A quarter of the US believe they know someone who died from the Covid vaccines

By Jo Nova

Seeding the ground for a revolution?

Despite the censorship and the gagging of doctors, somehow, against the odds, nearly half of the US population believes it’s at least “somewhat likely” that Covid vaccines have killed people.  Astonishingly over a quarter said they personally know someone who has died and whose death may have been linked to vaccination.

CEmetary, death, mortality.

The population is now starkly divided. When someone dies unexpectedly, half the nation is wondering if it was caused by the vaccines, but another third think those people are just spreading conspiracies.

It follows (surely) that some significant slab of the West has had a profound loss of trust in our health institutions and the government. It is also an indictment of most of the legacy media which hasn’t mentioned vaccine side effects at all. Half the population know they are not telling the truth. How is this sustainable?

‘Died Suddenly’? More Than 1-in-4 Think Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccines

Rasmussen Reports

Twenty-eight percent (28%) of adults say they personally know someone whose death they think may have been caused by side effects of COVID-19 vaccines, while 61% don’t and another 10% are not sure.

The documentary Died Suddenly has been criticized as promoting “debunked” anti-vaccine conspiracy theories but has been seen by some 15 million people.

Forty-eight percent (48%) of Americans believe there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, while 37% think people who worry about vaccine safety are spreading conspiracy theories. Another 15% are not sure.

How many lives have been touched by “unexplained deaths”?

Somewhere between one fifth and one half of the population may know of “an unexplained death”. Twice as many unvaccinated people say they do:

Similarly, while 45% of those who have not been vaccinated against COVID-19 think someone they know personally might have died from vaccine side effects, only 22% of vaccinated adults think so.

The unvaccinated may be overestimating the deaths just as the vaccinated may be underestimating them. Either way, if one in four people know someone who died unexpectedly, that’s still an awful lot of deaths.

About 7% of vaccinees say they had a major side effect

One month ago in a similar Rasmussen survey results came out suggesting a lot of the population can see the dark side of vaccines for the saddest of reasons:

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of adults say they’ve gotten a COVID-19 vaccination, and a majority (56%) of vaccinated adults report no side effects from the vaccine. Thirty-four percent (34%) say they had minor side effects and seven percent (7%) reported major side effects from the vaccine.

It’s not clear what “major” means. But if 7% of the 70% who are vaccinated had a major reaction, that’s 5% of the whole population. With a household size of three in the US, that means 15% of the population live with someone who had a bad reaction.

Concerns about vaccines is spread across both sides of politics

Coronavirus-vaccine. Photo

Photo by Hakan Nural on Unsplash

Concern about vaccines leans more to the right, but as many as 44% of Democrats now think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of vaccines. Remember when “anti-vaccers” were a fringe minority? Not any more..

Forty-six percent (46%) of adults who have gotten vaccinated against COVID-19 believe people who worry about vaccine safety are spreading conspiracy theories, but just 15% of the unvaccinated share that belief. Sixty-nine percent (69%) of those who haven’t gotten the COVID-19 vaccine think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, as do 40% of those who have gotten vaccinated against the virus.

More Democrats (85%) than Republicans (63%) or those not affiliated with either major party (64%) have been vaccinated against COVID-19. More Republicans (60%) than Democrats (44%) or the unaffiliated (43%) think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. However, there is less political difference in the number who suspect someone they know might have died from vaccine side effects – 33% of Democrats and 26% of both Republicans and the unaffiliated.

The poor doubt the experts while the rich call the poor conspiracy theorists

The trend towards doubt of “expert advice” is spreading faster in lower income groups.

Voters with annual incomes below $30,000 are most likely to think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, while those with incomes above $200,000 are most likely to believe people who worry about vaccine safety are spreading conspiracy theories.

In the US 71% of adults say they are vaccinated, and 26% say they are not, and to state the bleeding obvious — the people who didn’t get vaccinated are also the most concerned about the health risks of vaccination.  Those who got vaccinated are only half as likely to think vaccines are linked to deaths.  Nonetheless, that’s nearly 4 in 10 people who are vaccinated that think injections can kill. That’s a lot of people.

h/t Matthew L, and Bill in AZ.


The survey of 1,000 American Adults was conducted on December 28-30, 2022 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

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171 comments to A quarter of the US believe they know someone who died from the Covid vaccines

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Strangely, in Australia, which has a very high percentage of its population vaccinated, there is nothing similar see this

    Why is that?

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      Trevor

      Strangely, in Australia, which has a very high percentage of its populated vaccinated, there is a 17% increase in excess mortality.

      Why is that?

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      Trevor

      Also, something else to mull over for you is the FOI release showing how completely out of its league the TGA is when it comes to mRNA technologies.

      Watch and enjoy.

      I personally am appalled at the state of our health regulatory bodies. They need new leadership after this farce.

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        Ted1.

        New leadership with new rules.

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        Mentat

        The Force (grand narrative is with us).

        New leadership and new rules as opposed to the grand narrative are required and these need to relate to the Truth and to the doing of due diligence on things ‘grand narrative’.

        Interestingly, a momentary glitch in the AI learning program AI Chat GPT 3 Bot may provide an opening for well researched answers on all cause mortality.

        I am trying to write the relevant questions relating to the huge attack by the Force on our faith in Western Medicine, which seems designed to attack our faith on many fronts.

        Could use some help on the Specific Vaccine Questions to get the AI Chat GPT 3 Bot to respond from the known data as detailed below, rather than from the restricted? programmed learning capabilities which it apparently applied to my CAGW question as follows:

        I asked the ChatGPT – (AI Chat GPT 3 Bot) to:

        _________________________________________
        Write a comprehensive review of the literature designed to satisfy the due diligence needs of science academies, government agencies and pension funds in terms of the empirical evidence, as opposed to the output of models, supporting the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming hypothesis, focusing on recorded sea level rise, recorded near surface temperatures, and natural versus anthropogenic carbon dioxide production. Include citations.

        The immediate response as follows:

        _________________________________________
        There is a lack of empirical evidence to support the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming hypothesis. Recorded sea level rise is not consistent with the hypothesis, as is recorded near surface temperature change. There is evidence to suggest that natural carbon dioxide production is a greater contributor to global warming than anthropogenic carbon dioxide production.

        Please feel free to help me write a succinct question on the dramatic increase in all cause mortality and its association or otherwise with the MRNA Vaccines

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        Scissor

        Wow. Dr. Martenson did a great job with this presentation. I’m a PhD chemist that once worked for Agilent and his explanation was impeccable.

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      TedM

      Nothing similar to this? You must live in a different world to me PF.

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      David Maddison

      That’s simply not true, Peter.

      There are plenty of unexpected deaths here.

      And have you not seen the “excess deaths” statistics for most Western countries which run at at least 15%?

      I also know of a person, a GP (family physician), extremely fit, who died shortly after their second covid “vaccine”.

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        David
        You beat me to it. Peter is completely sold on the narrative and disregards the terrible stories of so many, stories our media and govt have fought to remain hidden.
        As i have posted before, my uncle was killed by the booster. My mother in law was hospitalised within hours of her first and only jab and has had to fight significant blood clot issues ever since. And a young fellow here at work was off for months due to severe pains that could not be treated. And there are more.

        In any normal country we would want to find out why so many are suddenly dying and why the numbers are so high. But we don’t live in a normal country anymore, with our politicians and “public servants” completely incapable of looking after the interests of Australians, desperate to push unproven, useless and dangerous treatments, and lying continually to try to cover up the disaster that is happening.

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        Graeme+P.

        A family friend of ours who is an E.R. nurse told me last year that he was treating more people with vacc damage than covid. That was until he was stood down for not submitting to medical experiments.

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      b.nice

      Peter.. you need to read something other than your far left propaganda rags and MSM..

      Otherwise you will remain, as usual, UNAWARE of reality !

      Go to 2:50min on Trevor’s video link.

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      b.nice

      Oh, and please, for your own safety, make sure you are totally up to date with all required mRNA jabs. 😉

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      wal1957

      That’s the way Peter.
      Put the blinkers on.
      Nothing to see here.
      Excess deaths have been reported in a lot of western countries – apparently for reasons which are unknown.
      This should be a major news story but alas – any reporting has been short-lived and superficial at best.
      The MSM appears to have a mantra of “Mustn’t go against the narrative”
      Go back to your basement!

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      John Michelmore

      Peter, Dr’s were threatened, pharmacists deported and specialists ignored. How can any data published in Australia carry any weight. The government and bureaucracies have been covering up and any real data is mostly not retrievable because it has been illuminated, or never existed because any detailed investigation into excess deaths has not been done.

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      Graeme+P.

      I know 9 previously healthy people, mostly young, who now have heart conditions post vax. Another suffered near deadly clots.

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        ozfred

        Perhaps one of the only advantages of the current prophylactic treatment for atrial fibrillation is the requirement to take daily blood thinner medications (even if the last episode was 3 years ago).
        Though it apparently works wonders at reducing blood clotting.

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      Well that is weird, Peter.
      I was wondering why only 50% of Aussies ever went for a 3rd vaccination, in spite of the big push by authorities.
      Everyone I ask says they know someone who had a bad reaction, or had ongoing health problems immediately afterwards, or they knew of cases of unexplained deaths soon after vaccination.

      There is a helluva lot of doubt out there now.

      (I had three vaccines, with a very bad reaction on the last one, and I’m not sure I am fully recovered or whether I have simply aged incredibly since then. It would take a very strong scientific argument to convince me to have another, or to recommend it to anyone I know.)

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      Excalibur

      PF. A few simple sentences would dustill every one of your posts down to the essence….

      Govt always good. The state and it’s paid functionaries can do no wrong: are ALL infallible genius material.

      Is there ever any variation from these lines?

      PLUS. Great link. Six months ago 50% of vaxees already suspected the gene-jabs were / are duds, but were unable / unwilling to complain (fear of being bashed, arrested, pepper-sprayed, charged with something?). Still…

      Govt always good. The state and it’s functionaries can do no wrong. We get it!

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      Skepticynic

      Who’s Roy?

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      “AusVaxSafety is a collaboration between immunisation providers, private enterprise, research institutions, state and territory governments and the Australian Government Department of Health, which has significantly improved Australia’s ability to monitor, detect and respond to vaccine safety events.”
      Get it now?

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    Fran

    Most people who have been vaccinated have to believe the vaccine saved them from a horrible death on a respirator. The alternative, that they cannot trust their healthcare providers is too frightening.

    n.b. Dr Been goes ballistic over a Nature Cardiology paper that says POTS is 5x more likely with the virus than the vaccine. He says he and others have contacted the authors but received no response. He actually says it looks like deliberate fraud rather than statistical incompetence.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH3ryZMnnIE&t=1234s

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      Gerry

      Fran, what is POTS ?

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        Simon Thompson

        Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome- an increase of 30 beats/minute in heart rate when going from lying to standing without a change in BP. Part of the “Dysautanomia syndromes”.Glad you didn’t ask what caused it! I suspect deconditioning during “Lockdown” contributed to cases.
        (This is not medical advice)

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          Hatrack

          A mate had to rush his wife to hospital yesterday because her heart rate had increased dramatically for no apparent reason. She has been told that she will be going home tomorrow and that the problem can be controlled with medicine, so no stents etc required. She is 70+, fit, healthy, active and is not overweight. She has had 4 covid shots. Hmmm.

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        John Hultquist

        Common folks, not medical, uses POTS for plain old telephone system.
        Some of us still use this.

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      Mantaray Yunupingu

      Fran. What leads you to assert that “most people” believe the BS associated with the Covid19 story?

      In Oz the population had to be threatened, bullied, cancelled, ordered pepper-sprayed, shot with rubber bullets, bashed by cops etc etc (over years) to get compliance, and to submit to the jabs. This looks like “belief” to you? Really?

      Nah, the entire scam narrative has holes a mile wide, and the average citizen can see straight through them. it’s the evil monsters running the scam who want us divided and insulting one another. DO NOT comply!

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        yarpos

        I think the fabled most people dod what was necessary to have a life (2 shots)

        The enthusiasm for more wanes rapidly after that

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      Jon Rattin

      I know an 18yo male who developed pericarditis then POTS after 2nd shot of AZ. Several trips to hospital, couldn’t sleep for weeks as lying down triggered tachycardia. Incidentally, for those interested in outcomes for vaccine injury compensation claims, the family submitted the large amount of paper work, waited just over 6 months for a reply (bearing in mind you can’t apply for other Centrelink payments while the claim is being assessed). The claim was denied. The assessor stated the vaccine injury symptoms were only known to be caused by mRNA shots, so if he’d suffered side effects from either Pfizer or Moderna, he could been compensated

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    Fuel Filter

    Here’s the link that includes an 11:44 interview by Steve Bannon delving deeper into these numbers.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/01/02/remarkable-survey-28-of-americans-personally-know-someone-who-died-from-covid-19-jab/

    Worth every minute….

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    Doctor T

    My experience is that most of those I treat for major and/or chronic “vaccine” side effects do not attribute their adverse reactions to the jabs as the unified approach from MSM, public health, and politicians has been overwhelming, and these victims are effective gaslit.
    When I calmly point out the facts behind their reactions, it’s almost like removing a blindfold. Simply validating their experience is a powerful tool.
    How evil that the forces of evil do everything in their power to prevent the truth from being disseminated.

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      Sambar

      Morning Doctor T. Have you noticed an increase in strokes in you patients after being vaccinated? Being a late septuagenarian I know a lot of “old blokes” and while strokes where always there in the years before Covid, with the very occasional victim, since my cohort of friends / acquaintances have been vaccinated I know 6 cases of stroke in the months following vax and boosters. Strangely none were fatal but three left people sight effected, the remaing three seem to have made good recoveries. Since the vax booster regime has declined no strokes reported in the last six months. Coincidence?

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        Doctor T

        My area of medicine only rarely deals with strokes, though anecdotally I have heard of quite a few-not sure if the numbers are higher than background levels.
        The obvious acute side effects include heart attacks and a huge number with nerve, joint, tendon and muscle inflammation.

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          The obvious acute side effects include heart attacks and a huge number with nerve, joint, tendon and muscle inflammation.

          I have had my Pacemaker since Christmas of 2018.

          Four times I have been back for an annual checkup, and four times they have shown no concern really. The technician drapes the Receiver over the implant and then downloads the full year’s worth of data from the device into his computer, and there are a couple of other checks, and then a battery check. You are supposed to get ten years out of the battery, depending upon the usage of the ‘device’, and after four years now, I have seven years of battery life left, so it is not ‘firing’ very often, so my sinus node is still working relatively okay, and the only problem is just that occasional right branch bundle blockage.

          I asked about it, and the technician told me that they are usually unconcerned if the device registers below 50/60% usage. (I think he said.)

          I asked what sort of use mine is operating at, and he told me that this last year it was operating at 28%. I asked what it was like prior to that, and he said that for the first three years it was operating at 16%.

          In between the third check and this most recent one, I have had the full round of the four vaccinations, almost impossible to avoid having them here in Queensland, as most places asked for proof, and I had the written proof of all four vaccinations carried around with me, and asked for that proof often in fact. Because of my age (70/71 now) I had two AstraZeneca, and two Pfizer boosters.
          (Be aware that this following is just, umm, anecdotal, nudge nudge, wink wink, /sarc) I mentioned that percentage change to my GP and he said ….. coincidental. I have developed Peripheral Neuropathy (nerve damage) also in the last year, showing up not long after AZ2, also umm, coincidental. I mentioned that the arthritis in my knee is playing up as well, umm, also coincidental. I also have muscle soreness at night now, also coincidental according to my GP. I do fitness walking for exercise, and the physio has now given me strengthening exercises as well, and in the last year, my breathing is shot to hell now, and it’s harder to exert myself. My GP mentioned I should walk slow and low, and not as far, concerned that I was exerting myself perhaps too much. The Physio said the opposite, to keep walking as fast as I can, as the whole point of exercise is to umm, exert yourself, so he was unconcerned that I was working hard at it.

          I’m just so glad that all of this was just coincidental, otherwise what could I be thinking of, eh!

          Oh well, at least I’m immune, according to the Premier and her Labor party sycophants.

          Hmm, I just don’t know where to insert the /sarc any more. (Is that, umm, another symptom that might be coincidental as well?)

          Tony.

          (Incidentally, that written proof of vaccination. There were actually a couple of places who grumbled about it. They wanted to see the App on my mobile phone, and when I told them that I have the most basic of phones incapable of having the app, and they were actually a little reluctant to allow me entry. When I asked why WRITTEN proof was not acceptable, they said that could be easily forged, even after I told them to phone up the Practice on the official letterhead, which no one ever did. Grumble grumble, sign in here please.) (Huh! Just what IS the World coming to?) (I also find it amazing now that people can allude to you as a l1@r, and just flat out get away with it, because of the circumstances.)

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            Old Goat

            Tony,
            Getting old sucks . Have been strong armed into getting vaccinated twice and are still above the grass . Try not to let the petty tyrants win . Positive mental attitude helps. You are a part of the resistance !

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            Doctor T

            Your story of arthritic joints being more painful, as well as peripheral neuropathy are things that I am seeing commonly.
            In my runners club quite a few seasoned runners have stopped running since the jabs were introduced due to the development of severe knee pain.
            I am not a cardiologist, and my knowledge of arrhythmias and pacemakers is limited, though again anecdotally I am hearing or more people developing these conditions.
            Incidentally, I find most GP’s answer to arthritic joint pain is to exercise less, whereas the best option would generally to push on.

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              My left knee is really bad. (front leg for an opening bowler for 22 years) and I have been wearing knee guards on that left knee since 1975. So that left knee has arthritic pain now for 47 years gradually getting worse, with the right knee nowhere near as bad, but now also arthritically degraded as well.

              My running days are long over now, and when I walk six days a week, I wear a heavy duty knee support now, one for my left knee, and now also, one on my right knee whenever I walk.

              As heavy duty as they look, they are comfortable to wear, and in no way hinder my walking, and in fact I hardly even notice them now after four years, with now two years for my right knee. I was dubious at first, but immediately following first time out, I was impressed.

              I wear the Shock Doctor brace pictured here at left, and keep both of them on for an hour after I get back home from my walk. You can see the outline of the steel bar, one down each side.

              Well worth the cost.

              It’s not just a gentle walk here. It’s referred to as ‘fitness walking’.

              Tony.

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              Baz

              I find most GP’s answer to arthritic joint pain is to exercise less, whereas the best option would generally to push on.

              Doctor. As a patient I’d agree with that. As a 69 yo I was even struggling with climbing stairs. My doctor suggested the GLAD program (good living with arthritis, Denmark) through a local Physio. The difference is amazing. Still have a small amount of pain but now my walks and exercise is enjoyable.

              But back to the subject, I know of, many of my friends new him well. A local man 52,
              Died suddenly, he was fit active and friendly to be around. The autopsy could not find a cause of death.
              And a male relative in his forty’s, fit and enjoyed sports had a close call with his heart but thankfully survived.

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        Dennis

        I now take a blood thinner prescription drug added to my medications for high BP since firstly my home BP monitor indicated irregular heartbeat and I reported that and increased BP to my GP who referred me for an overnight at home heart monitoring followed by an echocardiogram followed by a consultation with a heart specialist. I still have non valvular atrial fibrillation.

        However my doctors have not confirmed or denied that vaccination might have started AF.

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          Dennis

          A young friend who is a pharmacist told me that she has one customer of similar age and gender to me who had the same result following vaccinations.

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          Doctor T

          I have also seen many people develop hypertension since the jabs, including my mother and mother-in-law, for no clear reason.
          Many patients mention the same.
          It is likely many of the reactions go under the radar as they are not life threatening.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      Over the past couple of years I have had many conversations with strangers – shop assistants, taxi drivers, fellow travellers – where the subject of Covid and vaccination came up and I felt it was OK to mention that I am unvaccinated (which I otherwise rarely do). These conversations all followed the same path, starting with the other person expressing surprise at my lack of faith in the vaccines, through my lack of fear of Covid, then on to me ‘enlightening them’ with a few facts.

      In every case, the other person concluded by either saying they were now sceptical of the vaccines and would do their own research, or confessing that they already had doubts but were now adamant they would have no more ‘boosters’. One in particular was upset because they regretted having the boost juice but of course couldn’t get it taken out.

      Of course the fact that I felt confident in talking about the vaccines with a stranger was probably because they had expressed some doubt already, so none of these people were hardline vaccine enthusiasts. I have no doubt the outcomes would have been different had that been the case, so I’m not suggesting my experience proves much beyong there are people out there already regretting their decision to have the vaccines. It does however encourage me in my hope that more and more people are wising up to what’s going on, even if we’re not sure why.

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        Doctor T

        I think many people are open to discussion once they realise they won’t be branded as “antivaxxers”. Such has been the power of the messaging.

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          wal1957

          Spot on Doctor T.
          Being labelled an antivaxxer, racist, far right nut job or conspracy theorist should be worn as a badge of honour.
          Having legitimate questions does not make you any of those mentioned in the previous sentence. It is common practice nowadays that if you question the narrative you are immediately given a supposedly derogatory lable.
          Wear the lable with pride. It means you’re a thinker not a lemming!

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        Trevor

        I know many people who regret taking it, and none who do not regret taking it.

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    David Maddison

    Nothing to see here.

    Just another supremely fit athlete collapses with cardiac arrest on live TV.

    Damar Hamlin of the Buffalo Bills. Fortunately he had immediate attention, but what if he was alone at home?

    Suneel Dhand explains:

    https://youtu.be/ZbfqL-GMUlg

    He is currently in critical condition.

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      Gerry

      David, he probably wouldn’t have collided head first with a rampaging 240 pound footballer at home. Perhaps he was more vulnerable than a footballer would have been before COVID. It seems hard to know how much the compulsory vaccinations contributed to the heart attack.
      Perhaps some underlying health issue was there all the time ? Early days yet.

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        Steve of Cornubia

        And we my never ‘officially’ know the truth about these incidents because, like the efficacy of Ivermectin, the relevant authorities have no interest in finding out.

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        Peter C

        It seems hard to know how much the compulsory vaccinations contributed to the heart attack.
        Perhaps some underlying health issue was there all the time ? Early days yet.

        Not early days!
        The details are hard to get hold of but the big picture pattern is now clear. There has been a huge increase in collapse and sudden death among athletes On the Sports Field and an unknown number have died at home. Airline pilots show a similar increase.

        Steve Kirsch reports an incident of a fit jogger who collapsed during his run. He survived because he made it to hospital and emergency surgery retieved a long clot (presumably from his pulmonary arteries). This suggests a mechanism for these events. The vaccine induces unusual fibrinous thrombi which embolise to the lungs during peak exercise. Surprisingly (or maybe not surprising) no one wants to provide details of the case, including the family.

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          Gerry

          Early days is referring to the cause/s of the footballers heart attack….. we may never know as Steve said because of the authority’s fear of the possible results … leaves room of course for a presumption of vaccination ….

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            Peter C

            leaves room of course for a presumption of vaccination ….

            Yes,

            The hospital staff may have a good idea by now what caused Damar Hamlin’s heart attack but I don’t expect to hear from them. Hamlin himself may say something if he recovers.

            Professor Sukarit Bahkdi found evidence that the vaccine caused the death in 93% of a small series of 15 autopsies of deaths following vaccination.
            https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/bhakdiburkhardt-pathology-results

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              Yonason

              Yes, except that Dr Bahkdi wasn’t the one who found it. He was the one who brought attention to Prof. Burkhardt’s findings.

              Note the presence of the spike protein was detected in all who died, implying that either the protein and/or the mRNA is insanely stable.

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          another ian

          “Tom Woods with some excellent, brief commentary on athletes and heart attacks. This paragraph is enlightening. The entire article is short and worth reading.

          Dr. Peter McCullough pointed out in a recent paper that since the shots were deployed, 1598 athletes have suffered cardiac arrest, with 1101 of them dying. In order to find 1101 similar athlete deaths he has to examine a 38-year period.

          https://mailchi.mp/tomwoods/muzzled?e=d98635a4aa

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      David Maddison

      If you do a Goolag search for “damar hamlin vaccination” without quote marks you will see how the biased search results are dominated by claims that anyone who thinks Hamlin’s cardiac arrest is possibly due to the “vaccine” is “right wing”, a “a far right troll”, “a conspiracy theorist”, “an anti-vaxxer” etc.. I didnt see any suggestion that they may also be a Trump supporter, LoL.

      No one knows yet (and due to censorship and medical cover up may never know), so it’s interesting how the Leftoid media and their “experts” immediately pronounce that it can’t possibly be vaccine related. That’s not how science or medicine is meant to work.

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    Harrison

    Most republicans believe, without credible evidence, in the 2020 rigged election lie, does make it true ?. George Costanza was right.

    [Off topic. This and all the replies (sorry to those people) will be removed soon. – J]

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      Honk R Smith

      FBI and DHS hiding information from the public, in alliance with one political party, not credible enough for ‘ya?

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      Steve4192

      Just as most Democrats believed the 2016 rigged election lies.

      Or that the ‘Trump vaccines’ were poison and not to be trusted (but quickly became unquestionable once Biden was in office).

      Both sides are more than capable of succumbing to ‘conspiracy theories’. And as we have seen over the past six years, many ‘conspiracy theories’ become accepted facts given enough time (ie … never-ending boosters every few months), while many reported ‘facts’ wind up being conspiracy theories once they are thoroughly investigated (Russiagate).

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      Gerry

      Your standard of credible evidence isn’t the standard of credible evidence that over half the US voters accept. But that’s your prerogative.

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    A happy little debunker

    Voters with annual incomes below $30,000 are most likely to think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, while those with incomes above $200,000 are most likely to believe people who worry about vaccine safety are spreading conspiracy theories.

    Considering in the US the poorest workers are rarely offered health care via their employment, whilst the higher earners almost always are.
    The poorest are invested in using an abundance of caution, because they have to…

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      ozfred

      Some of us in the under 30K category are retirees from the other group….
      And find “transparency” and “consistency” are scarce commodities in the health fields.

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    Simon

    Things Americans Believe
    Only 60% of Americans believe in evolution.
    Only 46% of Americans are confident that vaccines don’t cause autism.
    41% of Americans believe humans and dinosaurs coexisted.
    26% of Americans believe they won their independence from a country OTHER than Great Britain.
    More than 25% of Americans believe the Sun revolves around the Earth.
    27% of Americans believe that winning the lottery is a good financial plan.
    45% of Americans believe in ghosts.
    37% of Americans believe the FDA is intentionally withholding natural cures from the public because of pressure from drug companies.
    https://www.earthday.org/things-americans-believe/

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      Harves

      Simon, no surprise you left this one out?
      “7. 19% of Americans believe that humans will be able to control the weather within a few decades”
      You are trying to use this ‘earthhour survey’ to imply that the average American is stupid. But hilariously, you and your cult believe that humans can already control the weather by driving EVs instead of ICE vehicles.

      Brilliant!

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      David Maddison

      Never miss an opportunity to bash Americans heh, Simon?

      A lot of those figures would not be disimilar in other countries.

      Scientific and other ignorance is a consequence of the education systems which Leftoids have been working hard at dumbing-down since the 1960’s when they started implementing Rudi Dutschke’s plan of “the long march through the institutions”.

      37% of Americans believe the FDA is intentionally withholding natural cures from the public because of pressure from drug companies.

      The above one is more or less true, if you remove the “natural” qualifier. You would know this if you paid attention on these pages.

      As for you, I hope you are preparing for your sixth covid “vaccine” booster.

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        Harrison

        No, Americans are way down there with Eastern Europe, a product of poor education standards and the influence of religious mythology.

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        Simon

        By comparison, 80% of Australians believe in evolution.

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          David Maddison

          What percentage of Australians believe covid “vaccines are “safe and effective”?

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          Harves

          But how many believe humans can control the weather? We’ll, there’s you and …?

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          yarpos

          So what? is there a point?

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          Graeme No.3

          Which evolution?
          Darwinian? Too many adverse facts against it (although Natural Selection may have some evidence in favour), yet there are a number of animals that have survived for hundreds of millions of years apparently unchanged. Then there are cases of rapid change with a new species within a human lifetime.
          And in cases such as the End Permian Extinction (the worst mass extinction known) there was rapid (in geological time) development of weird animals Seen a Tanystropheus or a Rhyncosaur lately? Or a pachypleurosaur? Yet Lamphreys, Hag fishes even Coelacanths lasted to the present day.

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      David Maddison

      A lot of that lunatic Left web site Simon cites is devoted to the anti-science belief that man can unintentionally, and subsequently, intentionally change earth’s climate by people dramatically lowering their standard of living including lowering agricultural production, at least for non-Elites.

      That is a far more dangerous belief than any of the misconceptions Simon cites (and I don’t know how true the figures are, given they come from a Leftoid source).

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      David Maddison

      Simon, we haven’t seen you over the holiday period.

      Are you back at your government job and thus have plenty of spare time to post?

      Isn’t free speech great? You can post here but most people here are banned on “your” Leftoid sites.

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      b.nice

      And you, Simon, would be in most of those groups…. because you believe what ever the MSM tells you.

      Heck.. you STILL believe CO2 can cause atmospheric warming. That is more ignorant than any of the things you cite.

      —–

      “37% of Americans believe the FDA is intentionally withholding natural cures from the public because of pressure from drug companies.”

      When will the remaining 63% wake up to reality that IVM and HQN were deliberately and mendaciously denied to the public.

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      bobby b

      You forgot:

      93% of the people who quote that ridiculous “poll” are confirmed progressives who cannot make an actual argument and so resort to ad hominem namecalling.

      Every single one of those numbers was the result of massaging loaded questions. I know of almost no one who holds the deplorable beliefs you claim they hold, and I mostly hang around with the people you would hate.

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      Honk R Smith

      Yeah, dumb Americans …
      what is it, 6000 buried on Iwo Jima?
      Promise, we are not dumb enough to depend on someone else to come a save us.

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        GreatAuntJanet

        Apologies for Simon and his bigoted ilk, Mr Smith. People who have met real Americans do not hold such prejudiced, ill-informed views of your countrymen.

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      wal1957

      Simon…How many believe a man can give birth or become pregnant?

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      Leo G

      Things Americans Believe

      Only 60% of Americans believe in evolution.
      They believe natural selection favours progressivists.
      Only 46% of Americans are confident that vaccines don’t cause autism.
      Though the US CDC has produced studies which it believes show no link between certain vaccines and ASD, the root cause of ASD is not known
      41% of Americans believe humans and dinosaurs coexisted.
      They might regard some modern archosaurs as avian dinosaurs
      26% of Americans believe they won their independence from a country OTHER than Great Britain.
      They may be Americans from states that won their independence as a result of the progressive collapse of the Spanish empire in what is now the USA.
      More than 25% of Americans believe the Sun revolves around the Earth.
      Mathematically, rotating or revolving just involves progressive radial orientation. Accordingly, the Sun can be observed revolving about the Earth.
      27% of Americans believe that winning the lottery is a good financial plan.
      The survey asked low income households whether bank interest or a lottery win was a better way to gain a $1 million.
      45% of Americans believe in ghosts.
      Democrats perhaps, who have watched their President talk to and shake hands with ghosts
      37% of Americans believe the FDA is intentionally withholding natural cures from the public because of pressure from drug companies.
      Many recall FDA asserting that cannabis had no medical value while accepting the medical value of cannabis components

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    Simon believes to be the great explainer 😀

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      b.nice

      An utter failure of any scientific explanation of CO2 atmospheric warming.

      Or anything else.

      Yes, some Americans are very uneducated and ignorant… they are the ones that “believe” what they are told about CO2 warming, ..

      .. and about mRNA vaccines being safe.. etc etc.

      The percentage of Americans picking up on the danger of the jabbs.. are the ones NOT listed by Simon.

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    John

    So we are to take the word of the public with little or no medical expertise in regard to what other people died from? And we are to take the self-assessment of “side effects” of vaccinations from the same people?

    The other question that no-one seems to ask is whether people who died where covid didn’t seem to be the direct cause did so because they caught covid previously and it weakened some of the body’s functions.

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      Harves

      John, do you ever ask the question, “Why is a product that does not prevent infection still able to be legally called a vaccine?”
      Does this mean any product that purports to minimise the effect of an infection now able to be called a vaccine? Even at best, these so called vaccines are nothing more than anti-virals (but we can’t call them that eh, because anti-virals are bad, right?

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        Detailed statistics and papers show that despite the over-attribution of some cases, overall, total Covid deaths were underestimated by about 15% in the US in 2020 (before vaccines were released). To calculate this researchers use high resolution weekly death data in smaller US regions and look at the pattern of excess deaths — noticing that there were more excess deaths in the same week as the peak case load or the weeks following it, and noticing that this same pattern happened in different regions of the US at different times as the covid waves hit. Other studies in the UK followed people for six months in 2020 and showed that people who had had covid were more likely to die of heart related issues in the following six months than people who didn’t. They were also more likely to get dementia.

        The underestimation was probably not the case in Australia where testing was so intense in 2020. That data applied to the original Wuhan variant, not Omicron, and estimation of anything now is so much more difficult due to vaccination confounding the “spike influence” and affecting general immunity.

        PS: Attribution of death is difficult. If someone is coming down with the flu but doesn’t know it, their reactions times and concentration would obviously be affected and car accidents more likely. Even an autopsy won’t be definitive.

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          KP

          ” car accidents more likely” Funny you mention that Jo, its attributed to the unvaxxed these days, an article just before Xmas was railing against us for killing other motorists because we are un-jabbed.

          The generational decline in IQ is far steeper than I thought…

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      bobby b

      “The other question that no-one seems to ask is whether people who died where covid didn’t seem to be the direct cause did so because they caught covid previously and it weakened some of the body’s functions.”

      If you looked at the numbers they released of “Covid deaths” – including car accident victims, gunshot victims, and the like – you can see that they already baked that thought into their calculations. “Maybe they drove off the cliff because their systems were already compromised!”

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      Steve of Cornubia

      There is plenty of ‘expert’ advice out there, so of course you don’t have to even read what the public thinks. By all means continue trusting experts who said the vaccines were 100% effective, then 99% effective, then 80% …

      I believe we’re currently down to around 33%.

      OK, so maybe they don’t work that well after all, but at least they’re safe – or so those same experts say.

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        another ian

        Remember that the boilerplate for a lot of “expert advice” is that not so well known book

        “How to do it and not get it”

        Authored by

        “One who did it, got it and can’t get rid of it”

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      b.nice

      There is now one heck of a lot of proof that it is the mRNA vaccines that are destroying natural human immune systems and causing clotting and heart, and many other, issues.

      Try not to live in the big-pharma bubble too much longer… for your own sake.

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      Gerry

      To equate medical expertise with the skill set of authorities who control the evidence gathering, autopsies and gathering and disseminating results of COVID deaths and injury is problematic.The incentives (apart from integrity and ethics) to report the truth has been set aside.

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        KP

        “he incentives (apart from integrity and ethics) to report the truth has been set aside.”

        But they’re not hard to sort out- There are people making money from selling drugs, people who make money by forcing others to do what they are told, people who make money by injecting others because they are paid to, and people who give opinions because it will cost them everything to give a different opinion.

        Outside of this are many people who DON’T make money out of telling people how they cured patients of covid, or what they are seeing in deaths and injuries, or what their autopsies show..

        I always look at what incentives the person I’m talking to has for what they are telling me.

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      SimonB

      Maybe check out Milton Keynes experienced Funeral Director John O’Looney and the directives given to him including expectations of him determining cause of death as the existing officials abrogated their professional responsibilities by bowing to political control.
      If these directives (even localised, but in many different jurisdictions worldwide) were adhered to, then the statistics are severely compromised and decisions predicated on them were determined for non scientific reasons!
      Surely you’re enough of a critical thinker to realise there is never one reason for anything. Up until covid, science and medicine believed the same thing thru enquiry, even with vested interests designing biased fact check and debunking outlets to provide a single narrative.

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    Damon

    That there was a potential problem with vaccines was obvious from the moment the pharmaceutical companies were indemnified against damage.

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    David Maddison

    It’s been important for the anti-energy lobby and covid “vaccine” purveyors to promote the corruption of science to further their interests.

    To do this they have had to claim the following falsehoods of science (and medicine):

    1) Scientific fact is decided by “consensus”. FALSE

    2) There is such a thing as “settled science”. FALSE

    3) Dissenting opinions must be repressed. FALSE

    Quoted from elsewhere:

    “Trust the science” is one of the most unscientific statements one can make.

    Questioning scientific results and hypotheses is how you do science.

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      Simon

      And then, once a hypothesis is proven to be correct, you can expand upon that hypothesis with further theorisation and experimentation.

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        b.nice

        “once a hypothesis is proven to be correct”

        40+ years, and the conjecture/hypothesis of CO2 causing atmospheric warming is still totally unbacked by any actual real science.

        That hasn’t stopped the climate worriers from coming up with all sorts of weird and stupid and psycho-delic things that CO2 warming can cause.

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        John Connor II

        And then, once a hypothesis is proven to be correct, you can expand upon that hypothesis with further theorisation and experimentation.

        Groan…

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        red edwards

        There is no “proven to be correct”. There is only that something is not proven false.

        Have hypothesis. It covers all the known facts.
        Create experiment that is not part of the facts.
        Do the experiment.
        If the results don’t match the hypothesis, create new hypothesis that covers all the old facts, plus the new one just found.
        Rinse and repeat – forever.

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    MrGrimNasty

    It looks like trust is failing in the UK.
    By November last year only 47% of eligible people had had the latest covid booster, only 8% of care staff.
    It’s even spread to the flu vaccine with low uptake by medical staff.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11574773/Flu-jab-uptake-NHS-staff-tumbles-lowest-level-DECADE-despite-warnings-flu-nami.html

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    Honk R Smith

    No.
    You are just supposed to believe that Trump colluded with Russia.
    And that warming causes freezing.
    Most experts agree.
    It’s like a consensus.
    Expert consensus good.
    Public consensus bad for ‘Our Democracy’.
    Besides the fact that Jo is reporting perceptions, didn’t see her pronouncing them correct.

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    I personally kwow 2 cases of side effects, one, an elder woman couldn’t move the left arm for about 6 weeks, the other, a much younger woman was unable to move the complete left side over several month in

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    Konrad

    I personally know several people permanently injured by the jabs.

    Two AZ shots finished off my elderly father. The first shot saw him bedridden with PSA levels from a previously slow cancer spiking off the charts. Over several weeks he partially recovered and was walking. Then the second shot knocked him down again with a cardiac condition despite no previous cardiac problems. He passed three days later.

    Then a former employer with mild psoriasis on his knees and elbows got the jab and got a massive rash on his upper arm. It slowly cleared up between shots. The the second shot. This time the rash was far worse and covered his torso/chest. While the broken skin/bleeding is now gone, he has serious permanent scarring.

    What is frightening is that reductions in live birth rates and high excess mortality are continuing to increase despite the fact that there is low uptake of boosters. It appears that the damage caused by these jabs will continue for many years.

    Dr. Bahkdi (German?) is saying that it is not just the spike protein of the COVID shot that is the problem, but that any shot using the mRNA technology will case similar damage. But the WHO are proposing that all vaccines should now use the mRNA approach. It’s unbelievable!

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      Steve of Cornubia

      Three cases in my family. One a death from a sudden appearance of aggressive cancer and two who had seizures, one of whom had a ‘benign’ tumour removed, but of a type that apparently, eventually, progresses to fatal cancer.

      As we speak, jabbed family members in the UK are dropping like flies with what they are calling ‘flu. The symptoms are uncannily like the first variant of Covid – loss of taste and smell, alarming breathing difficulties, copious mucous, etc. Unlike any ‘flu I ever had, it seems to linger for weeks, again just like Covid.

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    John Connor II

    This recent paper from Dr. Polykretis and myself gets the sharp rise in athlete deaths into PUBMED. Since vaccination, “1598 athletes suffered cardiac arrest, 1101 of which with deadly outcome. Over a prior 38-years (1966-2004), 1101 athletes < age of 35 died (~29/yr).
    – Dr. Peter McCullough

    As is so often the case with disease, inflammation is the real problem.
    For athletes, couple heart inflammation with Adrenalin (and probably a few “supplements”) and you’re asking for big trouble…and this is what we’re seeing…

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    My mother in-law now has problems with any old cut or abrasion that won’t heal. Apparently something wrong with her blood and she is early 70’s and especially vigorous. One of her daughters developed arrhythmia, another has reduced effort tolerance. I’m acquainted with a woman who had clots previously and was being managed with medication. She takes the jab and drops dead of clots. In the past she would have been advised to NOT take the jab. Not this time. They just went nuts with this needle.

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    Ross

    Try posting a comment to any of the main newspapers regarding this subject and it will be rejected. I tried yesterday with “ the COVID vaccines are not totally safe and only partially effective”. A statement which to me is rather conservative , accurate , yet it was rejected. Also describing the vaccines as “injectable gene therapies” is also a no:no. We now have a huge problem with MSM censorship in most western countries. Trump said they were the enemy of the people and I’m believing that more and more.

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    Dennis

    A word about US citizens, believe it or not they are just like Australians and many have similar ancestry and migration origins.

    What is an Australian?

    An Australian could have Australian Aborigine ancestry and ancestors from other countries, a multi-cultural society, just like the USA.

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    Martin Hall

    65 years old. I never got vaccinated. I never felt sick. I never locked anything down. I had fun jogging down the middle of the blvd at midnight many times while the rest of the town hid under their beds. Southern California.

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      John Connor II

      People will of course flock to any treatment claiming to cure their ills and there’s no shortage of nonsense and charlatans out there.
      There are 3 real experts I subscribe to on youtube – those that have walked the walk and are in a position to speak with authority. Others are just reciting technical articles or promoting cures that simply don’t work.

      I note in passing that the FDA is looking to regulate/outlaw homeopathy.
      No loss if they do as it’s proven quackology, despite the legion of believers.
      So be wary of magical panaceas and especially any treatment or cure for the vaxx/spike proteins.
      The single best thing you can do is to shift to a highly focussed non-inflammatory eating plan, and that’s an article in its own right.

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        KP

        “the FDA is looking to regulate/outlaw homeopathy.”

        How far does that go JC? Supplements and vitamins too I expect, unless made by some multinational who can afford the FDA bribes.

        How wide is ‘homeopathy’? Just the drops that are diluted a million times or a giant range of other alternative therapies that are not accepted by Western pharma companies? The Bicom machines that work on your electromagnetic fields? I’ve seen them work perfectly well, but that science is not accepted by those in pay of Big Pharma.

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    Grogery

    I think the number of people waking up to c19 injection injuries may still be generally underestimated.

    There will be many that just want to put their hands over their ears and yell so that they cannot hear any discerning views. Buyers remorse, so to speak. And don’t tell me the injections were free, taxpayers funded the oversupplied potion whether we wanted to receive it or not. Reminds me of the ABC funding model.

    Many citizens raced out and got jabbed, or succumbed to the evil coercion by our “caring” governments and health bureaucrats, to “keep” their jobs or be “allowed” to go out. I imagine a lot of them do not want to find out that the experimental injections are not “safe & effective”, so they’ll believe the opposite regardless of what their eyes and ears tell them.

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      I personally know people who have got a cardiac stent, or shingles, frozen shoulder, ankle swelling, Achilles tendon damage, and one whose daughter in law lost twins in utero since vaccination, and it has not occurred to any of them that it was possible the vaccine was connected.

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        Ross

        Hell , Jo, that is terrible.

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        Grogery

        Yes, I agree Jo.

        I know 3 x shingles, a young fit guy from our office that ended up in hospital with heart “issues”, a young guy with his own business that was bedridden for weeks. All after they had received these injections. Also many other people that said they got much more than a sore arm.

        I don’t want to attribute every illness to the injections, but I’ll add 3 recent older gents that suddenly required pacemakers, and a middle-aged friend that found out he has prostate cancer. All after their safe & effective jabs.

        As I said, some or all of these events may not be related to the experimental injections, however I have never seen as many close acquaintances develop so many illnesses in such a short period of time, never ever.

        A few of the younger ones I mentioned have said they are done with the jabs, but some simply can not see or hear what is right in front of them.

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        Vicki

        Jo – I share every one of your experiences re friends who have had these precise reactions to the vaccines! Many friends who have not had previous cardiac issues, are requiring stents.Shingles is common (as you can see from ads on TV) and the first grandchild of a friend had to be aborted in the 3rd trimester because of gross malformations. Friend, an ex-nurse and now a lawyer, scoffs any suggestion that the vaccine may have been the cause.

        The ankle and other joint problems are interesting. On your blog a doctor recently reported seeing a marked increase in joint problems, which he suspects is synovitis caused by the vaccines. This may well be the case, although my own husband had a sudden ankle inflammatory problem. He is not vaccinated, but has had Covid 6 months ago. Is the spike antigen an ongoing problem for the vaccinated and perhaps those who have had Covid? Who knows?

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      Honk R Smith

      They need a new distraction.
      Miami is not underwater.
      MAGA Semi Auto Anti-Our Democracy Anti-trans Supremacists just keep quietly delivering and fixing stuff.
      Monkey Pox did not sell.
      Any guesses?
      Alien invasion?
      Let’s just hope the first message from an off world civilization is not ‘Merry Christmas’ or ‘Allahu Akbar’.
      (I think it’s already been received and it’s ‘Decarbonize’.) 🙂

      A massacre somewhere is most likely, as they are conveniently distracted monitoring election denier and anti-vax Tweets.

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    m2k

    Bret Weinstein’s Dark Horse podcast has just posted a very interesting discussion between Bret and prominent british cardiologist Dr Mahotra regarding Mrna vaccine safety. It’s a stunner.

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    Philip

    People clearly don’t “believe” in the covid vaccine anymore. We know this because they have stopped taking them. So something has changed.

    I read today they are claiming ‘hybrid immunity” is working well, because I think it was 1 in 5 now getting covid in Aus have not had it before. Not natural immunity of course, hybrid 😉

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      Philip

      I recall John Laws with a caller who said she was glad to have had the vaccine and booster but questioned, meekly, the taking of endless boosters, and Laws said “well what’s wrong with that?” So it seems John was more than prepared to being shot up every 4 months or so.

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        John Connor II

        So it seems John was more than prepared to being shot up every 4 months or so

        So he doesn’t have a concealed carry permit anymore(despite his being anti gun)?😎

        Is Laws still on air? Talk about a dinosaur..

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    SimonB

    The biggest loser in this whole political control trip is the medical profession. They have destroyed their credibility with their unquestioning compliance to political whim and defying what their training has demanded of them from day one.
    Coupled with ‘regulatory’ bodies AHPRA, TGA and the laughable AMA the spell has been broken.
    Critical thinkers can’t go back and ignore the contradictions, denials and sheer compliance to accept payments for stabbing patients under the false pretence of immunity and non transmissability!

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      Vicki

      The trouble with the destruction of credibility the medical profession is – where do we go from here? Being a natural inquisitor of accepted doctrines, I have frequently questioned GPs over the years and have found that many are frequently wrong – same goes for specialists.

      However, there is clearly a danger to health maintenance when this distrust is becoming so fundamental. We do need their experience from time to time, and the means of acquiring suitable treatment – including medication. Yet, I have been frankly disgusted with (and there is one exception in my experience) with the unquestioning of fundamental denial of protocols by our medical professionals.

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    FrankH

    Forty-eight percent (48%) of Americans believe there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines,

    Well, of course there are legitimate reasons. Where have the other 52% been for the last three years? I’m reminded of the George Carlin quote: “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

    To my mind there are two ways to look at the COVID vaccine rollout:
    1. It was rushed out without proper testing.
    OR
    2. The pharmaceutical companies and the regulatory authorities are dragging their heels on all the other vaccines that take 10 years or so of testing to gain approval.

    It has to be one or the other. They can’t have it both ways.

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    DOC

    The official response to all this vaccination stuff reminds me of what happened when Abbott, was it, as PM decided there should be an audit of the BOM to see how it all fitted into the Global Warming creed that had been running so long and was demanding so much destruction of western economies in particular. Greg Hunt, I believe, was the Minister assigned to oversee the ‘audit’. Without explanation, he refused to do it!

    I’ve always wonder if Kevin Rudd’s description of some Chinese is also an adequate description of some Australian politicians and bureaucrats. COVID-19 official responses are the second time in less than 20 years that Australian officialdom has run away from investigating major world problems the answers to which appear to be governed from international rather than national jurisdictions.

    Both those big events have caused major disruptions in the way Western nations are governed. Censorship, personal cancellation, ruination if necessary, and full application of police power have been used to enforce a disruptive official stance that begars belief in any scientific discussion, ignores experienced reality of the public and allows for no debate.

    What sort of life are Australians willing to put up with? This is iron curtain stuff and we are rolling over to it. The dumbing down of education must stop. Graduates seem to have no backbone or have lost any sense of logic, surely, if they meekly surrender to this opinion based stuff as fact. Don’t they demand answers anymore? If not, they are useless to society!

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    I forgot to add from my previous post that my friends mum now has neuropathy. I had never heard much of it. Now I hear a lot of it. That’s at least four people I know who are now afflicted….

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    Ed Zuiderwijk

    That quarter may be considered against the one in six Americans who believe that they have been abducted by aliens. And I don’t mean the illegals crossing over from Mexico.

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    JB

    I heard stories of around 8-12 people who died suddenly after being jabbed. At this point in time, I’ve lost count. But, most of the stories came from a guy who had been kicked out of a church group for advocating against the vaccines. Subsequently, he kept hearing that people in the church group were doing nothing but going to to post-jab funerals. He also told me that he’d heard a story about a veteran in Massachusetts (a friend of a friend) who became a quadruple amputee after being vaccinated, like the unfortunate woman in Minnesota.

    Someone else told me about a couple who both died within a week of being vaccinated.

    I also heard stories about people being very sick after getting jabbed.

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    Did any one die from ivermectin?
    Genotoxicity and carcinogenicity of ivermectin and amoxicillin in vivo systems
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31152944/
    Genotoxic and cytotoxic in vitro evaluation of ivermectin and its formulation ivomec
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02772241003625284?journalCode=gtec20

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    I had no problems with Omikron, 4 days and over.
    But what the hell is the RSV Bronchitis for a ill and strange BS. That turns me now round for a second week…

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      To be a bit more precise, in your lungs you have always mouvements and noises, like a little bowling center for mini insects.
      And you have to cough, often without catching the “reason”

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    Yonason

    I know of two who died, allegedly of the virus. But I have no information on whether they had received the inoculation or not, nor do I know if they were denied effective early treatment or coerced into receiving useless or harmful (ventilation, Remdesivir, …). What I do know is that many have died needlessly, because the medical processes were hijacked by biased medical professionals in league with politicians, pharmaceutical execs and insurers practicing medicine w/o a license.

    Also, although he thankfully didn’t die, a close friend was given Remdesivir when hospitalized for the virus, and who now has kidney issues which he didn’t have before.

    I can only imagine that this wouldn’t have gotten so out of hand if only a majority of doctors had refused to be party to the insanity.

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    Kop12

    Hmm, it’s okey?)

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    Kop12

    So many comments and all with recommendations
    https://moz.com/

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    TerraHertz

    When a significant minority are starting to see behind the curtain, a tipping point won’t take many high profile incidents like this:

    20230104
    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/vaxxident-pro-football-player-collapses-in-cardiac-arrest-during-televised-football-game
    A player for the Buffalo Bills football team, Damar Hamlin, made a routine tackle during a game against the Cincinnati Bengals, got up, then collapsed in Cardiac Arrest on the field last night. He was given CPR, his heartbeat was restored, and he was taken by ambulance to UC Medical Center where he is said to be in critical condition.
    The game was being televised live to a national audience when the incident took place. Fans in the stadium were shocked at what they were seeing on the field. (Americal NFL)

    https://patriots.win/p/16ZqYoZpH0/can-you-even-image-the-depressio/c/
    Can you even image the depression, anger and chaos that will arise when people realize they were deliberately poisoned – and that some people they trusted were knowingly in on it?
    (re NFL player Damar Hamlin)

    https://patriots.win/p/16ZqUH0qZS/report-at-least-769-recently-vax/c/
    Report: At Least 769 Recently Vaxxed Athletes Collapsed Last Year During Competition

    https://patriots.win/p/16ZqYqqcW0/interesting-makes-sense-also-why/c/
    Interesting. Makes sense. Also Why is the hospital doctors refusing to answer press questions?
    (re NFL player Damar Hamlin)

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Like it or don’t, the vaxx’s have introduced an extra variable in all disease causes. Statistically, as a causative agent, vaxx’s must be ruled in now. The benefit of doubt is now a lot more of a stretch.

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    Environment Sceptic

    A quarter of the US believe they know someone who died from the Covid vaccines

    I suspect a better headline or questionnaire choice wording might have been,

    A quarter of the US percieved they know someone who died from the Covid vaccines.

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      Environment Sceptic

      rebellion is cheap.

      Rebellion is a major enemy from experience in and out of ancient times.

      Perception is what is needed. To perceive something is far more potent and mindfull than mindless ad hominem rebellion/attack.

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      Environment Sceptic

      If enough people perceive, there is no need for bullets and guns.

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    Environment Sceptic

    To perceive is not the same as rebellion.

    Rebellion and its partner in crime, ‘belief’, go hand in hand.

    Scientists if you like never believe, they perceive, observe, verify.

    It is not a violent process like rebellion at all. Not a shot fired.

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    cherry-picked#7

    Interesting presentation (15mins):
    UK Media Academic outlines Covid propaganda
    [15 Nov 2022] PANDA: Propaganda through censorship, character assassination and coercion | Dr Piers Robinson
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmrIUWqvPNI

    It comes from the PANDA website “Deafening Silencing” subset:
    https://www.pandata.org/deafening-silencing/

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