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    Honk R Smith

    I like history.
    Living it is less relaxing than reading it.

    I grew up in the Space Age.
    Guess we’ve moved to the Computer Age.

    We seem to have arrived in a new place.
    I’ve begun to call this The DOGisCAT Age.

    I offer this tidbit that I have linked before, but it’s a doozy.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/8Wr1UdWxtNI5/
    ‘Pfizer tells Senator Paulin Hanson nobody was forced to take vaccines in Australia’

    We have installed a leadership of sociopaths.
    You say, “hi nice dog you have there”.
    They say, “no it’s a cat.”

    “Uh … what?”
    “And BTW, men are women. And you’re an Anti-Science Speciesist”.

    Something has occurred.
    Really hoping the The DOGisCAT Age is a temporary anomaly.

    I can’t seem to conjure historical precedent quite like this.

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      David Maddison

      I can’t seem to conjure historical precedent quite like this.

      Something similar to our present day situation is alluded to in the Hebrew Bible.

      Isaiah Chapter 5

      20 Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter.

      21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and in their own estimation, of profound understanding.

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        Dave of Gold Coast, Qld.

        Those verses are not alluding to our day it a prophesy of about it.

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        Honk R Smith

        Understood David.
        Yep, feels Biblical.
        Was hesitant to think it out loud due to weakness and lack of knowledge of Biblical history.
        I was born Methodist.
        My experience with Methodism is no one bothers to explain what a Methodist is.
        I do know there always a ‘covered dish supper’.
        Beyond that, I got nuthin’.

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          coochin kid

          Nothing is received, unless accepted. When something is offered you have to make the effort of putting your hands out to receive the token. Because you did not put in the effort to receive the token, don’t say that there was something wrong with it .

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        Paul Cottingham

        Age of the Antichrist. Woe to the Antichrist of Canterbury who says of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who presents darkness as light and light as darkness, who presents bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter. The Failure of the Antichrist of Canterbury and the Other Instruments of Communion: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2023/28-april/news/world/the-gafcon-kigali-communiqu%C3%A9-in-full

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          Annie

          A very good article. Thankyou for the link. I’ve been wary of the CT for years but this is very worthwhile.

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          MP

          It is Sunday so my turn.
          And the people will walk willingly to their own demise.
          There will be wars and rumors of wars. (just winding up)

          Well both of those can be ticked off the list.

          Those that study the bible, were the first to be decieved. You know your propaganda is working when you can do this, or some people will just believe anything.

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          Lawrie

          Very much to the point and the truth. The desire by some church leaders to rewrite or re-interpret the laws of God to find favour with minority groups is a sign of a lack of faith and of moral weakness. It takes courage in this modern world to speak the truth and to keep the faith. Unfortunately there are too many too willing to run from the fight. The result is a loss of respect for the leadership by the faithful. It is salutory to observe that even though I cannot abide some or even most aspects of Islam I do respect the fervour by which adherents obey the laws of their religion. Strength comes from unity and our weak leaders are encouraging disunity both in religion and the secular.

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      Earl

      ‘Pfizer tells Senator Paulin Hanson nobody was forced to take vaccines in Australia’

      And let us not forget the retail workers who were sacked for disobedience for not taking the jab. These workers actually got a double whammy because when covid first took hold and industries such as the airlines laid off their staff many of those flooded into retail because of the government incentives for employers to take them. Your lowest paid (retail/service) workers therefore not only had their earning power reduced but also walked into work next to a person who already had $750 in their back pocket. Then those retail workers who declined the shot (anti this inoculation NOT anti vax) where dismissed. One national food change even ended their tv ads with “Covid Safe” which, as has been proven, was totally misleading because having the shot did not stop transmission.

      FYI there is still at least one court case awaiting a judge’s decision re disciplining, as in dismissing, staff for not taking the shot.

      Never forget, never forgive.

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        David Maddison

        An mandates remain to this day in various industries.

        Also, there is the lady in Melbourne who is is being refused a heart transplant to this very day because she refuses to be vaccinated (following a a permanent legal exemption from the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI)) and has to go overseas at her own expense (via fundraising) to get a transplant in a country with no such mandates.

        See https://twitter.com/senatorbabet/status/1648641222121234432

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        Honk R Smith

        Can the Elite pull this off?
        Can they really build this opposite counter reality world and make it work?
        Can they actually make this mess, particularly COVID and Net Zero, a pretend amongst themselves that everything is fine?

        Wind Factories (Do they even have a functional life of a decade?)
        Solar … keep dreaming, The Great Battery is almost reality
        Lockdowns
        Mandates (For vax that doesn’t vaxinate.)
        Bidenomics (This is the actual official Biden campaign label … no really.)

        That’s not p..s hitting your face, it’s rain.

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          MP

          Can they really build this opposite counter reality world and make it work?

          Depends on your definition of work, if Chaos is your goal.

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          Ronin

          “Can the Elite pull this off?
          Can they really build this opposite counter reality world and make it work? ”

          It’s gonna be hard because the wheels are falling off.

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        STJOHNOFGRAFTON

        Those Pfizer spokesmen are moral cowards with their smug retreat into the semantics of ‘forced’. As an historical case in point, Field Marshal Erwin Rommel on October 14, 1944, wasn’t ‘forced’ to commit suicide, he was offered the ‘choice’ based on the fact that the NAZI military authorities would make his life, the lives of his wife, son and other family members untennable through public shaming and imposed economic sanctions.

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          Ted1.

          Spokesmen will be very wary of saying anything that might be used against them. Truth won’t get a look in.

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      John Connor II

      It’s the Barbie age:

      https://imgbox.com/vzMGzLyG

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      John Connor II

      The Swedish army waving rainbow flags, singing Highway to hell.

      https://twitter.com/runews/status/1690264334088228865/

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    Climate Change Weekly #479: Hot Summer Due to Many Factors—Carbon Dioxide Emissions Are Not One of Them

    Let’s state the obvious and get it out of the way. It’s hot out there. Yeah, it’s summer and summer is typically hot, but it has as a matter of fact been “hotter than [usual in] July” (hat tip to Stevie Wonder) across much of the globe.

    Hundreds, if not thousands, of daily temperature records in cities and towns around the world have been set during the present heatwaves, which, in some locations, have persisted for an extended period. The heatwaves are real. I say heatwaves because it is not a single global event but a series of regional ones.

    Why now? For many progressive, bloviating politicians and alarmed reporters in mainstream media the answer is simple: climate change. In the immortal and insightful words of H. L. Mencken, “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.”

    Climate change is a complex, long-term phenomenon, driven by a combination of numerous factors at different locations during different time periods.

    https://heartlanddailynews.com/2023/08/climate-change-weekly-479-hot-summer-due-to-many-factors-carbon-dioxide-emissions-are-not-one-of-them/

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    Reader

    Watch as wind turbine snaps, collapses in Germany after possible lightning strike
    https://www.foxweather.com/extreme-weather/wind-turbine-collapses-video-germany

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    A simple way to look at the nonsensical energy transition.

    Think megawatt hours of gasoline
    By David Wojick
    https://www.cfact.org/2023/08/06/think-megawatt-hours-of-gasoline/

    The beginning: “The energy content of gasoline and other fuels is usually measured in Btu, or kilojoules if you are metric. But it can also be done in kilowatt or megawatt hours. Fuel energy and electric energy are both energy, after all. Given the rush to electrify all fuel use, this way of measuring helps make clear the fantasy of that policy. The amount of electricity required to replace ordinary fuel uses is enormous.”

    Lots of specifics in the article. Please share it.

    Do your own regional calcs. The simple data is usually readily available.

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      Paul Siebert

      Came here and opened up “Sunday” to make my own unsolicited two bits comment.
      You got me going again on the idle thought that has rattled around the space between my ears the last few years.
      Imagine the energy contained in the fuel transported by trucks with one, two, or more trailers. Now, send that down a wire.
      I shake my head still.

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      Murray Shaw

      Yes David, in a previous life I was running 300hp diesel engines on irrigation bores, and enquired of visiting friend who was an electrical engineer as to the possibility of switching to submersible electric pumps driven by diesel generators, and what would be the power requirement from a generator to deliver the said 300hp. On his calculation I would have needed a 600hp diesel engine driving a generator to deliver the power requirement for a 300hp submersible bore pump.

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      Raving

      Home charging at night will be fun

      https://youtu.be/skzmZeIkbIY

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      David+Wojick
      August 13, 2023 at 4:31 am ·
      https://www.cfact.org/2023/08/06/think-megawatt-hours-of-gasoline….

      David, you posted this same link last week and i pointed out the major flaw in their logic.
      I am surprised you did not understand the errors in it , so i will repeat the explanation..
      ..From your link…

      According to EIA, Virginia’s estimated 2021 gasoline consumption is around 440 trillion Btu. The conversion is 3,412,000 btu = 1 MWh. So that is about 130 million MWh in gasoline energy. Also, in 2021 Virginia’s electric power generation is 93.5 million MWh.

      So the gasoline energy is 1.4 times the total power generation. That’s a lot, right? If it takes this much energy to power our cars and light trucks, then we need to build generation capacity that is almost one and a half times our present generation to make the transition. We also need to build the costly transmission, distribution, and charging capacity to deliver all that juice to the EVs……..

      Mind you, a real analysis would get pretty technical pretty fast. For example, car engines are only around 40% efficient. So one might argue that only 40% of that 130 million MWh, or 52 million, is needed to run the electric version. That is still well over half of the present generation.

      But the electric power and electric car system is also far from 100% efficient. There are line losses, storage losses, motor losses, etc. So if 52 million MWh has to be used, then a lot more has to be generated. Plus EVs are a lot heavier, so take more energy.

      So,..
      Virginian transport traveled 85,432 million miles in 2022
      https://www.policygenius.com/auto-insurance/average-miles-driven-by-state/
      A typical EV (Tesla Y ), uses 0.41kWh per mile (0.26 kW/km)
      So if all Virginias were converted to EVs , that would require 35.4 million MWh.
      Significantly less than their quoted figure of ….. “ we need to build generation capacity that is almost one and a half times our present generation to make the transition. ”….
      ..And that 35.4 mMWh includes all losses, inefficiencies, extra weight (also wrong) , of the EV.
      . So yes , it is a lot more generation , but it is only about a quarter of the estimate from that article.
      The reality is that 100% transport conversion is NOT going to happen in any realistic time span, and before even a 50% transition could be achieved ,( 25+years ?), a LOT of changes will be made to the electricity supply systems.

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        Sorry Chad, I am not always able to track comments to my comments. I do say that the reality will be far more complex but gasoline usage seems a good starting point, since sales are reported to EIA.

        I do not know what that average milage estimate means, but if it is per resident then there is also a huge amount of long haul nonresident mileage thanks to I-95 and 81. I would love to see (or do) a more detailed analysis.

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          David, ..it is not complicated..
          The mileage link shows to total miles driven annually by all vehicles in virginia
          ..85,432 million miles in 2022…
          So knowing the energy consumption per mile of a typical EV, its easy to the total electricity required to drive that same number of miles in EVs.

          ..incidentally, you can check the result by doing a similar calculation using the average mpg (25) for USA and derive the annual barrels of gasoline and hence that BTU figure !

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            Robert Swan

            Chad,

            ..it is not complicated..

            There are few problems so simple that they can’t be oversimplified. Here you are at least assuming that the typical EV mile measures the same amount of work done as the average Virginia driven mile. Doesn’t sound very likely to me.

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              you are at least assuming that the typical EV mile measures the same amount of work done as the average Virginia driven mile.

              .. sorry Robert, but i really do not understand what you are saying here ?
              Are you suggesting that it may be a different “kW/mile figure for Virginia roads than any other state ?……more, ?.. or less ?
              But remember those figures are established by federal test protocols, and are fairly well proven.

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                Robert Swan

                You more or less have it, but focussed the wrong adjective. It’s not so much what’s special about Virginia, it’s the “typical EV mile” that is different. If every vehicle (Virginia or elsewhere) were replaced with its “equivalent” BEV, it is very unlikely that the kW used per mile would be in the same ballpark. For one thing, I’m pretty sure the typical EV mile is skewed towards urban driving. For another, there is no “equivalent” EV. At the very least, the different torque and power curves are bound to affect how people drive.

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        Kalm Keith

        Are you missing the point.
        Did you read Chad’s comment.

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        Kalm Keith

        “I am surprised you did not understand the errors in it ”

        Why.

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    “Save the Whales, Again
    Watch the trailer for Public’s upcoming documentary revealing the wind energy industry’s darkest secret”

    https://public.substack.com/p/save-the-whales-again?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#media-33f4a0c1-5ed4-4268-90cc-dcafacf05657

    Should be a great documentary.

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    David Maddison

    Video:

    Avi Yemeni interviews federal Senator Babet (UAP, VIC) about his bill to remove indemnity from covid vaccine manufacturers.

    https://www.rebelnews.com/senator_tables_bill_to_remove_vaccine_indemnity_from_manufacturers

    Under 4 mins.

    And thank you Avi for removing yiur “man bun”.

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    Rafe+Champion

    Not new but true!

    Naomi Seibt
    More than a match for Greta Thunberg.

    We are not science deniers, we are the climate realists.
    We don’t want to shut down free speech.

    https://youtu.be/Tq4fJdjt_vM 2.40 minutes

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    Rafe+Champion

    At the tipping point of our power supply in SE Australia.

    https://newcatallaxy.blog/2023/07/11/approaching-the-tipping-point/

    Not much wind in WA this morning!

    https://www.nem-watch.info/widgets/reneweconomy/

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      Hasbeen

      Here in my part of South East Queensland we have only had 2 days in the last 6 weeks when my neighbors windmill was pumping water up to his house for extended periods as usual. Just a very few hours or minutes of pumping on just a few days.

      It usually supplied about 1300 gallons of irrigation & stock water daily. He had to ask me if he could put a fire pump on my dam to give him stock water.

      Windmills are great pumps when the wind blows, but it is dangerous to be completely reliant on them.

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      yarpos

      An icon in a very dangerous sport that I used to follow, had for his avatar on forums, an animated GIF of a chicken pecking at a stick of dynamite with the fuse burning. This reminds me of the current repetitive stupidity on our electrical grid (remove dispatchable , increase wind and solar)

      Sure , keep it up and its all good; until it isn’t. I fear the grid is heading for the same fate as the aforementioned icon.

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    David Maddison

    Don’t forget to put your submissions in opposing the latest proposed Australian Government censorship legislation.

    https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/have-your-say/new-acma-powers-combat-misinformation-and-disinformation

    “New ACMA powers to combat misinformation and disinformation”.

    They don’t have to be long if you don’t have time. A short submission will do if that’s all you can manage.

    Due by August 20, 2023.

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      Another Delcon

      Got my submission in . This is what I put in the comments box :
      “Giving bureaucrats or government agencies the power to decide what is true or not or to decide what is allowed to be expressed even if thought to be wrong is totally repugnant for anyone who values a civilized society . This is the most dangerous threat to democracy Australia has ever been exposed to as it represents a significant threat to free speech .
      Allowing open debate by the general community , aided by inputs from people who are experts in their field , is the most effective way to ensure that the best ideas become policy and to make it less likely that stupid or damaging ideas get shoved down the public’s throats ( or injected into their arms !!!!!!!! ) .
      We ( most of us now ) know how much harm was done by the suppression of speech for the most experienced medical practitioners and researchers . Instead medically illiterate ( or corrupt ) bureaucrats ( aided by corrupt MSM ) had total control and did massive harm !
      This proposal could have come straight out of the book ” 1984 ” !

      We need many more submissions to save free speech !

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      Ronin

      “Misinformation and disinformation”,

      Anything other than what the gubbermint tells you it is.

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      Adellad

      I just sent mine – and thanks for the prod. I said it’s chilling to see such a blatant attempt by our political and bureaucratic classes to set up the Ministry of Truth. I suggested it could not be ignorance behind this, therefore the intent must be seen as a deliberate move to control speech and hence, thought. I “outed” myself – ie: did not do an anonymous post. Did you?

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    David Maddison

    THE STORY OF THE DONKEY AND THE TIGER (FABLE)

    The donkey told the tiger: The grass is blue.

    The tiger replied: No, the grass is green​.

    The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, and to do so they approached the lion.
    Before reaching the clearing in the forest where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ′′Your Highness, isn’t it true that the grass is blue?”​

    The lion replied: “True, the grass is blue”​.

    The donkey rushed forward and continued: ′′The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts me and annoys me. Please punish him”​.

    The king then declared: ′′The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence”​.

    The donkey jumped with joy and went on his way, content and repeating: ′′The grass is blue”​..

    The tiger accepted his punishment, but he asked the lion: ′′Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, the grass is green?”​

    The lion replied: ′′In fact, the grass is green”​.

    The tiger asked: ′′So why do you punish me?”​

    The lion replied: That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that to come and bother me with that question.

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      Bruce

      In an interesting “cultural” twist, in Vietnamese, the base word for blue and green is the SAME, “xanh”

      If “green” green in meant, a “qualifier” follows.” Xanh la cay”, i.e. “green/blue like a tree”.

      Etymological origins of this? No idea.

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        Dave in the States

        In Japanese, blue and green have traditionally been the same also. The Japanese word for blue, Aoi, also applied to green and still sometimes does. The modern usage of Modori for green specifically came into use relatively recent.

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        mawm

        And in Zulu.

        as in -hlaza.

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        RobB

        Maybe its because early humans actually couldnt tell the difference between green and blue:

        https://www.sciencealert.com/humans-didn-t-even-see-the-colour-blue-until-modern-times-evidence-suggests

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        Roy

        In Welsh although there are separate words for blue “glas” and green “gwyrdd” the colour of grass is sometimes described as “glas” i.e. blue. The Welsh word for a lawn is “glaswellt” from the word for blue and gwellt / wellt which is the word for straw. Another peculiarity is that the colours grey and brown were identified by the same word, “llwyd” but nowadays most Welsh speakers, except for some of the elderly ones, tend to use “llwyd” just for “grey” and use the English word “brown” when they mean brown.

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    Paul Siebert

    Reading last night, Nine News’s latest report on the Maui fires where the lack of alerts to residents was noted.
    I found this darkly ironic, having tripped, again, two days ago, over Tulsi Gabbard’s account of the terrors Hawaiians went through, back in January 2018, over the faked missile alert.

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      yarpos

      Sounds like they are reliving the 2009 bushfires in VIC that decimated a series of small towns. Poor forestry management, high temps, high wind, fire, poor to non existent communication with the public, many deaths.

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        Klem

        Poor forestry management is so true. That and Leftists lighting fires so they can blame climate change.

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    There is a key error in the policy logic for those who want to save the planet from catastrophic climate change that destroys any justification for cutting greenhouse gas emissions.
    Based on the Science, global emissions need to reduce rapidly this decade on the way to global net zero in a few decades time. Instead, emissions will very likely rise this decade. This was evident in 2015 prior to COP21 Paris. The key error is to assume that the whole world will follow the lead of a few countries. Thus a policy maker at country or more local level is acting as if they were controlling the world.
    To anyone who analysed the data for themselves, or tracked the annual UNEP Emission Gap Reports, it has been evident that this was not the case.
    Policy to reduce CO2 emissions is thus disconnected from the alleged problem. Those who push such policies are morally equivalent to a medical doctor pursing a treatment that is both useless and harmful to the patient. This applies regardless of the original diagnosis.
    I believe I have fully substantiated these claims. The listed sources are mostly from the UN.
    https://manicbeancounter.com/2023/07/27/key-error-in-climate-policy-illustrated/

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      KP

      It was never to save the planet, it was to take control over The Stupid, and it is succeeding very well. No-one in the West ever mentions the SE Asians view of all this, they’re just gooks, even lower than those Europeans. So ‘The World’ is under a billion people when you are immersed in the West, and what the other 8billion do will completely over-ride what The Stupid do.

      Even if we did manage to crush our energy usage to what they say is necessary to be carbon neutral, total carbon fuel usage will rise, as you say. Demand is growing faster in Asia than it is falling in the West. Instead of competing, we will destroy ourselves as the rest are rising, but maybe this is how empires have always fallen.

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        Although the controlling of CO2 emissions was never about saving the planet, the vast majority who promote the policies genuinely believe they are saving the planet, right down to buying bamboo toothbrushes and carefully washing every can, jar or piece of plastic packaging before recycling. The erroneous idea is due to socialist thinking – that reality is moulded by those in power. The era of global boiling proclamation by Antonio Guterres is just another manifestation of this idea. The planet will be saved by more belief, especially when uncontaminated by voiced counter views.

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          KP

          “The planet will be saved by more belief, especially when uncontaminated by voiced counter views.”

          Now it REALLY sounds like a religion! Who would’ve thought people could believe so thoroughly in something so stupid.. Oh wait! Those who have committed suicide en masse in a couple of religions around the world, those who gave it all to Rajneesh so he could have a Rolls Royce fleet, there’s actually plenty of examples…

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            Philip

            This time it’s “the science” KP. I know lots of intelligent people who believe.

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              KP

              I wonder if this civilisation relies too much on science. We are the first scientific civilisation since the stone age, and have used science to replace villages with cities, village elders with Govts, and religion with Welfare States. Along the way we replaced a slower life where you knew everyone locally with a high-speed life of social media and experts.

              To bring down such a civilisation you attack it with false science, something no-one would believe could happen, but it would be the key to taking power over the population.

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            Rather than identifying what climate science is like, I believe the emphasis should be on what the policy does not do. The cutting emissions in some countries, or states or cities is not about cutting global emissions as they will keep on rising, despite policy changes in a few countries like Australia, UK & USA. It is up to those pushing policy to demonstrate that achievement of objectives is highly likely.

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      RickWill

      Kevin,
      What you have written could be interpreted as supporting the UN efforts to gain global control. You make the case that without global control, there will be no reduction in CO2 – I agree with that. In fact, the only way some nations like Australia may achieve NetZero is to rely entirely on China for the supply of stuff that underpins the policy.

      The UN would agree with your view that there is currently no hope for NetZero without co-ordinated effort. They are working to correct that situation by taking total control of the world. Our betters in the UN will enjoy all the benefits of modern technology but the plebs will only be permitted to live and work in cold, dark abodes serving their betters.

      There appears to be a coordinated effort to pull China into line at the present time but that then exposes other economies to rampant inflation because they can no longer manufacture economically. NetZero is a possibility for some economies. California could achieve it but the population will continue to morph into lower class of hispanic descent while the wealthier middle class move to less woke States. Australia could achieve it by trading mineral wealth for wind and solar energy extractors; at least for a one time pass until China finds it harder to mine coal at the required rate

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    Richard C (NZ)

    A headline I never thought I would ever read:

    How to protest climate change nicely, with Brenda the Civil Disobedience Penguin
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/11/how-to-protest-climate-change-nicely-with-brenda-the-civil-disobedience-penguin

    It’s a cartoon – in case you’re tempted to look…

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      PeterPetrum

      Very droll! But true, nevertheless.

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      Earl

      I’ve never bothered with first dog on the moon but am aware of it from periodically checking in on the guardian’s latest piece of insanity. With all this voice/reparations/pay the rent stuff and the ramping up of UFO/flying saucer/(now) UAPs I had the following “what if” moment which I’m sure would be right up the first dog’s alley but probably, in the current climate, wouldn’t be touched.

      Just think how back in 1969 “we” (humanity) but really USA landed on the moon and planted a flag which could be construed as an act of pseudo ownership. Fifty four years later and the only “development” that has taken place is that Russia and India are currently locked in a race to the moon’s south pole which is thought to be mineral rich.

      What if they find an inter-galactic 3rd party UAP fleet already there, having arrived in the last 5 years, busily setting up their own mining development. Should “we” (humanity) but really USA, demand they leave or pass a law that makes them pay compensation followed by an annual rent, after all the moon does belong to the earth – we have a flag or two to prove it?

      Best stick with navel gazing I ‘spose. Speaking of which…. Get this India…

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    David Maddison

    Why don’t the 99% of us who aren’t offended by everything, quit catering to the 1% who are?

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      Richard C (NZ)

      Neil Oliver, Russel Brand, and now John Lydon’s seen the light:

      ‘The World Has Moved Too Far To The Left’, Warns Sex Pistols’ Johnny Rotten
      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/world-has-moved-too-far-left-warns-sex-pistols-johnny-rotten

      “They invite black people to dinner because they are black and because it is trendy, but it’s mostly condescending,” Lydon said.

      “They advocate massive immigration for which there should no longer be any rules because such rules are equated with racism. They quarter the refugees in working-class neighborhoods where the people are already very poor, which in turn leads to more unemployment and more crime.

      “Politics is destroying working-class values ​​based on empathy, love, and respect, not stealing from each other and helping each other when you need it. These are all values ​​that are now being pushed aside in favor of fashionable elitism,” he added.

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        Tel

        Politics is destroying working-class values ​​based on empathy, love, and respect, not stealing from each other and helping each other when you need it.

        In order to get the working class to demand Communism … they must be encouraged to be resentful, envious, very willing to steal from others, and expecting central government to solve all their problems. This is known as “class consciousness”.

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        yarpos

        Funny how you never see “far left” groups called out in the media. Apparently you cant never be left enough.

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      MP

      I used to listen to Neil Oliver, he is getting so depressing he should be put on suicide watch.

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        Adellad

        I believe he speaks the truth; he is valiant, articulate and has a platform allowing his fears to be promulgated relatively widely. Those fears are my fears too and, I hasten to suggest, should be yours as well.

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          Hanrahan

          The question I would ask is: Does he say anything original or is it just what we already know rehashed?

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            yarpos

            Depends who “we” is and if “we” is his intended audience. I am hoping he attracts the people in the middle who are starting to doubt that all is well.

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            Adellad

            It’s a bit “how many angels fit onto the head of a pin” to debate where any thought might have begun. Oliver has an audience and he summarises things well in my mind. It makes his contribution well worth the effort.

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          MP

          He may be right, but so may I.
          I don’t fear what’s coming, I fear my country man’s response, and they have continuously shown that they will give up their rights over invisible enemies.
          They will,
          Sit in the pubs
          Stand in the parks.
          Wear a mask. (even when alone in their car)
          Stay 5 min’s from home.
          Inject themselves with an experimental concoction, with no idea what’s in it, without question.

          They begged to be abused, and will do it again, thing is they will throw away your right’s with theirs, and will become the abusers, willingly.

          Fear triggers two responses, fight or flight, what will you do?

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        Steve

        Red pill, blue pill your choice.
        Neil Oliver currently has a unique voice in the public domain, albeit limited. There is no one else in the UK able to speak publicly about the issues, all other dissenting voices are on non mainstream blogs.
        More power to neil, I’m surprised he hasn’t been shut down yet, maybe his message is getting through.

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          MP

          I thought the point of the Matrix was no matter what colour the pill you were still part of the Matrix, swimming against the current while being washed down stream for your red pill moment.
          He is an opinion, the ABC is an alternative opinion. Not bagging him but he presents it as doom and gloom, bottom lip resting on the desk, never a solution.
          Dr John Campbell presents facts, well worded and delivered.

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    RickWill

    The linked article sets out the basis of my complaint against the CSIRO ACCESS climate modelling team.
    https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNhjKYOdzsOF98gHxY?e=a9CRgd

    I have had acknowledgement of my complaint but no new correspondence from the ACCESS team.

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      KP

      Excellent reading! Forwarded some of it onto my ‘scientist’ daughter, but she probably won’t even read it. They apparently are not interested in alternative opinions at the Dept Primary Industries.

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      Adellad

      Prediction, the response shall be a mix of:
      1. perfumed note
      2. obfuscation
      3. rejection of your methodology without addressing it properly
      4. a restatement of CSIRO’s faith in their religion of MMGW

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        RickWill

        I have a prior response to a question I raised with CSIRO so I am prepared for their response to the complaint. They claimed to be middle of the road with other climate models implying that they do not care about measured data. They put up a GISS study from a climate model that also projects the open ocean surface temperature to exceed 30C. But that model only has 20 atmospheric layers. It would need an order of magnitude higher vertical resolution to resolve convective instability in any meaningful way.

        If I do not get an engaged response from the complaint, I will take it to the Federal ombudsmen. From there to the corruption commissioner. Each step will provide ever more evidence of their lack of scientific basis for their modelling.

        Anyone with basic knowledge of physics could understand why the oceans regulate to a 30C limit once the process is explained. Most of it is well known observations but it has not been thoroughly quantified because it does not fit well with “global warming”. Ramanathan got close to defining the process before he got tied up with the IPCC.

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          Adellad

          You are doing a great community service – even though probably the great majority in our community would disagree with you because The Project or the bloke down the road told them MMGW is real or something. You have the requisite knowledge of physics to query the likes of CSIRO in a manner that cannot be easily swatted away, so it seems to me. I dips me lid.

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      Richard C (NZ)

      Rick >CSIRO ACCESS

      That’s the only model that gets 1980 – 2020 about right (27 C) and the data profiles are similar which makes me wonder if it was the only one initialized with observation parameters.

      What was the CMIP6 specification for initialization data?

      The overall ACCESS linear trend is misleading in that respect i.e 1980 – 2020 is the 40 yr baseline (for both Obs and ACCESS) from which any change in the future (or not) can be determined. ACCESS takes off after that so time will tell.

      All the others are junk already, even with decades of observations available.

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        Richard C (NZ)

        >”1980 – 2020 is the 40 yr baseline (for both Obs and ACCESS)”

        That’s just my perspective for this case but it is similar for sea level for example.

        Sea level projections are from an averaged baseline but the goalposts keep moving e.g. 20 yrs in AR4 WGI Chapter 10: Global Climate Projections:

        Sea level is projected to rise between the present (1980-1999) and the end of this century (2090-2099) under the SRES B1 scenario by 0.18 to 0.38 m, B2 by 0.20 to 0.43 m, A1B by 0.21 to 0.48 m, A1T by 0.20 to 0.45 m, A2 by 0.23 to 0.51 m, and A1FI by 0.26 to 0.59 m.

        But the baseline for AR6 is the mean of 1995 to 2014. This is cheating and it makes later projections look much better than the earlier.

        Point being that the IPCC baseline is a mean of a nominal number of decades – 2 for sea level. Only then can a linear trend or projection be applied from, say, the mid point of the baseline.

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        RickWill

        The overall ACCESS linear trend is misleading in that respect i.e 1980 – 2020 is the 40 yr baseline (for both Obs and ACCESS)

        Observations for CMIP6 would be to 2015. So there is some 8 years in forecast and almost 35 years in overlap with measured data. The ACCESS SSP585 trend for 1980 to 2023 is upward at 1.7C/century. So in the wrong direction to measured. The results are provably nonsense though because the open ocean surface temperature is limited to a maximum sustainable of 30C with the present atmospheric mass. Doubling CO2 is unmeasurable in terms of atmospheric mass and impact on the regulating temperature of 30C in the present era. Any model sustaining open ocean temperature above 30C over an annual cycle is unphysical claptrap.

        The CSIRO Mk3.0 model with SRES A2 has a warming trend of 4.19C/century from 2000 to 2023 compared to the measured trend over the satellite period of 0.63C/century. THe Mk3.0 model actuallylly levels out in the latter years to the current average. So by 2100 is will be in the ballpark.

        Because the surface temperature is being correlated with CO2 and the CO2 is increasing everywhere, the temperature trend everywhere is always upward. Even in handcarts back to 1980s because CO2 levels have accelerated since then. There are not enough unable parameters to get the nuances of observations. That is why I focus ion the Nino34 region as being a key element of weather and climate forecasting for Australia. This is the issue I want to engage with the ACCESS Team. They clearly have no idea why the regulation occurs so they are in for a lesson in atmospheric physics. The notion that models can provide any useful output using parameterised clouds demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of how convective instability actually works. Suki Manabe has no clue on this topic and he got the Nobel prize in physics for his modelling that connected CO2 to warming.

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          Richard C (NZ)

          Rick >”The ACCESS SSP585 trend for 1980 to 2023 is upward at 1.7C/century. So in the wrong direction to measured.”

          Any linear trend in the baseline is irrelevant – see #16.3.3 downthread. The baseline is a mean of the observation data.

          Best example is sea level projection which is taken from the mean of a nominal 20 year span of observation data which for CMIP6 was 1995 to 2014. Here’s an application of that:

          Update to 2020 of the annual mean sea level series and trends around New Zealand

          [Page 4]

          All series of AMSL have been normalised to an average mean sea level over the two-decade baseline period 1995-2014 (inclusive), which is the latest reference period used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change IPCC). Given the different local survey datums used for the 6 gauges, this normalisation enables a more consistent basis for comparison of relative SLR around Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is also the same zero baseline period used in the MfE interim guidance on the use of new IPCC AR6 sea level projections (MfE, 2022). The duration of the baseline is also long enough (20-years) to cover the range of tidal combinations (18.6 years) and some of the shorter-cycle climate variability (e.g., the El Niño-Southern Oscillation or ENSO)

          https://environment.govt.nz/assets/publications/update-to-mean-sea-level-series-and-trends.pdf

          Also, the baseline is short enough to eliminate consideration of trend.

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            RickWill

            The baseline is a mean of the observation data.

            No it is the best model fit to the input data. There is a limit to the parametirastion that can get a thorough polynomial fit to the data. The basis of the modelling is that natural variation is negligible and the warming trend is linked to the rising CO2. It is impossible to get the model to track measured data across the globe without a near infinite number of tuning parameters because the models are based on a false premise that CO2 is causing the current observed global warming.

            In fact the warming is not global. As I point out, the place and time of most warming is the Greenland Plateau in January. No model reproduces that for the last 4 decades. The Southern Ocean has a steady cooling trend. Something no model is capable of reproducing because it is impossible to get a cooling trend through parameterisation when the influence of CO2 in the model is so significant and CO2 will just keep going up..

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              Richard C (NZ)

              Me >”The baseline is a mean of the observation data”

              Rick >”No it is the best model fit to the input data”

              Two different concepts here.

              1) First is a convention. Climate is defined as:

              “the long-term weather pattern in a region, typically averaged over 30 years. More rigorously, it is the mean and variability of meteorological variables over a time spanning from months to millions of years”

              So climate CHANGE is a change from one regime (a mean over time) to another regime (different mean over time).

              The IPCC’s projection baseline is 20 years.

              All of the IPCC’s sea level scenarios are in these terms. AR4 was from a baseline mean of 1980-1999, mid point 1990. So their 50 year projections of “20 – 40 cms by 2040” was from the baseline mid point of 1990. Problem was that at the time of publication (2007) and after when we were regaled with that pronouncement 17 years of the 50 had already elapsed and it was evident that the scenarios were running well above observations.

              With subsequent AR5 and AR6 the IPCC obscures the failure of previous scenarios compared to observations.

              See following for 2)

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              Richard C (NZ)

              Second concept

              2) The second is climate model initialization (initial conditions): constrained vs unconstrained.

              I still don’t know what the CMIP6 specification was but here is CMIP5:

              Technical documentation: Coupled Model Intercomparison Project Phase 5 (CMIP5)
              https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/climate-change/canadian-centre-climate-services/display-download/technical-documentation-coupled-model-intercomparison-phase5.html#toc2

              Data and processing

              “…only one ensemble member from each model is selected, even if multiple realizations exist with different initial conditions…”

              And,

              Reference period for anomaly results (projected change)

              Projected changes are expressed as anomalies with respect to the reference period of 1986-2005 for both anomaly time series and spatial maps (i.e., differences between the future period and the reference period). Therefore, twenty-year averages of projected change (in the climate variable) for the four future time periods (2021-2040; 2041-2060; 2061-2080; 2081-2100) are with respect to the reference period of 1986-2005.

              Different model groups initialize their models differently i.e. different initial conditions. And not all are necessarily constrained by historical reference period data. Obviously “different initial conditions” above implies input data unconstrained by observations.

              The reference period baseline however is the same for all.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                >”I still don’t know what the CMIP6 specification was”

                Here it is:

                CMIP6 Participation Guidance for Modelers
                https://pcmdi.llnl.gov/CMIP6/Guide/modelers.html

                2. Experiment design

                Each model participating in CMIP6 must contribute results from the four DECK experiments (piControl, AMIP, abrupt4xCO2, and 1pctCO2) and the CMIP6 historical simulation. See Eyring et al. (2016) where the experiment protocol is documented. These experiments are considered to define the ongoing (slowly evolving) “CMIP Activity” and are directly overseen by the CMIP Panel

                Info on DECK and historical simulations following.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                Info here on DECK and historical simulations:

                Overview of the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project Phase 6 (CMIP6) experimental design and organization
                https://gmd.copernicus.org/articles/9/1937/2016/gmd-9-1937-2016.pdf

                3 The DECK and CMIP historical simulations

                The DECK comprises four baseline experiments: (a) a his-torical Atmospheric Model Intercomparison Project (amip) simulation, (b) a pre-industrial control simulation (piCon-trol or esm-piControl), (c) a simulation forced by an abrupt quadrupling of CO2 (abrupt-4×CO2) and (d) a simulation forced by a 1 % yr−1 CO2 increase (1pctCO2).

                And,

                CMIP also includes a historical simulation (historical or esm-hist) that spans the period of extensive instrumental temperature measurements from 1850 to the present.

                These prerequisites qualify the models for participation (or not). Obviously if they can’t model the past then they are out of contention for projecting the future.

                Except the ability to model the past doesn’t guarantee their future results either.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                See #16.3.3.1.1 downthread re Copernicus’ use of the term “baseline”:

                The DECK comprises four baseline experiments

                Just loose terminology. A line is by definition straight.

                Historical data is fluctuating – not straight. Historical data only becomes a line once a mean of it is calculated which is typical of that time period (hence “climate”).

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        Richard C (NZ)

        >”What was the CMIP6 specification for initialization data?”

        They make it as difficult as possible to find but from what I can gather the “DECK” is the initialization set of observation data for whatever comparisons (could be wrong).

        CMIP5 was projected from 2005 but CMIP6 seems to be from 2015, observations up to end of 2014 (see slide 7):

        Overview of the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project Phase 6 (CMIP6) Experimental Design and Organization
        https://www.wcrp-climate.org/images/modelling/WGCM/CMIP/CMIP6FinalDesign_GMD_180329.pdf

        So a Nino 3.4 surface temperature baseline in the same terms as the 20 yr sea level baseline would also be the mean of 1995 to 2014.

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          Richard C (NZ)

          In short, if the ACCESS model is initialized with observation data to 2014 then the baseline mean of 1995 to 2014 will be identical in both ACCESS initialization parameters and the observation data for the same 1995 to 2014 time span because it is the same data.

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            RickWill

            if the ACCESS model is initialized with observation data to 2014 then the baseline mean of 1995 to 2014 will be identical in both ACCESS initialization parameters and the observation

            No incorrect. You are confusing baseline input data with model output. To get identical match across the globe between input and output for the baseline would require a near infinite number of tuning parameters. CO2 has such a dominating influence in the models that everywhere has to have a warming trend since the 1980s. It is impossible to get another parameter powerful enough to provide a cooling trend anywhere.

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              Richard C (NZ)

              Rick >”You are confusing baseline input data with model output”

              No I certainly am not.

              See #16.3.2.1.1 and #16.3.2.1.2 upthread.

              #16.3.2.1.1 – Baseline is the MEAN of the nominal climate period whether 30 years, 20 years, or whatever. Baseline has nothing to do with model input data. Baseline is simply a convention.

              #16.3.2.1.2 – Climate model input data (parameters) set the initial condition for models. Models may be constrained by observation datasets for initial conditions or they may not.

              Just looking at your graph of ACCESS makes me think it was constrained by observations given the graph profile similarity with observations and also the absolute match (about 27 C).

              Too late now for your submission but I suggest plotting the observation data on the same graph as the ACCESS data. Alternatively just subtract one from the other to find differences.

              That would reveal whether ACCESS was initialized and constrained with the observation dataset.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                >”Baseline has nothing to do with model input data.”

                Input data is initial condition parameterization whether by historical dataset or not.

                I will concede that upthread at #16.3.2.1.2 Copernicus uses the term in respect to historical simulations:

                3 The DECK and CMIP historical simulations

                The DECK comprises four baseline experiments:….

                This is just very loose terminology. A line is by definition straight.

                Historical data is fluctuating – not straight. As such it cannot be accurately described as a base “line”.

                The historical data only becomes a “line” once a mean of it is calculated. The mean “climate” is then considered typical of that time period.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                >”Models may be constrained by observation datasets for initial conditions or they may not”

                Becomes obvious when all the model results are graphed in absolute terms, for example in the Hawkins & Sutton paper re CMIP5:

                Connecting Climate Model Projections of Global Temperature Change with the Real World
                Ed Hawkins and Rowan Sutton (2016)
                https://journals.ametsoc.org/configurable/content/journals$002fbams$002f97$002f6$002fbams-d-14-00154.1.xml?t:ac=journals%24002fbams%24002f97%24002f6%24002fbams-d-14-00154.1.xml

                Fig. 1.
                (top) Global-mean 2-m air temperature from CMIP5 historical simulations (gray, 1861–2005) and various reanalysis estimates (colors; from Saha et al. 2010; Dee et al. 2011; Rienecker et al. 2011; Kobayashi et al. 2015). (bottom) Comparing the same data as temperature anomalies, using two reference periods (1979–88 and 1996–2005).
                https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/97/6/full-bams-d-14-00154.1-f1.jpg

                Obviously only a very few models conform with historical observations within fractions of a degree, the rest are up to plus or minus 1.5 C variance (total range 3 C) from observations.

                And yet we are led to believe in the 1.5 C “limit” when the models are already at +/- 1.5 from observations ?

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                RickWill

                Climate model input data (parameters) set the initial condition for models.

                No – the parameters are not input data. They are tunable features of the models. Most models are now able to self tiune. They adjust the parameters to best fit the starting data; like fitting a polynomial. Then make future projections and hindcast based on those parameters once tuned.

                The models cannot create any negative trends beyond 1980 because they all correlate temperature everywhere to CO2. That is all they have. Because CO2 is rising everywhere the models predict that temperature will rise everywhere. So a negative trend is an impossible output for a climate model aimed at demonising CO2. A negative measured trend in any temperature record post 1980 to present invalidates the output of any climate model.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                Rick

                >”the parameters are not input data”

                Yes they are. Here’s an example saying exactly that:

                Climate benchmarks and input parameters representing locations in 68 countries for a stochastic weather generator, CLIGEN
                Fullhart et al (2020)
                https://www.researchgate.net/publication/347454846_Climate_benchmarks_and_input_parameters_representing_locations_in_68_countries_for_a_stochastic_weather_generator_CLIGEN

                Abstract. This dataset contains input parameters for 12,703 locations around the world to parameterize a stochastic weather generator called CLIGEN. The parameters are essentially monthly statistics relating to daily precipitation, temperature and solar radiation.

                >”Most models are now able to self tiune”

                Yes I’ve covered that upthread using the nomenclature “constrained” vs “unconstrained” wrt observations.

                However, in the new CMIP structure the model groups MUST first qualify their models for participation and to do so they MUST submit historical simulationns. Cited this previously but here it is again:

                CMIP6 Participation Guidance for Modelers
                https://pcmdi.llnl.gov/CMIP6/Guide/modelers.html

                2. Experiment design

                Each model participating in CMIP6 must contribute results from the four DECK experiments (piControl, AMIP, abrupt4xCO2, and 1pctCO2) and the CMIP6 historical simulation.

                DECK – Diagnostic, Evaluation and Characterization of Klima

                DECK is the core of the new CMIP structure surrounded by historical simulations in diagrammatic form here:

                Overview of the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project Phase 6 (CMIP6) experimental design and organization
                https://gmd.copernicus.org/articles/9/1937/2016/gmd-9-1937-2016.pdf

                Figure 1. CMIP evolution. CMIP will evolve but the DECK will provide continuity across phases.
                https://cdn.climatechangenews.com/files/2022/05/20112712/CMIP-evolution.png

                If a model fails this pre-qualification it doesn’t participate in CMIP.

                >”They adjust the parameters to best fit the starting data; like fitting a polynomial. Then make future projections and hindcast based on those parameters once tuned.”

                Depends on the parameters whether fixed or not. For example the input dataset for CO2 is prescribed and fixed for each scenario. If a model is constrained by observations during spin-up the observation data is fixed.

                It is this latter condition that makes me think ACCESS was constrained by the observation dataset during spin-up because the obs and model graph seem to match pre-projection both in profile and absolute terms.

                The other models are nowhere near this initial condition.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                >”If a model is constrained by observations during spin-up the observation data is fixed.”

                >”It is this latter condition that makes me think ACCESS was constrained by the observation dataset during spin-up because the obs and model graph seem to match pre-projection both in profile and absolute terms”

                Configuration and spin-up of ACCESS-CM2, the new generation Australian Community Climate and Earth System Simulator Coupled Model
                Daohua Bi et al (2020)
                https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343905736_Configuration_and_spin-up_of_ACCESS-CM2_the_new_generation_Australian_Community_Climate_and_Earth_System_Simulator_Coupled_Model

                3 Experimental design

                The experimental framework for an entry-level CMIP6 submission involves initialisation, a multi-century spin-up run under theCMIP6 PI forcing conditions, followed by the four official CMIP6 DECK experiments (Eyring et al. 2016) comprising PI control (hereafter piControl)

                3.3 Spin-up procedure

                Here we document the ACCESS-CM2 spin-up procedure, including some of the debugging and tuning efforts over the course of model development. The initial spin-up was conducted with ACCESS-CM2j for several centuries

                “Eyring et al. (2016)” was cited upthread:

                ‘Overview of the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project Phase 6 (CMIP6) Experimental Design and Organization’

                4.6 El Nino Southern Oscillation

                Here we provide a basic evaluation of the modelled ENSO in ACCESS-CM2 and ACCESS1.3 by comparing the ENSO variability (tropical Pacific SST standard deviation), variance and frequency (power spectra) against that from the 1990–2014 HadISST observations (Rayner et al.2003). Detailed analysis and evaluation of the ACCESS-CM2 ENSO simulation with more complicated metrics will be presented in future papers.

                This answers my question – they do not constrain the model with observations wrt ENSO but they do compare model ENSO variability against 1990–2014 HadISST observations. See 5 Concluding summary below for what they found.

                5 Concluding summary

                ENSO is a too regular quasi-biennial event.

                We note that this assessment of the ACCESS-CM2 PI spin-up simulations in this study is predominantly focussed on the ocean climate. This is because the ocean is the slowest component to equilibrate across the spin-up run and hence sets the basis for a stable control simulation.

                So that’s ENSO in ACCESS-CM2.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                Question:

                What does one mean by Model Spin Up Time?

                Can the spin up time be varied and on what factors does it depend? (Atmospheric Model)

                Popular answers (1):

                The tools used to forecast weather, project likely climate scenarios, or to reanalyze data are all based on or derived from a General Circulation Model (GCM). These models require initial (IC) and boundary conditions (BC) before they can start to run forward and generate estimates of future situations.

                Because of intrinsic difficulties (including inevitable uncertainties in the observational data, inconsistencies between those, and probably limitations in the model formulation too), the initial results are unreliable as the model attempts to stabilize. This is the ‘spin up’ period. Once the fields have adjusted and results become more stable, the model can be stimulated (forced) in a particular way and the results can be trusted, within limits that can themselves be documented.

                Hence the spin up time may vary from model to model, and especially with the quality of the IC and BC, as well as with the purpose of the run. Given the cost of high performance computing, there is a trade-off between a long spin up period (to allow the model to ‘forget’ the IC and BC) and the need to quickly generate useful outcomes. The communities mentioned above (weather, climate, reanalysis) have generated ample materials on this matter.

                https://www.researchgate.net/post/What-does-one-mean-by-Model-Spin-Up-Time

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    David Maddison

    https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/museums-removal-of-harry-potter-exhibit-is-a-window-into-the-lefts-mission-to-shun-anyone-who-dares-to-have-a-different-opinion-to-them/news-story/a26c0e26a5ecc03e3d039333345664f5

    Museum’s removal of Harry Potter exhibit is a window into the left’s mission to shun anyone who dares to have a different opinion to them

    It’s impossible to participate in the arts community these days if you don’t align with the modern left in every single way, writes Caleb Bond.

    The Museum of Pop Culture in Seattle has now scrubbed her from its hall of fame and Harry Potter exhibition.

    According to the museum’s exhibitions project manager Chris Moore, Rowling is a “cold, heartless, joy-sucking entity in the world of Harry Potter” and “a bit too vocal with her super hateful and divisive views”.

    Hateful views like suggesting – shock horror – that biological sex is real and matters.

    Because in this post-truth world of woke, there’s no need to engage in discussion or debate – especially when the people who think differently to you are evil and hateful.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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      KP

      That’s OK, millions and millions of young people think she is wonderful and Harry Potter a true hero, whereas no-one will remember whats-is-name the museum wonk.

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      Hanrahan

      You also can’t engage any nature group if you DARE question the orthodoxy.

      Birds in backyards was a great community site but it looks to have died.

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        yarpos

        Sad that dogma can diminish/destroy a community with shared interests. All’s well in the echo chamber I guess.

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      Steve

      Same happening with Roald Dahl’s work.
      Free and independent thought is not allowed. The young must be taught the correct, approved way to think.
      “Give me the child, and i will show you the man”. God help us.

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      Muzza

      The museum obviously needs the Bud Light treatment. Go woke, go broke…..

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Scientific Censorship Reaches New Heights

    An article in American Thinker by Guy K. Mitchell, Jr. who is the author of a book titled Global Warming: The Great Deception — The Triumph of Dollars and Politics Over Science and Why You Should Care.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/08/scientific_censorship_reaches_new_heights.html

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    John Connor II

    Update: Want to pwn a satellite? Turns out it’s surprisingly easy

    BLACK HAT A study into the feasibility of hacking low-Earth orbit satellites has revealed that it’s worryingly easy to do.

    In a presentation at the Black Hat security conference in Las Vegas, Johannes Willbold, a PhD student at Germany’s Ruhr University Bochum, explained he had been investigating the security of satellites. He studied three types of orbital machinery and found that many were utterly defenseless against remote takeover because they lack the most basic security systems.

    “People think that satellites are secure,” he said. “Those are expensive assets and they should have encryption and authentication. I assume that criminals think the same and they are too hard to target and you need to be some kind of cryptography genius. Maybe it wasn’t a good idea to give this talk.”

    Satellite operators have been lucky so far. The prevailing wisdom is that hacking this kit would be prohibitively expensive due to the high cost of ground stations that communicate with the orbital birds, and that such hardware benefited from security by obscurity – that getting hold of the details of the firmware would be too difficult. Neither is true, the research indicates.

    For example, both AWS and Microsoft’s Azure now offer Ground Station as a Service (GSaaS) to communicate with LEO satellites, so communication is simply a matter of plonking down a credit card. As for getting details on firmware, the commercial space industry has flourished in recent years and many of the components used on multiple platforms are easy to buy and study – Willbold estimated a hacker could build their own ground station for around $10,000 in parts.

    The results were depressing. Both the CubeSats failed at a most basic level, with no authentication protocols, and they were broadcasting signals without encryption. With some code Willbold would have been able to take over the satellites’ basic control functions and lock out the legitimate owner, which he demonstrated during the talk with a simulation.

    The Flying Laptop was a different case, however. It had basic security systems in place and tried to isolate core functions from interference. However, with some skill, code, and standard techniques, this satellite too proved vulnerable.

    https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/11/satellite_hacking_black_hat/

    Now, who was that guy posting about this risk on this blog before?
    How does he know these things? 😁

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      Broadie

      Starlink is Linux based

      Each of SpaceX’s monthly launches of 60 internet-beaming Starlink satellites carries 4,000 stripped-back Linux computers, SpaceX software engineers have revealed.

      My experience has been our work computers were completely open to someone with the knowledge to create a new identity using what are intended to be service hacks. Lucky those computers only exchanged your personal data with companies based in Singapore. Sure they had parent entities based in another country. Who doesn’t? Our election security has a similar lineage from my understanding.

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        yarpos

        Most computers are open to anyone with Sysadmin skills. Just a matter of if anyone will wake up to what has happened. Sometimes there are other system that will see these sorts of changes but its an expensive business that most cant justify.

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      Kim

      There are a number of satellites (various types) that repeat (rebroadcast) VHF signals. These do not have any tone (eg CTCSS) control access. They are regularly used by criminals in Central and South America. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satellite+repeater+pirates

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    John Connor II

    Twitter’s WEF-Linked CEO Unveils New Anti-Free Speech Agenda

    Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino has just unveiled a new anti-free speech agenda for Elon Musk’s social media platform, now known as X.

    Yaccarino, a World Economic Forum (WEF) member and former top NBC advertising executive, has announced a new “shadowbanning” operation at Twitter.

    She was appointed as the chief executive by Twitter’s owner Elon Musk to manage the day-to-day operations of the Big Tech company while he focuses on the technology side.

    During a new CNBC interview, Yaccarino reasserted her independence from Musk, placing him firmly in a tech-based role.

    However, Yaccarino has reignited concerns of censorship on Twitter by announcing that the company will crack down on speech deemed to be “lawful but awful.”

    According to Yaccarino, Americans will not be permitted to exercise their First Amendment rights to legally express themselves.

    She confirmed that speech will, in fact, be policed and content will be hidden by Twitter if it’s considered to be “awful,” even if it doesn’t break any laws.

    Her remarks raise fresh concerns surrounding freedom of speech and the direction online platforms should take in moderating content.

    Since he first suggested buying Twitter, Musk had insisted that protecting free speech was his top priority.

    https://slaynews.com/news/twitters-wef-linked-ceo-unveils-new-anti-free-speech-agenda/

    X marks the spot, Twitter’s grave.
    “You see, in this world there are 2 kinds of people my friend. Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig”
    – Clint Eastwood, The Good, the Bad & the Ugly.

    Classic ending:
    https://youtu.be/Y6x401CGAl8?si=ikUqD-dyIV-hECES

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    John Connor II

    China makes laser weapons ‘breakthrough’

    Beijing’s military scientists have claimed success in enabling high-energy lasers to operate “indefinitely” without overheating.

    Chinese military scientists have reported a research breakthrough that could make it possible for Beijing to develop high-energy laser weapons that can shoot for as long as their operators desire, without interruption and without any degradation in performance.

    Scientists at the National University of Defense Technology in Changsha, China, published the results of their research earlier this month in Acta Optica Sinica, a peer-reviewed Chinese journal. They claim to have developed a new cooling system that makes it possible to operate high-energy lasers “indefinitely,” without any effects from overheating.

    “This is a huge breakthrough in improving the performance of high-energy laser systems,” the team said in its research paper. “High-quality beams can be produced not only in the first second, but also maintained indefinitely.”

    https://swentr.site/news/581201-china-makes-weapons-breakthrough/

    Being China, we’ll all disbelieve it until independently proven, given how much they lie about their tech now.

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    John Connor II

    The 15 minute city car of the future

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/cba6527dfcfa451b98014c9fd52e0056/983097fa8275c257-e2/s640x960/f572cd241b516502118315ff2c686197b8df23c8.jpg

    Perfect for the skinny, nutrition-deprived citizen and their purchase of a 500g pack of bugs.

    Would DM swap his v8 for one? 😄

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    John Connor II

    Sunday cooking tip for lefties.

    Do you hate having to wait for water to boil so you can add food?
    Tip: If you boil some water and bottle it, you can then freeze it ready for use next time! Pre-boiled water. Genius!

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      Or actually just use a Thermos flask as millions of people already do when hiking .!

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      Broadie

      Great idea! I am just doing a few comments while I heat my frozen boiled water.

      In the process of heating water from 0 to 100 C, 100 calories of energy must be added. Part of that energy increases the kinetic energy of the molecules, and some adds to the potential energy. To assess the amount added to kinetic energy, the molecular speeds at the two temperatures may be evaluated with the Boltzmann speed distribution.

      Stuff it. I am just going to put the kettle on and poor whatever is left into a thermos for ‘Ron’. Well done to any bugs that survived that!

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    John Connor II

    Sunday survival tip

    Keep some precooked bacon in the freezer, and put it in your pocket before a natural disaster hits.
    That way the rescue dogs will find you first.

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    John Connor II

    A parent group in Kansas sought to ban the book Charlotte’s Web from their students’ school libraries. They argued that talking animals are “unnatural and blasphemous as humans are the highest level of God’s creation.”

    https://readingpartners.org/blog/five-more-childrens-books-you-didnt-know-were-banned/

    I guess they forgot about that book with the talking snake…

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    John Connor II

    The EV insanity keeps rolling on

    GM just revealed its new electric Escalade – a huge, wastrel of an SUV that will start “around” $130,000. It’s an obscenity on so many levels it is hard to count them all.

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/08/12/the-ev-as-it-ought-to-be/

    The future is stupid. Still.

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    John Connor II

    Sunday tech corner: Win 11 & Office upgrades CHEAP!

    This is a HUGE bargain, for those wanting to upgrade to Win 11 Pro and/or Office 2021 Pro.

    https://stacksocial.com/sales/the-all-in-one-microsoft-office-pro-plus-2021-for-windows-lifetime-license-windows-11-pro-bundle

    You can pay by Paypal, Link (Stripe offshoot) or signup with Stacksocial and pay by card.
    No idea how long the deal will be there so get in quick!
    I have no affiliation with them, but the deal came up on my radar, and it’s a doozy.

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    Russell

    No wind at King Island at the moment – the windmill using 10kW of diesel generated power to prevent flattening of the bearings.

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      ? How did you get that ?, from the live dashboard ?
      Every tine i open that page, it is displaying the same data..
      374 kW from wind
      1177 kW from diesel ?

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        RexAlan

        Well at 8.00pm from the live dashboard I get 29kw or 1% from wind and 2165kw from diesel which is 99%. A pretty poor showing if you ask me.

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          Odd ?, 8:15pm, logged on with a fresh page load….
          …still stuck at 374 kW of wind
          ..1177 KW from diesel
          Demand..1434 kW..
          All no change from yesterday ??
          How can that happen ?

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            Andrew McRae

            I found the dashboard is being loaded from another address and embedded using an IFRAME. I also use NoScript to block scripts as default. Here is what I did which resulted in the dashboard working.

            1. Make sure your browser allows scripts for `hydro.com.au` and `ajenti.com.au`.
            2. Load the actual dashboard directly from the URL the IFRAME tag is using, which is https://data.ajenti.com.au/KIREIP/index.html
            3. Now when you go back to the Hydro Tasmania page and reload it, the embedded dashboard works.

            No idea why it doesn’t work the first time when scripts are enabled.
            Of course now that you have the real address for the dashboard, why bother using the Hydro address at all.

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      Hanrahan

      Our avatars are twins.

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      Earl

      King Island wind died in the RRRRs between 2:05p-2:23p with diesel doing 99% and solar 1-2%. Currently (7:39p) diesel still 96-99% and wind 1-4%. Solar gone beddy-bye.

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        Hanrahan

        SA is 80% hydrocarbons.

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        Skepticynic

        It’s 6am here down south and dark as it gets. Not even a moon. Yet the King Island dashboard reports solar is currently generating 15kW, contributing 1% to their energy grid.

        Demand Response is listed as 0kW, what is that?

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          yarpos

          I think its a euphemism for disconnecting load/dumping customers. Hopefully only those that signed up for it.

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    John Connor II

    WHO: Climate change might require vaccinating populations against migrating mosquitoes

    Does it surprise anybody that the WHO is trying to tie mass vaccination to climate change?

    A World Health Organization (WHO) official suggested that mass vaccination might be required to combat mosquito-borne illnesses as the infected insects migrate to new countries due to climate change.

    Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, the WHO’s technical lead for COVID-19, made the comments at a recent press conference.

    “A lot of this is also about other uses of tools that exist,” she said, “in instances where we have interventions like medical interventions, therapeutics or vaccines depending on the pathogen.”

    “We need to be able to prepare for that.”

    https://thecountersignal.com/who-climate-change-might-require-mass-vaccination/

    https://www.worldmosquitoprogram.org/en/news-stories/stories/explainer-how-climate-change-amplifying-mosquito-borne-diseases

    How about we just jab the mozzies with the appropriate mRNA vaxx and let them bite everyone?
    Nice try WHO, nice try, but it’s total BS now isn’t it.

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      The biggest malaria outbreak was in the Russian arctic in the 1920s. I hear the whine of mosis, during a tundra summer, is deafening!

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        Broadie

        Thank God for DDT!

        Most things are busier and bigger in a Latitude where you have so much work to do with such a short window of opportunity.

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    Ireneusz Palmowski

    Large decrease in the number of sunspots. Circulation in the upper troposphere will again slow down.
    https://i.ibb.co/C2BTds5/SDO-HMIIF-1024.jpg

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    Hanrahan

    My son’s squeeze thinks she may have Lyme disease [which doesn’t exist in Oz /s].

    I said to him she should take some ivermect1n, that it might work. [Being a bit woke he believes the warnings.] I have no basis on which to make this recommendation beyond “What harm can it do”? It may well be parasitic though.

    Does anyone more knowledgable than I have a comment?

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      Ireneusz Palmowski

      The basis is a blood test for parasites, also urine and feces. If erythema has appeared after a tick bite, you need to do a test for Lyme disease antibodies after two weeks at the earliest. Lyme disease is completely curable. People mistakenly attribute many symptoms to Lyme disease. In case of unusual symptoms, thorough specialized examinations are needed.

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      Hanrahan
      August 13, 2023 at 7:28 pm ·….. Lyme disease [which doesn’t exist in Oz /s].

      Only officially….there are many sufferers, and doctors, who would dissagree !

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      Len

      A couple years ago a lady in WA told me that there was Lyme disease in WA.

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      KP

      Ross on here was in the same position as you Hanrahan, we had some correspondence about Biomagnetic Resonance treatment for it, something I have contacts in. His relative’s case was resolved by a visit to a clinic in Germany for treatment unavailable here. I’ve emailed him and asked him to look at your request.

      Cheers

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        Hanrahan

        Thanks, kind of you KP.

        Should have mentioned that she is from S Africa. Don’t think she has been here too many years.

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          Plain Jane

          There are lots of tick bourne diseases, in all parts of the world (except Australia for some reason (sarc)) so even if it is not Lyme, it might be some other. Any sensible GP, knowing that person has spent time on another continent, should consider disease from there.

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      Ross

      Sorry for the delay Hanrahan, I’m away on holidays. Lyme certainly exists in Australia either from native tick infection or from victims being bit by ticks overseas. Like medical authorities all over the world our medicos don’t officially recognize Lymes. Which is a bacterial infection transferred vis the tick bite. Unless you can find a rebel doctor or your sons “ squeeze” ends up in a hospital, testing for Lymes is unauthorized in Australia. But there are definitely labs that can probably do reliable testing in Australia. But that’s a whole other story. Ivermectin? Dunno is the short answer. I’ve seen some discussion of IVM for LD on social media etc but nothing definitive. My 2 bobs worth- taking IVM possibly denatures any spike protein from COVID jabs, which in turn have lowered people’s resistance to long term Lymes. Most people who have chronic Lymes live with it ok. Then they have a medical episode ( or have mRNA vaccines) which totally disrupt their immune system and the partly controlled Borrelia bacteria come roaring back. The only reputable treatment is antibiotics, but they are only partly successful. My DIL went to Germany for specialized antibiotic treatment which they have developed , but it costs! Hope that helps mate.

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        Graeme No.3

        We have several infection ticks in Australia. There is the Annastacia one in the tropics and a deadly on in Victoria – what’s the name?
        Dan something.

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    Hanrahan

    Looking at the debris washing out to sea in the China floods, my question is: Will they deploy fleets of ships to skim that massive part of the South China Sea that they claim as their own?

    On the positive side they may now be able to clear the many thousands of surplus, unwanted new cars. ‘Tis an ill wind that blows nobody good.

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      yarpos

      Given the state of the Chinese environment its hard to imagine the toxic soup being washed out to sea. Add a bit of Fukushima overflow and we may actually see Godzilla emerge yet.

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    Honk R Smith

    Hey, more fun from the Age of DOGisCAT.

    FDA claims in court, that doctors were NEVER EVER prevented from prescribing Ivermec … I mean, horse de-wormer to patients for CONVID.

    FDA lawyer tells judge that FDA statements against horse de-wormer were … “MERELY QUIPS” … and did not prevent doctors from prescribing it.

    https://mustreadalaska.com/feds-admit-in-court-doctors-have-the-right-to-prescribe-ivermectin-for-covid/

    So friends, we are now free to, in fact ordered by quip, to take ‘Public Health’ recommendations as “merely quips”.
    Haha … real comedians.
    They must be really fun at parties.
    You know, the ones they were throwing while the rest of us were locked down.

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    Dave in the States

    Just an observation about local weather yesterday and how it was reported. It was a typical summer day. Heated up to about 75 degrees F by late afternoon. Partly cloudy. Then a thunderstorm rumbled in. It rained hard for about 30 minutes and the temperature noticably dropped about 20 degrees F. On my PC it said it was 75 degrees and sunny while the rain was pooring down. (I don’t know what temperature was reported online before the storm.) Then after the rain stopped the online report caught up and said it was raining, but the temperature was 74 degrees. On my old fashioned thermometer, it read 57 degrees. About 30 minutes later it had went up to 59 degrees. The online report was “rain to stop” and it was back to 75 degrees. This despite the sun starting to get low in the western sky.

    The weather station which supplies data to the online record isn’t far away from my old fashioned thermometer. It’s on the roof of the nearby elementry school. It’s a mostly flat topped brick building with metal roof panels and undoubtly tar and gravel sealing up the flat portions.

    My humble back yard thermometer is always in the shade. Always.

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    David Maddison

    I just happened to see ABC Australia “news”.

    There was a story about a woke new five story “environmentally friendly” building in Van Diemen’s Land.

    It cost 30% more than a concrete or steel equivalent.

    The “reporter” said:

    “it absorbs the greenhouse gas carbon”.

    (I assume the clueless reporter meant the wood used rather than the building itself.)

    Hey what?

    Carbon has a sublimation temperature of 3642°C or ​6588°F.

    I think we would feel very hot in the presence of carbon gas.

    These ignoramuses at Their ABC are among those promoting climate policy.

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      Hanrahan

      Here in the tropics practically every new house is masonry block on a concrete slab and on a small block. They then build fairly high fences out the back, and all air conditioned of course. Must be hell early on a still night [the sea breeze has dropped] when everyone is trying to cool down all that cement living in each others heat wash from the air conditioners.

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    Hanrahan

    SA still struggling, burning diesel to keep the toasters going. Qld and Tas are the only exporters.

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      Adellad

      Yes, our energy policies are bonkers, but are you suggesting the rest of Australia is embarking on a sensible energy future under Bowen? Moomba gas goes to Sydney and elsewhere by the way.

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    Robber

    Aren’t windmills wonderful?
    For the last 48 hours, across the entire AEMO grid, wind has delivered just 500-1200 MW from a nameplate capacity of 10,200 MW.

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    Destroyer D69

    A review of a soon to be published book. This should be on every reading list when it is available in AUS. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sometimes-only-satire-does-job

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      MP

      From within.

      As for “the mad idea that the Covid vaccines are not even vaccines:” “The scientists call them vaccines, the governments call them vaccines, it says ‘vaccine’ on the label.” The vaccine is definitely a vaccine because it self-identifies as one and it’s frankly vaccine-phobic to suggest otherwise. A supposed scientific study alleging that the vaccine is actually gene therapy is debunked with the killer argument that it’s from Sweden and the Swedes all love ABBA, “so case closed.”

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    MP

    I’m from the Gullabul tribe.,
    A look at the people behind the movement.

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    Reader

    Mostly peaceful climate activist who wanted to be a human rights lawyer jailed for life after stabbing her fiance to death

    https://notthebee.com/article/climate-activist-human-rights-lawyer-jailed-stabbing-fiance-death

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