Thursday

Sorry about Wednesday.

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    MeAgain

    There is no other government so subject to civil wars and internal agitations as democratic or popular government, because there is none that has such a strong and continual tendency to change to another form, or that needs more vigilance and courage for its maintenance as it is. It is in a democratic system above all that the citizen should arm himself with strength and constancy, and say every day of his life what a virtuous Count Palatine said in the Polish parliament: ‘I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery’- Rosseau The Social Contract

    Outbreaks and civil wars scare rulers, but they aren’t the real misfortunes of peoples, who can even relax a little while there’s a dispute going on about who shall tyrannise over them. Their real prosperities and calamities come from their permanent condition: it’s when the whole remains crushed beneath the yoke that the whole falls into decay.

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      David Maddison

      that needs more vigilance and courage for its maintenance

      This is the problem with the Western representative democracies (technically they are not democracies).

      So many people have assumed they would continue to function in the manner their founders intended.

      Without continued vigilance they don’t. They gradually decline and are subject to continual attack and degradation.

      The Left have been attacking Western countries with great force for about 60 years now and now the destruction of Western societies has become self-perpetuating.

      There is now little hope except for a leader like Donald Trump to rise up and attempt to save his own country and in so doing, possibly save other Western countries or motivate the emergence of conservative leaders in those countries who will also try to save them.

      There is no doubt we are witnessing a major turning point for Western Civilisation and it’s not clear, and possibly not even likely, that it will survive.

      We are likely at the end of the wonders brought to us by the Scientific Revolution, Industrial Revolution and The Enlightenment.

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        Skepticynic

        >little hope except for a leader like Donald Trump to rise up and attempt to save his own country

        Even saviours might not be all they’re hoped to be.

        ‘….organised crime, secret services, corporate power, the deep state….they’re investing massive amounts of money in manipulating us…’ This week Neil talks power & corruption with the brilliant and forensically detailed investigative journalist Whitney Webb.

        (80 minute video)

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      Bruce

      See also:

      “Men, it has been well said, think in herds: It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one”.

      Charles Mackay: Scottish journalist. First published in 1841 under the title “Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions”.

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      el+gordo

      “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.” (Winston Churchill)

      Good to see the Ukrainians advancing on Russian soil, excellent strategy.

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    Honk R Smith

    Just noticing something about the peaceful counter far-wh …I mean right, peaceful not machete carrying multi-cultural demonstrators in the UK.
    They all wear coats and hoodies and often gloves.
    It’s August here in the NH, which in English is known as Summer.
    Is Global Warming in the English Midlands not so warm?
    https://youtube.com/shorts/ervKcVl69J0?si=GGnw9ODhk2v8-C9Y

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      tonyb

      The vast majority of the country is unaffected and has seen no sign of the riots.

      I would say the Far right-that is indeed what they are-are prepared to use ultra violence. There are the shaven headed mindless thugs who would not be out of place at a violent football match and another segment who are in their teens and twenties. They seem to be the ones in dark hoodies

      Not at all “Far right” are the overwhelming majority of Brits fed up with too much immigration-legal and from young men paying criminal gangs to get them in the country.

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        Honk R Smith

        So the government will ban X (and what remnant of free speech you have left) to prevent something that is not affecting the vast majority of the country?
        Plus, according to your PM, being fed up with immigration is far-right.
        And I’m guessing immigration problems are not affecting the nice parts of the country, just the parts where the thugs live.

        I remember the 80s when shaven headed mindless thugs singing and ‘playing’ instruments was a UK cultural export.

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        David Maddison

        Tony, I disagree with your interpretation that shaven-headed violent thugs are “far right”. Any rights-violating system such as communism or National Socialism is of the Left. These thugs are no different to Antifa or Mussolini’s blackshirts or National Socialist brownshirts

        Calling such thugs “far right” has its origins with Leftists after WW2 wanting to disown the horrors of National Socialism and to promote their own ideology so they called National Socialism as being a right wing ideology.

        The philosopher of fascism of which National Socialism was a derivative, was Giovanni Gentile, a socialist. The fascists and National Socialists were a different form of socialism to communism and they violently disagreed with each other, but they were still fundamentally socialist. E.g. they allowed private companies to exist as long as they were of benefit to the state and served the state by doing exactly what was demanded of them, a situation much like we have now.

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          These thugs call themselves far right and exist on far right social media platforms

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            David Maddison

            They can call themselves what they like. It doesn’t make it so. What would these knuckle-dragging brutes know?

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              I don ‘t get your point. Even the centre right daily mail calls them far right as do the even further right of centre Reform party.

              They are certainly not socialist as the left wing politicians and immigration lawyers targeted by them will testify

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              David Maddison

              And by the Lamestream media and politicians constantly calling them “far right”, the implication being that they are National Socialists (and therefore in reality being of the Left) it makes any conservative seem bad because to the Left ANYONE to the right of Pol Pot, Che Guevara or Mao is bad.

              The rebranding by the Left of Fascism and National Socialism as being “right wing” ideologies rather than of the Left has done enormous damage to conservative causes ever since WW2. From the Left’s point of view it was extremely clever and effective propaganda.

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                KP

                …and hence the political triangle favoured by Libertarians. Fascists and Communists all believe in the same thing, the triumph of the State over the family. You vill obey, end of story. The only difference is in who owns the means of production, The State in Communism, private enterprise in Fascism, but you will be told exactly how to run your private business.

                You will all be hoodwinked if you follow their arguments of Left and Right, it is the ultimate gas0lighting of the people. There are only Uniparties of the Right in Western countries, they call themselves Leftists but they support private ownership of business with the Govt writing screeds of laws and regulations about how you must run them.

                The immigration problem is one of racism and religious wars, some don’t like people other than white, some don’t like Muslims, but its not a Left-Right dichotomy, Communism has never been tolerant of religions or races.

                My wife was watching Tony Robinson exploring Aussie yesterday, so I had to listen. He was filmed in about 2015 and talked to a female expert about Aussie’s white-only immigration policy. It was all explained as a quaint mistake made by our ancestors, and now that we are educated about our foolishness immigration is for everyone and life is much much better. No mention of Cronulla, Western Sydney or Melbourne’s problems..

                Gas-lighting, a perfect example!

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                el+gordo

                The uniparty theory lacks a sound base, the major parties are a reflection of the populace, fairly conservative.

                Would you classify yourself as an anarchist?

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          Kim

          Communism and Fascism are opposite sides of the same coin. Both very similar to each other. Both define themselves in terms of each other – in opposition to the other. Both Socialist. Socialism is Feudalism reinvented – Feudalist fightback against the Reformation (1 & now 2).

          Fascism is where business owns government. Communism is where government owns business. Both are top down. Both are totalitarian. Both exploit the people. Wokism is Ethno Fascism on top of Communism.

          They tried both types during the first half of the last century. Communism initially won but not overall. Ethno Fascism and Fascism were destroyed. Then Communism largely destroyed. Then they were reinvented again as Wokism. A more ugly, more messy beast.

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      Bruce

      Also a bit more of “Life? imitating art”.

      Author Anthony Burgess dived into this sort of thing in his novel; “A Clockwork Orange”. The novel was published in 1962.

      Stanley Hubrick’s 1971 cinematic version Introduced the movie world to an entire new set of “features. The “protagonists, such as they were are the “Droogs”, who were fond of a bit of recreational “ultra-violence”. And, just for a nice twist, spoke ina weird argot heavily influenced by Russian.

      Once you have seen the movie, you will never hear Gene Kelly performing “Singin’ in the Rain” in the usual light, ever again.

      Another work of fiction intended as a salutary warning but adopted as a “how-to” manual?

      There is probably a PhD (“Piled higher and Deeper” for a paper on “Dystopian literature and other art in a post World War era”.

      OK, all you Droogs; lace up your Doc Martens and get to it!

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    tonyb

    Big news on the BBC main news is renewed bleaching of coral due to water that is at its warmest in 400 years. The coral may never recover..

    Surely the fact that it was warmer 400 years ago and yet the coral recovered should tell us something? (even if true in the first place)

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      David Maddison

      Climate catastrophists are what I call staticists and think the climate never changes and that bleached coral is dead coral.

      Apart from the fact that Australia’s Great Barrier Reef is extremely healthy, not so much in the Left’s beloved Third World countries where the environmental vandals (but not climate) have mostly destroyed their reefs through over fishing and dynamite fishing etc.

      It’s a sad and highly destructive world view the Left have because they are destroying our Western countries’ economies because of it.

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      So it’s warmed up from the LIA.
      I’m so glad.

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      Kim

      British Broadcasting Crap yet again.

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      Ronin

      And the fact that coral exists all the way up to New Guinea in 30 deg water seems to escape them.

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      el+gordo

      This is the report and the GBR is fine.

      https://www.aims.gov.au/monitoring-great-barrier-reef/gbr-condition-summary-2023-24

      I don’t think warm water is behind coral bleaching, so its an alarmist beat up by the MSM.

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      el+gordo

      They are not saying it was warmer 400 years ago.

      ‘Co-author Helen McGregor said she was “extremely concerned” about the reef, describing the temperature increases as “unprecedented”.

      “These are corals that have lived for 400 years and this is the warmest temperatures they’re experiencing. These are the Redwood trees of the reef,” she told AFP. (France 24)

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        Gee Aye

        correct. The data goes back 400 years and the recent temperature is the highest.

        Pays to look beyond the headlines as much as it pays to question ones own assumptions.

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          el+gordo

          True, looking more closely at coral cores over 381 years, bleaching has irregular cycles.

          ‘Here, we use linear extensions from 44 overlapping GBR coral cores to extend the observational bleaching record by reconstructing temperature-induced bleaching patterns over 381 years spanning 1620–2001.

          ‘Porites spp. corals exhibited variable bleaching patterns with bleaching frequency (number of bleaching years per decade) increasing (1620–1753), decreasing (1754–1820), and increasing (1821–2001) again. Bleaching prevalence (the proportion of cores exhibiting bleaching) fell (1670–1774) before increasing by 10% since the late 1790s concurrent with positive temperature anomalies,’ (Kamenos et al 2018)

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      Yarpos

      I guess they may be helping the coral’s overall health by keeping the tourists away.

      A friend with a daughter at JCU told me earnestly that it will all be gone in 20 years. Was a bit miffed when I doubted it. Apparently the current apocalypse (looks outside with puzzled expression) is far worse than anything previously experienced.

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    tonyb

    A bit of light relief as number plates banned for being smutty

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-13718227/74-number-plates-BANNED-DVLA.html?ico=mol_desktop_home

    Does OZ have number plates that can be a bit dubious?

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      CO2 Lover

      After winning this election, the Andrews government honoured this pledge, with the new plates released on 16 October 2015, starting at 1GA-1AA. Unlike previous combinations, the “1G” combination was only produced in standard dimensions with the “Victoria – The Education State” slogan.

      “Victoria – The Misinformation and Disinformation State” would be closer to the truth.

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        KP

        All those State labels were just cringe-worthy! Every one of them lauded exactly what the State wasn’t.

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        John Connor II

        Remember “Victoria – the place to be”?
        Before Covid, anyway.😆

        Maybe “Victoria – Australia’s California” 😆😆😆

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      David Maddison

      Does OZ have number plates that can be a bit dubious?

      Car registratiom/license plates that are deemed offensive are either not issued or if they manage to slip through, they can be recalled, and have been on more than one occasion.

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      Earl

      Surely the “complete” list provided is totally incomplete. FA74NNY (giggle giggle) is banned but if you register in the Forest & Fens/Nottingham area you might get away with FF74NNY, which despite the stutter is the more accurate way of spelling it.

      Then we have FF74GGY and FF74GAT making the banned list butt(sic) if you register in the Manchester/Merseyside area you might get away with ME74RSE….

      But most interesting of all UP74KYY is apparently that offensive it appears twice on the banned list no wonder they are driven to FA74WAH.

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      Kim

      We have personality plates. A neighbour has “Our Soles”. I guess the shoe business does well 🙂

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      Ronin

      I followed a car last year that had a plate 810-40, it was easily read as Blo-Ho, so was the owner a travelling hair stylist or a travelling hooker.

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        Richard C in NZ

        >was the owner a travelling hair stylist

        Followed my hairdresser along the highway for a while. Like many of them she’s a bit of a preener and was checking herself out in the mirror almost constantly. I noticed the bumper sticker – “Caution – driver applying makeup”.

        I thought that was appropriate so I quizzed her next time in. She said – “Yeah, my dad stuck that on”.

        Dad knew.

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          Richard C in NZ

          >Like many of them she’s a bit of a preener

          But also surprisingly tough. Had a baby and was immediately out and about taking it to where she was working to show it off.

          Slim and not at all a big gal. I was impressed by that.

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            Yarpos

            I’ve often wondered how many times one has to flick their hair and/or play with it per kilometre.

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          John in NZ

          Richard

          NIWA sent me the data yesterday and I have to agree with you. there is a divergence in the data. Not big, but it is there.

          I calculated the annual average values for BHD and MLO from 1973 to 2023. I drew some graphs.

          Here is BHD and MLO over time.

          https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/j1trxsva2uah28gvsd7fy/CO2-Annual-Averages-BHD-and-MLO-over-time..jpg?rlkey=uv22rpebxv4bdxf9rvjoo95kw&dl=0

          and the percentage difference between MLO and BHD over time.

          https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/93y4x2mbhz2xc40osobms/CO2-percent-diff-between-Baring-Head-and-Mauna-Loa..jpg?rlkey=5bz3muwky3c2xpoz3iuddwkc8&dl=0

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            Richard C in NZ

            Dropbox – “When your request is approved, we’ll email you a new link to access the content”

            Until I get that emailed to me I can’t access those graphs.

            What is the ppm/decade difference this century?

            Basically,

            2000-2023 trends
            MLO CO2 ppm/decade
            BHD CO2 ppm/decade
            Diff = Divergence

            My rough estimate: 1ppm/decade.

            Gomez et al downthread say:

            In 2007, the Baring Head trend is about 3.0 parts per million (ppm) lower than Mauna Loa compared to 1.5 ppm in the 1970s.

            I think they’re referring to multi-decadal trends there.

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              John in NZ

              I don’t know why the links don’t work straight away.

              In the meantime.

              The difference between MLO and BFD annual average shows a steady rise.

              1973 to 1979 1.46 ppm
              1980 to 1989 2.39 ppm
              1990 to 1999 2.90 ppm
              2000 to 2009 3.64 ppm
              2010 to 2019 4.38 ppm
              2020 to 2023 4.72 ppm

              Over the whole period, 1973 to 2023, the MLO trend is 1.82 ppm/yr, BHD is 1.75 ppm/yr

              I will post this and go and calculate the decade trends.

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                Richard C in NZ

                John >I don’t know why the links don’t work straight away.

                Check your email. You have to Ok my access i.e. Share.

                Worked before so I don’t know why different this time. But check access – Public/Private?

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                Richard C in NZ

                Downthread I posted this (from OWID CO2 Emissions):

                Annual CO2 Emissions
                https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions

                22.75 – 25.5 bt (+2.75) 1990-2000
                25.5 – 33.31 bt (+7.01) 2000-2010

                2.54 times (154%) more in the decade after 2000 than the decade before.

                If there’s a human fingerprint in Atm. CO2 data it will show up as a difference between the respective trends :

                1990-2000 MLO & BHD trends
                2000-2010 MLO & BHD trends

                MLO – Natural + Human(NH)
                BHD – Natural

                Trend difference, MLO vs BHD, is human signature.

                Ok, so now we have that (thanks):

                ppm/decade
                1980 to 1989 2.39 ppm
                1990 to 1999 2.90 ppm +0.51
                2000 to 2009 3.64 ppm +0.74
                2010 to 2019 4.38 ppm +0.74

                So even though human emissions (bt) increased 154% (predominantly NH/China), the MLO-BHD trend divergence only increased +0.23ppm/decade.

                Global Atm. change (NOAA)
                https://gml.noaa.gov/webdata/ccgg/trends/co2/co2_mm_gl.txt

                369.39 ppm 2000 1
                388.62 ppm 2010 1
                19.32 Diff

                0.23/19.32 x 100% = 1.19%

                154% rise in human emissions 2000-2010 (in respect to 1990-2000) produces a 1.2% increase in MLO(NH) vs BHD(SH).

                That’s a tiny human CO2 signature.

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              Richard C in NZ

              >What is the ppm/decade difference this century?

              I ask this because that is the period of greatest human emissions.

              Annual CO2 Emissions
              https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions

              22.75 – 25.5 bt (+2.75) 1990-2000
              25.5 – 33.31 bt (+7.01) 2000-2010

              2.54 times more in the decade after 2000 than the decade before.

              If there’s a human fingerprint in Atm. CO2 data it will show up as a difference between the respective trends :

              1990-2000 MLO & BHD trends
              2000-2010 MLO & BHD trends

              MLO – Natural + Human(NH)
              BHD – Natural

              Trend difference, MLO vs BHD, is human signature.

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                John in NZ

                >Trend difference, MLO vs BHD, is human signature.

                That is what they say but I don’t believe it. There is not the same trend difference between Cape Grim (CGO) and MLO
                There are a lot of possible explanations but I don’t have time. I am supposed to be cooking a satay and I need to chop up a rump steak into little pieces.

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                Richard C in NZ

                Me >Trend difference, MLO vs BHD, is human signature.

                John >That is what they say but I don’t believe it.

                See upthread here on that.

                BTW, It is me that says “Trend difference, MLO vs BHD, is human signature”.

                Gomez et al downthread here just say:

                “Changes in seasonality at Mauna Loa are of the order of 5 ppm whereas seasonal changes at Baring Head are closer to 1 ppm. The difference between the two trends and the smaller seasonal cycle at Baring Head reflects the extent of the differences in emissions and biogeochemical processes between the two hemispheres, the Northern Hemisphere governed by the greater land mass and the Southern Hemisphere by the greater extent of oceans influenced by a large polar region.”

                They’re vague and don’t get down to specifics.

                I’ve made the leap by logic and implication.

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                Stanley

                Other factors contributing to the difference could be: higher sea temperatures near MLO leading to CO2 degassing; active volcanism near MLO causing higher emissions of CO2.

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                Richard C in NZ

                Stanley >Other factors contributing to the difference could be: higher sea temperatures near MLO leading to CO2 degassing; active volcanism near MLO causing higher emissions of CO2.

                Yes, Gomez et al (above) state differences of “biogeochemical processes”.

                Except, does that also explain a 1.2% increase in MLO(NH) vs BHD(SH) trends 2000-2010 in respect to 1990-2000?

                I don’t think so. I’m more inclined to think it was due to a 154% rise in human emissions 2000-2010 in respect to 1990-2000.

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                Stanley

                Please don’t assume upvote / downvote from me ‘cause it’s not.

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              John in NZ

              The trends for increasing CO2 for Mauna Loa and Baring Head are

              1973 to 1983 is 1.37 ppm for MLO
              1.31 ppm/yr for BHD

              1983 to 1993 is 1.48 ppm/yr for MLO,
              1.49 ppm/yr for BHD

              1993 to 2003 is 1.83 ppm/ye for MLO
              1.74 ppm/yr for BHD

              2003 to 2013 in 2.04 ppm/yr for MLO
              1.94 ppm/yr for BHD

              2013 to 2023 is 2.27 ppm/yr for MLO
              2.35 ppm/yr for BHD

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                John in NZ

                >The Climate War (i.e. the critical issue(s)) is elsewhere.

                It is about power and money. While we are worrying about global warming potential, they are gathering political power.

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              John in NZ

              Richard.

              Apparently I had to give permission for you to share the file. I have never had to do that before. Try clicking on them now.

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                Richard C in NZ

                John, I got an email from Dropbox in respose to my request to access. You shared “CO2 Annual Averages BHD and MLO over time..jpg” with [me]”

                I can now access ‘CO2 Annual Averages BHD and MLO over time’ but not ‘Percentage Differences’.

                You have to approve that too.

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                John in NZ

                Try the percentage one now. I thought I had made it so everyone could share/view

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                Richard C in NZ

                >Try the percentage one now

                Gottit.

                Definitely an increasing divergence in percentage terms. But I think ppm terms is more telling.

                From upthread:

                [Your data John]:
                ppm/decade
                1980 to 1989 2.39 ppm
                1990 to 1999 2.90 ppm +0.51
                2000 to 2009 3.64 ppm +0.74

                2010 to 2019 4.38 ppm +0.74

                So even though human emissions (bt) increased 154% (predominantly NH/China) [2000-2010 in respect to 1990-2000], the MLO-BHD trend divergence only increased +0.23ppm/decade.

                Trend difference, MLO vs BHD, is human signature [Me by logic and implication, not Gomez et al].

                Someone, I assume Stanley, disagrees going by the red downvote and his following comment.

                I replied to Stanley here.

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                Richard C in NZ

                John, I suggest laying aside Atm. CO2/Human Emissions for a while.

                The Climate War (i.e. the critical issue(s)) is elsewhere.

                On Tuesday I posted this challenge (“Prove me wrong”) to everyone:

                CO2 Radiation vs. Work, Power and Energy

                Work – Emitted radiation does no useful work: it does not heat water; does not energize photovoltaic cells (PVs); and it does not heat materials on the surface of the earth.

                Power – The measured radiation is Apparent power only; it is not Real heating power.

                Energy – The energetics of IR-C are negligible compared to solar IR-A/B. The energy-per-photon is in units of milli electron Volts (meV) compared to electron Volts (eV).

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                No-one took me to task i.e. no overt disagreement.

                Synopsis: If CO2 has no effect in terms of Work, Power, and Energy (SI), and I demonstrate above it doesn’t, the entire GHG Theory of Global Warming is invalidated.

                Suggest too that you take a look at the series downthread in respect to:

                Greenhouse Gases Are a Scientific Myth
                By James T. Moodey
                https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/08/greenhouse_gases_are_a_scientific_myth.html

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      Ian George

      Best two number plates I have seen.
      Vic plate – WTF 001
      NSW plate – POO24H. (Plumber)

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    tonyb

    Perhaps someone from the States can tell us who on earth the potential Vice President is?

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/holdharris-taps-minnesota-gov-tim-walz-vp

    Does it materially strengthen Kamala’s appeal to the voters or will they just shrug?

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    Graeme No.3

    I’ve been thinking about the minimal difference in CO2 in the two hemispheres even though at least 90% of human emissions come from the Northern Hemisphere (wait for it, TdeF). The South is obviously an unpaid sink for the North.

    Then I thought of our poor P.M. looking for a turn around in his political fortunes; he’s readied himself for an election this year – a $300 handout for electricity users (negates the $274 cheaper promise), a bit of tax rate fiddling, and the expected good news from the Olympics. All he wants is for the football finals to be out of the way and the weather warming up a bit. But he’s behind in the Polls.

    What he needs is a new Green Policy to excite the media and some of the population; and I think that he can get this from a multinational Certificates (to offset emissions) from the Southern countries for sale in the North. It is true that China, India, Russia, Uzbekistan etc. would laugh at the idea but look at the EU, and Canada, and best of all the USA if Trump loses; they will fall for a Send your Money Down the Southern Sink idea.

    All it requires is for Albo to tour the southern counties to whip up enthusiasm. Uruguay, Peru, Brazil, Argentina & Chile would be keen on getting their share, so first stop for Albo should be (central) Paraguay.

    Then a few days in each of South Africa, Zambia, Lesotho, Angola, Madagascar, Mozambique, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Rwanda, Burundi would have them all converted into keen on any money the Southern Sink Green Scheme gets.

    Island nations desperate for money such as Samoa, Fiji, Solomon Islands, NZ, etc. would need no convincing.

    It would be stressful on Albo but he would be delighted with the media coverage about the Great Green Money Sink. And for Australia the reward would be for him to be somewhere else.

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      John in NZ

      Hi Graeme.

      There is actually a good reason for there being only a small difference in CO2 between hemispheres even though more CO2 is produced in the north.

      CO2 has a turnover time of about 4 years. (IPCC FAR p.9) This means about 25% of CO2 is removed from the atmosphere each year. Of course there about the same amount of new CO2
      put into the atmosphere each year.

      “The mean annual concentration of CO2 is relatively homogeneous throughout the troposphere because the troposphere is mixed on a time scale of about 1 year” IPCC FAR p.9

      If the turnover time of CO2 were less than 2 years we would see regional or hemispheric difference, but we don’t, so it isn’t.

      The IPCC use the word “lifetime” to refer to two different things, “adjustment time” which they say is 50 to 200 years, and “turnover time” which they say is about 4 years.

      In the first couple of assessment reports they use “turnover time” but since then, they use lifetime for both. It seems to deliberate to create confusion.

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        CO2 Lover

        good reason for there being only a small difference in CO2 between hemispheres

        Then riddle me this – why the differnce in temperatures if CO2 is the bad guy?

        https://profhorn.aos.wisc.edu/wxwise/AckermanKnox/chap14/climate_spatial_scales.html#:

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          Richard C in NZ

          CO2 Guy >why the differnce in temperatures if CO2 is the bad guy?

          Perfect demonstration right now in ERA5 Northern Hemisphere vs Southern Hemisphere:

          ERA5 – Daily Surface Air Temperature
          https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/?dm_id=sh

          Crazy SSW-driven spike in the SH vs nada in the NH.

          But declare global “Hottest Days” anyways.

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          John in NZ

          CO2 lover.

          CO2 is not the bad guy. Never was. Never will be.

          Each year more than 200 Pg of Carbon moves into and out of the atmosphere. The uncertainty is much greater than total anthropogenic emissions. Only 10 Pg of the flux is from human activity. (I prefer to use units of C rather than CO2)

          But changes in CO2 follow changes in temperature. This, and the fact that there is an equilibrium relationship between atmospheric and oceanic CO2 means anthropogenic emissions are not relevant. The equilibrium relationship controls atmospheric CO2. The flux responds to changes in emissions. When emissions go up, the movement of CO2 from ocean to atmosphere changes.

          At the moment, humans are putting more CO2 into the atmosphere than is needed for the equilibration, so not all atmospheric CO2 remains in the atmosphere.

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        Bruce

        The IPCC is who started and drove all this insanity in the first place.

        Giving credence to any of their sombre mutterings is a bad move.

        It is more management (actually “RULE”), by crisis; a tactic that works even better if the people who claim to be solving said crisis, are the same people who started it.

        See also: “Gaslighting”.

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        Graeme No.3

        John,
        my tongue was firmly in my cheek. As in “Island nations desperate for money such as Samoa, Fiji, Solomon Islands, NZ, etc. would need no convincing.”
        I didn’t think that anyone would take me seriously.

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          Richard C in NZ

          >“Island nations desperate for money such as Samoa, Fiji, Solomon Islands, NZ, etc. would need no convincing.”

          But just to be sure:

          University of the South Pacific launches new research hub for climate change
          https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/524319/university-of-the-south-pacific-launches-new-research-hub-for-climate-change

          A new climate change research hub has been launched at the University of the South Pacific (USP).

          The USP is the region’s premier higher education institution, jointly owned by 12 Pacific islands countries.

          The university’s vice-chancellor and president, Professor Pal Ahluwalia, said “climate change is more than the greatest challenge of our time” and the new Centre for Sustainable Futures “will strengthen USP’s core role as a traditional university”.

          # # #

          Everyone is a Climate (Social) Scientist now.

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          Richard C in NZ

          Graeme >“Island nations desperate for money such as Samoa, Fiji, Solomon Islands, NZ, etc. would need no convincing.”

          Except, those former are a beneficiaries of NZ aid i.e. NZ is a funder:

          New Zealand increases climate aid contribution
          Prime Minister Climate Change

          18 October 2021
          https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-zealand-increases-climate-aid-contribution

          Government commits $1.3 billion over four years to support countries most vulnerable to the effects of climate change

          At least 50 percent of funding will go to the Pacific as it adapts to the impacts of climate change

          But,

          Strings attached: New Zealand’s climate aid in the South Pacific
          https://ojs.aut.ac.nz/pacific-journalism-review/article/view/1186

          PACIFIC JOURNALISM REVIEW
          New Zealand’s climate aid in the South Pacific

          https://ojs.aut.ac.nz/pacific-journalism-review/article/view/1186/1494

          With crisis comes opportunity

          Prior to 2020, climate change was on its way to being a top-priority issue to governments all over the world—particularly those in highly-affected regions like the Pacific. Then 2020 happened. COVID-19 has dominated public talk for months and there are no signs of this changing any time soon. Big ticket issues like social inequality and climate change found themselves on the backburner during the 2020 New Zealand election,…

          Disaster!

          Money train derailment.

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          John in NZ

          Sorry Graeme. I prostrate myself.

          In my defense, in this insane world, it is hard to tell the difference between sarcasm and honest opinion.

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        Chad

        There is actually a good reason for there being only a small difference in CO2 between hemispheres even though more CO2 is produced in the north.

        ?? Err.. who says more CO2 is produced in the north ?
        Maybe most “anthropogenic “CO2 is produced in the NH, but that is only a small component of the total CO2 flux, most of which is from the Oceans….and the SH has its fair share of those !

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          John in NZ

          You are absolutely right Chad. I should have said “more anthropogenic CO2 produced in the north” The tropical oceans are net emitters. The polar oceans net sinks.

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      Richard C in NZ

      3rd Graeme >the minimal difference in CO2 in the two hemispheres even though at least 90% of human emissions come from the Northern Hemisphere

      And Mauna Loa (MLO) in the NH apparently diverging from Baring Head (BHD) and Cape Grimm (KCGBAPS) in the SH by (roughly) 1.0ppm/decade this century.

      Left a query with the NIWA Atm. Scientist contact asking:

      Is this divergence real?

      If so, why?

      Crickets so far.

      A bit awkward I suspect. Divergence has been known since at least 2007. Reasons – NH-SH “geo-chemical” and “industrialization” differences i.e. natural+human.

      Translation – the divergence is due to China’s emissions (human), mostly, from the natural trace i.e. natural (97%) + human (3%) = total NH CO2.

      And natural (100%) = total SH CO2.

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        Richard C in NZ

        >Divergence has been known since at least 2007

        A COMPARISON OF THE BARING HEAD AND MAUNA LOA ATMOSPHERIC CO2 RECORDS
        A.J. Gomez, G.W. Brailsford, K. Riedel, and D.C. Lowe
        https://gml.noaa.gov/co2conference/pdfs/baring_head_abstract.pdf

        A comparison of the CO2 records from Baring Head with Mauna Loa, the longest continuous record for a Northern Hemisphere site (19.5°N, 155.6°W), is presented.

        Both show similar increasing trends and growth rates though the difference between the two trends is widening.

        In 2007, the Baring Head trend is about 3.0 parts per million (ppm) lower than Mauna Loa compared to 1.5 ppm in the 1970s. (Note this does not include the altitude effect at Mauna Loa).

        Changes in seasonality at Mauna Loa are of the order of 5 ppm whereas seasonal changes at Baring Head are closer to 1 ppm. The difference between the two trends and the smaller seasonal cycle at Baring Head reflects the extent of the differences in emissions and biogeochemical processes between the two hemispheres, the Northern Hemisphere governed by the greater land mass and the Southern Hemisphere by the greater extent of oceans influenced by a large polar region.

        “Differences in emissions” is a massive understatement. There’s ZERO industrialization in the Southern Ocean, from whence BHD and KCGBAPS air/CO2 samples originate.

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          KP

          “Surprisingly, a comparison of the growth rates and the inter-annual variability (around 1-2 ppm), exhibits strong correlations on a monthly time scale despite the interhemispheric atmospheric transport exchange time for CO 2 of about 18 months”

          So.. we know both hemispheres are going up together, the man-made CO2 can’t influence the South in that time, but we don’t want to admit that the oceans are controlling CO2 really..

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      Richard C in NZ

      >CO2 emissions

      Make zero difference:

      Greenhouse Gases Are a Scientific Myth
      By James T. Moodey
      https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/08/greenhouse_gases_are_a_scientific_myth.html

      At our gas-physics Weights and Measures facility in California, we tested carbon dioxide. It cools about the same as dry air: 20 degrees in less than 4 minutes. It cannot possibly retain heat from day to day (global warming). We also tested our humid atmosphere, including the trace gases therein. That [humid air] cools about 1 degree every 32 minutes or 20 degrees in roughly 11 hours. These tests prove that no gas — not carbon dioxide, nitrogen, methane, nor even humid air — retains heat from day to day.

      Game over.

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        Richard C in NZ

        Moodey,

        John Tyndall spent two years building a large device that used a galvanometer indicator to measure gas temperature. The galvanometer did not quantify temperature; it measured only the movement of a gauge with gradation marks from 0 to 100. His use of an indicator with no calibrated temperature numbers led to his false conclusion, as you will read below.

        On page three of his study, Tyndall described his measuring chamber as polished brass with rock-salt lenses at each end. The subject gas would be trapped inside the brass chamber, and he produced heat that passed through both rock-salt lenses to a sensing device. Sensing at the end of the chamber was a thermopile, which detects heat emanating through air. It then sent a variable current to the galvanometer indicator.

        Tyndall should have simply used a bi-metal temperature gauge, which had been invented about sixty years prior. It seems that since the galvanometer and the thermopile devices were new inventions, he wanted to use them.

        Continues next.

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          Richard C in NZ

          Moodey,

          The inaccuracy resulted in Tyndall listing air as absorbing “0” temperature. This proves the inaccuracy. Dry air absorbs about 22 degrees on average each day. For example, Death Valley has very dry air, and it absorbs an extreme amount of heat.

          Then Tyndall lists in increasing temperatures carbonic oxide, carbonic acid, nitrous oxide, and olefiant gas. Olefiant gas is ethylene, which is the largest molecule in the group. These are called compound molecules because they are two or more connected atoms, like CO2. Air is a mixture of unconnected atoms, mostly oxygen and nitrogen. When Tyndall’s galvanometer registered 1 on a scale of 100 for air and 70.3 for another gas (on pages 7–9), Tyndall concluded that the latter gas absorbed 70.3 times more temperature than air.

          At this point, he ended his testing of relative temperature absorption to surmise what is now the greenhouse theory: since air absorbs almost no temperature, it is, in Tyndall’s words, “transparent to the rays of the sun,” which penetrate the air to warm the Earth’s surface. Some temperature that is absorbed by Earth is radiated back up, and such small amount of temperature is absorbed by larger compound-molecule gases (greenhouse gases in today’s jargon).

          This sounds good. However, the inaccuracy of Tyndall’s instrument and measuring air at near zero temperature led to his false conclusion about a so-called greenhouse effect.

          The temperature he was measuring was obviously extremely low and below the accuracy range of his instrument. Consider that the temperature of a single candle-type flame under a copper chamber filled with water, then through the copper wall, then through a rock-salt lens, into a brass chamber that would have leaked temperature, then through another rock-salt lens, then through open atmosphere, could have been below one degree Fahrenheit for all we know. All the temperatures would have been within one degree of each other, not 70 times greater.

          Continues next.

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            Richard C in NZ

            Moodey,

            Throughout the final pages of his paper, Tyndall discussed these so-called enormous differences — when, in fact, they were likely so small that accurately measured results would disprove his greenhouse theory.

            Our experiments proved this to be true. The cooling time of dry air and carbon dioxide are very nearly the same. There is little difference in heat absorption between small-molecule gases and large-molecule gases.

            It is water vapor that retains the vast amount of heat, not the size of the molecule. Large-molecule (compound) gases retain heat for minutes, not days. There is no such thing as a greenhouse gas or any gas, including vaporous air, that retains heat from day to day (global warming). Greenhouse gases are a scientific myth.

            Theory, meet actual lab results.

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          Peter C

          Richard,

          Could you give reference for trhe Tyndal experiment?

          As I recall he was not measuring temperature but rather IR transmission.

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            Richard C in NZ

            Peter >Could you give reference for the Tyndal experiment?

            Wikipedia good as any:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall

            Tyndall began intensive experiments on 9 May 1859, at first without significant results, [15][16] then improved the sensitivity of the apparatus and on 18 May wrote in his journal “Experimented all day; the subject is completely in my hands!” On 26 May he gave the Royal Society a note which described his methods, and stated “With the exception of the celebrated memoir of M. Pouillet on Solar Radiation through the atmosphere, nothing, so far as I am aware, has been published on the transmission of radiant heat through gaseous bodies. We know nothing of the effect even of air upon heat radiated from terrestrial sources.”[17][18]

            You can chase [15][16] and [17][18] down yourself.

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            Richard C in NZ

            Peter >As I recall he was not measuring temperature but rather IR transmission.

            In his article above, James T. Moodey disagrees:

            John Tyndall spent two years building a large device that used a galvanometer indicator to measure gas temperature. The galvanometer did not quantify temperature; it measured only the movement of a gauge with gradation marks from 0 to 100. His use of an indicator with no calibrated temperature numbers led to his false conclusion, as you will read below.

            On page three of his study, Tyndall described his measuring chamber as polished brass with rock-salt lenses at each end. The subject gas would be trapped inside the brass chamber, and he produced heat that passed through both rock-salt lenses to a sensing device. Sensing at the end of the chamber was a thermopile, which detects heat emanating through air. It then sent a variable current to the galvanometer indicator.

            Tyndall should have simply used a bi-metal temperature gauge, which had been invented about sixty years prior. It seems that since the galvanometer and the thermopile devices were new inventions, he wanted to use them.

            “Tyndall described his measuring chamber as polished brass with rock-salt lenses at each end”.

            Diagram – Tyndall Experiment
            https://www.rigb.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image/public/images/tyndallradiantheatpublication700x500px_0_032b71f429f1e3.jpg?itok=Vg_xfcDd

            Photo – Tyndall Chamber
            https://www.rigb.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image/public/images/radiantheatapparatuspaulwilkinson700x500px_0_002b71f429f1e3_0.jpg?itok=T4qTA8Ta

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        Richard C in NZ

        >CO2 emissions [Make zero difference – lab results]

        Although, going by this media blitz, “repeating climate misinformation” “aids believing”:

        Repeating aids believing: climate misinformation feels more true through repetition – even if you back climate science
        (The Conversation)

        Repeating climate denial claims makes them seem more credible, Australian-led study finds
        (The Guardian)

        Experiment shows repetition boosts belief in climate-skeptical claims, even among climate science endorsers
        (Phys Org)

        ‘Fuel to the fire’: repeated climate-sceptic claims enough to nudge even the strongest of climate change endorsers
        (Australian National University)

        # # #

        Does “climate misinformation” include actual lab results?

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    CO2 Lover

    Kamala and Tampon Tim Are Caught Astroturfing Support – Paying Social Media Users to Post Pro Kamala-Walz Content on Instagram

    The best team money can buy.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/kamala-tampon-tim-are-caught-astroturfing-support-paying/

    Tampon Tim sound a lot like our Commrade Andrews!

    Kamala Harris Chooses VP with Deep Ties to Communist China: Tim Walz Visited China Over 30 Times, Had a Special Work Visa, Set Up a Student Program to Travel in China, and Even Honeymooned There

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/kamala-harris-chooses-vp-deep-ties-communist-china/

    Donald Trump and his supporters have nicknames for every major Democrat. There’s “Sleepy Joe,” “Crazy Nancy Pelosi,” and the former president recently started trying out “Kamabla” for Kamala Harris (not his most inspired work). Of course, Tim Walz was going to need his own schoolyard taunt. “Tiny Tim”? “Wonky Walz”? No, MAGA conservatives have instead opted for “Tampon Tim.”

    The right has seized on that nickname to draw attention to a piece of legislation Walz signed into law as governor of Minnesota. The law, which went into effect at the beginning of this year, requires that students have access to menstrual products at school. Specifically, products like tampons and pads “must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades four to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district.”

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    CO2 Lover

    Taylor Swift concert fears as two suspects ARRESTED for allegedly plotting terror attack on upcoming Austria shows

    The usual suspects!

    How quickly we forget the Manchester Bombing and the Paris Attack

    As people were leaving the Manchester Arena following an Ariana Grande concert, a suicide bomber detonated an improvised explosive device resulting in 23 deaths (including the bomber).

    Terrorists behind 2015 Bataclan attack sentenced to life by Paris court. The Islamist terrorist attacks that killed 130 people in Paris in 2015.

    But the attack on young girls at Southport that left three dead has nothing to do with the usual suspects according to “Two-Tier Keir” .

    Steven Weinberg — ‘With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil – that takes religion.’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13720173/Taylor-Swift-two-ARRESTED-plotting-terror-attack-Austria.html

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      CO2 Lover

      Top U.K. prosecutor considers terrorism charges over ongoing riots and disorder

      But the Two-Tier police in the UK were quick to assure the British public that the knife attack on young girls at Southport had “nothing to do with terrorism”.

      Disinformation at its finest!

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uk-riot-disorder-prosecutor-considers-terrorism-charges/

      Two-Tier Keir must be worried anti-goverment protests in the UK might produce the same result as they did in Bangaldesh!

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        Skepticynic

        Typical UK.
        A terrorist act is, “nothing to do with terrorism”, but protesting against terrorism is considered terrorism.

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        KP

        “Two-Tier Keir must be worried anti-goverment protests in the UK might produce the same result as they did in Bangaldesh!”

        We wish! Sadly protests in the West never seem to change the Govt, yet they are so effective in the Third World or post-Soviet States or South America… Maybe the protesters should ask the CIA for advice, I think that might be the determining factor.

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    Alex

    The great majority of English protestors are just normal people, family-loving people, who are fed up with the two-tier justice system and the unpunished crimes that have overtaken the democratic world, which has now lost most of its democratic credentials to the woke-left-islamic-anti-Israel globalist cabal. They, we, are not racist or right-wing or far-right, but they, we, are just right, by far.

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    David Maddison

    We are at the point now where the only sources of news of what’s really going on in the world is free speech platforms like X and this Jo Nova blog.

    I call Lamestream “news” “The Lies”.

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      Vicki

      This site is one of the first I go to every day for accurate “news” that is affecting our lives.

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      Ronin

      Remember the newspaper called ‘The Truth’, anything but.

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        Graeme No.3

        For readers in the UK The Truth was a Melbourne newspaper very much along the lines of News of the World.

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          Peter C

          There was a lot of Truth in it actually, especially the salacious details of some court cases which the other newspapers chose to ignore.

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      Ross

      David, yesterday I did some quick research on X about Mr Walz. Yikes, within 5 minutes I had learned he has claimed false role in Iraq war, he promoted the BLM riots in his home state (also his wife and daughter), replaced his states flag with one from Somalia in some presser and did the whole Tampon legislation thing. Plus during COVID was even worse than Daniel Andrews (Victorian Premier we called Dictator Dan). I’m referencing Dan for other readers, by the way, not you. Yesterday afternoon listening to FM radio station and they presented Walz as if he was the new messiah and then dumped on Trump for 5 minutes. Then this morning glanced at some nauseating articles by Time on why he is popular. I know now why he is popular, he’s a know nothing loudmouth who gives good sound bites. So, yes, yet again proving MSM are just useless as news providers.

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      yarpos

      Had the pleasure of experiencing some MSM news while watching some of the Olympics on 9. TV news really is the lowest of the low. All presented by people with constant over acting grins on the faces for some reason. Quite odd, even more so when you think about how highly paid this alleged talent is.

      I don’t have a trusted source of news. I just try to sample widely when I have the time and energy and then try to make sense of it all.

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    David Maddison

    The search for Planet 9 is on in earnest. (Or Planet X as it used to be known, back in the day before Pluto got demoted.)

    And it’s thought to be a big one, about five times the mass of the earth.

    https://youtu.be/V403Or7x4CQ

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      CO2 Lover

      If found, I hope they call it Altair IV

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      Peter C

      Strangely they don’t mention the 3 body problem as the cause of the pertubations in the orbits of the outer planets. 9 body problem must be even more likely to cause chaotic behaviour in the orbits.
      Therefore I don’t understand how anyone can invoke the presence of additional planets by calculations.

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        RickWill

        I am increasingly confident that reducing planets and the sun to point masses of infinite density rather than dimensional objects has led to misunderstanding that the gravity field cannot impart torque.

        The sun spins at quite and impressive rate at the equator but spins slower at higher latitudes. There has to be viscous losses associated with the shearing that occurs. And the sun is now slowing down. I believe the gravitation field imparts the spin and the imparted torque goes through 21 year reversal of short duration on top of much longer reversal of 840 years. The spin does not reverse but accelerates and decelerates.

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    CO2 Lover

    platforms like X

    As Elon Musk clashes with Starmer on X: Could Twitter be banned in the UK?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/elon-musk-twitter-x-uk-ban-starmer-b2591999.html

    Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk

    https://www.politico.eu/article/united-kingdom-riots-elon-musk-x-twitter-fake-news-disinformation/

    Funny how the Left lable the truth as “Fake News” or “Disinformation”!

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      KP

      Britain joins the BRICS…

      Twitter is banned in- China, Russia, North Korea, Turkmenistan, Myanmar, Iran, and Pakistan… India, South Korea, and Tanzania.

      I’d say they all belong together.

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    CO2 Lover

    More on that Mercedes EV fire in South Korea – 23 injured

    New planning rules in Australia? NO EVs in underground parking garages?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixbdcGZZ4CU

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    YYY Guy

    I know a lot of things happening now (and for many recent years/decades) are not funny but sometimes a meme captures it.
    Marry a female woodworker

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    YYY Guy

    Being a sceptic that any charity does anything it says it does, merely enriching it’ board, management and employees I came across this little article, helping the young homeless
    Fancy website
    Always follow the money, as they say.
    If you scroll down to page 37/60 you can see income of $15m.Mostly from grants at $13m (you and me taxpayers).
    Ah, expenses. $8m for the wukkas. $3.7m to wukkas mates. Almost $2m in other expenses. $700k for fees to mates. If my maffs is correct only 1% ($144,601) actually goes to getting yoof into accommodation.
    I can see a problem but apparently no one in gummint can follow the money. Why am I a sceptic?

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      KP

      “Being a sceptic that any charity does anything it says it does, merely enriching it’ board, management and employees”

      Absolutely! Churches are right in there too! GLADD has hit the headlines this week for the same thing, first class airfares, limosine hire, mega-dollar chalets to stay in, staff incomes over a million dollars..

      Why would any Govt NOT want to help charities, the lobbyists pay Govt members, Govt members pay charities, charities pay lobbyists.. No-one important loses.

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    Honk R Smith

    Are Keir Starmer and Dan Andrews related?

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    John Connor II

    Thursday funny

    Did you know that the concept of ZERO was invented after someone listened to a Yoko Ono album?

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    YYY Guy

    It’s not just cars and scooters bursting into flames

    Crisis meetings between Territory Families and NT Police were held to discuss removing ankle monitoring devices from young offenders across the Territory, after a young person fitted with one was sent to hospital on Saturday when the device “ignited” on his leg, the NT Independent can reveal.

    That just leaves a ball and chain as options.

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    John Connor II

    The thought police

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1820805335700873619

    1984 is so old hat…

    Let’s all go back down the path of history to 2014.

    A shocking report today revealed that 1,400 children were sexually exploited in one town over a 16-year period.

    The report found that children in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, were raped by “multiple perpetrators” and trafficked to other towns and cities.

    The report – which looked into cases in the town between 1997 and 2013 – found that in more than a third of cases the youngsters were already known to agencies. It said there had been “blatant” collective failures by the council’s leadership.

    It concluded: “It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered.”

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rotherham-sex-abuse-shock-report-4110194

    The powers that be did NOTHING, to avoid being seen as racist.
    That fact alone does however point to the prime culprits.
    Those who bring crime and disorder from their own countries to their new homes, as we’re seeing everywhere.

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      Custer Van Cleef

      Similar case in Rochdale. Very well dramatised by the BBC as “Three Girls”. All the perpetrators were Pakistani-heritage men.

      Modus Operandi: young girls plied with alcohol and free takeaway food. Then abused by a crowd of men of all ages: taxi drivers, curry chefs, married men with umpteen kids.

      Rochdale Grooming Scandal | Manchester Evening News

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      Skepticynic

      >did NOTHING, to avoid being seen as racist.

      Which is in itself racial discrimination, i.e. racist.
      These Woke morons must be morons!

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    John Connor II

    Cyberattack Targeting National Public Data Could Have Leaked Information Belonging to 2.9 Billion People

    Recently, hackers claimed to have obtained a vast amount of personal information through a cyberattack targeting National Public Data d/b/a Jericho Pictures, Inc. (“NPD”) Based on third-party reports, the cybercriminal group that took credit for the attack claims that it was able to obtain the personal information of 2.9 billion people. If these reports are true, it would mark the largest data breach in history. Notably, NPD has not yet confirmed a cyberattack; however, if the claims of the National Public Data data breach are true, the company will be required to send out data letters to anyone who was affected by the security incident.

    https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/cyberattack-targeting-national-public-3359159/

    It’s going to get a LOT worse. 😎

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    John Connor II

    Thursday wtf: Raccoons Can’t Resist Breaking Into Tesla Cybertruck Models

    Something about Tesla Cybertruck models calls to them and they have figured out how to break into the vault or truck bed to steal your snacks.

    One man was camping in the wilderness when he woke up to discover adorable raccoon paw prints all over his Cybertruck.

    Then he realized they did a significant amount of damage to the tonneau cover, leaving massive holes in it. For the record, the raccoons didn’t get inside of the truck for the snacks.

    However, now the tonneau cover needs to be replaced to make it ‘waterproof’ again. Who knows what that will cost and how long it will take?

    https://www.motorbiscuit.com/raccoons-breaking-tesla-cybertruck-models/

    Apparently the Cybertruck “styling” resembles the average dumpster a bit too much. 😆

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    OldOzzie

    Coal or nothing will be the reality for the next 15 years as Chris Bowen blindsides Australians with renewables ‘cheque in the mail’ promise

    Australia’s lastest energy data shows the nation is heavily dependent on coal-fired electricity generation – and it serves as a major reality check for Labor and their wind and solar agenda, writes Nick Cater SkyNews.com.au Contributor and Political Commentator

    The renewable energy confidence trick is unravelling faster than Chris Bowen probably anticipated.

    The Energy Minister’s promise of a smoother and faster transition to low-carbon electricity has proved as un-bankable as the $275 cut to annual household electricity bills we were told we’d be enjoying about now.

    The Australian Energy Market Operator’s latest data reveals the dependence on coal in the June quarter was greater than the corresponding period in 2022 when Labor came to power.

    This is despite the closure of the 2GW Liddell Power Station in the Hunter Valley in April 2023 which was supposed to be sign of the irresistible progress towards renewable energy.

    Yet retiring coal generation is largely being replaced by coal as remaining plants are pushed to their limits to make up for the shortfall of electricity on the East Coast Grid.

    The amount of wind power in the grid was nine per cent lower in the June quarter this year than in the same period in 2022.

    Wind turbines were becalmed for 75 per cent of the time forcing AEMO to push the interconnector from coal-rich Queensland to NSW to its limits.

    The road map which AEMO presented to Bowen in 2022 envisaged that 60 per cent of coal-fired electricity generation would be phased out by the end of the decade, putting the minister on course to meet his heroic target of 82 per cent carbon-free electricity.

    Clearly that cannot happen without a chronic shortfall of electricity and widespread blackouts.

    Investment in grid scale solar and wind has slowed to a trickle. The demand for new rooftop solar is slowing too, suggesting that it may have reached its peak.

    All of which puts the Federal Government in a something of a quandary.

    The amount of grid-scale wind and solar in the system needs to increase by 160 per cent by 2030 to meet the government’s target.

    As in Europe, the renewable dream is colliding with the reality that intermittent, weather-dependent energy sources cannot replace reliable base load power.

    No amount of batteries would have been able to compensate for the extended period of low winds in the late Autumn and early winter in Australia.

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      OldOzzie

      Labor’s ‘highly secretive’ Environment Protection Australia proposal threatens our international relations, would hand even more power to unelected officials

      The Albanese cabinet reshuffle will not slow down its plan to impose even more climate red tape on critical resources industries and put Australia’s economic wellbeing at risk, writes Saxon Davidson Institute of Public Affairs Research Fellow

      Much has been written of the Prime Minister’s cabinet reshuffle last week, particularly in relation to the demotion of ministers responsible for Australia’s out-of-control migration system.

      Yet, one overlooked fact is the survival of two of the PM’s most destructive ministers, Chris Bowen and Tanya Plibersek.

      Since the Albanese Government’s election, Bowen and Plibersek, together, have been responsible for the runaway growth of red tape cruelling our vital agriculture and resources sectors.

      It is hard to escape the conclusion that these sectors are under deliberate attack from the political class in Canberra.

      All too often the role these sectors play in generating wealth for our nation is unappreciated.

      It is this wealth that is invested in the services which the entire community benefits from, such as roads, schools, and hospitals.

      Institute of Public Affairs’ research recently revealed the number of federal government bureaucrats responsible for policing red tape has already hit 100,000.

      It would not shock many to learn that the largest growth has occurred within the Department of Climate Change, Energy, Environment and Water.

      Red tape is currently at a record high in Australia, and it is set to get worse.

      The federal government’s ‘Nature Positive Plan’ and Environment Protection Australia (EPA) legislation currently before parliament will only further this regulatory expansion.

      The Nature Positive Plan is being sold as a response to a review of the EPBC Act undertaken by Professor Graeme Samuel, which transfers many of powers of the federal environment minister to an unelected bureaucrat, while at the same time locking up of 30 per cent of Australia’s land and sea area from use.

      Concerningly, one of the key planks in the Nature Positive Plan and the EPA has little if anything to do with Samuel’s recommendations.

      Through the ignoring of Professor Samuel’s suggestions, Australians are to bear witness to a wholesale transfer of power from elected officials to unaccountable bureaucrats.

      IPA analysis of the expense and scope of state-based EPAs estimates a duplicate federal body will cost taxpayers $1.8 billion per year and employ approximately 4,760 bureaucrats.

      This body is set to expand the staffing levels of the Climate Change and Environment portfolio under Tanya Plibersek by approximately 80 per cent.

      What’s most alarming about this proposed body however isn’t its size, it’s the highly secretive nature of its regulatory processes.

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        OldOzzie

        ‘Adding to the current crisis’: Labor pledges 15 per cent pay rise for childcare workers

        Because money grows on trees. Every child player wins a prize.

        Thursday, 08 August 2024

        ‘The path to more profits is increasing costs and dropping revenue.’

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          OldOzzie

          ‘Just isn’t it bro’: Anthony Albanese under fire over cost of living ‘joke’

          Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has faced backlash following a cost of living ‘joke’, with some calling for his media team to be sacked.

          We have a child as prime minister.

          Seriously?

          Australians have lashed out at Prime Minister Anthony Albanese over a “cringe” social media post appearing to make light of the cost-of-living crisis.

          Mr Albanese posted a photo imitating the iconic So Fresh Australian compilation CD series, with the cover instead saying “so helpful, cost of living relief — Winter 2024”.

          In place of top songs, the album cover references government initiatives including “cheaper medicine”, “tax cuts for every Australian taxpayer”, “$300 off power bills” and “$3 billion of student debt wiped”.

          “New album just dropped,” Mr Albanese captioned the post.

          However people were quick to lash out at the post, with some branding the post as insensitive.

          “This just isn’t it bro. You’re making light of a very situation currently happening in our country. Whatever intern posted this, be better,” one person commented.

          “The cost of living isn’t a joke! You created it and live off our taxes,” another wrote.

          “People are losing their homes because of you and what’s your response,” another commented.

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            OldOzzie

            ‘We’ve lost a cylinder in a four-cylinder engine’: Insolvency help soars as economy struggles

            Administrators are being appointed to struggling businesses at an “astonishing” rate with firms in states most exposed to higher interest rates, NSW and Victoria, at the greatest risk of going under.

            As the nation’s small business ombudsman outlined an ambitious plan of tax concessions, better access to valuable government contracts and savings of up to $1 billion from cheaper payment systems for the sector, new figures on the level of insolvency appointments confirmed the pain being felt by many small and family-owned businesses.

            This week, the Reserve Bank downgraded its expectations for the economy which is now forecast to have grown just 0.9 per cent in the 12 months to the end of June.

            Job ads are rapidly falling with the RBA expecting unemployment to lift through the rest of this year.

            A corporate insolvency measure compiled by Insolvency Australia shows many businesses struggling to deal with the drop-off in economic activity and increase in overall costs.

            According to the company, there were 11,049 administrators appointed to companies in the 2023-24 financial year, a 39 per cent jump on the previous year.

            The states with the country’s largest mortgages and the highest rents are feeling the pinch most. NSW accounts for more than half of all insolvency appointments at 6654 with another 3501 Victorian-based businesses in financial trouble. Appointments are up by 41 per cent in NSW, Victoria and Queensland.

            Over the financial year, there was a 99 per cent increase in court-initiated liquidations and a 219 per cent jump in restructuring matters sorted out by administrators.

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              Earl

              Nephew, good stable well paid job (at understaffed government enterprise exacerbated by absenteeism thanks to “safe and effective” mandate i.e. plenty of overtime) good financial record and sizeable deposit applies for home loan for investment property which already has a long-term business tenant.

              Broker suggested bank X for their rate and fact that they also have the fastest turnaround time. Application appears to stall so broker escalates it twice to try and get result.

              Finally gets approved with explanation that delay due to loans area currently working under enormous strain of high volume of re-financing requests.

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    John Connor II

    In Germany, doctors are being ordered NOT to treat patients who disagree with the government’s policies.

    “Opposition politicians face censorship, threats and physical attacks. The current government openly spies on party members, and German doctors have been instructed not to treat AfD supporters and representatives. Even ordinary Germans who support the course of the faction, including underage children, are subjected to criminal prosecution and unfounded accusations of extremism,” said Mira Terada.

    In a desperate attempt to curb the spread of views undesirable to the current establishment, according to Mira Terada, the German authorities have resorted to restricting freedom of the press in the country.

    “The apogee of censorship by the current German government was the banning in July 2024 of Compact magazine, the only printed opposition publication with a circulation of 40,000 copies per month. The ban was carried out on the direct orders of German Interior Minister Nancy Feather. The blocking of the publication took place two days after the journalists published an interview with Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova, in which the facts and circumstances hidden from the Germans were revealed,” explained Mira Terada.

    https://fondfbr.ru/en/articles/political-persecution-us-europe-russofobia-en/

    Well, doctors made a laughing stock of the medical profession, so why not?
    Here we go again, eh Germany?

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    John Connor II

    Thursday sarcasm

    For sale:
    One only used president.
    Pull the strings and it talks gibberish!
    An old model with funny facial expressions.
    No further use due to early failure.
    Suit aspiring totalitarian regime.
    Can master basic sentences with help.
    Enquiries to nwo_leftovers@CCP.
    10% surcharge applies.
    Free Hunter painting with purchase.

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    David Maddison

    From Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited, 1958.

    It seems to be the exact situation we have now.

    “Under the relentless thrust of accelerating over-population and increasing over-organization, and by means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms – elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest – will remain.

    The underlying substance will be a new kind of non-violent totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial – but Democracy and freedom in a strictly Pickwickian sense. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit.”

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    Earl

    Thursday’s shake your head in wonder moment.

    Daily Mail story on claim of racial profiling by Queensland police that culminated in excessive force being used to arrest an African person for driving without a seatbelt back before Christmas 2023.

    The inference is that the African gentleman drove into a gas station and exited his car at one pump before realising it was not E10 so jumped back in and moved his car to an E10 pump without putting his seat belt back on.

    The police (who more likely would have followed him into the gas station rather than coincidently being there) then swooped on him for not wearing his seat belt. But it has only been some 9months since the incident so no time for the DM to check out when the police became involved.

    Same lack of time probably contributed to the DM also not establishing whether the gentleman is now an Australian citizen. This level of investigative journalism would have made the task of giving him a degree of anonymity by using a *not his real name so much easier.

    Yes, folks despite the story being supported by the actual police bodycam video and 3 photos, all of which clearly show his face, name anonymity was required.

    And what suitable name did DM choose:

    Changamire Chipangamazano

    A check of google shows that the words translate as “General Counsel” – rather ironic given the circumstances. Google also states that the “term” suggests it comes from the “shona” language and apparently this language is:

    “A Bantu language belonging to the Niger-Congo language family. It is spoken by approximately 10.8 million people, primarily in Zimbabwe, where it is an official language.”

    Great job DM. Reporting on racial profiling by making up and allocating a name that reeks of…

    And the collective shook their heads in wonder.

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    CO2 Lover

    Albo and Bowen take two private jets to Hunter Valley to announce Australian made solar panels at former coal power station site – remeber?

    The kiss of economic death – just like Albo’s visit to that EV Recharging Company – Brisbane fast-charging company Tritium may be forced to close its Australian factory and move its headquarters overseas.

    Australian low cost solar hope SunDrive cuts staff and changes CEO, but still focused on copper tech

    https://reneweconomy.com.au/australian-low-cost-solar-hope-sundrive-cuts-staff-and-changes-ceo-but-still-focused-on-copper-tech/

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    CO2 Lover

    Never trust Corrupt Public Serpents – this also applies in Australia

    Many Americans also don’t believe they can trust the FBI, Secret Service or even Congress to get to the truth about what happened.

    A petition has been started demanding a local grand jury in Butler, PA to investigate the attempted assassination of President Trump on July 13, 2024.

    President Johnson rewarded J Edgar Hoover for his role in removing Kennedy from Office by waving complusory retirement at age 70 and Hoover remained head of the FBI until he died in 1972 at the age of 77.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/sign-petition-create-grand-jury-butler-pa-investigate/

    Were J. Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson lovers?

    The relationship between Hoover and Tolson comes mostly from the public record: meals together twice a day, joint vacations, a final burial place just a few yards apart. Their interior and sexual lives remain mostly a matter of speculation.

    Hoover and Tolson had a marriage of sorts. But what sort of marriage was it?

    https://slate.com/culture/2011/11/clint-eastwoods-j-edgar-were-j-edgar-hoover-and-clyde-tolson-lovers.html

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    David Maddison

    “Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories.” —Thomas Jefferson (1781)

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    David Maddison

    Why trust Bill Gates to develop a vaccine? After 30 years, his Windows OS is still highly susceptible to viruses.

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      John Connor II

      No, Windows Defender is safe & effective protection!

      The perceptive may have realised that mRNA vaxxes are in essence a code injection attack.😎

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      Steve of Cornubia

      After years of Mac use, I reverted to a PC recently because a new Mac capable of handling large numbers of huge image files was silly money.

      Now I think I understand how Apple can get away with charging so much. Deja vu has taken me back to the horror of the 1990s, when PCs were the bane of my life, largely because of Windows. It seems little has changed.

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    CO2 Lover

    Bill Gates a Mommy’s Boy

    Mary Gates, Bill Gates’ mother, was on the same board as John Opel, the president, chairman and CEO of I.B.M. They discussed her son’s company and Mr. Opel mentioned Mrs. Gates to other I.B.M. executives. A few weeks later, I.B.M. took a chance by hiring Microsoft, then a small software company, to develop an operating system for its first personal computer.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Well, my faith in the British police force has been restored. After many years thinking they simply can’t catch baddies any more, it seems good old-fashioned policing still exists.

    Now I’m not saying it’s FAIR policing, just that, surprise surprise, they haven’t forgotten how to hunt lawbreakers down and slap a pair of handcuffs on them. And the nation’s justice system, like the police, apparently never lost the ability to process said baddies quickly and efficiently, too. Amazing.

    Mind you, it appears that these rediscovered skills only apply in certain circumstances. While a naughty tweet can see an indigenous Brit banged-up in a matter of days, a bit of light raping here and there (OK, maybe even a lot of raping), is unlikely to earn you an interview if you worship down the mosque.

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    The boiling ocean and the GBR. Port Douglas’ water temp today is 22.9, just a tad below the average minimum.
    https://www.seatemperature.org/australia-pacific/australia/port-douglas.htm

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    FWIW

    “Coming Clean On Clean Energy: It’s A Dirty Business”

    “The American Consumer Institute just released a report detailing many of the environmental impacts associated with the so-called green energy forms being heavily promoted. The life cycle of all three—the wind turbine, solar panel, and EV battery—involve significant environmental consequences that should not be overlooked and need to be part of the discussion when implementing energy policies.”

    More at

    https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/coming-clean-clean-energy-its-dirty-business

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “JD Vance Visits Harris’s Media Pool: ‘Thought You Guys May Get Lonely’ Since She Doesn’t Answer Any Questions”

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/08/jd-vance-visits-harriss-media-pool-thought-you-guys-may-get-lonely-since-she-doesnt-answer-any-questions/

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    another ian

    FWIW – venturing into “the dirty side of art”

    “Dragon Dragon, Quite Contrary!”

    And the comments

    https://madgeniusclub.com/2024/08/06/dragon-dragon-quite-contrary/

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