The good news is that a majority of people are aware of media bias, and are skeptical of what the media tells them. The bad news is that this is just another marker showing the average Western citizen is losing faith in the integrity of so many key institutions.
The activist journo’s have overplayed their hand. They are not even trying…
“Voters Expect Reporters To Help Clinton Over Trump”
[July 21st, 2016] A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that only 20% of Likely U.S. Voters think that when covering a political campaign, most reporters try to offer unbiased coverage. Most (69%) say reporters try to help the candidate they want to win. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure (To see survey question wording, click here.)
The media have lost so much influence. They described Brexiteers as loony, selfish and xenophobic, but more than half the country ignored them and voted for Brexit. Similarly, the US media mocked and denigrated Trump supporters, and continually predicted he wouldn’t stay in the race, and wouldn’t make it through the primaries, and yet he did. Poor pundits keep being surprised by the people.
The key word in this survey is “try” — everyone knows humans have some kind of bias, but the survey asked “do most reporters try to offer unbiased coverage or do they try to help the candidate they want to win?”
Mainstream news has become an advertising forum for big government, but the dumb voters can see through it.
Nearly 50% of US voters think the media is biased against Trump. Nearly 20% say it’s against Hillary.
Voters See More Anti-Trump, Pro-Hillary Bias in Media
[May 2016] … Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 49% of Likely U.S. Voters think most reporters are biased against Trump, the presumptive Republican party presidential nominee, up from 47% in December before the official start of the primary season. By contrast, only 18% believe most reporters are biased against Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee, and that’s down from 23% six months ago.
Just 36% say most reporters are not biased against Trump, while 67% think most are not biased against Clinton. That compares to 31% and 59% respectively in the previous survey. Roughly 15% remain undecided on both questions. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Most voters have said in surveys for years that reporters try to help the candidate they want to win.
Two-out-of-three voters (66%) think the news media has too much power and influence over elections. Forty-seven percent (47%) consider media bias a bigger problem than big campaign contributions in politics today, but nearly as many (45%) now see big campaign contributions as the larger concern.
the MSM’s collusion with the Clinton campaign has been exposed in the DNC emails released by Wikileaks.
so what does the MSM do to regain trust with their audience?
it doubles down:
Fairfax was out of the gate early, and proud of it:
23 Jul: SMH: Chris Zappone: US fears over Donald Trump’s connections with Vladimir Putin’s Russia
Fears Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump may be pursuing a Russian agenda with his candidacy have triggered a wave of alarm in the US…
The concerns have prompted a series of high-profile American commentators and analysts to suggest Mr Trump may be getting backing from Russia for his US campaign.
Respected publications such as Slate, economist Paul Krugman writing in The New York Times, and The Washington Post have commented on the convergence between Mr Trump’s statements and geopolitical positions that Russia has long sought, with worrying implications should Trump become president.
“Trump is making it clear that, as president, he would allow Russia to advance its hegemonic interests across Europe and the Middle East,” wrote Jeffrey Goldberg in The Atlantic…
Fairfax Media was among the first outlets to report on the overlap between Russian online support and the Trump campaign. The nature of the sometimes virulently anti-Semitic attacks on journalists who have written critically about Trump, the support of anonymous bloggers and voices, and even the use of confusion and violence at rallies match the kind of fear and intimidation tactics used in Eastern European campaigns…
http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/us-fears-over-donald-trumps-connections-with-vladimir-putins-russia-20160723-gqcg8p.html
Zappone at it in June:
24 Jun: Sott.net: Paul Mansfield: Aussie Media Steps into the Dizzying World of Russophobia
Chris Zappone of the Australian newspaper The Age plums the depths of stupefying Russophobia with an opinion piece titled “Donald Trump-Vladimir Putin: Russia’s information war meets the US election.” His message is, basically, next time you encounter a pesky social media troll, know that you have crossed swords with one of Vladimir Putin’s troopers in the information war against the West…
Zappone presents a confused, jumbled mess of “facts” cobbled together and slapped onto paper. A bit like taking a mud pie and just chucking it, hoping some will stick…
The article is a slovenly piece of worship of the establishment elites that control, and neo-liberal crony capitalism which has crippled, our societies…
The central premise — if we can call it that — of the article is that Russia is supportive of Donald Trump becoming the next President of the USA…
https://www.sott.net/article/320798-Aussie-Media-Steps-into-the-Dizzying-World-of-Russophobia
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A salient quote from a recent blog on ‘Of Two Minds’. A site by Charles Hugh Smith.
From: http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com.au/2016/07/how-do-we-make-america-strong-again.html
“Sunday, July 24, 2016
“How Do We Make America Strong Again? Start Telling the Truth”
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To understand the nature of this problem, you need to understand the processes, and factors, involved – it gets a bit complicated.
Fact: The Sheriff is dead.
Reporter asks the Deputy, “Who shot the Sheriff”?
The Deputy, who has no leads, and no evidence, but does not want to get into trouble with the Mayor, says, “We are pursuing enquiries, but we cannot discount it being someone from out of town”.
The Reporter then goes to see the Mayor, to ask what is being done to track down the stranger. This is the first time the Mayor has heard about, “the stranger”, so extemporises by saying, “We are considering putting a possie together right now”.
A possie is duly formed, at the insistence of the Mayor, and rides off, out of town, not really knowing where they are going, and who they are looking for. In the meantime, the Sheriff’s body is removed to the morgue.
The next day, the cleaning lady goes into the Sheriff’s office, as she usually does, to tidy up. She notices that the Sheriff, as usual, has left his gun-cleaning equipment out again, so as usual, she puts it back in his desk draw. She also notices his revolver, lying under under the desk, and assumes that the Sheriff must have dropped it, when he was shot.
In the meantime, the possie returns empty handed, and the reporter is told that the killer must still be on the loose.
This story is sent to the Editor, who decides that it is so important and dramatic, that it deserves to be the lead story on the front page.
The State Governor, on reading this story, decides to initiate a State-wide manhunt. After all, it is coming up to election time, and he has to be seen to be doing something.
And so it goes on …
Nobody has knowingly lied, in this story; although several people could be charged with incompetence. But that is what happens when folks are put in situations that they have not experienced before.
By reading the story in a linear fashion, you ended up knowing more than any of the actors in the story did. We are wise in hindsight.
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Pat.
You are No 1 and spot on with your comment.
I especially noticed:
So true
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Pat, you didn’t get this quite right. The Wikileaks e-mails indict the Democratic National Committee (DNC), not the media. The DNC is the top party organization for the Democratic party and its chairman is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, a Congresswoman from a district in South Florida. Wasserman-Schultz is an angry, shrill, shrew (think Naomi Oreskes only with a big microphone). The reason this wikileak is so powerful is that in the party’s primary battle between Clinton and Bernie Sanders the DNC is sworn to be neutral among the various candidates. But the DNC staff members were actively trying to help Hillary defeat Bernie. On top of that, the Democratic party sets aside many delegate spots for the political insiders, Congressmen, Senators, State officials, Democrat state governors, etc. These “Superdelegates” are not bound to vote the same way as are the primary election delegates from their home states. So now the Bernie Sanders supporters are far more angry than they were even after Hillary won enough delegates to win the Primary election fight. Think the DNC “cheated” Bernie out of some delegates.
Because of all this, Wasserman-Schultz was openly booed last Friday in her home district in Florida where she introduced Hillary Clinton and Clinton’s new Vice-President choice. Wasserman-Shultz cancelled both of her appearances at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, and moved up her planned retirement as DNC chairman to this Friday, the day after the Convention ends.The Democratic party needs the pro-Sanders voters, but they may choose to stay home on election day, or else cast meaningless votes for one of the minor parties that have zero chance of winning (e.g.Green Party, Socialist Workers Party, or even Trump). Of course, on the right, some voters disaffected by Trump may vote for the Libertarian minor party and likewise take votes away from him.
BTW, during most of his Congressional career, Bernie Sanders was not a registered Democrat, because he considered the Democratic party too far to the right. But he did join the Democratic caucus in the Congress, so his vote in Congress was reliably leftist.
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Wiki leaks did leak communications between MSNBC, CNN and the DNC discussing what they wanted reported. So the media has most definitely been caught.
The number on trending topic on Facebook for the last few days has been the movie ‘Clinton Cash.’ This deal with crookedness and corruption of the Clintons.
The latest leak involves exchange of donations for dinner with the president, and for appointments to government positions. So the Democrats and looking very bad right now.
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Putin meddles in US politics, must want Trump to win.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-emails.html?_r=0
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If true, I doubt Putin’s was a noble motive to let the American people know the truth as he would certainly not appreciate reciprocity.
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Putin has never tried to hide his history, in the same way that George Bush did not hide his.
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My guess is that Hillary’s first impression wasn’t very impressive (the reset button debacle) and he’s among the anyone but Hillary crowd, especially given her connection to Obama and the poor relationship with him.
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the Bush family has been implicated in the JFK murder, and I’m sure I never heard good old George mention that
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My family was implicated in the Fine Cotton ring in scandal. That wasn’t true either.
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The Left seem to be full on with “the Russians are running everything”.
A prominent Left leaning commentator in NZ was last night on radio raging about how the Russians “own” Trump (they are financing him), they are financing Marie Le Pen, they financed the leave faction on Brexit, they are to blame for all the Middle East issues,they hacked the Democratic Party emails etc.
So it seems the message has gone out from ‘Global Lefty HO’ to make sure everyone goes with the message that the Russians are to blame for all their woes.( Similar to how everyone used the word “dark” to describe Trumps speech)
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Xi Jinping and Putin are working closely on the new world order, which you won’t find in the MSM.
In Beijing recently China and Russia ‘advanced 58 projects worth $50 billion. These include a $6.2 billion loan from Beijing to build the 770 km-long high-speed railway between Moscow and Kazan and $12 billion in loans to build an LNG plant in the Russian Arctic.
‘Russian Railways, Russian investment company Sinara Group, China Railway, and Chinese CRRC will also invest in a plant in Russia to build 100 high-speed trains, designed for the Moscow-Kazan high-speed railway. The railway inevitably will be connected to the future, $100 billion, high-speed expansion of the Trans-Siberian between Moscow and Beijing.
‘It goes without saying, this is all part of an essential node of the New Silk Roads. And as if this was not enough, in a further, graphic instance of geoeconomic interpolation, Russia and China’s central banks are setting up a yuan clearing mechanism in Russia.’
Global
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It seems “Da Rushins” are getting everything they want. For just a few $ they get to influence 50m people to vote Brexit, and 100m to vote T666.
Strangely the Left never thinks all the money Soros openly funnels into Avaaz, MoveOn, GetUp, the Ferguson rioters, and other random scumbags NEVER has the slightest influence on anything. Otherwise they might be a little uneasy about the idea of a billionaire buying political influence.
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We must be in the end-times, if the Socialist Left is now blaming EVERYTHING on the Communist Left.
I think I might have used the wrong exit. :-s
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from the article “It may take months, or years, to figure out the motives of those who stole the emails, ”
OMG. If the analysis is being done by lewandowski or Jared L. Peifer, Simranjit Khalsa, Elaine Howard Ecklund of the “Religiosity diminishes conservative opposition to eco-friendly buying” Study fame, then whatever motive they come up with will be so wrong as to be beyond wrong.
A statement like that just make the entire article a nonsense piece.
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It’s now difficult if not impossible to distinguish the tabloid press from the supposed hard hitting news.
Where once you could discern fact from fantasy it’s now all a blur seen through cynical eyes.
Q: How many
journalists does it take to
screw in a lightbulb?
A: Three. One to report it as an inspired
government program to bring
light to the people, one to report it as a
diabolical government plot to
deprive the poor of darkness, and one
to win a pulitzer prize for
reporting that Electric Company hired a
lightbulb assassin to break the bulb
in the first place.
All three angles could come from any outlet depending on where their paycheck comes from, and the public now know this.
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Yonnie,
What is the difference between a pregnant woman and a light globe?
You can unscrew a light globe.
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A real cat out of the bag scenario then. LOL 🙂
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MSM is out in force today:
As Democrats Gather, a Russian Subplot Raises Intrigue
New York Times – 6 hours ago
An unusual question is capturing the attention of cyberspecialists, Russia experts and Democratic Party leaders in Philadelphia: Is Vladimir V. Putin trying to meddle in the American presidential election? Until Friday, that charge, with its eerie suggestion of a Kremlin conspiracy to aid Donald J. Trump, ***has been only whispered. But the release on Friday of some 20,000 stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee’s computer servers, many of them embarrassing to Democratic leaders, has intensified discussion of the role of Russian intelligence agencies in disrupting the 2016 campaign…
Clinton campaign — and some cyber experts — say Russia is behind email release
Washington Post – 11 hours ago
Clinton’s campaign manager: Russia helping Trump
Highly Cited-CNN-13 hours ago
Clinton Campaign Chief Suggests Russians May Be Trying to Help Trump Win
ABC America – 15 hours ago
Clinton campaign suggests Russians working to elect Trump
In-Depth-CTV News-3 hours ago
GOP Rocked By Clinton Truth Bomb That Russia Is Helping Trump
PoliticusUSA – 13 hours ago
Clinton campaign manager says pro-Trump Russia behind DNC email leak
CBS News – 16 hours ago
Does Donald Trump Have a Subversive Partnership With Vladimir Putin
In-Depth-Newsweek-22 Jul. 2016
NYT claims until now such a link ***has been only whispered?
in May we had:
BBC Culture: What does the Trump/Putin kiss really mean?
WaPo: The Putin-Trump kiss being shared around the world
CNN: Mural of Trump and Putin kissing sparks attention
AFP brought attention to this rubbish:
Getty images: LITHUANIA-US-MURAL-TRUMP-PUTIN
Restaurant owner Dominykas Ceckauskas pose next to a mural on the wall of his establishment depicting US Presidential hopeful Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin greeting each other with a kiss in the Lithuanian capital Vilnius on May 13, 2016. Kestutis Girnius, associate professor of the Institute of International Relations and Political Science in Vilnius university, told AFP -This graffiti expresses the fear of some Lithuanians that Donald Trump is likely to kowtow to Vladimir Putin and be indifferent to Lithuanias security concerns. Trump has notoriously stated that Putin is a strong leader, and that NATO is obsolete and expensive. / AFP / Petras Malukas
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/license/531158180
13 May: Artnet: Lithuanian Street Artist Creates Colorful Mural Depicting Putin-Trump Kiss
The work is titled, ‘Make Everything Great Again.’
by Rain Embuscado
Mindaugas Bonanu, a Lithuanian street artist and graphic designer, is behind the project, reports the Baltic Times. He recently unveiled the work, titled, “Make Everything Great Again,” with the help of the barbecue restaurant’s owner, Dominykas Ceckauskas. “We saw similarities between the two heroes (Trump and Putin),” Ceckauskas said in a statement. He added: “They both have an ego that is too big and it is funny that they ***get along well.”…
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/trump-putin-kiss-lithuania-mural-497387
***they don’t even know each other…whereas Hillary & Bill (fill in the rest).
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more “whispers” before the Wikileaks email dump?
Why Putin Loves Trump
New York Times-13 Jan. 2016
The Trump-Putin bromance a reason for concern
The Seattle Times-2 Jan. 2016
Trump and Putin: beginning of a destructive bromance
The Australian-13 May 2016
From Russia with love: why the Kremlin backs Trump
In-Depth-Reuters-24 Mar. 2016
Why Is Donald Trump a Patsy for Vladimir Putin?
New York Magazine-28 Apr. 2016
The Kremlin’s Candidate
POLITICO Magazine-27 Apr. 2016
Trump Jumps Into Bed With Putin
Accuracy In Media-27 Apr. 2016
btw Wikileaks will, apparently, be releasing thousands more emails in the coming days from Clinton’s private server.
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Hillary whispers?
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Interesting Pat –I had not read your two posts before I made my comment at 2.2. It is obviously more co-ordinated than I thought.
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The phrase is “highly-orchestrated”, rather than co-ordinated. The story-lines, and which media outlets would be publishing what, were decided months ago.
Trump has a vision of the way the world should be. Putin has a vision of the way the world should be. Those visions are not the same. One is of the “right”, and the other is of the “left”. But that matters not. The fact that they both have clear visions of the way the world should be, makes them soulmates in the eyes of the Democrats, who arguably have no vision at all.
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20%!That’s appalling —
So many people believe the media.
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All that you have to do is read The Age and Their ABC to see which side both media are on. I don’t think I’ve read one bad word about Clinton.
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The Democrats are like the ALP. Any lie will do. They want the voter to think Trump and Putin are an item when the opposite may be closer to the truth. What better way to cause doubt in the American mind than to claim a President Trump would cosy up to the evil empire.
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Anything to discredit Trump. Goebells will proud of today,s media. When you read his diary there is an intellect and cunning in his propaganda and lots of it was true including his prediction of the iron curtain. Today’s journo is a cut and paste nobody that is too lazy, too dumb and too scared to think independently. No responsibility or moral compass. At least Goebells broadcasted the Katyn massacre, or Russian atrocities in East Prussia. If it wasn,t for him lots of Soviet crimes would not be known. Sure he was a monster but at least he was consistent and died for what he preached.
This new generation has no morals often falsely hiding behind imagined compassion that the left tells us about every day.
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Not mentioned in this post is the pro global warming bias in the media. Prior to coming to Jo’s site I was reading an AP article about the sighting of a wolverine in California. There were two mentions in the article about how global warming has made life more difficult for wolverines in the Sierra Madre mountains. Total bullocks of course, especially in a supposed factual news story. This goes on everywhere in the media. I recently had a discussion with the editor of my local paper. The guy was totally clueless about the global warming farce. He just accepted the widely publicized mantra. He didn’t show much interest in educating himself either.
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Bias in climate change reporting in Australia.
The print media is divided between warmists (Fairfax) and sceptics (News).
https://2risk.wordpress.com/tag/media-bias/
The national broadcaster (ABC) is sensationally warm.
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It seems to me that the concept there of bias is biased, not to an examination of facts, but to a presumed central point.
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Roger Jones is biased and clearly sits in the warmist camp, but it gives us a valuable starting point.
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Absolutely correct. Newspapers print warmist propaganda almost daily. They publish alarmist letters to the editors at least weekly, but rarely publish skeptical rebuttals to either, or if they do they will bury them in their online opinion blogs so that the public will be unlikely to see them.
TV news often drop in global warming innuendo in unrelated or barely related stories. They conflate weather events with climate all the time. Meanwhile, there is virtually no skeptical coverage at all except for ridicule. If skeptical, or neutral, or luke warm scientists even testify in front of Congress it didn’t happen. Judith Curry and others gets zero main stream news coverage. They are deliberately ignored. When Senator Cruz held hearing on the topic it got no coverage at all, for example. Not even on Fox.
Once in a great while Stuart Varney and a few others may air something containing skeptical viewpoints on the Fox Business Channel.
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This is all based on several papers by McKeveley (hope I spelled that right) and Copeland who have long term studies on wolverines with regards to habitat constraints, behavior etc. Their papers predicting the likely outcome for wolverines given certain climate scenarios are difficult to fault, so long as you accept the range of scenarios they consider.
The thing is though Stan, you are correct that the person quoted was speaking bollocks. The research is modelling the effects on breeding a long way in the future assuming that the climate does certain things in the northern Rockies (where they mostly study) that affect the wolverine’s ability to breed and feed. The observation of a wolverine wandering around in some unexpected place cannot be connected to this research in any way and is pure data free speculation.
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there’s barely an ABC radio program i’ve heard in months (almost never watch ABC-TV but imagine it’s the same) that doesn’t include an attack on Trump, so it’s no wonder they found time for the following today.
the opening ***”Grammar lovers” should read “Trump haters”:
25 Jul: ABC: Donald Trump slammed for error-riddled tweet
***Grammar lovers have rounded on an error-riddled tweet by Donald Trump, saying any future president of the United States should at least know the difference between “their” and “there”…
The problem? The tweet was full of spelling errors — “their” instead of “there”, and “waist” instead of “waste”.
Mr Trump quickly deleted the tweet, replacing it with a grammatically correct version…
But the initial misstep did not escape the watchful gaze of grammar lovers on Twitter — including model Chrissy Teigen — who said it was another reason Mr Trump should not become president…
TWEET TWEET TWEET TWEET TWEET ETC
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/grammar-lovers-slam-donald-trump-for-error-filled-tweet/7657666
following begins with 7 paragraphs about balloons! entire piece is full of hot air:
25 Jul: Hillary Clinton’s Democratic Party convention performance key to building party unity
By North America correspondent Stephanie March
Updated about 3 hours ago
It’s all about the balloon drop…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/hillary-clintons-democratic-party-convention-unity-challenge/7655788
do the following headlines capture the raging & ongoing scandal?
this is ABC’s only coverage i can find on the email scandal, yet they were released last Friday (all MSM waited and waited before realising they couldn’t simply ignore them):
25 Jul: ABC: Email leak suggests insider attempt to undermine campaign of Bernie Sanders
Posted 3 hours ago
25 Jul: ABC: US Election: Democratic Party chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigns in wake of email leaks
Updated about 3 hours ago
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Grammar on Twitter? Good grief!
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Predictive text = predictive spelling. Turn it off.
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The Russians like Trump? They adore Bill and Hillary Clinton, actually, or they should.
In 2013 Canadian Uranium One executives were trying to sell off their US uranium projects to Russian interests. While successfully lobbying the State Department for permission, during Hillary’s tenure as Secretary of State, they donated $US2.35m to the Clinton Foundation, which the Foundation failed to disclose. Bill Clinton also picked up a $US500,000 speaking fee in Moscow – one of his highest – from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.
The US-approved uranium deal gave the Russians a fifth of US uranium capacity, under their Rosatom masthead. Hillary had earlier pledged to notify Obama about all donors to the Foundation but the uranium-interest donations only came to light through a Reuters reporter’s discovery. The Clintons then had to re-file five years of tax returns on how they were reporting donations.
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The protest vote is alive and well – Brexit, Oz Federal Election. Many US voters will see Clinton (a trained lawyer just like Obama) as the “same old same old”. Expect a large protest vote come this November and just maybe Trump will get over the line. And no doubt the MSM will promote Clinton but I would suggest this will have little impact on the “disillusioned USA strugglers”.
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There’s still more than 3 months to go.
We haven’t seen lefttoid crazy yet. They’re just warming up.
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And the more crazy they get, the more looney they appear.
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The United States Federal government allowed the formation of the American Media Oligopoly, in gross violation of existing American anti-trust statutes, on the condition that they function as de facto organs of state propaganda uncritically taking Big Government’s side on any and all issues. That is why the American Media has been so critical regarding the candidacy of Donald J. Trump while giving Hillary Rodham Clinton a free pass on everything, including the commission of multiple Federal felonies in rigging the 2016 Democratic primaries and caucuses in US states and territories to give Hillary Clinton more votes and delegates than US Senator Bernie Sanders. For these reasons a majority of Americans thoroughly despise the media “presstitutes” and their masters.
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Maybe off topic but our ABC has a special on tonight about the third pole and its shrinking glaciers, coming from the abc I know it’s biased and probably 99% bs .
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Its on topic, our ABC is biased.
‘Chinese authorities have opened up a remote research station on the Qinghai Tibetan Plateau and revealed alarming research on the pace of global warming.
‘Half a century of research shows the temperature has increased by 1.5 degrees in the area, more than double the global average. More than 500 glaciers have completely disappeared, and the biggest ones are retreating rapidly.’
ABC
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Their ABC is hugely biased and I wouldn’t expect $1bn grabbermint mouthpieces to act any different. Hopefully one day we’ll have a parliament that’ll clean out that rat nest.
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Here is a Tibetan Plateau ice core paper which openly states that solar activity is the main driver.
http://219.238.6.215/publisher/scp/journal/Sci%20China%20Earth%20Sci-D/40/6/10.1007/BF02877697?slug=full%20text
The ABC is showing bias by leaving it out.
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I am not so sure that this ‘is just another marker showing the average Western citizen is losing faith in the integrity of so many key institutions’. Most of my life people have complained of media bias in one direction or other. Looking back into the nineteenth century, it was taken as read that newspapers would adopt a particular bias.
The real complaint is that media pretends to be unbiased, when it is not so, but, heck, what propagandist really wants to stand up and say ‘Hey, I’m biassed, you really need to access several sources to get the best idea of what is going on’. Not gonna happen.
We do not need to rely on media to be intelligently skeptical for us. That is our job. Skepticism, and lost faith, is a part of what makes the average Western citizen an average Western citizen. And, I think, we love it!
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The challenge is when even several sources give you the same spin on events, or just don’t report them. Social media offers a potential alternative, but both Facebook and Twitter have demonstrated the ability to squash stories/threads they don’t like. How do we know what actually is happening in the world around us?
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Wasn’t it Mark Twain who said that is you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed and if you read the newspaper you are misinformed.
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I think you’re on to something – I certainly don’t have anything against biased media, as long as I have a diversity of bias at my disposal, and they do not claim to be ‘neutral’ (as the ABC does) when it is patently obvious that they are not.
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I am waiting to see the next “nice” photograph of Trump – it will be the first.
I am waiting to read the next “neutral” press report about Trump – it will be the first.
I am waiting to see the next “unbrushed” photo of Hillary Clinton – it will be the first.
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This one doesn’t look brushed: http://www.easysite.com/sitedata/letsrolltexassonsofliberty-com/EditorItem_31081_2_243950.jpg
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Looks like a villain from Dr Who series.
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Caption: Man, that stuff is “THE BEST” hit in months. Where did Bill get that sh*t?
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More chins than a Chinese phone book .
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I can help you out with the last.
There ya go, mate: http://imgur.com/gallery/tEKZT
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By far the most unbelievable aspect of this article is that 18% believe the MSM is biased AGAINST Hillary Clinton!!
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I think they meant they are openly campaigning for Vladimir Ilych Sanders ahead of Crimton. And that 18% probably have a point.
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This should be compulsory viewing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g&t=13m15s
It is a Russian view on subversion. The whole thing is interesting, if long. Starting at 13:15 it details the main targets of subversion. Item 1 is denigrating religion. Whatever you may think about religion it did provide a moral compass. Removing any such direction is required. It covers the media and education as well. The worrying thing is that everything mentioned is happening.
The questions about the media are: who elects them and how do they have so much power. An interesting point is made about the “mediocrity” required for the job.
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Now that is something I’ve watched happen. When Arnold Schwarzenegger was not yet a candidate for governor of California the media was able to talk some about the other republican candidate, Tom McClintock. But as soon as Arnie’s name was even tossed around with a serious intent, Arnie was all you heard about. McClintock was buried under a mountain of Schwarzenegger news every single day. So of course Arnie was elected. The voters didn’t want Gray Davis, they wanted a reformer, Arnie talked like a reformer and he was the only one they heard enough about to even notice.
Who was Tom McClintock? A nobody to the average voter in spite of the fact that he would have been a much better governor than Arnie.
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There’s no such thing as leftist media bias. It’s Lone Wolf media bias. All those reporters who left the “Ali” off David the German’s name? The reporters on Nice who said the truck had a driver who drank booze and ate pork and acted alone?
Those journos were reporting all on their own, but just happened to report the same things the same way. Lone Wolf media!
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A large pack of lone wolves? hmmmm interesting.
At every public gathering I’ve attended there has been ABC, Nine, Ten, Seven and independent news reporters there, every time they have been mostly refused interviews or called out verbally as liars by the public on both sides.
Surely the zero respect must be getting to them or are they simply at a point of going through the motions to appear as doing their job and the story is already written.
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“It’s a pity they can’t both lose.” – Henry Kissinger (on the Iran-Iraq War).
I undoubtedly see the point of an anti-establishment candidate, but, despite Trump’s pretensions, that is not what he is.
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So, you would prefer Hillary?
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No, I’d prefer “None of the above”. Hillary is a compulsive liar, is hideously corrupt and hopelessly compromised. It stands to reason that Britain’s GCHQ has a full set of Hillary’s e-mails. Every competent intelligence agency, including Canada’s, Australia’s and – guess what – those of the United States, knows exactly what was in Hillary’s inbox. The Russians know. The Iranians know. The North Koreans know. The Chinese could probably monitor her actual key-strokes.
Unless Trump surrounds himself with men and women of integrity and virtue, I can’t see what difference this forthcoming election will make. Clinton, Rodham, whatever she calls herself this week, could not be a worse candidate, but that doesn’t make Trump a more suitable one.
I’m all in favour of a binary system in a referendum, but a permanently binary system for electing the head of state is, in scientific parlance, completely bonkers.
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According to “Clinon Cash” (on this web site) it was the Clintons who sold part of Amwerica’s Uranium resources to Russia. Perhaps Putin would rather have a worthy opponent than an owned puppet.
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20%? With so many fools no wonder the US is crumbling.
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One of the most recent and best examples of how the MSM shamelessly broadcasts political spin was the PM Gillard charges of Tony Abbott being a misogynist, a charge that was to any thinking person completely false, baseless.
The same spin was used in the UK against David Cameron when he was leader of the opposition, the creator of the spin was Labor Spin Doctor John McTiernan who was later brought to Australia on a 457 work Visa and worked for Labor here. He wrote the speech that Gillard delivered in the Parliament and they rehearsed it together, a man created the misogynist tactic for that woman and many of her admirers applauded her intestinal fortitude in speaking out against her political enemy, a man.
Sadly many women were impressed and believed every word, Gillard was even hailed as a role model for young women.
And the media went along with the character assassination of a decent family man.
[Edit – some links for info.
https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2012/december/1359520891/nick-bryant/strategist
http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/10/13/john-mcternan-taking-julia-gillard-down/
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/julias-master-of-spin-20120505-1y5jq.html
https://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/25/the-mcternan-curse-when-the-spin-doctor-becomes-the-story/ -Jo]
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Hi, the ABC claims that John McTiernan wrote the speech.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-12/emails-reveal-john-mcternan-oblivious-on-abortion-law/5150964
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“The powerful adviser credited with crafting Julia Gillard’s misogyny speech and so-called “gender wars” did not know whether Labor was opposed to a bill to restrict abortions.”
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ABC radio conveyed NOTHING of the turmoil at the DNC this morning:
26 Jul: ABC: US election: Democratic Party struggles to present unified front on first day of convention
By North America correspondent Stephanie March
Posted about an hour ago Updated 37 minutes ago
As the convention got underway, the Democratic National Committee offered a “sincere apology” to Senator Sanders and his supporters for “inexcusable remarks” in emails.
That failed to quell the disquiet in the arena, with many of Senator Sanders delegates “booing” when speakers refereed to Hillary Clinton.
“The exact configuration of the protests are unclear but it is evident that a substantial majority of the polled survey delegates support participating,” Norman Solomon from the Bernie Delegates Network, a group representing two-thirds of Bernie Sanders’ almost 2000 delegates, said…
This week could be ugly for the Democratic Party as it tries to present a stable and unified ticket in the face of the unpredictability of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump…
Life-long Democrat and Sanders delegate Manuel Zapata believes whatever damage has been done can be fixed.
“I think there is something cool about living in a haunted house and I will stay here until we fix it,” Mr Zapata said…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-26/us-election-democratic-party-struggles-to-present-unified-front/7660194
3 little words about Clinton you missed, ABC:
Democratic Convention Opens on an Ugly Note
TIME – 41 minutes ago
Some delegates borrowed a chant from last week’s Republican convention in Cleveland, shouting, “Lock her up!”
Guardian: ‘Lock her up’: Sanders supporters adopt Trump’s attack line on Clinton
WSJ: Bernie Sanders Supporters Chant ‘Lock Her Up’ in Philadelphia
Buzzfeed: “Lock Her Up” Not A “Consensus Sentiment,” Clinton Camp Says After Bernie Voters Take Up GOP Chant
NY Post: Even Bernie Sanders supporters want Hillary Clinton behind bars
25 Jul: CNN: Jennifer Agiesta: Donald Trump bounces into the lead
Donald Trump comes out of his convention ahead of Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House, topping her 44% to 39% in a four-way matchup including Gary Johnson (9%) and Jill Stein (3%) and by three points in a two-way head-to-head, 48% to 45%. That latter finding represents a 6-point convention bounce for Trump, which are traditionally measured in two-way matchups…
ABC missed quite a bit more:
26 Jul: 9News: No we can’t: Hard-core Sanders fans reject Clinton
Some let it be known that they would prefer anyone — even Trump — as president rather than see Clinton gain the White House.
“The system, as Trump says, is rigged,” said Shana Lin, a housewife from Virginia Beach who held a sign that read “You lost me at Hillary” as fellow “Berners” flooded the streets in the shadow of City Hall.
“Actually, at this point, I think Trump is a marginal step up, because (Clinton) has proven to lie to the American people over and over,” she added.
“She lies, she’s a warmonger, she’s divisive. She is only out for herself.”
Several thousand protesters, many of them ardent Sanders backers, held demonstrations in Philadelphia far larger than any seen in Cleveland during the Republican convention…
But despite their candidate now backing Clinton, many say they will not hold their nose and pull the lever in November for someone they loathe…
“I’m not scared of Trump, period,” Duffy insisted. “I’m more scared of her,” she said of Clinton…
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2016/07/26/06/42/hardcore-sanders-fans-reject-clinton
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And this is the end result of people not trusting the media
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/25/ft-guardian-media-group-hit-record-173m-loss/
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Even billionaires won’t let losses like this go on for long.
$173M.
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Mike
the proceeds of the sale of “Autotrader” won’t last long at this rate. They are the only thing keeping it going.
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right up there with Bloomberg’s endorsement!
25 Jul: CNN: Theodore Schleifer: Al Gore endorses Hillary Clinton
“Given her qualifications and experience — and given the significant challenges facing our nation and the world, including, especially, the global climate crisis, I encourage everyone else to do the same,” he tweeted…
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/al-gore-hillary-clinton-endorsement/index.html?adkey=bn
damn those AlGore-ithms:
25 Jul: Gizmodo: William Turton: Facebook Admits It Blocked Links to Wikileaks DNC Emails
Facebook admitted it briefly blocked links to Wikileaks files containing internal Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails. The block seems to be the result of another algorithm accident that may have incorrectly determined the links to be malicious or spam.
Facebook Chief Security Officer says the company has fixed the error, after receiving heavy criticism from WikiLeaks…
Update 7/25/2016 8:18 pm EST: In a statement provided to Gizmodo, a representative said “Like other services, our anti-spam systems briefly flagged links to these documents as unsafe. We quickly corrected this error on Saturday evening.”
http://gizmodo.com/facebook-admits-it-blocked-links-to-wikileaks-dnc-email-1784262270
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The Russians wrote the emails.
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Where is that Angeic voice that made Simon’s lyric unforgettable.?
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25 Jul: Philadelphia Inquirer: Citations and heat injuries as DNC protests continue
As of 6:44 p.m., Philadelphia police said there had been 55 people cited for code violations, but no arrests. The 32 males and 23 females were cited for disorderly conduct, a police spokesman said…
Further back, 12-foot-high security fences lined the delegates’ route into the convention…
***Big cheers rose up as a sign truck passed bearing the message: “Hillary for prison 2016,” sponsored by Infowars.com…
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/Bernies-backers-take-over-Broad-Street-for-a-2d-day.html
25 Jul: Breitbart: New York Post: Even Bernie Sanders Supporters Want Hillary Clinton Behind Bars
***A group of disheartened backers changted and waved signs outside an Infowars sponsored van emblazoned with the slogan, “Hillary for Prison 2016), according to Kayla Epstein of the Washington Post.
TWEET: Kayla Epstein, WaPo: Sanders supporters at Philly protest run over and cheer a “Hillary for prison” van sponsored by InfoWars…
Pew (Research) asked those consistent Sanders supporters whom they support in the general election. Ninety percent said they back Hillary Clinton…
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/25/new-york-post-even-bernie-sanders-supporters-want-hillary-clinton-behind-bars/
appropriately posted on WaPo’s “THE FIX” page. Bump works his magic on some dubious stats:
25 Jul: WaPo The Fix: 90 percent of unwavering Sanders supporters plan to vote for Clinton in November
By Philip Bump
Among the weird scenes from the first day of the Democratic convention in Philadelphia is this one. A truck sponsored by the conspiracy-theory site Infowars toting a billboard reading “Hillary for Prison 2016” rolled up to some pro-Bernie Sanders protesters. Infowars doesn’t fit neatly onto the political spectrum, but it’s by no means liberal. The Sanders supporters, though, liked what they saw…
So why so much outrage in Philadelphia? Delegates to party conventions are not normal members of political parties…
Pew did find that more-liberal Democrats — like those who backed Sanders in the primaries — felt more coldly to Republicans than more moderate ones. This makes sense…
There are plenty of Bernie Sanders supporters who are frustrated at Hillary Clinton, and some chunk of those voters will back Donald Trump in November. Most Democrats — even those who consistently supported Bernie Sanders in the primary — plan to back Hillary Clinton. Those Democrats are more likely to be moderate and, Pew’s data suggests, more willing to accept compromise.
That, it seems clear, isn’t the sort of person who would applaud a “Hillary Clinton for Prison” billboard…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/
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America is bigger than Bernie
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All too often the media is lead to the track of a story but like blinkered mules they do not move their gaze from the indicated route.
So very much like ‘climate scientist™’ and CO2.
Surely if any one gas in our atmosphere varies then it’s reasonable to assume that all gases in the atmosphere vary. Or is oxygen, ozone, nitrogen, water, etc., at a static amount? When will ‘climate scientist™’ get off their complacency and show us how the whole atmosphere has varied over time (since the last ice age?).
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***Guardian attempts to blame Infowars (without naming them!) for the chants of “Lock her up”:
26 Jul: Guardian: ‘Lock her up’: Sanders supporters adopt Trump’s attack line on Clinton
by Adam Gabbatt and Dan Roberts in Philadelphia
“I feel like I’ve been cheated, I feel like my brothers and sisters have been cheated, and I feel like it’s all her fault,” Minter said.
He said he was dissatisfied with “all the classified emails she’s let out using her own servers and using her own personal email and then you have the WikiLeaks, all the going behind people’s backs”…
Minter said he was not concerned at using an attack line associated with Trump and his supporters.
“It’s been something that Trump’s been saying for a while but I honestly believe she should be indicted.”
***Some supporters told the Guardian that the chant was not entirely spontaneous.
“Well, really it’s because a big truck with the sign ‘lock her up’ passed by,” said Sarah Hernandez, a 22-year-old chief marketing officer from Houston.
Minter, who had travelled with Hernandez to Philadelphia, pointed out that the truck actually had the message: “Hillary for prison.”
“Yes. It said: ‘Hillary for prison 2016’,” she said. “And someone started chanting: ‘Lock her up, lock her up’, and we all joined in.”
“Hillary for prison 2016” is a common message seen on pins and T-shirts at Republican rallies.
Tim Turner, 53, had travelled to Philadelphia from Indianapolis, Indiana. He had also noted the truck’s presence and was among those chanting.
“We just know that she’s not very honest,” he said.
“You know, I’ve never caught her in a criminal act. But I think she’s dirty.”…
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/25/lock-her-up-sanders-trump-clinton-chant
nice bit of cherry-picking, Guardian. however, we already know from Time Magazine that delegates inside the hall were chanting “Lock her up”…and they weren’t influenced by the Infowars’ truck:
25 Jul: Time: Democratic Convention Opens on an Ugly Note
From the opening prayer, in which Rev. Dr. Cynthia Hale invoked Clinton’s name, almost every reference of the presumptive Democratic nominee’s drew boos from hundreds of vocal Sanders delegates and supporters.
***Some delegates borrowed a chant from last week’s Republican convention in Cleveland, shouting, “Lock her up!”…
WELL WORTH READING ALL
http://time.com/4422889/democratic-convention-protests-opening/
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Just like we expeted.
Sanders pused the global warming scam that finacial is a plus for him
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I idenify as a black fulla.
My wife is Italian
I will never believe that white don’t matter.
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I idenify as a black fulla
My wife is Italian.
I WILL NEVER believe that white lives don’t matter
Hi
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just turned on the Convention TV coverage. CNN had big banner across the screen, saying first night was all about party unity, attacking Trump!!!!
it seems the real Nigel Farage replies to one of the comments:
Youtube: 1min19secs: Sarah Silverman To Bernie Or Bust: You’re Being Ridiculous At DNC 7/25/16
Comedian Sarah Silverman says that Bernie Sanders supporters who won’t vote for Hillary Clinton are “being ridiculous.”…
As the ovations subsided, though, Sanders supporters remained standing to chant “Bernie! Bernie!” After Silverman and Senator Al Franken tried to divert them to chants of “Unity! Unity!”, Silverman just spoke her mind: Can I just say to the Bernie or bust people, you’re being ridiculous.”…
(pat- AT 1min03sec SILVERMAN ADDS: THANK GOD THEY CAN FIX THIS IN POST???)
FROM COMMENTS:
Eric Mena: “thank god they could fix this at post” smh.
reply Tom Pirraglia: Did she not realize this was live?
reply David Leuba: Her career is over.
reply Nigel Farage: I hope you’re right m8t
reply yokai raizen: +Tom Pirraglia She says “oh, we’re live” right after.
reply Freedom Truthis: Comedy central never does anything without severe editing. Poor girl is so used to that environment lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjGEHIkZ7ss
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party unity:
25 Jul: WaPo: A day of humiliation for party chair underscores Democratic divide
By Robert Costa, Philip Rucker and Ed O’Keefe
What was supposed to be a morning of personal triumph for Debbie Wasserman Schultz — rallying her home-state delegation before opening the Democratic National Convention she had orchestrated — suddenly became one of humiliation.
“Shame!” people in the room jeered as the congresswoman addressed a Monday breakfast of the Florida delegation. “Shame!”
It was a cringe-worthy, nationally televised spectacle that exposed deep divisions within the Democratic Party and reopened raw wounds from the Hillary Clinton-Bernie Sanders primary battles. By the afternoon, Wasserman Schultz had disappeared here in Philadelphia, after also giving up her speaking slot and her ceremonial role gaveling the convention to order…
The party’s turmoil drove conversation in Philadelphia’s sweltering streets Monday, with elected officials and delegates agitated and alarmed that it was overshadowing the convention’s kickoff…
The DNC has begun an investigation of internal emails following the compromise of its network by hackers, and party officials braced for thousands more potentially embarrassing messages to surface in the coming days or weeks…
Many senior Democrats said additional firings may be necessary…
Even as the senator from Vermont urged his followers to unify behind Clinton, they displayed remarkable dissent all afternoon, and the convention was awash in anti-Clinton and anti-trade chants…
Complicating the party establishment’s push to bind together their ranks Monday were fuming donors who, while mostly aligned with Clinton and the DNC, felt themselves dragged into a spotlight they did not seek. Many were upset that their exchanges with party leaders were leaked — and by the way staffers belittled and mocked them in private correspondence…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-day-of-humiliation-for-party-chair-underscores-democratic-divide/2016/07/25/aaa9b512-5277-11e6-bbf5-957ad17b4385_story.html
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Engel won’t give up trying to implicate Russia:
VIDEO: 9mins32secs: 25 Jul: NBC Nightly News: Richard Engel: Watch Richard Engel’s Full Interview With Julian Assange
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/assange-no-proof-russia-is-behind-dnc-email-leak-731964995742
a taste:
25 Jul: LawNewz: Julian Assange: ‘No Proof Whatsoever’ Russians Are Behind DNC Hack
by Rachel Stockman
During an interview with NBC’s Richard Engel, Julian Assange said that “there is no proof whatsoever” that Russian intelligence sources are responsible for hacking thousands of Democratic National Committee emails…
‘There is no proof of that whatsoever. We have not disclosed our source, and of course, this is a diversion that’s being pushed by the Hillary Clinton campaign. That’s a meta-story. The real story is what these emails contain and they show collusion. The very top of the Democratic party, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is now being forced to resign,”Assange said during the interview.
“And other people from the party, which is meant to be neutral, subverting the process in order to make sure Hillary Clinton won the campaign,” he added…
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/julian-assange-no-proof-whatsoever-russians-are-behond-dnc-hack/
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Assange praises this investigative piece, but i can’t access it cos my monthly free quota is up:
26 Jul: NYT: In Hacked D.N.C. Emails, a Glimps of how Big Money Works
By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and STEVE EDER
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/us/politics/dnc-wikileaks-emails-fundraising.html?_r=0
reminder:
13 May: WSJ: Byron Tau: Hillary Clinton Holds $100,000-a-Head Fundraisers
On Wednesday, she attended two $100,000-a-head events in Englewood, N.J., and New York City…
Maureen White and Steven Rattner, two prominent Democratic fundraisers, hosted one of the Thursday fundraisers at their home in Manhattan. Mr. Rattner also was a prominent businessman and served in the Obama administration. The second Thursday event was at the home of Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent New York businesswoman and supporter of Mrs. Clinton and Democratic candidates. On Wednesday, architect Jon Stryker and hedge fund manager Orin Kramer played host.
Six-figure fundraisers are a new frontier in presidential politics, made possible by a 2014 Supreme Court case that tossed a key contribution limit governing how much donors could give across the board in a single election cycle. As a result, campaigns and parties can now fundraise in tandem with each other…
In April, the campaign held an event at the home of actor George Clooney. The event cost $33,400 to attend, though donors who contributed $353,400 could sit at the head table with Mr. Clooney.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/05/13/hillary-clinton-hosts-100000-a-head-fundraisers/
so funny how Clinton apologists, including the many in our own MSM, never let this bother them!
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