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    Not just Of interest to anyone who thinks the sun cannot control the temperature of our planet by means other than total solar irradiance reaching the surface. It is also of interest to any long term measurement affected by the pulse shape, bandwidth or frequency response of RC or any filter requiring stable capacitance values.
    The heat generated inside the earth from radioactive decay depends on nuclear decay rates being constant. Measuring things over changing solar cycles could get confused if both the measuring instrument and the heat are affected by the solar cycles.

    Published: 22 May 2020 Nature scientific reports.
    From the abstract:

    In a previously published paper by our group we reported about the observation of anomalies in measured radioactive decay rates and capacitance measurements inside a modified Faraday cage (MFC)1.

    Also

    We found significant changes in the low-pass filter time constant and in the stability of the capacitances’ values.

    The need for further is:

    Since this apparent variation refers to changes in dielectric polarizability, it is necessary to further analyze this aspect.

    As usual it may be ignored as too small to matter especially if it is not.
    I may be slow to reply. Don’t know much more anyway. Lance Pidgeon.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-64497-0

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      Earl

      …observation of anomalies in measured radioactive decay rates

      So could those anomalies stretch to also affecting carbon decay rates as in what was 65,000 or 250,000+ BC years might only be say 4-6000? Asking for a friend.

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      Graeme No.3

      There is a side influence (minor) but the Man Made reduction in (real smoke particles) pollution in the northern hemisphere in the 1970’s to 1980’s may have allowed extra heat (from the sun) to penetrate to the ground, causing an apparent temperature rise – which could be blamed on CO2.
      Might be able to see the effect comparing North vs South.
      Volcanos obviously reverse that effect.

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    tonyb

    Unfortunately the many on this blog who have ordered an electic car will be disappointed that Fiat have curtailed production of the 500 for a month due to lack of demand

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-13847191/Fiat-pauses-production-electric-500-city-car-ONE-MONTH-slump-demand-EVs.html

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      RickWill

      The Fiat 500E sells for AUD50k. Chinese makes of similar size and performance sell for around $37k.

      I figure a similar situation in Europe until higher tariffs have an impact.

      You can get a Corolla Hybrid for AUD40k if you are not into self-immolation.

      An interesting aside is that BMW will partner GWM to make the new Mini EV in China.

      I expect you will find lots of European manufacturers shifting production to China or even rebadging Chinese brands.

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      Ronin

      Dang, I really wanted one of those.

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    tonyb

    Pictures of the unexpected snow in Europe is shown here. It will likely warm up quite a bit in the next few days.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/shock-system-europe-hammered-cold-blast-snow

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      David Maddison

      It might surprise the Left to know that outside of woke Western cultures, other people in the world believe that gender is fixed and immutable, outside of a few cultic practices.

      Matt Walsh asked some Maasai tribesmen what they thought (2 mins):

      https://youtu.be/6yAnHFj4IK0

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        Skepticynic

        >…asked some Maasai tribesmen

        That was unfair.

        Of course they are going to know perfectly well the difference between a man and a woman!

        They haven’t been to university, so how could you expect them to have learned to be ignorant and stupid about simple and blatantly obvious facts.

        Facts which the tertiary-educated knew perfectly well in kindergarten, but have been brainwashed into disbelieving.

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    Honk R Smith

    I’m looking forward to our bright 2025 future of two week curve flattenings.

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    I have combined a lot of my Maine offshore wind research into a report:
    “Maine’s Massive Floating Wind Folly”
    http://www.cfact.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Maines-massive-floating-wind-folly.pdf

    A mess in progress. No site leases yet but coming soon to beat the elections as Trump has said he will (try to) stop offshore wind development. Same off Oregon.

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    David Maddison

    I am thinking of a new car.

    Naturally, EVs are out of the question.

    I would however be prepared to consider a hybrid because I don’t regard them as woke. I think they are a perfectly acceptable engineering solution, not unlike a diesel-electric locomotive, the technology of which has been with us about one hundred years, although they don’t typically use batteries for traction.

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      Dave in the States

      Does a hybrid still use an li battery?

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      DD

      It would be wise to do some research on hybrid battery life and replacement cost.
      Also, I would check to see that the car does not have a 4G module, that audio (your voice and that of your passengers) is not recorded by the voice recognition module and that your location is not recorded.
      In regard to 4G, the manufacturer will probably provide a means to opt out, but that might just refer to data privacy. Even if you opt out the 4G module might still be connecting to the mobile network and that might mean that your activity and location could be traced.

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      a happy little debunker

      I would never, ever recommend anyone buy a ‘New’ car.
      Find a ‘dumb’ car … as ‘dumb’ as you can get, for the price – manual transmission 2WD (autos, esp 4wd drive autos are prone to expensive transmission issues)- with the best mileage per litre & service history you can find.
      Pay for a pre-purchase inspection.
      Save your dollars.
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      Red flags … Mag wheels, low profile Tyres, tints, flash aftermarket trim, fluffy dice
      Green flags … stock vehicle, ABC local radio stickers.

      Cristian Bale (worth around $120 million) drives a 21 year old Toyota Tacoma.
      He can afford any car he wants … but he drives what he needs.
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      Follow his example!

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        MichaelB

        Good advice but I would add:
        Auto transmission, not manual. Modern auto transmissions have exceptionally long service life. Manual transmissions require clutch replacements typically around 100,000 km. That can be very expensive especially in FWD models.
        Having said that, not sure about the longevity of CVTs as yet…
        I would also add, avoid any European model (exceptionally costly to repair) and avoid anything made in China.

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          Dennis

          How a vehicle is driven is the most important factor and next servicing in accordance with the schedule.

          My present 4WD is a diesel with automatic transmission and has just had the 160,000 kilometre service, purchased new 2017 model Isuzu. My trade-in was a Made in India Mahindra diesel AWD SUV and I drove it just over 200,000 kilometres in 4 years. Both used for towing trailers, heavy boat and a caravan and travelling many places around Australia.

          No major repairs required but every service carried out on time.

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        Dave in the States

        Gotta love this Josei’s choice in a car. Fun stuff!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3jE76Ea4ZM

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      Steve of Cornubia

      Of course we all value different things, but for me there is one thing that isn’t optional – reliability. For that reason I rarely recommend anything other than Japanese or S. Korean cars.

      I recently swapped my 2014 X-Trail for a new Honda CR-V and I’m happy with it. Like all current cars however, it has way too many ‘driver aids’. I chose it because those aids are less intrusive than most others I tried, also the touchscreen is much easier to operate than many others and Honda have retained more ‘old style’ knobs and dials for things like heater/aircon operation. Some manufacturers have put pretty much everything on the touchscreen, making them really hard to operate on bumpy surfaces.

      The CR-V is proving to be remarkably economical for a largish SUV, too. I’m averaging 6.8L/100km for mixed urban and country trips. The deal I got included an eight year warranty (with roadside assistance) and the first five services are fixed at $199ea. Price was $43,900, base spec. I never find the extras on higher specs worth the money – bigger wheels mean tyres are more expensive, leather seats are horrible when it’s very cold or very hot and I don’t need the fairly crap, so-called ‘4WD’ on most SUVs.

      On the matter of 4WD David, many drivers are not aware that a single puncture can cost a fortune, because you should replace all four tyres at the same time. This is because a new tyre will have a larger circumference than a used one and the 4WD system can interpret this as wheel ‘slip’, juggling power delivery to compensate and thus causing wear and fault codes.

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        Yarpos

        Understand the replace 4 tyres theory but dont buy it as reality. After cars are well into the 2nd or 3rd owner how many people do you reckon do that? At a personal level I have replaced front / rear pairs on a string of Subarus going back 23 years now without issues. One 2007 was recently sold and a 2010 is still in the family. I might just be lucky I guess. I guess like all anectdotes other peole mileage may vary.

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      Ross

      If you went ahead and decided to buy a hybrid. There’s only one brand I would trust- Toyota. They’ve been doing hybrids now for the longest of any company. When’s the last time you heard of a hybrid catching fire? Don’t go near a KIA or a Nissan hybrid. Go get a Camry hybrid with all the bling.

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        Graeme No.3

        I was told that Toyota hybrids don’t use lithium batteries – haven’t checked.

        My Toyota Corolla (2018 model) sat 4 months in my garage without any attention (while I was in hositals) but started up immediately (and has continued working).

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        Skepticynic

        >…a Camry hybrid

        I was given a brand new Camry Hybrid in Townsville to cover some country miles for a week.
        It was like a racing car.
        Very fast.
        Very comfortable.
        Economical.
        Thoroughly recommend.
        (Except a look under the bonnet was intimidating.)

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      Stanley

      My Toyota RAV4 is 3.5 years old and notched up 65000 km, mainly around town. No issues thus far, with fuel consumption around 5 L/100 km. I need to do more “pulse and glide” to improve this number. I did not want an EV or a Li battery. The RAV has a Ni hydride battery with a 10 year warranty. It’s fun to drive with 2 electric motors in reserve when you need to boost the acceleration. I’d get another one, hopefully the display screen should be improved. The radar cruise control is good as long as your fat fingers don’t switch it off by mistake….makes the wife freak out.

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      Old Goat

      David,
      If you buy a hybrid you will also often get a CVT transmission to go with it . It allows two shaft inputs , one from the IC motor and one from the electric motor . I am not convinced that these transmissions will last if you do much towing . The only company who is not doing Li batteries is Honda who appear to have returned to Ni Hydride system that was in the Prius .
      The biggest cost going forward for the hybrids will be insurance and recycling if Li ion batteries are used . One of the most interesting markers at the moment is the falling price of lithium….

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    Having just completed a 300 mile plus journey by car in the UK – Motorway from Sarf Lunnon to the fastnesses of Northumberland, it occurred to me that our green blob’s efforts at control are bearing fruit.
    Much of the journey on Motorway – normal speed limit of 70mph (112kph); a lot of vehicles do a little more, perhaps 70-80mph (so to 128kph). But where there are works in progress, there is – normally, as today – a 50 mph (80kph) limit. Even if there is no work actually being done. Not a workman seen…
    But everyone – except one pickup truck (ute) – were doing about 50 mph. There are, certainly, average speed check signs.
    Yet – despite this work havibg been dragging on for months (if not years), and no actual workers, folk are now conditioned.
    Me too.
    Baaa!

    Auto

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      tonyb

      It was our turn in Devon this week to get the 5 people in the UK involved in road maintenance. I hear that next week 2 will be going to fix roads in Yorkshire, 1 will be in London and two are on holiday.

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    william x

    Imho, we can discuss, EVs, Windmills, Solar, Renewables, Global boiling, SLR… Which is good… Yet I feel we are all being sidetracked…

    We need to look at the big picture.

    The question we should ask every politician, journalist or academic in 2024… is..

    “If our country became net zero today. What would be the net effect on global temperature?”

    Ask them like I have… and you will find they can’t or won’t answer..

    That is the key.. They cannot tell you the answer.

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      The answer is zero impact. Just leave the word ‘net’ out.

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      As Viv Forbes has explained many times, Australia has always been at Net Zero.

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        a happy little debunker

        Just in case you didn’t already hate the government and their climate change loons.

        Australia has always been a Gross CO2 sink.
        It is only when people exclude the natural absorption of CO2 that any action by Australians can be justified.
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        Tim Flannery’s Climate Council explains…

        ‘Net zero emissions’ refers to achieving an overall balance between greenhouse gas emissions produced and greenhouse gas emissions taken out of the atmosphere.

        In rejecting the natural absorption of CO2 – the Australian government and advocates are pushing a falsehood about required action onto the public.

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          Chad

          In rejecting the natural absorption of CO2 – the Australian government and advocates are pushing a falsehood about required action onto the public.

          That is not just Australia’s definition,..it is the official IPCC definition of NET zero.

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      Bruce

      That is simply because the guilty bastards have ‘solutions’ (some of them of the “final” variety),in search of problems.

      As we have LONG come to expect.

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      Bruce

      That is simply because the guilty bastards have ‘solutions’ (some of them of the “final” variety),in search of problems.

      As we have LONG come to expect.

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      Yarpos

      But the important thing William is to be seen to be “doing our bit” (said while nodding earnestly)

      As Thomas Sowell said we have replaced what works with what looks good. Those people will happily destroy civilization if they think it makes them look good.

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      TdeF

      Nett zero is not science. It makes no sense at all.

      Have a look at CO2 in New Zealand.

      It is why the focus is on reducing CO2 output, because nothing has any effect on Total CO2 which is a dead straight line. Not the explosive growth of China to half the world’s CO2, half the world’s steel, the total lockdown in 2020, bushfires, volcanoes. Why is China exempt? And who makes all the windmills and solar panels and hybrid cars?

      The psychological pitch is that humans output CO2 and CO2 causes warming which will end life on earth, so we need to reduce output of CO2. But none of that is true.

      Total human output of CO2 is calculated at an all time high of 1% atmospheric CO2. And atmopsheric CO2 is only 2% of total CO2. So the entire of human output is 0.02% of total CO2.

      And the atmospheric CO2 is exchanged every ten years with ocean CO2, so the tiny 1% just goes straight in the ocean, both because CO2 is heavier than air (C+O2) and because it is emitted at sea level and because it is 30x more soluble than O2.

      Emissions have nothing to do with total CO2 . They are negligible and quickly vanish. As for total CO2, that is not controllable by humans and is a near constant year to year, pole to pole within 1%. As for trees, when CO2 goes up, tree coverage also goes up in lock step. Planting trees is absurd and does not reduce CO2. Nothing does except slow ocean surface warming. Total Co2 has a the constant atmospheric pressure of a gas 98% of which is dissolved in the oceans which cover most of the planet. This is what any physical chemist would expect. We humans burning old leaves are irrelevant. We are not in charge of the planet. Or the Great Barrier Reef.

      And all the many Australian laws like the 2011 Carbon Credits(Farming Initiative Act) which is based on zero science. As is the Safeguard Mechanism Act 2023 which brings in 35% CO2 taxes on every large company in Australia, so on everything we buy.

      Never in the history of the world have we had such killer legislation based on make believe science which is transparently not true. And these laws are fundamentally illegal as no government has the right to force people to pay anything but fines or taxes which go into General Revenue.

      Why don’t the big victims challenge these laws in the High Court?

      Even the Victorian MMBW is being taxed for sewage. Soon we will be paying 35% CO2 taxes on flushing which is really money down the toilet. For what? To stop the growth of CO2? To stop Global Warming? This is an illegal cash grab designed to impoverish Australians and enrich the climatebaggers and utterly fake and ballooning Green energy departments.

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        Stanley

        Right on! When the topic of weather / climate change comes up in the dog park I ask the brainwashed “what is the level of CO2 and what should it be to prevent climate change”. None of the true believers have any idea ( including a biochemist who thought it was 20% at present). They don’t understand what 420 ppm is so I paint a picture as follows: compare CO2 molecules in the air to a 100,000 person crowd at the MCG on GF day. CO2 represents just 42 people (2 football teams and umpires). It’s postulated by the Greek professor (hydrologist) that only 4% of CO2 is man-made, equivalent to the 2 goal umpires. Watch the true believers heads explode!

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          TdeF

          My estimate from C14 dilution by fossil fuel (Suess effect) is 3.0%. Which means only 1 person in your 100,000 person crowd is man made CO2. The other 41 have gone home.

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            Greg in NZ

            The white-lab-coat pointy-heads at NIWA who call themselves ‘expert climate scientists’ say it’s 33%. They even wrote a letter to our Deputy PM castigating him for saying what you guys up-thread said (maybe he’s a regular here at Jo’s).

            You’d think professional academics would know where to put a decimal point, yes/no?

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              TdeF

              33% means the entire 50% increase CO2 since 1750 is from burning old leaves. That’s why it is said. Clearly they believe heating the oceans does not release CO2. In fact they believe that the CO2 is increasing the CO2 in the ocean surface, which is the exact reverse of what would happen if you boil water.

              Why do they say it? Because it pays their salaries.

              Why doesn’t the extra CO2 just vanish forever. In fact it does. In 1965 the amount of C14 was doubled by bomb testing from 1 molecule per trillion to 2 molecules per trillion. And it is all gone.

              As C14 (half life 5470 years) cannot vanish in 60 years, it means all the 1965 CO2 is gone. And almost all of the CO2 since then. You can see it from the graph.

              This is not an argument of coincidence. It is a direct measurement by medical tracer of CO2.

              And if that was not enough if the CO2 in the air was 33% fossil fuel CO2, C14 should be 66% of the historic level, not 100.0%

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                TdeF

                For those who follow it, there would be another question. Why is the C14 level not the same as in 1958? 2.03% below historic?

                The reason is that total C14 was doubled in the atmosphere in 1965. But CO2 in the air is only 1/50th of that in the ocean. So it produces a long term increase of 2/50 or 4%. This has to be added to the e-kt fit which has a half life of 7 years and my rough calculation shows -3%+/-1%. So we end up back with the C14 concentration of 1900 before fossil fuels diluted the CO2 slightly.

                All this confirms what we knew, that fossil fuel CO2, all CO2 is rapidly absorbed and into the whole ocean, no ‘surface ocean’ construct required. Everything fits and now by TWO direct measurements we know there is 3% fossil fuel in the air in rapid transit into the ocean. Fossil fuel actually enters the ocean faster than all other CO2 because it starts at low altitude.

                And for NIWA in New Zealand, they should note the first person to actually measure fossil fuel CO2 was a New Zealander, Dr G. J. Fergusson who was a member of the NZ Royal Society and a full member of the British Royal Society published his findings in the British Royal Society Journal.

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              Graeme4

              There is a regular commentator at The Australia, who while calling everybody “deniers”, also claims the human CO2 amount is 33%. I believe that they “calculate“ this by taking the 270-430 ppm difference. Cannot shift him from this position, despite pointing out that even the IPCC doesn’t make that claim.

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                TdeF

                Who? I would be happy to follow up on this.

                And be aware there are serious scientists including Prof Will Happer who say that the increase is man made. It’s presented as ‘personal’ opinion and no one has any proof of such an idea, but they still say it. Dr Peter Ridd doesn’t know, but insists that he needs an explanation for the increase before he would admit that it is not man made. That’s sitting on the fence and ignoring the evidence.

                But I think they are just conceding this so they can argue that it doesn’t matter, that CO2 on the whole, even warming are both beneficial. And that the CO2 effect is saturated, Happer’s major contribution. My view is that every silly concession just empowers the lie of man made disaster.

                If someone actually had any evidence of 33% man made CO2 that would be different, but they haven’t. Everything is by ‘coincidence’, ‘correlation’, not evidence. The C13 and C14 arguments are conclusive and the two C14 arguments are indisputable, direct evidence.

                And as scores of papers give the residence time of CO2 as 10 years, you have to create a special fantasy, a ‘surface’ ocean, just to explain why any fossil fuel CO2 would hang around.

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        Doc

        ‘Why don’t the big victims challenge these laws in the High Court?’

        If Albanese gets his anti mis/disinformation Bill into legislation, I don’t see why the entire Global Warming due to [CO2]atm increase opinion
        science shouldn’t become the first matter taken to Court. There are so many mis/disinformation targets there it should keep the Courts in
        full time operation for 20years – or until the outcomes force the governments to capitulate. It would be in the interest of all companies that
        aren’t recipients of those subsidies because they and the people are the ones bearing the entire cost of living increases and costs of
        doing business increases in Australia. And they have the deepest pockets to drive the matters in Court.

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      el+gordo

      ‘They cannot tell you the answer.’

      No point in mentioning the Tonga eruption and water vapour in the stratosphere, its outside their portfolio.

      ‘NASA scientists believe that the Tonga explosion occurred at the right depth to project a lot of water into the stratosphere. The Tonga eruption is a once in 200-year event, probably less than once in a millennium. Science was very lucky. We are not so lucky.’ (Javier/wuwt)

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    RicDre

    Australia Introduces Legislation to Outlaw Disagreeing With the Government

    Essay by Eric Worrall

    As Australia approaches its next cycle of state and federal elections, the radical Aussie Federal Government is pushing laws which could silence media criticism of their key policy positions.

    Attack on our freedoms’: Government’s revised online misinformation bill slammed as ‘chilling assault’ on free speech

    Labor’s new online misinformation bill has been slammed as a “chilling assault” on freedom of speech, with critics claiming the government’s definition of “serious harm” could capture “any difference of opinion”.

    Patrick Hannaford Digital Reporter
    4 min read
    September 12, 2024 – 5:00PM

    Communications Minister Michelle Rowland introduced the legislation to Parliament on Thursday, claiming misinformation and disinformation pose a “serious threat” to Australian’s “safety and wellbeing” as well as “our democracy, society and economy”.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/09/15/australia-introduces-legislation-to-outlaw-disagreeing-with-the-government/

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      Murray Shaw

      Yes Ric, and they claim they are looking after the kiddies, and that is the thin edge of the wedge, bah!

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      James Murphy

      The only people I see threatening “our democracy, society and economy” are those in parliament houses across the country claiming to be defending all this from… well… there’s never any real detail on that, is there?

      The move from generally incompetent/selfish government, to generally malicious/authoritarian government seems just about complete, no matter which side of politics I look at.

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    Penguinite

    Election now Albo! Electric fantasies can come later. The curse of Pinko Batts!

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    Reader

    Shrinking island, vanishing polar bears — the climate scare stories that turn out to be false
    By Bjorn Lomborg

    https://nypost.com/2024/09/15/opinion/shrinking-island-vanishing-polar-bears-the-climate-scare-stories-that-turn-out-to-be-false/

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    another ian

    “BREAKING: We Have a Major Update on the Shooting at Trump International Golf Club”

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/09/15/so-we-have-conflicting-reports-about-the-latest-shooting-n2644797

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    MrGrimNasty

    Looks like Trump is looking for another post assassination attempt popularity boost!

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    Yarpos

    The neboulous “our democracy” again. Reminds me of the “build back better” orchestrated chorus.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “MSM Climate Alarmists Stumped After ‘Boiling Oceans’ Result In Very Quiet Hurricane Season”

    “So what happened to AP News, PBS, Vox, and other leftist corporate media outlets pushing climate doom headlines 24/7, igniting climate anxieties for America’s heavily medicated population who believe the propaganda that Earth is doomed in several years unless fossil fuels are banned and more solar and windmills are purchased from China.

    It’s embarrassing for these woke media outlets to focus so much on imminent climate doom and, like Al Gore’s climate prediction over the last several decades, never actually play out.”

    More at

    https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/msm-climate-alarmists-stumped-after-boiling-oceans-result-very-quiet-hurricane-season

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    Reader

    Firefighters used 50,000 gallons of water to put out Tesla Semi fire in California: U.S. agency
    https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/firefighters-used-50000-gallons-water-put-out-tesla-semi-fire

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    Penguinite

    Before Israel

    “Basic History for the Uninformed:

    1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.

    2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

    3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

    4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

    5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Crusader Frankish and the Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

    6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there were the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

    7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

    8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Sassanid-Persian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

    9. Before the Sassanid-Persian Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire again, not a Palestinian state.

    10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

    11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Jewish Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

    12. Before the Jewish Hasmonean state, there was the Hellenistic Seleucid empire, not a Palestinian state.

    13. Before the Hellenistic Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

    14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

    15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

    16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

    17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

    18. Before the Kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

    19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

    There have been many governments there, but never a Palestine.”

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      KP

      Before it was called “Australia”, did it exist?

      same argument- ‘Palestine’ is just the current label for the area that those people live in.. Were they living there before the current crop of illegal immigrants arrived by boats and occupied some land they called Israel?

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        Robert Swan

        Were they living there before the current crop of illegal immigrants arrived by boats and occupied some land they called Israel?

        For the vast majority, obviously not: they weren’t even born 75 years ago.

        IMO, you and Penguinite’s quote are both making the worst use of history: hunting through it for grievances. The point is to learn from the mistakes of the past, not perpetuate them.

        Would you agree that there’s a paradox in Aboriginal activists lamenting “Invasion Day” and so on, when the vast majority of them have some whiteness in their ancestry, so they wouldn’t even exist if the “invasion” hadn’t taken place? Even with today’s “pure” Aborigines: how many of their existences depended on white settlement (e.g. ancestors met at a mission). How many are descended from the “massacred masses” versus how many from the ones who collaborated with the settlers? It’s all pretty tangled.

        Likewise for the Palestinians. You can be pretty sure that they wouldn’t be a cause celebre if Israel had never been formed. What would they have made of themselves? Would the rest of the world have even heard of them? Do you think peace would rule in the Middle East if they didn’t have Israel as an object of shared hatred? Hmmm. That’s tangled too.

        Nothing done today can sort out the problems of the past. An eye to the future might be a better idea.

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        TdeF

        I have been watching a marvelous documentary on Youtube about the land of Canaan. The idea that any group was stable is absurd. It was the crossroads of the world for a very long time and the birthplace of Western civilization like the rest of the fertile crescent. The idea that any one racial or social group owned the land is ridiculous. And many groups have ancestral rights, but do such rights actually exist? Nearly everyone was carried off into slavery or migrated somewhere else at one stage or another, including the Jews on more than one occasion.

        This idea that someone ‘owns’ land is a modern invention. You only own what you can defend.

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        TdeF

        I wonder when we will have an aboriginal word for Australia and in which of 300 different tiny languages. Which would be really silly anyway as no aborigine had any idea they lived on an island or where it was or where anywhere was or when it was.

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          David of Cooyal in Oz

          Mathew Flinders was captain of the first ship to circumnavigate the island in 1802/3 and which he named Australia. He also produced the first map of our island continent. His ship was a British naval vessel. And he was a British adult male.
          There is no aboriginal carving or painting which is even claimed to be a representation of this island.

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            Skepticynic

            >the first map of our island continent

            I’ve seen an original early-contact Aboriginal map in use.
            It was not a birds-eye-view map like ours, and not a map of Australia. It was a guide to the desert water sources, (some hidden), on an annual migratory route.
            No doubt an Aboriginal map of the whole of Australia will surface once Bruce Pascoe opens the Department of Aboriginal Geography at Melbourne University, (why hasn’t that been renamed back to it’s Ab original name?)

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        Ronin

        Our clever indigenous ‘scientists’ had no name for Australia, they weren’t even aware they were camped on an island.

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    Vladimir

    When back in Aus I must go and check my eyes….
    First time in 2 weeks I saw a Tshirt with a small Palestinian message, in a mixed dense crowd of 100s of thousands, mostly young happy people – nearly naked and fully clothed with a narrow slit for eyes, covered by dark glasses, infrequent Europeans too.

    Malaysian Independence Holiday = every tribe in their own garb, happy waving to tourists, not a single banner about the ME War. Why can not we live in Melbourne like that? I know it is tightly controlled society but still…

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “ABC News Is Perplexed: Why Isn’t Kamala Harris Getting a Post-Debate Bounce? The Answer Is…”

    https://pjmedia.com/scott-pinsker/2024/09/15/abc-news-is-perplexed-why-isnt-kamala-harris-getting-a-post-debate-bounce-the-answer-is-n4932531

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      Kim

      Because the Deplorables are more intelligent than the Despicables. 😎️

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      RickWill

      Haitians eating family pets was pivotal. Will be interesting to see if it remains so.

      The globalist push to relocate refugees to pleasant middle class locations from the mess their culture has created in great numbers means there is limited opportunity to assimilate. It is a disaster in the making. The resentment is building against the globalist push.

      Biden should be setting the example and open up the White House to Hairian immigrants. Just make sure Major is kept out of sight of his guests.

      The 175,000 Biden era immigrants in New York will swing a few voters to Trump.. It is still unlikely to win New York but it would be a serious shake up if he did..

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      KP

      I’m sure there is no downside to destroying the light-dark phase of metabolism in every plant and animal that gets ‘daylight’ at night… Surely scientists have experimented and are happy it is ‘safe and effective’…

      Those pesky dark reactions that make a plant grow might just not happen, and THAT’S a weapon to fix any enemy who can’t put an anti-satellite missile into space! Even altering the day-night length would be enough to stop plants growing and flowering, but I’m sure they’ve figured this all out, like giving the female elephants in Kruger National Park contraceptive injections… Oh wait, that didn’t end well!

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    YYY Guy

    Managed to watch a few seconds of the latest Welcome to Country. AFL fans, hit them at the box office. Don’t go for a few weeks. So, who is he?

    Brendan Kerin is an Arrernte and Barkindji Elder and prominent member of the Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council. He is a cultural educator and performs Welcome to Country ceremonies, which involve formally welcoming others onto traditional Indigenous land.

    Personal Story

    Brendan’s personal experience includes being forcibly removed from his mother as a baby, a common practice during the era of forced assimilation. This traumatic event has had a lasting impact on his life and has driven his advocacy for Indigenous rights and reconciliation.
    Performances and Ceremonies
    Brendan is known for his powerful didgeridoo performances and smoking ceremonies. He has performed at various events, including National Reconciliation Week celebrations and AFL semi-finals. His Welcome to Country ceremonies are often characterized by his blunt and unapologetic approach, emphasizing that these ceremonies are not a welcome to Australia, but rather a recognition of the traditional custodianship of the land.

    Advocacy

    Through his performances and public speaking, Brendan aims to raise awareness about the history and experiences of Indigenous Australians, including his own story. He has spoken about the importance of acknowledging and addressing the trauma inflicted upon his community, and has used his platform to promote reconciliation and healing.

    Funny, when it went to court the determination was that children were only ever removed on child welfare grounds. Repeat a lie often enough…

    Searches lead us to Reconciliation Australia, featuring a lot of diverse people who sit at desks

    The 250,000 years BC man doesn’t feature prominently. Senior people do OK

    Salary $110,000 – $120,000 (including 17.5% leave loading) + Superannuation

    The lowest positions seem to do OK too.

    Annual salary: $87,000 – $97,000 plus superannuation

    Where does the funding of $110,000,000 ($40,000,000,000 p.a.) a day go?

    Recommended reading – https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/122563518-the-fabrication-of-aboriginal-history-vol-3
    Forensic dissection of the narrative.

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      Sambar

      Why would this chap play the didgeridoo in Brisbane. If he is from the “traditional owners” of the Brisbane area they DID NOT have the didgeridoo in their culture.
      The didgeridoo, that universally accepted instrument of aboriginal culture was in fact confined to a handful of tribes/clan groups in Arnhem Land
      and was not used or known by any other group outside this area until after the arrival of white men.
      He may just as well have played the saxophone.

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        Earl

        Reminds me of that other cultural appropriation exercise involving the bagpipes:
        The Egyptians gave them to the Greeks as a gift.
        The Greeks gave them to the Irish as a punishment.
        The Irish gave them to the Scots as a joke.
        The Scots didn’t see through the joke.

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    another ian

    Mention has been made of the amount of wilderness area being flattened for wind and solar projects along the Queensland coastal ranges.

    But it must be in fashion?

    “California Crews Begin Mowing Down Region’s Iconic Joshua Trees for Solar Farm”

    Concludes

    “If California politicos were seriously interested in reliable and affordable energy and protecting Joshua trees, they would be making plans to erect Generation IV nuclear reactors.

    Instead, we are going to spend decades recovering from the environmental damage caused by climate cult pseudoscience.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/09/15/california-crews-begin-mowing-down-regions-iconic-joshua-trees-for-solar-farm/

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    KP

    Now that discussion about whether we live in a fascist state or not… Starbucks workers go on strike, “Starbucks..closed three stores. Shut the doors. Took out its barista machines. Locked the doors. It claimed it was because the stores were unprofitable and had high management turnover. ”

    So the workers lose jobs and Starbaucks loses stores. Nope, that would be what happens in a Capitalist democracy. In a Fascist State where you own the means of production but the Govt control it- “National Labor Relations Board Administrative Law Judge Geoffrey Carter ordered Starbucks to reopen “within a reasonable period of time” two Ithaca locations that closed”.

    Of course this only works if the business continues to exist so the Govt have someone to control, Starbucks can be forced to re-hire the workers and run at a loss, but a small company would just go broke so the law doesn’t care about the workers there. Also, with Govt always picking winners to cement their Fascist beliefs, they could subsidise the stores and effectively pay the workers with money stolen from taxpayers, just like Holden and Ford here.

    https://blog.simplejustice.us/2024/09/15/alj-requires-starbucks-to-re-open-ithaca-stores/

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    KP

    Now here’s a laugh- Today’s propaganda for the Labor Party..

    “Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has revealed his government will fund nearly 14,000 new homes through the first cash injection from the $10 billion Housing Australia Future Fund, which invests in the stock market to generate an estimated $500 million a year..”

    Worked out the cost per house yet?

    “The initial outlay will create up to 4200 social houses, built by non-profits for low-income people, and nearly 10,000 affordable homes that are more expensive but still designed for lower and middle-income households.”

    How about now?

    “Labor’s claim of a $32 billion overall investment in housing was a fraudulent figure because it involved yet-to-be approved spending and rent assistance.”

    Now??

    No, lots of words, throw in some figures, but NOTHING to suggest what Labor expect to pay per house! If I can get one build for $600,000, I expect the Govt will happily blow $6million on each one. All they are saying right now is-

    “the exact cost of the new homes would depend on contract prices.”

    If the private sector can’t build “affordable” houses for the middle-class, the Govt surely can’t, every Govt contract I’ve ever seen has been waaayy more than a private one! The problem is in Govt regulations, otherwise we would have cheap hostels with shared kitchens and bathrooms for beneficiaries and cheap shacks as the next step up, but Govt regulations trap the poor in their Govt cage, otherwise what would all these public servants do?

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/cash-starts-to-flow-for-cheap-new-homes-20240915-p5kaot.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

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      James Murphy

      It’s not clear to me when public housing construction, or indeed, any housing construction became a federal government matter?

      I can understand the value of national building standards or similar, but aside from that I don’t see why they should be poking their collective snouts into this industry.

      Perhaps someone can enlighten me somewhat..?

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    The Second Assassination Attempt on Trump

    “The Telegraph (UK) has reported that Donald Trump was indeed the target of a suspected second assassination. The FBI has confirmed that Trump was the target. This took place when gunfire rang out at his Florida golf club. A man with an assault-style rifle pushed the firearm’s muzzle through the perimeter of his golf course in West Palm Beach. US Secret Service agents spotted the gunman and opened fire, prompting him to flee in an SUV, according to law enforcement officials. A suspect was later detained.

    Look, yes, I warned that there may be another attempt to assassinate Trump. Historically, there have been as many as three attempts to assassinate presidents before. With the country so divided, I do not see how this is going to end nicely. The Neocons have so stirred up hatred against Trump that they have torn the unity of the nation apart to retain their power while they are simultaneously trying to start World War III before the election, allowing long-range missiles to be handed to Zelensky to try to destroy Moscow.

    We have NOBODY in mainstream media who cares about the future. They are also so filled with bias and hatred that they have exposed the deepest, darkest, and most evil side of humanity. I fear that the computer will be correct. This 2024 election may indeed be the last.”

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-second-assassination-attempt-on-trump/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

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      Ross

      Statement by President Joe Biden on Sept 14, 2024 (yesterday, US time). “It has to stop.” “It’s simply wrong. There’s no place in America. This has to stop, what he’s (Trump is) doing,” It has to stop.” That wasn’t a statement regarding the shootings, that was Biden talking about what Trump was saying and doing. Plus there’s a number of other statements by Democrats and Democrats supporters with the same theme. Then a day later, there was another “shooter” incident. Shooter was Ryan Routh, a known democrat supporter, works for government and has been assisting Ukraine to recruit soldiers. Join the dots.

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        John F. Hultquist

        Shooter was Ryan Routh, a known democrat supporter, works for government and has been assisting Ukraine to recruit soldiers.”

        Meanwhile, here is what I’ve read:
        A background check on the name given by officials, Ryan Wesley Routh, revealed that he currently lives in Hawaii and has faced dozens of run-ins with police, stretching back to at least the 1990s.
        Routh is a native of North Carolina, where his list of arrests includes simple drug possession, driving without a license, expired inspection and operating a vehicle with no insurance. In addition, the Greensboro News & Record reported in 2002 that Routh was arrested after barricading himself in his roofing company’s office during a three-hour standoff that followed a traffic stop in which he put his hand on a gun before fleeing
        .”

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      John B

      One day the Deep state may recruit a more competent person. They are getting desperate since Trump may upset the ongoing global conflicts and eat into the Military Industrial Complex’s profits.

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    Geoff Sherrington

    A few days earlier I mentioned a surveyor son who had downloaded Australian earthquake data and made a map showing where quakes have been recorded above tremour level since (I think) year 1900.
    Here is a preview of the map. I am seekimng similar US data to compare and clarify.
    Are any readers into quakes?
    Geoff S
    https://www.geoffstuff.com/quakes.jpg

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      Greg in NZ

      Looks like an m-pox outbreak. I’d see a doctor.

      They’re certainly widespread, both on- and off-shore, and quite numerous. Alarmist Believing Cultists (ABCs) would say it’s man-made mining & drilling what done it, yet we all know it’s the rainbow serpent… or reverberations from Greenland’s tsunami.

      So much for ‘standing on solid rock’.

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    el+gordo

    Grass roots support for the Libertarian Party.

    ‘The Libertarian party could have up to 15 councillors across New South Wales and take control of a major regional council following the Liberal party’s failure to nominate more than 100 candidates for the weekend’s local government elections.’ (Guardian)

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      Steve of Cornubia

      That’s a very interesting article, but I take exception to this statement regarding all the Covid authoritarianism: “No age group suffered more than young people under 20.”

      Pretty much everybody suffered through the lockdowns, border closures and forced vaccination, but I reckon the elderly infirm suffered waaaay more than the rest of us. They were literally mistreated in hospitals, to the extent that many died from the treatment rather than Covid itself. They also suffered terribly when locked away in care facilities, when they weren’t allowed visitors even when they were dying. Even those not terminally ill were isolated in the most inhumane fashion, at a time when the occasional family visit was the only thing to lessen the fear, boredom and loneliness suffered by old people in ‘care homes’. Perhaps worst of all was the widespread, illegal use of ‘do not resuscitate’ orders, just to save money and empty beds – maybe even to inflate Covid death numbers. Beloved fathers, mothers and grandparents were essentially euthanised all alone, in dreary hospital beds, with nobody there to hold their hand.

      THIS, for me, was the very worst aspect of Covid mismanagement.

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    el+gordo

    Hmmm ….

    ‘In a preview clip of an interview with CNN to be aired on Sept. 15, Zelensky said Trump also told him “he understands how difficult it is to survive during the war.”

    ‘The comments are at odds with Trump’s previous public statements on Ukraine.’ (The Kyiv Independent)

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      Vladimir

      E+G, thanks.

      I hope you read a beautiful mid-19th Century poem by Y. Polonsky “St. Bede The Preacher”, if not – try to find it.

      You seems to be a lone sane voice here on the subject of mad, mad, mad, mad Putin’s war.

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        el+gordo

        Very kind of you to say so, I’ll look up the poem.

        Putin is a psychopath and Donald is a narcissist, neither are fit to hold office.

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          Honk R Smith

          I’m a fan of the psychopaths that are narcissistic enough not to be bothered to pretend they aren’t psychopaths.
          Authenticity … it’s a leadership quality.

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            KP

            “Authenticity … it’s a leadership quality.”

            “Sincerity is all in politics, once you can fake that you’ll always succeed”
            Attributed to Rob Muldoon, NZ’s PM for a decade.

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          Skepticynic

          >Putin is a psychopath and Donald is a narcissist, neither are fit to hold office.

          Do I detect a hint of bias against psychopaths and narcissists?

          Some of the world’s most eminent office-holders have been psychopaths and narcissists.

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          Honk R Smith

          Gordo, in all seriousness.
          What would the be the state human culture without leadership that expresses spectrum psychopathy and narcissism?
          Are you Australian?
          What personality type plans Gallipoli, and just moves on to become PM of Britannia and cheerfully lives to 90 while smoking big cigars, painting, and copiously consuming whiskey?

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    The 2nd Assassination Attempt

    “The Secret Service has captured the alleged attempted assassin, who is supposed to be a registered Democrat. Since he did not fire, they may not be able to charge him with an attempted assassination. This is the problem that the press and their constant hatred of Trump are dividing the country so profoundly that we are not likely to survive united as a nation beyond this election. In a recent article by D. Earl Stephens, he wrote:

    “Corporate media keeps hiding the truth about madman Donald Trump
    We have a complete madman running for the President of the United States, and it would be about damn time our national media started reporting it this way.”

    Is it any wonder that we have people coming unhinged and taking shots at Donald Trump? If he is elected, this will not suddenly stop.

    On the Private Blog, I wrote.

    “Our Civil War Cycle turns up September 4th, and quite frankly, these comments against Trump coming from the Democrats are right on time. When I warned over a year again that the computer was suggesting that this would be the last election and that 2028 may not even take place, many thought that was an absurd forecast.”

    Indeed, our Civil War Cycle turned 2024.679 (September 4/5th). This means the civil discord will increase, further dividing the country. This should escalate into the summer of 2025.”

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-2nd-assassination-attempt/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

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    another ian

    Dr John Campbell on the Florida Department of Health on the latest “covid vaccines”

    https://youtu.be/vFWWuB7qi74

    (Reinforcement if all ready posted)

    After viewing that why would you?

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    another ian

    FWIW – “farming is easy – right?” (/s)

    “Virginia corn growers facing ‘catastrophe’ ”

    https://americanfarm.com/articles/delmarvafarmer/virginia-corn-growers-facing-catastrophe/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Finally! Perpetual motion is now possible.

    We’ll use flaming Teslas to generate electricity to charge up Teslas to catch on fire to generate electricity to charge up Teslas to catch on fire to generate electricity… and on and on forever.”

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2024/09/16/september-16-2024-reader-tips/#comment-1933996

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Liz Cheney and the Reason MAGA Voters Side with Trump”

    https://spectator.org/liz-cheney-and-the-reason-maga-voters-side-with-trump/

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    Ireneusz Palmowski

    Abstract
    We use reanalysis and observational data to link the lower stratospheric ozone regulation of the ultraviolet radiation (UV-B) component of solar energy to ENSO modulation. Results indicate that during ENSO extremes, the Walker Circulation (WC) and Brewer Dobson Circulation are related to lower stratospheric ozone alterations east of the date line over the Pacific. These in turn are linked to upper tropospheric anomalous dipole temperature patterns on either side of the equator. The ensuing changes in geopotential height values do not only drive equatorial zonal wind anomalies in the upper troposphere that are reversed at the equatorial surface, but also impact on the intensity of the South Pacific High circulation. When the WC is enhanced, a La Nina type of circulation is indentified but if the circulation cell is inverted, the anomalous circulation results in an El Nino. Though the anomalous lower stratospheric ozone peaks during austral summer it is significant throughout the ENSO lifecycle. Hence, ENSO structure and variability are mainly linked to the lower stratospheric ozone instigated internal dynamics of the Pacific atmosphere. The ENSO forcing most likely originates from the ozone related regulation of the incoming solar UV-B radiation rather than the Pacific Ocean surface.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-05111-8

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Apparently, the would-be golf course assassin is a registered Democrat and his truck has a ‘Vote Biden’ sticker on the back.

    Needless to say, according to the ABC et al, the shooter’s motives, once again, are a complete mystery. Why, they’re not even sure it was Trump he was aiming at!

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