JoNova
A science presenter, writer, speaker & former TV host; author of The Skeptic's Handbook (over 200,000 copies distributed & available in 15 languages).
![](/s3/jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/sponsor/tip-jar.gif)
Jo appreciates your support to help her keep doing what she does. This blog is funded by donations. Thanks!
![](/s3/jo.nova.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/awards/winner-2015-sml.gif)
![](/s3/jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/awards/winner-2014-j.gif)
Follow Jo's Tweets
To report "lost" comments or defamatory and offensive remarks, email the moderators at: support.jonova AT proton.me
Statistics
Ok lets talk Hydrogen/Green Hydrogen.. You know, another Gov/green “renewable” dream.
Yesterday, David Maddinson posted this very pertinent point:
“Hydrogen in the home. What could possibly go wrong?”
https://joannenova.com.au/2025/02/saturday-97/#comment-2830931
I will expand on what DM revealed.
OK, apart from storage and gas pumping problems for either domestic or industrial use….
Hydrogen has a flashpoint of 22 degrees C….. Which is very low, it is roughly room temp..
And… It burns clear, basically invisible to the eye.
You can’t see it, you can’t smell it….. And in the fire service, we have to use a thermal camera to see it “burning”.
If used for cooking you will not know if the burning gas from the jet has been turned off.
And your inept Gov, councils and agencies would not have a clue about that.
This is a link to the “Hydrogen” MSDS which is very similar to what we use in our fire service.
https://www.chemicalbook.com/msds/Hydrogen.htm
171
It is extraordinary, this attack on the sixth element of the Periodic table. The old saying is that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Perhaps carbon should be made illegal and anyone selling carbon products subject to criminal prosecution?
Anyway, every living thing is made almost entirely from Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen
Oxygen O 24.0%
Carbon C 12.0%
which makes precisely CO2 plus
Hydrogen H 62.0%
which adds up to 98% of the human body. And all life.
All living things breathe
All living things burn hydrocarbons and output carbon dioxide.
Green in biology is a long chain hydrocarbon.
But CO2 is evil. Because in 37 long years, apparently billions of people are about to die from CO2 because of a change in average temperature which is not detectable except by accurate thermometers and processing of computer records across the entire planet. A change so small it is below anyone’s ability to notice.
You couldn’t make this stuff up. But now billionaire Al Gore and James Hansen discovered it in 1988 during Gore’s first Presidential campaign. And the UN agreed immediately, forming the IPCC to address the terrible problem.
And since then Western democratic societies have been punished by massive carbon taxes, windmills and solar panels which have done exactly zero to affect CO2 levels. But it’s the effort which matters.
But Hydrogen will save us. Iron ore billionaire Dr. Twiggy Forrest says so. And his vast wealth has been achieved from the smelting of his iron ore, producing vast quantities of CO2. Apparently hydrogen is the next big thing and his interest is only in our welfare.
131
“But Hydrogen will save us. Iron ore billionaire Dr. Twiggy Forrest says so. And his vast wealth has been achieved from the smelting of his iron ore, producing vast quantities of CO2. Apparently hydrogen is the next big thing and his interest is only in our welfare.”
However –
Twiggy Forrest’s cautionary tale: Flailing green hydrogen project rips a hole in Labor’s plan to turn Australia into a clean energy superpower
Without competitive power prices, Anthony Albanese’s promise to turn Australia’s fortunes around with his Future Made in Australia act is on course for a head-on collision with reality.
April 2024
https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/twiggy-forrests-cautionary-tale-flailing-green-hydrogen-project-rips-a-hole-in-labors-plan-to-turn-australia-into-a-clean-energy-superpower/news-story/1b2639de979eff226111cc3cff8dd13
100
“Twiggy Forrest’s cautionary tale: Flailing green hydrogen project rips a hole in Labor’s plan to turn Australia into a clean energy superpower”
Plan? I doubt they could even state exactly what a “clean energy superpower” is , let alone have a plan to be whatever it is. They have no plan, they just lurch from one virtue signalling decision to the next seemingly led by the nose by the grifters that inhabit the so called “renewables” industry.
00
Oxygen O 24.0%
Carbon C 12.0%
Hydrogen H 62.0%
To be fair, most is water, H2O so practically 48% H goes into H2O
leaving H14% which nicely matches for hydrocarbon for the balance. Hydrocarbon plus water.
Which is why, dried, all living things burn or turn into oil. Which is evil.
It something doesn’t burn, it’s a rock.
80
It’s flashpoint is actuality <-150°C according to your linked SDS.
20
N/A
70
Yes, to get the lowest flashpoint you first have to cool hydrogen to a liquid at air pressure, which means -150C.
20
Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
10
I’m sick of hearing that “Australia will become a clean energy superpower”.
We already have plenty of clean energy but don’t use it: coal, gas and vast amounts of uranium.
CO2 is neither dirty or a pollutant.
The only sort of power Australia is becoming is a stupidpower.
20
Hydrogen has a flashpoint of 22 degrees C…
Hydrogen is gas well below room temperature so the notion of flash point is not relevelent. The 22.8C in the hazard color coding is taken as room temperature. I is not the flash point.
The greatest difficulty in using hydrogen domestically is finding a suitable odorant. Hydrogen lowest combustion range is just 4%. So finding and adding an odourant detectable to humans at very low concentration is a serious challenge.
The linked article discusses the challenges of odorising hydrogen:
https://www.kiwa.com/494846/globalassets/netherlands/marktenpaginas/documenten/whitepaper-hydrogen-odorization-status-and-challenges.pdf
10
Vice President JD Vance, attacks Sir Kier Stalin’s Satanic socialist Britain, for criminalizing Christian thoughts and prayer: https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1890404397299167556
101
It seems the real evil for a thousand years has been Islamophobia. But I thought the whole point of Jihad and terror was to create Islamophobia? Either way, new Labor says it’s Christianity which is the problem. And Judaism of course.
70
Excellent comments by JD.
00
Once Great Britain has at least another four years of Starmer as they have five year fixed terms.
It’s unthinkable what Britain might be like at the end of that time.
I think it might well be the first country in Europe under the control of followers of the seventh century warlord.
10
Our lates “Save the whales from wind” action:
https://www.cfact.org/2025/02/14/coalition-to-burgum-stop-offshore-wind/
Much fun coming.
51
60
Ridiculous. Long Live Free Speech.
50
Swiss voters reject green overhaul of economy.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-politics/swiss-voters-skeptical-about-ecological-overhaul-of-the-economy/88836726
50
Executive Order:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/establishing-the-presidents-make-america-healthy-again-commission/
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:
Section 1. Purpose. American life expectancy significantly lags behind other developed countries, with pre‑COVID-19 United States life expectancy averaging 78.8 years and comparable countries averaging 82.6 years. This equates to 1.25 billion fewer life years for the United States population. Six in 10 Americans have at least one chronic disease, and four in 10 have two or more chronic diseases. An estimated one in five United States adults lives with a mental illness.
These realities become even more painful when contrasted with nations around the globe. Across 204 countries and territories, the United States had the highest age-standardized incidence rate of cancer in 2021, nearly double the next-highest rate. Further, from 1990-2021, the United States experienced an 88 percent increase in cancer, the largest percentage increase of any country evaluated. In 2021, asthma was more than twice as common in the United States than most of Europe, Asia, or Africa. Autism spectrum disorders had the highest prevalence in high-income countries, including the United States, in 2021. Similarly, autoimmune diseases such as inflammatory bowel disease, psoriasis, and multiple sclerosis are more commonly diagnosed in high-income areas such as Europe and North America. Overall, the global comparison data demonstrates that the health of Americans is on an alarming trajectory that requires immediate action……
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/establishing-the-presidents-make-america-healthy-again-commission/
51
More performance politics:
40
More wacky Laws being proposed. Hasn’t Congress got better things to do like stop the waste and corruption that the DOGE is gradually uncovering?
Of course not as the “Pollies” have already been bought by Big Pharma and many others.
30
Another one of those bills that’s not meant to pass, merely to ‘start a conversation’?
Reminds me of that poor chap Onan from the Old Testament (Genesis 38:9) who was obliged to go in unto his dead brother’s wife, yet withdrew at the last moment, which ‘displeased the LORD, wherefore he slew him also’.
A whole lot of slewing going on in those days, and that’s how the word ‘Onanism’ made it into our dictionaries today.
00
Warning: Beware “climate change obsession” coupled with “eco-anxiety” especially if your confidante is a computer.
50
Does this qualify him for a Darwin Award? Maybe there is some other award that fits better.
40
Eeerie DOGE video.
I don’t think it’s official but from an independent creator and it’s excellent. (Come to think of it, it might be official. Elon would publish something like this.)
Very short.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2177215486049695
20
Another DOGE video (go to link). I don’t think this is official.
60
I love the expression:
10
Australia no longer has competitive power prices but it does have competitive taxpayer-funded subsidies.
It worries me that as TRUMP shuts down the “green” energy scams, the subsidy farmers will come here (Australia) to “invest”.
And, they’re safe even under the alternative Dutton Government as he remains committed to the Paris Accords.
10
The same day Zelia morphed into ex-TC Zelia in WA, snow began falling in Tasmania (as forecast by BoM). Snow in Australia? During the hottest summer EVAH?
https://tasmania.panomax.com/ben-lomond
https://benlomondalpineresort.com.au/weather-cam/
Sunday morning up on Tasmania’s Ben Lomond and overnight snow still lingers on the ground with a cool change heading north. 2025: Snowiest February Ever?
20
A Leftist “university” “professor” tried to humiliate Barron Trump, President Trump’s youngest son in an advanced mathematics class Barron was attending.
Young TRUMP ended up humiliating her, in a respectful way, as the boy is extremely smart and also polite.
Here’s a description of what happened.
https://youtu.be/1gr6Tb7gbY0?
20
PICK YOUR ENERGY FUTURE
The Alliance for Responsible Citizenship and the Page Research Centre have producing the first clear defence of coal as the obvious fuel of first choice to lower the price of electricity and give us a hope for the future as a modern industrial nation.
https://www.arcforum.com/research-papers/choices-pro-human-future
The full report can be found at a link in the summary paper.
First option, of four is the “No net zero” scenario with cheap and reliable power from new coal burners. Capital investment is $103 billion with retail prices potentially decreasing by 25%. Pillage of forests and farmland stops.
They correctly note that we desperately need to have a reliable and cost-effective energy supply that is not captive to the scientific illiteracy and ideological obsessions of the Greens and their fellow travellers in the major parties.
40
FWIW
“GOOD BEHAVIOR
JUDGMENT COMES”
https://eko.substack.com/p/good-behavior
If true that brings to mind
“Awaiting the sensation of a short sharp shock
From a cheap and chippy chopper on a big black block”
10
FWIW –
Link: https://accordingtohoyt.com/2025/02/14/preserved-in-amber/
An interesting comparison in there –
“Take environmentalism, in its “anthropogenic global warming” which was not only supported with massive amounts of money (some of it obtained by blackmailing companies) but also with a seamless wall of propaganda so impenetrable that science fiction writers probably unwittingly and just because it’s everywhere (I don’t know maybe I should look for their names in the USAID site) couldn’t write the future without claiming that you know, in a hundred years Florida would be under water.
And yet…. and yet, they keep having to change their name like a poorly run Chinese restaurant. Global Warming became Climate Change which became Severe Weather Events which…. well, is dissolving before our very eyes, even before their money was yanked.“
10
A reading of the tea leaves
“Oh Boy, Body Language Alert: Vice President JD Vance Meets with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy
February 14, 2025 | Sundance | 30 Comments”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/02/14/oh-boy-body-language-alert-vice-president-jd-vance-meets-with-ukraine-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy/
20
And
“Compare and Contrast Body Language: U.S. Politicians Who Skim Ukraine Funds Meet with Zelenskyy in Munich
February 15, 2025 | Sundance | 12 Comments”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/02/15/compare-and-contrast-body-language-u-s-politicians-who-skim-ukraine-funds-meet-with-zelenskyy-in-munich/
00
FWIW
“The Sound Of Settled Science’
“Gout is often associated with drinking too much or not eating healthily enough, but research suggests genetics play more of a factor in developing the arthritic condition than previously thought.[…]”
https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2025/02/14/the-sound-of-settled-science-195/
10