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    OldOzzie

    COVID-19, lies and statistics: Corruption and the pandemic

    and

    Chutzpah: Tedros scolds world for not listening to WHO on COVID-19

    But our Australian Health Department

    Reply from Federal Government

    Dear Sir,

    I refer to your correspondence of September 2021 to the Prime Minister, the Hon Scott Morrison MP, concerning Australia’s COVID-19 vaccination program. Your letter has been referred to the Minister for Health and Aged Care, the Hon Greg Hunt MP, and the Minister has asked me to reply on his behalf.

    There has been heightened interest in the potential role of ivermectin in prevention and treatment of COVID-19. Ivermectin is used to treat human and animal diseases caused by parasites but has not been proven to treat COVID-19 in humans and is not approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) for this purpose.

    There are a number of clinical trials being conducted around the world investigating the potential role of ivermectin, either alone or in combination with other medications, to prevent or treat COVID-19. To date, there is a lack of high-quality evidence with sufficient certainty to support the safe and efficacious use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

    The National COVID-19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce brings together the peak health professional bodies across Australia whose members are providing clinical care to people with COVID-19. The Taskforce undertakes continuous evidence surveillance to identify and rapidly synthesise emerging research to provide national, evidence-based guidelines for the clinical care of people with COVID-19.

    The Taskforce’s current advice on ivermectin is “Not recommended; Do not use ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 outside of randomised trials with appropriate ethical approval.” The certainty of evidence to support the use of ivermectin in relation to all-cause mortality, invasive mechanical ventilation, ICU admission, adverse events (including serious adverse events) and clinical improvement is low, due to risk of bias and imprecision in the clinical trials.

    Evidence to support viral clearance, time to clinical recovery and duration of hospital stay is also very limited. This is a result of study sample sizes being small and in select populations, a lack of peer-reviewed data, and insufficient evidence to support claims, including studies that have drawn incorrect conclusions, or have incorrectly extrapolated information based on laboratory studies. This means that the standard of evidence for the use of ivermectin as a therapeutic for COVID-19 is insufficient.

    Research evidence comparing ivermectin to standard care, as published by the Taskforce, has shown some effectiveness against COVID-19 disease. However, problems with the clinical data mean there remains significant uncertainty over whether ivermectin is more effective and safer than standard care in treating patients with COVID-19. For there to be certainty in the evidence from clinical trial data, trials need to be conducted with large numbers of participants across different demographics, with varying comorbidities. The trials should be randomised, and papers should be peer reviewed before final publication. This ensures that the treatment will work for the intended audience and will lead to better outcomes than standard care.

    Ivermectin has common side effects and associated harms, including diarrhoea, nausea and dizziness. For any therapeutic to be considered for use in clinical practice, the benefits must out way the negative side effects in the intended audience. The recommendations and their rationale are available at: http://www.covid19evidence.net.au.

    On 31 March 2021, the World Health Organization (WHO) advised that the current evidence on the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 patients is inconclusive, and until more data is available, the WHO recommends that the drug only be used within clinical trials. This advice is also consistent with that of the European Medicines Agency and the United States Food & Drug Administration.

    The Taskforce continues to monitor evidence and consider the effectiveness of therapeutics for both the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 infection, including for ivermectin. If ivermectin was found to be a safe and effective treatment for COVID-19, the relevant guidelines will be updated accordingly.

    It is important for Australians to have access to credible and timely information about COVID-19 vaccines. It is a large and complex project, and the information you are seeking may change over time—that is why we strongly encourage you to stay up-to-date on all news and announcements, by regularly checking the Department of Health’s website at: http://www.health.gov.au.

    If you need to speak with someone, the National Coronavirus Helpline is available on 1800 020 080. It operates 24- hours-a-day, seven-days-a-week.

    Thank you for writing on this matter.

    Yours sincerely

    Director
    Australian Government Department of Health

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      Rowjay

      I have had a look at the drug treatment options for hospitalised Covid patients in NSW. The list is as follows:
      Remdesivir
      Tocilizumab
      Baricitinib
      Sotrovimab

      Much has been written about Remdesivir, but can someone out there explain in layperson’s terms how the other drugs in the list work on Covid?
      Thanks

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      Grogery

      Ivermectin has common side effects and associated harms, including diarrhoea, nausea and dizziness.

      However, according to the TGA, the covid jab is apparently fine with known side effects such as: blood clots, stroke, seizures, Myocarditus, autoimmune disease, and a small side effect known as death (just to name a few).

      Our so-called leaders have lost the plot.

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        ColA

        After 40 years, the IVM side affects are well known, minor and not statistically significant @ 3,4 BILLION doses and counting!!

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        Curious George

        “To date, there is a lack of high-quality evidence with sufficient certainty to support the safe and efficacious use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.”

        Don’t expect my Depart of Health to support any such research, or even – God forbid – to do it ourselves. Our only duty is paper shuffling.

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        Lance

        Supporting data: Normal human dosage is 0.2 mg/kg body weight. Giving a relative comparison:

        LD50 data is lethal toxicity for 50% of tests. Most are 75 times or more of the normal dosage for a human. Human data is extrapolated from animal data with large safety factors. Dog LD50 is some 400 times max dose for humans, Mouse LD50 is some 125 times max human dosage, Rat is 250 times, and monkey is 120 times normal dosage.

        LD50 data: Oral >15 mg/kg (adult human) LD50 ~80 mg/kg (dog) 25 mg/kg (mouse) 50 mg/kg (rat) >24 mg/kg (Rhesus monkey)
        http://datasheets.scbt.com/sc-359308.pdf

        Dr. Robert Malone, I used it myself: “In order for a 170 pound man to receive an LD50 dose of ivermectin (that is, the dose which is estimated to kill 50% of those who receive said dose of a substance), he would have to ingest 10 full tubes of Durvet Ivermectin Paste 1.87% for horses, in one sitting.”

        https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/dr-robert-malone-ivermectin-works-i-used-it-myself/

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      ColA

      OldOzzie what really makes me sick to my stomach is the utter gaul of these bast*rds to say there is insufficient evidence – are they willfully negligent, criminally delinquent or bribed/blackmailed (I suspect a bit of all three!) when they say there is insufficient data.
      https://ivmmeta.com/

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        ColA

        Oops posted instead of previewed!
        and https://c19early.com/ but they are such a bunch of hypocrites
        Let’s look at the new drug Sotrovimab made by GlaxoSmithKline, it has had 1 trail, yes ONE TRIAL done by guess who? Yep GlaxoSmithKline 583 patients, 291 got the goop, 292 missed out, 66% improvement gee 2 points better than HCQ meta analysis from 32 early trials with 55,000 patients and a dollar a day keeps the Covid away just as well!!
        Not quite as good as IVM, 28 early trials 68% improvement, 5,000+ patients another $1 a day wonder!!
        Glaxos’ trail was NOT peer-reviewed but approved by TGA on the preprint information!! US$2100 per injection https://c19sv.com/

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        Simon

        See if you can work out who has created these almost scientifically plausible web sites and then ask yourself what their motivations are.

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          clarence.t

          “The IPO of Doximity, often described as a “LinkedIn For Doctors,” minted a new healthcare billionaire as the stock price doubled in its public debut. Doximity cofounder and CEO Jeff Tangney’s 32.9% stake was worth $2.8 billion at yesterday’s market close. The San Francisco, California-based company doesn’t charge medical professionals to use its platform. The majority of its revenue comes from pharmaceutical company and health system customers who want to target marketing campaigns to this specialized group.”

          I’ll repeat the first part of that bold quote…

          “The majority of its revenue comes from pharmaceutical company “

          oops !!

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          MP

          What’s the Simone, facts got your tongue.

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      How is it that Ivermectin has to meet all of these stringent conditions when the mRNA gene therapy was approved by the Therapeutics Goods Administration with no such requirements?
      Herewith some results from using the fake COvid19 vaccine:
      1. During the first six months of 2021, the Office for National Statistics revealed that 30,305 people died within twenty-one days of having the Covid-19 fake vaccine in England,

      2. Between December 8th 2020 and June 11th 2021, Public Health Scotland reported that 5,522 Scots had died within 28 days of having the Covid-19 fake vaccine,

      3. Through to September 11, 2021, the 27 nations comprising the European Union reported via the EudraVigilance database, that there had been 24,526 fatalities and 2,317, 495 injuries following Covid-19 injections,

      4. A major promoter of the Covid-19 fake vaccine, Dr. Anthony Fauci of the US National Institutes of Health, is reported as boasting on February 15, 2021 to a group of about 9 NIH laboratory workers that he has not taken and will not take the Covid jab.

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      Peter+C

      Reply from Federal Government

      Thanks OldOzzie,

      The reply is surprisingly comprehensive. It is in fact quite revealing.

      Firstly they have to ignore a lot of new information which has come to light and has been presented here by Jo. The errors by omission are quite obvious and startling.

      The director quotes the WHO from 31 March 2021, which is a long time ago now. He advises the need for clinical trials but there is has been no attempt to start one yet. I would say that the time for clinical trials has passed, since it would any trial which included a non treatment control arm now would be ethically indefensible.

      Please keep the letter and share it with Jo,

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      People don’t need drugs any more than they need vaccines (which are unending, not to mention harmful to many).

      As I have said many times, Echinacea with Goldenseal, taken in large continuing doses at the first sign of sickness in the body, is enough to stop the covid virus, and any flu virus, in days, without ever getting seriously sick. you just have to take the herbs as your body needs them, to stop the advance of the sickness and defeat it. Two 450 mg capsules every 20 minutes, for as long as it takes until the viral infection gives up. The next time you feel yourself “coming down with a cold”, just commit to taking such a continuing dose, and within hours you will find you are not “coming down” further.

      I got the covid virus twice, in early 2020, the first time it hung on for a week, the second time for just 2 days. Of course I went through a 75-capsule bottle of echinacea with goldenseal every 24 hours, at the rate of 2 every 20 minutes (that’s 72 in 24 hours), but the beauty of herbs is there are no ill effects and they are perfectly harmless. Basically, your body tells you how much to take — whenever the cold or flu symptoms make you feel worse, just take another dose.

      I write to inform people that drugs are not the way to beat viral infections, any more than are vaccines. Herbs are, to put it in a nutshell, cleansing foods for the body. I am pretty sure, after 25 years of experience with both sickness and echinacea, that these particular herbs, no doubt among others, were designed to heal these common infections, quickly and easily. And the quickness with which covid19 infects the body, in the digestive tract, is its main threat; I expect that is its man-made threat, deliberately made to get in and do bad quickly, otherwise it is weak, in the first week or so.

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        sophocles

        Harry:
        this blog is based in Australia. Echinacea and Goldenseal are both native to North America, which, unless they can swim to the southern Pacific on the other side of the globe, makes your well-meaning advice useful mainly to only North Americans.

        Vitamin D 3 is not a cure for covid but can enhance our immune systems to make it unlikely to contract it or to ease us through an infection. It is a natural product of our bodies — just add mid-day sunshine to as much bare skin as you can decently expose on sunny days. Covid attacks through the lungs which have large quantities of Vit-D receptors. Jo has written about this several times. (Note: vitamin D is not a vitamin but an important hormone.). If you maintain your vit-D blood levels about 50ng/mil or better, you won’t catch colds or flu’s to need to consume echinacea and goldenrod to get better.
        With all due respect, many more people have access to that than have access to North American flora.
        cf: https://vitamindwiki.com

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    OldOzzie

    Nurses, teachers vow to join anti-vaccine protesters on Melbourne streets

    Protesters have been urged to “look sophisticated” at today’s demonstrations, with nurses and teachers claiming they will join construction workers on the streets. Vaccination centres are on high alert after being named as a target for the anti-vax mob.

    Members of the Melbourne Freedom Rally Telegram group — including people claiming to be tradies, nurses and teachers — vowed to wreak more havoc on the streets of Melbourne CBD.

    “So they can see how many different industries are standing up,” one group member wrote on the encrypted messaging app.

    “Some of the nurses are going to turn up in scrubs,” another said.

    One user wrote that high vis had been “vilified”.

    “Everyone start turning up in suits, shirts/ties, dress shoes. Look smart, look sophisticated,” they said.

    One user wrote: “What if at 10am nurses start at the ANMF in Melb, tradies at CMFEU, teachers at the Uni of Melb education building. Then join together in the middle of the cbd at 12. Show the unity of all Victorians.”

    Another wrote: “My wifes a teacher, she’s devastated, most teachers in her school have been double jabbed. I think the unvaxxed are a minority in that industry.”

    It comes the day after authorities announced mandatory vacciantions for teachers and early-childhood educators.

    It is not yet known whether Melbourne Freedom Rally demonstrators plan to return to the Shrine of Remembrance but have again marked their starting point as CFMEU headquarters, where the protests first exploded on Monday.

    n response to police’s request that media aerial footage be delayed by one hour, one member suggested they find “someone with a drone with a streamable camera”.

    “We need our own aerial intel and recon,” they said.

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      M Allinson

      How long before the army is called in to put a stop to these highly disruptive demonstrations by “misinformed anti-vaxxers”?

      We can’t have these “thugs” like nurses and teachers threatening the roll-out.

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        OriginalSteve

        It could be the day the population turns on the army…..that would be grim.

        Good thing ( sarc ) that they passed laws allowing foreign troops in for “peacekeeping”.

        FYI – Stalin learnt that local troops wont shoot the locals, but foreign troops have no such problem.

        Its coming….the N W O is stressing the population to see how much they can take.

        “Countless people will hate the New World Order and will die protesting against it.”
        —H.G. Wells, The New World Order (1939)

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        No need for the Army….that would require agreement with Federal authorities.
        Dan has recruited and armed his own personal force to deal with any resistance

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            Richard+Jenkins

            Dan claims he is guided by he science.
            Tradesmen object to dictatorial mandates and are punished with a 14 day lockdown.
            Revenge is not science.
            When that became obvious the yesmen came out and said construction sites were spreaders and that is untrue.
            To invent figures they, for example, used a site in Box Hill that was badly managed. Tradies on the ground floor tested negative. 20 positive tests came from tradies sharing lifts.
            20 grew to 116 for the site. That number is impossible and must include victims whose contacts could be traced back to at least include a tradesman from the site.
            Who was covid positive No 1 on the Box Hill site?

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            MP

            The hunch back of Notre Dan.
            Stairman Dan

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            TedM

            Perish the thought.

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          Dennis

          As we all realise Victoria has treated citizens harshly and is now the worst state to live in, thousands are leaving and reports are that many more are planning to leave when they can finalise arrangements.

          State Emergency Powers are approved by State Parliaments and in Victoria the State Government effectively controls the Parliament lower and upper houses.

          The Federal Government has no say in this, no control over it whatsoever, and the border closures are another example of state constitutional law powers, upheld by a Western Australian court of law and the High Court rejected an appeal against that decision.

          I never expected to experience or observe any State Government behaving so badly and having effectively absolute power and supported by left leaning media to filter the news cycle to favour VicGov.

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            Robber

            There are three cross benchers in the upper house of the Victorian parliament who voted with the government mid year to extend the State of Emergency by six months.
            It is due to expire in December, unless another extension is approved.
            The three cross benchers who rolled over with Dan are Fiona Patten (Reason Party), Stuart Grimley (Justice Party) and Samantha Ratnam (Greens).

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            OldOzzie

            Victorians stranded in NSW can return home if they are double vaccinated from September 30. Daniel Andrews made the announcement as his state recorded 766 new local Covid-19 cases, its highest ever daily total, surpassing the 2020 peak. NSW added 1063 new cases and six deaths. TV networks are challenging a ban on media livestreaming aerial footage of the Melbourne protests.

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            Hanrahan

            thousands are leaving and reports are that many more are planning to leave when they can finalise arrangements.

            I have only lived a few years on the fringes of the big cities and have never understood their attraction.

            Sure there are broader employment opportunities but it takes a lot more after tax $s to live there. I remember walking around central Sydney looking at all the imported car dealerships and thought to myself: “Who fixes them?” Some poor schmuck commuting from the west probably. Another time I was doing a course at Remington in the city and a young lad from Para was doing it too but he worked there. The daily commute was the highlight of his day. He obviously met up a bunch of other singles, but that would lose it’s appeal once older.

            Meanwhile I live in the tropics. This winter I switched on my rev. cycle aircon for two mornings, just too lazy to find a doona. We don’t run the aircons much in summer either. I haven’t owned a suit for 50 years so no drycleaning and only some of those in the northern beaches have a real commute so you save a heap on cars.

            What I’m saying is that many leaving the cities now will never go back when they discover my secret.

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              Tilba+Tilba

              What I’m saying is that many leaving the cities now will never go back when they discover my secret.

              I agree fully. I’ve spent most of my working life in reasonably small places – I left Sydney in 1980 and have never had a desire to live there again.

              Even the bigger cities I’ve had stints in were not that big – Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane. But I much preferred Darwin, Alice, Canberra, Cairns (Yorkeys Knob), Gold Coast, Newcastle, and a few others.

              MsT has about ten nieces and nephews hereabouts in Melbourne (which BTW is a perfectly pleasant place to be retired in, with no commute).

              I have suggested to them – before you “settle down” and get strapped with a big mortgage and a long commute – go see Australia. Have a stint in Darwin or Cairns or Townsville or Alice or Karratha … anywhere. It could change your life.

              But nope – they are all bogged down here with huge debt and lots of driving.

              I’d live in non-Brisbane Queensland tomorrow if I could talk MsT into it!

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                Peter C

                for once i agree TT

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                Hanrahan

                TT you have spent time in the tropics and we prolly agree that it would be a big step for southerners to come this far north but I have great admiration for the Italians who came here after the war. They came from a temperate Mediterranean climate to the tropical cane fields and cut cane by hand.

                Hand cutting cane was hot, dirty [they burnt the cane before cutting] and as back breaking as shearing but then they had to load their wagons, that was physically tough. Pooling their funds they bought the farms, the farm owners financed their neighbour’s sons and eventually whole districts were “Little Italys”. Ingham, a classic little town more so than any.

                I spent a year at Fairymead Plantation, Bundaberg, at the end of the hand cutting era working beside the plantation’s developing mechanical cutting and loading program. Fairymead was at the cutting edge so it was no accident that Bundaberg was the birth place of the harvester.

                These men proved that we can not only survive the heat but thrive.

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          Just+Thinkin'

          “No need for the Army….that would require agreement with Federal authorities.”

          The federal authorities would have NO problem. They are part of the DEEP STATE.

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        dinn, rob

        1-6-2017 Governments are “full of incompetent people,” Assange told Hannity. “And the more secretive the area is, the more incompetent it becomes because there’s no proper oversight.”
        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wikileaks-assange-governments-hate-transparency-they-loathe-it

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        yarpos

        These days the thugs seem to be in the black shirts

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      Richard+Jenkins

      Melbourne protestors are fighting for freedom and against dictatorship. The very thing our forces fought and died for. The most appropriate place is at the shrine.
      The protestors did not damage anything but leaving rubbish is disappointing but easily cleaned up.
      There is no better place to stand for freedom.
      Those who died would be shamed by the comments being made supposedly on their behalf.
      The freedom they fought for is being acknowledged. Soldiers, sailors, airmen and service people died to prevent regimes like Daniel Andrews.

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        Richard+Jenkins

        Why comments made by RSL should represent the lives of dead soldiers!

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        Gary Simpson

        Those who are commemorated by the shrine and died under fire from soldiers acting on orders from foreign governments, would be horrified to now see their descendants under fire from police acting on orders from their own government.

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        yarpos

        The real disrespect came from Andrews last ANZAC day limiting the crowd to 1500 and fencing it off , while allowing an AFL game with 10s of thousands the same day. A Grade Hypocrite.

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        Vicki

        Yes – I thought the same. The Shrine represents the sacrifices made for freedom.

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        “The protestors did not damage anything but leaving rubbish is disappointing but easily cleaned up.”

        Richard + Jenkins

        l watched the live feed from Rukshan and a couple others there and l could see many people going around keeping the crowd in line and picking up the rubbish, l could see 4 large rubbish bags of drink bottles ect.. left at one spot after they left, like really they could not take it with them when they left while dodging bullets could they? watch from 1:22:52 in link below
        what l could see from the footage the protesters were respectful but the MSM had to have a story so thats what they came up with as well as the protesters were an angry mob who were violent,
        that must have been the part l missed LOL

        one thing l did see that nobody has reported is when a protester gave a Soggy a bottle of drink and the soggy after taking the drink gave him a knuckle bump, link below @ 1:17:10

        anyway it is in the link below if you want to see all for yourself
        https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=1064408730763240&ref=watch_permalink

        also there has been some people who have shown disgust at the protesters going to the shrine,
        one MSM celebrity l heard saying that the servicemen and women gave up so much so that the protesters could protest

        but think about it, its illegal to protest

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    another ian

    “One of the things about Geert Vanden Bossche is that, unlike the bureaucratic “experts” running the show, his predictions have been quite accurate.

    At the end of this piece he talks about early treatment. There’s a lot of good studies on a lot of products that are being ignored. ”

    Links at

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/09/22/the-unvaccinated-2/

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      another ian

      In comments there

      “I think that those who don’t have sunscreen, we need to insist put on sunscreen, to protect those that have sunscreen!

      https://youtu.be/fe_QVzx2zaI

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        very funny LOL
        and also from the comments

        “There’s a new bar in town, our only bar.

        I don’t know what the chicks are like but I’m going to need you all to wear condoms with me, Friday night, in case I get lucky.

        Reply

        You’re onto something there.

        Maybe better phrasing would be to ask those who insist others be vaccinated is this: “Will your girlfriend get pregnant if I don’t wear a condom?”

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      OldOzzie

      Interesting Graph referred to https://c19early.com/

      Quercetin 76% 4 studies, Ivermectin 67% 64 studies

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        Ian

        “Quercetin 76% 4 studies, Ivermectin 67% 64 studies”

        Yeah but it is considered many of the Ivermectin studies have inadequacies and thus the results are thought questionable.

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            The one in India on 240 million people 99.99 percent effective because it broke the RO

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            R.B.

            Yet these sneaky drugs, including those that sound promising for COVID-19, can end up in peer-reviewed publications.

            You can’t tell the difference between propaganda and science.

            Testing has gone well beyond the test tube, despite efforts to stop this even though very safe to even use as a placebo. It’s bonkers even if barely effective in the real world, yet it looks worth while to many governments listening to their experts.

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          TedM

          Yes they were done without zinc. With zinc much closer to 100%

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        Vicki

        Boy, has it been hard to get Quercetrin! But, finally, with some help from a friend I have a good supply in case I need it.

        Meantime, I take my regular Vit C with other flavonoids. And, of course, Vit D and Zinc.

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      Lydia

      Also check out Sucharit Bhakdi 5 months ago telling us all that boosters would be needed again and again..until death was achieved…’after the second shot be sure to have a will”

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      Flok

      All natural sweet wormwood plant

      The researchers soaked dried leaves of A. annua, obtained from four continents in hot water and tested the solutions against SARS-CoV-2 and two variants originating from the United Kingdom and South Africa. Some leaf samples were 12 years old but still potent against the virus. Researchers also tested artemisinin alone against the viruses, but the plant extracts were more potent. Artemisinin is a compound naturally produced by the plant, but is usually extracted, chemically modified, and developed in combination with other drugs to treat malaria.

      Results showed that the extracts of A. annua did not block the virus from entering cells but interfered with the virus’ ability to replicate, thus killing it. In addition, the anti-replication activity did not appear linked to artemisinin or flavonoids, which are natural substances in the plants.

      https://www.wpi.edu/news/early-research-finds-extracts-sweet-wormwood-plant-can-inhibit-covid-19-virus

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    Graham Richards

    I bet that India, Mexico & several other countries are very happy they don’t have a deaf, dumb & blind TGA to contend with nor a health administration with less imagination & innovation than a brick! Thinking outside the squares is not permitted. Action outside the big Pharma companies financial interests is heresy!!!

    There again how long did it take for similar scientific world to acknowledge Albert Einstein????

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      StephenP

      How long did it take before helicobacter was acknowledged as a cause of stomach ulcers.
      IIRC it was an Australian doctor using himself as a guinea pig who established the proof.

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      Doc

      I doubt it’s about the TGA being blockheads. I would suggest there is something in the contracting to get the companies to develop the vaccines at great initial cost in the face of therapeutics that were at least reputed to be effective against COVID-19. One would imagine that as the vaccines lose potency in protecting against new mutants, therapeutics will suddenly resume their position and possibly become the primary defence against the virus.

      The TGA experts aren’t dickheads and IMO there is a real official block in place against finding them (therapeutics) acceptable. Those trials taking place as stated in the government letter to OldOzzie must have every ‘i’ dotted and every ‘t’ crossed because, at the end of the day, there must be no chance of permitting any further official block to stand in their way. If proven effective, therapeutics will be the key to the health, economic and education problems of the world, not just for Australia especially as the reliance on the vaccines appears to be getting more shaky as the virus mutates.

      Maybe the answer will be a combination of vaccine and therapy. To clean up the current mess over playing with mRNA and foetal tissues and getting maximum protection, we need new vaccines if possible not based on those elements which are presenting philosophical barriers for some people. These in turn are giving business and government the ability to play with our freedoms and movements.

      It’s not just the antivaxers that have problems; there is the matter of those that have had COVID19 infection, that have the stronger immunity to the disease but never-the-less are expected to complete a vaccine course. Perhaps somebody can give me the logic for that demand which must be obeyed before they can get the vaccine pass card! The only logic I can see is that eventually the immunity fades with viral mutations, but surely there must be a right to prove that that has occured. Then there are those that don’t want to be forced to have a vaccine that enrols the basic biochemical control mechanisms of the body to get involved in the process.

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    Chris

    Ozzie, You must feel like you’re banging your head against a brick wall.

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      OldOzzie

      Chris – Yes but I will keep trying last message sent to PM

      When Melbourne Tradies can see a Solution to Covid staring Australia in the face – how incompetent does that show Australia’s CHOs to be.

      Again what are the Vitamin D Levels of Covid Hospitalisations in NSW.

      And if Tradies understand there are alternatives to Vaccines – “I think this is the first time I have seen the bleeding obvious prophylactic to Covid – in addition to the “mass distribution of ivermectin, vitamins C, D and zinc.” mentioned in a Major Australian Newspaper – in this case the Herald Sun”

      – why can’t DR Kerry Chant advise why they are not being used in NSW Hospitals as a treatment approach – current treatment is basically Zero

      Professor Borody Talks about Early Treatment of COVID-19 – Part 1 – September 2020

      https://www.palmerfoundation.com.au/professor-borody-talks-about-early-treatment-of-covid-19-part-1-september-2020/

      UK and Ameican experience with Covid showed that BAME People were more suspectible to Covid as has been seen in the Covid Outbreaks in South West Sydney and West Sydney

      Question to NSW CHO Dr Kerry Chant – “What are the Vitamin D levels of Patients admitted to Hospital with Covid in NSW?”

      India and Africa have shown that ivermectin works against Covid – ivermectin has been safely and succesfully used to treat parasitic diseases earning the Japanese Discoverer the Nobel Prize – it is safe for use with Humans – they even use it on multi-million dollar racehorses, who are obviously more valuable than Humans.

      Bluntly Professor John Skerritt Head of TGA, should be taken to the The International Court of Justice, which has its seat in The Hague, is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations, for Crimes against Australians for banning Doctors from prescribing ivermectin for their patients for Covid

      Again to repeat – “When Melbourne Tradies can see a Solution to Covid staring Australia in the face – how incompetent does that show Australia’s CHOs to be. – “mass distribution of ivermectin, vitamins C, D and zinc.”

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        M Allinson

        ” … how incompetent …”

        It might have all the hallmarks of incompetence, but I’m afraid it’s ideology running the show.

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          David+Wojick

          Being blinded by ideology is a particularly nasty type of incompetence. The kind that kills.

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            ColA

            There’s always more options Greg = willfully negligent, criminally delinquent or bribed/blackmailed (I suspect a bit of the first three with a heavy dose of four!)
            Why do you think Gates said that investing in medicine was his best decision ever!?

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          max

          “ideology” — democratic ideology in this case

          Liberty or Equality by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

          Thus any liberal accepting Plato’s evaluation of democracy would reject this form of government because, according to this philosopher, it is fatally doomed to develop into tyranny.

          The respect of minorities, moreover, the freedom of speech, the limitations imposed upon the rule of majorities have nothing to do with democracy as such.

          A democracy can be highly illiberal: the Volstead Act, quite democratically voted for, interfered with the dinner menus of millions of citizens.

          If we accept St. Thomas’ definition of democracy we will find that the “dictatorship of the proletariat” (provided the proletariat forms a majority) is more democratic than the American Constitution.

          Fifty-one per cent of a nation can establish a totalitarian regime, suppress minorities and still remain democratic;

          There is little doubt that the American Congress or the French Chambers have a power over their nations which would rouse the envy of a Louis XIV or a George III, were they alive today. Not only prohibition, but also the income tax declaration, selective service, obligatory schooling, the finger-printing of blameless citizens, premarital blood tests—none of these totalitarian measures would even the royal absolutism of the seventeenth century have dared to introduce.

          It should be self-evident that the principle of majority rule is a decisive step in the direction of totalitarianism. By the sheer weight of numbers and by its ubiquity the rule of 99 per cent is more ” hermetic ” and more oppressive than the rule of 1 per cent.

          Democracy is rule not “of the people,” but of a majority over a minority, earning Voltaire’s comment that he preferred to live under the paw of a lion rather than under the teeth of a thousand rats. Democracy has not the slightest rational or scientific foundation, which is why the late Crane Brinton argued that it could only become in the long run a purely fideistic secular religion.

          Jacob Burckhardt:
          “But I know only too well the modern state, whose irresponsible omnipotence is going to manifest itself in a very crude and practical manner. It will simply take the approximate majority of the popular mind as a measuring-rod and regulate the rest according to it in a strictly disciplinary way.”

          “Democracy, indeed, has no enthusiasm for the exceptional, and where she cannot deny or remove it, she hates it from the bottom of her heart. Herself a monstrous product of mediocre brains and their envy, democracy can use as tools only mediocre men,”

          totalitarianism and tyranny has its roots in the democratic (plebiscitarian, majoritarian, egalitarian), and not in the liberal-libertarian, principle.

          Macaulay, who wrote:
          I have long been convinced that institutions purely democratic must, sooner or later, destroy liberty, or civilization, or both.

          democracy cannot relinquish its egalitarian heritage, the jealousy, envy and insecurity of the voting masses tend to give new impetus to the egalitarian mania as well as to ever increasing demands for ” social security ” and other forms of” economic democracy.” These cravings and desires result in specific measures, and thus we see finally a bureaucratic totalitarianism restricting personal liberties.

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            Old Goat

            Max,
            As Winston Churchill once said : Democracy isn’t perfect , but it’s better that the alternatives. Democracy is suffering a plague of lies , misinformation and corruption from the media and big tech . We “the people ” have been manipulated and coerced by hidden forces for some time now and our educators are part of it . We have the best standard of living in the history of humans , but are currently being herded toward towards a cliff that will probably destroy that. Critical thinking is the only way out and it’s in short supply.Socialism and facism – thats tyranny…

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              max

              Thanks for replay, I am not big fan of Winston Churchill.

              Chris Leithner “THE BOURGEOIS MANIFESTO” CHAPTER 11:
              Churchill devoted his life to three causes: preserving the Empire, keeping socialism at bay at home and preventing Eu- rope’s domination by any foreign power. By 1955, all three were but memories. Not merely because he achieved exactly the opposite of what he intended, but mostly because his ac- tions triggered the deaths of scores of millions, it’s reasonable to regard Churchill’s career as a major catastrophe of global magnitude. He acknowledged that he strove in vain. He re- flected not long before he died: “I have achieved so much, to have achieved nothing in the end.”

              Leftism From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

              It is precisely the unwarranted identification of democracy with liberty which has caused a great many of the recurrent tragedies…
              …equality on one side and freedom on the other are mutually hostile. Since equality is the dynamic element in democracy, while liberty lies at the base of true liberalism, these two political concepts do not really mix.
              Freedom, however, has nothing to do with democracy as such-nor has the republic. The repression of 49 percent by 51 percent or of 1 percent by 99 percent is most regrettable, but it is not “undemocratic.”
              Thus we see in the democratic order that the phrase “rule of the people” is misleading. The majority rules over the minority, which reminds one of George Orwell’s famous phrase from Animal Farm: ,’All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.” This notion of one part lording it over another displeases the “democratist,” i.e., the supporter of democrat ism which is democracy erected into an ideology.

              In an existential sense democracy is not self-government at all, and self-government (unless we stand for unanimity in a democratic procedure) is and remains an illusion. Herman Melville expressed this view when he said, “Better to be secure under one king, than exposed to violence from twenty millions of monarchs, though oneself be one of them.”
              There are certain totalitarian and monolithic tendencies inherent in democracy that are not even present in the “absolute” monarchy, and even less so in mixed government which, without exaggeration, can be called the great Western political tradition.

              …democracy and totalitarianism are not mutually exclusive terms. Professor J. L. Talmon has rightly entitled one of his books (on the French Revolution) The Origins of
              Totalitarian Democracy, and it is no accident that the isms which menaced liberty from the eighteenth century to our days called themselves “democratic.”

              De Tocqueville saw only too clearly that while democracy could founder into chaos, the greater danger was its gradual evolution into oppressive totalitarianism, a type of tyranny the world had never seen before and for which it was partly conditioned by modern administrative methods and technological inventions.
              In the final prophecy of Alexis de Tocqueville in Democracy in America the possibility, nay, the probability of the democratic state’s totalitarian evolution toward the Provident State has been foretold with great accuracy. Here again two wishes of the leftist find their fulfillment, the extension of government and the dependence of the person upon the state which controls his destiny from the cradle to the grave. Every movement of the citizen, his birth and his death, his marriage and his income, his illness and his education, his military training and his transportation, his real estate and his travels abroad-everything is to be a matter of knowledge to the state.
              One could continue this list ad nauseam.

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                Lucky

                You may say that Churchill achieved nothing but the fact is that he stood and struggled against na.ism and com.nism.
                Both now gone, perhaps re-surging in Victoria, our problem not Churchill’s.

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      RickWill

      Is there any point in someone not living in WA signing the petition?

      My view is that managed forests should be a growing industry not reducing. I have not seen any studies on forest productivity in Australia but my own observations indicate that trees are growing like weeds now compared to what I recall 60 years ago.

      The fuel burnt in the 2019/20 bush fires across Australia could have fuelled the entire Australian economy for two years. It is shameful that this fuel is building up to burn explosively rather than being managed for economic purposes.

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        Hanrahan

        Sawn timber is a wonderful, beautiful material and the jobs created, though not suitable for the clumsy, accident prone folk, are real jobs not “green” ones.

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      Dennis

      UN Agenda 21, now Agenda 30: Sustainability, signed circa 1990 by the Keating Labor Federal Government resulted in creation of State Crown Land or State Forests into UN registered National Parks, no logging permitted, no new dams, no exploitation of minerals and energy deposits, restrictions on camping and hiking, etc. And Marine National Parks banning commercial fishing and more resulting in a decline in local seafoods supply and related increased importation of seafoods.

      The last Labor and Green State Government of Tasmania were last to convert State Forests set aside for sustainable logging for the timber industry which resulted in many timber mills, trucking firms and other related businesses being shut down. The Abbott Coalition Government tried to assist the then Liberal State Government of Tasmania to have the National Parks revert to State Forests but were unsuccessful, the UN would not agree to it.

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    OldOzzie

    Reasonable force Victoria Police?

    Police aren’t there to punish.

    Nor are they sworn to “send a message” through aggressive, violent policing.

    Victoria Police have lost their way.

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      M Allinson

      And they are losing the people too – check these scenes of police cars being attacked:

      https://tinyurl.com/3p8u53dv

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      Dennis

      Police do not create the laws, they enforce the laws and each matter can be taken to a court of law if the person or persons fined want to challenge the police decision and law.

      Of course I am appalled by the heavy handed approach we are shown via media from Melbourne and Victoria generally, but there is a need to check facts. For example I have never experienced harsh treatment by police, they have been as polite to me as I have been to them. I have known a few police officers and in my early working years I shared a house with a few of them. They are after all Australians too doing a job they have been trained to do and without them our society would not be as it has been, the thin blue line looks after us, but they also have to deal with not nice people and horrible situations most of us have never experienced.

      The Emergency Powers VicGov now has were granted by both Houses of Parliament and the laws.

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        “The Emergency Powers VicGov now has were granted by both Houses of Parliament and the laws.”

        oh really, dont think so Dennis,
        Dandemic did under the table deals with the greens, sex party and animal welfare party to get the emergency powers extended not even considering the liberals, he even tried to get the powers extended for ever

        the over reach of the police will not be forgotten
        you do not get shot in the back of the head by running at the police
        https://www.facebook.com/greataustralianparty/videos/569824540882077
        and heres the police shooting unarmed protesters
        https://www.facebook.com/greataustralianparty/videos/188719019931910

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          Dennis

          It matters not what deals were done that fact remains that the emergency powers VicGov now have were granted by both Houses of Parliament and the laws”.

          Yes I get it, deals were done but that is not unusual in politics.

          Read my other posts, I do not support the “over reach of the police” but they are enforcing the laws which is their role in our society, Parliament creates the laws.

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            Gary Simpson

            Parliament in Victoria is shut down – too dangerous.

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            Those laws are illegal, that’s the point. Your Parliament creates the laws, but it is an outlaw Parliament, destructive of peoples’ rights to take care of themselves.

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            John+R+Smith

            Everything governments do is legal, if they declare it so.
            You have government approved protests, which are legal.
            And unapproved protests, which are illegal.
            Then you have enforcers that follow legal orders.
            (Which is much easier when they are one of the few allowed to work and get paid, as recently succinctly
            articulated by one your Melbourne Stormt … I mean policeman. Black attire … stylish since the Night of Long Knives.)

            I seem to recall there was a name for this kind of thing way back in the mid 20th century.
            And there were some ‘legal’ precedents.
            Unlike classic black attire, completely out of fashion.

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            “It matters not what deals were done that fact remains that the emergency powers VicGov now have were granted by both Houses of Parliament and the laws”.

            no Dennis deals were done to keep the emergency powers,
            Dandemic would not have them now if he did not buy the votes, all three judases were very public in saying they would not support the extension of the emergency powers before they got there 30 pieces of gold
            these were not deals to improve the quality of life of the people
            this was not democracy

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    Rod

    Just to break the plandemic monotony.

    While a strong eruption is currently hitting La Palma in the Canary Islands, a red alert warning has been issued by scientists stating that a “major eruption” is imminent at an Alaskan volcano.

    Volcanologists have stated that the major volcanic eruption is underway with hazardous activity both on the ground and in the air.

    Seismic observations represent an increase in eruptive activity at the site of the volcano. Scientists have upgraded the Aviation Color Code and Volcano Alert level to a red warning.

    The volcano is called Semisopochnoi. It is located on Unyak Island, which is part of the Rat Islands group in the western Aleutian Islands of Alaska.

    Must be due to AGW. Time to raise our taxes again to stop this volcanic activity.

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    Neville

    The CCP is now interested in helping the Taliban terrorists develop their trillion $ rare earth deposits.
    What a scary, EVIL combination of non believers and religious extremists, what could possibly go wrong?
    And who could care less about the persecuted Muslim slaves working for the CCP and supplying the stupid OECD countries with so called GREEN energy?

    https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/572932-china-seeks-to-extend-critical-minerals-monopoly-with-help-of?mc_cid=fb14f7865f&mc_eid=dcbe0ef09b

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    Greg in NZ

    Were not earthquakes a sure sign of a soon-to-be fallen leader in ancient Chinese times?

    We pure bloods in NZ wish all Vicdanistanians best wishes during this Level 5.8 Quake shake-up shake-down.

    May Chairman Dan fall on his sword a.s.a.p. [whether accidentally or metaphorically, I don’t mind].

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      RightOverLabour

      As a NZ Pure Blood ( please in future capitalise this noble concept) I concur completely. This is interesting reading and good data to strengthen our concern.
      https://www.sott.net/article/458525-Did-Pfizer-conduct-an-experiment-on-an-entire-country

      May JizzCinda Hardon suffer the same fate as Dick Tator Andrews.

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        OldOzzie

        August 1, 2021, the director of Israel’s Public Health Services, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, announced half of all COVID-19 infections were among the fully vaccinated.15

        The vaccinated are not only susceptible to testing positive, though: They’re also increasingly likely to experience serious disease when infected. Double-jabbed Israelis started making up the bulk of serious COVID-19 infections in July 2021, and by mid-August, 59% of serious cases were among those who had received two COVID injections.16

        Others have cited even higher numbers. August 5, 2021, Dr. Kobi Haviv, director of the Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem, appeared on Channel 13 News, reporting that 95% of severely ill COVID-19 patients were fully vaccinated, and that they made up 85% to 90% of COVID-related hospitalizations overall.17

        August 20, 2021, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Dr. Rochelle Walensky admitted that the Israeli data “suggest increased risk of severe disease amongst those vaccinated early,”18 and just like the Israeli Ministry of Health, the CDC’s answer to this dilemma is simply more shots, as if that’s going to solve anything.

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        ‘May JizzCinda Hardon suffer the same fate as Dick Tator Andrews.”

        roflmao

        thats belly laugh #2 for today, thankyou

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      OldOzzie

      Victorian earthquake: Ancient fault lines 10km underground

      How can it be that a severe 5.9 magnitude earthquake – the largest ever recorded in Victoria – ­occurred on Australia’s old, stable continent which, as we learn from childhood, is one of the least ­geologically active parts of the planet?

      The answer is that it didn’t.

      Wednesday’s quake happened in an area of our continent which is right on the boundary of the ancient, billions-of-years-old landmass at a weak point where it joins a newer region that “accreted” to the eastern seaboard.

      Starting about 400 million years ago, what is now eastern Victoria was in geological turmoil as the Australian landmass, then part of the Gondwana super continent, pushed against a neighbouring ocean plate, creating the Great ­Dividing Range.

      Most of the plate went underneath but parts of it scraped off and joined the Australian continent.

      When Gondwana broke up about 100 million years ago, Australia started moving north and the activity ceased.

      But left behind are the deep cracks, or fault lines, remnants of the collision which are now weaknesses in the continental plate.

      “They are the scars from past deformations,” said Australian National University geophysicist Louis Moresi.

      And in one of these scars, more than 10km underground, there was movement at 9.15 on Wednesday morning and the jarring was sufficient to shake Melbourne and be felt as far away as Sydney. It was followed by several aftershocks as the scraping in one part of the fault led to nearby parts shifting too.

      Adam Pascale, chief scientist of the Melbourne-based Seismology Research Centre, said the fault may have shifted by several tens of centimetres, and even up to a metre. But because it is so deep underground, there is no way to measure the distance directly.

      So, why did the fault lines give way?

      Professor Moresi confirms that, just as we learned at school, the Australian continent is stable, but is still under enormous stress.

      We are actually part of the Indo-Australian plate, he said, which he likens to a big banana stretching 10,000km from New Zealand to the Himalayas.

      And because the banana shape is inherently weak, that stress regularly finds release in the old Gondwana fault lines such as the major Governor fault that runs from Gippsland up through Shepparton to Echuca, right near the epicentre of Wednesday’s earthquake.

      It’s not the first time the fault lines have moved in this area. In 2012, a weaker 5.2 magnitude earthquake shook the Gippsland town of Moe.

      “It’s an area where there is increased seismic activity relative to the rest of Australia,” said Caroline Eakin, another ANU geophysicist.

      Although the quake caused alarm in Melbourne, Mr Pascale said it could have been so much worse.

      If the epicentre had been nearer the city there would have been much more damage, more like the 1989 5.6 magnitude Newcastle earthquake which destroyed buildings, killed 13 people and caused damage worth $8.3bn in today’s dollars.

      Nevertheless, one reason why the quake was felt all over southeastern Australia is the hard rock which is characteristic of the region. “Energy waves travel a lot further (in hard rock) which is why it was felt at such distances,” he said.

      Although the stresses on our banana-shaped continental plate regularly cause earthquakes, we are never expected to experience quakes as strong as New Zealand, Japan or the west coast of North and South America which sit on plate boundaries.

      Earthquakes will be more powerful on the edges of tectonic plates, said University of Sydney geophysicist Ben Mather.

      For example the 2011 Japan earthquake, which caused the ­Fukushima nuclear disaster, was of a magnitude of 9.

      Each magnitude increase on the scale corresponds to an energy release over 30 times larger, ­meaning that the Fukushima earthquake was at least 30,000 times more powerful than the Melbourne quake.

      “We are never going to experience the same frequency of earthquakes nor the intensity of earthquakes as those places,” Dr Eakin said.

      Australia’s most powerful recorded earthquake was in 1988 in Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. It was a magnitude 6.6.

      Although the cause of earthquakes is well understood, we don’t know when they will occur. We have no way to predict when a fault line will give way.

      The stresses that we would like to measure are usually many ­kilometres underground, Mr Pascale said.

      Scientists expect earthquakes to have aftershocks, and Wednesday’s quake had several of diminishing strength in the hour after the initial shake.

      But Mr Pascale can’t rule out that the quake might be a foreshock to a larger event. “It will happen within a few weeks if it’s going to happen,” he said.

      Excellent diagrams in the article that can’t be shown but one new reference site for me

      https://earthquakes.ga.gov.au/

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        OriginalSteve

        My take from a Christian perspective – It may have been God serving notice on Victoria.

        Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin.

        If you look at how deep Victoria has dropped into darkness in recent months, its up to the people to stop it.

        The thing is, and this may make me unpopular – in the Bible, many times the outright wickedness of the people meant God abandoned them into the clutches of an army or invading force so the land would be defiled by the invader and the people taken into slavery.

        Has Australia’s unrepentant sin become so bad, that we are now abandoned by God into slavery and a strong delusion sent by God so that those who love sin and wickedness and refuse to turn from it, will love it even more and drop into an abyss and be literally taken captive by it?

        I hope not, but the signs arent good.

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      Serp

      Falling on his holiday let stairs only gave the electorate three months respite so yes bring on the sword although bear in mind it is a gesture reserved for honourable persons which is a different usage than that indiscriminately applied to our parliamentary representatives.

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      Annie

      We can but hope.

      In tbe meantime; something sent on to me yesterday evening:

      Coronavirus: Everybody Stay Inside

      Earthquake: Everybody Run Outside

      God: “You put the scared people in,
      you put the scared people out,
      you put the scared people in
      and you shake them all about”

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    OriginalSteve

    How about this – medical slides showing what appears to be impsct of the vaccines on human tissue

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1440083692857135111.html

    “Today there was a press conference from the pathological institute in Reutlingen, Germany. The pathologists Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt and Prof. Dr. Walter presented the results of the autopsies of eight people who died after COVID19 vaccination.

    “(in German)
    Here is a summary of the highlights.
    (3/n) 10 autopsies, 8 evaluations.
    (Slide text translated into English)

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    Rod

    Israel’s ministry of health mortality data exposed!

    w
    ..we proved with Dr. Hervé Seligmann that between the first and second dose and another week the injected will die from corona 20 to 40 times more than the unvaccinated at that time and even a worse ratio for young people.

    Who’d be vaxxed. Not me !

    http://www.nakim.org/israel-forums/viewtopic.php?t=271020

    Taking a break as of now to move house a bit further north.
    Far north Qld here I come!

    Mods can breathe a sigh of relief for a few weeks.

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      Tilba+Tilba

      … the injected will die from corona 20 to 40 times more than the unvaccinated at that time and even a worse ratio for young people.

      One would need to see the comparison. Out of 1000 vaccinated people who contract Covid-19, how many die, compared to 1000 cases of those unvaccinated?

      There are 1900 Americans dying each day from Covid-19 – almost all of them are unvaccinated – seems pretty clear.

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      Fran

      Having three definitions of “vaccinated” is permitting gross misrepresentation of the data. Another thing I have found suspicious about the Israeli data is that hospitalization numbers for vaxed and unvaxed are released (about 60% vaccinated most recently), there is no gloating mention of there being fewer unvaxed in ICU.

      All governments, however, are doubling down on “Vax prevents severe disease”.

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    OriginalSteve

    Hypothetical discussion:

    Suppose a politician hid a deal from federal govt for a number of years, appeared to be a keen proponent of an initiative of an aggressive Communist nation that has a global plan to become the next superpower, locks populations down until they riot, forces medical procedure on a population or else they cant work or eat….

    would you call it Communism?

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    Forrest Gardener

    And talk about the miscalculation by the police hierarchy. All they had to do was to wave the protesters through like every other protest in living memory. I cannot remember ever being on the side of protesters before but I am this time. I’m even mildly sympathetic to the rabble rousers in the crowds.

    So what’s the plan Dan? Stage a few rent a crowd protests for the mutual benefit of government and CFMEU hierarchy? Take the police down a peg or two by using them as political operatives like the rest of the public service? Create chaos so you can play Bob Hawke and be the hero?

    I can’t decide whether my thoughts are too machievellian or not machievellian enough.

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      RightOverLabour

      As someone who did military training and attained the rank of Full Lieutenant, I have generally been very anti protestor. These protests, however, I fully support, as the ones in Europe against Green Passes. Never been so keen to see a bunch of coopers get the bash as the thugs in Melbourne.

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      Mark+Allinson

      ASIO – like the FBI in the US – has been warning us for years now about the most dangerous form of terrorism: white nationalist terrorists.

      And they have been searching for such groups for years too.

      Now they have them in their sights, thronging the streets of Melbourne and endangering police.

      Before long, anyone caught with an Ozzie flag in their home will be off to a “Quarantine Facility.”

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    Strop

    From Friends of Science

    https://www.prweb.com/releases/bank_of_canada_challenged_on_climate_risk_and_net_zero_by_new_report_says_friends_of_science_society/prweb18209495.htm

    An open letter to the Bank of Canada challenges the ability of banks and insurance companies to evaluate climate risk or reach NetZero COP26 targets, referring to a new report “Fighting Climate Change: Can We Humans Regulate Earth’s Climate?” issued by Friends of Science Society. The report is sponsored by Canadians for Sensible Climate Policy.

    As reported by the Daily Mail, Sept. 20, 2021, Britain’s current energy and looming food production crisis serves as a warning that COP26 Net Zero goals will destroy modern society.

    Media reports about the recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) AR6 climate report were rife with the “Code Red” claims that came from UN Sec-Gen Guterres’ press release. “Fighting Climate Change…” report shows the actual science of the IPCC report offers good news. The most catastrophic scenario (RCP 8.5) is no longer seen as humanity’s likely future, as explained by US climate policy analyst, Roger Pielke, Jr., meaning the climate emergency is over. Thus, NetZero targets are no longer necessary as “we do have time” for a thoughtful, rational energy transition.

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      OldOzzie

      “Politicians Can’t Stop Climate Change” is the theme of Friends of Science Society’s 18th Annual Event which will feature Dr. Guus Berkhout, president of CLINTEL, on October 2, 2021 at 10am MDT and Marc Morano, author of “Green Fraud: Why the Green New Deal is Even Worse Than You Think” on October 6, 2021 at 7pm MDT.

      However our Politicians here in Australia are too dumb to understand “Politicians Can’t Stop Climate Change”

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        OldOzzie
        September 23, 2021 at 9:43 am ·
        “Politicians Can’t Stop Climate Change”

        And … Scientists can’t stop climate change…!
        ..and…. Mankind cant stop climate change ..!
        …..its like Time,.. you cannot stop it, so learn to adapt and go with it ..!

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        Tilba+Tilba

        If you accept that global warming over the past 150 years has been caused by industrial-scale agriculture, vast forest clearing, and the burning of fossil fuels in transport and industry – then you might well hold the view that political action can ameliorate it, and even reverse it.

        My concern is that the phrase is actually correct “Politicians Can’t Stop Climate Change” because Western capitalism, State capitalism (China), and those driving industrialisation across the developing world, aren’t going to change their ways.

        We’ll keep doing all the things that damage the planet until we can’t.

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    M Allinson

    All Hail the Woke!

    We are the Woke who deign to kneel
    To show the un-woke world we feel
    Superior to their red-necked ways
    And old traditions they still praise.

    We kneel upon the neck of culture
    And plan its end as would a vulture;
    We are the woke enlightened few
    Who sneer at those who say “true blue”.

    And in this way we stoop to conquer
    The racist, sexist, Ozzie plonker
    Who thinks we should treat all the same,
    But that would leave us none to blame.

    And none could rise lest some go down,
    So up we rise with black and brown.
    How proud we are to be so woke,
    Unlike you lesser red-necked folk.

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      Gabriel Pentelie

      Bravo, M Alison! Excellent poem!

      Hope you don’t mind, I just shared it in a MeWe group of fellow freedom-lovers here in the U.S.. With attribution, of course, via a link to your post.

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    Environment Sceptic

    Riveting interview.

    Attorney Dr Reiner Fuellmich interviews Vera Sharav Nazi holocaust child survivor Global Genocide
    22,762 views
    Apr 7, 2021

    https://youtu.be/FjUOHGY2K14

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    Brenda Spence

    Lengthy (1hour15) explanation by a Belgian clinical psychology professor on why some in the population are so in fear of the virus and others arent.

    https://youtu.be/uLDpZ8daIVM

    Why do so many buy into the virus?
    It’s called “mass formation” and what we can do to help.

    From Pandemic Podcasts.

    Worth a watch if you have the time.

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    Furiously+Curious

    I read somewhere a comment on the banning of IVM in Australia, where it was pointed out that authorities sanction the use of dangerous, illegally imported drugs, through the use of ‘safe injecting rooms’. I’d say those drugs are rather more dangerous than IVM! Could we have safe injecting rooms for IVM??

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    Furiously+Curious

    Or safe ingesting rooms?

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    Brenda Spence

    2018 – 58,861 cases of flu
    2019 – 313,085
    2020 – 21,356
    2021 – 436 to August.

    Where-o-where has the flu gone?
    Closed borders? Hand washing? Social distancing? Its not working for covid in Victoria or NSW.

    The flu vanished when covid came in. Is anyone else suspicious?

    Maybe the PCR test is not that accurate.

    https://www.immunisationcoalition.org.au/news-data/influenza-statistics/

    “Click on the icon above for a graph of statistics.

    This report provides a summary of influenza surveillance data collected from around Australia and New Zealand. Regional reporting in some areas ceases when influenza activity is low (out of season). Please note that many people do not get tested for influenza and that there may also be some delays in reporting confirmed influenza cases.”

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      RickWill

      The alpha strain of Covid vanished when the delta strain took over.

      The most infectious wins the survival race. The R0 of flu is about half the R0 of the alpha variant and one third the R0 of the delta variant.

      So action taken to slow the rate of infection of either the alpha or delta Covid variants would mean the flu virus never starts building.

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        el+gordo

        Australia has eliminated flu deaths in Australia, simply because new strains didn’t turn up when we closed the borders.

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          PeterS

          One problem with you flawed logic. We didn’t close our borders! Thousands still came ever week. In the month of July this year alone there were 103,500 arrivals according to ABS. Can’t you at least check the facts before making stupid statements?

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            el+gordo

            The elimination of flu deaths in the land of Oz is commendable. People have been coming home, but they go through quarantine to minimise contagion.

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        yarpos

        Thanks goodness we have avoided thousands of flu deaths and thousands more hospitalisations. You would think with all that capacity not used we would have some space in the system, but we remain ever on the precipice.

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      Oh god not this again. Ah well someone bothered replying. Stay tuned for it to be repeated again. Soon.

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      Mark+Allinson

      Those who believe and quote the 4 million death toll ascribed to Covid need to explain what part of that figure actually belongs to influenza.

      No use saying that the Covid measures have stopped the flu when the Covid virus has not been stopped by these same measures.

      Influenza regularly has a world total of 2 to 3 million deaths – and the reports of biased counting in hospitals etc probably account for another million.

      So maybe a million deaths to Covid – hardly a “pandemic.”

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      Chris

      Brenda, Fauci announced about a month ago that the PCR test is going to be de-authorised by the Americans on the 1/1/22 because it cannot distinguish between Covid and the Flu. There will be a more sensitive test taking its place in January.

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    Furiously+Curious

    Just a reminder about Human Resources. HR is the party cell, put into every organisation these days, to get/keep them pure, and in line. I remember reading about Soviet units in WW11, all having to have a political officer, who was able to use rather severe measures, to keep them on the straight and narrow. Now China has a party cell in every organisation. We’re doing exactly the same. HR. Brainwashed, straight out of university, put in charge of appointments and culture. It’s seldom mentioned, but there is their Trojan horse. I’m scratching my head at this not being obvious.
    Also the big change in voting patterns in the last 10 yrs – the solid group vote by the ‘educated’, hugely to the left. It’s been a massively successful re education program, now strongly evident, down into pre school! We rail about where society is going, and that it should be changed, but unless you are able to counter maybe 3 generations of re education camps, you’re whistling in the wind.

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    Rod

    As it just broke, I’ll post this before I go.

    Project Veritas whistleblower Part 2.

    Inside the FDA.
    National registry for the unvaccinated.
    Sounds like a certain period in Germany’s past we can’t mention any more.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oWWcqGk1m4&feature=youtu.be

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    RickWill

    Welcome to the Freedom Cafe!

    We trust you to make your own choices if you want to wear a face mask. And, in the same spirit of individual liberty, we allow our staff to make their own choices about the safety procedures they prefer to follow as they prepare and serve your food.

    We encourage employees to wash their hands after using the bathroom, but understand that some people may be allergic to certain soaps or may simply prefer not to wash their hands. It is not our place to tell them what to do.

    We understand that you may be used to chicken that has been cooked to 165 degrees. We do have to respect that some of our cooks may have seen a meme or a YouTube video saying that 100 degrees is sufficient, and we do not want to encroach on their beliefs.

    Some of our cooks may prefer to use the same utensils for multiple ingredients, including ingredients some customers are allergic to. That is a cook’s right to do so.

    Some servers may wish to touch your food as they serve it. There is no reason that a healthy person with clean hands can’t touch your food. We will take their word for it that they are healthy and clean.

    Water temperature and detergent are highly personal choices, and we allow our dishwashing team to decide how they’d prefer to wash the silverware you will put in your mouth.

    Some of you may get sick, but almost everyone survives food poisoning. We think you’ll agree that it’s a small price to pay for the sweet freedom of no one ever being told what to do – and especially not for the silly reason of keeping strangers healthy.
    Libby Jones
    Love, Sally-Jane

    https://sallyjaneheit.wordpress.com/2020/08/02/welcome-to-the-freedom-cafe/

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      Travis T. Jones

      And in the spirit of individual freedom, Sally-Jane allows the staff to rifle through the cash register and help them selves.
      Sadly, silly old Sally-Jane and her stupid Freedom Cafe went out of business not following basic commonsense rules.

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      Strop

      I interpret the Cafe Freedom concept as a dig at those who object to compulsory mask wearing, compulsory vaccination, and/or object to excluding those who are not vaccinated from shops or events etc.

      It seems most of the points or examples in the post relate to people objecting to being told what to do. But being told what to do is not the majority objection to compulsory vaccination or excluding the non-vaccinated. It’s about people choosing what goes into their body and particularly a vaccine that is still somewhat experimental and the short and long term effects largely unknown.

      In the cafe example most of it relates to customers ultimately putting a cafe product into their body. So the requirement on the cafe to meet basic health stipulations and particularly the desires of the customer are not for the whims of the staff or the staff’s right to choose.

      Cafe Freedom is really quite a bad attempt to make a point.

      Yes, I’m fully vaccinated.

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        Strop

        Sorry, I didn’t directly address the mask aspect.

        Masks are impractical to wear eating or drinking in a cafe, and are uncomfortable and inhibit breathing and vision. It’s not just a “don’t tell me what to do” objection.
        Plus, the effectiveness of masks are dubious. The effectiveness of cafe hygiene processes is well proven.

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      Annie

      I think that is daft…

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    Is WIND generation being curtailed ?
    Looking at the NEM log graphics..
    http://nemlog.com.au/gen/region/nsw/
    ..for NSW and QLD there are signs of significant “Curtailment” during the midday period.
    Up to 1 GW in the case of QLD.
    I assume by looking at the traces, this is Wind being cut back, but the odd thing is that in NSW this is being done at the same time as importing power from QLD ?
    Can anyone understand this logic ?

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      Hanrahan

      I doubt NSW has to cut back.

      https://www.windy.com/?-27.473,153.022,5,i:pressure

      And NSW almost always imports from Qld. We make some profit and I occasionally get a dividend payment off my bill.

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      RickWill

      The current price of LGCs is around $35/MWh. So when the wholesale price falls more negative than this, the WDGs pull out of the market. The coal plants bid a slab of energy near the floor price (say -$1000/MWh) to ensure they remain scheduled in the knowledge they can usually recover the losses during the evening peak and the price will not go under the LGC price for very long. The WDGs have limited opportunity to recover losses so simply pull out of the market once they are paying to export power.

      At 11:30am 23 Sept, both Qld and NSW were at -$33/MWh. WDGs will voluntarily curtail in these circumstances.
      https://www.aemo.com.au/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem#price-demand

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        RickWill

        The generation information on this site actually gives an estimate of the curtailed output:
        http://nemlog.com.au/gen/region/

        It is the faint orange dotted line. Both NSW and Qld have curtailed WDGs from 8am on the 23 Sept.

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          RickWill

          This is the Noon wholesale price across the NEM. All four states listed have negative wholesale price.
          23 September 2021 – 12:00
          QLD
          PRICE
          -$29.00
          DEMAND VS GENERATION
          4,514
          4,720
          SA
          PRICE
          -$32.76
          DEMAND VS GENERATION
          617
          891
          -103
          -103
          -411
          137
          NSW
          PRICE
          -$14.78
          DEMAND VS GENERATION
          5,743
          5,004
          533
          VIC
          PRICE
          -$37.73
          DEMAND VS GENERATION
          3,481
          4,112

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          Rick,
          How does the AEMO tell the difference between a wind generator “self curtailing”. and that same generator just not able to supply due to low wind, maintenance, broken equipment restrictions, etc ?
          My understanding was that Curtailment was a restriction imposed on the generator and dictated by the Market Operator. .?…..hence how the AEMO know the amount.

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            RickWill

            Your understanding of curtailment is only partly correct and not the most common cause of curtailment. The WDGs can voluntarily curtail by setting a price that takes them out of the scheduled generators. They will be bidding at around -$35/MWh. So will not be in the scheduled stack if the price falls below this. Remember that rooftops are not in the scheduled stack and produce irrespective of the wholesale price. Rooftops currently supply 30% of the total demand around midday. Right now, metered rooftops are producing 8.3GW of the 24.3GW total demand.

            The WDGs are not told to pull out of the market, they simply have a higher offer then the top price for the scheduled interval. That means they do not get scheduled. They voluntarily curtail through the wholesale market price that they bid in at. I have looked at the bid blocks for the coal generators but not at the WDGs lately. Before the WDGs became significant they bid at the floor price so they were always scheduled but coal generators are now much smarter in the bidding so they will stay connected but operating at reduced output. Bidding is nothing like merit order these days. It is just bidding to maximise profit (or to stay in business)

            The curtailment value is only an estimate based on wind strength because it is not power being diverted to waste or any nonsense like that.

            The estimate for solar curtailment is quite accurate because it is easy to see how rooftops are performing. This time of year, the grid scale solar in Qld will be curtailing almost every day.

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              Rick, i admit i have no way of checking what or how is being curtailed.
              But if you look at the QLD chart it is apparent that the wind contribution drops just as curtailment starts ,..and picks up again as the curtailment finishes .?
              ..Coincidence ?
              There doesnt seem to be any similar effect on the Solar generation.
              And we know that RT solar is only an estimate ..+-20% at best, as no one has any way of compiling a accurate total from all installations
              RT solar generation would be much more messy and unpredictable than the already chaotic Utility solar. Nothing like the smooth curve assumed on their graphics….there is a fair bit of “artistic licience” at play there. ,

              But my question remains… if a Wind generator doesnt supply for any reason , ..including bidding too high,..how do the AEMO know how much is being curtailed , at any specific time,..from a source as variable as wind..or solar ?.
              Infact , how can even the wind generators know how much they are NOT producing,..since as you say they dont generate it and then just waste it in big energy dumps !… ??

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                RickWill

                how do the AEMO know how much is being curtailed

                It is based on an estimate. The scheduling software that each generator uses has to take rooftop into account because rooftop is a significant generator. It will alter the price of FCAS and that is something other WDGs need to be sensitive to because they pay about 50% of the cost of FCAS.

                I just looked up the AEMO 12:30 forecast for rooftop for today. It totalled 8501MW across the 5 regions. Close to actual that I noted above.

                AEMO and other generators have a good handle on solar production because there are quite a few rooftops monitored. They also know how the demand changes when the rooftops suddenly go missing.

                Wind energy forecasting is not quite as reliable but it is done on a daily basis and provided in the STPASA file. You can find that file for each day in the NEM public data. This link takes you to the AEMO explanation on how the data is determined:
                https://www.aemo.com.au/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/nem-forecasting-and-planning/operational-forecasting/load-forecasting-in-pre-dispatch-and-stpasa

                All market bidders need to have a good handle on the demand and supply and how price is set on a 5 minute basis for every day. That includes the energy and services markets. Unless each bidder understands the market and what is going on minute by minute, they can get badly burnt. Sending a lot of energy out at high negative price can really hurt.

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                RickWill
                September 23, 2021 at 5:53 pm
                “how do the AEMO know how much is being curtailed “ ?

                I just looked up the AEMO 12:30 forecast for rooftop for today. It totalled 8501MW across the 5 regions. Close to actual that I noted above.

                Rick… think of what you are saying there..
                ….that the actual RT solar total ..( which is itself an estimate !).. is close to the forecast total…( also an estimate !)
                At no stage is there any possibility of an accurate total MEASUREMENT.
                …so i am not surprised their declared result is close to their forecast .
                We know how those estimate are compiled from sampling meters in each post code, and panel sales data, etc etc, …..but to believe that is any more than the loosest of estimates, is not convincing me !
                Obviously, utility Solar is much better monitored and reportable.

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      RickWill

      This details how the WDGs have needed to get smarter and more nimble in the way they bid to remain profitable:
      https://reneweconomy.com.au/australias-wind-and-solar-farms-seek-to-dodge-negative-prices-and-grid-costs/

      Modern wind and solar farms are highly flexible assets that can fully reduce or restore their output within a single five-minute dispatch – but they are only permitted to do so by first seeking permission from the market operator (in the form of an updated bid) and then receiving an updated dispatch target.

      In this way, changing renewable output is coordinated through the central dispatch process, so that AEMO can keep the power system in balance.

      They cannot just curtail if the price goes negative. They have to participate in the pre-dispatch so they get scheduled or not. Solar forecast is about 90% accurate. Wind I believe around 80%. So semi-scheduled is no longer a free pass to go off and on based on price. The WDGs have to be involved in the price setting because they can be a good slice of the generation.

      It is not easy to make money in the current market and the best price gamer can make more than those not playing the game.

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    another ian

    “Gentlemen, if you’ve had the jab you might want to keep an eye on your onions. Reports indicate some potential problems.”

    More and links at

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/09/22/check-your-onions/

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    The Dread Covid Theatre drags on,only reason the audience are still in the seats is because we are chained to them.
    What is behind the fear of the “helpers”?
    I could assume malice,but that would presuppose a plan,from some of the most clueless and useless people to ever slither across this planet..

    Maybe they are sincere.
    They really do fear this Dread Covid and are working all hours to save us from ourselves..
    Fear could be a real explanation for the power tripping stupidity..
    For fear does blind people,the old;”We have nothing to fear but fear itself” is very true.

    Now if you are extremely gullible and more than a little stupid,a clever tale-spinner can scare you right out of your mind..
    Which looks to be the condition of our expert help and professional parasites.

    Maybe the current level of panic ,hysteria and draconian reactions is good old fashioned fear turned to terror..

    The presumption from our protectors is that the State is more important than the individual.
    Thus in a crisis,it is quite acceptable to crush a few individuals,to save the collective..
    Yet the very first problem arises right there.
    The State,in fact any “Collective” is an act of fiction.
    Each individual is real.
    But any group ethic is almost pure fraud,for (To quote the Shadow)”Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of man.

    So a fiction is more important than you, an imaginary consensus,which changes depending on who has the power, overrules your natural rights and freedoms.

    The fiction of the State and its ethical superiority over individuals is further imploded by the caliber of persons who perform the functions of The State.

    So in this strange theatre of the absurd,persons of a natural incompetence, who fear hard work and want to take no responsibility for their own decisions..form these bureaucracies who have declared a crisis..It is a Pandemic ! An emergency!..

    Followed by a brutal demonstration of their real ability ..

    18 months ago you could not have convinced most of us,of what has just occurred..
    Useless Clueless and Utterly destructive of civil society and our real economy..

    Help so awesome that we must reward them.
    Such a reward that their fellow travellers will shun any position of authority for the next hundred years.

    Well who knew “Good Enough For Government” was such a low standard?

    Are they really so stupid that they believe no one shall die?
    Did they miss Primary School Biology?
    Life..
    On most species of Earth ,life is a sexually transmitted terminal dis-ease.

    Fear of life’s end,also known as death,is irrational madness.

    Using extremes of State force and Magic Potions to fight a Virus of the Common Cold Family with a 98% survival rate (when untreated) is beyond insane..

    So are these “helpers” who have already inflicted more pain and economic ruin,than a real pandemic,insane with terror?
    For their “cure” is beginning to look more lethal than the illness.

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    OldOzzie

    MCC goes gender neutral in rewrite of cricket laws

    “Batsman” goes out as Cricket goes Gender Neutral

    Marylebone Cricket Club on Wednesday announced an amendment to the laws of the game meaning the gender-neutral term “batter” will be used from now on instead of “batsman”.

    The club, the sole authority on the laws of the game, said the use of the terminology would “help reinforce cricket’s status as an inclusive game for all”.

    Cricket commentators have increasingly used the term “batter” to refer to male players, in an acknowledgment that the universal term “batsman” has become dated as more women take the game.

    The profile of women’s cricket has rocketed in recent years, with England’s victory over India in the 2017 World Cup final taking place in front of a capacity crowd at Lord’s, which is owned by the MCC.

    A crowd of 86,174 saw Australia defeat India in the T20 World Cup final in Melbourne in 2020 and in August Lord’s broke the record for a domestic women’s match as more than 17,000 fans watched the final of the inaugural Hundred competition.

    “MCC believes in cricket being a game for all and this move recognises the changing landscape of the game in modern times,” said Jamie Cox, assistant secretary with responsibility for cricket and operations.

    “Use of the term ‘batter’ is a natural evolution in our shared cricketing language and the terminology has already been adopted by many of those involved in the sport.

    “It is the right time for this adjustment to be recognised formally and we are delighted, as the guardians of the laws, to announce these changes today.”

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    OldOzzie

    NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has confirmed an investigation is underway into the source of at least 29 Covid-19 infections at Liverpool hospital, pictured above.

    “They’re doing some investigations trying to work out what actually caused the intrusion of the virus in the hospital,” he said.

    “I mean, almost every hospital in the world of the pandemic has had intrusions, it’s just too much.

    “They’re doing everything to try to work out what is causing the issue. And when they do, that will be interesting.”

    When pressed, Mr Hazzard said he was “concerned” about the rate of infection at the hospital.

    South Western Sydney Local Health District confirmed that there had been six exposure events at the hospital in the past week.

    The 29 cases include 13 patients and two staff in the orthopaedics ward, two patients and one staff member in the renal ward, three patients and one staff member in the neurology ward, five patients in the geriatrics ward and one patient in the cardiothoracic ward.

    A nurse in Liverpool’s ICU has also tested positive.

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    YallaYPoora Kid

    More tripe from the Climate Alarmist brigade, this time about our beaches close to Geelong on the Surf Coast. Published in the Victorian HeraldSun as part of regional Geelong news.

    Without immediate action, the region’s pristine coastlines and popular tourism destinations will be washed away, ­according to new findings.
    An interactive web page developed by FrontierSI and NGIS Australia has illustrated the severity of rising sea levels based on the latest scientific modelling.

    The list of concerns includes Bells Beach, which the modelling shows could vanish beyond the year 2050.

    The website is based on a report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which indicates that by the year 2050 sea levels will have risen between 15 to 30cm and are likely to have increased by 0.84m in 2100.

    “Each of the last four decades has been successively warmer than any decade that preceded it since 1850,” it reads.

    Just alarmist claptrap “will have” and “likely’ – certainty factor of too much! The trend at Fort Denison in Sydney Harbour is much less.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/geelong/bells-beach-could-vanish-under-rising-sea-levels-according-to-new-modelling/news-story/6a44d1f766f95a9dadb5e15daf0b98dd

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    Travis T. Jones

    The current lockdown on the NSW north coast was sparked by a fully vaccinated crew member from a tv production.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-21/nsw-north-coast-lockdown-linked-to-reality-tv-crew/100480400

    Can ScoMo and Glad the Impaler explain again why everyone must get “fully” vaccinated and what is this freedom they speak of?

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      MP

      The freedom to do as your told.

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      Forrest Gardener

      So much disrespect shown to our political leaders. ScoMo, Glad the Impaler, Taliban Dan, Palace Chook or Plucka Duck (take your pick). All disrespect so richly deserved too.

      But it just goes to show that anybody wanting to climb the greasy pole of political power should be immediately disqualified from doing so.

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    OldOzzie

    Given povidone-iodine is mentioned in https://c19early.com/ and https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

    and also

    1. Iota-Carrageenan Nasal Spray for COVID-19

    Marinomed Biotech AG (VSE:MARI), an Austrian science-based biotech company with globally marketed therapeutics derived from innovative proprietary technology platforms, announced today that Carragelose inactivates the new, rapidly spreading variants and SARS-CoV-2 wildtype with similar efficacy in vitro. The Company tested the three variants that currently mostly drive the COVID-19 pandemic, namely the so-called British or B.1.1.7, the South-African or B.1.351, and the Brazilian or P1 variant.[*] The data demonstrate that also with increasing prevalence of virus variants, the marketed OTC Carragelose-based lozenges, nasal and throat sprays will continue to effectively contribute to combatting the COVID-19 pandemic.

    . Iodine nasal spray/drops: Use 1% povidone-iodine commercial product

    as per instructions 2–3 x daily. If 1%-product not available, must first dilute the more widely available
    10%-solution4 and apply 4–5 drops to each nostril every 4 hours. (No more than 5 days in pregnancy.)

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      Destroyer D69

      FLO TRAVEL nasal spray also contains carrageenum and is described as having similar effectiveness.Have used it for some weeks now and my breathing is undoubtedly easier Available at most Aus pharmacies.

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      Vicki

      I use Betadine (Iodine based “gargle”) after any encounter I might think is dubious or if I have any sign of sore throat etc.

      This may sound a bit much – but I have no intention of submitting to the experimental “vaccines” & will take every precaution against what is, indeed, a nasty virus. This, and the recommended vitamin protocol etc ……

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        KevJ

        Most definitely Vicki.. It’s been the first line of defence in our home for many years at the first sign of a sore throat.

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        Hanrahan

        It is not a good idea to destroy your oral biome. Nor is it good to destroy that on your skin, do so and you will NEED deodorants.

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      I told about some weeks ago.
      7ni Erlangen in Germany researched about and confirmed COV-19 protection.

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    RossP

    Some experiences of ordinary people in Israel, after they have had the jab. They thought they were doing the right thing.

    https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/

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      Hanrahan

      I went to the Doc’s Mon and he berated me for not taking my blood pressure pills every day: “Your wife needs you, you would be no good to her if you have a stroke”. Truth is I’ve had a couple of hypotension events so I’m careful with his pills.

      The same man wants me to have the jab. Far higher risk of something nasty happening after that but he doesn’t recognise his hypocrisy.

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    OldOzzie

    meanwhile – the coercion continues

    Billionaire Solomon Lew wants temperature and vaccine checks at shopping centre entrances

    Solomon Lew has warned that consumers will stop visiting the nation’s leading shopping malls unless there is certainty around vaccinations and temperature checks, as the billionaire retailer admitted he wouldn’t feel safe sitting in a shopping centre food court without health checks at the door.

    The businessman, whose Premier Investments owns a portfolio of retail chains such as Portmans, Just Jeans, Dotti, Peter Alexander and Smiggle, warned shopping malls that they needed to listen to the businesses that paid their bills – the retail tenants.

    Mr Lew said shopping centre owners had an “absolute responsibility” to ensure the safety of shoppers and store staff, and this would require health checks at the doors and a requirement that anyone entering be vaccinated.

    “First of all we need to protect our customers and you need to make it as safe a place to shop, families are coming, mum, dad, the kids, grandparents coming into a big seasonal shopping time,” Mr Lew said.

    “The mall owners have to take more responsibility, they are the ones that are letting people into centres so at the entry point there should be a check, they have to be safe.

    “Our strong preference is with the government mandate, is that with all persons entering the (shopping) mall be vaccinated and checked for temperature as well and that should take place at the point of access.

    As I said to my wife, who is double vaccinated – I won’t be going anywhere – I will save a fortune on not eating at restaurants or going shopping at Malls, and as Dictator Dan is only letting Double Vaccinated Victorians come home, obviously no flying on Qantas to Melbourne to see Grandkids

    What a Crappy Country Australia has become

    To Quote American VP Kamala Harris “My Body, My Choice”

    From the Australian Government – Australian Building & Construction Commission

    What is coercion?

    Coercion is the act of organising or taking action, or threatening to organise or take action against someone with the intent to influence that person or another person to do something. Coercion interferes with a person’s freedom of choice.

    Certain kinds of coercion are unlawful under the provisions of the BCIIP Act and the general protections provisions in the FW Act.

    It’s unlawful for an employer, fellow employee or a union to coerce an employee to exercise, or not exercise, their workplace rights.

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      Vicki

      THIS HELPFUL ARTICLE APPEARED TODAY IN THE AUSTRALIAN SPECTATOR:

      Limiting access for the unvaxed to public places will likely breach the Disability Discrimination Act
      David Porter

      iStock
      David Porter

      23 September 2021

      Your correspondent is a retired lawyer who these days prefers gardening to litigating. Spring in the Victorian High Country is glorious and my garden is just coming to life after a winter of heavy frosts and a little bit of snow. The crab-apples are in blossom.

      Despite new botanical life in the garden; life is about to become much harder for Victorians unvaccinated against Covid-19.

      Two weeks back Daniel Andrews, Premier of Victoria, announced, “I think if you are not vaccinated, and you could be, then the chances of you booking a ticket at a sporting event, going to a pub, going to all manner of different places, will be very, very limited.”

      There is uncertainty about how lockout laws will be implemented in Victoria. No legislation, subordinate legislation or legislatively authorised bureaucratic orders have been announced or made available for public comment. Will the lockout laws last only as long as the state of emergency under the Public Health and Wellbeing Act 2008 (Vic)?

      The position in the rest of Australia is even less certain.

      John Barilaro, deputy premier of New South Wales, said that “At 70% [vaccination], it’s a level of freedom, maybe some businesses won’t take that up, maybe individuals won’t take it up but the reality is there will be a point in time – at 80 to 85% possibly – that we will then expand on those freedoms even for the unvaccinated.”

      Gladys Berekjiklian, premier of NSW, howled down her deputy saying that “We have not yet put out our plans for 80%; we’re still formalising them. Government might say it’s up to business to decide whether or not they accept unvaccinated patrons … but we have not come to those conclusions yet. We all have choices and if it’s your choice not to be vaccinated, well that might mean you cannot participate in things that (the) fully vaccinated do.”

      Your correspondent has no idea what the other Australian States and Territories intend to do with their unvaccinated. Throw them to the thylacines, possibly.

      But whatever any of the States and Territories intend to do with their unvaccinated; they all face a legal limitation: the Disability Discrimination Act 1992 (Cth).

      Way back in the early 1990s; when the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) was a new thing and the HIV-infected toddler Eve van Grafhorst was denied daycare unless she wore a muzzle; the Commonwealth of Australia determined to pass a law that prohibited certain types of discrimination against people infected with, or who might be infected with “organisms capable of causing disease or illness”.

      Unfortunately, it is necessary to get down and dirty with some legislative text. Section 4 of the Disability Discrimination Act defines “disability”, relevantly, as follows:

      “disability”, in relation to a person, means:

      (d) the presence in the body of organisms capable of causing disease or illness;

      and includes a disability that:

      (h) presently exists; or

      (i) previously existed but no longer exists; or

      (j) may exist in the future (including because of a genetic predisposition to that disability); or

      (k) is imputed to a person.

      If you could be bothered to read the explanatory memorandum to the Act you will see that the definition of “disability” is:

      [B]roadly defined and is intended to include physical, sensory, intellectual and psychiatric impairment, mental illness or disorder, and provisions relating to the presence in the body of organisms causing or capable of causing disease. These provisions have broad application, for example, they are intended to ensure that persons with HIV/AIDS come within the definition of disability for the purposes of this Bill.

      Odd as it is to write; the statutory definition of “disability” means that, in relation to contagious “organisms capable of causing disease or illness”, everybody is disabled. Everybody falls into the category of people of who have had, do have or may in the future have influenza.

      The Act does not discriminate between pathogens. All previous, present, possible future or imputed “organisms capable of causing disease or illness” are treated the same way.

      Gay men were the prime target for protection under this part of the definition of disability but it was not just gay men at elevated risk from HIV. Haemophiliacs before HIV-screening of donated blood and intravenous recreational drug users were also at very serious risk of acquiring HIV. Then there were the unlucky: plenty of people who were not in any risk group were infected with HIV. Like Eve van Grafhorst.

      The Disability Discrimination Act prohibits some types of discrimination against all of them and everybody else who may in future be infected with HIV.

      What discrimination does the Disability Discrimination Act prohibit?
      Australian discrimination laws do not prohibit discrimination in the general sense because humans discriminate all the time. Vanilla, strawberry or chocolate? Blonde or brunette? Tall or short? Science, art or humanity? Mac or PC? Human discrimination is endless.

      Only some types of discrimination are prohibited by law in some situations.

      The Disability Discrimination Act prohibits discrimination against a person with a disability in relation to employment, education, access to public premises, accommodation, the sale of land, membership of clubs and participation in sporting activities. There is also a prohibition on seeking information about a disability in order to discriminate.

      For the same legal reason that a publican cannot say, “Gay men are not allowed into my pub because they might be infected with HIV” a publican also cannot say, “Unvaccinated people are not allowed into my pub because they might be infected with measles”.

      Nor is it valid for a State or Territory to pass a law to that effect—the Act binds them too.

      What about public health?
      Section 48 of the Disability Discrimination Act exempts discrimination “reasonably necessary to protect public health” where a person’s disability is an “infectious disease”.

      Being unvaccinated against any contagion is not an infectious disease—it’s just being unvaccinated—so the section 48 exemption cannot apply purely on the basis of a person’s vaccination status.

      Even if the section 48 exemption did apply there is still the limitation of “reasonably necessary to protect public health”; whatever that might mean in relation to employment, shopping, hospital access, public (including air) transport or a U2 concert.

      Why stop at Covid-19?
      Some businesses have already announced an intention to refuse access to patrons unvaccinated against Covid-19.

      Having recently reread Viruses, Plagues and History (1998) by Michael B. Oldstone of the Scripps Research Institute; your correspondent would be more concerned about patrons unvaccinated against SARS-CoV-1, measles, all of the haemorrhagic fevers, polio, bubonic plague, yellow fever, hantavirus and smallpox—they’re terrifying. There aren’t vaccines for some of them.

      Measles is much more contagious than Covid-19, about as deadly and complications can be profound. Before a measles vaccine in 1963 it killed 2,500,000+ million people a year and permanently disabled more; mostly aged under 5. Though off a historically very low base, measles deaths have increased by 50% since 2016. To protect the children only patrons vaccinated against measles should be permitted.

      Yellow fever is more deadly for people not of African genetic origin. It is only reasonably necessary to ban Caucasian and Asian people unvaccinated against yellow fever. That follows the science. If the section 48 public health exemption did apply, it would also follow the law..

      Smallpox is eradicated, so nobody is vaccinated against that these days, but some bodies buried in thawing permafrost may still harbour the virus. You cannot be too safe when it comes to something that nasty.

      Now add the overlay of millions of venues making these decisions. Some will overreact having read Professor Oldstone; others will take their vaccinology from Nicky Minaj.

      Then there is the provincialism displayed by the States and Territories during the pandemic. Any vaccination passport scheme must have legislative backing. That might be legislatively-backed bureaucratic orders; which may require a permanent state of public health emergency.

      Intra- and inter-jurisdictional day-to-day compliance with State and Territory vaccination passports will be complex. Luckily, there will be an app for that in each jurisdiction. No; I do not know who will access the app database in each jurisdiction now or in the future.

      In a federal system the legal problems are mind-boggling.

      Somebody will have their day in Court
      So far as your correspondent is able to tell—and keep in mind these days I’m more interested in gerberas than germs—no State or Territory has thought through their proposed breaches of the Disability Discrimination Act when it comes to SARS-CoV-2.

      No doubt some lawyer more interested in germs than gerberas will fight this out in the courts.

      For the moment though, keep in mind that some of the State and Territory laws and some restrictions applied by individual venues which limit access for unvaccinated people to public places will likely breach the Disability Discrimination Act.

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      Forrest Gardener

      I don’t know about their effectiveness but I don’t mind the forehead temperature tests.

      I certainly don’t want to be anywhere near some double injected person carrying a big viral load and being clueless about it.

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        MP

        Some businesses have already announced an intention to refuse access to patrons unvaccinated against Covid-19.

        Yeah I think they got that A about.
        I will be refusing business.

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          RossP

          Given even Pfizer has acknowledged the “vaccines” lose the effectiveness after 3-6 months, those that were double jabbed early on are now effectively unvaccinated.
          I can see this all going terribly wrong and a lot of people ending up with egg on their face after pushing these stupid draconian measures.

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            MP

            I think it is going exactly to plan.
            Non stop funds straight into a Pharma company’s account, they are now making “vaccines” for potential emerging disease.

            This really is the fight for our lives.

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            Vicki

            Yes – I was questioned by a fully vaccinated friend about this recently. She had absolutely no idea about how long they would last & whether she should have a booster. I told her 3-6 months efficacy & suggested she could also wait for the anti-virals which should be available by the end of the year or early next year.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      ” …unless there is certainty around vaccinations…”
      But he’s already got that certainty – the “vaccines” certainly do not stop you from becoming infected, and certainly do not stop you from spreading the infection. So accepting vaccinated people into shopping malls will just make them hotspots quite quickly.

      What more does he want?

      Cheers
      Dave

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        Serp

        It is extraordinary that such an astute trader as Solomon Lew is so deeply misinformed. Wait until we hit the eighty percent fully vaxed and the disasters experienced overseas become ours also.

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        MP

        So accepting vaccinated people into shopping malls will just make them hotspots quite quickly.

        I am fine with that.

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    OldOzzie

    ACT COVID-19 Update – 23 September 2021

    23 September 2021

    There have been 16 new cases of COVID-19 recorded in the ACT in the 24 hours to 8pm yesterday.

    Of these cases, seven (7) are linked to known cases or ongoing clusters. None of these cases were in quarantine during their infectious period, four (4) of these were essential workers who were infectious in the community for a period of time, seven (7) spent varying degrees of time in the community while infectious and five (5) remain under early investigation as to their time spent in the community.

    There are now 463 cases who have recovered with 27 in the past 24 hours. This means there are now 211 active cases associated with this outbreak.

    As of 9am this morning ACT Health continues to work with over 950 people who have self-identified as close contacts of ACT outbreaks.

    There are currently 12 patients in ACT hospitals, including two (2) in intensive care and both require ventilation.

    More than 2,600 tests were collected across the ACT yesterday, from both Government and private providers. There were 2,725 negative test results in the 24 hours to 9am today.

    Our vaccination efforts continue across the ACT with total vaccine doses administered at ACT Government Clinics now at 286,593.

    We have around 450 current exposure locations listed for the ACT. Canberrans are asked to keep up to date on new locations on the ACT COVID-19 website.

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      OldOzzie

      Meanwhile – Outbreak emerges at North Sydney’s Mater hospital

      A major cluster has emerged at the Mater Hospital at North Sydney, which has grown to include at least 17 Covid-19 cases.

      “At the time of this press conference, we have 11 confirmed cases for patients and six staff members, and one person who is a carer,” NSW deputy chief health officer Marianne Gale said.

      “It’s our understanding that upon becoming aware of those cases that the Mater Hospital commenced testing for patients and staff who might have been exposed and I understand that, at this stage, no further cases have been identified.”

      It comes as case numbers linked to the Liverpool Hospital in the city’s west reach new heights, with 29 cases.

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    David Maddison

    Most Australians don’t realise that their extreme covid restrictions make Australia the laughing stock of the world plus a source of alarm. Here, a US commentator talks about news coverage of Australian pro-freedom demonstrations.

    https://youtu.be/UyVQWmdePN0

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      el+gordo

      ‘ … make Australia the laughing stock of the world …’

      Not sure if that is quite accurate, some will praise us and others may throw scorn, history will decide whether Australia took Covid too seriously.

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      Forrest Gardener

      I went to Uni with a guy who looked just like that. In fact I might have been a guy who looked just like that.

      But having others use Australia as a laughing stock? Life’s too short to bother with the sneerers.

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      l read somewhere the other day that the American republicans are going to congress to put sanction’s on Australia for its treatment of its citizens apparently

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    David Maddison

    The Sheeple who support Dan Andrews are the huge and growing population of public serpents, retired public serpents, trade unionists esp. CFMMEU (well maybe not as of the last few days), a vast army of Leftist lawyers, rent-seekers, “teachers” and the students they indoctrinate, “renewables” investors, the unemployed and unemployable and those that never want to work, Antifa, BLM, Extinction Rebellion, Greens, the uneducated, the stupid and the brainwashed.

    After accounting for those, there are very few sound and rational people to oppose Andrews.

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      el+gordo

      The people will decide at the next election and he should win comfortably under the law and order banner.

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        David Maddison

        Law and order?

        I would have thought the worst and most economically and socially destructive covid mismanagement on the planet.

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        Forrest Gardener

        Predictions are hard. Especially predictions about the future.

        Of course an opposition in the parliament might help.

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          Serp

          That’s been the problem for the last two elections in Victoria, the absence of opposition.

          Notwithstanding having brazened out the Red Shirts malfeasance and having been obliged reluctantly to release the Belt and Road MOU Labor increased its majority at the last election.

          By now we should be receiving hints from the opposition, letterbox pamphlets and such, but there’s nothing. So it’s to be a third instance of the opposition running dead.

          And soon all the borders will have gates installed with scanners to check cargo for concealed citizens and escape will be impossible without paying criminal cartels. Live and learn eh, it’s never too late…

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      Forrest Gardener

      Quite so. You’d think they’d be winning.

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        Hanrahan

        Dan could fire on the crowd with real bullets and get reelected in Victoriastan, a state of forelock tugging sheeple.

        Victorians are welcome in the north, just leave your politics behind.

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      Hanrahan

      When push comes to shove CFMMEU members will still vote for him. They would never vote lib as long as they are on the green side of the grass.

      Maybe not a good analogy, they will likely vote labor twice then.

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    David Maddison

    Use of “that that” in Shakespeare:

    1) “Pursuing that that flies, and flying what pursues” (Merry Wives of Windsor);

    2) “Who is that that spake?” (The Two Gentlemen of Verona);

    3) “Who’s that that bears the sceptre?” (King Henry VIII).

    Grammatically it is explained (not my words):

    QUOTE Double that occurs because the first that is the subordinating that, and the second that is a demonstrative pronoun or adjectival that. That is, if you subordinate a clause that begins with pronominal or adjectival that with that, you get that that, as in “you know that that that that from the previous sentence was different from the one in this sentence.”

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    David Maddison

    Repairing a cracked tractor transmission case in Pakistan. I have never seen something preheated with burning animal dung prior to brazing before. An amazing repair given the primitive circumstances.

    https://youtu.be/u4H5AssEKqk

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      Hanrahan

      What was he doing there? You can’t weld cast iron so was he building up an alloy around the crack while heating a large area and then slowly cooling to avoid cracking again? I see no reason to doubt the repair.

      Me no welder. 🙂

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        David Maddison

        They were brazing, not welding.

        Cast iron can be welded but it’s difficult.

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          robert rosicka

          I’ve yet to watch the video but cast iron can be welded successfully by welding or brazing and it’s best to preheat first so cow dung is just a heat source and would work , interestingly low H2O mig wire does an amazing job on cast iron .

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      Graeme#4

      Always fascinating David – keep them coming!

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    OldOzzie

    Delingpole: Rubber Bullets for Public Health — Australia Goes Full Fascist

    Police in Melbourne, Australia, have reportedly been firing pepper spray and rubber bullets at men, women and children protesting against compulsory coronavirus vaccine passports.

    Some of the injuries they have caused are hideous, with at least one person nearly blinded, and a woman of 70 knocked to the floor with a broken hip and pepper sprayed in her face, as ABC News reported.

    But don’t worry, it’s OK: it’s all being done for the good of Australia’s health.

    The latest confrontations between police (heavily armed, dressed like Robocop) and demonstrators have taken place at the city’s Shrine of Remembrance, as local outlet Nine News reports.

    It’s hard to get an accurate impression from Australia’s notoriously woke TV channels. (ABC, their national broadcaster, makes CNN look like Fox News).

    But social media is abundant with footage of protests which have been taking place in cities across Australia in the last few days, including violent confrontations with the police, as Breitbart News reported.

    Melbourne police have sought to disguise the extent of the protests by ordering a ban on helicopter flights so the rally cannot be filmed from overhead, under tight new rules that temporarily shut down the city’s airspace.

    The restrictions from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority, made at the request of Victoria Police, are effective until Sunday, the Melbourne AGE reports.

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      David Maddison

      They have to maim or kill a few people to save them.

      That’s how socialism works.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Fancy using pepper spray as an offensive weapon. Or firing on crowds. The police have completely lost the plot.

      And no doubt the floggings will continue until morale improves.

      But isn’t it interesting to see how the protesters have learned tactics from antifa. No leader. No demands. Just appear out of nowhere and disappear just as quickly.

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        OriginalSteve

        One thing as has been demonstrated in the past in Oz, is that once people have had enough, I wouldn’t want to be a plod….

        I abhor violence, but I cant speak for the rest of the population.

        I also think that Victorias resident China puppet ruler is deliberately pushing the population and society so that it breaks. The aim is to crash society so it can be built back up in a hellscape of communism.

        The best thing we can do is smile, take the punishment and not break. If we outlast these evil jackals, we win.

        The thing about the Devil and his dupes, is they eventually overplay thier hand…and then they are cactus…

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          PeterS

          That’s how it usually works but there will come a time when the devil, the antichrist and the false prophet will together have the whole world under their thumbs and the only way to stop them is for Jesus to return and show who’s boss. I wish I could be around to see that day even though I would have to experience a few years of hell here on earth. It will be worth it to see the last two thrown into the lake of fire and the devil chained up in the abyss for a long period before it’s his turn to be thrown into the lake of fire.

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    David Maddison

    If you want unbiased news may I suggest an Australian YouTube channel called “6 News”. It seems to be run by adolescent kids and it is the best reported news you are likely to see.

    News as it used to be before the media became the propaganda arm of the Left.

    https://youtube.com/c/SIXNewsAustralia

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    David Maddison

    They have to maim or kill a few people to save them.

    That’s how socialism works.

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      David Maddison

      That’s good news and a surprise and it restores a little confidence in the court system in favour of free speech however it appears only to be a temporary stay of the order issued by the Vicstapo.

      The matter is still to be referred for a full hearing.

      In Vicdanistan it appears that the police are active in suppressing free speech and making their own political decisions when they should be only following lawful and moral instructions.

      I say “moral” instructions because I am constantly reminding public serpents that “just following orders” is not acceptable and if they commit atrocities of any kind, whether on Dan Andrews’ or his executives’ direct orders or not, they WILL one day be held accountable just like the war criminals at Nuremberg.

      Never forget to remind public serpents of that.

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        OriginalSteve

        The chairman appears to be a Chinese puppet ruler…..hidden deals for 4 years, chinese anti democratic Tianamen Square style crushing of protests and a population under house arrest….

        The China way….Lets call it what it is…

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    David Maddison

    Just imagine how bad Dan Andrews would be if he was not in a country where people still remember what democracy and freedom were once like?

    I have no doubt he would be having his private army, the Vicstapo “disappear” people and they would willingly oblige.

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    redress

    Have a confession to make. Video I posted above is actually from August rally, but is being promoted as being from today, and I got caught……just goes to show, measure twice cut once…..my bad and I apologise for the misinformation.

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    Peter+Fitzroy

    sun cable is scaling up its NT solar plant, while Mt Piper will close early.

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      David Maddison

      Business must be good.

      Will they be returning the subsidies they charged to consumers?

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      yarpos

      should be more of it, the sooner the inevitable failure and rethink is triggered the better

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      Dave

      Peter you say
      “Mt Piper will close early”

      It will shut in 2nd half of 2040 (that’s a little bit of time left)
      But was scheduled to shut in early 2042!
      WOW
      Early is 13 months over the next 19 years!

      China Light and Power Company, Limited of Hong Kong (now China) owns Mt Piper!
      China Light & Power have already received $50 Million off taxpayers just to do studies?
      Their MISSION STATEMENT on CLIMATE CHANGE:

      1. Putting a cap on carbon intensity through stopping the building of green-field power stations using traditional coal-fired technologies
      2. Reducing emissions through waste management and supporting CO2 community reduction schemes
      3. Investing in low and zero emission technology with support for research and development
      4. Helping customers manage their own footprint through energy efficient products and services, allowing them to offset emissions

      Meaning in AUSSIE!

      Charge the crappie out of the customers bills
      Then tell them to stop their A/C units in summer & winter!

      All in the name of PROFITS for the CHINA LIGHT & POWER COMPANY!

      To save the planet Peter, you really believe this stuff?

      And they have NO net zero by 2050 Peter.
      It is this on their TARGET.

      “Quoted as their main reduction target, greenhouse gas is aimed to be reduced by 60% by 2050, based on a 1990 emissions baseline for the National Electricity Market (NEM) and EnergyAustralia’s market share of the NEM in 2050.”

      Such a loving Greenie Group making $ BILLIONS across the globe!

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    PeterS

    When you see groups publishing about the next pandemic you know the current one is just a dry run for training purposes.

    The SPARS Pandemic 2025-2028: A Futuristic Scenario to Facilitate Medical Countermeasure Communication

    This is a hypothetical scenario designed to illustrate the public health risk communication
    challenges that could potentially emerge during a naturally occurring infectious disease outbreak
    requiring development and distribution of novel and/or investigational drugs, vaccines,
    therapeutics, or other medical countermeasures.
    The infectious pathogen, medical countermeasures, characters, news media excerpts, social media
    posts, and government agency responses described herein are entirely fictional.

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    PeterS

    Interesting observation by someone here: Pfizer & the Numbers

    Number needed to vaccinate is 142 for Pfizer. (Moderna is 88 but I’ll use Pfizer for the demonstration).
    So with Pfizer you need to vaccinate 117 people to prevent one CASE of covid. The current survival rate of covid is 99.86%, so approximately 1 death per thousand cases. So the NNV to prevent one covid DEATH is 117,000.
    In the first 6 months of 2021, 134 million people were fully vaccinated in the US. VAERS listed 10,335 vaccine related deaths by that point, about 56 per day. Vaers has been proven to be underreported but let’s use it as a very rough conservative estimate.
    So the 134 million / 10355 = 12,940 … one death per 12940 covid vaccinations.
    So if you vaccinate 117,000 people to save one covid death, 117,000/12940 = 9.04 people will have died from the vaccine.
    This is likely on the low end and also doesn’t include all the non-mortality vaccine side effects. It also doesn’t include the non mortality effects of covid either.

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      yarpos

      Ah but they will have died in an orderly manner and not overwhelmed the medical system which is perpetually on the verge of collapse despite not having much Influenza or Pneumonia to deal with any more.

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      Hanrahan

      So if you vaccinate 117,000 people to save one covid death, 117,000/12940 = 9.04 people will have died from the vaccine.

      Not listed is the percentage of “long covid”. Somehow I doubt that is a high percentage but I’m sure those suffering have a gripe.
      Also not mentioned is the number of adverse reactions to the jab that do not result in death but in permanent disability. Losing a limb is permanent and the heart does not repair itself either nor can a surgeon do so.

      As Eric Bogle said in The Band Played Waltzing Matilda

      Then a big Turkish shell
      knocked me @rse over tit
      And when I awoke in me hospital
      bed
      And saw what it had done
      Christ I wished I was dead
      Never knew there was worse
      things than dying.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g57gR3Ne4Qk

      It is a tragedy when these things happen in war, criminal when done in peace.

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    Ned Kelly

    Detailed contents of the vaxxes:

    https://nobulart.com/covid-19-vaccine-ingredients/

    African sleeping sickness??
    Interesting, considering what Judy Mikovits said a week ago re the vaxx antidote.

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    Tilba+Tilba

    Two vaccine hubs forced to close in Melbourne, when “Anti-Vax Protesters” spit on and throw water on health workers.

    There are no words to describe how despicable this behaviour is. Wouldn’t it be ironic if the perpetrators died of Covid-19 – alone, stressed, and with lungs filled with gunk.

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      Speaking of despicable perpetrators. There are those that banned ivermectin leaving a state trapped in lockdowns and deaths which probably could be prevented. But I’m not so crass or petty that I would wish it upon them or their loved ones.

      Your cup of hate runneth over…

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      David Maddison

      Tilba Tilba, do you know that really did happen or are you just following what the lamestream media told you?

      And how do you know it wasn’t a propaganda exercise perpetrated by VicPol operatives embedded into the crowd (which has been observed to happen).

      That protesters would do that doesn’t pass the BS test. It seems like orchestrated propaganda to me.

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      MP

      I checked, your link does not support your claim.

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    David Maddison

    I have noticed in Melbdanistan that almost all traffic lights now have a dome camera attached to them. These are not speed and red light cameras, at least not the traditional design. Does anyone know what they’re for?

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      Old Goat

      David,
      Good question – I noticed that too. No fanfare or attention drawn to their installation too.

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      Environment Sceptic

      They are to keep us safe?

      They are a kind of smart city solution as far as i can see. They are everywhere

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xGocyOJiY

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        Environment Sceptic

        A final solution? We have the techonology

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          OriginalSteve

          A workmate who worked with facial recognition technology said as far back as 2014 , most states have huge numbers of hidden number plate recognition cameras.

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            Environment Sceptic

            Hi Steve.
            Since 2020 i have Dahua cameras and some Dark Fighter Hikvision speed domes and are a lot of fun to play with and remarkably inexpensive compared to simple motion detection cameras..
            Also testing some Ai Network video recorders (NVR)
            Gosh, it can tell if i have a mask on or if i am just sporting a beard 🙂 , clothing colour, whether i have a bag and the colour of the bag, if i am sad, angry, confused or disgusted, car model, number-plate and on and on, and on.

            No more having to look at footage for hours of spiderwebs or insects and birds triggering the camera…

            And so now cameras can do the whole lot on their own, being number plate recognition, face recognition, and a plethora of other functions all by themselves with a few gig of memory to store all the action for standalone functionality, or cameras with no Ai facial recognition and other can be streamed into a Ai network recorder that does all the Ai for the camera remotely.

            For the unitiated, a camera can be set up to record a busy street corner, and then the recorded footage is fed into an Ai capable hardware device so that the entire footage of two or three days is searched for a particular face, or to take snapshots of every face in the recording and then to catalogue them all into mask wearers an non mask wearers for example. This is all very straight forward in the most simple setup.

            Or in another example one could take the exact same footage and look for orange orange holdens or fords, or look for a car with the exact number plate being searched for and find it….

            most states have huge numbers of hidden number plate recognition cameras.

            And so even if the camera is really old, a simple upgrade would render the footage so that any kind of info could be extracted by an Ai capable device from the footage therof, numberplate, car colour, make and model, female or male driver, faces of pedestrians and any other peripheral information besides the number plate…..and to top all this off, the footage and locations are all shared and integrated so in effect all the cameras are connected and what one sees, the all seeing system sees/is accesible collectively.

            Some effective tutorials on what these things do at the most basic home handy man level..
            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAe8-iSHHwFruTaHiZ5dLiA/videos

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    R.B.

    Not climate change, warming or cooling, related. Just a whinge about the media. Murdoch’s News gets vilified and the ABC’s bloated budget justified to fight what has been hijacked by leftwing editors. ABC lite in effect.

    I threw my 10c worth in on the ICC changing batsman to batter.

    It’s superficial. The reporting of the above is what irritates me. I don’t object because I don’t want women to play. My gripe is we have idiots fixing the world’s ills.

    “Traditionally, many writers have used man and words derived from it to designate any or all of the human race regardless of sex. In fact, this is the oldest use of the word. In Old English the principal sense of man was “a human,” and the words wer and wyf (or wæpman and wifman) were used to refer to “a male human” and “a female human” respectively. But in Middle English man displaced wer as the term for “a male human,” while wyfman (which evolved into present-day woman) was retained for “a female human.” Man also continued to carry its original sense of “a human,” resulting in an asymmetric arrangement that many criticize as sexist.”
    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/man
    Basically, populations of fighting men were what historians wrote about so ‘man’ and ‘men’ started to be used to mean an adult male. Sticking to batsman and pointing this out might have been better. I would even play along with a push to go back to wer and wyf.

    Rejected for what? Comments that were more deriding of the decision without any reasoning get though, to show readers that only idiots object?

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    el+gordo

    Mt Piper to close early.

    ‘Another Australian coal-fired power plant is set to shut its doors earlier than expected, as the national energy market’s shift away from fossil fuels towards cleaner generation gathers speed.

    ‘Workers at the 1400-megawatt Mt Piper plant near Lithgow, NSW, were told on Thursday afternoon that the generator’s closure would be brought forward to 2040 at the latest as owner EnergyAustralia steps up its decarbonisation targets and retreats from thermal coal … (SMH)

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    Steve of Cornubia

    The excellent Dr John Campbell (UK) has been producing Covid-19 talks on YouTube for many months and his most recent covers India’s deployment of Ivermectin.

    Little does he know that his decades of rational, credible and well-informed medical history is about to be destroyed. Actually, he does know how controversial this is, though it shouldn’t be, but it seems he puts providing sound public information above his personal well-being:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9cjy3Rydc

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    Serge Wright

    With all of the pressure from both abroad and domestically on our government to commit climate economic suicide, it’s worth considering the bigger picture and it’s not pretty. What we are witnessing is a rapid political shift towards global authoritarianism and away from freedom and liberty. This shift is being driven by left wing ideologues within our institutions and in government. In the USA we can see the cleanout well under way, with the military purge of Republicans as noted by Tucker this week, the continued push to divide society by race and the opening of their southern border for everyone and anyone to enter. The final nail will be the 3.5 trillion money printing exercise to create economic hell. This is all on top of COVID which mysteriously appeared as Trump looked to reverse the slide. Tough times will be ahead and those of us that support personal freedom and liberty will need to stick together and work together.

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      OriginalSteve

      All we have to say to the Elite is to get stuffed, and unless they shoot us all, we win.

      They rely on fear to scare you into taking the killer vaccine, thats why there is non stop vaccine propaganda on every tv station every night.

      I can prove covid is a huge lue – turn off your tv for a week, and see how the plandemic just disappears……

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    R.B.

    The Australian Energy Regulator

    Hornsdale in court for inability to provide contingency services as offered
    The Australian Energy Regulator (AER) has instituted proceedings in the Federal Court against Hornsdale Power Reserve (HPR) for alleged breaches of the National Electricity Rules.

    Australian Financial Reveue

    Tesla big battery in SA welched on vital services: AER

    Reuters

    Australia sues Neoen for lack of power from its Tesla battery reserve

    And Their ABC

    South Australia’s big Tesla battery sued for not helping during Queensland coal power station failure

    It will be interesting to see if it makes the SA ABC news tonight. No mention of it on Ch7 news.

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      Kalm Keith

      Well spotted.

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      R.B.

      Nothing on the ABC news. If you Google, you can find it, but it’s not more important than ranting on about the need to stop the curtailing of ICAC by government, an independent commission against corruption.

      For example, a government member declared the wrong address on his electoral enrolment. He got the building address right but typed in the wrong unit number. Yet this is what will be curtailed. The investigation for one off petty mistakes and persecuting innocent people using the process.

      Widow of police officer says ICAC must be reformed, as chief Ann Vanstone QC says proposed legislative changes would ‘cripple’ its operations
      The widow of an SA Police chief superintendent who took his own life during an ICAC investigation – but was never accused of corruption – says the anti-corruption body must be reformed.

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        R.B.

        Did I not paste in the headline?

        Did I not point out that you can find the article on their site, but it’s not important enough to be in a news bulletin? If you read everything on their site, then yiu will be informed of it, along with “Shiara is legally blind. That gave her a different experience of the earthquake”

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          Serp

          You didn’t provide a link; I would have requested it but Gee Aye went the extra units of distance and saved us all the bother.

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    OldOzzie

    They Intend to Destroy America

    If you’re thinking that Biden’s policies are destroying America, you’re right. And the worst part is that this is exactly what Democrats want.

    Richard Andrew Cloward and Francis Fox Piven were both Columbia University professors and long-time members of the Democrat Socialist Party. They were the authors of the Cloward-Piven strategy (paraphrased from Cloward–Piven strategy – Wikipedia):

    Overload the American public welfare system and create a crisis that will bankrupt the nation, leaving no choice but to adopt a socialist/communist system of government.

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      PeterS

      Yes those who are aware of the situation know that Biden is doing an excellent job at heading the destruction of the US. Don’t forget he’s only the figure head, not the driver. He doesn’t even have the intelligence to engineer a rumpus party. Others are doing most of the work. Fauci is just one of many. Also, don’t forget that a lot of Americans are still supporting their policies; for now; and the biggest supporters are big business and their associated social media platforms. At the same time all Western governments are spending like crazy to appease the people. Then there is the extraordinary pace of deploying all sorts of technologies to control the masses, methods that only a few years ago if implemented would have sparked a revolution. I give it another year and we will see whether the people give in to total tyranny, or we win our freedoms back somehow. The current stalemate situation can’t drag on forever.

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    OldOzzie

    Biden’s war on the American military continues

    There’s a viciousness to Biden’s approach that is completely inconsistent with seeking to protect our troops. This is a man and an administration that revel in power and wants to squash all dissent—especially reasoned dissent.

    (Are we describing Dictator Dan?)

    Revolver Exclusive: Navy Commander Warns of National Security Threat from Mandatory Vaccination

    An officer with the U.S. Navy is warning of a full-blown “national security threat” if the military moves ahead with its planned universal COVID-19 vaccination mandate, in a paper obtained exclusively by Revolver News.

    In a memorandum released on Monday, Biden Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin announced his intention to require a COVID-19 vaccination for all servicemembers by mid-September, or immediately should any COVID vaccines clear FDA approval (the vaccines are currently only authorized for emergency use). Servicemen who refuse to submit to the vaccine will potentially face court martials, prison time, and even less-than-honorable discharge from the service.

    If that plan goes ahead, though, CDR J.H. Furman warns the results could conceivably be catastrophic.

    “The forced vaccination of all military personnel with the present COVID-19 vaccines may compromise U.S. national security due to the unknown extent of serious vaccine complications,”writes Furman. “Further study is needed before committing the Total Force to one irreversible experimental group. Initial reports leave more concern for the COVID-19 vaccinations than the virus itself for the (at present) exceptionally healthy military population.”

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    OldOzzie

    Biden exposes his dementia to the world

    Opening of the United Nations General Assembly. President Biden dropped in to show the entire world what we have long known inside the United States — that he is suffering from dementia and diminishing mental capacity.

    As Andrea Widburg noted, Biden cannot even so much as say “hello” to Boris Johnson without reading it first from his cheat sheet.

    This was likewise evident the day before when Biden met with the U.N. secretary-general. Biden had a televised meet ‘n’ greet session with the secretary-general during which he only spoke for about two minutes on general themes, and couldn’t get through it without his cheat sheets.

    It only went downhill from there the following day, when Biden literally addressed the world assembled at the opening meeting of the General Assembly, figuratively pulling down his own pants and exposing his shortcomings to all nations.

    This was likewise evident the day before when Biden met with the U.N. secretary-general. Biden had a televised meet ‘n’ greet session with the secretary-general during which he only spoke for about two minutes on general themes, and couldn’t get through it without his cheat sheets.

    Bada-bing! Way to go, Brainless One! Make sure you place your dementia on stage literally for the entire world to see!

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      Environment Sceptic

      What if nothing Romains of Romania?

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      James Murphy

      There have been reports of vandalism and people threatening workers at vaccination centres in France. Whatever ones views on wu-flu vaccinations, there’s no excuse for this sort of behaviour. Mind you, it’s also hard to trust the reporting about such events too, given that the media is solidly behind the government on this topic.

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        Hanrahan

        there’s no excuse for this sort of behaviour.

        One has every right to resist. As Chris Cuomo said: “Please, show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful,”

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          James Murphy

          There can be resistance without violence, though I also know there’s a time and a place for being much less than polite and peaceful.. One could say that staff at vaccination centres are valid targets and deserve what they get, but I am not so sure. perhaps it’s subjective?

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          Ian

          “One has every right to resist. As Chris Cuomo said: “Please, show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful,””

          Good for you. I hope you applied that attitude to the BLM protests that were taking place over the death of George Floyd.

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            Hanrahan

            It was regarding the BLM protests that Cuomo said that. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

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              Ian

              Thank for the info.

              “What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”

              Indeed . It is good to see right wing rioters, who Barnaby Joyce denounced on the 7.30 report yesterday, getting the same treatment that is handed out to the left.

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        MP

        Funny these centres appear to of been attacked all at the same time, around the world.

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      James Murphy

      it’s interesting that countries like Romania and Russia are leading the pack when it comes to people ignoring the government, and/or the government giving in to the people. ok, so Romania is free and open like anywhere else in Europe, and Bucharest seemed very dynamic and progressive (in the good sense of the word) when I was there in 2019.

      the French are usually great at ignoring stupid laws they don’t like, but it seems they’ve fallen down on the job this time.

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        another ian

        There is trhat interesting example of the Mayor of Moscoiw’s “vaccination passports” to enter businesses like resteraunts.

        So people brought their own and partied outside them and didn’t enter – or spend. So pressure from the businesses and – – .

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    James Murphy

    At the risk of offending someone, I couldn’t resist paraphrasing the old joke: Why do police in Victoria travel in groups of 3?
    One can read, one can write, and the 3rd is there to report on the 2 subversives.

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    another ian

    “This Expose article was excellent. It was long, developed a bit slow, with a strong convincing finish.
    https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/29/midazolam-was-used-to-prematurely-end-the-lives-of-thousands-who-you-were-told-had-died-of-covid-19/

    Via Chiefio

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      Fran

      A very disturbing longish read. There were numerous reports also of care home residents becoming confused and agitated when they were confined to room, all social activities stopped and family visits prohibited. It is rumoured here in BC that the use of oral sedative drugs was greatly increased. However, it is a big step up to injected fast acting sedatives like midazolam. Because of a short duration of action, it is usually used in a situation where constant as-needed top ups are given by a constantly present attendant. The huge doses in the doc suggest that midazolam was used to lay out someone who would not be checked for some hours.

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    another ian

    “S1 Spike Protein Lung Injury & Long Covid / Long Vaccination Symptoms”

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/09/23/s1-spike-protein-lung-injury-long-covid-long-vaccination-symptoms/

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      OldOzzie

      The treatment protocol is remarkably brief – just 4-6 weeks.

      First, immune labs are taken and then 3 drugs are given. (The fact that none of these drugs have been used in ME/CFS should remind us how vast the medical drug toolkit is and how many possibilities it holds.)

      Drugs

      – CCR5 antagonist – Maraviroc (Selzentry (US), Celsentri (EU)) is in an antiretroviral drug used in combination with other drugs to treat HIV.

      – Statins – by inhibiting fracktalkine, it stops the monocyte cells from attaching to endothelial cells on the blood vessels.

      – Ivermectin -an immunomodulator and anti-parasitic drug is used because of its persistent antiviral properties. It also affects cell membranes.

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    OldOzzie

    Mark Levin’s bestseller book, “American Marxism,” has sold one million copies in its first ten weeks of sale, according to Threshold Editions, a division of Simon & Schuster.

    Threshold Editions announced on Thursday that Levin’s #1 blockbuster bestseller, American Marxism, has sold one million copies across all formats — print books, ebooks, and e-audiobooks — in only ten weeks of being on sale.

    “There’s a massive movement that’s all but ignored galvanizing against the tyranny swirling around us,” Levin told Breitbart News. “Americans love their country, unlike the ruling class and their surrogates, and they’re fed up. There will be push back. It’s already here and growing.”

    Additionally, the October 3, 2021 New York Times bestseller list marks the book’s 10th week at #1. “American Marxism” also debuted at #1 on Publishers Weekly, The Wall Street Journal, and USA Today bestseller lists, where it still remains in the top 10, Threshold added.

    “We applaud Mark Levin for his compelling scholarship and work,” Threshold deputy publisher Jennifer Long said. “Bookscan reports American Marxism is currently the top-selling nonfiction book of 2021, and we anticipate it staying high on bestseller lists through the rest of the year.”

    Threshold also noted that all nine of Levin’s books have been New York Times bestsellers, adding that the nationally syndicated radio host has authored seven consecutive #1 New York Times bestsellers:

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    Leigh

    The only thing to remember with the ABC is you need to get the story before the revisions are made to fit the narrative.

    Initially, they reported all 5 of the health workers were fully vaccinated. Now it is 97% of all staff at the hospital have had at least 1 jab. Sort of changes the narrative!

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    OldOzzie

    EXCLUSIVE: New emails reveal Hunter Biden asked for $2 million plus ‘success fees’ to help unfreeze Libyan assets

    Two previously unpublished emails sent by business contacts of Hunter Biden indicate that the president’s son requested an annual retainer of $2 million to help recover billions in Libyan assets frozen by the Obama administration.

    The emails, obtained by Insider during reporting on an unrelated matter, are not connected to the controversial emails from Hunter Biden’s laptop, which his supporters have claimed were distributed as part of a disinformation campaign. And while it appears from the new emails that the Libya deal was never consummated, the documents offer a window into the mechanics of Beltway influence peddling, and the stock that was put in Biden’s political connections — particularly his relationship with his father, who was vice president at the time.

    Per phone conversation I met with No 2 son. He wants $2 per year retainer + success fees. He wants to hire his own people – it can be close circle of people for confidentiality. His dad is deciding to run or not.

    His positives are he is Chairman of UN World Food Program, son of No 2 who has Libya file, access to State, Treasury, business partner SofS Secretary of State J. John Forbes K Kerry son and since he travels with dad he is connected everywhere in Europe and Asia where M. Q. Muammar Qaddafi and LIA Libya Investment Authority had money frozen. He said he has access to highest level in PRC China, he can help there.

    His negatives are that he is alcoholic, drug addict – kicked out of U.S. Army for cocaine, chasing low class hookers, constantly needs money-liquidity problems and many more headaches.

    We should meet in Gstraad or London to decide next steps.

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    PeterS

    I like this comment by Voxday and I agree with him. I don’t agree with everything he says but on this one he hits the nail on the head.

    Anyone over the age of 30 who is comfortable is a conservative, regardless of his ideology. And what a conservative is, at heart, is someone who will tolerate any evil that does not threaten to upset the order in which he lives.
    The young, on the other hand, do not fear chaos because they are not comfortable, but because they are too callow and stupid to comprehend what discomfort actually is.
    Even the most brilliant minds shy away from any chaos that could threaten the comfort of their order, no matter how inevitable it is.

    https://voxday.net/2021/09/23/comfort-chaos-and-conservatives/

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    OldOzzie

    ICYMI: Must-See Photo

    a picture of Liz Cheney? so what?

    I must admit it took me a moment to realise it was President Bush’s Face – Great Troll By President Donald Trump

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    OldOzzie

    WATCH – FDA Worker Recommends Blow Darts for Vaccinating Black People

    Project Veritas’ second Covid-19 vaccination video seems like a comedy but ultimately isn’t very funny. In the video, FDA economist Taylor Lee calls for vaccinating black people with “blow darts” so many times you’ll wonder if he is he joking or not. When the Project Veritas undercover reporter suggests that blow darts might remind black folks of slaves being rounded up in Africa, Lee suggests blow-darting white people first so that black folks can’t claim “racism.”

    Lee, in what appears to be several meetings with the undercover journalist, also suggests handling non-vaccinated people in [email protected] ways, including identifying the unvaxxed “like, with a [email protected] star” and going door-to-door to force vaccinations.

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    OldOzzie

    NSW to ditch coal power by 2040 with final plant to close early

    The final NSW coal power plant will be shut by 2040 at the latest after EnergyAustralia’s decision to bring forward the closure date of its Mt Piper facility by at least two years in a bid to hit new green climate targets.

    The power giant was due to run Mt Piper until 2042, but will accelerate its retirement after vowing to be out of coal by 2040 and conceded the date could come forward again into the 2030s.

    “We will be out of coal by 2040. Could it be earlier? Yes, and if it’s earlier it’s because we’re going to get a better outcome for customers, communities and our workers by being earlier,” EnergyAustralia chief executive Mark Collette told The Australian.

    The move underscores an accelerating switch away from coal despite the fossil fuel meeting 70 per cent of national electricity demand. Power companies are under pressure from investors and financiers to dramatically boost their plans to cut pollution even as the pathway for phasing out fossil fuels remains highly contested.

    Challenges to the future of coal have piled up this week with AGL Energy stunned by a major shareholder climate backlash, three of Victoria’s coal operators including EnergyAustralia and AGL hit with legal action from Environment Victoria and even China declaring it will no longer build coal projects overseas.

    Energy ministers will meet on Friday to thrash out a contentious energy reform dubbed ‘‘Coal-Keeper’’ which critics, including Victoria and the ACT, argue will prop up coal at the expense of cutting emissions.
    READ MORE:Coal still has a future: Soul Patts CEO|China coal cull won’t hurt us, says Pitt|AGL feels heat on climate vote|China’s Xi commits to stop building coal plants abroad

    “I can see all the state governments saying with one eye that OK coal is on the way out, but what is coming in? It’s bumpy in that the policy is not consistent across the nation and states are taking different actions in different ways,” Mr Collette said.

    While NSW coal power will end by 2040, Victoria’s Loy Yang A is set to run until 2048, while Queensland has the most modern plants in the country.

    Australia’s energy ministers at the August meeting gave initial backing to a controversial new payment incentive to keep coal power generation in Australia’s electricity system, swatting away renewable investors who demanded they reject the plan.

    NSW has given in principle support to federal Energy Minister Angus Taylor but asked for the ability to opt out of the scheme if its plans for major renewable energy zones and building 2 gigawatts of long duration storage by 2030 are met.

    The 1400 megawatt Mt Piper plant, 25km from Lithgow in NSW’s central west, can meet the energy needs of 1.2 million homes or 12 per cent of the state’s energy supply.

    The facility will be the last coal plant standing, with AGL Energy’s Liddell and Bayswater stations due to close in 2023 and 2035 respectively while Trevor St Baker’s Vales Point and Origin Energy’s Eraring will start shutting units at the end of this decade.

    EnergyAustralia earlier this year brought forward the closure date of its Yallourn plant in Victoria by four years to 2028, after a secret deal was hatched with the Victorian government to subsidise its operation.

    Still, a mix of pumped hydro, batteries and gas will all form options to replace the lost Mt Piper capacity, according to EnergyAustralia, citing its 350MW Wooreen battery in Victoria’s Latrobe Valley, pumped hydro at Mt Piper and Queensland’s Kidston and the Tallawarra gas plant in NSW.

    “We fully expect the rise of renewables will continue to be very strong, with lots of solar and lots of wind, but neither of those forms of generation come with controllable capacity. Coal comes with emissions but it comes with reliability. Today, that reliability is what is the bedrock of the system,” Mr Collette said.

    “It’s a little bit unknown exactly what will be the bedrock of the system in the future. It could be pumped hydro and batteries, it could be different forms of generation. Coal gives an option until we’ve got those newer forms of generation.”

    Coal facilities are increasingly having to switch off during daytime hours when high solar supplies undercut them on price.

    NSW Energy Minister Matt Kean has been warning the state’s coal plants will exit early as the fossil fuel struggles to compete.

    It’s expected NSW will look to negotiate directly with coal plant owners like Mt Piper on potential underwriting deals to ensure coal remains in the system.

    EnergyAustralia plans to reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

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      Lance

      If NSW is foolish enough to actually implement this plan, then NSW will have an economy on par with Zimbabwe and a social cohesion and stability on par with Somalia.

      Would book makers take bets on this situation? Seriously. This is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of.

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    el+gordo

    Yesterday it was 20 degrees in Hobart, extremes in weather are a sign of global cooling.

    ‘The cold snap is being brought by the high-pressure system in the west and a cold front moving through, dragging up cold air from the south which generates gusty winds.

    “It’s quite unusual to see snowfall down to sea level, even during winter for Tasmania,” senior forecaster Simon Louis said. “It will feel like a return to winter for the day.”

    ‘The BoM says Hobart could see “a few centimetres” of snow on the ground, while the central parts of the state could experience up to 20 centimetres of snow.’ (Weather Zone)

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    PeterS

    Has anyone managed to get a copy of the book at the site below? People outside of the US and Canada can’t purchase it as yet. Looks like a worthy one to read.
    https://www.wearetheprey.com/

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    PeterS

    I now find I can’t avoid watching more of RT News in the US in preference to Sky News to get as much of the real news as possible. Sky News is becoming more and more like the ABC, apart from a few programs like Outsiders. I wonder how long they will last. RT News on the other hand at least has some semblance of the real news. Ironic really given it’s Russian roots.

    In fact it’s the only mainstream channel defending the rights of US whistle-blowers and doesn’t frequently spew out the lies of emission reductions by way of renewables. At times of course it will have some Russian bias but to be honest it’s better than watching the typical leftist BS on Sky News that appears to be on the increase albeit not as left as the ABC.

    Of course I will use discernment as I don’t really trust any mainstream news service. For now though RT News is so refreshing compared to the likes of Sky News, who all they appear to talk about most of the time is COVID-19.

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      another ian

      Chiefio has been doing this for quite a while

      IIRC his overseas list includes RT, Al Jaz, one in Europe (France 24 IIRC) and a few in US.

      He notes that you need to strain out the favourite leanings in anything involving their national interest but that you end up with a better picture of the rest of the world

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    PeterS

    This significant news has been neglected. Monica Smit is free aster spending 22 days in jail for not reason at all other than to speak her mind.
    https://xyz.net.au/2021/09/monica-smit-is-free/

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    PeterS

    I haven’t watched the Keiser Report for years. They were too way out back then. The world has caught up to them and now they sound “normal”. How ironic.
    Diplomacy is back! NOT!

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      PeterS

      Max hasn’t changed much. Still blurts out the occasional stupid comments amongst the good ones. Stacy hasn’t changed much either. Still sounds the more intelligent person of the two.

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      PeterS

      It talks about a shortage of CO2! Hahaha!

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        PeterS

        That’s just one example of many why it’s so refreshing to watch RT News compared to Sky News or even Fox News. There is far more happening around the world than we realise. In the past half hour or so I’ve learned more of what’s really happening around the world than watching 12 months of Sky News on and off!

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      PeterS

      Much like the climate change scams. Governments, MSM, social media platforms appear to be immune from telling lies. A few decades ago such actions would have propelled a small army of real journalists into high paying jobs. Now the exact opposite is the case, fake journalists are being rewarded for telling as many lies as possible.

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        el+gordo

        If you remember the rivers of gold dried up because of the communications revolution and good journalists became surplus to requirement.

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      PeterS

      Vaccines have been reported for a long time now to be causing many serious issues including deaths. The least they could do is to allow people to choose which way to go, vaccine, alternative treatment, or both. Just as in the case in India, Indonesia have a very low vaccination rate, use ivermectin and are now winning the battle against COVID-19 better than countries that rely totally on high vaccination rates. Here our health officials placed a ban on prescribing ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19. All we need is a whistle-blower to blow the lid of the cover-ups by our own governments who recommend against the use of alternative treatments.

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    PeterS

    History shows nations flip flop all the time. This is just another example:

    Are Former Communist Countries the Only Sensible Places?

    Meanwhile our governments keep wanting to raises the bar of the vaccination rate. If they had their way and were honest about it they would enforce 100% vaccination right now. Of course they dare not do it as they are not that stupid. The thing that really concerns me is that a lot of commentators even on Sky News who have the same sentiment; vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate! A couple are already sounding like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxD-5z_xHBU

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    el+gordo

    Beijing is going to try and get Taiwan without a shot being fired.

    ‘Separate applications to join the CPTPP have erupted into a war of words and a demand that the 11 member states pick sides. The self-ruled island is proposing to join under the same formulation used for its World Trade Organization membership.’ (SCMP)

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    Destroyer D69

    Does anyone have any idea of the effects of Ivermectin on the “vaccine”I am wondering if if it could possibly be a defense against the “adverse”(their definition, not mine)events following “vaccination”????

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    another ian

    There has been some discussion in comments at Chiefio on this

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    another ian

    Serious reading IMO

    “COVID and the world balance of power – an unholy relationship?”

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2021/09/covid-and-world-balance-of-power-unholy.html

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    another ian

    “Once Upon A Time…*
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    … in a not-so-tiny nation called Spain, a nursing home had a nasty virus get into it.

    It was March of 2020. The nasty virus was called Covid-19. And this nursing home, like so many others all over the world, was full of elderly, morbid people. The mean age of residents was 85 and 48% were over 80 years old. It was a killing field, like so many others…..

    Within three months 100% of the residents had caught the virus. Not presumed to have — proved to have.

    How do we know this? Because almost every one of them seroconverted. All but three out of 84 of them, to be precise.

    Think about that last sentence for a second.

    Almost every one of them seroconverted.

    How’s that possible? Many of them died, right? You can’t seroconvert if you’re dead.

    No. Not only did nearly none die none went to the hospital either because they rapidly figured out how to stop the virus from killing people — and did exactly that.”

    More at

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243683

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      Hanrahan

      dexchlorpheniramine = Polaramine.

      Antihistamines brought me back to the land of the living years ago. I took polaramine in high strength while it was available and another for years, still do this time of year.

      They are benign. at least they are for me.

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    l dont drink coke because it tests positive for covid LOL

    https://greatgameindia.com/coca-cola-covid-19-positive/

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