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By Jo Nova
Shh: The great Power Grid Necromancers are at work
And you thought Blackouts were caused by bad management, but really, it’s “Climate Change”. The poor grid managers now have to cope with floods, fires, heatwaves and a tenth-of-a-degree of warming every decade, you know. It’s not their fault. It’s not the Ministers fault. It’s not the fault of the solar power glut, or the wind drought, or the lack of spinning inertia, the dearth of despatchable power, or the byzantine complexity of managing a grid full of unreliable generators being randomly unreliable. The grid is not more fragile because we built 100,000 kilometers of long delicate high-voltage-interconnectors, swaying in the wind, and made of cheap imported steel because we can’t afford to make proper steel ourselves. No!
It’s your fault the blackouts are coming. You didn’t ride your bike, you didn’t eat tofu and crickets, you didn’t buy enough solar panels and you drove your car to work, you planet-monster. What did you expect?
Climate Change is coming for your electricity grid.
It took four writers, five advisors, several editors and probably buckets of money to write an obsequious article radiating nonsense. It’s like a form of mass hypnosis — training the serfs to blame Exxon, and forgive their inept, traitorous Grid Managers, for their incompetent blackouts.
The answer to every problem on Earth apparently, is to buy more solar panels, install more wind farms and use child slaves in the Congo so the weather will be perfect.
The excuse for every bureaucrat failure is “climate change”:
The World’s Power Grids are Failing as the Planet Warms
By Eamon Farhat, Misha Savic, Fiona MacDonald, and Mark Chediak, Bloomberg
The bad news for Martinovic and hundreds of millions of people around the world is that the risk of outages is getting worse. Hotter summers mean spikes in demand for cooling, as high temperatures cause wires to sag and risk sparking forest fires. Upgrades to power infrastructure haven’t kept pace, even as efforts to reduce use of fossil fuels make electricity distribution more crucial.
Millions of households in Houston suffered blackouts in the aftermath of Hurricane Beryl last week, losing air conditioning as sweltering heat followed the storm. Hitting emerging and developed economies, outages from Ecuador to India in recent weeks offer a foretaste of coming disruption.
Unstable networks create instability for businesses, roil politics and threaten lives….
All those unreliable generators are making the grid more unreliable, so hurry, we need even more of them.
Pay us more money, pay everyone lots of money.
Global Power Grids Require Trillions of Investment
Expanding the grid will cost about $24.1 trillion to meet net-zero goals by 2050, outpacing the investment needed in renewable-power capacity, according to BloombergNEF.
“The whole power system was built and designed in one climatic era and now is being asked to work in a different climatic era,” said Michael Webber, a professor of energy at the University of Texas at Austin. “It just means more things can go wrong.”
The Earth is warming at 0.13°C every decade. Plant “hardiness” zones are shifting by, hold your breath, 13 miles per decade. The permafrost line has shifted 80 miles north in Canada. Plants can move, you know, but high-voltage lines can’t. It’s so unfair.
If only expert climate models could have predicted this thirty years ago, so we could build power lines 50 miles north…
Most blackouts occur when big chunks of supply or demand come on or off suddenly. Damage from storms, a burst of renewable generation or spikes in usage can all cause outages where the network isn’t resilient enough.
Climate change affects power distribution in lots of ways. Extreme heat increases demand for cooling, while reducing the efficiency of solar panels, crimping supply. High temperatures can cause lines to sag and transformers to overheat, leading to equipment failing and increasing risks of fires.
So solar panels don’t work as well in hot weather when everyone needs their airconditioners on. I mean, who could have seen that coming, apart from a million material engineers?
It’s so unfair.
I live in Alberta where peak demand is in the winter. The miniscule amount of warming we have seen over the last 50 years should be helping us but don’t hold your breath waiting for the climastrologists to admit that. We are adding wind and solar like gangbusters here so it is only a matter of time before we experience brownouts and blackouts. Speaking of that, wind is currently generating 23 MW out of 4748 MW of installed capacity for a stunning 0.5% usage. Thankfully we still have enough real generation to keep our lights on.
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Speaking of electricity,I just had an epiphany.All those people driving around in”Electric Cars”patting themselves on the back for being such good citizens siting on a VERY large battery waiting for it to self combust and hoping that they can get out of said car in time.
I bet that they are NOT told about THAT little gem.
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>Climate Change causes Electricity Grid failure now
Making the days longer too:
Length of days on Earth is increasing at ‘unprecedented’ rate
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13638551/days-longer-unprecedented-climate-change.html
Also on MSN. One commenter, Chasse Court, wrote – Story just went from mildly interesting to farcical with two words “climate change”
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Labor’s renewables crusade makes an enemy of our strengths
Unless Labor starts prioritising energy security, its Future Made in Australia policy will instead deliver a future made in China.
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Of course! Climate change caused the windmills to be built, and the windmills are slowing the Earth down. You can never get energy for nothing you know..
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of course the slowing of the earth is nothing to do with the drag created by other bodies in the universe – dont they know that earth’s speed of rotation has been reducing for – well about 4.2 billion years – we used to have 400 days per year – now we have 365 – and by the way I would have thought that the mountain ranges like the Himalayas that are still rising might also have something to do with it?
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you are getting rotation orbit and speed all confused.
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It makes sense to me Professor.
However Canberra people understand things differently!
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>high temperatures cause wires to sag
This is new?
I worked on line design back in the 80s and it was old then.
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Yeah and railway lines to buckle.
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MODERN rail lines are PROPERLY laid on concrete sleepers (“ties” to our US cousins), which in turn are PROPERLY bedded in heavy ballast gravel .
The real kicker is that SERIOUS modern railways use continuously-welded rail. This means that the “ride” is smoother, so less wear and tear on the running gear AND on the joints in rail .sections. The classic “clickety-clack” rhythm also goes away. Ultimately, though, bureaucrats who cut engineering and safety margins are the real menace.
The eco-nazis are habitual liars and frauds and should be ruthlessly mocked at every turn. Well may they declare that Gaia is on their side, but they might eventually notice that ‘Mother Nature” is an equal-opportunity BITCH.
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The reason that welded rails dont buckle in heat is because they are stretched by heating before tying them to the sleepers. – I used to work for British Rail in the dim and distant past.
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The railways in the iron ore Pilbara region have been designed by expert engineers who know about engineering fundamentals like strength of materials and coefficients of thermal expansion that we were in my lectures in the 1970s.
Knowledge of engineering is not the problem.
The problem is poor engineers and non-engineers with “ambition” forcing poor decisions on the good engineers.
It would not surprise me to hear that these Pilbara ore trains – my employer used them at Robe River back then – are proposed to be restricted to a maximum speed of 10 km/hr because that speed allows the train to stop in adequate distance before hitting any example of natural wildlife crossing the tracks.
Let the top engineers into the political decision making processes, cast out the greens with ambition to preserve the natural world at all costs. It has gone past stupid.
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>High temperatures can cause … transformers to overheat
I just can’t….ok I can – Overheated transformers cause high temperatures – there, I did it.
I would add, in respect to 1. Overloading and as they do in parts of the US especially, lines companies extracting every last drop of profit from transformers before forking out for or in lieu of an upgrade to a larger capacity transformer.
Transformers can run hot beyond their specified limit for a short time, say 1/2 hour more or less, so if you can get away with that why not?
There’s a screed of literature around the economics of this; here’s a random example:
POWER TRANSFORMER LIFE-CYCLE COST REDUCTION
Glenn Swift, Alpha Power Technologies Manitoba Hydro
Tom Molinski, Winnipeg, Canada Winnipeg, Canada
https://www.idc-online.com/technical_references/pdfs/electrical_engineering/POWER_TRANSFORMER_LIFE-CYCLE_COST_REDUCTION.pdf
LOSS-OF-LIFE ANALYSIS
ECONOMIC ANALYSIS
Conclusions next.
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CONCLUSIONS
This paper demonstrates a methodology to quantitatively determine the savings that can be realized by keeping power transformers in service longer than is the present practice.
The final recommendation for the particular case studied here was to delay replacement by nine years. This was considered to be a judicious choice since the loss of life and hot spot temperature both start to increase exponentially and the ‘savings’ curve starts to flatten out.
It is shown that it is more economical to overload existing transformers and accept the penalty of increased loss of life, than to relieve the loading by installing larger or more transformers. It is recognized that such a new policy, if followed, will lead to a greater dependence on the short-term or emergency overload capabilities of existing transformers and might increase the use of mobile transformers in the event of an outage or failure.
Based on loss of life and probability of failure analyses, it was determined that the risk of failure due to overloading for loading up to 160% of rating, is very small.
Sophisticated on-line transformer monitoring and relay systems for dissolved gas analysis and other important transformer parameters can be used as an added information source to safely improve transformer loadability and instill confidence in a longer in-service life policy for large transformers. A second benefit is that these devices are capable of alarming to indicate that a potential problem is developing so that it can be dealt with before serious damage occurs.
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>High temperatures can cause … transformers to overheat
Says – Eamon Farhat, Misha Savic, Fiona MacDonald, and Mark Chediak, Bloomberg.
Maybe if they looked at actual transformer temperatures they might learn a bit about what they are writing about.
Scroll down the Swift & Molinski PDF previous to:
Fig. 4. Peak Load, Peak Hot Spot Temperature and Accumulated Loss of Life
PEAK WINDING (HOT SPOT) TEMPERATURE
Highest winding temperature during the year shown
PRESENT TRIP 120oC
Remember, the Case Study is: the Manitoba Hydro Minitonas Terminal Station Bank No. 4
Since when do ambient Manitoba temperatures reach the 120C trip?
Where on the planet do any temperatures reach the 120C trip?
Ok, if the cooling system is substandard or fails at a lower temperature when on-load the trip threshold will be reached. But that’s not due to the ambient temperature – that’s a cooling failure.
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“5. Voltage Fluctuations”
Ah, that gust of wind, that 50% cloud in the sky.. Expect shorter transformer lives in the future!
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Amusingly enough, transformers function BECAUSE of “voltage fluctuations”; 50-60 sine-wave voltage cycles per SECOND, per phase.
It is this phenomenon that is responsible for Nikola Tesla’s Alternating current, comprehensively beat Thomas Edison’s Direct Current system. The DC around which ALL of the “battery boosters” have built their own house of cards. And that is before we delve into Lithium Ion battery fires, and the “interesting” issue of the serious electronics needed to turn the battery “DC” into AC for actual transmission.
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???
“PRESENT TRIP 120oC”
OK – I see now it is enlarged
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Conductor sag and wind induced blowout (deflection) are part and parcel of transmission line design.
Typical Sag charts: https://www.progress-energy.com/assets/www/docs/shared/spec-book/carolinas/05-conductors-overhead.pdf
Blowout: https://polesnwires.com/articles/conductor-blowout/
Another issue is ice loading for sag and tension. In some areas, this is a limiting factor, not temperature, or wind. Central/Midwest USA line stresses can be dominated by icing conditions.
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Lance >Typical Sag charts
Winner – I was waiting for that.
>Blowout
Worked as a young drafty where there were lines past lakes that large wildfowl flew in and out of. Engineers had to come up with triangular configurations to separate the conductors to prevent clash and arc.
Designated by bird – like Swan Construction.
Other configurations where large birds perched on cross-arms – result: fried bird, and arc-over prevention required.
Saw a video from China recently showing conductors clashing and arcing in wind. I’ve worked with Chinese system design engineers in NZ. They were way better than that so I was surprised to see it.
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All very technical. Have you also taken into account the number of transformers that are manufactured in China??
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If we weren’t meant to eat animals, why are they made of delicious, mouth watering meat?
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Same reason those who crawled into their isolation shelters, wore masks and hoarded toilet paper gave me a great big hug when they entered our business. Hugging was a successful genetic trait. That was before modified RNA gene therapy where those who now enjoy a physical advantage will have a gene inserted for elongated thumbs and flat faces to house flattened eyeballs. Mind you many will die being blind-sided by an electric bus.
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What people don’t realise is that carrots have feelings.
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And fungi are misnamed. It’s no fun at all.
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Vegans shouldn’t eat fungi either because fungi are more closely related to animals than plants.
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There’s mushroom for debate.
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Carrots are people too.
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Being Scots/Irish I represent that remark.
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Define “carrot woman”?
Geoff S
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Baxter black wrote about that years ago –
“A Vegetarian’s Nightmare – a dissertation on plant’s rights”
https://foodpolicyforthought.com/2013/05/25/a-vegetarians-nightmare/
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The power system worked perfectly fine until the Left started imposing their anti-science and anti-engineering ideas upon it.
Oh, and the “climatic era” hasn’t changed. We are still thankfully in a rare, warm, interglacial which is unfortunately rapidly coming to an end.
How will the world keep warm as we seriously enter global cooling without coal, gas, nuclear and real hydro (not SH2) power?
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DM
“How will the world keep warm as we seriously enter global cooling without coal, gas, nuclear and real hydro (not SH2) power?”
But surely a polliy will direct that the energy in avalanches far exceeds that energy that the plebs need [or are allowed] to keep barely-alive, so it will be harvested.
The polly will then allow practical people to actually harness the power of avalanching snow … by some arbitrary deadline – like next Wednesday, and take the plaudits for wishing the means to an end….
Before retiring to a well-paid PR job with Avalanchewatts LLC …
You know it makes sense.
Auto
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The alleged professor of energy’s use of ‘climatic era’ is – obvious to anyone else – a climactic error.
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Privatisation and price gouging started the rot and the green nonsense with its tissue paper wind and solar infrastructure will finish it off.
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Oh c’mon, it’s a bit silly to conflate the idiocy of a fully “renewable” grid with veganism, the most effective and rational approach to the human relationship with other species. Whatever people should or shouldn’t do in terms of fossil fuel use, diet or whatever else, the decision to replace reliable generation with unreliable wind and solar harvesting technology stands and falls on its own terms.
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The relationship between humans and animals is a perfectly normal, natural and effective one based on a predator / prey paradigm.
Individual humans are free to eat a plant-based diet if they wish but shouldn’t force it upon others.
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Well, no it’s not. That’s the point. The people in the distant past were effectively vegan, we today are not. And that’s the problem. However, I think you are mistaking veganism for a diet, when it’s really about all the ways we interact with other animals. It’s about respecting the inherent value and dignity of other species whenever we can, just as we do with other people.
Agreed. At the end of the day, veganism is a voluntary personal program. But like any effort to make for better moral conditions, in the end we often do impose laws to enforce agreed standards. Already, some elements of vegan philosophy are required by the law. So at some point whether with other people or other animals, we can be forced to do what is regarded as the right thing. The trick is in agreeing what’s right.
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I’m a second degree vegetarian. I only eat animals which don’t eat other animals.
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Same with me, except I eat chickens which eat just about anything. And fish, who might also eat anything. But mostly I eat herbivorous animals. They do the hard work of turning plants into meat for me.
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Almost all fish are carnivores. Except Whiting.
There is nothing else to eat. It all starts with phytoplankton, then krill, tiny prawns. And baleen whales have cut out the middle man.
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Actually I am modelling the CO2 cycles in the Northern Hemisphere which can be explained by Henry’s Law in principle, peaking in the heat of spring and then a massive bloom of phytoplankton which drags CO2 below survival level. It fits very well. Unlike trees and grasses, phytoplankton have a lifespan in days and grow exponentially without limit. Extra CO2 from summer heating produces a massive bloom and then in usual predator/prey cycle, collapse below average levels.
The official story from NASA/NOAA is that CO2 peaks in the spring because of trees growing leaves. I do not have the heart to tell them that that is exact reverse of the truth. But how many biologists work for NASA?
We have a great example examples of a CO2 induced phytplankton bloom after the 2019 Australian bushfires as the CO2 blew East over the South Pacific.
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Of course if they eat a bit of seaweed too, they could have invented nori sushi.
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TdeF,
Whiting eat worms and crustaceans . There are very few vegetarians in the piscatorial domain and most of them are very small . Even the vegetarian fish will eat other protein when its freely available . Luderick are examples of this . Just about everything that swims eats something else even if its carrion . Feeding frenzies are common and are an amazing sight….
[Found in the bin. – LVA]
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Are you sure Whiting aren’t carnivores? I catch them using Pippi or Prawn on the hook.
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There is plenty of evidence that early humans and modern humans before European contact (e.g. Australian Aborigines) were mostly meat eaters and hunters.
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Probably why normal humans still have “canine” teeth.as well as incisors and molars..
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And probably why Australian Aborigines were often depicted carrying spears.
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Tel,
You do not need a spear to kill your unwanted newborn prior to eating, which was, as best we can establish, widespread cultutal practice.
Geoff S
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People in the past ate animals, for sure, though not necessarily mostly animals. Depends on where they were and what was available. According to a book I read about Aboriginal diets, coastal people ate more animals than plants, but in the drier regions it was the other way around. But veganism doesn’t mean that people never eat or use animals. It’s about being as fair as we can, when we can. That’s important today because there are not just a few million hunter/gatherers on the planet, but billions of modern people who see other species as somehow beneath them. The indigenous Australians, like most ancients, were simply part of the biosphere on relatively equal terms. And that’s what I mean about fairness – the ancients were just as subject to the vagaries of the natural world as all the other species, so it was a little more of a level playing field.
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It’s nice to know that hunter-gatherers are vegan.
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I read a book once too.
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I must have imagined all those droughts, floods and bushfires.
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Those I’ve encountered who claim to be on vegan diets seem to have a different opinion to that. They seem to be very strict about not having any animal product in their diet.
But I do know that they “use” animals for things like horse riding, mowing (keeping the grass down), clothing fibre, and more.
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All headed very far off topic. The point in the post is to mock the idea that “climate change” causes blackouts. If that is true then anything that reduces CO2 emissions (including veganism) becomes a “tool” to make electricity grids stronger. It is a stupid line of reasoning from the start. The idea that solar panels or wind turbines, gas masks on cows, EVs, or fake beef burgers would improve our grid is it’s own joke.
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“they” don’t
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Really?
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A news report claiming “would even” is evidence of nothing and certainly not evidence of it happening.
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No, not silly. Really serious stuff. In fact, so serious the City of Yarra Yarra, which is a municipality in the inner suburbs of Melbourne (Australia, if you’re from OS) passed a motion encouraging all residents to go meat free to prevent climate change. I kid you not and even though this article is slightly tongue in cheek, the councillors of the socialist republic of Yarra Yarra were fair dinkum.
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That sort of ‘decree’ would just make me want to go out and have a nice big steak and veg for lunch.
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Perhaps skip the veg – replace them with eggs to continue the animal product theme.
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Graeme M,
Rather depends on what the word means. Resorting to the Concise Oxford:
This strikes me as nothing more than a personal choice, and neither more nor less “effective and rational” than other choices.
I get the idea that your concept of veganism goes a deal further than that dictionary definition because, in a later comment, you criticised:
I suppose you have in mind a picture of the “tree of life”, with man at the top and working down through the mammals, birds, reptiles, etc. I don’t think the relationship is that simple for most people. I have heard Peter Singer complaining that, for the money we lavish on our pets, we could save the lives of umpteen ill children in India. Doesn’t this show that, at least in some circumstances, ordinary people value “lesser” animals above other humans? And it’s funny that *Singer* is the one arguing to value humans more than animals.
Perhaps you’re from a different school of thought from Prof. Singer, but I doubt it’s any more “rational”.
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Apropos to who’s beneath who, here’s a Churchill quote:
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And, depending on your religion or lack thereof, you can eat a pig more readily than a dog or cat
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Three legged pig? Can’t eat a friend all at once! (Apologies – old joke….)
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Veganism is different from being a “vegan”. Veganism is simply the idea that people be fair to other animals whenever they can. A vegan, on the other hand, is usually thought of as a person who strives to do that to the greatest possible degree. And yes, enacting veganism IS a personal choice (except in those cases where the law demands some elements of it).
Why is it the most effective, rational approach? Because it provides a rationale for being fair to other animals, something only humans can do. There is nothing you could do that aims to treat another animal – or person – fairly that is not consistent with veganism. For example, laws that govern animal welfare only exist because of veganism, or more exactly the underlying concepts that provide the foundation for veganism.
As to the Singer thing, I think he probably takes the view that on the whole, people matter more than other animals. But no, I don’t think of people as being at the top of a tree of life. What I was getting at is that we should regard the interests of other animals with the same consideration we give to the interests of human beings. And that Singer agrees with.
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In that case, given they are different, it’s you who is conflating “the idiocy of a fully “renewable” grid with veganism” because Jo wrote “vegan” and not “veganism”.
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Fair point, but what I was getting at originally is that being “vegan” has nothing to do with whether or not a renewable grid is a good idea. People can claim to be vegan, but only because there is a philosophy called veganism. Veganism doesn’t demand that people be vegans.
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Graeme M,
Sorry, I worded my comment badly. The “tree of life” was the simplistic view I thought you were accusing non-vegan(ist)s of holding. The business of esteeming pets over fellow-humans was intended as a counter example.
I have a feeling most people hang priorities on a network of life, not a tree. They value creatures close to them in their network more highly than ones more remote. I suspect this applies to you and Prof. Singer too, it’s just that you have opted for less conventional networks (though I suspect you probably still have your family members near the heart). While you say “we should regard the interests of other animals with the same consideration we give to the interests of human beings”, that objective sinks under its own contradictions. E.g. what’s your ethical stance on having a door on the pantry? A human can open it and gorge himself, but the poor rat must look elsewhere. Etc.
It is enjoyable listening to Peter Singer. He’s a far smarter man than me, and his thought experiments are entertaining, but they give more than a slight whiff of sophistry.
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My problem with “Global Warming” is that NASA just reported that it is actually cooling. But then they produced counter-intuitive arguments to negate the apparent cooling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
It is however a fact that our planet Earth is on a collision orbit with The Sun that will one day suck us into its all-consuming oblivion. Long before that happens Earth will dehydrate and shrivel to cosmic dust. In the meantime let’s enjoy life and be happy!
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Agreed, but enjoying life and being happy does not appear to be part of the ethos of those who would rule us, or those silly enough to think humans can change the climate of the planet, especially by following a vegan diet or trying to run functioning societies on intermittent substandard electricity generation.
The article title is tongue in cheek/sarcasm, but that’s actually what is being dictated to us by those who would rule us.
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We should abandon toxic W & S ASAP and only build BASE-LOAD energy that we know will last us to 2100.
Human flourishing has proven that we live in the safest period in Human history, so why change to unreliable, expensive energy that destroys our environments and only lasts 15 to 20 years?
We also know that W CF is only about 30% and S CF is only 15%, so why waste trillions of $ for nothing?
Why can’t the so called scientists or pollies or MSM etc just look up the data and wake up?
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No need to worry. The pollies and MSM are fully woke. Only unreliables can save us.
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It’s 2024 and nobody has their feet on the ground anymore.
In a world where public servants have become “masters of the universe” and their masters, the elected politicians, have maximum focus on their “Retirement Funds” at all times, there is only one solution for the masses:
bury your head in your mobile phone.
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I expect that people will soon be buried with their mobile phones. It has become their identity. And who knows, life after death? You may get a call from God. And you would hate to miss it.
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Coffins could soon comes with USB C plugs for recharging your phone. There is however a fear of fire. With a smell of sulphur and brimstone.
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KK,
These bureraucratic types who are doing a lot of damage to common sense and energy reality, have you ever identified, met with one, discussed these contentious matters, got a good view of their side of the argument?
I have long been interested in what moticates activist climate change policy makers. Someone in federal government seems to have told AEMO that they are only able to model and discuss scenarios for future electricity that comply with Net Zero Carbon targets by 2035 and 2050. This single instruction, repeated in some AEMO reports, is the basic reason why we are to be saddled with renewables.
Now, name the person or the position of the person who instructed AEMO with these severe limits. Then, try to talk to discover the motivation. I have tried to do this but failed because people decline to speak.
Geoff S
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If only we had warning that poles and wires were susceptible to storms , especially in South Australia .
This is from January 1936 .
https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/resource/PRG+1724/15/21-35?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR256R4Pz8Iv-bZkh4zJ42jjCiOybpGP33id_LJ2umKIsojqfsbMzrndxio_aem_B7pVl-rpyT9QgG9BWjL2vg
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Co2 levels are now about 423 ppm and since 1990 have increased by about another 73 ppm today.
Population from 5.3 billion to 8.1 billion.
World life expectancy from 64 years in 1990 to about 73 years today.
So in just 34 years we’ve increased the Human population by 2.8 billion and yet the Human population didn’t reach the first 1 billion until 1800
and didn’t reach 2 billion until 1927 and didn’t reach 2.5 billion until 1950.
And all this Human flourishing has happened in the last 0.1% of our Human history.
Humans were fully evolved by at least 300,000 years ago, if not further back in time.
So can anyone observe any dangerous CC since 1990 or an existential threat or climate crisis or emergency or…..?
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/WLD/world/population
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Forgive me, I can barley spell Science.
It has given me air travel and air conditioning along with a youthful fear of nuclear annihilation, but no Moon vacation.
(I am now also phobic about laboratories and Public Health officials.)
But how are all the others ppms doing?
Are we only allowed a million ppms, so if one ppm has puppies, other ppms must die?
I hope Science is obsessing about the other ppms.
What happens if oxygen looses some ppms but nitrogen gets some more?
I may have PPMS.
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>Forgive me, I can barley spell Science.
Look up – Last yeer I kudn’t spel Engineer. Now I are won
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Other NZ variation began – Sux munce ago…
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Post Pandemic Morbidity Syndrome?!
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It’s obvious who is to blame for global warming. It’s you Western Australians and Queenslanders. After all, it’s you guys (and gals) who are exporting literally shiploads of gas and coal to northern hemisphere for combustion into CO2. I blame Jo Nova and any contributors who live in the Sunshine state. It’s all your fault.
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>I blame Jo Nova and any contributors who live in the Sunshine state
This should be worth watching…..
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Thank you Ross. It’s an honour.
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Well, it just isn’t working, it’s freezing here today.
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Exactly! No sign of global warming at all in the highlands! Its 0.7deg outside, the wind chill is very noticeable.
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Ross, I’m not convinced the Queenslanders are really pulling their weight in order to increase global warming- at least not in their own backyard. They are seeing snow fall in areas in which it is not that common…
https://au.news.yahoo.com/once-decade-weather-event-hits-222433991.html
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Again the data proves that NON OECD co2 emissions are to blame for the increase per year since 1990.
OECD co2 emissions per year have dropped slightly while NON OECD emissions have increased by 14 + billion tons p.a in 2022.
That’s if you’re concerned about increased co2 emissions.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?country=OECD+%28GCP%29~Non-OECD+%28GCP%29
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Non-OECDs are also the root of the population increase, we will be having a few billion fewer in the West with our birth rates.
CO2 per person on Earth must be dropping.
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When Trump becomes President again and abandons the Paris Accords again, I wonder how much the woke countries of the world will follow his lead?
In Australia, I think our woke Governments will redouble their efforts to further destroy the power stations and stop people driving and cooking with natural gas in a last desperate effort to “save the planet” since America will be allowed to produce CO2 again.
Of course, America’s production of CO2 is insignificant compared to China, and Australia’s is barely noticeable, but nobody ever accused the Left of being logical or sensible or even intelligent…
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Climate Change was NEVER about the climate. It’s about totalitarian control by governments. Businesses should be controlled by governments. And the Wuhan Flu, the Chinese military bioweapon was our fault. As were the bans on Australian products. Woke is Marxist Post Modernism. Climate Change is Marxism.
Instead of fake Green jobs, the government should be fighting to stop the closure of our largest plastics manufacturer, QENOS by reducing taxes. Like all companies it has been hit by the Safeguard Mechanism which requires 35% CO2 taxes on the top 250 companies in the country. Even the public service like MMBW. But it doesn’t get any press. The ONLY company in Australia which can actually recycle plastics is being closed by the Australian government. No one cares. Certainly not the Greens.
Albanese will also spend a Billion $$$ to create fake slave jobs making or recycling solar panels in the Hunter Valley? Really? Why? How much would it cost to save the 800 Jobs in QUENOS across 18 facilities? Daniel Andrews paid all the wages to keep the jobs at Alcoa in Portland. And bought a timber mill just to close it down two years later. Why?
These are Communists who are slaves to China and the CCP. As were Paul Keating, Bob Hawke and the rest. And just want to shut down all Australian manufacturing, transport, agriculture.
And especially they want to stop AUKUS. While paying lip service to it. It will all be on the never ever.
It’s nothing to do with the weather, which is fine.
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Here is a reminder of Hawke the Communist.
http://www.geoffstuff.com/fabian.pdf
Geoff S
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IIRC Oz sinks a lot more CO2 than we produce all ready.
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So no reason to panic in Australia.
Antarctica been cooling for the last two decades.
https://profhorn.aos.wisc.edu/wxwise/AckermanKnox/chap14/climate_spatial_scales.html#:
https://www.antarctica.gov.au/news/2023/cool-change-for-west-antarctica/
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The fantasy that the planet is a shiny golf ball is not science. There are quite independent oceans and regions which behave very differently. And have quite different cycles of weather, all derived from the oceans which contain 99.9% of all surface heat. And from which all weather starts and all water comes and where life started. So we humans study the sky, because that is where we live. Not the oceans which feed us with H2O and CO2, from which all life is made. Worship the stars certainly. But life comes from the oceans and all the weather.
So the idea that the water dominated Southern Hemisphere is quite different should come as no surprise at all. You will also find the Pacific is very different to the much smaller Atlantic. Or the Southern Ocean.
Oceans dominate and create all weather on earth. So we study the atmosphere and know precious little about the ocean. It’s not very smart.
And when the vaunted models fail totally, the Climate Scientists blame El Nino, an unpredictable ocean phenomenon while simultaneously claiming their models work. Even the very concept of a single weather pattern and temperature pattern for the planet is borderline crazy.
Look closely at the very different and meaningful weather pattern from real thermometers in six cities in Europe. Prof Carl Otto Weiss.
But they mix temperatures from all over the world, mainly proxies, to create a meaningless monotonic curve which looks more like CO2. And still cannot get them to match.
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>You will also find the Pacific is very different to the much smaller Atlantic. Or the Southern Ocean
Not quibbling, just a finer detail.
In the SH the major oceans – Pacific, Indian, Atlantic – transport excess solar-driven Tropical heat to the Southern Ocean where it readily dissipates to space.
In the NH there’s not the high latitude polar expanse that there is in the Southern Ocean. So there’s an accumulation of heat in the Nth Atlantic in particular that doesn’t dissipate nearly as efficiently as it does in the Sth Pacific/Indian/Atlantic Southern Ocean.
Climatistas despair at the “warming Nth Atlantic”, contriving all manner of doom scenarios, but that’s just the way the currents are constrained in the Nth.
They also claim the solar excess for their theory but ‘nuther story.
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My view is only that there may be quite self contained systems which are quite independent. Yes, breaking the Pacific into North and South may be more effective. But no one is looking at this idea of largely independent cells. People do not realise that proposing the entire planet as one system with one input and one result is an extreme view which may not relate to reality in a short term like a few hundred years. And so instead of getting good correlations with drivers like ocean currents, you just get minestrone soup results.
I am repeatedly struck by the structure detail in the Weiss graph, which corresponds closely to the European history behind Australia, not some idea of a bunch of proxies from the South Atlantic or Antarctica in 1700. And stuck again by how closely a very simple two sine curves perfectly fits and even credibly predicts the future. At least 12 inflexion points predicted perfectly culminating with a flat topped peak in the 2010s. Correlation is not proof, but this fit is not only extraordinary, it means the results for Europe are quite distinct from the UAH world satellite temperatures and proxies of debatable and perhaps inadequate accuracy and response time.
The supercomputer models of the whole planet just come up with near flat lines and warmists oh and ahh over any upward bump when the whole thing is remarkably unremarkable.
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And I have always wondered quietly what the ‘scientists’ did to create world temperatures from 1600? Before even the invention of temperature. And the near zero population of the Southern Hemisphere at least below the tropic of Capricorn (apologies to aboriginal leaders, past, present and future and on whose land and keyboard this is written) How do you do tree rings for the 72% of the world which is deep ocean plus the treeless Continent of Antarctica which is as big as South America.
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Another way of saying there’s a lot more land and less ocean in the Northern Hemisphere, especially the Atlantic. Different dynamic, smaller gyres and a direct connection between the pot boiler in the Caribbean and Northern Europe. And of course very different climates with places so far from the ocean.
It was also felt by Europeans that the world was unbalanced. So the search for the ‘Great Southern Land’, James Cook’s secret agenda after the trip to observe the transit of Venus in Tahiti. And many more trips. He sailed around Antarctica three times without spotting it, driven away by Adiabatic winds.
But also the name, Australia, means Southern Land. Australis being Latin for Southern. It’s not something Australians know. And first appeared on a map by Matthew Flinders, explorer and cartographer when locked up for seven years in French Mauritius as a British spy. He was dead at 40. And even his body was lost in the graveyard, only being discovered in 2019 by archeologists in preparations for a railway line.
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And of course, no Antarctica. Just thin ice 4 metres thick on average. Which is likely why there is an ozone hole in the Southern hemisphere and not the North. Time will show the entire Carbon Tetra Flouride story was a scam. Fake science. And only the start of making things up, a precursor to the curse of carbon dioxide. Is water going to be the next toxic industrial output?
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>NH 15.2C, SH 13.3C
But…but…Global Average…Anomaly…Etc.
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>The Earth is warming at 0.13°C every decade
Meh.
GFS 7 day forecast for SH is a +0.8 swing from 0:
GFS 2m-T Anomaly
http://www.karstenhaustein.com/reanalysis/gfs0p5/GFS_anomaly_timeseries_global.html
I have no idea where that’s coming from but it’s usually Antarctic fluctuations. Not this time I don’t think and not SH side of Tropics so must be Mid Latitudes somewhere.
The “record” high pressure system has moved from NZ so that may be something – dry and cold to wet and warm (well, sort of warm).
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Friends of Science Newsletter #412
https://friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=2944
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Topics include:
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Why Hurricanes Intensify!
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Net Zero Averted Temperature Increase
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Carbon Dioxide and a Warming Climate Are Not Problems
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Scientists Debate Gulf Stream’s Role in North Atlantic Currents
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Powering Human Advancement: Why the World Needs Affordable and Reliable Energy
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Battery Baloney, Hydrogen Hype and Green Fairy Tales
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The Energy Institute Publishes Misleading Primary Energy Data
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Sorry. Was meant to be in Wednesday thread.
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Just a reminder to all to buy twice as much meat so the actions of vegans won’t make a difference.😆
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Here’s part of Peter Dutton’
s press release about Nuclear energy.
And note up to 28,000 klms destroyed for Labor + Greens + Teals’ toxic W & S disasters.
Here’s part of his speech…..
“A key advantage of modern zero-emissions nuclear plants is they can be plugged into existing grids. This means they can effectively replace retired or retiring coal plants and avoid much of the new spending needed for Labor’s ‘renewables-only’ system, including new transmission poles and wires. All of which will be passed on in the form of higher bills”.
“Labor’s approach requires imposing 58 million solar panels, 3,500 new industrial wind turbines, and up to 28,000 kilometres of new transmission lines across the country. Energy experts have warned the cost of Labor’s rollout will be between $1.2 trillion and $1.5 trillion”.
“No country in the world relies solely on solar and wind as Labor is proposing. By contrast, there are 32 countries operating zero-emissions nuclear plants. Another 50 countries are looking to do so”.
“Of the world’s 20 largest economies, Australia is the only one not using nuclear energy, or moving towards using it”.
“Our plan will deliver a net-zero electricity grid by 2050 and a strong and resilient economy. It will set our country up for decades to come”.
“At the front of this next wave of growth will be those communities which host zero-emissions nuclear plants”.
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Here’s the link to Peter Dutton’s press release on Nuclear Energy.
https://www.peterdutton.com.au/dutton-littleproud-obrien-media-release-australias-energy-future/
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Fortunately Donald Trump loves meat and fast food so non-woke Americans will be able to keep their favourite foods.
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Yesterday’s Resolve Poll has Labor’s primary vote on 28% and the Coalition’s primary vote on 38%.
Here’s part of the report.
“Labor and Albanese’s slide continues in Resolve poll, as major parties tied
Published: July 16, 2024 8.01am AEST”
“A national Resolve poll for Nine newspapers, conducted July 10–13 from a sample of 1,603, had Labor and the Coalition tied at 50–50 by 2022 election preference flows, a one-point gain for the Coalition since June by my calculations”.
“Resolve does not usually give a two-party estimate, but this is the first time Labor would not have led during this term by 2022 preference flows. Until this year, Resolve was easily the most pro-Labor pollster”.
“Primary votes were 38% Coalition (up two), 28% Labor (steady), 13% Greens (down one), 6% One Nation (steady), 1% UAP (steady), 11% independents (steady) and 2% others (down two)”.
“Just 33% gave Anthony Albanese a good rating, while 54% rated him poorly, for a net approval of -21, down seven points since June. Albanese’s net approval has slumped 19 points since April”.
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BTW many more Aussie polls at the link.
https://theconversation.com/labor-and-albaneses-slide-continues-in-resolve-poll-as-major-parties-tied-233638
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Interesting to speculate how this woke dimwittery ‘go vegan to save the planet’ fits into Strauss–Howe generational theory. According to this theory, Western society is currently experiencing the later stages of ‘Crisis’, the last stage of a roughly 80 year cycle of history. Aparently 2028 is the end of this cycle, or ‘fourth turning’ before a new 80 year cycle begins with a new 20 year or generational period called the ‘High’. So, must we endure another 4 years of silly ideas to save the planet?
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The planet doesn’t need saving. We do.
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Occam’s razor is a very sharp and powerful tool.
It often produces difficult and uncomfortable results.
Here you demonstrate that it is being wielded properly in your hands.
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Here’s Chiefio’s updated “Government Razor –
“Plot vs Accident:
At this point, my “Government Razor” (created some months / year or two back) that says
“What you get from the Government is to be considered as what was intended; absent hard evidence for incompetence.”
as opposed to “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity” that has ceased to be valid in Government in the era of Cloward-Piven and Rules For Radicals / Marxism et.al.) is now saying “This is what was desired”. Not quite a formal Plot but at a minimum action from spite to keep detail too small for the task.
“Remember remember this 5th Of November; the vote stealing, lying and plots”… ”
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2024/06/14/w-o-o-d-14-june-2024-eu-steals-russian-money-russia-advances-usa-sticks-eu-with-guarantor-role/#comment-171380
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Oh the political frustration of true believers and Ministers like Bowen. Buy EV’s so governments can pretend they are working well as citizen provided EV batteries can be bled for electricity to cover the generation deficiencies of wind and solar plants. Government pride cannot allow it to see the brutal obvious; those plants and all the paraphernalia that goes with them are rapidly depleting the national bankcards. There’s inadequate cash left to keep propping up ever-increasing left-extremist policies that keep the government, greens and teals elected. That’s even with the citizens privately paying the cost for the EV batteries that are really encouraged not to save the planet, but save the politicians by pinching the power in the batteries to help power the grid. What happens when renewables are so inadequate that EVs can’t be powered up either? That’s where the government will demand those with fossil fuel dependent motors in EV hydrids get their cars moving to charge up and then attach them to the grid!
The pride of the government politicians, any true believers and the greens must be upheld at all costs. There is absolute refusal to see the obvious failures of their renewables extravaganza, the precarious nature of their constructed ideas and the inability to change to more fossil fuels again – even if interim and requiring full government financing due to all the business problems that would have to be faced. Nuclear must be stopped because the first successful construction will completely demolish the entire government spiel about renewables and will expose the dreadful government wasted funds and failed propaganda used to destroy our national economy and prosperity.
We have to tolerate the intolerable and the continuing plundering of the national assets. We export gas and coal for the rest of the world to use but which we are forbidden to use.
I forecast our governments will be demanding all new homes be provided with home connections to which home generators will be required to connect to both power the homes and to put power into the grid. We had a diesel powered generator – 1KVA if I recall correctly – on a farm 50years ago that powered the house and farm requirements. They replaced the old 32V wind and small motorised generators that powered 32V battery systems that existed for decades prior. If Bowen isn’t ousted soon this is all that would be left with his refusal to budge.
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I beat Bowen’s article in The Australian by 2hrs. EVs to power the grid. Get paid for the power but not for the generator? The EV should be treated as a business cost for taxation purposes if Bowen sees it as an integral part of HIS power generation idea.
Can’t wait until the corollary of that – generate grid power from the home by use of fossil fuel powered camping generators!
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How can an EV with a DC battery or a roof top solar array put power into an AC Grid? The system would need in errors galore. Who pays and who installs that?
Let’s go Nuclear with Coal and Gas. This is the Lucky Country.
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I have always been amused that the Bowen solution plan using only weather reliant solution in circumstances where you believe weather is becoming more extreme suggested seriously diminish intelligence .
The reality is that the most likely time for the grid to fail is when demand is greatest which is at the weather extremes , very hot or very cold, the conditions that alarmists believe will become more prevalent.
Talk about planning to fail.
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