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    OldOzzie

    Moment Australian official performs acknowledgement of country in AZERBAIJAN during climate change conference: ‘Farce’

    A year on from the failed Voice referendum, the value of acknowledgement of country ceremonies are again being widely debated in Australia.

    But no one expected to have such a ceremony performed by an Australian government delegation in Azerbaijan, 13,230km from Sydney, which has been dubbed ‘a complete farce’.

    Most Australians probably couldn’t find Azerbaijan on a map – it’s a former Soviet republic, partly in Asia and partly in Europe – but that didn’t stop delegate Dr Clare Anderson from performing an acknowledgement of country there to a near empty-room.

    Speaking at the 2024 United Nations Climate Change Conference in the oil and gas rich country, she first welcomed the delegates ‘to the opening panel session of the Australian Pavilion’.

    ‘My name is Clare Anderson and I’m the group director of sustainability performance at (sustainability solutions company) Worley. I’m very delighted to be here today,’ she began.

    But from there, it must have been very confusing for the audience as Dr Anderson launched into an acknowledgement to country.

    ‘To start – whilst we’re not on Australian land – I’d still like to start with acknowledging the traditional owners of Australia and the Torres Strait Islands and pay my respects to their elders, past, present and emerging,’ she said.

    If those hearing the words in Azerbaijan’s capital Baku were baffling, many of those watching the conference online back in Australia where they might actually mean something, were outraged and baffled.

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      Yarpos

      Stretching ever so greatly to signal virtue to those in her bubble.

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      Skepticynic

      Don’t they have eggs and rotten fruit in Azerbaijan?
      Launched from the audience, donations of that kind are a suitable traditional welcome and gesture of appreciation for fools and idiots such as Claire Anderson.
      Australia’s international reputation will be thoroughly trashed after Albo, Bowen, and now this Anderson woman finish parading their stupidity.

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      GlenM

      What a twit. Vacuous mind trained for idiotic slogans and comments. I’m sure she made everyone stand up and notice her award winning virtue signaling.

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      Graeme4

      She welcomed only five delegates actually in the room, two of which seemed to be busy with other matters. Obviously the rest of the 34,000 conference attendees weren’t interested.

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      TdeF

      Welcome to Country in Azerbijian should have been more universal. We should have used the services of our famous Olympian, Raygun to do a breakdance, gum leaf burning spectacular just to show them the fusion of cultures in Australia.

      The hundreds of Australians are so woke they cannot sleep, but that could be the jet lag from UN conferences to save the world from carbon dioxide. And to pay homage to the home of black caviar, the other major black export of Baku. Also a most famous Australian horse. All the 394 Australian attendees are so multi cultural it hurts and we just hate fossil fuels. We really do.

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    They’re Coming for Your Privacy—and They’re Doing It Fast

    Nation First analyses the Online Safety Amendment (Social Media Minimum Age) Bill 2024 and finds it to be a tool for undermining your privacy.

    From George Christensen of Nation First
    Nov 21

    “We all know social media can be dangerous for kids. It’s a world filled with predators, bullies, and content that can mess with their minds and emotions. Parents are right to demand action. You and I both know something needs to change.

    But the Australian Government’s “solution” to this problem isn’t the way. That “solution”—the Online Safety Amendment (Social Media Minimum Age) Bill 2024—is a rushed, reckless piece of legislation that puts your privacy—and the privacy of every Australian—at serious risk. This isn’t just about kids anymore. It’s about you, me, and the government sticking its nose into every part of our online lives.”

    “Have you heard about how fast they’re moving on this? The government is ramming the Bill through Parliament. They’ve given Australians less than 24 hours to make public submissions to an also rushed Senate inquiry—barely enough time to read the thing, let alone understand it. Why the rush? What are they trying to hide?”

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      This could be the start of a Digital ID.

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      KP

      ““We all know school can be dangerous for kids. It’s a world filled with predators, bullies, and content that can mess with their minds and emotions. ”

      Fixed it for you… Nothing new at all, its just childhood. Running a business is no different either, you will meet all those people you hated at school, 20years on, and they’ll still be the same!

      Actually, “It’s a world filled with predators, bullies, and content that can mess with their minds and emotions” describes politics perfectly!

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      And there goes the Future Fund………………………..

      https://www.futurefund.gov.au/

      If the Feral Guv’ment wants to have Funds that they wish to invest in Renewables, Housing and Infrastructure then it should have already done this as part of the Annual Feral Budget. But, Oh NO. Let’s get the main Future Fund, that is now around $300 Billion, to adjust it’s Investment Mandate to include these. three areas.

      However, If the projected investment returns and investment risk do not add up, then the Future Fund should not go there. Just keep on doing what you have been doing. And please keep up the Good Work. IMHO.

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        Steve of Cornubia

        Labor will promise that this redirection of fund investments will maintain or even increase returns. Of course every sane person with both eyes open will know this to be a lie, but they don’t care, because for Labor, there are NEVER consequences.

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        Broadie

        However, If the projected investment returns and investment risk do not add up, then the Future Fund should not go there. Just keep on doing what you have been doing. And please keep up the Good Work. IMHO.

        ? What good work???

        I am all for the return of the funds appropriated from the proceeds of the sale of Telstra. Funds that were taken to provision for the unfunded superannuation of Federal government. The provision for super should have been from actual budgeted wages and salaries of the bureaucrats and politicians at the time and not taken from the sale of the family silver. The whole fund should be tipped into paying off national debt or as this Government is being forced to do pay for the crazy green schemes. The condition would be that the super fund will return to ‘contributors’ the fruits of its investments. They can experience what family primary producers, small to medium businesses and their employees have experienced over the last 40 years of a managed decline of all that was recovered from the sacrifice of two world wars, a decline into the mess of socialist idealism and its natural progression to a cosy arrangement between big government and big government, ‘Fascism’. The productive classes have had their wealth and that of their future generations destroyed by the ‘swamp’ so their should be little concern for the same being visited on the swamp dwellers when the windfall from a fund managing the research of ‘clot shots’ is frittered away on failed technologies.

        Australia Invests in mRNA Vaccines
        The Australian Government’s Medical Research Future Fund (MRFF) has invested in various initiatives to support the development and manufacturing of mRNA vaccines. Here are some key examples:

        Grant Opportunity for mRNA Clinical Trials: In 2022, the MRFF announced a grant opportunity to support clinical trials of mRNA-based vaccines and therapeutics. Up to $25 million was allocated over three years, with $15 million available in 2022-23.
        mRNA Manufacturing Facility: The Australian Government invested $25 million in a new mRNA manufacturing facility in Victoria, which will produce respiratory vaccines for potential future pandemics and seasonal health issues. The facility will also play a leading role in medical research.
        BioCina’s mRNA Centre of Excellence: The MRFF granted $5 million to BioCina, a contract development and manufacturing organization (CDMO), to establish an mRNA Centre of Excellence in South Australia. This project aims to develop enabling technologies for the manufacture of precision mRNA vaccines and will be matched by the South Australian Government.
        Victorian mRNA Innovation Hub: The Victorian Government invested $5.4 million through the mRNA Victoria Activation Program (mAP) to establish the Victorian mRNA Innovation Hub (VMIH). This hub will bring together mRNA experts from various institutions to develop next-generation mRNA vaccines and therapeutics, and will support up-and-coming researchers.

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        Rachel Reeves, UK HM Chancellor of the Exchequer [Finance bod], who was a bank teller or similar, it seems, is umm, looking at, and encouraging, a similar move by UK local authority pension funds.
        I’m no expert.
        But if the larger funds are to ‘invest’ in ‘uninvestable’ “opportunities” – then a Whole Host of folk will lose their pension.

        My view.

        Obviously Sir Starmer can’t lose his Chancellor, His TDS Foreign Secretary, and his Mad – could he be actually treasonous?? – Energy and Nut Zero Geezer [Mr Miliband, in case you missed him!] in a few months – or at least, not without criticism [he doesn’t do criticism] – or, perhaps, an ‘Et tu, Brute’ scenario, since they are HIS appointments.

        Perhaps led by The Angela of the North.

        We’ll see. Angela is more likely to be the dagger-wielder than the beneficiary.
        Reference the late [yesterday] Lord [John ] Prescott.
        A class warrior of the left, but also a great friend of Merchant seamen – in the UK and globally.

        Never likely to be leader, he supported Tony B.Liar and helped set up the inquiry into the loss of the M.V. ‘Derbyshire’.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Derbyshire

        A salutary reminder to all those at sea when she was lost – with all 44 souls on board – that the sea is not to be trifled with.
        Shall we say.

        Even in a large and well-found ship.

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          Roy

          If the British government puts my pension and the. Pensions of millions of other British citizens at risk what legal remedies do we have against those politicians? If there are legal remedies will all our money go to the lawyers supposedly acting on our behalf?

          Perhaps we will have to resort to direct action against politicians who think our money is theirs to play with.

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        ozfred

        If the Feral Guv’ment wants to have Funds that they wish to invest in Renewables, Housing and Infrastructure then it should have already done this as part of the Annual Feral Budget.

        What is the Norwegian Future Fund planning on doing?

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      RickWill

      This would be a very bad move for Australia.

      You work for the government and your retirement income depends on sustaining theft from electricity consumers too poor to make their own. Who thinks the mandated theft will end?

      If you do not have a plan for making your own electricity then you need to get to it.

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    OldOzzie

    Is The Deep State Pushing Nuclear War To Prevent A Trump Presidency?

    Lobbing a few NATO-manufacture long-range missiles into Russia is unlikely to make any tactical or strategic difference in the war, not when Russia controls much of the Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine, including the Crimea as well as Donetsk and Luhansk provinces in eastern Ukraine.

    As I wrote in a previous essay, the Biden decision is best explained by what appears to be a preemptive military coup in which U.S. generals fearing prison terms and possible convictions for treason prefer the risk of triggering a global thermonuclear war rather than allowing Donald Trump to take office on January 20, 2024.

    The Deep State initially had available only three strategies to keep Trump from returning to the White House. All three have failed, requiring a more extreme strategy—nuclear war.

    [snip]

    Even a limited Russian nuclear response would hamper Trump’s ability to end the war in Ukraine quickly after his inauguration. Should a Russian nuclear response lead to a global thermonuclear war, the World Economic Forum’s depopulation goals would only be achieved much sooner than anticipated.

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      OldOzzie

      Obama’s Ukraine Cover Up

      Last week we wrote about the central role Obama played in establishing the Russiagate Hoax. This week we’re going to take a closer look at why Obama was so involved. What drove him to push a hoax that had been ostensibly put into place by the Clinton campaign?

      Many are aware of Biden’s entanglements in Ukraine but most are unaware of Obama’s implicit involvement.

      For some time now it’s been our working theory that Russiagate originated, at least in part, as the result of what Joe Biden was doing in Ukraine – and as a result of Obama’s knowledge of Biden’s actions.

      Recall that Biden’s involvement in Ukraine traces back to at least early 2014 when he was pulled into the U.S. overthrow of Ukraine’s democratically-held elections by Victoria Nuland, the assistant secretary for European and Eurasian affairs in the Obama State Department.

      In November 2013, Ukraine’s president Yanukovych turned down a U.S.-backed trade deal with the European Union in favor of an emergency bailout from Russia, a decision which was understandable from Ukraine’s perspective but one which Nuland and her state department colleagues found deeply upsetting.

      When the European Union pursued a diplomatic route at resolving the impasse by proposing a power sharing agreement, Nuland was quick to veto the idea, telling Pyatt in a leaked phone call, “(expletive) the EU.” During that same call, Nuland discussed her plans for the ouster of Yanukovych and the installation of opposition leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk as prime minister.

      Towards the end of their conversation, Nuland noted that Biden’s national security adviser Jake Sullivan had informed her that “you need Biden,” and she concluded by telling Pyatt that “Biden’s willing.”

      Biden was effectively appointed as the Obama administration’s point man on Ukraine in February 2014. On Feb. 22, 2014, just as Nuland had planned, Yanukovych was removed as president of Ukraine and, three days later, Yatsenyuk, the candidate favored by Nuland, was installed as prime minister.

      In other words, the U.S. government had effectively enabled a coup that ousted a democratically elected leader and replaced him with their own candidate.

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        GlenM

        A correct view of the situation with US meddling in eastern Europe. Unfortunately there is a uniform denigration of Russia in the West through the political and media milieu. Any dissent from the line that Russia unlawfully and unprovoked invaded Ukraine will not be tolerated. Any objective analysis would conclude that Russia is well within their rights to preserve their national security. A NATO fleet in Sevastopol?

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      OldOzzie

      The US Approves Long-Range Missile Strikes on Russia

      Crossing the Line Between Proxy War & Direct War

      Glenn Diesen

      The discussions about authorising long-range missile strikes on Russia are profoundly dishonest and misleading.

      The political-media elites present deeply flawed arguments to support the conclusion that attacking Russia with long-range missiles does not cross the line between proxy war and direct war.

      NATO may be successful in deluding itself, yet for Russia there is no doubt that this is an act of war.

      3) The missiles can turn the tide of the war

      The war has already been lost, and Washington previously admitted that these long-range missiles would not be a game changer. There are two reasons for escalating the war at this point, to further bleed Russia and to sabotage Trump’s objective to end the war.

      The timing of Washington’s decision is also suspicious and appears to aim at sabotaging Trump’s massive mandate to end the proxy war.

      By comparison, Obama similarly threw a wrench into US-Russia relations in late 2016 as he was handing the White House over to Trump.

      The anti-Russian sanctions and expulsion of Russian diplomats were intended to sabotage Trump’s promise to get along with Russia. Biden appears to follow the same playbook by risking a Third World War to prevent peace from breaking out in Ukraine.

      Biden was too cognitively impaired to run for re-election, yet he is supposedly mentally fit to attack Russia as he prepares to leave the White House.

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        el+gordo

        ‘Ukraine says Russia has launched an intercontinental ballistic missile targeting Dnipro city in the central-east of the country, the first time Moscow has used such a missile in the war.’ (9NEWS)

        The Americans say it wasn’t an ICBM, but they would say that, Biden is a pissant.

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          OldOzzie

          Russia has fired its new ‘Oreshnik’ hypersonic ballistic missile – Putin

          The strike was launched in response to Kiev’s use of Western-made long-range missiles, the president has said

          The Russian military has launched a state-of-the-art intermediate-range ballistic missile against a Ukrainian target, President Vladimir Putin said in a public address on Thursday.

          As part of what the president called a “combat test,” the hypersonic missile, dubbed ‘Oreshnik’ (‘Hazel’), successfully struck a military industrial facility in the Ukrainian city of Dnepropetrovsk (known as Dnipro in Ukraine), Putin added.

          The strike was a response to Ukrainian attacks on military facilities located on internationally recognized Russian territory, the president stated. Kiev’s forces launched the strikes on Tuesday and Thursday, using US-made ATACMS and HIMARS systems as well as British-made Storm Shadow missiles, he said.

          The president also vowed to publicly announce any future strikes against the Ukrainian targets involving the ‘Oreshnik’ system “for humanitarian reasons” to let civilians leave a potentially dangerous zone. The announcements would not affect the effectiveness of the strikes, he added. A ballistic missile travelling at between 2.5 and 3 kilometers per second, or 10 times faster than the speed of sound, cannot be countered with any existing air defense systems, Putin said.

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            OldOzzie

            Russia Notifies US Before Test Fire

            According to multiple sources, Russia informed the United States of an incoming ballistic missile strike on Ukraine shortly before the attack on November 21, 2024.

            A US administration official confirmed that the US was “pre-notified briefly before the launch” and that the US also briefed Ukraine and other allies in the days leading up to the attack about Russia’s possible use of an experimental medium-range ballistic missile.

            Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov later stated that Russia had no obligation to notify the US about intermediate-range missiles, as there is no such agreement in place.

            However, the US official emphasized that Russia and the US typically inform each other if they plan to launch ballistic missiles.

            In a televised address, Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed that Russia used a new intermediate-range ballistic missile, dubbed “Oreshnik”, in the attack on Dnipro, Ukraine. Putin described the test as “successful” and stated that the missile was equipped with non-nuclear hypersonic equipment.

            It is worth noting that Ukraine initially accused Russia of launching an intercontinental ballistic missile, but Western officials disputed this claim, suggesting that an intermediate-range missile was used instead. The exact type of missile remains unclear, and experts are still analyzing the details of the attack.

            In summary, Russia did notify Washington before firing the ballistic missile, albeit with some ambiguity surrounding the scope of the notification and the type of missile used.

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              el+gordo

              Thanks for that, clears the fog.

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              Chad

              I do not understand why either side keeps advertising what military equipment, weapons, etc, etc, they are going to use next ?
              If they just kept quiet and got on with the dammed war, it might be over sooner !

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                el+gordo

                The military industrial complexes are hard at work testing weapons.

                The Russians put six of their latest state of the art tanks onto the battlefield and they didn’t fair too well against cheap drones.

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                Yarpos

                One reason is that one side minimises unecessary civilian casualties, and one side has weapons that, for the moment , cant be defended against anyway.

                This conflict has its roots in prolonged attacks on civilian populations.

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                mawm

                Chad – I think in the case of a ballistic missile it is to prevent a rain of minutemen being launched at Russia.

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                Tel

                The only thing both sides agree on is making sure they kill a lot more Ukrainians. Sad, but that’s where we are at.

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                Yarpos

                If they can get one to lauch mawm. Recent tests suggests generating a rain might be optimistic. I’d suggest the American can tell the diff between a medium range missile and anything that was a threat to them. But maybe I am being optimistic also.

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        KP

        “There are two reasons for escalating the war at this point, to further bleed Russia and to sabotage Trump’s objective to end the war.”

        Trump’s team could relay the positions of all the American ‘advisors’ in Ukraine to Russia, or when a shipment of missiles is arriving, or when some big-name is visiting Kiev.. War within politics is not just a one-way street.

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    One of the most infamous days in modern history took place 61 years ago this Friday.

    “On 22 November 1963, two bullets hit US President John F Kennedy in the head and throat. He died 35 minutes later. The prime suspect was 24-year-old Lee Harvey Oswald, who was arrested within hours of the shooting but was murdered two days later. Speculation over Kennedy’s death began almost immediately after the gunshots rang out – and it hasn’t stopped since. That said, there is one thing most people are certain of: where they were when they first heard the shocking news.”

    President Elect Donald Trump had better watch out. I hope that he has the best security in the World. His own.

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      RickWill

      I remember it because on the Saturday morning that we got the news our family car was rammed by my oldest sister’s ex boyfriend who she had worked out was not a nice guy.

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      That said, there is one thing most people are certain of: where they were when they first heard the shocking news.”

      As the news rolled across the World as it happened, there I was as a twelve year old on that SATURDAY morning, at the Queens Park Tennis complex in Southport Queensland, on the centre court with my Doubles partner Lenore Stewart, along with forty other Junior Tennis players playing for our team in Junior Club Tennis. Mr Flaxman, the Junior Tennis Coach walked from his small office atop the grandstand adjoining that centre court and in a loud voice told all of us all within earshot to stop playing. We did just that, and turned and looked up at him. In a solemn voice, he told us that President Kennedy had just been a$$a$$in@ted.

      As 12 year old children, all of us were just so totally shocked, and as we looked at each other in our grief, we all asked ….. Who’s President Kennedy?

      Every time I tell that story, it gets me into trouble. People call me out for that mendacity, full in the knowledge that it happened mid afternoon on the FRIDAY.

      Then I have to carefully explain to them the time difference between Dallas Texas and Southport Queensland.

      Tony.

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      GlenM

      I recall as an 8 year old in David Jones Parramatta the news of JFK’s assassination. The whole store looked stunned.

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      Earl

      8yr old playing in the backyard when Mum came out on the verandah and called me in. Thought I was being called for lunch but as I ran up the stairs to the verandah realised Mum was crying. All she initially said was “They have killed him” we then walked in together to the wireless and listened to the BBC World service reports. The magic of Camelot USA and persona of the “royal” Kennedy held so much hope even in NZ.

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        John in NZ

        Interesting she said “They have killed him” rather than “He has killed him”.

        I was only three years old so I never knew about it until much later.

        For most of my life I believed JFK was killed by a lone gunman. Now, I believe something else.

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          Earl

          Indeed. Years later on reflection think it was an over-hang of the Cuban Missile Crisis and that “they” got him being the Russians or Cubans. Cheers.

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      It was the day after my 11th Birthday. Can’t remember what I was doing and I was living in England at the time. Seem to remember watching some of the shooting on the evening news around 6.00 pm when I was at home after a day at school.

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      Vladimir

      I clearly remember the moment Moscow Radio announced the event, the reason being was its unusually somber, nearly sympathetic tone. We used to much harsher description of Americans, I dare say – the lot of them, Cuban crisis happened only 2 years before.

      It took me another 10 years to learn that LHO was double traitor who spent couple of years at a Minsk factory floor, married Marina, changed his mind again.., that I guess was the real reason for the Soviet moot reaction – they were bomb-shelled themselves…

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      Strop

      I heard about it in the 70’s. Don’t recall what I was doing or where I was, but I assume watching some history show on TV in the family home. 😉

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    YYY Guy

    Heard a bit on the wireless yesterday about the jobs of the future in O. Perfesser of something. Jobs in quantum computing (doesn’t exist yet), AI (use of, not the programming) and health care (NDIS) and other fantasies. Pretty optimistic considering the NAPLAN results. I tried to find the related article but couldn’t. Anyway, someone predicts
    Good job food grows itself, no one needs to work in the outback digging stuff up and everything in the supermarket finds it’ way there by magic.

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      They should also have listed ‘Freelance Rodent Operative’ – A Rat Catcher – They will still need them along with Farmers, Oil/Gas Drillers, Nuclear Power Engineers, Firing Squad Operatives (for the ‘Pollies’) and many many others.

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        Greg in NZ

        Instead of FSOs, this cynic would much prefer applying thumb-screws or the rack, allowing all guilty parties time to consider their disciplinary detention… drawn-out for as long as possible, with the odd application of numerous novel and experimental jabs in various parts of their tormented bodies – for their own good and that of the nation, of course.

        Medieval Spanish ‘clergy’ knew a thing or two about saving sinners’ souls… ooh and maybe hot pokers too while listening to the groans from the Iron Maiden slamming shut in a room nextdoor.

        /saintly

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      Graeme4

      Not many jobs for folks to train these people. I’m presuming that all training will be self-taught, online? And using AI to create the online courses?

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      KP

      Yeah right… How good was their list back in 1980??

      Probably included “flying car mechanics” by the end of the 20th century, “Astro engineers for the Moon base” and absolutely nothing about mobile phones or the internet.

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    another ian

    FWIW – more covid questions

    “Safety Last”

    “Maybe further investigation will be forthcoming, but I’m not holding my breath.”

    Researchers from The Netherlands analysed data from 47 Western countries and discovered there had been more than three million excess deaths since 2020, with the trend continuing despite the rollout of vaccines and containment measures.

    They said the “unprecedented” figures “raised serious concerns” and called on governments to fully investigate the underlying causes, including possible vaccine harms.

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2024/11/21/safety-last/

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    another ian

    FWIW – Canada

    It seemed a good idea at the time

    “The Part I Like Best

    About marijuana legalization is how the tax revenue windfall is bettering all of our lives.

    The Canada Revenue Agency has begun writing off millions in tax owed by bankrupt marijuana dealers. Unpaid excise taxes overall are more than a quarter billion since Parliament legalized cannabis: ‘66% of licensees have an outstanding tax debt.’”

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2024/11/21/the-part-i-like-best-24/

    More of “The budget balancing itself”?

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    another ian

    Text from a cartoon (no link)

    “Drinking cows milk is unnatural for humans!”

    “So instead of pulling down on some teats we’re going to automate an
    industrial almond milk production line to soak a boat load of imported
    almonds in water, pulverize them into a paste, filter them through a
    fine mesh, add sweeteners, oils, emulsifiers, and flavors to replicate
    cows milk – blend the mixture, homogenize & degas it, then
    pasteurize & sterilize it.”

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    Greg in NZ

    Beware the Ministry of Tooth!

    She who claimed to be the ‘sole arbiter of truth’ during her 1pm televised pronouncements during the Crock-19 lockup-phase at the beginning of this decade, is to be rewarded today in Noo Yoik Sh!tty with a *Champion For Global Change Award*.

    *keep a bucket, and a pinch of salt, handy*

    She who identifies as an ex-PM of New Zealand (who was going to ‘raise all children out of povverdee’) is to be honoured for (cough!) ‘trailblazing empathetic leadership, commitment to the rights of women, combating climate change [sic] and fostering unity and peace’. Sick/psyche/suck.

    Perhaps her mental midget mentor, Ant Guterres, is anointing her for the upcoming role as Queen of the UN’s new western order – ‘un’ being a prefix to negate, separate, or reverse, as she brought only division & anger via her totalitarian edicts, and as for combating the imaginary bogeyman, she relied on her twin-clone Justin Te D’oh to fly her everywhere on his personal polluting ‘private’ jet.

    Something stinks in NYC and, yes, it is the trash.

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    Neville

    Here’s the latest talk by Dr John Christy and he proves through data that we don’t have a climate crisis, just more of the same compared to a 100 or more years ago.
    And places like Alabama show some cooling. UAH is still the best satellite data and even NOAA shows about the same in their latest measurements.
    RSS is just an outlier because they use poor/old satellite data.
    John uses many graphs to prove his case and their combined studies now show about 1.6 c to 1.8 c for a doubling of co2. Thats about 560 ppm and much later in the century.
    This 50 minute talk finishes in Oct 2024 and covers a lot and Tom Nelson’s Q & A with John at the end is also very interesting.
    Again it’s wonderful to listen to sane scientists who rely on observations and data.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwYVyU_q9Uo&list=PL89cj_OtPeenLkWMmdwcT8Dt0DGMb8RGR&index=1

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    YYY Guy

    What have my old regulators been up to since they banned me from working for refusing the not-a-vaccine? The Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency have been hard at work encouraging complaints, just have a scroll down
    Some of the best quotes from within various sections –

    This is the first time the number of registered practitioners has exceeded 900,000, and 96.9 per cent of these practitioners hold practising registration.

    so, 27,900 are doing what?

    Ahpra continues to work hard to get more international practitioners registered faster and safely by implementing changes in response to the Kruk review. Improvements to Ahpra’s registration processes have almost halved the time to finalise international applications, cutting the previous 60-day average to just 33 days.

    Ensuring we don’t get anyone with dubious qualifications. Like this chap

    Yay, let’s ban GPs for telling the truth I like this line –

    The GP also made comments about Ahpra, including “Ahpra is a Gestapo”.

    Gestapo leader stepping down –

    Ahpra CEO Martin Fletcher, who has announced his intention to step down after 15 years leading the national health regulator, praised staff and members of the National Boards for their continued efforts to keep Australia’s healthcare system safe.

    Having implemented the NWO agenda.

    The last time I was allowed to work I shared an office with 4 uni graduates who were learning that, in the real world, real people don’t do what’s in the best interests of their health. It’s a rude awakening for graduates who seem to apply for promotion to non-clinical positions at the first opportunity.

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      KP

      “as he claimed Medicare benefits for several consultations with the patient at his practice, during which time he had engaged in physical intimacy and sexual intercourse with his patient.”

      Why not claim it on Medicare, he probably did her a power of good! She went back again for more until it all fell apart..

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Russia Did Not Fire an ICBM Today, They Fired Something Much Worse – A Message
    November 21, 2024 | Sundance | 90 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/11/21/russia-did-not-fire-an-icbm-today-they-fired-something-much-worse-a-message/

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      Hanrahan

      Note that it didn’t hit Kiev which is defended by a Patriot battery.

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        KP

        “Note that it didn’t hit Kiev which is defended by a Patriot battery.”

        You sure its still there? The Russians have blown up a few of those without a problem. Another wonder-waffen that wasn’t.

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      el+gordo

      Testing a hypersonic missile under battle conditions, worked quite nicely with multiple warheads. Ukraine (with the help of US satellite) tracked the missile from the get go and realised they had nothing to stop it.

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      From your link:
      ” The baseline for the continued need to avoid any cessation of hostilities in Ukraine, is financial. Blackrock and JPMorgan have exclusive rights to the “rebuilding” of Ukraine, with access to all the resources therein. {Link} Thus, there is an alignment of interests between Blackrock, JPMorgan, NATO the U.S. State Dept. and the internal operatives of the Biden administration. “

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      RickWill

      Trump’s win is nothing short of the fear of God for the war mongers in the west.

      Where is the UN in this conflict. The morons there are at COP29 trying to squeeze an income stream from anyone with money rather than working to de-esculate the Ukrainian war.

      The articles notes that Putin advised the USA what he was going to do. That would have enabled them to prepare their air defence, which proved ineffective at hitting something travelling at mach 10.
      https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3287616/russia-has-tested-new-intermediate-range-missile-strike-ukraine-putin-says

      In a televised address to the country, the Russian president warned that US air defence systems would be powerless to stop the new missile, which he said flies at Mach 10 and which he called the Oreshnik – Russian for hazelnut tree. He also said it could be used to attack any Ukrainian ally whose missiles are used to attack Russia.

      Oreshnik translates to haze. You do not see it coming because it is a blur or haze.

      Basically Europe has been warned and the US has nothing on offer to prevent air strikes if Putin decides he wants to escalate..

      It shows that the people voting for Harris were voting for WW3. Biden and Starmer are the war mongers.

      Good luck to all of Europe if they think Trump will come to their aid after Biden and Starmer start a conflict with Europe and Russia. UK has started a program for supersonic missiles. So Putin has his window.

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        GlenM

        From a country with form in invading other countries whenever it feels like it. WMD’s, “Shock and awe” and “Mission accomplished” are just a few of their by words. Plain history for all to see.

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        el+gordo

        Nobody wants WW3, that is simply not rational.

        There is a general argument that a European representative make up a foursome when Trump sits down in peace talks. It seems reasonable, otherwise Putin and Trump will try and steamroll Zelensky to make a trade.

        Is Russia prepared to give up Crimea or the Donbas for the Kurst region?

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          KP

          “Is Russia prepared to give up Crimea or the Donbas for the Kurst region?”

          No negotiations will take place until the Kursk border is back where it was, and Ukraine will have no decent troops left by then.

          Why should Putin stop at all? He can grind all the way to the Dnipro River and take Dnipro itself and there is no-one to stop him.

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            Chad

            Why should Putin stop at all? He can grind all the way to the Dnipro River and take Dnipro itself and there is no-one to stop him.

            ?…NATO..!

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    Heat pumps.
    Ground source heat pumps.
    Here – a problem – maybe linked . . .

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jrywx6k05o

    Explosion, killing two, after a drilled ground source heat pump reportedly drilled into underground ‘gas’ …
    Unresolved, so not clear if there is linkage.
    But, perhaps, a heads-up.

    Auto

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    Neville

    I’ll try again to highlight what Roger Pielke said in his quick intro to Chris Wright’s video.
    I’ll just look at one statement he made about how many Nuclear plants would have to be built to replace FFs by 2050.
    His answer is starting now one new nuclear power plant DER DAY has to be built by 2050 and FFs would also have to be retired at the same rate around the world.
    Does anyone think this is remotely possible and at what cost?
    See from about 6.45 mins on the Liberty video.
    Yet we have lefty loonies in Australia who BELIEVE that we can replace FFs with their unreliable toxic W & S fantasies.
    This is just laughable lunacy and yet nobody understands.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/11/20/there-is-a-design-problem-in-climate-policy-featuring-dr-roger-pielke-jr-chris-wright-liberty-2/

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      Graeme4

      I think another telling point from the video was the sudden drop in CO2 levels required to achieve Net Zero by 2050 – the slope was a lot steeper than the slow rise through the years.

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        Neville

        Thanks John H and I was trying to find that excellent post from Willis Eschenbach, but don’t forget we’ll also need to double that energy requirement again by 2050 according to Mark Mill’s group because of AI + a higher population and many more billions in developing countries demanding more and more energy by 2050.
        This really is believing in Unicorns, fairies and every other fantasy in the con artist’s hand book. But lefty loonies and their so called scientists just love to believe in BS and fra-d.

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          Memo to Blackout Bowen.

          What you are doing to ‘power’ Australia to be a ‘Ruin a Ball’ Super Power won’t work. the only bit that will work is the word ‘Ruin’.

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      And I have just watched the entire video. Towards the end he stated that if you want to wean a country off of Coal Fired Power Stations then put a Nuclear Power Plant there once you have retired the Coal plant. This is just what Dutton has been saying for Australia. Just do it one at a time and not all at once. Simple.

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        Graeme4

        I think there is some confusion regarding the size of these nuclear plants that Dutton is proposing. Some say they are only SMR, others say large-scale Gen IV. I presume that SMRs would require less regulation and be quicker to construct.

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        GlenM

        All remaining Coal generators must be kept going and further plans to build next generation plants. The only country on the planet that derives the majority of its power from nuclear is France. It’s a big ask to build so many nuclear facilities within an effective time frame.

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          Graeme4

          Nuclear is the second largest contributor to U.S. power at 19%, and likely to increase that percentage as more coal power stations are shutdown.

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    John Connor II

    Worshippers divulging sins to AI Jesus say they had ‘spiritual experience’ after church installs robot confession booth

    Dubbed “God in a Machine”, those in Switzerland can speak directly to Jesus – or an AI version – and receive formulated answers.

    Visitors to the dystopian bot sit in a confessional booth where a screen showing Jesus’ face can be seen through the grate.

    Upon entering, the visitor is greeted by AI Jesus reciting the message: “Do not disclose personal information under any circumstances, use this service at your own risk, press the button if you accept.”

    AI Jesus even has the ability to speak a whopping 100 languages to accommodate Lucerne’s tourists.

    And it was recorded that at least two-thirds of people who spoke to AI Jesus came out of the bizarre confessional having had a “spiritual” experience.

    https://www.the-sun.com/tech/12934215/worshippers-sins-ai-jesus-spiritual-experience/

    The invisible sky creature has gone digital now.
    Will believers have to pay in Bitcoin to go to digital heaven?
    Oh, the nonsense some believe in.

    “It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion,
    however satisfying & reassuring.”
    – Carl Sagan

    It baffles me why an omnipotent creator would create an entire galaxy for his chosen children to inhabit only 0.000000000000000000015% of it’s area, for only 0.00004% of it’s history…

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    John Connor II

    Friday CCCP hilarity

    https://youtu.be/3YAZGVLt5eY?si=Gf55dn7EkCgiF0Va

    Can the CCP do anything properly? 😆

    The Zhuhai airshow with a plane flying a gently waving flag.
    Oh such amazing formation flying.
    The flyboys here will laugh at this…

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    John Connor II

    RFK Jr Vows To Overhaul ‘Dangerous’ 5G Regulations Citing ‘Serious Health Risks’

    Citing a wealth of scientific studies and his own legal victories, Kennedy argues that the unchecked expansion of 5G technology poses significant public health risks, including the disruption of the blood-brain barrier and an alarming rise in glioblastomas and other cancers.

    “My concern about 5G is that the RF radiation from 5G is dangerous,” explained RFK. “It disrupts the blood-brain barrier and is associated with glioblastomas and other cancers. It also causes a host of other significant health effects.

    “There are literally thousands of studies supporting this. I’ve litigated this issue and won in the federal court of appeals. So, you can call it a conspiracy theory, but the federal court of appeals [disagrees].”

    Kennedy explained he was called a “conspiracy theorist” when he went after Monsanto until he won the case and the mainstream media had to admit he was right.

    https://twitter.com/myhiddenvalue/status/1859216241057202404

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    Nine years ago, Meersheimer’s account, relevant today. a History of the Ukraine conflict.
    Russia, like America has its own Monroe Doctrine, buffer states matter! They are of core strategic interest.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

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    Neville

    Something different to think about.
    Robert Wadlow was the tallest man in history and was nearly 9 foot tall before he died.
    That gland in the brain can be operated on today but not 80 years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTFIne7N9ns

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    Neville

    Again if Prof Pielke jr is correct the world would have to build about 9500 more Nuclear plants by 2050 and retire that many FF plants as well.
    The problem is we would still need FFs to make the majority of things we use and need in our modern world today.
    Just look around your room or your house or your town or suburb or city and think or learn to think, duh?

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      Dave in the States

      It won’t make nickel’s worth of difference either way to climate. But will make a considerable difference to your grandchildren’s standard of living and their freedom.

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    Neville

    More proof they are telling us blatant lies about their so called net zero BS and fra-d.
    Lomborg supplied a peer reviewed study in 2015 that showed full compliance by Paris Cop 21 countries would only reduce temperature by 0.05 c by 2100.
    IOW no measurable difference at all and this delusional lunacy would waste tens of trillions of $ for SFA change.
    And he used the same software to estimate the change in temp as used by the IPCC etc.
    Yet our lefty loonies still BELIEVE? And Lomborg had an expert team that included a number of genuine Nobel laureates + other mathematicians, economists etc.

    https://lomborg.com/paris-climate-promises-will-reduce-temperatures-just-005degc-2100-press-release

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      Graeme4

      Lomborg does an excellent job of backing up his statements with plenty of references to solid engineering papers. But the left still criticise him.

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        GlenM

        Well Lomborg always has to point out that he believes in CO2 (human) induced warming. Hardly an article or interview goes by without him not referring to it. A queer sort of chap.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      Simply calling it all ‘wasted money’ is legit, but my blood boils when I think about the opportunity cost. Just imagine the other, better ways all that money could have been spent 🙁

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    RickWill

    Victoria has realised that the feds are not going to give them money for wind farms so are pushing their household solar. And and smart investor would be giving grid scale wind and solar a wide berth.

    I get more than weekly calls from unsolicited purveyors of solar and associated stuff. Today I asked the caller where they got all my information. They said from my electricity supplier. But it is all OK because my data is in safe keeping in their company and they are a “partner” with the government.

    Now I thought my data was safe with my electricity provider. And I have never given them permission to pass it on to any third party!

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      Steve of Cornubia

      “Now I thought my data was safe with my electricity provider. And I have never given them permission to pass it on to any third party!”

      You probably have by accepting their 50 page T&Cs. It will be buried in there somewhere. If they have an app, it will be in there, too.

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    RickWill

    A question for Vladimir – what is your take in the Ukraine war?

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    John Connor II

    Climate doom! Hundreds of Antarctic scientists call for urgent action over 1 in 7.5 million years event

    https://youtu.be/IbgsmEJRWWg?si=YSPyNF5YOKW5LXZ8

    /defund the ABC and end the Antarctic booze junkets.

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    David of Cooyal in Oz

    Evening all,
    A new one from Dr John Campbell, 25 mins.

    At the start he examines some UK stroke statistics, and questions some omissions. He then goes on to discuss the pathology of strokes in some detail. I found the whole interesting, but the second part heavy going.
    But the comments below it are fascinating in the number of people with personal and/or close knowledge of stroke patients and their exposure to the safe and effective treatment they’d been given earlier.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZfMaDYuGHE

    Educational, but not cheerful.

    Dave B

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Feeling good 🙂

    Mrs Wife just got the results of her latest cancer marker (blood test) and, while it has been increasing lately, this time it was essentially stable (from 33 to 35). She’s been taking 12mg of Ivermectin for one month.

    I think that calls for a Pinot Gris or three while I make dinner. So happy!

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      Peter C

      Thanks for your case report.
      It is difficult to get any info about results.
      Dr William Malik calls for a higher dose of Ivermectiin (ie 1mg/kg), which sounds like a lot, combined with fenbendazole.

      I have a friend with stage 4 breast cancer to her bones. She has been taking 24mg Ivermectin and 440mg Fendendazole 6 days every week for past 5 months. Her condition is mostly static with improvement of several metastasis and worsening of one other but I still think it is a remarkable result. She declined chemo because all the other women feel so sick when they are on it. So far so good and she feels very well.

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        David of Cooyal in Oz

        How’s her vitamin D blood level?
        One of the observations that sent me down the vitamin D path was that both the early anti-COVID protocols, one based on HCQ and the other on IVM, each included vitamin D.
        Best wishes,
        Dave B

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          Steve of Cornubia

          I don’t know. I keep asking her to get it tested but with so many appointments, blood tests and scans all the time, we keep forgetting. However, she’s taking 5000iu daily, plus K2, so I’d be surprised if she was low. She does need to get it tested though.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    Things that get invented

    https://x.com/h_eecham/status/1834209395103666620

    Via SDA

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      Graeme4

      Coming off a longish bike ride this morning, and not wearing padded pants, this looks a good idea. But perhaps more mechanical things to go wrong? Must buy some padded pants…
      Also must remember to stay away from cafes close to an international cricket match in the morning…

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    Saighdear

    Well, we’re told you wanted it …. ( ie all the toys n gizmos) Monetizing the software-defined vehicle ( ie your new Cars ) Fri, 22 Nov 16:00 – 17:00 GMT Online FREE!
    Monetizing, eh. We had adverts on your boiled eggs, once upon a time ( after we found we could print the / a DATE on them beside the Lion.
    “As the shift towards the software-defined vehicle (SDV) gathers pace and customers re-evaluate their driving experience expectations, new revenue opportunities are arising outside the traditional vehicle sales model. Competition for these new digital revenue pools is fierce, so a comprehensive and effective monetization strategy is essential…”
    Register for a free webinair https://events.teams.microsoft.com/event/9b2735d6-1da5-474d-9c54-ff3904577b82@38a07968-cb20-4340-857b-a040b3663844?mc_cid=cd835215a0
    So maybe ENJOY or Steam on ( just don’t get triggered like me on such things. ? the germans at it again, by the lookof it ??

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    another ian

    Mods – you better check this one – it could ignite “A Bonfire of the Vanities”

    FWIW

    “The Truth About Iberra, Laken, Ukraine and More”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=252371

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      Saighdear

      Phew! yes, I skirt around that one sometimes.
      but what does Laken mean? I cannot get the context right.
      Interesting Link

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      Hanrahan

      I’ve always wondered what was wrong with the White Australia Policy and on a different topic, McCarthy.

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        KP

        ..and Enoch Powell, he realised this back in the 60s.

        I’m not a racist, but I’m definitely a culturist. I don’t care what race you are, so long as you behave like a white man. Its been obvious for decades that the West places far too high a value on living forever, hence the amount of money poured into healthcare, especially at the end of life.

        Maybe its the Judeo-Christian beliefs that do it, everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die. Other cultures just don’t care that much. Anyway, it is far too late to fight back now, we are swamped by those let in by our politicians to destroy us.

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        another ian

        FWIW

        “Who said the following?

        Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave.

        Donald Trump? Stephen Miller? Incoming “border czar” Tom Homan?

        No—civil rights icon Barbara Jordan in 1995.”

        More at

        https://instapundit.com/686161/#disqus_thread

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    Graeme4

    The MAD bill has failed in parliament! Yes!!

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      Graeme4

      Sorry, meant the Misinformation Bill. Interesting that Trump’s crew have already criticised it.

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        TdeF

        Australia is getting a name for extreme left behaviour. Some of the laws Albanese is trying to pass are incredible. As if the YES referendum was not enough. Can we just call President Xi and ask him to take over seems to be the general direction. However at least we have not said we would arrest Netanyahu, unlike Justin Trudeau. At least Albanese is an avowed communist. Trudeau appears to be just a dill.

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    Forrest Gardener

    If ever there were employees who could be profitably replaced by AI my vote would be for centrelink droids.

    C: your complaint says that our letter didn’t identify the position of the person you were supposed to contact
    Me: Ok
    C: I just told you what my position was
    Me: Ok
    C: so I’ve just resolved your complaint. I’ll mark it resolved.
    Me: Telling me now does not fix the omission in the letter
    C: I don’t understand
    Me: I know
    C: Anyway your complaint says that centrelink made an obvious error which took 6 months to fix
    Me: Ok
    C: But the error has been fixed now so I’ll mark your complaint as resolved.
    Me Fixing the problem now does not affect my complaint that it took 6 months to fix
    C: I don’t understand
    Me: I know
    C: You are very rude. I don’t like the way you are speaking to me.
    Me: Centrelink has just put me through 6 months of hell to get an obvious error fixed. I’d like answers to my questions.
    C: I’m going to terminate the call now.
    Click.

    Are they specially chosen, born that way, on special dietary supplements, or do they get extensive training?

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      another ian

      Re “Are they specially chosen, born that way, on special dietary supplements, or do they get extensive training?”

      You could try the soothing balm of multiple “and”s” there

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      KP

      Lol! That is classic, and typical!

      I was button-holed by a young lady in the mall, begging for the Cancer whatever organisation. I asked her why we should cure cancer, and she said it was a disease that caused a lot of suffering for the victims. So I said “So does the cancer therapy industry, so why not kill them more quickly”.

      She looked shocked, and then had a very slick line to end the conversation and get away from me.. When I was leaving she wouldn’t talk to me at all. They must have finely-honed training to handle the public while guilt-fleecing them.

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      Gary S

      F.G., the experience that you describe has been the bane of my existence since the Great China Plague. In the intervening years, I have had to deal with the death of my brother and the subsequent eighteen months of dealing with the drones from banks, telco’s, superannuation funds, insurance companies,Centrelink, ad nauseam. What we now seem to have in this country is an epidemic of incompetence. It is like a kakistocracy on every imaginable level, where the incompetent rise to the highest positions only because the remainder are even MORE useless.
      I cannot begin to recount the email duels I have engaged in with utterly hopeless employees of even more hopeless corporations and government departments, where their reply to my concerns has been the platitudinous cut and paste directly from their respective websites.
      Customer service is a totally foreign concept and I am more convinced than ever that the cultural pinnacle achieved by this country around the early 1970’s will never be attained again.

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        Forrest Gardener

        My commiserations Gary.

        I am currently probing for an effective way to penetrate centrelink incompetence, misfeasance and outright nonfeasance.

        What was effective in this case was referral to the ombudsman. It took a while but two days after the ombudsman referred my case back to centrelink they appointed an ARO who saw and rectified the obvious error.

        Perhaps predictably that correction of the obvious error by the ARO has triggered two new obvious errors by centrelink. I am toying with the idea of creating an automated system for guiding people in effective procedural steps to metaphorically battle against star wars death stars. Perhaps I have a role for what is mistakenly referred to as AI.

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      MeAgain

      When you see a sign saying ‘our people will not tolerate abuse’ you can always be pretty sure that you are going to be treated with passive aggression. The price of fuel isn’t nice, but they don’t tend to hand these signs in servos…

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        Forrest Gardener

        Agreed. Non tolerance of abuse is reasonable as a shield. Unfortunately, that idea has morphed into a weapon in the hands of the bureaucracy.

        Which bureaucracy? Every damned bureacracy!

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    another ian

    FWIW

    Riddle me this?

    “UK And Moldova Sign Defence Pact To Counter ‘Russian Aggression'”

    https://www.barrons.com/news/uk-and-moldova-sign-defence-pact-to-counter-russian-aggression-fc9d098e

    But back in the real world –

    Putin drops a new hypersonic multi and

    “UK ministers scrap warships, helicopters, and drones in £500m defence cuts”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-scrap-warships-helicopters-drones-john-healey-b2651002.html

    Break out the WW2 reserve of bayonets on broomsticks?

    So this to a fellow blogger who is an “amateur semi-pro grade” blacksmith

    “You might get a job here – sword maker

    You might think Wilkinson’s would be the front runner. But UK now only does electric arc s h i t grade steel so their long term supplier is probably neutered.”

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      another ian

      But, on reflection,

      I am reminded that, just prior to WW2, the French had the best heavy tank available at that time and ordered another 30,00 cavalry horses instead

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      KP

      “”Moldova is a vital security partner for the UK, which is why to reinforce their resilience against Russian aggression and to keep British streets safe, I am deepening cooperation on irregular migration and launching a new defence and security partnership,” ”

      What meaningless tripe! Is he going to send the British Army to defend Moldova if the Russians attack? Not a chance, they haven’t sent the Tommys into Ukraine, so they will never send them to Moldova! Not that I can see Moldova sending troops to help Britain fight against the American occupiers in a decade either…and what the hell would Moldova have to do with illegal migration into Britain?

      The politicians know they are talking a lot rubbish, the public know they are talking a lot of rubbish, but still the gigantic charade goes on! Just look at how pathetic Britain is in its dotage and you are looking at America in a decade or two, the Empires of Ozymandias.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    Taking the mickey!

    “Draggin’ Over Dragons: Joe Rogan Shields Himself Against Joy Behar’s Fiery Flames”

    https://twitchy.com/warren-squire/2024/11/22/joe-rogan-the-view-dragons-n2404107

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