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    liberator

    A couple of nice ABC news articles over the past week.

    Homeowner ditching gas and switching to electricity to be greener!

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-03/canberra-households-ditching-gas-decades-before-they-have-to/12728858

    “We started thinking about, not just what we were able to do to keep the smoke out, but also what we were able to do to push back against climate change.”

    Driving an EV in regional and rural NSW – all good if you’re happy to wander about while the car is charging.

    “In the end, I made it home — just.”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-06/how-practical-are-electric-cars-in-regional-australia/12731896

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      John F. Hultquist

      We have lived in an all electric house since 1989. The electrons come from hydro power of the Great Columbia River, in Washington State. I think we are the next to lowest cost electricity in the USA.
      The house was built in 1982. We put new shingles on a few years ago, and this year added more insulation in the attic.
      Melissa with the two kids may enjoy the electric house, but what that has to do with smoke from brush fires or being green (not for her I think) is a mystery.

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        I think we are the next to lowest cost electricity in the USA.

        John makes a good point here, and he’s correct where he says second lowest, as Louisiana is the cheapest, but only by 0.4 cents/KWH.

        He pays 9.65cents/KWH, and when converted to AUD that’s 13.5cents/KWH, around half what I pay here in Queensland.

        It’s all there on this Table from the EIA, as shown at this link.

        Now, as you look at that Table, you can see a number of things. Those three States in New England where it is so expensive, be aware that those States import virtually all of their power from the States which actually have power plants in them.

        The U.S. average (right at the bottom) is 13.1 Cents/kwh and that’s around 19 cents/KWH when converted to AUD, about two thirds of what we pay here in Oz.

        Also note the difference between the unit cost for Commerce and then Industry, and Industry is (on the whole) around half the unit cost for residential power. There’s nothing untoward in that as the average Commercial bill would be (average) residential multiplied by 20, and the average Industrial bill would be Res X (around) 100+.

        Also, when you look at New York, look at Commerce there, and then just try and imagine Manhattan, which consumes more power than, well, say ….. Africa.

        Tony.

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      Dennis

      From the link … “My next stop was Canberra, which had recently declared its electricity system 100 per cent renewable. In theory, recharging in Canberra would be 100 per cent cost and emission-free.”

      The ACT is not 100 per cent renewable energy, that Territory Government deception relies on the Territory Government having invested in wind and solar installations around the State of New South Wales and theoretically, based on the combined output, the electricity offsets the about 80 per cent of electricity from the grid being generated from power stations and fossil fuel.

      Once again the Installed Capacity deception is used, Capacity Factor ignored.

      Regarding the EV story, note the wish for government/taxpayer funding subsidies !!!

      Free market capitalism results from winners offering the best deal. The socialists always want to choose winners and pay them to be.

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        Graeme No.3

        Dennis:

        They also did deals with some wind farms in South Australia. I am not sure how the electricity got to Canberra as there is no direct connection, but I am thinking of big parcels of electricity sent via Australia Post.

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      Rowjay

      An extract from “Evoenergy gas network – 2021 draft plan” for the ACT. They are not happy campers as they were encouraged to upgrade the network as gas was a good lower emission transition energy source a decade ago, but now they have had the rug pulled out from under them, leaving stranded assets that would have been functional for decades.

      This pathway would involve the gradual disconnection of all gas customers until the network becomes inactive by 2045. As customers disconnect from the gas network, their energy needs would be completely met by renewable electricity.
      Without a gas network, the demands on the electricity network would increase significantly, as around 75 per cent of all households in Canberra use gas. As shown in the figure below, each year, gas provides over 40 per cent of Canberra’s total energy needs. In winter, this increases to between 55 and 60 per cent—providing more energy than electricity.

      Transferring residential customer load to electricity for all their energy needs would significantly increase the demand on the electricity network. This would require substantial investment to upgrade capacity of the electricity network and would leave our relatively young gas network and customers’ appliances unused. This would come at a high cost to consumers. In addition, this pathway would leave a large proportion of Evoenergy’s existing gas network investment unrecovered.

      https://www.evoenergy.com.au/gas-network-draft-plan

      Gas is by far the most efficient way to heat your home in the ACT. It is instantaneous when kicking in on those cold -5degC mornings while the reverse cycle crowd just aren’t up to it. The energy source when not needed is conveniently stored in natural reservoirs underground.

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        robert rosicka

        Anyone who has spent a few years in Canberra knows just how bitterly cold it can get , gas is for heating and cooking , Coal and Nukes are for generating power .

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      Ted O'Brien.

      [Duplicate]

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      Ted O'Brien.

      When are we going to find journalists with just a smidgen of engineering competence. Nobody will stand around waiting for batteries to charge. They will use swappable batteries! Quicker than filling up with petrol.

      That can also overcome the intermittent supply problem. The vehicle can be at work while the battery is charging or waiting to charge. The only problem is the cost of the batteries. Which can never be less than the raw materials they are made from.

      But how are supercapacitors coming along? If graphene can emulate the silicon chip as to production costs, that might create a new world.

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        Chad

        Ted,
        …..”swapable” batteries have been tried ( Tesla, Renault, and separate corpoations) ..and rejected as unworkable, financially or logisticly….its a dead duck.!
        And Supercacitors ahve a whole host of issues when applied to mobile use…..most notably their energy density and voltage discharge profile…
        IE. they require 4+ times the volume for an equivalent kWh capacity, and their voltage drops dramatically (80%). as the capacity is consumed. Unlike lithium which only drops 25%)
        Major technology changes are required before battery applications really become sensible.

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          Ted O'Brien.

          I can’t see batteries ever overcoming the financial blockade. Surely the market will rebel before we get that far.

          The logistical problem would be part of the financial problem.

          But who, dreaming of 640 kb of RAM in the mid eighties could have imagined a modern micro SD card?

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            Chad

            Unfortunately battery development doesnt seem to be obeying the same “ Moores Law” of continuous improvement !
            Infact there has not been any significant development in fundamental battery metrics since the early nineties….nearly 30 years since the Lithium cell was commercialised !
            ….Lots of promises , but not much making it commercially.

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        Bright Red

        Ted, there is no deader horse to flog than swappable batteries. The idea is even worse that ocean wave generators.

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    Orson

    Hi Joanne-thank you for shedding light on the darker, troubling, and even evil aspects of the US presidential campaign, wrapping in three weeks.

    I know that our Anglophone cousins Down-under will be much affected by whatever leadership emerges from that elephant (USA) in our common cultural sphere, and therefore have a definite interest in the outcome.

    Tonight on FNC, Sean Hannity leads with the declining memory of Democrat candidate, Joe Biden. I hope this segment gets posted online soon so I can share it because, as Sean points out, no US media is covering this aspect of Biden’s unfitness for the highest office.

    Sean points out that this memory decline from Monday alone includes not knowing where he is, confusion about what office he’s running for, and what was the name of political opponents he’s worked with or against.

    Late in August or July, an email from a former Biden staffer appeared online. She decried his elder abuse because she reported that he was put on anti-senility drugs, but was coping with side effects like incontinence and exhaustion. Thus, what adult diaper to wear and how to conceal it was among the challenges being faced by his staff this past (Northern) summer.

    Ultimately, she recoiled from this sad and severe situation, she declared, quitting from the campaign staff.

    Obviously, people debate whether or not this account was real or an imposter.

    Personally, I accept this account as likely because it fits in with early senility and memory decline that I seen in family elders and in Biden himself. But if one has not seen these clips of his garbled word salad and marked struggles to find words and names that an older man undamaged by age can find, like a Trump, one can well doubt my endorsement.

    In the US, the corporate media exists to shield their Leftist party from problems like their Brownshirt city rioters and gaffs by their pols and Biden from vetting.

    Just as with climate science lies, we have to examine the evidence.

    So, before a current set of video clips can be linked here, let me offer up Sean Hannity’s clip survey of Biden’s memory gaffs from August 2019: see the first 2 minutes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktw_cn3G7Xw

    This serves as a baseline to measure Joe Biden’s memory decline.

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      Ted O'Brien.

      We do indeed share your concerns.

      michelvsmithnnews posted a marvellous front page of The New York Post, declaring of Nancy: “She’s COUP-COUP”.

      I don’t know how many read it, but somebody out there is on track.

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      Orson

      Got it.

      Hannity seems to be covering Biden’s memory and cognitive decline this entire week. (Perhaps longer?) Tuesday night had another instalment documenting this.

      Here’s Monday night segment. Unfortunately, this evidence of Biden’s decline is quite troubling:
      “Biden commits more gaffes on the campaign trail”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCAiwDo-P_s

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        Orson

        On Tuesday night, Hannity interviewed former White House Physician Bobbie Jackson. He served in this capacity to Presidents Bush and Obama until Trump appointed him to manage a military veterans in the federal bureaucracy (Department of Veterans Affairs, for Yanks).

        While I don’t have this interview, yet, a news report of another interview he gave echoes the Hannity story:

        Former White House physician Ronny Jackson told reporters Tuesday he was “convinced” that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, 77, does not have the cognitive ability to be commander-in-chief.

        “I’m pretty familiar with what it takes both physically and cognitively to do that job and what the demands of that job are,” Jackson, 53, who is currently running for Congress as a Republican, said on a call organized by the Trump campaign.

        “As a citizen, not as a candidate running for Congress, but as a citizen of this country, I’ve watched Joe Biden on the campaign trail and I am concerned and convinced that he does not have the mental capacity, the cognitive ability, to serve as our commander-in-chief and our head of state,” he went on.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEvoqU-TfGk

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    Another Ian

    “Daniel Andrews right hand man Chris Eccles explains the philosophy behind the Victorian disaster”

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/10/daniel-andrews-right-hand-man-chris-eccles-explains-the-philosophy-behind-the-victorian-disaster.html

    YMMV

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      PeterS

      Given the incumbent bureaucracy our swamp is much worse than the one Trump is trying to flush out. So what hope is there of Australia escaping anarchy? As long as we have the kind of leaders in place today; none. We would need all state and federal leaders to be like Trump. Of course that’s never going to happen, at least not in our life times.

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        el gordo

        The US is a Republic forged in a revolutionary uprising, while Australia adopted the political culture of the mother country.

        We cannot expect to see a charismatic leader like Trump in Oz, he is exceptional.

        https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/june/trump-s-charisma

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          PeterS

          We’ve had a few charismatic leaders in the past that made significant changes. Menzies and Hawke are just two of them. Also you overestimate the powers of a US President. He has to deal with very similar issues as our PM, such as Congress and the Senate and on top of that at times even the Supreme Court. The distinction between a Republic such as the US and a Democracy such as ours is minimal. Only in people’s mind do they see huge differences, such as in the idealistic Pure Democracy, which never existed in the modern world.

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      Serp

      Victoria is running under a fully parallel administration with parliament and public service completely sidelined; surely governor Dessau would be justified in shutting this mob down.

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      TdeF

      This fits with Hanoi Jane Fonda’s view, that the virus (and the deaths of 200,000 Americans) is a gift from God for the Democrats. Here Daniel Andrew’s chief saw it as a way of spending $6Billion in 12 weeks to change society. Too bad about the 800 dead people. I shudder when I hear someone say they are ‘progressive’. That means socialism and truckloads of gold are more important than lives.

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        TdeF

        Text messages submitted to the inquiry show that someone told Mr Ashton between 1.16pm and 1.22pm on March 27 that private security would be used.

        Mr Eccles and Mr Ashton’s two-minute phone call occurred in this critical six-minute window. Something he denied under oath.

        Now that records have been made available, Eccles ‘appears to have made’ the phone call to the Police chief he swore under oath he did not make. But he resigned so that he did not distract from all the work to be done. Criminal prosecution is almost not enough for these progressive villains. A good jail sentence at a minimum. Or they can work on the Covid front line themselves.

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    MP

    The MSM have finally woken up to what is going on, little YT from Sky news. https://youtu.be/GeykREAlYSg

    This bloke just reads out news articles and this is about Vic’s lockdown. https://youtu.be/GeykREAlYSg

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    MP

    Oops wrong link.
    This bloke just reads out news articles and this is about Vic’s lockdown.

    https://youtu.be/1pLN0QVh_-w

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    Chad

    I posted this at the bottom of the WE unthreaded, but figure most wont go there now this thread is open, ..so a repost here.

    Headwinds in Germany Wind Farms
    An excellent Doco from DW on the decline of Germanys Wind industry..
    https://youtu.be/Qr5PEAK1t3U
    There is increasing public reaction to Wind farms in Germany, leading to increasing regulation and planning restrictions for new installations.
    Some authorities are making new installations commercially unviable, and together with the windback of subsidies,.the wind power industry is in a stagnant ( declining ) period.
    GDr Government are in turmoil over the huge costs of RE conversion and are considering “importing” much of their future power needs ,..in the form of Hydrogen ? !)…from cheap producers overseas (Saudi etc)
    Net result is that its very likely in 2021 Germany will decommission more Wind turbines than new ones are installed.
    Atlast, some reality enters the debate ..( well, until the Hydrogen solution entered the discussion :roll: )
    The Video IS worth the time .!

    Starting in 2021 and throughout the 2020s, many of Germany’s pioneer wind turbines, solar PV installations and biogas plants will stop receiving fixed feed-in tariffs, meaning many gigawatts in renewable capacity may be shut down if they can’t find a new business model to run on. This potential loss of renewable power capacity comes at a decisive time for Germany’s energy transition, as the country plans to increase the share of renewables in power consumption in order to reach its emission reduction targets and to gradually increase the use of electricity in all sectors.

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      TdeF

      As Donald Trump has pointed out, Germany is absolutely dependent on Russia for gas, like most of Eastern Europe through to Ukraine. America for the first time in 72 years is energy independent and a nett exporter. How can NATO work as a deterrent when they are all dependent on Russia? Germany of all countries knows this.

      Germany like Victoria has ample brown coal which it will not use. It’s all a form of political madness, with not a skerrick of actual science. It’s like surgery being abandoned and people taught instead about biorhythms and yoga and deep meditation.

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        Chad

        ..did you watch the video TdeF. ?
        It is quite enlightening as to how the German govmt is rethinking its RE strategy now it realises the costs and practicalities of the introduction of RE into their systems.

        Germany already knows that it will fail to achieve the CO2 emission reduction targets set for 2020, and the gap will be quite significant. ……. Perfectly aware of this, our western neighbour is postponing the closure of coal-fired power plants, digging new open-pit lignite mines, holding back the European Parliament’s ambition to set higher goals. and is building Nord Stream 2, writes Józef Sobolewski, director of the Nuclear Energy Department in Poland’s Ministry of Energy. [Originally published in Wszystko Co Najważniejsze]

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          Graeme No.3

          All they have to do is what the Netherlands do; buy renewable certificates from the Norwegian (and Swedish) hydro systems. So about 50% of the emissions there are written off as ‘renewable”.
          Burn a bit of wood, say half a million tons and keep burning household rubbish as they do now without it counting as CO2 released.
          The other possibility is to keep their nuclear plants going once fears of a tsunami roaring up The Rhine subside.

          It is great business for Norway in particular, 98% of their electricity from hydro or hydro + cheap (wind) electricity from Germany**. Cheap electricity, no carbon tax to pay and on top of that income from certificates. The only worm in the apple is droughts.

          **The last time I looked they were buying electricity at 26€ per MWh and selling it at 83€ per MWh.

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          TdeF

          The lunacy is that CO2 is not the slightest problem to anyone. Who has a problem with it? Not a single prediction of imminent disaster has come true in 50 years. And that is without the real science which says the level is not man made anyway, so it is all a terrible waste.

          Still Germans want a perfectly Green world. They were always passionate Greenies. Tree worshippers. Animists. Many Russians as well. Wind, fire, water and ancestors.

          But wind power is not cheap, not adequate, not predictable and the list goes on. Coal is the only answer. You just wonder where humanity would be if the $1.5Trillion a year wasted on replaceables was spent on limitless, pollution free fusion development.

          In the meantime, we could not change the CO2 level even if we wanted to do so. The Climate ‘targets’ are not based on any arithmetic, just fantasy. And what proves CO2 levels are natural is that is that no one is able to show any change at all in CO2 levels caused by human events, like the Wu Flu shutdown or bushfires or volcanoes or anything else. None of it is science and none of it is true.

          Besides Carbon 14 levels show less than 5% man made CO2 at any time. What a massive waste of money, except that money is never wasted. It makes the owners of windmills rich, so that is one benefit. AGL for example.

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            TdeF

            Yes, I watched half the video. But no one measures the effects of windmills. Their only argument is that windmills reduce the cost of electricity. Except that no where is that true. But that seems to be irrelevant as long as you have faith. Or hold shares.

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            Kalm Keith

            The problem has always been to frame a description of the non event that is Man Made Global Warming.

            You’ve done it!

            That sums it up.

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    el gordo

    New surveillance technologies are helping police clamp down on trouble makers before they do anything. Its the thin edge of the wedge on the way to a fascist police state.

    ‘Controversial police program successfully reducing crime.

    ‘A contentious NSW Police initiative is successfully reducing crime rates, a study has concluded. The initiative targets people deemed to be at high risk of offending and has been criticised for its disproportionate focus on Aboriginal and young people.

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      el gordo

      A young friend, having finished his 11 pm shift and keen to get home, was cruising along the highway within the speed limit. Cars were racing past but he kept to the limit, being a P plater with an unpaid fine.

      All of a sudden there were no cars to be seen and then one turned up and began to follow him, then tailgate. Still no other cars within cooee, so my mate increases his speed a little thinking they are Lakemba hoons looking for a fight, or a drunk trying to stay in the speed limit by following someone travelling at a moderate pace.

      The car then pulled out and took off at phenomenal speed, blazoned on the back in large letters POLICE. Which sort of explains why no other cars passed.

      I spit on their behaviour, my mate got a speeding ticket.

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    Another Ian

    More headwinds for wind farms

    “Washington State blows away wind fantasies”

    “The Northwest has spoken loudly as the Benton Public Utility District (BPUD) has documented their actual battleground experiences with intermittent electricity from wind farms that should be a wake-up call to our policy makers. Their message is “no more wind”. ”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/12/washington-state-blows-away-wind-fantasies/

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    Another Ian

    “Do Your Own Research?”

    “I encourage readers to take the time to read both of these fine essays, in full. Please don’t just stop when you find something with which you disagree (and you will find things, I promise). ”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/12/do-your-own-research/

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    Another Ian

    “Claim: New research: nitrous oxide emissions 300 times more powerful than CO₂ are jeopardising Earth’s future”

    CSIRO to the rescue again (lead author) and another hockey stick

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/12/new-research-nitrous-oxide-emissions-300-times-more-powerful-than-co%e2%82%82-are-jeopardising-earths-future/#comment-3102894

    And the comments – including

    “The authors of the above research article are the reason William F. Buckley wrote in the magazine Esquire in 1961:
    ““I would rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the telephone directory,” he said, “than by the Harvard University faculty.”

    Universities even in 1961 we being taken over by the Intellectual Idiot class. Mr. Buckley realized these “academic intellectuals” thought too highly of themselves and their willingness to dictate with the police powers of the State their beliefs on everyone else.”

    And

    “Looks like the Globalists at the UN IPCC are starting to realise that , with the overwhelming proof that CO2 is not to blame for Global Warming , they need another story to keep their scam going .

    So the new frightener is Nitrous Oxides .
    In the UK air qualities are monitored , & over the last 50 years the levels of Nitrous Oxides in the air have fallen by 74 % .
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/emissions-of-air-pollutants/annual-emissions-of-nitrogen-oxides-in-the-uk-1970-2018

    But no doubt they will make up a whole new load of lies to try to keep the farce alive .”

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      Another Ian

      With my background I have to bring this to attention!

      “Yes. Farmers need “scientists” and government bureaucrats telling them how to farm.”

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/12/new-research-nitrous-oxide-emissions-300-times-more-powerful-than-co%e2%82%82-are-jeopardising-earths-future/#comment-3102858

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      Nitrous Oxide is really nothing new.

      Remember the CO2 Tax introduced by, well, wotsername now.

      Part of that was an all encompassing Tax on not just CO2 but a whole slew of other gases as well, in an effort to make as much money as possible, sorry, save the World.

      Part of that Australian Legislation, (umm, still on the books you know, ready and waiting) was the following table of those 23 gases and their equivalence rating to CO2. This table was lifted directly from the UNFCCC UNIPCC.

      Each of the gases is given an equivalence rating with respect to CO2.

      Note that on this table Nitrous Oxide at number three is given an equivalence of 310.

      Okay, now what that means is that CO2 is the base level of one.

      Whatever price is set on CO2 emissions, then, using Nitrous Oxide as the example, then it is that CO2 dollar cost multiplied by 310, so at that original cost on CO2 of $26/Tonne, then that means Nitrous Oxide comes in at $8060 per Tonne.

      I suppose now you gain an inkling on how this might have an effect especially on the farming and grazing Communities, not just on the cost of the actual gas itself, but the levels of bureaucracy for measuring, calculating, and recording the emissions of said gas.

      As you look at this table, all those other gases are air conditioning and medical gases.

      That’s why with the introduction of said CO2 tax here in Oz, the cost of airconditioner servicing skyrocketed.

      Carbon Dioxide Equivalent Gases

      Tony

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    RickWill

    This is probably the most compelling evidence I have of the power of tropical storms to regulate Earth’s temperature:
    https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNg2wMlxHit3T7gwhi

    This data is presented a little differently to what is usually offered because it considers the energy balance over the oceans to show the amount of heat rejected as OLR plus SWR. It is not a power flux but rather the total energy rejected from longitudinal bands at the specific temperature.

    The main point to note is that the curve is approaching 30C asymptotically. Stated differently, the maximum temperature of any longitudinal band will only approach 30C; never exceed that temperature.

    To put this in perspective, the possibly unnoticed red curve at the base of the chart is the monthly energy contribution from doubling CO2 according to the MODTRAN calculations, utterly insignificant compared to what tropical storms achieve in rejecting energy.

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    MrGrimNasty

    Using ONS data, Oxford finds:-

    Average age of death from covid in England and Wales this year – 82.4 years.

    Some people have said oh people in their 80s have x years of life expectancy and have been robbed of this, but the ones dying from covid are not average – they are mostly in care homes with a life expectancy of a few months, or have other serious life limiting conditions.

    Less than 1% of covid deaths are under 44.

    IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) was at 3.3% early on but is now estimated to have settled at about 0.5% over all.

    The average age of death from all other causes is 81.5 years.

    https://www.soundhealthandlastingwealth.com/covid-19/the-average-age-of-death-from-coronavirus-is-82-4-years-writes-david-rose/

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      Graeme No.3

      Well that proves Boris is right to lockdown. Imagine how serious the problem would be if all those 80 year old teenagers were free to roam the streets.
      And for all those intelligence deficient trolls sarc off/

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    RickWill

    Tropical cyclones create an upper limit on ocean surface temperature:
    https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNg2wbbqUDIIo7aMf2
    They provide the mechanism to cause the heat rejected by clouds to rise asymptotically toward 30C in the longitudinal bands and locally at 1 degree resolution in both dimensions up to 32C.

    The red line right down the bottom is the assumed monthly global surface energy input from doubling of CO2 according to MODTRAN using US Std Atm.

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    beowulf

    Further to my weekend unthreaded comment on the US polls, the numbers on the ground tell the real story of Biden’s alleged popularity v. Trump’s. Some random examples:
    • Over 30,000 cars + boats came to the Miami Latinos for Trump rally.
    • Biden supporters managed 15 cars at a rival Florida drive-in rally.
    • Pence drew over 4,000 supporters to his Florida rally.
    • Biden and Harris drew 8 — YES 8 — supporters to their combined speaking rally in Phoenix AZ.
    • Trump has attracted over 240,000 to his speaking rallies just since Sept 7th.
    • In Clay County at the Ridin with Biden rally “at least 35” cars turned up (that was the best the reporter could spin it and with no video footage, which probably means there were more like 5)
    • Senior citizens in Florida held a rally in their golf carts/mobility scooters but the reporters were careful not to state any numbers and all TV shots were taken crouching at a low angle showing only the front rank of carts. There were no head-high shots to give an idea of scale, which might lead some to suspect that the golf cart rally was a distinct flop too, there were however 6 supporters clapping as the “convoy” passed.
    • Joe held a drive-in rally in LA but the cameras wouldn’t show the crowd at all. Wonder why?
    • Jill Biden held a drive-in rally in West Palm Beach, Florida — once again zero shots of the size of the crowd. Hmmmm.
    • A Biden rally in Tehachapi where “almost a hundred” supporters allegedly showed up yet the TV cameraman could strangely only manage to get about a dozen of the “hundred” in shots from 3 different angles in groups of 3s and 4s.
    • As one commenter quipped, there are more people lined up waiting for the Porta Potty at any Trump rally than there are at entire Biden rallies.

    Chris Turley has released another vid critiquing the usually reliable Rasmussen poll. The dodgy statistical stunt behind the sudden “surge” in popularity for Joe has been revealed and thoroughly debunked.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps-6DvkqB3A

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    Should’ve hired some of those
    rent a crowd Hollywood xtras
    or maybe some of those
    hood for hire Anti-fas.

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      beowulf

      Nah, just Photoshop the same people in 50 times over like they did to fill up Hillary’s empty rally halls in 2016.

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    James Murphy

    Boris Johnson must still be unwell, as he made some ridiculous statements about wind power in the UK…
    https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/06/every-uk-home-to-be-powered-by-offshore-wind-power-by-2030-says-uk-pm

    As to be expected, the UK Greens said whatever is being done, is not enough…they are consistent, if nothing else…

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      Serp

      Boris’s green idiocy is merely symptomatic of the fiscal forces controlling his government though there will be an end to this windmill lunacy in our lifetimes as the solar minimum kicks in and settles down for some decades after 2030; the inevitability of the trend should be obvious to all within five years.

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      Chad

      Typical polly headline grab.
      160 m pnds doesnt get you much wind power.. 250-300 MW nameplate maybe ?
      with a CF of 30% that means on avarage 100 MW to the customer roughly.
      So Boris’s 60,000 households will be living on less than 2 kW !!

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    James Murphy

    The IEA is making silly statements, it seems. I thought they were less focussed on ruining economies and lives than they UN…but perhaps I was wrong.

    https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/13/covid-19-crisis-is-opportunity-to-reshape-the-future-of-energy-iea-report-says

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    Ian Hill

    I have just received proof that the result of sensitive Freedom of Information requests can depend on who does the actual work in applying the various Sections of the Act which can cause some parts of a document to be redacted (blacked out). This is very disturbing because these sections are designed to protect either the privacy of individuals not involved in making the request or the release of potentially distressing information relating to the person who did make the request. In this case I am referring to Section 47F – Personal Privacy.

    There ought to be consistency no matter who (as part of a team) does the work. More than one person is involved in any request and the final decision on what’s released rests with the manager. However in my case there was a clerical error made and the office concerned sent me much sensitive information I did not ask for!

    In the past five years I have made several FOI requests to my former employer, a department in the Australian Public Service. Earlier this year I requested documents for a specific date range in the 1990s. It took a long time because in those days everything was still held in paper files. These had to be fetched from interstate and scanned into the computer. Eventually they started going through the documents to answer my request.

    It turns out that with the information I did NOT ask for the department duplicated an FOI request I made five years ago without apparently realising it! In more than a dozen instances they released redacted Section 47F information to me which was withheld five years ago. Some of it is distressing to me but also valuable.

    They already knew I had made a request five years ago which took 18 months to run its course with appeals for reconsideration and then referral to a higher authority. You would think they would have checked that they were not working on something previously requested!

    I would not dream of making the same FOI request years apart in the hope of achieving what I received by mistake! I will soon inform the department and see what happens.

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    Big Red

    It MUST be our fault…because…we don’t understand reality…

    http://www.scoopyweb.com/2020/10/second-mass-death-of-marine-animals.html

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    With the Global warming scam in full government force even when experts say different, we should trust the get your flu shots. 2 types this year…hmmm. Not allowed to question it’s effectiveness or if they changed manufacturing company.
    And trust our government the vaccine is coming and will be our cure.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dutch-woman-dies-after-being-reinfected-covid-19-global-cases-see-biggest-weekly-jump
    This shows that her antibodies didn’t last too long.

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    Travis T. Jones

    97% ‘science”, settled, UPDATE:

    2014: Study finds link between cloud changes and global warming

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-01/an-unsw-study-on-role-of-clouds-on-climate-change/5180574

    2019: NASA has conceded that climate models lack the precision required to make climate projections due to the inability to accurately model clouds. 

    https://notrickszone.com/2019/08/29/nasa-we-cant-model-clouds-so-climate-models-are-100-times-less-accurate-than-needed-for-projections/

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    Kevin a

    IF THE MAINSTREAM NARRATIVE WAS A CONSPIRACY, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE?
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/veaKVU1i9LjK/

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    BruceC

    Believe in the US Presidential ‘polls’ at your own peril – some facts ‘our’ ABC is not reporting;

    Biden/Harris had an event in Arizona last Thursday. Eight people showed up.

    Biden was in Las Vegas last Friday. The newspaper reported 20 people attended.

    Last Saturday in Miami, a “Latinos for Trump” car parade featured 30,000 cars. Yes, I said 30,000. The next day Biden had a car parade in Miami – 15 cars showed up.

    Since primaries were born in 1912, no incumbent has ever lost in the general election after receiving 75% or more of the votes from their own voters in the primary. Trump received 94% in the 2020 primaries.

    Because of fear of Covid, Team Biden hadn’t knocked on one door anywhere in America as of two weeks ago. But Trump volunteers have knocked on about 20 million doors in battleground states – 20 million to 0!

    A Gallop Poll reports 56% of Americans say they are “better off now” under Trump than four years ago under Obama/Biden – that 56% is the HIGHEST number in the history of Gallop asking “Are you better off?” Reagan was at 44% yet won a 49 state landslide. Trump is at 56%. But he’s losing? By double digits?

    The liberal media is about to be shocked and awed on Nov 3rd … again.
    Trump is about to win an electoral landslide … again.

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    Dennis

    Canberra winter in the EV future, renewable energy transition complete or investors have all run away leaving installations not operating.

    Decision, do we keep the household going or drive the EV to work?

    And if we drive it how would we recharge it.

    Then again, has anybody considered that electricity high be microwaved from space solar stations, very cheap?

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    Here is a new paper about the GBR. It hasn’t been poached yet by sci-hub but you can have fun reading the reviewer comments

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2020.1432

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    CHRIS

    BRUCE C… Don’t be too cocky. Like you, I would prefer a Trump victory, even though I am not a Trump fan (eg; I would not like to work in a Trump hotel). Florida looks good at the moment, but don’t forget the other swing states, and the Electoral College votes they bring. Remember that US elections have nothing to do with how many people vote…it is THE VOTE IN THE SWING STATES THAT COUNTS! As I have said before….Presidents can lose the popular vote by millions, yet still be elected President. DON’T COUNT YOUR CHICKENS!!

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      It is said that late deciders and turn out determines election outcomes. This plays to Trump strengths, like finishing strong, and against Biden (see my links on Biden’s cognitive and memory decline, above).

      Office But the great X-Factor I’d Democrat voter fraud. We know this has become institutionalised by Soros from over two decades ago, who spent lavishly to capture like-minded Democrats at Secretaries of State, whose state-level functions include managing elections. This has resulted in many close contests decided by “recounting votes until the vote changes D”. Republicans almost never benefit from these recounts; but the Obama Affordable Health Care Act only passed the US Senate with the benefits of a vote manufactured from such a victory.

      Now we have ballot harvesting, turning many R seats to D in California in 2018. With Covid year, we see they’ve added mail-in voting — a practice made illegal or else severely restricted to citizebscresiding abroad in 85% of EU counties — added to the mix

      I fear the CommieCrats War to Cheat this election. I expect riots and street battles to be in world news election week, if not for many weeks this year.

      In other words, it will be worse than last summer. Great fun times! /sarc

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      BruceC

      @ Chris, I’m well aware of the current state of US politics (in fact I probably know more about US politics then our own). I’m also well aware of the ‘popular’ vote and the Electoral College votes (Hillary won the ‘popular’ vote in 2016

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        BruceC

        Oops, looks like half of my comment got chopped … will try again;

        I’m well aware of the current state of US politics (in fact I probably know more about US politics then our own). I’m also well aware of the ‘popular’ vote and the Electoral College votes (Hillary won the ‘popular’ vote in 2016) and how it works. There are currently signs that two key states, California and possibly New York, could possibly flip this election which would turn this years election on it’s head.

        Then there’s the ongoing Durham/Barr investigation, the Flynn court case, the ongoing investigation into the Clinton emails and the Clinton Foundation, and just today, the release of emails and photos of Hunter Biden.

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    GD

    Great clip of a Latino UFC athlete spruiking for Trump.

    “As a professional athlete, I see things through a sports lens. That makes Donald Trump our head coach and before the pandemic, we were winning Superbowls.

    And when you’re winning Superbowls, you don’t fire the coach. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the plays he runs, the players he puts on the field, or what he says on Twitter.

    You sure as hell don’t replace him with another coach who’s been in the business 47 years at every level, and never won a f***** game!

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