And you thought I was being satirical, but no, it’s just today’s installment of two-star climate porn from The Guardian.
What the journalist didn’t mention was that one degree of warming will save 166,000 lives a year, but maybe kill one more person per annum from amebic meningoencephalitis.
Let’s spend a trillion dollars:
How the climate crisis is fueling the spread of a brain-eating amoeba
Naegleria fowleri grows in warm fresh water, making it well-suited to proliferate as temperatures rise in the US
Katherine Gammon, The Guardian
Naegleria grows best in warm waters – temperatures above 30C, and can tolerate temperatures of up to 46C, says Charles Gerba, a microbiologist at the University of Arizona. That makes it well-suited to spread in a warming climate.
“It likes warm surface waters during the summer in the northern latitudes,” he says.
The amoeba causes an illness called primary amebic meningoencephalitis, and while getting sick is rare – between 2012 to 2021, only 31 cases were reported in the US, according to the Centers for Disease Control – it’s incredibly lethal. According to the CDC, only four people out of 151 have survived the infection between 1962 and 2020.
And the rate of increase so far, with all those emissions, is nothing:
A 2021 study showed that even though the rate of infections hasn’t budged, the amoeba is moving from southern states to midwestern areas.
Which will it be? We could try to change the global temperature or we could ask kids to wear nose-clips:
As experts continue to observe these changes, Gerba recommends some precautions for swimming in natural fresh water. It’s best to avoid putting your head underwater to prevent water getting into your nose in warm freshwater areas. Another option is to wear nose clips, especially for children, he says.
Doing feet-first leaps into very warm lakes in summer will increase the risk of forcing the wrong kind of water up your nose. In other good rules for life, don’t do nasal aspiration with warm lake water.
Previous cases have also shown people contracting the infection through contaminated water used for backyard slip-n-slides, or performing nasal irrigation.
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Journalist just lie by omission.
Does that brain-eating amoeba selectively attack self-styled “climate scientists” and “climate communicators”
Brain damage seems fairly prevalent in those circle.. maybe its the actual cause of all the rampant climate hysteria.?
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You beat me to it. 😁
I think it’s too late for Biden.
Climate change got him years ago. 😂
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In a nutshell …. Yes! It’s in the dew they lap every evening.
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I must say that this is one of the more crazy articles that probably is true. The evidence of something impacting on the brain is quite clear as people actually think more wind turbines and solar panels will change the temperature. So the real reason alarmist have such crazy ideas is that their brains have been affected by these amoeba
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Quite right Ziggy!!
Chris Bowen has obviously contracted the very latest, more aggressive strain of this virus.
He really should visit the UK where it would appear a vaccine has been developed. Nobody knows if it’s effective but keep an eye on their new PM & see if she survives the other gathering strains of the virus which will seek to eradicate her!
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It is true. The kayak and paddle-boarding community were shocked a couple of years ago when someone died after visiting the U.S. National Whitewater Center in Charlotte. Those of us who live near geothermal areas know not to put your head under in hot pools but no one ever considers not doing so in warm lakes and rivers.
Blue-green algal blooms from warm water and excessive nutrient inflows are an even bigger problem.
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That’s simply not true that no one ever considers not swimming in warm lakes and rivers.
There has always been a risk of contamination of algae, amoeba, protozoa etc. In warm water.
This used to be common knowledge before the dumbing down of the education system.
Many years ago, long before the anthropogenic global warming fraud became trendy, on a holiday to NZ I was warned not to swim in geothermal or public pools because of the risk, at that time of acquiring amoebic meningitis.
It is still problem in NZ. E.g. see https://www.healthed.govt.nz/resource/keep-your-head-above-water
Now, NZ is an extremely woke and dumbed-down country, but they don’t even mention “climate change” as the reason for amoebic meningitis.
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With the masked sheeple sanitising their hands 10 times a day as part of their new cult ritual it should be easy to persuade them to shower in Dettol before and after water exposure in order to protect themselves…
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Hey hey, just letting y’all know, not all of us are waffling, headscarf-wearing Jacindaphiles. A recent poll had her sagging at (about) 35% popularity, hence her hitching a ride on Albanese’s *fossil fuel* plane to London, then Trudeau’s *private* jet to New York, while she sent the boyfriend back with Albo. Besides, we’re ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, left? I mean, right?
Princess Hypocrisy will be on shaky ground if/when she returns to Godzone – and that’s not even considering the rumbles underneath Lake Taupo.
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you ARE kidding, right? we in Be BiSealand are just swooning over her. ( sarc) Sunday morning Politics with…. girl from Scotland in charge ..( HIT the RED BUTTON ) and later in day, same procedure.
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Wot? Just shower in Dettol? need to drink the stuff as well. Donald told them!. Personally If I had to, I’d rather yuse Rhubarb 😉 .
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And in Australia, warm lakes, usually in the north of Queensland, often have much bigger and immediate things to worry about than amoebas !
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Go Ahead, Climate Scientists, Make Our Day
21st September 2022 Tony Thomas
Some stories I come across are so weird that I don’t know how to write them. No-one will believe I am serious. For example, in 1974 I attended a talk by Australia’s Deputy Prime Minister Dr Jim Cairns at the ANU in which he called for the abolition of money and for Australia to return to barter along pre-Sumerian lines. He was in love at the time with a stunning Eurasian lass. I’m sure the Treasury and Reserve Bank were not in favour of a barter economy. It was 39 years before I mustered the chutzpah to actually report on Dr Jim’s proposal.
These days “climate science” has equivalent oddities. Try page 1 of the PhD thesis of psychotherapist Dr Sally Gillespie, of Psychologists for a Safe Climate. It’s about the dream that turned her into a climate activist:
These examples help me now to write about the recent peer-reviewed climate paper of three senior Australian-New Zealand climate professors titled “The Tragedy of Climate Change Science.” It’s in the learned journal Climate & Development and has undergone the rigours of peer review.
What’s in it? The professors call on their fellow climate researchers to go on strike from climate doomism and also scuttle the plans for a Seventh IPCC Report. This strategy, they imagine, will force Western governments to stop their shilly-shallying about emissions and finally get serious about the Year Zero agenda – not that China, India and Russia would cooperate. As winter looms, Germany and the UK are frantically back-pedalling to fossil fuels, so our Antipodean climate savants must be crying themselves to sleep
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I would have thought that heated pools and hot tubs, badly maintained were the biggest danger for amoeba in the Midwest. We had a lovely swimming pool a few years ago, and maintaining it was good old fashioned biological warfare.
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Obviously the US con-gress has already been infected.
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I wonder how many other scare campaigns they have up their sleeve?
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A Guardian journalist called Gammon!
When used as an adjective, it means “not true” or “fake”. As a verb, it means “to lie or fib” or “to kid”.
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Well this brain eating ‘thingy’ has certainly affected all of the so called World Leaders. As their brains have turned to mush.
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That will only be a problem on the day when you find a bit of water outside in the UK that is anywhere near 30 degrees C. There must be another cause, as millions of people have already been infected with brain-eating amoebas. The problem is severe amongst Climate Scientists.
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Don’t climate scientists have to attend conferences and boondoggles in warm climes such as:
2022 – The 27th session of the Conference of the Parties (COP 27) to the UNFCCC will take place in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt
2023 – The 28th session of the Conference of the Parties (COP 28) to the UNFCCC is scheduled to take place from 6-17 November 2023. It will take place in the United Arab Emirates
Plenty of opportunities to pick up some exotic diseases (and not just the one mentioned in the above article)
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“The problem is severe amongst Climate Scientists.”
Almost a pandemic, it seems….. we need to develop a forced “vaccine” !
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They wont need a vaccine, they may be able to re purpose that horse worming paste the same as some one did for river blindness.
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Yes, obviously the Guardian writers have caught it, but I also concur with Simon. Up here in tropical NE Australia, every time there is a flood the health authorities have to issue a warning: “do not play in floodwaters” for the same reason, as well as the risk of being swept away by concentrated surges. The volumes of water are such that storm-water systems end up being open drains up to 100m wide, retention basins etc. If the power goes off, (and sometimes when it doesn’t) sewerage systems back up and overflow into storm-water drains. There is also dodgy stuff in rivers when there is no flood, hence the term “Ross River Fever”.
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Climate Change and the Resolutely Blind Eye
20th September 2022 Peter Smith
Graham Lloyd, the environment editor at The Australian, has a moderately good record of digging up politically incorrect material which dispels this or that building block of the climate scam. He’s never shy of reporting increased coral on the GBR, for instance. I’m not sure how he survives. Glad he does. Sure, his newspaper is part of the problem, but any port in a storm.
This time the ‘wayward’ material is a study which gathers and analyses recent evidence on the effect of climate change on extreme weather events and, also, on agricultural productivity. It’s by some Italian scientists led by Gianluca Alimonti, from the Italian National Institute for Nuclear Physics and the University of Milan. The study can be found in The European Physical Journal Plus. It was published online on January 13, 2022. Its conclusions undermine the daily propaganda that passes for news on the mainstream media. No, that flooding is not unusual; nor is that bushfire; nor that hurricane; nor that drought.
Finally, from the authors’ concluding remarks (emphasis added):
Since its origins the human species has been confronted with the negative effects of climate …Today we are facing a warm phase and, for the first time, we have the monitoring capabilities to evaluate its effects. Fearing a climate emergency without this being supported by data means altering the framework of priorities with negative effects that could prove deleterious to our ability to face challenges of the future, squandering natural and human resources – We need to remind ourselves that addressing climate change is not an end in itself, and that climate change is not the only problem that the world is facing.
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So to avoid this 1 degree temperature thing and its potential fatal consequences I should move southwards from the Sunshine Coast to Coffs Harbour?
Or I could move even further south to Melbourne and be safe (but not from Covid) for ever?
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G’day david,
I think I’ll just stay here, in the Central Tablelands, at about 32 degrees south. And about as far from both Qld and Vic as one can be simultaneously.
Cheers
Dave B
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For a bit of perspective, the quoted CDC figures suggest 2-3 deaths per year from amoebic meningoencephalitis in the US. The CDC also states there are approximately 3,960 deaths per year from drownings.
Maybe learning to swim would be more useful in saving lives than trying to change the climate?
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There is always something.
Giardia infection (giardiasis) is one of the most common causes of waterborne disease in the United States. The parasites are found in backcountry streams and lakes …
Giardiasis is not as deadly but is quite unpleasant. It can cause rapid weight loss and that can lead to inguinal hernia.
By “backcountry” one usually means higher and colder. Maybe 1° rise will lessen this burden.
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Maybe this explains the whole Albanese – Bowen thing.
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New Zealand with its numerous geothermal places has experience of primary amoebic meningoencephalitis (PAM) dating back to 1968 with the first recognised cases involving people who had been swimming in untreated thermal pools in the central North Island.
Between 1968 and 1978 there were 8 fatal cases, and one further case was reported in 2000.
Given the number of people/tourists who would have partaken of a New Zealand hot spring in the past 54 years these deaths would be far lower down any “rare occurrence” list compared to the rare inoculation deaths/injuries of the last 3 years. Authorities continue to view this level of reaction as acceptable ie still pushing the shot.
The other “associations” with the pandemic are that PAM can be neutralised by adhering to social distancing rules ie keep your head above the water and by wearing the equivalent of a face mask ie a nasal clip.
Again, authorities have spent the last nearly 3 years assuring us these steps are totally effective. Funny how the same approach to managing a pandemic is easily applied to a new health issue yet there is no possibility that existing drugs can be repurposed/effective in a similar way.
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We survived our dips at Hanmer Springs some 20-odd years ago!
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Thanks for highlighting this latest load of BS and nonsense Jo and our recent slight warming has obviously saved 100s of thousands lives.
Just observe the massive 7 billion increase in population since 1800 and longer life expectancy today of 73 years compared to under 40 before the use of fossil fuels.
BTW I’ve been reading a Euan Mears’ article about the incredible 14000 year lag of co2 after the Eemian temp plunged into the next full glaciation and the comments from Javier etc.
The co2 level was 274 ppm at the beginning of the temp drop but was still about 274 after another 14000 years.
So far our co2 level is about 418 ppm so does anyone want to guess how much of a difference we could really make by following their so called mitigation lunacy?
Already the Conversation, Royal Society and NAS are telling us it won’t make much difference for thousands of years, referencing the Zigfeld study.
And there was also a 6000 year co2 lag as temps increased at the start of our Holocene according to the Petit study.
Jo Nova also gets a mention in the Mearns’ article. Here’s the link.
https://euanmearns.com/the-vostok-ice-core-and-the-14000-year-co2-time-lag/
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Shame Euan didn’t realize I discussed the long lag at inception seven years before he did. 🙂
https://joannenova.com.au/2010/08/ice-core-evidence-no-endorsement-of-carbons-major-effect/
And I also discussed the lack of amplification in the ice cores way back in 2010. https://joannenova.com.au/2010/12/where-is-the-positive-feedback-not-in-the-icecores/
The modelers excuse was always that CO2 did not trigger the temperature rise but it fed it. Clearly there was no evidence for that either.
Javier says “As far as we know there hasn’t been 350 ppm CO2 during the Pleistocene” — but this is only because the ice cores have many flaws and chemical changes and smooth readings and often disagree with other climate proxies. But in the pleistoscene the ice cores are considered sacred and all other proxies are either calibrated to read the same as ice cores or they are discarded entirely. I wrote about this in the 2020 IPA book on Climate Change.
I really should post some of that work on Antarctica. I read about 100 papers at the time.
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How Global Warming Is A Lot Like ‘Get Trump’
We live in a time dominated by political and media derangement.
ISSUES & INSIGHTS EDITORIAL BOARD
First up, global warming. We’ve been hearing the shrill warnings, a constant wave of hysteria for more than three decades. Because of man’s use of fossil fuels, we’ve been told the polar ice caps would melt, glaciers would collapse en masse, snow would stop falling, rising sea levels would flood coastal regions, and droughts and floods would be the rule rather than rare exceptions.
It’s hard to even recall a time when this alarmist or that climatista wasn’t trying to convince the world that we have only eight or 10 or 11 or maybe “zero” years, possibly even less than 100 months, to change our fossil-fuel-burning ways before Gaia would see to it that we begin to suffer and perish.
In fact, we shouldn’t even be here today. In 1989, the Associated Press reported that “a senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.”
But as we look around us, and as we review the data, the dark night of global warming that is always descending has never landed.
And it’s unlikely that it ever will. As the science shows, there is no climate emergency. Clintel Declaration Collapses Climate Consensus – Net Zero Targets Not Necessary says Friends of Science Society
The enduring-beyond-all-logic climate scare reminds us of the “Get Trump” campaign, which has been claiming for about seven years now that Donald Trump is on the verge of being either: indicted, kicked out of the White House before his term was up, found guilty, imprisoned, or chased from the public square.
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Jo Nova’s site has always been a good reference point over the last decade and so has WUWT, Co2 Coalition, GWPF, etc.
AGAIN here are some of the co2 Facts from the co2 Coalition site. Of course many of the World’s best scientists and thinkers are found at this co2 Coalition site.
https://co2coalition.org/facts/
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AGAIN here’s the real data about deaths from extreme weather etc over the last 100 + years.
And our population has increased by over 6 billion while our deaths have plummeted over the same period.
THINK about it and WAKE UP.
https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters
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Clinically Approved Drugs against CNS Diseases as Potential Therapeutic Agents To Target Brain-Eating Amoebae
Led by Dr. Ayaz Anwar, researchers from Malaysia’s Sunway University instead looked to three existing anti-seizure drugs – diazepam, phenobarbitone and phenytoin – that were already known to easily cross the blood-brain barrier. In lab tests, these drugs were tried both alone, and when attached to silver nanoparticles. The latter have antimicrobial qualities of their own, plus they have previously been used to improve the delivery of other drugs.
It was found that while each of the drugs was able to kill Naegleria fowleri unaided, they were much more effective when combined with the nanoparticles – adjacent human cells were left unharmed. Anwar and colleagues believe that the drug/nanoparticle combo may kill the amoeba by binding to protein receptors or ion channels on its outer membrane.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acschemneuro.8b00484#
Ok, next problem.
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Follow the money trail.
Does someone have a patented treatment for this disease that needs emergency use authorisation?
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It seems that higher co2 levels have just received another apology via the REAL WORLD DATA.
Higher or lower rainfall events are the result of changes in ENSO, the IOD and the SAM. BIG SURPRISE NOT.
See The Conservation online.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/09/21/natural-oceanic-cycles-behind-heavy-east-australia-rains-new-study-finds/
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Sorry the above should read Conversation not Conservation. GRRRR.
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Can anyone get that paper? I looked for it last night.
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Jo here’s the link to a short version of the the Holgate study. I don’t know whether this helps or not?
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/35/10/JCLI-D-21-0750.1.xml And the Conversation link is here.
https://theconversation.com/the-east-coast-rain-seems-endless-where-on-earth-is-all-the-water-coming-from-178316
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Thanks Neville, the ametsoc one is paywalled, though I had not seen The Conversion article. Ta.
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“Journalist just lie by omission.”
What a very interesting comment.
It would appear journalists who are climate sceptics also lie by omissions
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/22/sky-and-the-australian-find-no-evidence-of-a-climate-emergency-they-werent-looking-hard-enough
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What do you mean by “climate sceptic”?
If people are scientists or support the scientific method, they are sceptical of all claims made without evidence, by definition. Examples include supposed anthropogenic global warming. Where is the unalduterated evidence?
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“What do you mean by “climate sceptic”?
It is sometimes called climate denier but I have been told by Jo not to use that expression as it is regarded as offensive
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No, you can offend us all you want. Be my guest. If you read what I wrote, “climate denier” is fine as long as someone can define it in a science debate. So does it refer to people who deny we have a climate? Who are these people? Or do climate deniers deny something else. Please provide your definition and the observational dataset these people deny.
If your definition is that climate deniers deny a consensus, or deny the IPCC, or some variant, then it is a religious denial, and pure namecalling in a science debate.
Over to you…
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Are you saying you didn’t say “don’t use the term climate denier”? Memory lapse on your part JoNova
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Ian if I said “don’t use it” its because you have never been able to define “climate denier” in scientific terms, you just dodge the point (as you are now). Until then, the phrase is just a form of namecalling that con artists use to pretend they have won a debate that never happened. Fools many followers though.
Still waiting for you to name the observational dataset hypothetical “climate deniers” won’t discuss.
For 14 years I’ve only asked that people who use terms need to define them in the context of a science debate. Is that so hard?
I used to ask them to apologize for namecalling when they couldn’t define it, but that requires too much integrity for most. So far in 850,000 comments I think only two commenters apologized. Hurts too much.
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David asked , “Where is the unalduterated evidence?”
And you respond with absolutely NONE. !
Why is it that leftists assiduously avoid the actual science of the matter, while trying to insinuate that they are the victim ?
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“It is sometimes called climate denier”
None of those here.
We KNOW that “climate” exists and that climate changes all the time, naturally.
Oh, and please define the words “climate skeptic”
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It’s always nice (but useless) to speak-in-cliches.
Dearest Ian, does “finding a climate emergency” automatically mean finding a new emergency, or is it just a pagan method for labelling normal occurrences in ways that make them seem unusual and man-made when they are in fact entirely natural?
How are the new floods or droughts worse than the old ones? You can’t say, and neither can your favourite “journalist” (activist) Graham Readfearn who clearly needs to read my site so he can correct all his lies-by-omission in stories that don’t mention previous floods and droughts in Australia.
https://joannenova.com.au/tag/drought/
https://joannenova.com.au/tag/floods/
Maybe today will be the day you start reading my blog?
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“Maybe today will be the day you start reading my blog?”
“Dearest Ian”. Sarc I presume.
“Maybe today will be the day you start reading my blog?”
I do read your blog else how would I be able to respond to the articles you write? I subscribe to The Australian, the Guardian and the Australian Financial Review to get comprehensive coverage of current events. Guardian journalists are no more activist than are Chris Kenny and Janet Albrechtsen. Just as the Guardian journalists are to the Left most of the Australian are to the Right. My favourite journalists are Katrina Kelly, PVO and Greg Sheridan from the Oz, Katherine Murphy from the Guardian and Phil Coorey from the AFR. I don’t recall ever seeing anything from Graham Readfearn.
I was not surprised to see a comment of mine still “awaiting moderation” as they have been “moderated’ for over three months.
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I do read your blog else how would I be able to respond to the articles you write?
I dunno, maybe by typing letters in the comment box? I presume keyboards still work whether or not you have read the post…
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“I don’t recall ever seeing anything from Graham Readfearn. “
That’s odd , seeing as your Gruniad link was his work.
Seem you don’t even read your own links !
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Ian here’s the OWI data for deaths from all natural disasters since 1900. I hope this link works okay.
https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters#:~:text=Summary%201%20Natural%20disasters%20kill%20on%20average%2045%2C000,the%20most%20fatal%20disaster%20events.%20…%20More%20items
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Sorry it didn’t work, but the graphs are the last listed for deaths from disasters since 1900.
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“Sorry it didn’t work, but the graphs are the last listed for deaths from disasters since 1900.
Neville I had no problem accessing the graphs and histograms. I thought these comment very interesting
“In most years, the death toll from disasters is now in the range of 10,000 to 20,000 people. In the most fatal years – which tend to be those with major earthquakes or cyclones – this can reach tens to hundreds of thousands.
This trend does not mean that disasters have become less frequent, for less intense. It means the world today is much better at preventing deaths from disasters than in the past. This will become increasingly important in our response and adaptation to climate change.”
Precipitation extremes
“We can look at precipitation anomalies over the course of year, however, flooding events are often caused by intense rainfall over much shorter periods. Flooding events tend to occur when there is extremely high rainfall over the course of hours or days.
The visualization here shows the extent of extreme one-day precipitation in the US. What we see is a general upwards trend in the extent of extreme rainfall in recent decades
Heatwaves and high temperatures
“In the visualizations shown here we see long-term data on heatwaves and unusually high temperatures in the United States.
Overall we see there is significant year-to-year variability in the extent of heatwave events. What stands out over the past century of data was the 1936 North American heatwave – one of the most extreme heat wave events in modern history, which coincided with the Great Depression and Dust Bowl of the 1930s.
When we look at the trajectory of unusually high summer temperatures over time (defined as ‘unusually high’ in the context of historical records) we see an upward trend in recent decades.”
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In the USA, this is only true AFTER they have adjusted the data.. https://i.ibb.co/LSTXgn7/USHCN-adjustments.jpg
Hot days in the USA in real data trend downwards since the 1936 highs.. https://i.ibb.co/ZhR4nML/Summer-1895-2018-At-All-US.png
And hot days in Australia rely on the same type of “adjustment”.. cool the past.
Outside urban affected areas, they are not increasing.
There is also no visible trend in extreme rainfall in data which is not specially selected in time and location.
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“adaptation to climate change”
Trouble is, warming is NOT the issue, in fact its been highly beneficial.
We are destroying our ability to “adapt” to the cooling trend that is coming.
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US precipitation has been increasing since 1900.
In fact, the highest precipitations were in the 1970s, 80s, (or you could start at the very low year 1989?, if you wanted to propagandise.)
There was a step up around the mid 1960s and its been relatively level since.. why.. well…. not CO2
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And of course, temperatures in the USA are basically exactly what they were in 2005 when USCRN brought all the untoward “adjustments” under control.
(a slight bulge through the 2015/16 El Nino.)
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Rubbish.
There is no evidence in any real data of any sort of climate emergency…
It exists only in fake models… and the climate “scientists?” know those models are totally useless.
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Kevin Trenberth https://blogs.nature.com/climatefeedback/2007/06/predictions_of_climate.html
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“Rubbish”
Don’t attack me I was merely responding to Neville who apologised that the link he gave was not working. I had no problems with the link and was providing some comments from the linked to article in case others were unable to “get it to work”
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Didn’t attack you.
Attacked your comment.
There is no climate emergency… period.
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And seriously…
Readfern trying to pretend that the NSW floods were anything except a natural occurrence.
The guy is a scientific ignoramus… And activist willing to tell any lie to get in the news.
That so-called “research” he rants on about, is done using FAKE attribution models, where they program one model leaving out all NATURAL features, then another pretending CO2 causes all the warming.
It is the absolute antithesis of science.
Any real scientist would recognise that fact.
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So, Ian.. apart from natural variability of temperature and rainfall.
Where is this “climate emergency”?
Provide real un-adjusted data to support your nonsensical verbal meanderings and baseless panic..
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Where is this “climate emergency”?
Crickets ! 😉
Part of the staple leftist diet.!
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How much Carbon was acquired, or Green power Sequestrated to produce this guff? How many Bairns had no breakfast BECAUSE these goons stole their energy share on the planet ? How much…. how much… Why why why ?
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