu.au/about-vu/news-events/news/central-planning-is-failing-australias-energy-transition
Now AEMO are finally recognising that distributors are a key element of the grid with distributed generating resources. This is something the Distributors pushed in the submissions for the first ISP but was completely disregarded by AEMO. Now that transmission is in the TOO HARD basket they are looking at the distributors and the value of rooftop generation:
https://aemo.com.au/-/media/files/stakeholder_consultation/consultations/nem-consultations/2025/2025-electricity-network-options-report/draft-2025-electricity-network-options-report.pdf?la=en
None of this will lead to lower cost electricity. It is a matter of who pays the high cost; poor consumers or taxpayers. Rooftop owners get a free ride if they so choose.
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FWIW
“There Are Potholes With Deeper Intellects Than Some of These Lefties Dunking on Elon”
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/05/29/there-are-potholes-with-deeper-intellects-than-some-of-these-lefties-dunking-on-elon-n3803263
If it wasn’t for moderators she’d probably tell us what she really thinks!
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FWIW
“Billions In Green Projects Up in Smoke as Trump, GOP Slice Up Dems’ Climate Largesse”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/05/29/billions-in-green-projects-up-in-smoke-as-trump-gop-slice-up-dems-climate-largesse/
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FWIW
“Goldman analysts surprised to learn that policies of energy independence lower prices for the poor”
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/05/goldman_analysts_surprised_to_learn_that_policies_of_energy_independence_lower_prices_for_the_poor.html
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Here’s an odd one-
“Yesterday morning in Stavropol, 29-year-old Nikita Penkov approached SVO veteran Zaur Gurtsiev with some kind of package. It is unknown whether they both knew each other or not. Then, almost immediately, an IED exploded – 200 grams in TNT equivalent. Both died from the explosion on the spot.
https://ok.ru/video/9247796824704
Nikita Penkov rented an apartment in Zaur Gurtsiev’s house on Chekhov Street 15 days before the terrorist attack. The terrorist attack is very similar to the style of the Ukrainian GUR. For example, the terrorist hired by the Ukrainian special services to blow up Maksim Fomin thought that she was giving him a “present with a wiretap”, but not an explosive device.
Perhaps someone from the side observed Penkov’s actions and initiated the explosive device when approaching Zaur Gurtsiev. Zaur Aleksandrovich Gurtsiev was a participant in the “Time of Heroes” program. ”
https://voenhronika-ru.translate.goog/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/29_05_2025_leto_zhara_na_ukraine_vs_rf_prorvali_oboronu_vsu_na_neskolkikh_napravlenijakh_vdol_granicy_karta_boevykh_dejstvij_17_video/60-1-0-16472?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB
So, don’t agree to deliver a parcel to someone for a third person, that 3rd person might not be your real friend!
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