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Quebec: Unvaxxed only allowed in Big Stores with staff supervision to get food, medicines

Bizarre moments in viral control

In Quebec, unvaccinated humans over 12 are no longer permitted to shop in large stores in Quebec, other than to buy food or pharmaceuticals. If a Big Box store like IKEA, Costco and Wallmart sells food or drugs the unvaxxed will have to be marched through the store by a staff member in case they buy socks or something unpermitted as well.

Does that mean parents who are vaccinated will have to leave their unvaccinated 13 year olds in the car, or at home?

Will unvaccinated parents send their 11 year olds alone into shops to buy forbidden toasters?

Unvaccinated to be Accompanied by Staff in Walmart to Make Sure They Don’t Buy Anything Other Than Food & Pharma

Summit News, Paul Joseph Watson

The rule is set to apply in big box stores so as “to make sure they (the unvaxxed) do not go and buy other products or other items that might be in the store,” according to a CBC newsreader.

In other words, in order to stop the spread of COVID-19, disgusting unvaccinated extremists must be prevented from purchasing things like disposable barbeques and electronic goods.

“For pharmacies located in big-box stores, such as Walmart or Costco, an unvaccinated person must be “accompanied at all times during his or her travels by an employee of the business, the pharmacy or any other person mandated by them for this purpose,” reports CBC, citing the decree. “This person may not purchase products other than those related to the pharmaceutical service they are receiving.”

Imagine how well this will work if 200 unvaccinated people insist on turning up at the same time.

This is, of course, just informed consent:

Health Minister Christian Dubé says the expanded vaccine mandate is meant to encourage more people to get vaccinated.

So the government just forced retailers to pay for Vaccine-Guards to humiliate and harass the unvaccinated in the hope this will persuade them that the government really cares about them and their health will improve if they “trust the government”.

This applies to  stores of more than 16,000 square feet, so stores like Walmarts, IKEA  and Costco. It might be the first time in history that a government has accidentally made a rule that benefits small business owners.

Enforcing new vaccine mandate frustrates some Quebec retailers

High costs, unfair competition, angry customers

On top of customer service challenges, businesses say they’re being dealt a significant financial burden. Canac says it will cost around $100,000 a week to enforce the measure in its 31 stores across Quebec.

For Simon Gagnon, owner of a Sports Experts franchise in Sherbrooke, Quebec’s labour shortage was already making it tough to find staff. Now he says he faces the “colossal challenge” of hiring security guards and employees to scan vaccine passports and he fears he may lose some of his customers.

“What scares us is that instead of lining up, people will go shop somewhere else,” he said, adding that he feels the province is creating unfair competition between larger retailers and smaller stores that don’t have to enforce the new rules.

If they divide a big store into little stores will that end the need for Vaccine-Guards?

Quebec also has a plan to charge adults who are not vaccinated a “health contribution fee” which will be “significant”.

“Those who refuse to get the shot bring a financial burden to hospital staff and Quebecers,” said the premier. “This 10% of the population can’t burden the 90%.”

So if the vaccinated end up needing more hospital care than the unvaxxed will they be charged too?

Western Australia gets its own form of Vaccine Guards at drive through bottle shops next week. More on that Bizarre Moment in Viral Control coming soon.

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175 comments to Quebec: Unvaxxed only allowed in Big Stores with staff supervision to get food, medicines

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    Rick

    The bullying and intolerance just never ends. The mindset of those imposing policies like this is indistinguishable from the that of the NAZIs, Fascists and Communists of the 20th century.

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      Mantaray Yunupingu

      Rick. Methods similar, but the aim: very different.

      Usually the goal of the left is to eliminate the “undesirable” minority. Hence the Js or Gypsies or Kulaks or Uni-educated etc were singled out for destruction while the vast majority of the population remained alive to be exploited by their leftist rulers. However, this time it’s totally different…..

      The scapegoats can EASILY rejoin society by getting gene-jabbed. THEN the whole lot can be exterminated, not just the current contaminated marked-for-death 90%!

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      Ted1

      Do not overlook the fact that Novak Djokovic was not deported for breaking our law. He was deported at the minister’s discretion for potentially causing Australian citizens to decide against vaccination. This has much in common with the examples you cite.

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        Mantaray Yunupingu

        Yeah, but the aims are different.

        In the case of the various socialisms (national, international, Islamic, democratic etc) the aim is to ostracise the minority who are “undesirables” FOREVER. The current situation is to ostracize the non-compliant until they REJOIN the majority (the gene-jabbed).

        In effect, instead of rounding up the non-conformists to throw them over a cliff, the left now wants everyone corralled and then convinced to all walk willingly over that cliff!

        A huge difference.

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        RobB

        In other words, Novak was deported because he might cause Australians to think in a different way. The minister basically admitted that Australians are only allowed to have certain thoughts….. You will own nothing, and you will be happy. It is a post 1984 world.

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          Mantaray Yunupingu

          RobB. You got it: un-gene-jabbed star demolishing the vaxed is very similar to a Black “sub-human” Jessie Owens (direct translation) blitzing the Aryans at the 1936 Olympics. Not welcomed by Adolf…and not welcomed by ScoMo either.

          Interesting sidelight….

          While ScoMo and flunkies were rabbiting on about “Rules is rules. No one can escape the LAW” we see that ScoMo and flunkies allow several thousand “Diplomats, Embassy staffers and Consular Officials” to run about with Diplomatic Immunity from the various rules and laws that the rest of us suffer under.

          That ScoMo knows this while spouting his “rules are for EVERYONE, you little dipsticks” shows what a low-life liar he actually is!

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      Mm in Canada

      Rick, you wouldn’t believe the number of people who go all “righteously indignant” at the very thought that there could be a comparison to the Nazis.

      They don’t realize that everything the Nazis did, they first wrote into German law.

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      max

      All this is consequences of indoctrination and propaganda over the last 100 years.

      in America you can pinpoint date: 1913
      (In 1913, economics and liberty collided when the Federal Reserve Bank was created, the 15th Amendment created the income tax, and the 17th Amendment instituted direct election of Senators.)

      In other Western countries WW1 can be used.

      Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn:
      For the average person, all problems date to World War II; for the more informed, to World War I; for the genuine historian, to the French Revolution.

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      BernardP

      Being myself a Québec resident, I bring the following precisions:

      The Unvaccinated can’t shop for groceries at Walwart and Costco. They can only access the pharmacy, accompanied by an employee.
      Government has ruled that groceries are not these stores “main business”, and thus excluded the unvaccinated.

      Of course, it would be impossible to have an employee accompany each unvaccinated grocery customer.

      Holding pens have ben installed near the entrance of Walmart stores. Unvaccinated customers wait there for the employee that will escort them to the pharmacy.

      See images of the holding pens. They are not scanning booths as mentioned in the link.

      https://www.infowars.com/posts/canadian-walmarts-install-vaccine-passport-scanner-booths-to-screen-customers/

      In a related observation, while shopping this morning at my regular grocery store, I noticed an unusually high attendance. I’m guessing that the extra customers are the unvaccinated who usually shop for groceries at Walmart and Costco.

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    red edwards

    I hope they have good neighbors. . . “Hey Jack, can you buy me these things and leave them on my doorstep. I’ll PayPal you the money. . .”

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    Ian1946

    Desperation is setting in. A 10% unvaxxed control group will make it obvious that the “vaccines” are deadly failure. Comrade Andrews slipped up the other day saying a large percentage of ICU patients had not had a booster. This means they were double vaxxed, if they were unvaxxed it would have been shouted from the rooftops.

    People like Andrews, Mc Clown and Paletstack need to understand that To be a good liar you need a good memory.

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      PeterS

      Trouble is most people do not have good memories so the despot leaders take advantage of that. Time will tell though if the pain threshold is enough to wake people up and stop complying to the draconian mandates en mass.

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      Ted1

      Unfortunately, so many have bad memories that they get away with it.

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      Mike Jonas

      Nice comment, Ian1946. Worth noting perhaps that when they say “This 10% of the population can’t burden the 90%” they are getting it backwards: The whole point of being in the “90%” is to protect yourself from the “10%”. So if you are in the “90%” you don’t have to worry at all if a “10%” person is in the shop next to you.

      Or maybe the government knows that the vaccines don’t work.

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      Konrad

      “To be a good liar, you need to have a good memory”.

      Well said Ian.

      Here’s the thing: our government liars don’t have a good memory. They got slack. They relied on the lickspittle state stenographers of the Establishment Misleadia to be the gatekeepers of opinion and record. They were supposed to control what opinions you were allowed to have, and what facts you were allowed to remember.

      But the Interwebs ended that game. The Interwebs have a memory so good that it vaporizes liars near instantly.

      I’m watching the truckers roll into Ottawa live on my phone. If you were watching the Establishment Misleadia, you would have no idea that there was multiple truck convoys approaching Ottawa.

      In this day and age, being a good liar doesn’t just require a “good” memory. It requires a memory superior to the electronic memory of the Interwebs. No human can achieve this. This is where “Team Plandemic” stuffed up …

      To play these games in the age of the Internet you need to fool ALL of the people ALL of the time. Even the best of liars should have realized that this is impossible.

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      Deano

      So much of the official COVID vaccination campaign material seems to be aimed at morons. I understand they can’t launch into a full science conference level discussion of the details, but when they treat us like we barely understand what a virus is I know deception is at work.
      A good parallel is the description of how cryptocurrency works.

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    Klem

    The virus can distinguish the vaccinated from the unvaccinated by the type of items they buy, because science.

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      Mm in Canada

      The virus also knows the time of day, whether you are standing up or sitting down (unless you’re at a fast food restaurant, in which case it apparently can’t tell or just doesn’t go to the trouble of checking), the size of the store you are in, and can detect the date of your 19th birthday. / Sarc Off.

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        Apparently in Australia, the virus can cross over closed State and Territory Borders along with animals, insects and ………………………..Who would have thought it?

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      Deano

      It also attacks you if you’ve developed natural immunity because COVID-19 viruses have heavily invested in Pfizer shares to look after them when they shortly become unemployable.

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        philemon

        I heard the SARS-COV-2 has genetically altered Big Pharma to make them produce vaccines to ensure easier transmission and viral reproduction. It’s a novel evolutionary strategy for a virus. Darwin always wins. 😉

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      jelly34

      This is similar to the”Global Warming(climate change)”sciences.Must be why it’s failing.The”Science”is flawed.Lol.

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    jelly34

    I predict that this new measure won’t last very long.Typical leftard thinking(?)They NEVER think things through.

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      Scissor

      I suppose purchasing ammo is out of the question.

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      Gerry

      Yep….never ask why and, if you slip up one day, never never attempt an answer ….

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      Micheal

      Apart from the personal escort this has already happened in Victoria: guards at doors to check your certificate, under 12s who couldn’t be vaccinated at that time left on the street. What a mad, mad world we live in. If the vaccines work the only people at risk are the unvaccinated!

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      Thomas A

      Yep! Increase costs and barriers to major retailers. Consumers say “Screw you!” and do their shopping online. Typical myopic public servant thinking: introduce policies to stem disobedience and infractions and create an entirely unanticipated reaction and market correction.

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    As regards Walmart, this seems to be a slightly different version of jo’s story

    https://summit.news/2022/01/27/canadian-walmarts-install-vaccine-passport-scanner-booths-to-screen-customers/

    It shows a picture of the booths at the entrance employees use to scan in the great unwashed, presumably whilst ringing a handbell loudly to proclaim their crime

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      PeterS

      It’s time for people to follow the example of the Canadian truckers and simply en mass push through into the stores, vaccinated or not. United we stand, divided we fall.

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    Steve Brown

    The Leftist idiocy knows no bounds!

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    Zigmaster

    When governments go to such extreme measures to get people to take the vaccine the most normal reaction has to be “ what is the real agenda?”. If you’ve held on this long without getting vaccinated such antics by governments will just confirm your fears. There is no way these rules will encourage vaccination . In fact quite the opposite effect will happen.

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      PeterS

      Agree 100%. I’m not vaccinated. I thought about waiting for the Novavax vaccine and use it but that was a long time ago. Now that the worst is over and in spite of the vaccine now being available, I will not bother getting vaccinated. I simply do not see the need for it now that Omicron has taken over and is considered to be no worse than a bad flu, if that.

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        Mark Allinson

        “Now that the worst is over and in spite of the vaccine now being available, I will not bother getting vaccinated.”

        Yes, Novavax is now available, but do you realise that you will not be “fully vaccinated” without also accepting a mRNA “booster”?

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          Grogery

          Yes.

          And even after the first mRNA booster, for how long will you be considered “fully vaccinated”?

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          PeterS

          The meaning of “fully vaccinated” is more political than that.

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            Mark Allinson

            Yes, ‘fully vaccinated” is a political statement, not medical, and means – “I hereby surrender all independent thought and action and sign my future into the hands of the State to do with me as it will.

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          Brett

          Have the dictators given a reason why Novavax can’t be used as a booster

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        Same here. I remain unvaccinated from this virus. I have been waiting for the Human testing results to show up. I know of two couples. Both have been double jabbed and both got the virus. Me being unvaccinated have not had the virus and if I had I probably just passed it off as a runny nose. My immune system rules OK………………And I’m only 69 years young to boot with no underlying health issues that I know of. My two remaining brain cells are in fine working order (I fink)…………

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        Konrad

        I’m unjabbed, fancy free, and loving it!

        I do understand that excessive indulgence in Shadenfreude is unhealthy … but it’s so delicious I just can’t stop! Do the put MSG in Schadenfreude …?

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      Forrest Gardener

      Agreed. Any time governments want to substitute their judgment for my own I ask the same question. Many government droids are quite confused when I tell them I want government out of my life.

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      Zigmaster
      Sdaly it appears that Australians, for the most part, are incapable of critical thinking and of asking why we are being forced to take a remedy which is now shown to be completely useless, and in fact dangerous.

      Thomas Renzs publicising of what can only be described as catastrophic increases in miscarriages, neurological conditions etc in the US Military will no doubt be disregarded, as EUDRA Vigilance & VAERs figures showing huge nos of injuries and many deaths. The question needs to be asked as to why people have no interest in figures which, if published 25 years ago would have shut down the Pharma dealers in death immediately?

      Sadly it will take huge nos of Australians to succumb before the sheep realise this is a complete disaster, only then it will be way past too late.

      My wife, myself and two sons have lasted this long and every day are ever more confident that not taking these mutation therapies is completely the right thing to do.

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    Would that actually be good news for small business?

    As we hear more and more stories of the double and triple vaccinated having also tested positive twice in just a few months, this post is just more evidence that letting it rip closes borders of many kinds on every scale.

    The UK has returned to the never ending growth rate of 1 and the perpetual new variant excuse continues to fool people into waiting for a “peak” that cannot happen. Peak gridlock could happen though.

    The gridlock must begin to ease as the immune weakened brain fog reaches the too many boosters limit and begins to die of acne and bed bug bites.

    Meanwhile Tonga remains at zero cases and zero deaths in a world where that cannot be done despite a natural disaster.

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      PeterS

      That’s not the plan. Small businesses are being destroyed as we speak. Big business in collaboration with the government has been pushing that agenda for some time now.

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        Clearly but “the plan” is not going to work. Supply and demand will punish it as it kills itself.

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          PeterS

          The “plan” is already working. So many small business have already closed down due to lack of staff and restrictions. I thought that was pretty well known.

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            “The “plan” is already working.” Agree. And it has worked well.
            But in the long term the small can restart and adapt but the large and inflexible is painting itself into a corner.

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      jelly34

      At first I couldn’t believe that OUR BETTERS would do this to US,but have to admit that I was wwwrong.But don’t believe all that they tell you.They lie profusely.But it looks like the sheeple are waking up and beginning to fight back.Go the truckers in Canada.I have also heard that there are some who are going to emulate the Canadians.

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    Forrest Gardener

    I wonder whether the uninjected are able to use a click-n-collect style service.

    As I tell my daughters I want to spend as little time as possible in any venue full of injected people. I have reason to believe the injections promote infection. Click-n-collect helps minimize contact with the injected.

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      Yes good plan. Best leave the self destructing to do it on their own. But i wonder if buying from a business that only sells by delivery could provide further isolation from the infectious vaccinated.

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      Mantaray Yunupingu

      Yeap. Keep your distance from those who [SNIP — we don’t need demonize in return]

      My aged Beagle (going on 18, FFS) spent 13 years as a sniffer dog, and STILL reacts to the scent of the gene-jabbed as if he were back on the job. Once a cadaver dog: always a cadaver dog!

      BTW: In 1987 I spent a night in Pripyat, which is about 3ks from Chernobyl. No-one wanted to get too close to those poor contaminated power-plant suckers then……so why would anyone want to even APPROACH the gene-jabbed now? Stay clean: keep healthy!

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        “cadaver dog”
        Easily able to detect the walking dead?
        The new case count accuracy seems to have been destroyed by the RATS race here in Australia. Your comment has me again wondering what ever happened to the covid sniffer dogs? I know they were used in Finland. Despite the burden of being next door to Sweden with 1,551 deaths per million, Finland had 350. Is the better testing part of the reason?

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          Annie

          They tried them in Dubai too iirc. Never did hear what became of that.

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          Mantaray Yunupingu

          Sliggy. Ya got it. The Inspector is about three quarters blind, and similarly deaf these days…but THAT NOSE….still firing at pretty close to 100%, as fine as when he was a sprightly one-year-old!

          Anyhow, there’s no way the gene-jabbed can hide what they’ve done. He smells the gene-jabbed cadavers coming, and drops to the ground as if they are already buried. Too late for Beyond Blue for those sad sacks….the deed is done.

          BTW: The facts: “As part of this research, they tested the scenting abilities of various breeds by putting a mouse in a one-acre field and timing how long it took the dogs to find it. The beagles found it in less than a minute, while Fox Terriers took 15 minutes and Scottish Terriers failed to find it at all.” When it comes to the gene-jabbed “dead mice” there is no mistake

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            KP

            I expect they are training them to do the opposite now, go into a crowd and pick out the one in twenty who has NOT been jabbed. Walk into this store and find the untermensch, go through this football crowd, pick them out in this mall…

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      BS Buster

      FG, not in the communist state of Western Australia as of next week.

      I did a test run at my local bottle shop this week using click and collect direct to boot where you don’t even get out of your car and the procedure is you show your ID through a closed car window.

      Apparently after the 31st January, dictator McClown has decreed that this is not “allowed” until you “show your papers”. True communism at work.

      What he doesn’t realise is that those smart enough to resist his blatant illegal coersion to get “jabbed” will find ways around his vindictive, illegal and discriminatory mandates, and get on with their lives, but when he tries to stop us buying food then all hell will break loose.

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        How long is that nonsense supposed to last?

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          Mantaray Yunupingu

          I’m guessing the actual number of gene-jabbed to be very low. Which explains the crazy hysterical desperation of McClown and his henchmen.

          Recalling Adolf in his bunker (see multiple Downfall parodies) I suppose the jerk is GEMUINELY awaiting phantom divisions of volunteers to save his bacon. And that’s it: until his Downfall he’ll be ranting like a Karen on steroids while the peasants suffer FOR him. What a tosser!

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            TonyB, Premier Mark McGowan says “for years” but he is just panicked at the moment, and has admitted he is doing it to coerce the unvaxxed. Obviously he couldn’t tell everyone it may only apply for a couple of months, or they would just wait it out.

            I’m hoping (and protesting) that once Omicron comes and goes he will calm down (the virus is about to go “big” for the first time here as schools reopen next week).

            Mantaray, — WA is 90% double vaxxed despite being nearly “Zero Covid” for the entire pandemic — but the state is only 30% boosted. Hospital capacity has been mysteriously struggling without Covid and without influenza too.

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              OriginalSteve

              Jo

              Does the West Australian Soviet have offical (or accurate ) figures for cases and hospitalization by vaccination status? If so, where do they get stashed please?

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              Mark Allinson

              ” … admitted he is doing it to coerce the unvaxxed.”

              The new Nazis of Austria are doing the same thing – “agree to join the world’s largest experimental drug trial with the worst record of deaths and injuries of any vaxx in history or we will fine you, take your job, imprison you, bar you from shopping, and do everything else we can to destroy your life.”

              It’s only a matter of time till they lost patience with the refuseniks and send out the [snip, “vaccination teams” lets use less emotive descriptors ok – Jo?]

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                John B

                They learnt nothing from Captain Georg von Trapp and Julie Andrews.

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                jelly34

                Well,three of the states have”Internment Camps”either built or are building as we speak.Vicdanistan,NSW and Qld are building them at a great pace.Guess I know where I’ll be going….

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              Maverick

              Jo, I was one of 22 people interviewed by a former ABC journalist doing his PHD at Uni of Newcastle – the interview was about being a climate denier. I have got the transcript that I would like to email to you but I have lost your email address. According to the transcript I apparently I say “umm” a lot which is embarrassing – If you are interested please email me [email protected].

              The interviewer was a good guy who after his time at the ABC hates journalism and said “if you don’t listen o news you are ill-informed, if you listed to the news you are misinformed”

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          Philip

          Have patience like the Taliban, and receive you’re victory.

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        Destroyer D69

        the acceptance of “Click and Collect” is just another surrender to the “Digital Currency” chapter of the “Great Reset”…”NO takee Cashee NOT a Customer”

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    Zigmaster

    This will be great encouragement for the truckies . Just stop delivering goods to the supermarkets.

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      Yes the only solution to letting it rip is to close that border too.

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        BS Buster

        Looks like nature has just closed the road and rail border to WA due to all the rain in SA.1 in 100 year event!! Forecast now of shortages in WA for maybe 6 weeks due to this.

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          Yes. I am wondering which things will disappear here first. I know we get some cheese, nuts, milk, some fruits, from the East. We have market gardens here, fisheries and milk, meat production, plus abattoirs. They may struggle to keep up with the full range, but we are a food exporter, we won’t starve. I’m not sure what the rail containers are full of on the Indian Pacific. We probably don’t have mass processed pre-made meals here (not that I buy them), but they are in freezer-containers — does that travel by rail or road because it’s pretty b– hot across the Nullabor.

          Does the rail carry Bunnings/Harvey Norman/Kmart deliveries, or do they come by boat?

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            clarence.t

            No frozen potato chips in Coles, Maitland this morning.

            Basically no loo paper either. !

            Didn’t notice any other huge holes in stock.

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            Lawrie

            A few years ago I was shown through a large distribution centre in Melbourne. There were orders for many WA towns and they were being put on B doubles.

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    Yonniestone.

    The harder they push the harder the push back, the only way governments can implement such policies is through other people, once the majority refuse to comply we will then see how far they’re willing to go to get their own way.

    So far they’ve used fear and force, once the fear is gone force is the other option, tis the way dictators and tyrants have always operated.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Yes Yonniestone. It is also the way throughout the entirety of human history in which 100% of all dictators and tyrants have brought themselves undone. Many have ended up on the wrong end of a noose or a guillotine.

      Somehow, once they have given in to their totalitarian instincts they lose their knowledge of history.

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      Ted1

      Were should I look for stats?

      I want to know from a sample in NSW, say one day’s reporting:
      1. Total number of new cases
      2. Detailed vaccination status of those cases.

      Where is this information published?

      That would enable us to make an accurate assessment of the effectiveness of the vaccines.

      I do not accept that these “vaccines” are bringing any benefit at all when the authorities have a history of lying over such a small matter as masks..

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        OriginalSteve

        Ta da!

        See first link below for a general location of info. They release weekly reports.

        https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx

        https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-surveillance-report-20220120.pdf

        “COVID-19 WEEKLY SURVEILLANCE IN NSW
        Epidemiological week 1, ending 8 January 2022

        “Published 20 January 2022”

        “Appendix C: Additional tables and figures”

        Page 26

        “Total COVID-19 cases by vaccination status and week reported, NSW, 16 June 2021 to 8 January 2022”

        “Vaccination Status”

        “Fully vaccinated 159,127 (70%)
        “Partially vaccinated 1,468 (1%)
        “No effective dose 779 (<1%) – ( either 21days < since vaxxed, or unvaxxed – not specified )
        "Under investigation 46,955 (21%)
        "Not eligible (aged 0-11 years) 18,343 (8%)
        "Total 226,672 (100%)

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          Will

          Can you actually trust ANY such data from a blatantly leftist bureaucracy that has led this country into darkness with its lies?
          The evil (IMO) witch who is chief health officer is far from atypical as she personifies any and all leftist bureaucrats, everywhere.

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    Bruce of Newcastle

    You could have a lot of fun with this sort of thing.

    Go into Walmart, collect a Walmart Karen and a big trolley. Trudge briskly around the aisles and ask the Karen each time “can I put this in my trolley?” Especially good if you make sure you go up and down the length of the store many times (think of it as your daily exercise).

    After about fifty food items the poor Karen would be going up the walls in frustration.

    Then, when the trolley is nice and full, you get an obvious non-food item, say a toaster, and put it prominently on top. When the Karen naturally objects you say ‘I’m not buying anything if I can’t buy the toaster too’, then walk out of the shop leaving the Karen with a huge trolley load of stuff to put back on the shelves.

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    The Queensland CHO loudly proclaimed yesterday that fully ONE THIRD of all hospital admissions and those in ICU were ….. UNvaccinated.

    Hmm! I, umm, guess that means that the other two thirds WERE vaccinated!!!!!

    The English language. It’s just so [email protected] complex.

    Tony.

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      Simon Thompson

      Remember these psychopaths consider unvaccinated to contain people with up to jabs prior to the 14 days post double jab- so they can hide the fauXinne morbidity. The English language is being redefined on the fly to suit the deadly narrative Tony!

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      Ronin

      I always love that one, ” 25% of all traffic accidents are caused by drunks”, ok, what about the other 75%.

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      shannon

      The majority of the media are reporting this way atm. Talk about trying to “baffle us with BS” !!

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      Ted1

      Sorry! Clumsy thumb!

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    Mark Allinson

    “Bizarre moments in viral population control”

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    philemon

    Yeah, reportedly. In Quebec, just before Christmas, churches were declared “non-essential” and forced to close down. Then, just before the New Year. In Quebec, you could go to church ONLY IF you had three “papers please” Vazi-passes, showed ID, signed in, wore a mask and “socially” distanced.

    No wonder Canadians are fed up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQtmRs3Vd9I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOQT1G44UpI

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      Will

      But not mosques IIRC.
      Funny that!

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      Philemon
      I know churches that NEVER stopped their services during lockdowns. These are true Christians. I remain utterly disgusted that my church kowtows to the govt and closes during lockdowns. After a lot of complaints the pastors now ignore those who won’t mask and won’t check in, but narrowly voted recently to keep the church open during the Omicron situation.

      Interestingly, last year we had a visit from an Open Doors representative and people clapped his presentation particularly when he talked about churches in central Asia defying govt decrees and holding services in secret.

      These clowns here simply cannot understand that their actions in shutting during lockdowns, and shamefully in other areas excluding the unjabbed, are completely against Christs message to continue meeting, and diametrically opposed to the true Christians in Central Asia and elsewhere who meet regardless of govt edict…

      Utter shame on the mainstream churches who worship the govt not Jesus.

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    Harves

    Here’s another one of those so called experts. Yes, the ones who have typically overestimated the covid cases, hospitalisations and ICU patients by about 10 fold. The ones who claim where not at the peak, when simple logic says we were there last week.
    Well, here he goes on why Australia should not follow Europe in opening up:

    “Dr Burgio said winter would “certainly” have an impact as Australia continued to navigate the pandemic.

    “As Covid-19 virus transmission involves aerosols, rooms will be less ventilated due to cold weather and people will tend to gather in warm rooms,” he said.

    “Therefore, it will certainly impact the transmission of the virus and its spread.”

    Now let’s just follow the logic here. He’s saying that people gathering in warm unventilated rooms increases transmission. Right. Hang on. Last winter the Victorian government said that the way to fight covid was for everyone to stay locked inside in warm rooms.?
    Where was Dr Burgio? He should have been advising people not to stay indoors.

    2022 definition of expert: Any person with a view that supports the Govt/media daily talking point.

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      Possibly the result of trusting the WHO on aerosol spread but not being in synchronisation with the organisation’s self contradiction back flip oscillation rate.

      “Now, 13 months since the World Health Organization (WHO) declared a pandemic, and the agency has formally recognised that the virus is airborne.”
      https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/a-welcome-step-who-acknowledges-aerosol-spread-of

      Australia at covid zero still lacked high volume remote quarantine. Like pre-equipped motor homes or cabins spaced well apart so that people could get some fresh air and sunshine. But Florence Nightingale was ignored.
      “Letter from Florence Nightingale describing the benefits of clean air, 8 September 1860”
      https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/letter-from-florence-nightingale-describing-the-benefits-of-clean-air

      “the peak”? What makes this peak the last of the many?

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        I think the Chinese doctors knew it was airborne in January 2020. They were wearing full hazmat plus goggles taped to their faces.

        Humidity is often more important to viral survival than temperature, so the virus spread in Florida in July 2020 because people were indoors in air conditioned dry spaces. Cold dry air is SARS favourite “happy space”.

        Faster airflow, and warmer humid air, is a good way to reduce viral numbers. It is harder to stop the spread in winter. The biggest problem is probably Vitamin D levels. If only we *could fix that*?

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      Lawrie

      By then we should have all had the bug and recovered.

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    Furiously+Curious

    I think this will benefit amazon more than small business.
    Getting through the fauci book. I have to thank Jo and many contributors on here, as I havent come across anything new so far. But it is helpful to have it all in one place. I try to picture the effects on vaxxer friends, and wonder if the conspiracy meme will be too strong. What strikes me is the sheer ruthlessness of big pharma, and their minions, and the tsunami of pressures they have come up with, across societies. As Buffy Sainte Marie said , “money doesn’t talk, it swears.” And now they have major pots of money, and fauci is still standing. Part of his head is blown off, he’s lost an eye, and a foot, his right arm is dangling by his side, his armour is dented and cracked, ripped cloth flutters in the wind, and they wheel him out and listen reverently to his mumbling. Might it even be a perfect example of ‘the king has no clothes’?

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    Ian1946

    A friend told me a story of how his daughter went to a function with her triple vaxxed friend. They both caught the plague and had identical symptoms.

    “Safe and effective” ? The money train rolls on for big Phama with zero return.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Trudeau, the Nero of our time.

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      OldOzzie

      Why hasn’t Fauci been fired and put under FBI investigation yet?

      Dr. Anthony Fauci, the White House top medical adviser, shouldn’t be on TV; he should be under federal investigation answering serious questions about his knowledge of the National Institutes of Health’s reckless funding of dangerous gain-of-function research of bat coronaviruses at China’s Wuhan lab via EcoHealth Alliance while overseeing the government agency.

      And the so-called infectious disease expert leading the US COVID-19 pandemic response should be explaining shocking new information and emails obtained by Fox News’ “Special Report” program exposing Fauci’s reported role in withholding vital information about the true origins of the suspected bioengineered coronavirus and subsequent alleged cover-up at the outset of the pandemic beginning in January 2020.

      The fact that America’s highest medical officer reportedly failed to disclose this critical information to the public is beyond frightening; it’s a dereliction of duty warranting his immediate dismissal and full investigation by authorities.

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        Tel

        Of course, at this late stage there are buckets of evidence that Fauci was in on it and knew perfectly well all along. People were suspicious about this right back in 2020, but that was before all the FOIA details got dragged out into the public sphere.

        https://joannenova.com.au/2020/05/weekend-unthreaded-313/#comment-2334042

        Going back to 2020 though, the real question is why Trump did not get in there and start putting the whole lot onto the Whitehouse web site, right at the first possible opportunity? Why didn’t Trump launch his own investigation into it?

        It should not be Rand Paul asking Fauci a handful of questions in 2022 … what should have happened is Trump should have dressed down Fauci with all of the evidence laid out right there in 2020. Now we are in a situation of being two years too late. Trump was way too soft on these guys.

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          Tel, I don’t think Trump realized Fauci would obtain God-like saviour status in mere weeks last Feb. Once Fauci had that, despite his mask bad-good lie, it was very hard for Trump to sack him, especially with the media all ProFauci.

          But yes, all our Western leaders needed to suddenly learn some basic microbiology and get advice from outside the Orthodoxy, then sack the failures, and the ones who were inconsistent.

          Great leaders keep asking good questions til they figure out which are the best advisors.

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            Tel

            The President gets access to every email of Fauci, and every email of the NIH … Trump was in command of the entire executive branch.

            Trump had the opportunity to drag out so much dirty laundry, and to question Fauci live, item by item, that Fauci would have been begging to be allowed to resign. Trump trusted those guys, and they rolled him.

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              Hanrahan

              I’m looking forward to Trump 47, if it isn’t already too late.

              He won’t make the same mistakes and will be more ruthless with people. He will not tolerate a Jeff Sessions again for example.

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              Will

              Do you really believe that Trump or any head of state reads all emails/documents?
              THAT is what advisors, commonly called bureaucrats, do.
              See the problem?

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                Tel

                He has the choice of what he wants to read and what he doesn’t want to read. I once worked at a place where the branch manager did read EVERY email in and out of that branch, and he was a quiet but effective branch manager.

                Trump has enough money to hire people to assist, and anyhow the US executive branch include large numbers of staff. If Trump cannot judge the character of his employees that’s his own failing … after spending years in business and writing books about deals we expect better.

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              Kalm Keith

              “They rolled him”.

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              Gerry

              Do you remember how many fights Trump was fighting at any one time? And the swamp anything he tried to do had to get through? It’s easy to pick here and there, the guy however was trying to carry the hopes of countless disenfranchised whilst fighting the quicksand.

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              jelly34

              You would be surprised how little power President Trump had under the DemocRATS and RINO’s.They kept him on a very short leash.

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          Will

          Because he still then trusted the advice given to him by leftist bureaucrats.
          That alone was his one and greatest mistake: he actually thought that they were honest professionals.
          This alone defines him as an honest politician whatever his personal flaws may be, and that itself is a rarity.

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    David Maddison

    unvaccinated humans

    Trans-species is a thing you know. They are called “otherlin”.

    Why can’t people just identify as a non-human species?

    If the Left think a man can be a woman and vice versa, then a human can also be otherkin.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/yvwknv/what-does-it-mean-to-be-trans-species

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    A troubling evolution in our politics? Careerists don’t become servants just because they win office. We end up working for ‘them’ and they get quite vindictive when we don’t do as we are told. The needle won’t stop the spread but barring me from the bottle shop will??

    Do me good mind you….

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    In the German news today

    In the view of Baden-Württemberg’s Minister President Winfried Kretschmann [Greens], scientists such as virologists should stay out of politics. “Max Weber pointed out that science describes the world as it was, is and will be. They can also describe how the world could be changed. But science cannot say whether one should also change the world,” the Green politician told the “Heilbronner Stimme” and the “Südkurier” (Saturday) with reference to the sociologist (1864-1920).

    Scientists should definitely have the sovereignty of interpretation over their subject, Kretschmann said. “But they should also stick to it and refrain from giving political advice.” That could significantly affect their scientific authority, the prime minister said. “For example, whether compulsory vaccination now creates political collateral damage – which it undoubtedly will – that is not now within the competence of the Stiko or whoever.” That is the competence and task of the politicians who were elected for this purpose – not of the epidemiologists. “Some things have slipped.”

    The chairman of the Permanent Vaccination Commission (Stiko), Thomas Mertens, had spoken out against a general Corona vaccination obligation.

    Sharp criticism came from the opposition in the Baden-Württemberg state parliament. “Mr Kretschmann is now at the stage where he wants to muzzle anyone who disagrees with him,” FDP parliamentary group leader Hans-Ulrich Rülke announced on Friday. He said that if there was a random majority in favour of compulsory vaccination among his random citizens, then the Ministry of State would proudly announce it. “But if the chairman of the Stiko has reservations, then he wants to shut him up,” Rülke said. A “Corona Citizens’ Forum”, staffed by the green-black state government with randomly selected citizens, had come out in favour of a general Corona vaccination requirement by a majority on Thursday.

    Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

    German source

    Who are these people electing such a moron.

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    John R Smith

    “This 10% of the population can’t burden the 90%.”

    This rule could be applied to many things.
    The old.
    The handicapped.
    Noisy Children.
    The current holders of political office.

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      Tel

      I’m fairly sure I’m one of the 10% who pays more tax than the other 90% … so anytime those government guys want to sort out this business of fairness and burden in tax payments I might stop thinking of them as a bunch of opportunistic hypocrites.

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    Geoff Sherrington

    The dominant fact is that with with Omicron, infection is passed to others at the same rate whether the donor of the infections is vaccinate, unvaccinated or has some immunity from earlier Covid infections.
    Next, the latest Omicron variant, B.A.2. is twice as contagious as the original B.A.1 detected about 2 months ago. The transmission of the virus by B.A.2. is so high, that it is very difficult for any person or country to avoid it. Most people will be infected by it, but many will not become very ill. The salient point here is that Omicron confers a natural immunity against earlier versions like Alpha and Delta (but not the reverse). Therefore, it is an acceptable strategy to be relaxed about catching Omicron because of its future protection.
    It is wise to be vaccinated as well, because this reduces the severity of the near-inevitable week of illness and reduces hospital numbers.
    ……..
    If you have a child under 12 or so, you are now being offered vaccines for that child. What is the best tactic? Do you allow the vaccine and hope that long term side effects are acceptable? Or do you reject the vaccine because of that danger, to rely on the wild immunity from Omicron ( which is a deeper immunity than the vaccines, which do not condition so many relevant cell proteins).
    Unfortunately, the answer to the vaccinate the child or not question is badly fogged by the slow and often incomplete disclosure of numbers by official, when those numbers are needed to made the best decision. The urge to vaccinate 100% or else is strong among the many control freaks who help decide policy.
    …………..
    Finally, most studies of the Covid-19 numbers are badly affected by poor definition and management. Remember the early criticisms for failing to define “Death from Covid” versus “Death with Covid”?
    Some recent numbers from the England and Wales covered years 2020 and the first three quarters of 2021. They showed that death certificates with ONLY Covid-19 as the cause were 17,000. This compared (with all UK for whole of years 2020 and 2021) with excess deaths from all causes where Covid was listed on the death certificate of 174,000. You can see how poor definition of categories gives quite different outcomes.
    Of course, this set of figures encourages people to better manage their comorbidities. Sadly, there has been next to no publicity about the 17,000 figure to suggest that people should manage them better.
    This is typical of outcomes where politics suppresses some figures while advertising others at great taxpayer expense. Geoff S

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      Geoff, the medical papers I am reading suggest that mRNA vaccines should not have been approved for healthy children, and probably not for younger healthy adults. There is no informed consent. I doubt most parents would accept the risk if they were reading the same papers as I have seen, and those papers were being discussed in the media instead of censored.

      We really don’t know if there will be long term side effects for kids. To some extent that’s true of the virus as well, but I’m assuming I am hearing all the worst case scenarios for kids catching viruses.

      Sweden has not approved vaccines for the under 12s.https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sweden-decides-against-recommending-covid-vaccines-kids-aged-5-12-2022-01-27/

      STOCKHOLM, Jan 27 (Reuters) – (This Jan. 27 story corrects headline to kids aged 5-11 from 5-12)

      Sweden has decided against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11, the Health Agency said on Thursday, arguing that the benefits did not outweigh the risks.

      “With the knowledge we have today, with a low risk for serious disease for kids, we don’t see any clear benefit with vaccinating them,” Health Agency official Britta Bjorkholm told a news conference.

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        Geoff Sherrington

        Jo,
        I could not agree more.
        We are seeing plenty of the ugly face of domineering decision makers and influencers.
        There are many aspects being obfuscated. Some are, as you know:
        1. Did the virus come from Wuhan Labs?
        2. Why did WHO early say it was nor spread through the air?
        3. Why have studies of the therapies like IVM etc. that we read of, been suppressed?
        4. Why did some scientific journals dump on such alternatives?
        5. Why was there little apparent attempt to distinguish between “died from ” and “died with”?
        6. Why were virtually all detailed studies of vaccine trials kept secret, some reported for decades of secrecy?
        7. Why were the methods of recording possible deaths and illnesses from vaccine injections so unsuitable?
        8. Why were injections everywhere not recommended with aspiration?
        9. Why were we not told of the small number of deaths in UK showing death certificates with Covid as the only cause?
        10. Why is there a suspect classification of post-injection data for the 14-day period following, when an effect can be classed as pre-Covid or post-Covid, on whim?
        These are but some of the concerns that I have in my memory. Doubtless others have many more.

        ………….
        Before this all started, I wrote to the Medical Journal of Australia, asking for retraction of a poor paper by the Chief Medical Officer in Victoria and others. It was about incorporating global warming into Victorian laws and regs. The stamp of the oppressive bureaucrat was evident then. It is sad that it has continued through this Covid episode.
        ………….
        This is a time to worry about authoritarian encroachment on personal liberties. Geoff S

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      KP

      “It is wise to be vaccinated as well, because this reduces the severity of the near-inevitable week of illness and reduces hospital numbers.”

      A read through the accounts of illness arising from the vaccines would make you think twice about this idea.. A vaccine against the Omicron BA1 flu?? Well, the ones they’ve pushed for years are hopeless, and now you want to be vaccinated against an Omicron BA2 cold?

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        BruceC

        “It is wise to be vaccinated as well, because this reduces the severity of the near-inevitable week of illness and reduces hospital numbers.”

        Official NSW Health figures beg to differ;

        NSW COVID deaths since January 11th (10th) – January 29th (28th), 2021 – as per NSW Health Government daily reports: https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/2022-nsw-health.aspx

        Deaths: 538
        Vaccinated: 403
        Not-vaccinated: 135

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    SimonB

    Trudeau is a true visionary! His unique style of persecution of healthy unvaxxed people doesn’t come with the expected neon flashing light or red vest with covid denier written on it, it comes with personal shoppers and security to ensure the healthy unvaxxed don’t get covid from the automatic weapon aisles or electronics department where the fully quadruple boostered, but Omicron infected shoppers handling everything.
    In typical Marxist mindlessness expect the template to now be followed by Macron, Ardern, Andrews, McGowan as no opportunity for mindless control should be missed by the tolerance movement.
    Who needs herd immunity when you have sheeple, eh Justin?

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      The person interviewed by Peterson was a member of the 1982 committee that created Canada’s Constitution which he argues is being violated by the Trudeau Government. He is filing a lawsuit against the government which should have wide appeal. He has a lot to say on the subversion of parliamentary process, govt Medja funding and push polling during Covid. Start about 1 minute in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdhFuMDLBDM&ab_channel=JordanBPeterson

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      Hanrahan

      Thinks: If the unvaxxed shopper catches WuFlu from the usher can he/she sue the store?

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        SimonB

        Those are the questions store ownership needs to consider before they acquiesce to persecution of a minority. Whether that minority is a favorite of the left or newly minted by Trudeau. The Premier of Quebec is emboldened by Trudeau’s rhetoric, so they should all be co-defendants in the inevitable lawsuits against the persecution and humiliation of Canadian citizens.
        No money involved, just the dismissal from public office, public apologies and forfeiture of public super and pensions. There’s absolutely no medical or scientific grounds for this discrimination and the public knows it as they see triple vaxxed comorbid patients die.
        The equally absolute stupidity of allowing covid positive vaxxed workers back because of labour shortages while healthy unvaxxed people are persona non grata, is truly one of the most incomprehensible decisions made in the increasingly bizarre pantheon of lunacy by world ‘leaders’!
        Everyday from some leftwing enclave a yet more lunatic control is imposed by an unchecked narcissist viewing the previous idiocy as a precedent.
        More fool the majority, idly sitting by in their ivory cafes thinking their idealistic beachhead is impenetrable. It’ll all wear thin by dose six being ‘only truly vaccinated, that’s why your passport no longer shows!
        Hands up anyone still naive enough to believe this about science!

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    SimonB

    [DUPLICATE]

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    Ian

    Imagine how well this will work if 200 unvaccinated people insist on turning up at the same time.

    Why would there be a problem? The untaxed can wait in a queue until an escort is available.

    As for the WA liquor store edict:

    “that from Monday January 31, liquor store staff across Western Australia will have to check for proof of vaccinations for all customers entering their store”

    That may have a silver liming in that it may make it easier to have at least two alcohol free days per week as doctors are always exhorting us to do.

    .

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      RobB

      But why bother? By now we know that the vaccines cannot stop the transmission and spread of omicron, and that it is a mild disease. Imagine how well things would work if all they silly regulations were just dropped entirely.

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        SimonB

        That would require the regulations to have been about covid, not the Marxist control that the carefully phrased questions that were put to focus groups are then relayed by politico-media ‘advisers’ to the ‘benevolent’ narcissist at the helm!
        February/March 2020, when ‘2 weeks to flatten the curve’ went out the window, was also when the controls true purpose became evident. The buzzwords and rhetoric were ramped up; ‘We’re all in this together’, ‘protect the vulnerable’, ‘Allow time for the heroes in the medical profession to gear up’! All well worn socialist propaganda, which means this is the time to strike with the next phase of the plan. We can force compliance and ramp up fear with isolated cases and computer models of our design.
        If it is about all being in it together why are Socialist and Marxist governments touting the denial of social medical treatment to unvaxxed? Convicted criminals get free medical, yet unvaxxed are lower than that?
        This isn’t going to stop until the people show they will not accept the creation of a persecuted minority in the name of scientific advancement!
        Have we learnt nothing from history?

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      paul courtney

      Mr. Ian sees no problem, just obey and shut up while you wait in his line of the unvaxxed.
      The great problem for the Ians out there is that we also have imaginations, and we can imagine a store with no line at all, where the vaxxed can pass their disease to the vaxxed and unvaxxed alike. I have a dream….

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      SimonB

      Love your silver lining, truly Marxist! You don’t know what’s good for you, so a totally unscientific control on everyone will improve the health of all by proxy. Truth continues to be stranger than fiction with that warped logic!

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      Gary S

      I guess we can add that to all the OTHER things that ‘doctors are always exhorting us to do.’I also guess you don’t see the crisis of confidence the medical swamp is currently undergoing.

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    Raving

    Not sure how to put this. For those sick and tired of being forced to work at home, there is the …

    Workcation

    Eat your heart out

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    Stephen Harper

    Western Australia’s vindictive, mean-spirited and arbitrary rule (that kicks in on January 31) bans the dirty, unwashed non-jabbed from buying products at bottle shops – which means ALL stores which sell alcohol, not just drive-throughs. There can be no scientifically based medical advice which states that it is safe for the unjabbed to walk into a store to buy crockery, clothes or a bottle of orange juice but not a bottle which contains alcohol in a liquor store. It is pure unadulterated spite on the part of the little man who thinks he is The Big Man, Premier Mark McGowan. This bloke has catapulted himself to the top of the Worst Labor Leader hit parade with a bullet, leapfrogging a couple of the most notorious in the class, Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd, which is saying something. All the snarkiness and arbitrariness would end in a heartbeat if the punters out there in voterland, when polled and questioned in focus groups (as Labor do incessantly), gave the feedback that they were not happy campers. If McGowan sensed that his policies were hurting him politically he would turn on a dime. After all, it’s all about him.

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      Tel

      They wanted to totally close bottle shops at the start of this … all part of public health Fascism, because we know what’s good for you.

      There’s certain things where these guys just can’t help themselves.

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      clarence.t

      Local bottle shop put up the “vaccination” sign.

      I now buy all my wine on-line. It cheaper and a better selection, anyway.

      That is a lot of money the local store will not get over time. 😉

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      Philip

      It wont last though. People in NSW are finding now the virus is here they dont fear it anymore and that will tranfer into shops, and that will flow on. The politicians and bureaucrats are in ego mode at the moment and that wears off. Have patience like the Taliban.

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    Richard+Ilfeld

    Two thoughts:
    There is some evidence that federalism is beginning to unwind her in the states. I live in Free Florida, and ore and more the folks coming here in winter (because they want to be warm, I suppose), comment that it is like coming to another country. I went to a Hockey game last night in a full building with 18,500 other unmasked fans. The night before I watched on on TV with Zero Fans. So yeah, there are, once again free states and ????? states. To the degree our differences continue to have us spiral apart, we make have to rethink out confederation, and whether we share enough with our fellow states to have a fully integrated economy. Canada is facing a similar choice, exacerbated by a long running separatist movement in Quebec. Australia? The European experiment.

    If the Covid rules become entrenched as new levels of social control in some places; and are rejected as despotic in others….clearly the vaccine mandates have required the use of coercion; Now, in the US, continued enforcment often means flouting court rules.
    Taxation and coercion without representation is tyranny; the Florida-Texas axis, among others, has found the tools to resist.

    Second, if the pendulum swings, it may may not sufficient to simply throw the rascals out of office. The total of the harm done;
    clildren not educated and with problems, adverse medical outcomes, and in the US; a catalogue of the cost of the trangressions of our border law may require some version of tribunal to establish that extralegal behavior by officials is not OK: a tribunal would be infinitely better than a “do unto them what they did unto you attitude” — that’ a feud and they never end. The issue is we have accepted rule by fiat rather than rule of law….only a legal proceeding can reverse this.

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    Custer Van Cleef

    On Sky News on Thursday:

    (1) Dr Kerry Chant (NSW Health bigwig) reported 29 deaths from COVID (I assume the last 24 hours):

    ... 7 - Unvaccinated (may include a newly vaccinated person because of the "first 21 days, you don't count as vaxxed" scam)
    ... 2 - one dose
    .. 16 - two doses (may include some triple-dosed folk who hadn't passed the "first 14 days don't count" period)
    ... 4 - three doses (may be artificially low because of the above "intention to deceive" fiddle)

    So around 3/4 of COVID deaths were vaccinated. I know more than 3/4 of NSW adults are vaccinated, so they can argue there is some vax efficacy there (provided they haven’t diddled the numbers) but it’s way less than the claimed 95%.
    (Anyway I have a suspicion from my reading of ONS numbers from the UK, that there is Selection Bias influencing these numbers, such that each stage of vaccination leaves behind a cohort of unhealthy members who don’t progress to later stages of “vaccination”.)

    Chant continued with “if you get boosted it reduces your chance of getting infected”.
    Well that’s not what I see in the data posted by OriginalSteve.
    Didn’t the infection rates go from 40 times higher to 200 times higher, in a week, vaxxed compared to unjabbed?
    That’s a Pandemic of the Vaccinated, surely.

    (2) Susan Pearce (NSW Health Deputy Secretary): “People think that if they’ve had COVID recently, particularly the OMICRON variant, that they don’t need the booster… You still need to have that Booster Shot! … we cannot reiterate this strongly enough!”

    I think she’s referring to 2-dose people.
    Is that a tacit admission that the vaccine screws up your chance of getting robust Natural Immunity? That is, the kind of immunity that a never-jabbed person gets after infection (because they develop a variety of antibodies, not just one type targetting the out-of-date spike protein from two years ago.)
    I’d like someone to ask her for the science behind her claims.

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      clarence.t

      Thing with Chant, and basically every “official” Covid bureaucrat…

      Its got to the stage that I don’t believe a single thing they say.

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      OriginalSteve

      Thnak you for the hat tip – this is why I post the facts, for people to read.

      The problem is the media creates what I call the “washing machine effect” – its a constant washing machine-like churn that disorientates people, and so normal people resort to emotive reactions becuase they are subconsciously distressed, due to being perpetually disorientated.

      However, if you can anchor to the facts, you can ignore the 3 ring MSM circus, and start to ask hard questions. This is what they dont want, which is why they say “trust the science” , but the “science? in the MSM is often only half the information, and the rest is sound bites and appeals to authority – in effect a permenant attempt to stop you finding the truth.

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      BruceC

      Same as today – 29th January (reporting for the 28th) – NSW ‘deadliest day’.

      49 deaths

      Eleven of the 49 people who died had received three doses of a COVID-19 vaccine, 24 people had received two doses, two people had received one dose, and 12 people were not vaccinated.

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        Custer Van Cleef

        Yeah just heard about the “record” day myself. The ratio of Vaxxed to Unjabbed is the same.

        It’ll be interesting to see if this week’s higher infection numbers flow into higher rates of hospitalization in 1-2 weeks time (allowing for the lag between infection and serious illness).
        And maybe the ratios between the groups, will change too.

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    My heart fell when I read the details of this cruel and uninformed extension of the vaccination mandate rules in Quebec. I don’t need to once again rake over the statistics and other evidence for is total irrelevance in preventing the spread of the virus. You all understand this and have read it time and time again.

    But what I need to declare, once again, my abhorrence of the lack of compassion and humanity (let again cognitive ability) in those who have decreed, and implemented, this unholy and despicable conduct in the name of “health”.

    May they be judged accordingly, on this Earth, and in any that follows.

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    Chris

    Tucker Carson interviewed a Canadian trucker. The trucker stated that as he was returning from the US he had his phone ready to show his vaccination passport. The Canadian guard stated don’t worry about that, we have been tracking you via your phone for a while before he reached the border control..

    Does this mean if they do away with Covid passports they are still tracking you?

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      OriginalSteve

      Speaking as a technologist, I suspect this is happening one of two ways :

      * If bluetooth is enabled, it may be broadcasting some sort of information to devices within say 30 feet ( unlikely )

      * More likely the app has enabled your phones GPS location services, raided your contacts list and then sent a message without you knowing to a border patrol server somewhere giving your name, location and your status.

      Easiest way to plug that leak is put your phone into flight mode ( or better, turn it off ) and let the border patrol do all the work.

      It also means your phone could be snitching on you on a regular basis on where you are at all times. I mean you can basically work that out via phone tower triangilation, but with 5G it goes down to an accuracy of about a metre.

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      MP

      Google and apple installed tracking in their software, you had no say in the matter.
      My Android had it installed but it says its off, the wife’s showed it as on.

      Leave your phone at home or take it with you, complying has always been a choice.

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      Philip

      If you’re going to commit a crime, do NOT take your phone. Turning it off is not good enough.

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    steve

    Ah, Western Australia, the Tasmania of the 21st century…

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    David Maddison

    Don’t forget that Australia also has major human rights violations such as the inability to work if you are not vaccinated and in Vicdanistan, apart from other restrictions, the unvaxxed are not allowed to get haircuts or visit beauty salons. Those last two restrictions are especially discrinatory against women. If it wasn’t for the fact that Dictator Daniel Andrews was a Chicomm-loving socialist, he’d be called a misogynist.

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    Philip

    It amazes me how many people support compulsory forced vaccination for this virus (mandates is the polite way to put it). I listen to talk back radio to feel these things and Id say about 80% fully support it. A good reminder freedom only hangs by a thread and is in no way the norm.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Partial quote from Giorgio Agamben speaking at the second meeting organized by Future Generations and Ugo Mattei in Turin — December 8, 2021:
    “What we have before us, is an adversary, an uncivilization at its end, and this seems to be confirmed by the extreme measures this adversary has chosen. How could a government choose such infamous, extreme, destructive measures as this government has done. However, the fact that we are facing an opponent who is intellectually, spiritually — I want to quote Mattei — spiritually dead, does not necessarily make things easier. Mind you, fighting against a dead opponent is more difficult than fighting against an opponent who is alive, spiritually alive, to whom one can counter arguments and discussions, reasons. With a spiritually dead opponent you cannot use arguments, you cannot try to convince him, it is not possible. Therefore, I believe, we have to invent new strategies ….”
    The trucker anti vaxx mandates convoy heading to Canada’s capitol, Ottawa is a good example of a new strategy.
    Back home in Oz it seems we’re also dealing with spiritually dead government leaders and spiritually dead health bureuacrats. What do we want? Truth or Covid? If the former, then we certainly need some new strategies.

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    Bill+In+Oz

    Et finalement il y a le government des drongos de Quebec en Canada !

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    Ted1

    Current or non current. The power went out with a lightning strike, just went off.

    It used to attempt to reconnect after a lightning strike.

    Has accommodating wind and solar made our network more prone to lightning?

    No tennis!

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    another ian

    from “The War of the Running Dogs” by Noel Barber on the Malaysian Emergency

    “The Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people” John Adams, USA, 1818.”

    And

    “The answer isw not tp pour more troops into the jungle, but in the hearts and minds of the people”. General Templer. Malaya, 1952″.

    Sounds like thyey’re hell bent on not doing that

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    PJB

    Here in Quebec, I can no longer participate in my winter activities (curling, bowling), I cannot shop for alcoholic beverages in the provincial liquor store and can no longer enter large retail outlets. I may soon be required to pay a penalty for remaining untainted.
    THIS IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR MY GOOD HEALTH. At 67, with no co-morbidities, I likely had the C-19 almost 2 years ago (as a head cold with a persistant dry cough) and have not had any other instance of illness since then. I fear for all of the younger generations that will likely bear the brunt of the consequences of this idiocy.

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    Nabrid Obcsjce

    Canadian Constitutional Crisis | Brian Peckford | The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast S4: E78

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    bobby b

    If you were familiar with the Canadian healthcare system, you’d understand their near-monolithic terror of Covid.

    If you get sick in Canada, you go on a waiting list, and then you die, unless you’re well-connected, or rich.

    If you’re rich, you run down to my U.S. state – Minnesota – and check in to the Mayo Clinic (a huge, highly-regarded healthcare org/hospital complex).

    The Mayo loves them because they pay cash.

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