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    tonyb

    To get us off to a gentle start to the week here are 10 ancient greek and Roman jokes

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12649959/The-worlds-10-oldest-jokes-laugh-ancient-gags.html

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      Earl

      Roman sentry #1: “What’s a grecian urn”
      Roman sentry #2: “About 2 drachma a day”.

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      Strop

      Tony taking advantage of Jo’s reduced typing. The last time comment #1 was jokes Jo ordered a little more respect for the top of the thread. 🙂
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      On the theme of first examples of particular joke topics. It was in Egypt around 92 BC when the first transgender joke was told by the Pharaoh’s son, who was just a little Phart at the time, when he quipped that his daddy was going to become a mummy.

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        tonyb

        Hmm. Having seen some of the first comments on threads there seems to be very variable quality. Anyway, I like being first as I can then claim first place bounty which I understand is $20000 . Funnily enough I have yet to see it.

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        Hanrahan

        That would not have been an unthreaded. Jo doesn’t want threads on specific topics derailed early.

        I have never seen her object on general threads.

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          tonyb

          So you are saying my $20000 is safe?

          I fully agree with the need to keep specific threads on topic.

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          Strop

          It was a Friday unthreaded.

          The comment from Jo was:

          Commenters, the Unthreadeds are apparently a valued forum, given the number of comments. Can we please treat the top of the Unthread with a bit of respect?

          Jo had snipped some jokes from one post because they were a little blue.

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      robert rosicka

      tonyb, was just reading the ancient jokes and seen the riddle about the Ox the Cow and the loaded wagon , it’s actually a trick riddle because an Ox is usually a castrated Bull so no calf .
      So a bit like the old gag about what’s heavier a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers .

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    tonyb

    A grim headline

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1826613/israel-hamas-war-live-iran-hezbollah-updates

    For those of you who know their ancient History, Persia has been a threat to the “West” since time immemorial battling the ancient Greeks and Romans amongst others. I do wonder if they will dare to get involved this time round as certainly the young people of Iran are very fed up with their theocratic rulers.

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      Honk R Smith

      I know what happened at the Hot Gates.
      I also know that Thucydides, an Athenian, said ‘in 1000 years people will see the great stone temples of Athens and believe Athens was the great city of Greece, when in fact it was Sparta’.

      How will history know us?

      IMHO when are in a wholly new and little understood place.
      I think the ‘Pandemic’ was the ultimate event since Bronze and Iron.
      And little to nothing to do with a contagion.
      New conquerors are upon us.
      We don’t quite have names for them yet.
      They likely have no nation or King.
      But those of us that don’t require names to see, are attempting to warn …
      and are dismissed as ‘theorists’.

      And I pray rightly so.

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        tonyb

        Good comment, Honk. Many new conquerors I think.

        From the nonsenses caused by Covid, through to Dictators becoming more belligerent and banding together to try to form a new world order. The West seemingly happy to throw away their culture, aided and abetted by surely the worst leaders in a time of crisis for hundreds of years, and collectively seeing great harm in climate change and deliberately destroying their economies and impoverishing their citizens of energy, whilst the rest of the world looks on in amazement.

        Poor generals, weak military, out of control spending, a dissolute public, no leadership, allowing barbarians inside our gates. It all has far too much of a sniff of the last decades of the western Roman Empire for my liking.

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          Kalm Keith

          And “lawfare” to bind and gag potential leaders is the new weapon of those who have a taste for Dominionation and control.

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        Bruce

        The Plandemic?

        There were TWO “contagions”; BOTH “artificial”.

        One was the Bio-War “gain of function” device “road-tested” at the “World Military Games” in Wuhan 2019. Whether this was a “lab-leak” or a deliberate “run”, is open to conjecture. The “vaccine” caper that followed is all pert of the same “right-sizing” game.

        The BIGGER pathogen was the carefully-managed panic-mongering via the LSM and its government puppets, who are all too practiced in creating scares and then “chasing them away” at constantly increasing cost to liberty and general prosperity. The abomination of the eco-mazi cabal is an object lesson of huge consequence.

        Scared and bewildered people are very easty to manipulate.

        As Lenin put it, so succinctly:

        The worse, the better”.

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        Aloha! I can define it … WEF! Its full on class warfare against the Western working class and small business. The covid lockdowns and vaccine mandates were tests by the WEF and they proved to be better than the WEF anticipated. The citizens of the West flung their Rights and Freedoms to the wind in a split second. The complete opposite of the 1918 Spanish Flu days. None of the elites or supposed scientists and big pharma went to jail just as none of the bankers went to jail in 2008. Now because the peasants acquiesced so fast they think they have the green light on CBDC.

        It took 46 WEF billionaires to elect biden in 2020 and 47 to convince biden to say kamala was his VP. Two of the emptiest vessels ever known to mankind dwelling in Washington DC which is perfect for billionaires who need unconscious puppets.

        The WEF is essentially a billionaire cartel like the Mexican drug cartels. They operate as a mafia. Every year the elected politicians come to Davos to kiss the ring of the unelected Don Klaus! It should be illegal.

        One word sums up the WEF … KAKISTOCRACY!

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        DOC

        ‘None are so blind as those that will not see’, nor care to look beyond the moment!

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        Tarquin+Wombat-Carruthers

        Yet I started thinking immediately of Klaus, the head of the World Economic Forum! How did that happen? At my age, 82, he’ll have a really tough time convincing me to become a serf in his nirvana plans!

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      David Maddison

      As I posted late on yesterday’s thread (and Honk commented upon:

      Prof. Gad Saad is a conservative intellectual who speaks and writes in support of Western values but has just released a terribly sad and disturbing video although I believe he is 100% correct.

      Shame on everyone who contributed and continues to contribute to the current civilisational collapse we are now witnessing.

      Duration is only 1min 44sec.

      https://youtu.be/aYolXVwRWZ4

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        David Maddison

        It’s alarming the rate at which the United States and the West in general is now degenerating.

        Possibly it’s even faster than the collapse of other ancient civilisations due to social media and the instant rate at which bad civilisation-destroyong ideas can be transmitted.

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          yarpos

          Yes it a grim reminder of how much of the western way of life is just a thin facade, that needs maintenance and protection. A lot of people laugh at the prepper mindset (which does have its extremes) however they don’t seem to realize much of what they take for granted can disintegrate very rapidly.

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            DOC

            The clandestine, and not so clandestine, leaders of Western philosophy ie those that say ‘we will all own nothing and be happy’, all depend on the citizens failing to believe in the traditional Judeo-Christian philosophy. They believe there are no enemies in the world and see potential enemies as downtrodden poor people who are maltreated by the West, and turn a blind eye to the despotic leaders of those people. The despots are seen as strong leaders installing martyrdom level fidelity in their young people as the price to correct the wrongs taught, not seeing the fiendishness of those leaders seeking their own destinies.

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            Ronin

            An internet outage causes some chaos but power outages are the biggies, no fuel, no water,no ATM, no EFTPOS, no elevators, no refrigeration, no sewerage pumps, the list goes on.

            I’ve seen firsthand, the look people get when their fuel supply is cut.

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      David Maddison

      Iran went off the radar during covid but their plans and that of radical islamists in general didn’t. They just continued their plans for world domination which had already been aided by the islamist-supporter Obama, with only a temporary cessation of support under Trump and with a resumption of support under the Biden regime (with Obama as shadow president).

      Obama’s mission was to weaken the United States and the West, empower Iran and radical islam in general (and remember he started his reign with an “apology tour” of islamic countries) and to enable a second islamic atomic bomb after Pakistan to “even things up”. And to aid that he gave Iran pallet loads of cash (literally) and also told Israel that if they attacked Iran’s nuclear facilities he would have US planes shoot down Israeli planes. Then a few months ago Biden (puppeteer Obama) gave Iran even more billions of dollars cash.

      For those of you who know their ancient History….

      There’s a reason the Left as part of their general corruption of the “education” system stopped the teaching of real history and replaced it with Western self-hatred.

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    The electric vehicle market is dead too…the manufacturer’s just don’t know it yet.
    A huge wave of investment revolt and bankruptcies has no choice but to hit this terrible technology that gives off vast amounts of radiation, is explosive and can catch fire in buildings and near other vehicles.
    Soon, the manufacturer’s emails and complaints will be scrutinized by lawsuits.
    The manufacturer had a choice in creating this mulfuncting product as government pressure and subsidies enticed them to invest in them.

    Good luck getting insurance when this breaks.

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      David Maddison

      Yesterday, I saw an advertisement for car insurance in which the company stated that they insure EVs, implying some won’t.

      Also, the defence of EV manufacturers against lawsuits for defective products is that they were pressured to do it by government to help with the “climate crisis” (sic) and will request government grant them immunity, just as the covid vaccine manufacturers did for their defective products.

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        Hanrahan

        The vaccine mob had explicit exemptions. I doubt any gov. will support an implicit exemption if there is heat being applied, but I can see where you are coming from.

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    Vene

    When there is too much war, idiotic lefties with their different agendas, economic hardship and so on, everyone needs a relief from a world time to time. Urge for going

    There really is an ‘end of an era’ -feeling in that video. Living in today’s upside-down-world is tiring, but this performance is like fresh air. Some thing’s truly were better in the past!

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      yarpos

      Even acknowledging I may have my rose coloured glasses on re the “good old days” my personal sense is that personkind may have passed its peak. I think we have the potential for much more, but culturally it may not be realized. I hope I am wrong and maybe the ARC initiative and similar thinkers can bring a new positive course.

      Like China, the world of humans seems to find new and creative ways to shoot itself in the foot.

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        Hanrahan

        Mankind will survive. Non-genderism is just a part of the four turnings.

        The Four Turnings, Explained
        What is the Fourth Turning? First, let’s look at Strauss and Howe’s theory of Turnings overall. They explain that each Turning lasts around 15 to 25 years (approximately the length of one of four phases of a human life—childhood, young adulthood, middle age, and elderhood. Each one is defined by the behaviors of the generations passing through them, specifically by how they react to societal changes and events.

        We are in the fourth turning ie the period of crisis.

        The four ages I prefer are:

        “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
        ― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain

        We are now in hard times which were created by weak men.

        But this will pass, after the coming storm the cycle will start again. The next cycle will have new strong-man heroes to replace Patten, Churchill et al. That the current weak men want to erase any memory of strong men tells the story.

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          GCRee

          I think that you’re being kind. I believe that right now we are only right at the beginning of the hard times created by weak men and things are going to get a lot harder before there is any resolution. In the fourth turning malaise is only stopped when there is a single collective focus on an outcome (ie war) but people are so polarized now I don’t think there is any joint coming together. And there is no money, nor the technical skills anymore, to ‘fix it’ with a collective effort.

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        Ronin

        In 1963, car owners manuals gave information on how to adjust the engine valve clearances, in 2023 the manual says ‘don’t drink the battery acid.

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    tonyb

    Australia sees a huge increase in its population

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12655811/Australian-housing-statistic-rental-vacancy-population-growth.html

    Can I ask if this increase is generally welcomed or is it being pushed through by your elites for their own reasons?

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      Greg in NZ

      Same here, Tony: New Zealanders departing by the plane-load (after the past 6 years of Ardernism) while plane-loads of hopefuls arrive… it’s part of zee Plan, jah! The number of people living in their vehicles grows every day – myself included now – due to outrageous rental costs and the madness of cities. 2023 – life’s a beach! 😃

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      Lawrie

      My niece is building a new house. While it is building they have bought a relocatable home that contains 3 bedrooms and the usual amenities. It is small but functional and costs about $40 K. 10 could fit on an acre so it seems to me that there is no housing shortage just fewer big houses. Whether the newcomers and indigenous house hunters would be satisfied with a 36 square metre home is another thing. The obvious answer is decentralization and the move to regional towns and cities. It would mean the environmental vandals would need to build dams and better infrastructure in country areas and accept that more voters could end up being conservative but thems the breaks.

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      David Maddison

      The following excerpt is from the Herald Sun but it’s PAYWALLED.

      Australia’s permanent migration intake could go as high as 600,000 in the next financial year as result of recent changes by the Albanese government. Last month, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese announced that 380,000 New Zealanders who have been in Australia for more than four years will be able to obtain citizenship.

      7 May 2023

      https://www.heraldsun.com.au › news

      Unfortunately many of the immigrants brought here under the “humanitarian program” (as opposed to many of those brought here because they have specific employable skills and are of European origin) have very little interest in assimilating or adopting Western values and many become life-long welfare recipients along with their descendants.

      Of course, as with the US opening up the southern border to import future Democrat voters, the current real purpose of Australia’s high migrant count is to create a permanent class of Labor Party voters.

      If Australia had a land border like the US I’m sure the Government would open that as well, just like the Biden regime.

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        Steve

        Losing your homeland to incoming foreigners, must be heartbreaking. Palestinians will empathise with your pain.

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          David Maddison

          Perhaps you need a history lesson, “Steve”.

          A crash course on history of the “PALESTINIAN STATE” (sic):

          1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.

          2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

          3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

          4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

          5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

          6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

          7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

          8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

          9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

          10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

          11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

          12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid Empire, not a Palestinian state.

          13. Before the Seleucid Empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

          14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

          15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

          16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

          17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

          18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

          19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

          20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE. 🤔

          And there has been a continuous settlement of Jews that entire time.

          And Israel mostly became attractive to those who identify as “Palestinian” after the state of Israel was re-established and Jews started developing the land which under Ottoman rule had become neglected and devoid of trees due to the Ottoman tree tax.

          Most Palestinans have origins in Egypt as is obvious from their names.

          And look at the birthplace of Palestinian “leadership” past and present.

          Yassir Arafat – Egypt
          Saeb Erekat – Jordan
          Faysal Al-Husayni – Iraq
          Sari Nusseibeh – Syria
          Mahmoud Al-Zahar – Egypt
          Nayef Hawatneh – Jordan

          And look where Israeli leadership, past and present were born.

          Benjamin Netanyahu – Israel
          Ehud Barak – Israel
          Ariel Sharon – Israel
          Ehud Olmert – Israel
          Ezer Weizman – Israel

          And Mark Twain wrote this in 1867:

          “ …[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse….A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action….We never saw a human being on the whole route….There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

          – 1867 (Quoted in Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad. London: 1881)

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            Old Goat

            David,
            The middle east is a mess of historical and religious sites which has been chosen to be the latest flashpoint . This is the second front in WW3 . Same players (all trying to pretend that they are not) and provocation everywhere . Big pile of dead people again , many of them innocent. We never learn.

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            Stuart

            Hi David,

            There was in the 12th Century BC an invasion of the southern Caananite coast by a people known as the Philistines (or Peleset in Egyptian). The territory conquered was centered around Gaza. They were constantly at war with the Israelites.
            They disappear from the records after the Neo-Assyrians took control in the 8th century BCE and the complete destruction of the region by the Babylonians in the 7th century BCE.
            The area was probably named Palestine as a reference to the Philistines.

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              tonyb

              As far as I can see the Palestinians are not the same as the Philistines

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines

              I can not see that Palestine existed as a state in the modern sense but if anyone knows differently please tell

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              Leo G

              named Palestine as a reference to the Philistines

              Who apparently were refugees from the collapse of the so-called Mycenaean civilisation.

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              TedM

              The area was probably named Palestine as a reference to the Philistines.”

              Correct Stuart, the Phillistines were known as the Palesad. The name Palestine was apparently derived from this.

              As David M says the Jews were present in the land throughout all that time with the exception of 70 years after Nebucadnezzar conquered the Southern Kingdom of Judah in 586 BC. Although presumably, a few Jews who escaped the conquest were still scattered across the land

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            Philip

            I was watching an Edward Said video today, he was opining on the loss of his homeland. Sure, he has a case but it’s a pretty volatile area Edward, and with that history, it’s a bit of overreach to claim steadfast homeland status. He never discussed that.

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          Adellad

          Historical ignorance is never pretty, especially when wedded to malevolent intent.

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          Ian George

          Didn’t the Jews lose their land to Islam after being there for 3000 years?

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          Ross

          The way that the Israelis turned that barren land into such a productive area from 1948 onwards was legendary in the agriculture irrigation arena. Not only to clean up saline water to use in irrigation, but also to conserve what was used. Previous to that time irrigation was by spray or flood. The Israelis pioneered trickle irrigation which reduces evaporation and also seepage from older methods significantly. Then they pioneered the monitoring of soil moisture to further make irrigation more efficient. A lot of that tech was then adopted for Australia agriculture because our conditions were so similar.

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            David Maddison

            And one of the most common trees in Israel is the Aussie eucalypt as conditions are so similar. Even though not native it is fast growing and is useful to reforest Israel apart from native pine trees. It is also being used to produce honey.

            https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-adopted-eucalyptus-trees-are-the-bees-knees/

            Israel’s eucalyptus trees some years ago suffered a disease that threatened to wipe them out.

            Vast numbers of the trees have also been planted in Israel because the Ottomans cut down most of the trees and the Israelis have been replanting them since 1948. Eucalyptus do extremely well in Israel due to a similar climate to Australia. Naturally, native species are planted as well.

            Some years ago the eucalyptus trees started dying because somehow a gall wasp was introduced from Australia which went out of control because of no natural predators. A joint effort between the Israelis and the CSIRO eventually found two parasitic wasps in Northern Australia that kill the gall wasp which bought the problem under control. One of those wasps is named after someone I know, Joe Krycer, the species being Selitrichodes kryceri, so I am one of the few people who knows someone who has an insect named after them!

            More of the story can be seen at the link below. Israelis are now helping out other countries as the gall wasp problem spreads worldwide.

            https://www.israel21c.org/israel-presents-eucalyptus-researchers-with-tree-saving-solution/

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              Annie

              I remember eucalyptus trees in Egypt when I was a child. There were some in the Western SBA (British Sovereign Base Area) of Episkopi in Cyprus too, in ‘Happy Valley’.

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        yarpos

        600k immigrants with no clue how to house or employ or assimilate them
        A “Voice” with no real consistent idea of function or limits
        Bulk “Renewables” with no clue how to make them work in a 1st world grid
        It’s nation building you know….in a Biden-esque kind of way

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      jelly34

      Hell man.We the people had NO F*^&ing idea.500,000 country shoppers and NO WHERE to house them.If you a leibor/greens politician,who cares.

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        el+gordo

        ‘ … plan to build 1.2million new homes over five years, starting July 1, 2024.’

        Too little, too late. Huston we have a problem.

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          Gary S

          Yes, by the time that date rolls around, we’ll have ANOTHER 400,000 to house. Chasing our tail.

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          Hanrahan

          We are not allowed to cut down trees for lumber and we need power to make bricks and plasterboard.

          Houston, what was that you said?

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      el+gordo

      ‘Can I ask if this increase is generally welcomed …’

      No, but there is bipartisan political agreement that we have to populate or perish.

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      Chris

      A small outer suburb in Perth WA which covered 256 hectares of horse/ lifestyle properties was rezoned without the landowners being told until the developers came knocking on their doors. The properties were sold for what was then a generous amount. Today most of the land is now pegged into 250 sqm lots. A shopping centre, a primary school and an Islamic college are being built. A stroll around the new shopping centre suggests a large percentage of the new residents are of Indian and African heritage. We are told there is a housing crisis, but it appears some of the housing is being sold overseas.

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    Greg in NZ

    TD01F was upgraded to TC LOLA, Cat 1, yesterday, north of Vanuatu, drifting southwestwards. Why the first troppo of the season was christened with an ‘L’ and not an ‘A’ is something only Fiji Met can explain in these days of transition: “she looks like a woman but talks like a man… Lola”.

    Waiting on the Zero Zealots to commence screaming L.O.L.A. formed outside of the offical ‘cyclone season’ due to mankind’s evil ways, yet it’s only 10 days away and, besides, she/he/it looks to be a short-lived disturbance (though BoM’s model has its remains drifting towards the QLD/NSW coast later this week).

    Meanwhile, it snowed again in Australia; NZ’s in for MORE snow; then ANOTHER cold change for Australia… Carbon [sic] causes everyfink, according to zombies.

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    Neville

    Dr Roger Pielke tells us there could be a much cheaper way to fix SLR using geo engineering.
    That’s if you trust the UNI of Colorado’s 3 + mm /year SLR rise since 1993 using satellite data.
    But Tide Gauges only show about 1 to 1.5 mm /year and Bolt’s recent talk with Daniel Fitzhenry shows very little SLR at Fort Denison NSW since 1914 using our BOM data.

    Here’s Dr Pielke’s link and you can just read the summary and also read the 28 comments as well. BTW I don’t think we are suffering any dangerous SLR and the global coastal land recovery studies show an increase NOT a DECREASE over the last 40 years.
    I hope Jo has the time to read Dr Pielke’s article.

    https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-stop-sea-level-rise

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      Neville

      Dr Judith Curry also found no dangerous SLR in her latest special report and she links to many other studies.
      Also the AMO is nearing the end of its warm trend and when the cool phase starts we should see cooler conditions for the NH and Greenland.

      https://judithcurry.com/2018/11/27/special-report-on-sea-level-rise/

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        Neville

        Here again is Andrew Bolt’s talk with Daniel Fitzhenry trying to explain the SLR at Fort Denison NSW since 1914.
        And he uses the BOM data and finds little to worry about and he states that this tide gauge data is more accurate than Satellite data.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mjOmsqIibk&t=299s

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          Graeme#4

          The latest SLR satellites, Sentinel-6, have a combined standard uncertainty of 3.35cm. And they are travelling 1330 km above our oceans, trying to measure the SLR to millimetre accuracy. They simply are not fit for purpose.
          FWIW, the Fremantle tidal gauge, one of the two oldest gauges in Australia, shows an average SLR of 1.7mm/year over the last 120 years. This gauge has only been moved about 100 metres from its original position.

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      David Maddison

      This all comes down to the idea that warmists are “staticists” who believe that the earth is unchanging and always has been the same and always will be.

      Their scientific ignorance is profound and civilisation-destroying.

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        David Maddison

        The idea that the earth and universe is static is a very primitive one and articulated by Aristotle in “In the Heavens” 350BCE.

        http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/heavens.1.i.html

        For in the whole range of time past, so far as our inherited records reach, no change appears to have taken place either in the whole scheme of the outermost heaven or in any of its proper parts.

        It is only in the last 100 years or so that the ideas of Alfred Wegener (1880-1930), a real climatologist, geologist, geophysicist, meteorologist and polar researcher came to be accepted that the earth is not static. Among other ideas he conceived of continental drift which led to plate tectonics.

        However, as early as 1840 Louis Agassiz (1807-1873) hypothesised that much of North America was once buried under glacial ice up to 3km deep and that climate must change.

        Milutin Milanković (1879-1958) also discovered natural cycles in the climate.

        Warmists have to do a lot of catching up with modern thinking.

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      Honk R Smith

      Hmm … here’s a photo of the site of the battle of Thermopylae 480 BC (referenced above).
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae#/media/File:Thermopylae_ancient_coastline_large.jpg

      The highway is where the beach was before the Spartans had phalanxes of cars.
      They tell us the beach is gone because of ‘fluvial deposits’.
      I guess we haven’t un-sequestered enough CO2 to make up for fluviation.
      SLR could overwhelm us at any moment, if we don’t reverse back past the Bronze Age and return to hunting and gathering.
      Actually just gathering since we won’t be allowed to eat meat or have weapons.

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        Neville

        Thanks Honk and the landing site where Claudius invaded Britain is now about 3.5 klms inland and the port site was only discovered recently.
        Also SLs at Sydney NSW were about 1.5 metres higher 4,000 years ago according to their ABC Catalyst program.
        Of course the left wing loonies happily ignore data and evidence and prefer their delusional fantasy world.

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      Kevin T Kilty

      Surely this is a spoof. Here is the conclusion

      This idealized analysis presents a highly simplified way to look at the stopping of sea level rise by converting sea water into snow… The idealized analysis presented here finds that stopping sea level rise would require an effort comparable in scope to California’s agricultural irrigation infrastructure. Total costs are highly sensitive to the ability of an industrial-scale snowmaking infrastructure to realize economies of scale…at significant economies of scale stopping sea level rise by converting sea water to permanent ice sees benefits far exceed costs.

      On the other hand, when time to replace infrastructure comes around…like every 100 years or so, move further from the shore. Little money spent that wouldn’t have been spent otherwise.

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    David Maddison

    Jason Wood MP posted this with a picture of Albanese and an Albatross.

    What is the difference between Albanese and an Albatross? One is a magnificent bird with the largest wingspan, the other? The comparison is being raised due to the PMs frequent flying – now being dubbed Albotross. This time he’s cancelled Parliament to fly off to Washington for President Joe Biden’s VIP dinner.

    This trip will be his 16th international trip in just 17 months as PM!

    Why solve Australia’s problems when you could just fly away instead?

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    David Maddison

    I will soon be sitting an exam for my amateur radio license (Australia).

    Speaking to various people, very few have actually heard of “ham” radio as it is colloquially called.

    Back in the day before the demise of shortwave radio (in the English speaking world, Chicomms now dominate the shortwave bands) due to the Internet I thought the concept of amateur radio was reasonably well known.

    Nowadays it has a new lease of life with a variety of digital modes and extremely low power modes enabling extraction of digital signal data from “below the noise floor”.

    I am curious as to what, if any, are people’s perceptions of ham radio.

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      I know ham radio by name but have nor further idea about.
      Myself I moderate my broadcast via commercial free “city radio” in Germany – Wiesbaden on FM, 92,5, DAB+ and internet since 1999. It’s a citizen radio, where everybody is invited and able to broadcast. (radio-rheinwelle.de)

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        Further explanation, for broadcating via that private, non commercial radio station you have to be member of the registered association and pay a monthly fee, or are a public group f.e. NGO, another public association representing f.e. Sinti/Roma, the Assyrian Voice, or, shorth said a minotity group etc.

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      Graeme#4

      I’ve given up my ham licence. Ham radio was once a “home brew” approach where you designed and built your own gear and antennas, and you could communicate over distances that were difficult at that time. Now it seems like it’s just a plug-n-play system. Hams were never viewed favourably in the electronics industry.

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      Gee Aye

      Several VK’s in my family

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      robert rosicka

      I’m told that the old single side band CB radio’s are highly sought after by truckers because the cops can’t listen in to what they are talking about .

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      MichaelB

      I’ve always been a radio junkie, but never had a Ham licence.

      In fact this month I designed and prototyped a simple AM set that is intended to be easily built by young teenagers (with assistance) using the TA7264 chip and a BC549. Some of you will understand… I’m pleased that it works fairly well.

      Hope to get my grandkids interested.

      p.s. It’s hard to get decent tuning capacitors these days (I mean the old type with metal vanes).

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      John Connor II

      Almost got into it back in the day. It seems to be mainly preppers these days.

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      Lance

      I helped my brother set up a 40 meter band converted Command surplus transmitter in 1967. Erected a dipole antenna. His first contact was Denver, Colorado, from Oklahoma. Got a QSL confirmation in the mail a week later. Morse Code.
      He has a Yaesu TDX transmitter now, but rarely uses it.

      I never got into it, myself, but it is a rewarding undertaking. Meet people from all over the world.

      Best wishes on your endeavour.

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      Len

      Didn’t Nellie Ohr have a Ham Radio licence?

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      Glenn

      Hi David,

      I’ve had my ” Ham ” Licence since 1993…best thing I ever did to occupy the mind and keep in contact with like minded individuals all over the planet. It is a hobby/pastime that can be carried out from home, at all hours of the day/night or you can get out and about if that interests you. From memory, you are into a bit of bushwalking…well, with an Amateur Licence, you can combine both if you so desire. Good luck with the Exams…you should ace it actually !

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      Russell

      Don’t think you’ll have much trouble passing AOCP exam, David.
      Your stories in the “comic book” show a great appreciation of the field.
      But beware – discussion on the Amateur bands these days is almost exclusively health related.
      We have all seriously aged and most of us have been inflicted with some disease or other.
      Good luck – at least you don’t have to do that pesky Morse stuff anymore.

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      Kevin T Kilty

      I held technician, general, and extra class licenses for 10 years, but since I had just about no interest in chewing the rag with folks ’till the wee hours I didn’t renew. There are a number of license-free, low power bands to experiment with. I’m happy there.

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      GDX

      David – ‘ham’ since the 80s. Physicist, systems engineer, and space systems developer.
      Chat with VKs and ZLs (Oz, NZ) regularly; usually with handheld radio and using digital modes via internet; or via high frequency/shortwave digital or voice modes with no internet. That’s the preferred method. Virginia to VK-land, no problem.
      Hams are well experienced with solar effects and cyclic events and impacts on the ionosphere. Plus weather, of course.
      Start with simple techniques; and let the hobby grow as far as you like. Many Ph.Ds in ham radio working on engineering solutions in a variety of areas.
      I’m retired; as are many hams; but lots of emphasis on getting kids involved. It’s much of what we do to help kick off engineering interest and careers.

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    Neville

    Their ABC radio Melbourne are having an enthusiastic YAP about EVs this morning and how exciting these expensive TOXIC, dangerous disasters are for our future.
    So stupid that I had to give up listening to their delusional BS and FRAUD.
    AGAIN, why are we funding these crazy donkeys?

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    Neville

    Ken Stewart’s article about the world’s biggest thermometer is very informative about the much higher SLs during the Holocene climate optimum.
    And co2 levels then were about 275 ppm and of course just another problem for the silly left wing extremists.

    https://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/2021/08/23/the-worlds-biggest-thermometer/

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    John Connor II

    Heart Attacks In Fully-Vaccinated Australia Hit ‘Highest Level Ever Recorded,’ Doctors Baffled

    Cardiac arrests are at the “highest level ever recorded” in Australia as the nation grapples with the disastrous effects of the government mandated Covid vaccination roll-out.

    The situation has become so dire that health officials have launched a “critical awareness campaign”.

    https://twitter.com/jamiemcintyre21/status/1715978634526159332

    Is your doctor baffled by the bleeding obvious?
    Ask your doctor if you need a new doctor.😁

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      David Maddison

      Gosh, what could it be….?

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      Old Goat

      John,
      The problem is finding one who doesn’t think the vaccine is “safe and effective” or “a necessary risk”. What do you think would happen to someone who doesn’t follow the orthodoxy ? Recent events would suggest deregistration and cancelling . Totally Orwellian .

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    John Connor II

    Official Data Shows Every Single Patient Vaccinated at Clinic ‘Died Within Weeks’

    Investigators have discovered that every single patient who received a Covid mRNA vaccine from one clinic died suddenly shortly after the jab, within the same timeframe.
    Investigative reporter Liz Gunn tracked down patients who had received Covid jabs from the same clinic in New Zealand.
    Disturbingly, she traced all 30 patients who were vaccinated by the clinic on the same day and discovered that every single one had dropped dead around the same time.

    Before the recently held elections, Gunn was contacted by a whistle-blower and given documentation showing that tens of thousands of New Zealanders’ deaths are linked to the injections.
    “This is just one of the sites recording this type of information in New Zealand,” she said.
    “We don’t know how many further databases like this are in the country,” she added.
    She explained that because the number of deaths is usually less than the number of those suffering from ill effects of the injections, then the extrapolation of the numbers that have been injured and killed “starts to become, frankly, eye-watering.”
    The data shows that there are clusters of deaths.
    “People who attended the same jab site, and were jabbed one after the other, at consecutive times on the same day,” Gunn said.
    “We saw their jab date and we saw their date of death.”

    https://rumble.com/v3qp8bu-m.o.a.r-update.html

    Roll up your sleeves. The experiment isn’t finished yet.
    But the results so far aren’t good.

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    John Connor II

    (Might be) Monday entertainment: workplace clothing colour choice guide

    https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_s2v9xp5tvd1y8aven.mp4

    You have chosen….poorly. 😆😆

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    John Connor II

    High steaks society: who are the 12% of people consuming half of all beef in the US?

    One of the biggest drivers of the climate crisis, accounting for a third of the planet’s greenhouse gas emissions, is food production, with meat – particularly beef – at the top of the list.

    The US is the biggest consumer of beef in the world, but, according to new research, it’s actually a small percentage of people who are doing most of the eating. A recent study shows that on any given day, just 12% of people in the US account for half of all beef consumed in the US.

    “It may be that some of those 12% don’t realize the impacts that beef has on their health or the environment,” said study author Diego Rose, professor and director of nutrition at Tulane University. “The concern is, on a usual basis, are you eating a disproportionate amount?”

    Research has shown that beef production, which goes hand in hand with deforestation to create grazing land for cows, is responsible for over 4.2bn metric tons of global carbon emissions. Consuming beef is up to 10 times more impactful than chicken, and over 50 times that of beans. Numerous health studies have shown risks of elevated heart disease from red meat.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/high-steaks-society-12-people-100014867.html

    All BS!.
    All the lies exposed yesterday, but here’s the link again.

    https://youtu.be/0b8Osg5MbfE?si=-d5TDZrF-6D5QYWs

    It’s a really good informative video, by an Aussie too!
    Meat vs plant diet, soil carbon storage, brain fog and lots more.
    Must watch.

    I eat around 2kg of meat a week. 50g is just a mouse nibble.

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      Lance

      I’m having beef stroganoff on Tuesday with neighbours. 1 Kg of rib eye steak for that.
      Wasn’t aware I was 12% of anything. Just a normal meal.
      WEF can eat all the bugs they wish, but my “go to” is quality beef. No bugs for me.

      Nobody gets between me and a mesquite smoked T-Bone steak. WEF can go pound sand.

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      Old Goat

      John,
      Pete Evans got cancelled for promoting the Paleo Diet . Research now vindicates him somewhat . Obesity is now a huge issue and we have given up on trying to stop it and instead promote it . “Big is beautiful” is dangerous and misleading as obesity is a killer .

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        KP

        ““Big is beautiful” is dangerous and misleading as obesity is a killer .”

        You say it like being a killer is a bad thing.. The people behind this are all for a reduced population & are working on multiple fronts.

        Nowadays it’s probably safer driving on the roads than eating, the opposite of the 1950s.

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    John Connor II

    CDC Warns Pet DOGS Could Start Spreading New Deadly Flesh-Eating Parasite to Humans in the US

    Health officials are worried that a deadly flesh-eating parasite could start being spread from pet dogs to people in the US.

    Leishmaniasis is a parasitic disease carried by sand flies that, until now, had only been detected in the US among people returning from countries where it’s endemic in the Middle East, Asia, Africa and Latin America.

    Now researchers at the CDC have warned they are detecting the infection – which causes sufferers to erupt in sores – in people with no travel history to those countries, suggesting it’s spreading domestically.

    The same diabolical script led to a horrific culling of millions of mink in Denmark in 2020… Thousands of “Covid positive” hamsters in Hong Kong… And the culling of cats and dogs belonging to “infected” individuals in China.

    https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD1086269.pdf

    Fear not. Dr. Hotez is working on a vaxx. 😎

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      Ross

      Yep, just like his Hookworm vaccine. An expensive solution for a condition easily and cheaply treated by anthelmintics (or even IVM? ) that he’s been supposedly working on for years. That guy could even be worse than Fauci.

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      David Maddison

      Don’t worry. There’s an mRNA vaccine for that, or soon will be.

      Just in time for the US Election.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9806502/

      Korean J Parasitol. 2022 Dec; 60(6): 379–391. Published online 2022 Dec 22. doi: 10.3347/kjp.2022.60.6.379
      PMCID: PMC9806502PMID: 36588414

      Leishmania Vaccines: the Current Situation with Its Promising Aspect for the Future

      mRNA vaccines
      An effective vaccine both should boost the natural innate and adaptive immune response and induce a memory immune response that provides long-term protection against infection. Recent research reveals that mRNA vaccines significantly enhance these properties [98]. The mRNA platform aslo allows simultaneous expression of multiple proteins, eliciting immunity against different epitopes from different targets [99]. In a mice model, Duthie et al. [100] observed a significant reduction in the parasite burden in the liver by administering F2-RNA as a prime vaccination and then boosting with the recombinant LEISH-F2 protein. RNA vaccine technology has the potential to offer an effective and practical solution to vaccine development. Development of RNA vaccine requires only knowledge of the target gene sequence, eliminating the need for pathogen culture or scale-up recombinant protein production [101].

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      David Maddison

      Why use a cheap, safe drug when you can use an expensive dangerous one?

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33338468/

      Ivermectin presents effective and selective antileishmanial activity in vitro and in vivo against Leishmania infantum and is therapeutic against visceral leishmaniasis

      Thiago A R Reis et al. Exp Parasitol. 2021 Feb.

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      Honk R Smith

      Yes, few are aware of the dangers of dog petting*.

      https://youtube.com/shorts/TKQcAzBpKew?si=QwqVJND_I7y66gwk

      *WARNING: do not watch if easily microtriggered.

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    Hydrogen fuel option…?
    Ijust came across a video of someone refueling their Hydrogen fuel cell car (Toyota Murai ?)
    https://youtube.com/shorts/fMQzaIezYXE?si=Tna16ZTaRuxU-i-_
    I noticed that the price he pays is us$36 per kg !
    With the energy content of H2 at about 33kWh per kg, and fuel cell efficiency at <80%, …
    ….that suggests his energy cost is us$1.30 per kwh !
    And with approx 5km per kWh consumption, his fuel cost is us$0.26 per km ($0.50 per mile ?)
    If that were Australia , it would be near Au$0.50 per km !
    .. No thank you !……..even at todays hyped diesel costs, my fuel cost is $0.15 per km

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      Lance

      H2 is an ignorant fool’s idea for transportation fuel.
      The electrolyzer efficiency to produce the H2 is at best 58%. If solar powered, at 20% CF, the net is < 12%. Wind 17%.
      The energy to compress and distribute H2 at 300 Bar or more is considerable. Half the energy of the H2, so 6 to 9% eff.
      The danger of leaks, explosions, and fires, while using H2 is significant.

      Liquid hydrocarbon fuels are amazingly well suited to the temperatures, storage and transport risks, and energy density.

      Imagine a drunken bloke at 2 AM trying to connect a 300 Bar H2 hose to his car, or a significant impact accident. All that will remain is a crater in the roadway and total destruction in a 25 meter radius.

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        John Connor II

        Have you told this to global giants like Toyota, Honda, Hyundai and JCB, who are heavily into Hydrogen and already on the market?
        Poor old VW (and others) poo-pooing Hydrogen and pushing EV’s instead are now all in serious financial straits, so go figure.
        Yes there are cost and safety issues as it’s in its infancy but they’re being rapidly eliminated.
        Swappable Hydrogen fuel cell cars are here and can utilise existing infrastructure.

        How about a drunk guy filling his ICE car at 2am spraying petrol around who lights a fag?
        Or the dumb blonde pouring petrol into her Tesla?
        Or the guy playing with his phone that blew up the BP servo?

        The “experts” said the world was flat and there a need for maybe 6 computers in the world.
        Famous wrong calls.

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          Your idea of “heavily into the market”…. must be different to mine.
          Fuel cell vehicles are still in the “ prototype or pilot”…phase with very few available to the public, and dispite being heavily susbsidised by the manufacturers ( IE,.each one.sold at a huge loss !), they are still rediculously expensive.
          And remember, the only commercially available hydrogen supply is still Fossil fuel sourced.
          Further,..dispite using the well established hydrogen supply ( from gas reforming) the cost, as i pointed to above, is rediculously high.
          But the worst point of the whole hydrogen fuel idea, is how utterly wasteful of energy it is, no matter how the hydrogen is sourced !

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    John Connor II

    Scientists Just Came Up With a Wild Idea For Making Oxygen on Mars

    Desert-dwelling bacteria that feed on sunlight, slurp up carbon dioxide, and emit oxygen could be incorporated into paint that supplements the air in a habitat on Mars.

    It’s called Chroococcidiopsis cubana, and scientists have developed a biocoating that emits measurable amounts of oxygen on a daily basis while reducing the amount of carbon dioxide in the air around it. This has implications, not just for space travel but here at home on Earth, too, according to a team led by microbiologist Simone Krings of the University of Surrey in the UK.

    Chroococcidiopsis is a weird little genus of beasties. If there’s a place on Earth you think no life could possibly find purchase, you’re likely to find a species of this bacterium there. It harnesses a strange kind of photosynthesis that can make the most of extremely low-light conditions, with a back-up survival mechanism for even darker places. It’s been found in the pitch blackness of ultra-deep caves, and in Earth’s lower crust beneath the ocean floor.

    Chroococcidiopsis cubana sometimes lives in deserts, in conditions not dissimilar to those on Mars. And, like other cyanobacteria, its metabolism has some desirable properties. The bacterium takes in CO2, which it fixes to transform via photosynthesis into organic compounds, releasing oxygen as part of the process.

    https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/spectrum.01870-23

    “Just came up with”?
    Or plagiarised the 2000 Val Kilmer film Red Planet. 😎

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    David Maddison

    The Elasmotherium, one species of which was also known as Siberian Unicorn, was a genus of giant rhinoceros that lived until 39,000 years ago. There is cave art depicting them. One species was thought to have a giant horn, hence its “Siberian unicorn” common name.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasmotherium?wprov=sfla1

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    Recently came across a couple of phases that threw me right back into my past lives! “Unleash the Archers” is the best band name I have ever come across, and reading up on the 16th century I came across people saying, ‘people should be imprisoned, or sent to the galleys,’ for some transgression. Sending people to the galleys, will they ever bring that back? It has such a ring to it.

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      Furiously Curious
      October 23, 2023 at 1:57 pm · Reply
      Recently came across a couple of phases that threw me right back into my past lives! “Unleash the Archers”

      Noooooooo ! 😱😱……please not that radio sitcom !

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    el+gordo

    Data manipulation the story behind Australia warming, by Geoff Sherrington.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/10/22/where-is-the-alleged-australian-warming/

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    R.B

    Interesting from the telegraph.

    George Orwell was a “sadistic, misogynistic, homophobic, sometimes violent” man who wrote women out of his story, according to a biographer of his wife.

    Anna Funder said that Orwell was a brilliant writer but a complicated man whose personal life was at odds with the “decency” of his writing.

    She has produced a biography of Eileen O’Shaugnessy, Orwell’s wife – highlighting the contributions O’Shaugnessy made to his…

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/15/george-orwell-anna-funder-biography-of-eileen-o-shaugnessy/
    Pay walled but Ben Bartee summarises it well

    It’s hard to follow what narrative this Telegraph twat is even trying to paint. I’ve read 1984 multiple times. I literally can’t think of any misogyny or even any opaque passages that might be interpreted as misogynistic in the novel. Winston’s short-lived romance with Julia is more of a plot device to get him arrested and tortured than anything else. It’s certainly not a treatise on gender relations.

    On that score, the Red Guard Telegraph girl, Anita Singh — who will only ever gain notoriety for herself by tearing down her literary betters — doesn’t do much to illuminate Orwell’s purported misogyny. Her entire source for the accusation is the biographer of Orwell’s dead wife, who perished all the way back in 1945! There is no firsthand material – a quote or a passage – attributed to Orwell proving his “misogyny.” Which is odd for as prolific a writer as him; one would suppose if his misogyny were so metastatic, it might have appeared in any of the volumes of his work that are publicly available.

    https://armageddonprose.substack.com/p/is-this-irony-corporate-media-rewrites
    This gem from the Times article sums it up
    “She added: “That’s a very curious thing that’s going on. He’s not ‘a man of his time’*, it’s not to be excused and thought of as ‘back in the day”
    It was what was going about him in his socialist world, postwar Britain, and the USSR.

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    Dennis

    Daily Telegraph today there is a half page advertisement recalling solar system battery storage systems, reason given potential fires.

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    John Connor II

    JC2 tip of the day

    Every time you have a question and really need help, post it, then log into another account and reply to it with an irritatingly incorrect answer. People don’t care about helping others but they LOVE correcting others. Works 100% of the time.

    Never happens here, but.😁

    /slight sarc

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      skepticynic

      Well John it’s working for you today.

      Cunningham’s Law states “the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it’s to post the wrong answer.”. The concept is named after Ward Cunningham, the inventor of wiki software.

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    David Maddison

    Sara Huckabee Sanders, Governor of Arkansas bans woke terms.

    Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders has signed an executive order banning woke terms like ‘pregnant people’, ‘human milk’, ‘birth-giver’, ‘chestfeeding’ and other terms she deems sexist from being used in state government.

    Instead, state agencies will be required to use the phrases ‘breast milk,’ ‘birth mother’ and ‘breastfeeding’.

    “Today we’re taking a stand against woke nonsense,” Governor Sanders said.

    “What frankly started as a fad among a few grad students has seeped down into corporations, the health care industry and increasingly the state government. It’s demeaning to women and it needs to stop.”

    See:

    https://youtu.be/5S5cX3nzfyE

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    robert rosicka

    Just heard on Skynews that businesses now have to report the carbon emmisions of their employees travel while at work but also if I heard right going to and from work !

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    Hanrahan

    “It’s dry all right” said young O’Neil
    With which astute remark
    He squatted down upon his heel
    And chewed a piece of bark

    And so around the chorus ran
    “It’s keepin’ dry no doubt”
    “We’ll all be rooned” said Hanrahan
    “Before the year is out”

    We have had NO rain here since April, 4th. Boy! Has my bore shown it’s worth.

    Before sinking the bore [more in hope than expectation] my qtr acre block was established weeds. A lot of work, money and water later I have most of the back yard with established grass and the weeds under control. If relying on town water I would be losing it. The pump gives a lot of water and I seem to be using it for an hour or so each day. I’m happy to water by hand so I’m well tanned so there is a healthy up side to this.

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    Hanrahan

    Why do you ask? Want to fact check me?

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      Annie

      Why assume that it’s for fact-checking? I’d assumed just basic interest in this wildly variable country.

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        Hanrahan

        Annie, I cop a lot of flack here because there are a couple of topics where I don’t go with the groupthink. I am NOT anti American, for example, and that’s a big No, No.

        Had you asked I would have simply replied “Townsville” or, as our northern cousins say “Brownsville”.

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        skepticynic

        Yours is the correct assumption, thanks Annie.

        Maybe I was a bit abrupt. I probably should have introduced my query with a, “Just out of interest…”

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    another ian

    A CO2 capture pipeline gets thumbs down

    “Navigator CO2 Ventures cancels carbon-capture pipeline project in US Midwest”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/10/23/navigator-co2-ventures-cancels-carbon-capture-pipeline-project-in-us-midwest/

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