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    Mal

    The NSW Minister for transport today announced full ahead into ev with a potential drop dead date for stopping the sale of petrol and diesel vehicles
    Ev may have some benefits in major cities where tailgate polluting hydrocarbons are emitted but make no sense in regional communities where long distance is required
    Also who could afford an ev
    Where will the electricity come from
    Another absolutely stupid political statement from a clueless politician

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      David Maddison

      I can see no reason to support the oft-repeated claim, even by science rationalists, that EV’s have some pollution advantage in cities.

      Modern petrol cars (not “green” diesels) emit mostly CO2 and water. Both enrich the environment. So there is no problem.

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        Pauly

        The reality is that modern air quality standards are based on real pollutants, not imaginary ones like CO2. And in the real world, the aim is never to get these emissions to zero, but to a level below which no harm occurs to humans. Of course, CO2 does no measurable harm to humans, at any concentration up to about 15,000 ppm.

        Additionally, life cycle analysis has highlighted that EVs don’t actually reduce total CO2 emissions, until they reach about 150,000km. So the case for EVs really isn’t about reducing any emissions.

        The drive to more EVs ignores the real dangers with these vehicles. In Europe, they’ve banned EVs from parking in underground or multi-storey parking stations, mainly because of the risk of these vehicles catching fire from battery thermal runaway. Fire crews have learnt that no amount of water can extinguish these fires, so the bans are intended to minimise collateral damage to other vehicles, structures, and humans. These fires also produce extremely toxic smoke, which creates a further risk.

        Perhaps the NSW government should introduce legislation restricting the parking of these vehicles first?

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          Muzza

          At 150,000km (15k/year) chances are batteries will need replacing. Starting the emissions clock again (mining of rare earths, transport, manufacture etc of said batteries).

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        Ian George

        Just a DA’s thought.
        Back in the 1970s carbon monoxide from cars was a real pollution problem causing cooling. So catalytic converters were used to convert CO to CO2. The air became clear and CO2 (plant food) was welcome. But it caused warming.
        So if we get rid of the catalytic converter, we would reduce CO2 and cool the planet with CO, a true pollutant. No more climate emergency. Just mask up – we’re use to it.

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      Ronin

      Battery operated cars are never going to save the planet, and just wait until Liddell goes dark, the fun will start.

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      PeterS

      Another absolutely stupid political statement from a clueless politician

      And they keep on coming, thanks to the clueless voters in general. Only a major catastrophe will break the nexus. Repeated blackouts once we closed down more coal fired power stations would do the trick.

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        David Maddison

        That is why I no longer care about them destroying the next proper power station.

        We need to stop delaying the inevitable and actually encourage the crisis to happen.

        It’s the only way the Sheeple and the Useful Idiots can be made to understand.

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          Hanrahan

          Are you saying the Texas white-out changed many opinions? I’d be surprised if it did. The zealots blamed everything BUT ruinables.

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        sophocles

        Only a major catastrophe will break the nexus.

        There are two coming:

        -the first one is the incoming geomagnetic excursion.
        -the second one is raw materials for all those EVs.

        If you think electric plastic fantastix are going to save the planet by saving heaps of oil, ask yourself:

        1. where are the plastic and resins going to come from? (oil!)
        2. where is all the copper going to come from? (extra mining and refining)
        3. is there enough available Lithium to meet battery requirements? (even more mining and refining)

        Copper can be replaced by aluminium but that needs bulk cheap electricity to refine and re-refine,
        Where is that going to come from? (windmills and PV panels … see resources and recycling, otherwise stop being silly)

        Plastic vehicle bodies won’t be easily recycled. (Glass fibre and resin …)

        So where are all those unfashionable Teslas et al going to go?

        If you said, ‘landfill’ pat yourself on your back …

        In IMHO, the drive for EVs is ridiculous. At least steel is easily recycled … and since the days the planet rusted several billion years ago, it’s still in plentiful supply.

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          PeterS

          Also, where is the extra power coming from the grid to charge them all? Even the solar powered cars, such as the three wheeler Aptera Alpha (ugly looking thing) will require charging at some stage. I would have no problems with EVs eventually replacing current vehicles but it’s going to take a lot longer than most people think. First we need a power cell of some description to deliver the energy, not batteries, unless we build more coal fired power stations to charge super batteries of the future that last the life of the car, can be fully charged in about the same time it takes to fill a tank, safe, small and not expensive. It’s a tall order but in time it’s possible for technology to achieve it. As for the raw materials, we can mine the moon and asteroids if needed. That goes to show how far into the future I believe before real EVs become the norm.

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          RickWill

          It is a good time to be a copper miner. BHP tells us that every wind generator needs 3 tonne of copper. There is also a lot more copper in a BEV than an ICE vehicle:
          https://stockhead.com.au/resources/chart-copper-prices-are-at-10-year-highs-heres-why/

          Then there is a need to almost double the capacity of the grid to cater for electric everything. Transmission line usually aluminium and steel but lots of copper in transformers and distribution level. Miners will inherit the earth.

          The wonder in all this is that all the other stuff is still required for real power generation and real road transport. BEVs in Australia simply cannot be more than a second vehicle unless there are extraordinary improvements in batteries.

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      OldOzzie

      H/T Catallaxy Files – an excellent summation

      EYE ON THE MARKET 2021 Annual Energy Paper

      MICHAEL CEMBALEST | JP MORGAN ASSET AND WEALTH MANAGEMENT

      It would be great news if China succeeds with its plan for 25% EVs as a share of vehicle sales by 2025. Even though China’s passenger cars represent only 25% of its transport energy consumption vs 60% in the US, that would still be a lot of Chinese electric cars.

      But…put EVs aside for a moment and focus on the elephant in the room: the number one issue for China and the world is decarbonization of China’s massive industrial sector, which consumes 4x more primary energy than its transport sector and more primary energy than US and European industrial sectors combined. China has electrified larger parts of its industrial sector than the US (23% vs 12%), but since China’s grid is so reliant on coal, electrification provides fewer climate benefits.

      In contrast to the US, China uses 10x more coal than natural gas. In 2020, China built over 3x as much new coal capacity as all other countries combined, equal to one large coal plant per week. China commissioned 38.4 GW of new coal plants in 2020, over 3x the amount commissioned in the rest of the world. Its coal fleet grew by net 29.8 GW in 2020 while non-China net capacity declined by 17.2 GW. China initiated 73.5 GW of new coal plant proposals in 2020, over 5x the rest of the world combined. You get the point.

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        sophocles

        The Chinese know how things work.

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        OldOzzie

        The Geek in Pictures: Special Energy Fantasy League Edition

        My favorite part of the report, however, is the shade it throws on electric cars:

        I enjoyed the Will Ferrell commercial for GM during the Super Bowl which stated that Norway is “eating our lunch” on EVs. As shown below, they sure are: Norway EV sales were 60% of all vehicle sales last year compared to 2% in the US. But there are a few things about Norway that are important to understand:

        . Norway has 5 million people and a population density that is 5%-15% of most other European nations
        . 97% of Norway’s electricity comes from hydropower; its electricity prices are 40%-70% of European levels
        . In Norway, EVs are exempt from VAT taxes and receive a 50% discount on toll roads and parking fees while ICE cars are subject to a 25% VAT, a CO2 tax, an NOx tax and a weight tax. As a result, Norwegian ICE cars are more expensive to buy and 75% more expensive to operate
        . A full conversion to EVs would put its EV subsidies at the second largest gov’t expenditure behind pensions.

        So, let’s dispense with Norway as a paradigm for the world’s high density, car-loving countries and see how the EV revolution is going elsewhere. Other than in a few small Northern European countries, EV sales as a share of vehicle sales are still mostly less than 10%. . .

        The whole long section analyzing the electric car mania is a delight to read. Here’s another fun bit:

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          Chris

          My Norwegian family own an EV for school runs and nipping about town and an SUV for ski trips and hiking in the mountains. In the past life of 2019 , they also used the SUV for holidays to Portugal.

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      Hanrahan

      Looking at the HV network diagram the 132kV line finishes at Charters towers. To travel west from there to Darwin or Alice in an EV you would be charging from OC gas turbine, diesel at remote road houses, SWER lines at others or 32 kV generally. None of this is robust enough to power a car/truck vehicle fleet.

      OK this is Qld west. Why would NSW west be better catered for?

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        Graeme#4

        Some “genius” in WA was looking for a govt subsidy to develop integrated charging stations with diesel generators, for remote sites.

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          OriginalSteve

          Yeah…and its that type of seriously stupid and messed up thinking that perfectly illustrates the muddle headed greenie mind set……

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      glen Michel

      I have sent a letter to dear Andrew (polite like) urging him not to mandate the use of EV’s. Reality is otherwise as we know and I can only see him appealing to the city type. Not up here in the bush.

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        OriginalSteve

        The problem with idealogically driven communists is that they arent open to common sense.

        After his “mishap” the same week the other bloke close to the core of covid lie wound up in hospital close to death, you may have thought he might have grow a brain.

        Some have postulated Dear Leader had been issued an edict by his masters he had disagreed with, and was given something to think about……

        Time will tell…

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    RicDre

    Victoria Announces the End of Affordable Home Heating, Because Climate Change

    Guest essay by Eric Worrall

    The cold Aussie state of Victoria has announced that in the future, people will have to rely on their increasingly unstable and unaffordable electricity grid, to hold back the winter chill.

    Push to turn off gas to help reach state’s climate goal

    “Gas appliances including heaters, hot water services and cooktops would be phased out under a proposed moratorium on new gas connections to households.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/05/victoria-announces-the-end-of-affordable-home-heating-because-climate-change/

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      Rowjay

      So, during our winter months when the days are shorter (less sun) and the wind stagnation events more common, the switch to all-electric heating will need a doubling of generation capacity for this period, and mothballing this over-generation capacity during the summer months when it is not needed. Makes sense to someone.

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        sophocles

        … they (the pollies) see no reason to worry:

        just install more fans and mirrors and the power will come …

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      David Wojick

      How does a moritorium on new connections phase anything out? More nonsense.

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      PeterS

      I say to them go ahead, make my day. Let the rolling blackouts begin and see how long these dumb politicians last. In the end we ought to see public opinion reaching dangerous levels for any politician who keeps on singing the CAGW song, but then again voters are so clueless these days it’s also possible the song could gain in popularity because they agree we need to suffer for the sake of saving the planet from an alleged man-made global warming catastrophe. Time will tell which way it goes.

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      sophocles

      It sounds as though the Victorian pollies have a death wish.

      That can all be remanied through the ballot box when the cold hits.
      (It’s not far away, now — just a few years.)

      In some areas, like Europe, it’s already starting with winter hanging on, (and hanging on):
      Germany is going to have to back-pedal on its PVs and Windmills with a return to fossil fuels:

      https://notrickszone.com/2021/05/02/europes-frosty-spring-germany-sees-coldest-april-in-40-years-frost-frequency-of-unusual-dimension/
      Europe’s Frosty Spring:

      And there is May to go before Summer (June).

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        sophocles

        * cough * and I can’t even claim “autocorrect” for remanied instead of remedied.
        I don;t use any Microsloth nor Addle software …

        Sorry.

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      John R Smith

      So children born in 2020 may see snow after all.
      Physical contact at the playground, maybe not.

      Cyclops. (Is there a plural for mythical beasts with one eye?)
      Dragons.
      Witches.
      Global Warming.
      Climate Change.
      Pandemic.

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      sophocles

      Nice one, Zoe.

      It’s not surprising for a few of us 😀

      (Keep an eye open for Kirye and Tony Heller at Real Climate Science dot com. They’re onto this too.
      as is Notrickszone.com)

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        el gordo

        Its a global cooling signal.

        “I haven’t seen snow at this time of year before, but I was speaking to some other members who said there was snow in June in 1963, although that was a very unusual year for weather,” he said.

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    RicDre

    Guardian: Airlines Using Dubious Carbon Credits to Claim Carbon Neutral Operations

    Guest essay by Eric Worrall

    Surprise – According to The Guardian, airline carbon credit “projects had routinely overstated their emissions reductions”.

    Carbon offsets used by major airlines based on flawed system, warn experts

    Guardian investigation finds carbon credits generated by forest protection schemes are based on flawed system

    Patrick Greenfield @pgreenfielduk

    The forest protection carbon offsetting market used by major airlines for claims of carbon-neutral flying faces a significant credibility problem, with experts warning the system is not fit for purpose, an investigation has found.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/04/guardian-airlines-using-dubious-carbon-credits-to-claim-carbon-neutral-operations/

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      Klem

      I’m not surprised, it’s easy to sell a piece of paper to someone and claim trees were planted in their name somewhere.

      In the most recent Canadian federal election, Justin Trudeau and his team, flew around the country in two separate jets. When asked about his carbon footprint, he claimed to have purchased carbon offsets so his campaign was carbon neutral. Not one reporter asked to see those certificates, not one.

      Carbon credits are a scam.

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    RicDre

    Materials Acquisition for Global Industrial Change (MAGIC)

    Biden relies on adherence to climate crisis creed and belief in MAGIC to transform USA, world

    Paul Driessen

    Via executive orders, regulatory edicts and partisan Green New Deal legislation, President Biden intends to slash US carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions by 50% below their 2005 peak by 2030, and eliminate them (and fossil fuel use) by 2050. But as AOC’s former chief of staff noted, the GND is not just about transforming America’s energy system; it’s about changing the entire economy.

    This radical transformation is driven by three fundamental Articles of Faith, none of them based on reality.

    1) The crisis of manmade climate cataclysms necessitates this GND.

    2) American foreign policy must construct a values-based world order that can tackle humanity’s common problems in an organized, collegial manner.

    3) Replacing the 80% of US energy that now comes from fossil fuels can be accomplished quickly, easily, affordably and ecologically – with clean, green, renewable, sustainable, carbon-free wind and solar technologies that will create millions of good jobs, and save our planet from climate devastation.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/04/materials-acquisition-for-global-industrial-change-magic/

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      David Wojick

      People have fallen in love with the magical idea of restructuring reality. When I point out the impossibility the answer I consistently get is that I lack imagination. It is not a fear of climate change. It is the love of change for its own sake. The dream of a better world, where all wrongs are righted.

      Reality does not count, because that is what they are going to change, so there is no possible counter argument.

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        TdeF

        An interesting point. I remember one student year ago suggested that I was lucky living through the Vietnam war as we had something to protest then!

        It’s as if finding things wrong which requires a new generation of hippie activists was an end in itself. Like the new Woke New Zealand reinventing a Maori country and creating Maori everything, when there is not a single full blood Maori left. They are even inventing a Maori language so all the signs can be in two languages, which is difficult as there were only seven hundred Maori words which makes signs at an airport very difficult. Software is particularly difficult. Maoris are a modern people but they did not even have metal.

        So I think with my Irish/Scottish/Dutch heritage, I should ask for compensation from the rest of Australia and the UK. And demand that the street signs are in Gaelic and that people wear clogs and kilts and every orchestra has a bagpipe player and hand gestures in dancing are forbidden. And we get lots of money from everyone else and control over public utilities.

        Anti racism is the new racism. Anti Fascism is the new fascism. Anti Capitalism money hungry Socialism. Where does it stop with restructuring reality? It is as if WWII never happened, the fight against Fascism, racism, militarism, expansionism. Even Winston Churchill is now a racist. But people need to consider the guy he beat.

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          glen Michel

          Did Stalin beat Hitler? In the defeat of fascism Britain gave time, America money and Russia blood. Not exactly on the money, but sort of proportional. I totally agree with your piece nonetheless.

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          sophocles

          They are even inventing a Maori language so all the signs can be in two languages,

          They have Maori `academics’ working hard to extend the language and bring it up to date for the last 40 years.

          Maori facial tattoos are more common, too, and a mark of `Woke-ness’ (or is that `Woke-itude’?)

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            David Maddison

            Many or most of the non-written languages had no words for numbers beyond one, two and many. So they just make it up as they go. And rewrite history and the facts in the process.

            And the BS and historical revision just never ends. E.g. Google “aboriginal astronomy” and you will learn how aboriginals were great astronomers.

            Or “aboriginal farmers”. Etc..

            Indigenous peoples survived in difficult environments but should not be credited with scientific knowledge they never possesed.

            And don’t forget, Europeans were also indigenous peoples of their ancestral lands as well.

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          I find the whole ‘us’ v ‘them’ in relation to the First Peoples of Australia and New Zealand expressed here to be very ugly.

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    David Maddison

    All politicians should read and understand:

    “When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – When you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you – When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – You may know that your society is doomed.”

    Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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      Annie

      Ayn Rand hit the nail on the head there. Where is John Galt?

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        el gordo

        Ayn Rand, the darling of the right, argued for objectivism over cooperation, she was indifferent to how humans evolved.

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          Peter C

          Ayn Rand, the darling of the right, argued for objectivism over cooperation,

          Did she really.

          Objectivism must be good, ie recognising things as they actually are.

          Co-operation also good, and can co exist with objectivism unless co-operation is redefined as socialism. Socialism has been tried many times but universally fails.

          Ayn Rand was apparently a friend of Laura Ingalls Wilder (the author of Little House on the Prairie). Laura argued against Ayn’s self interest perspective and said the the first settlers could never have survived if they had not put co-operation first. A good point by Laura but she was not arguing for socialism.

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      Huh!

      Atlas Shrugged.

      Our youngest son mentioned a couple of years back that he was beginning to think that reading books was something he finally had time to do. He used to look at my bookshelves and shake his head, saying, “Dad, where do you get the time?” (Once having ‘shelled out’ hard earned on a book, I just couldn’t bear to just throw it out, so I had around 500 books in two book shelves)

      Back in the eighties when our children finally started to earn their own money, they decide it was time to buy presents for Mum and Dad with their own money, so the three of them pulled me aside one day and asked what I wanted for Christmas. So used now to sports shirts and shorts, the usual, (you know what Mum thinks I needed most, and they would attach their name to the gift card) I mentioned that a gift voucher for some books at the usual book retailers would be nice. Our youngest Son thought that was akin to just giving money, and he wanted the joy of going out and looking for the gift, so rather than just settle for the gift card, he asked me for a list of five books, and he got me three of them, and one was Larry McMutry’s Lonesome Dove, a ‘cowboy’ novel, but nothing at all what you might expect, a truly amazing novel.

      So now, back to the earlier text where I mentioned he had now started to read himself.

      I went out and got him two books for his birthday, not light reading, but really thick novels. I repaid the compliment and got him a copy of Lonesome Dove, and the second was in fact that wonderful novel Atlas Shrugged.

      He told me on the phone on the day after his Birthday (the thank you call for me and also for his Mum and her gift) that he was really happy with the books, or as he said, a Year’s worth of reading.

      He opened the gifts with his own family on the day, wife and two boys. His eldest Son, now in the third year of his University degree, saw the novels and pointing to Atlas Shrugged said to his Father, “Dad, you’re not actually going to read that are you?”

      Tony.

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      Custer Van Cleef

      A good description of the Biden family’s modus operandi.

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    David Maddison

    All new Australian laws and regulations should have sunset clauses for either review or automatic extinguishment.

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    David Maddison

    Interesting factoids:

    A group of goblins is called a horde, while female goblins are referred to as hags, crones, or goblette.

    https://kidskonnect.com/fun/goblin/

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      Annie

      I have heard of hags and crones but not goblettes, only goblets, in which to place a drink!

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    David Maddison

    Australia’s CSIRO (for non-Australians, a once highly reputable government scientific research organisation until they went full woketard), has now jumped onto the UN agenda that we must eat insects to save the planet.

    No doubt the Elites will continue to enjoy steak just as they enjoy private jets.

    https://research.csiro.au/edibleinsects/

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      David Wojick

      It ought to be possible to make coal edible.

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        David Maddison

        Yes. 1) Burn the coal to make CO2. 2) Plants turn CO2 into food. 3) Animals eat the plants. 4) Humans eat the animals.

        Vegans can stop at step 3 and just eat the animal food (which is my food’s food).

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        Kevin kilty

        Especially the brown coal. You can just about see the vegetables in it still.

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    David Maddison

    Victoriastan Labor and Greens want to ban domestic gas appliances like BBQ’s, supposedly to save the planet…

    Reference: Tweet from Michael O’Brien, Opposition “Leader”.

    Labor and the Greens want to ban gas appliances – like your BBQ – to meet climate …

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      PeterS

      It’s only going to get more and more stupid. So when are they going to ban smoking, not that I smoke – never did and never will.

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        Hanrahan

        They can’t ban smoking, they are as addicted to the revenue as the smoker is to his habit.

        I think it is sick profiting of others’ weaknesses.

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        Gary Simpson

        Listened to Dr. Kate Charlesworth speaking to Neil Mitchell on 3aw today. She is a medical doctor advising the climate council. After telling the audience that cooking with natural gas may cause your kids to develop asthma, she went into a rant about climate-caused bushfires, farmers unable to grow crops, more storms, droughts, etc. You would think that someone with a degree in medicine would surely have to have been exposed to some real, actual science wouldn’t you?
        Just like Gabrielle de Vietri, mayor of the People’s Republic of Yarra, a Melbourne council area, who also while being interviewed this week, described her council’s plan to squander millions of dollars in ratepayers’ funds to convert all council assets from ‘dirty gas’ (her words) to clean, renewable (as if) energy. She was also becoming breathless in her enthusiasm to denigrate ‘dirty gas’ at every opportunity, and also remind us dumb non-leftists about all kinds of erroneous claims about sea-levels, climate emergencies and other such mythological tales.
        Where the hell are these numbskulls coming from?
        I am getting fed up with being bombarded relentlessly with this crap.

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          PeterS

          The propaganda machines, such as the ABC are working at full speed and not a single senior minister in the Federal government gives a damn.

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      sophocles

      Ha: switch to coal-burning ones. There should be plenty of coal available now it’s not being used for electrickery generation.

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    OldOzzie

    Herald Sun had interesting article on Pfizer Side Effects with Dose 2 – 40.4% reoorted no adverse event – 59.6% reported adverse event

    with those statistics referenced to this site

    https://www.ausvaxsafety.org.au/safety-data/covid-19-vaccines

    COVID-19 vaccine safety surveillance

    The national roll-out of COVID-19 vaccines commenced on 22 February 2021, and AusVaxSafety is conducting active vaccine safety surveillance of the vaccines in use. The vaccines currently being supplied are Comirnaty BNT162b2 (mRNA), sponsored by Pfizer Australia Pty Ltd, and COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, sponsored by AstraZeneca.

    Surveillance data have been provided by Vaxtracker, SmartVax and the Victorian Department of Health COVID-19 Vaccine Management System based on surveys sent on Day 3 after the vaccination, and data presented here are from surveys received up to 2 May 2021. These data are updated weekly.

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      OldOzzie

      World’s Most-Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

      Seychelles, which has fully vaccinated more of its population against the coronavirus than any other country, has closed schools and canceled sporting activities for two weeks as infections surge. The measures, which include bans on the intermingling of households and the early closure of bars, come even as the country has fully vaccinated more than 60% of its adult population with two doses of Covid-19 vaccines.

      The curbs are similar to those last imposed at the end of 2020. “Despite of all the exceptional efforts we are making, the Covid-19 situation in our country is critical right now, with many daily cases reported last week,” Peggy Vidot, the nation’s health minister, said at a press conference Tuesday.

      The Indian Ocean archipelago, which has a population of about 98,000, is dependent on tourism for much of its foreign exchange and acted quickly to begin vaccinations in January using a donation of Chinese vaccines from the United Arab Emirates. It has procured other vaccines since. By April 12, 59% of the doses administered were Sinopharm vaccines and the rest were Covishield, a version of AstraZeneca Plc’s shot made under license in India.

      To date 62.2% of its population is fully vaccinated, according to the Bloomberg Vaccine Tracker. That compares with 55.9% for Israel, the next most vaccinated nation.

      ‘Global Implications’

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      OldOzzie

      Some interesting references – COVID vaccination update

      There are actually 5 PDF’s

      Our research to-date on the coronavirus

      1. COVID vaccination update >
      2. COVID global infection, hospitalization and mortality tracker >
      3. COVID tracker by country and state >
      4. COVID: reinfection, antibodies, T-cell immune memory and survivor impacts >
      5. US spending, mobility, and production tracker >

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      OldOzzie

      What about side effects?The CDC maintains a website of historical vaccine safety concerns and outcomes starting in 1955 which you can access here:

      Historical Vaccine Safety Concerns

      Questions and Concerns

      There is solid medical and scientific evidence that the benefits of vaccines far outweigh the risks. Despite this, there have been concerns about the safety of vaccines for as long as they have been available in the U.S. This page will explain past vaccine safety concerns, how they have been resolved, and what we have learned.</em

      The CDC also maintains a database of self-reportedadverse events from all vaccines(VAERS). We found that incidence of hospitalization and emergency room visits after COVID vaccines is higher than for the flu, but still very low on an absolute basis and similar to other vaccines and medications. The challenge with this data is that it is not “causal”; adverse events need more analysis to determine if they were actually caused by the vaccine or not. But in the spirit of full disclosure, here’s the data we compiled using VAERS data.

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      OldOzzie

      The Incredible Vanishing Flu

      Seasonal influenza, also known as “the flu,” visits America every year, similar to tornados, thunderstorms, heat waves, and snowstorms. As tracked by the CDC, over the past decade symptomatic flu cases ranged from 9 to 45 million cases per year in the US. Hospitalizations varied from 140 to 810 thousand, and deaths from 12 to 61 thousand, depending on the particular year, strain of influenza, and effectiveness of the vaccine.

      This year, “flu activity is unusually low at this time” according to CDC surveillance. Since late September 2020, they recorded only about 2000 cases, a minute fraction of the tens of millions of cases in past years.

      Hospitalizations this flu season are minimal with only 224 confirmed influenza hospitalizations from September 2020 to mid-April 202, nowhere near the hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations in past seasons.

      Deaths are harder to measure since the CDC conveniently changed how deaths are characterized this past year. Instead of pneumonia, influenza, and COVID being in separate categories, now it’s called PIC, lumping the three entities together.

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        Lucky

        This American Thinker article, 6-May-2021, by Brian C.Joondeph, MD is well worth reading.
        My take-

        The number of flu cases is dramatically down, but why?
        Several explanations are mentioned, discussed, and dismissed.

        Dr Joondeph then suggests that it is the artificially high PCR cycle thresholds giving artificially high numbers for covid. Thus deaths and illnesses that otherwise would have been classed as flu (and other causes) are classed as belonging to covid.
        The change by CDC, at the time when US vaccination was building up, in the cycle threshold (Ct) is presented as evidence. A high Ct exaggerates the virus activity, now, lowering the Ct indicates lower virus presence, this ‘shows’ the effectiveness of the vaccines. Note, CDC is a company owned by big pharma, it is not a government agency.

        Comment by me, I’ll stand corrected if reliable data disagree- note the absence of a big jump in total US deaths in year 2020 over that for previous years. Yes, there is a big number from covid but a big drop in number due to flu.
        The financial incentives for bias in classification to make covid high are well known, there are suggestions for bias the other way tho’ I have not seen any mechanism described.

        If this manipulation exists, for year 2021 we should now see flu numbers increasing back to levels as seen in year 2019 and previous years. Is this happening?
        But CDC have changed/merged the categories so deep data digging has to be done.

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          Kalm Keith

          Thanks Lucky.

          The basic “data” on which all estimates of the prevalence of CV19 and its seriousness have been based, is indeed “basic”.

          Data recovered from various countries has been treated as equivalent and reliable for combination.

          In fact the basic health profiles of various countries have been vastly different and this prevents CV19 “data” from those countries being amalgamated into an honest uniform, valid picture.

          Even within the USA when you have city of New York compared with rural areas you are comparing chalk and cheese.

          New York, with its crowding and sewage problems, cannot be realistically compared with rural areas.

          Internationally when we compare Australia, with its excellent vaccination profile, with the troubled region of Italy with its fluctuating Chinese workers and undocumented stay behinds, we are again comparing chalk and cheese.

          As Steve pointed out yesterday, basic health plays a big part in deciding who suffers most.

          Data is only as good and useful as the methods used to produce it.

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    Robber

    How’s that “renewables” strategy going in SA?
    Last night at 6.30pm, electricity demand was 1,922 MW, solar delivered 3 MW (down from a high of 700 MW at midday), wind 127 MW (down from 590 MW in the morning from a nameplate capacity of 2,100 MW), that big battery 3 MW, 340 MW imports from Vic where coal was delivering 70% of generation, and gas 1,454 MW.
    Let’s turn off the gas and coal and see how they cope.

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      Ronin

      Robber, and yet the clowns hype the 3rd ‘extension lead over the fence’ to NSW as a means to export clean power, more likely to hold them up with brown coal when the wind doesn’t blow.

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        RexAlan

        Well once NSW closes Liddell the extension lead will be useless anyway.

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          Chad

          True, but dont forget that SA intends to shut down its Gas fired Torrens A generators before then. !!.. that will really help things along !

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    David Maddison

    Under the Biden maladministration, the CIA has gone fully woke. Conservative Mark Dice discusses their new advertisements.

    https://youtu.be/9Mzuokn9k2o

    (I don’t have a non-YouTube link, apologies.)

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    Chad

    I am puzzeled ?
    Earlier this week, there was a TV news article on the ABC (sorry !)…that Quoted the chief of AGL saying that there will be an power supply “Crisis” when Liddel closes, unless something is done to provide more Fossil fueled generation capacity.
    Now, i didnt think much of it at the time ( it seemed an obvious statement !), but when searching the net for a quote today, …i find NOTHING !!… odd ?..or is it to be expected ?

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    el gordo

    We shouldn’t worry over the closure of Liddell, the taxpayers are footing the bill.

    ‘The federal budget will set aside money for the construction of a gas-fired power station in NSW, amid a growing view within government that it is more likely than not the taxpayer-funded project will go ahead, regardless of what the private sector decides.

    ‘Because the power station would be built by the government-owned corporation Snowy Hydro Limited, it would be listed as a cash-for-asset transfer and have no impact on the budget bottom line, which is the same way the NBN is treated.’ (AFR)

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    Tonight, starting at 8pm EST, Tucker Carson on Fox News has been discussing the unprecedented adverse side effects from COVID vaccines.

    He mentioned that COVID vaccines reported deaths in the US, so far this year, exceed all US deaths, from all vaccines, from 1997 through 2012 — a 15 year period

    Tucker is also discussing the censorship of news on COVID vaccine adverse events.

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      RickWill

      Dorothea foretold of this more than a century ago. Climate remains climate. Always changing but always the same; constant change.

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      OldOzzie

      Richard – Tucker was using the Statistics from CDC also maintains a database of self-reportedadverse events from all vaccines(VAERS)

      What about side effects?The CDC maintains a website of historical vaccine safety concerns and outcomes starting in 1955 which you can access here:

      Historical Vaccine Safety Concerns

      Questions and Concerns

      There is solid medical and scientific evidence that the benefits of vaccines far outweigh the risks. Despite this, there have been concerns about the safety of vaccines for as long as they have been available in the U.S. This page will explain past vaccine safety concerns, how they have been resolved, and what we have learned.

      The CDC also maintains a database of self-reportedadverse events from all vaccines(VAERS). We found that incidence of hospitalization and emergency room visits after COVID vaccines is higher than for the flu, but still very low on an absolute basis and similar to other vaccines and medications. The challenge with this data is that it is not “causal”; adverse events need more analysis to determine if they were actually caused by the vaccine or not. But in the spirit of full disclosure, here’s the data we compiled using VAERS data.

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    Travis T. Jones

    BoM:
    I think I blamed doomsday global warming, climate change, carbon, carbon dioxide, greenhouse gasses, cow flatulence, coal, oil, humans once, but this time I didn’t blame them and I think I got away with it …

    La Niña’s Final Fury

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/la-nina-s-final-fury-20210427-p57mvj.html

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    Thank you Hollywood, don’t call me, I’ll let you know

    “The deeper story is that Hollywood having worked very hard to make itself culturally irrelevant, is being tuned out by most white men of any age.”

    Read more at – https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2021/05/04/thank-you-hollywood-dont-call-me-ill-let-you-know/

    Pointman

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      OldOzzie

      White House: Joe Biden Believes Social Media Platforms Should Block More ‘Untrustworthy Content’

      From the Comments

      Roses Are Red
      Kamala’s Not Black
      Joe’s Got Dementia
      And Hunter’s On Crack

      But more relevant

      To a Democrat:

      Disinformation = Anyone who disagrees with them.

      Misinformation = The lies they need to tell to make their ideas palatable.

      It boils down to credibility.

      Maxine Waters can call for violence and continues to enjoy a platform from the major social media companies.

      Meanwhile, the FORMER LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD is STILL BANNED for saying to PEACEFULLY march to the Capitol Building….they’ve lost all credibility.

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    Ronin

    The wokesters are hard at work, they claim cooking on gas is bad for asthmatics, advising to keep your asthma prone kids well away from the cooktop, will this never end.

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    Greg Cavanagh

    Ok, something different for everyone. How about viruses represented in glass? They’re sculptures only, but accurate to the virus.
    https://www.darkroastedblend.com/2012/06/killer-viruses-and-other-cutting-edge.html

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    David Maddison

    So use electricity made from coal instead?

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    Liberator

    You read all about those climate change people who are needing to see psychs for all of the stress this is causing them. Well you know what, they are causing me a lot of stress and worry now as well. I’m worried my kids wont be able to afford electricity,(what there will be available for them to use) will have no gas to cook, warm their homes and heat their hot water because gas is bad.

    To cook, heat their homes and their water, they have to switch to electricity that won’t be there because we’ve shut down our coal and gas fired generators. Or they’ll have to use wood heating to warm their homes, cook their food and heat their water. Because wood is renewable and green despite the smoke haze that fills the cities air. We’ve built and will build thousands of unicorn fart intermittent power generators that never operate at their plate capacity.

    They’ll be forced to buy and use EV’s that the grid will struggle to find the power to charge them with. We’ll have an unstable power grid because of all of the solar and wind power overloading the systems – until its not. They’ll have a reduction in medicines and plastics because they’ll ban oil. They won’t be able to fly anywhere because planes are bad.

    In reality the wont have cars either, you need coal to make steel. You need oil to make plastics and tires for cars. You wont have cars because they need lithium and copper for the batteries, and mining will be banned because mining = bad.

    Eventually there won’t be enough wood because there is only so many trees you can chop down, they don’t grow that fast… So they cant build new houses, they need bricks, glass, steel, aluminium, concrete and timber. Without a reliable power source none of these materials can be mined, grown, processed and converted into usable materials.

    They can’t have a beer or soft drink in an aluminium can because the aluminium smelters won’t be able to run as there will not be a reliable source of electricity.

    They can’t have their drinks in glass because that requires mining and copious amounts of electricity to make the glass.

    If people really think about what fossil fuels have done for our well being and development and then think whats going to happen when they are all taken away from them maybe they’ll think a little harder, but I doubt it. They seem to think the world can run on renewables, that we don’t need coal, gas, oil, uranium.

    The world has been built on a carbon economy. Big batteries, solar and wind are not going to support 8 billion people. This whole climate emergency is just not about generating power and running transport from fossil fuels it’s how we live life now and we want to stop the 3rd world for joining our way of life now by banning it all?

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      Maptram

      “They can’t have a beer or soft drink in an aluminium can because the aluminium smelters won’t be able to run as there will not be a reliable source of electricity.”

      They can’t have beer, wine because the yeast used for fermentation process turns glucose into alcohol and releases CO2.

      Similar with some breads.

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    Hanrahan

    Who are the new “useful idiots”?

    We know who Lenin was referring too but I think the definition should be expanded. I had a rare political discussion with my son last night. He is a thoroughly nice guy with no political ideology, just too simplistic. He never voted for Abbot because “he lied”. That may have been the year he voted green because he met the local candidate who showed “a genuine interest in local politics”. What would you expect of the local green?

    My new inclusions would be those who say:
    Both parties are the same.
    Both parties are corrupt, one is no worse than the other.
    I wouldn’t vote for either major party, the member votes the way he/she is told.
    The extension of that is “I want an independent who will vote his/her conscience” completely ignoring history of Jacqui Lambie and Zali Steggall.

    I’m not saying these people don’t wish well for the nation, they are just too lazy to think or to go beyond their phone for news.

    Useful tools of the left.

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      Ronin

      ‘When I was 17 my father was so ignorant I could scarcely put up with being in the same room as him, after I turned 21 I was amazed at how much more he knew.’

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        PeterS

        When we were young most of us thought we knew all the answers and older people were clueless. Turns out we are all clueless, just some more clueless than others. The sad part is although wisdom come with age, they are are completely ignored unless they are in high positions who tend to lack wisdom. There’s a lot of truth in the old saying s..t rises to the top.

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    David Maddison

    Powerful short video comparing the propaganda posters of the National Socialists and International Socialists.

    https://youtu.be/-qXfKetKtcY

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    OldOzzie

    Anatomy of a Crime Wave

    Baltimore’s experiment with de-policing has been disastrous—and deadly.

    A decade ago, Baltimoreans became lab rats in a fateful experiment: their elected officials decided to treat the city’s long-running crime problem with many fewer cops. In effect, Baltimore began to defund its police and engage in de-policing long before those terms gained popular currency.

    This experiment has been an abject failure. Since 2011, nearly 3,000 Baltimoreans have been murdered—one of every 200 city residents over that period. The annual homicide rate has climbed from 31 per 100,000 residents to 56—ten times the national rate. And 93 percent of the homicide victims of known race over this period were black.

    Remarkably, Baltimore is reinforcing its de-policing strategy. State’s Attorney for Baltimore Marilyn Mosby no longer intends to prosecute various “low-level” crimes. Newly elected mayor Brandon Scott promises a five-year plan to cut the police budget. Both justify their policies by asserting that the bloodbath on city streets proves that policing itself “hasn’t worked”; they sell their acceleration of de-policing as a “fresh approach” and “re-imagining” of law enforcement.

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      RickWill

      Sounds like an effective way to depopulate a location. Stay and have low prospects for a long life or leave. Either way it is bound to reduce population and the problem of crowds.

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    RickWill

    Some more on tropical ocean warm pools. This link shows the ocean surface area at respective surface temperature in 1C bands and how the SST falls off a cliff above 29C:
    https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNhDqKPE5N8QiPAzdK
    April is the month having the largest area of warm pools. August is the warmest month overall. And December is the coldest month overall.

    It is worth noting that almost 50% of the ocean water surface is 24C or warmer but less than 1% of surface area averages above 31C for an entire month; only isolated bodies of water like the Persian Gulf.

    Right now, the Arabian Sea and Bay of Bengall form one big warm pool surrounding India:
    https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp/orthographic=-282.52,1.95,519/loc=62.656,3.433

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    OldOzzie

    The Deep Weirdness of the “Biden Administration”

    These are pretty grim days, but one source of entertainment is observing the liberal press studiously pretending not to notice the utter bizarreness of the “Biden administration.” Our president looks, as Scott says, like an escapee from Madame Tussaud’s, and he sounds even worse. But America’s intrepid reporters are determined to pretend that all is well. For them, it will be a long year, or two years, or however long Biden is able to remain vertical.

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    WokeBuster

    The Wokesters are back at it again. Even the humble ant is non-binary. https://todayuknews.com/science/now-ants-go-non-binary-newly-discovered-species-is-named-they/

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      tonyb

      wokebuster

      Yes, I read that with increasing incredulity this morning in the Telegraph. Mind you it just added further proof, if proof were needed, to my theory that our intellectual and political elite are not only raving mad but not at all elite.

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      Annie

      I just couldn’t bring myself to read much of it, nor the RAF article below. The world is now officially stark staring bonkers.
      As for Boris trying to tell Australia what we should do about ‘climate change’; sort your silly greenie girlfriend out first.

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    tonyb

    The EU ae still very bitter at the UK leaving. In the latest example, as new Fishing rules kick in-agreed by the EU-the French decide they don’t like their allocation and have blockaded Jersey and have threatened to bring the island to its knees by cutting off the Electricity interconnectors linking France and jersey

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9548723/Royal-Navy-gunships-patrol-sea-Jersey-70-French-fishing-boats-threaten-blockade-harbour.html

    For those with a long memory this is the same issue as when the fishing deal was agreed in December with Macron saying if he did not get his own way the interconnectors to the whole of the UK would be turned off-during winter!

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    Aunty Pravda’s rolling news feed of unacceptable articles for the 6th May – https://thepointman.wordpress.com/rolling-headlines/  #freepointy

    Pointy

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      Hanrahan

      I heard that on Credin tonight. They will cut other military expenditures to do so.

      YA GOTTA BE KIDDIN!

      The Brits have managed to assemble a “task force” to escort HMS Queen Elizabeth on a show of strength to the South China Sea [Zi will be cancelling his attack on Taiwan as I type] but 9 of the 16 F 35s on board are US Marine aircraft.

      Militarily the UK sucks. We are taking our defence far more seriously.

      Canada is buying our obsolete F-18s. Germany has made no decision on their Typhoon replacement. Trump was right, “allies” bludged under the US umbrella.

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        Dennis

        The Joint Strike Fighter F-35 Lightning is built in various configurations, I assume that your “US Marine aircraft” is as follows …

        https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/stealth-strike-marines-version-f-35-flew-more-100-combat-sorties-45567

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          Dennis

          By the way, the RAAF will operate over seventy F-53 aircraft when delivery is completed and retain F-18 Super Hornet numbering thirty including electronics jamming “Growler” version, and replacements for Super Hornet are scheduled for mid 2030s. In addition the RAAF and Boeing Australia “Loyal Wingman” drone aircraft are being delivered to fly alongside other RAAF aircraft and can be configured to carry out a number of roles.

          Loyal Wingman will be purchased by other JFS allies.

          The RAAF jet fighter training aircraft can also be used for various attack roles.

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    graham dunton

    fight against Big Tech censorship.

    To keep people informed of the issue, this is the latest.

    Things are heating up in the fight against Big Tech censorship.

    The Good News: We hit a major milestone this weekend when Heartland’s climate realism video with John Stossel racked up a whopping 25,000,000 views on Facebook.

    The Gad News: Before we could pop the champagne, Facebook’s “fact-checkers” slapped a “partially false” label on the post.

    Very soon, Heartland will slap them right back!

    Try as they may, dishonest Big Tech tycoons in Silicon Valley won’t be able to stop the truth about climate change from getting out there.

    The Great News: Heartland is proud to report that Florida’s Big Tech censorship bill has passed the state legislature and is on its way to Gov. DeSantis’s desk. Our government relations team has worked tirelessly on this bill.

    This is a major victory! If signed into law, SB 7072 would provide a legal framework that other states can follow.

    We expect to encounter even more resistance from Big Tech lobbyists and their allies in the months to come.

    The closer we get to reining in these would-be digital overlords, the louder they cry.
    Graham, thank you for making this possible.

    Your invaluable support has made a real difference in the fight for our nation’s voice. With your help, we’ll ensure future generations of Americans can speak their minds without fear of retribution.

    For freedom,

    David Hoyt
    Executive Director of Development
    The Heartland Institute
    3939 North Wilke Road
    Arlington Heights, IL 60004
    United States
    heartland.org

    P.S. College campuses often appear to be a lost cause, but Heartland never shrinks from a challenge. Heartland President James Taylor recently participated in a debate on climate change hosted by the University of Pennsylvania Political Union, and I may be biased, but I’d say he won.

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      Custer Van Cleef

      Very good news there, from Florida.

      Poland is doing something similar: I believe the proposed legislation translates as “the law on freedom of expressing one’s own views, and searching and disseminating information on the internet”.

      The fines for Big Tech, for censoring lawful free speech, will start at 2.2 million USD – not enough I say but it’s a start!

      So Poland and Florida are leading the fightback, let’s hope other places step up and create unstoppable momentum.

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    Analitik

    Brilliant article on the possible origins of covid-19 by the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

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    Kevin kilty

    Again, I raise more suspicious goings on over the 2020 US election.
    This is well worth watching. Robert Barnes is a civil rights attorney, and speaks well. I suspect this may vanish from YouTube…

    election integrity the civil rights issue of our time

    In other related news Arizona Democrats are hoping to halt the election audit going on there, and are trying to draw the Biden Administration into helping them.

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    el gordo

    Democracy without a major, Israel is a standout.

    ‘Rivlin met the two separately on Wednesday and each put his own name forward to lead coalition talks, the president said.

    “I have just spoken to Yair Lapid and informed him that I am entrusting him with forming a government, whether this is a government that he will head at the beginning, or a government headed by someone else first in which he will serve as alternate prime minister,” Rivlin said in his address. (Canberra Times)

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    Chad

    5 min EV battery swap system, in operation..
    https://youtu.be/8VfkOSbzN1c

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    May 2, 2021 at 12:10 pm
    Tony, something else to consider:

    US has about 1100 GW of installed generating capacity. All sources.
    US consumes about 13 million bbl petroleum daily for transportation (~ 159 liters/bbl). One bbl petroleum is equivalent to 1.7 MWhr . This is equivalent to 920 GW each hour of every day. I looked at US, UK and AU. Their petroleum usage ranges between 79% and 84% of generation capacity. The US uses petroleum at the equivalent of about 84% of electrical generation capacity. UK and AU are somewhere around 80% of installed generation equivalent.

    A Tesla mechanical energy output at the wheels is about 63% to 80% efficient, depends on speed. Take and avg of 72% vs. ICE at about 27% overall energy efficiency. 72% of 920 GW is ~ 662 GW.

    So, if the US wants to go with EVs, charging them in a 24 hr period would require an additional 662 GW of generation every hour of the day. If you want to charge the EVs in 8 hours, you’d need an additional 1,987 GW of generation..

    Lance + others interested in the energy required for EV operation…..
    ……. Sorry for the delayed response, but i have to question the above figures
    The USA has 225 million licenced drivers who each average 38 miles per day..
    https://policyadvice.net/insurance/insights/how-much-do-americans-drive/
    If the ALL changed to driving EVs for that 38 miles that would require 7.6 kWhs per day each
    ( a typical EV uses 0.2kW per mile .. supply to road figure)
    So those 225 million drivers would consume daily 225 x 7.6 = 1,710 million kWhs ( or GWh)
    So if, as you say the USA has 1,100 GW of generation capacity ( 26,400 GWh per day) , then the EV requirement would only be 6.5% of available capacity !
    AND, as the US only actually consumes 10,400 GWh per day, ..
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/201794/us-electricity-consumption-since-1975/
    …. that additional 1710 GWh should be well within existing capacity. ?
    Maybe i am missing Trucks, Busses, etc, so heck, double my numbers, ..but there is still a LOT of spare capacity in the USA system

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    Dennis

    No matter what your trade in vehicle is the new “by order your government” value is scrap value, but the government will generously subsidise your new EV with a few thousand dollars bringing the drive away price for a small car EV to more than double the price of an equivalent now banned internal combustion engine ICEV.

    In Australia 70-80 per cent of the electricity you recharge your EV batteries with will be generated in power stations using fossil fuels to produce the steam.

    You will be happy to know that odourless and invisible, essential for life CO2 emissions will be eliminated at the EV, do not ask questions about the real reduction which is zero.

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      Chad

      Dennis
      May 7, 2021 at 2:40 pm ·
      No matter what your trade in vehicle is the new “by order your government” value is scrap value, but the government will generously subsidise your new EV with a few thousand dollars bringing the drive away price for a small car EV to more than double the price of an equivalent now banned internal combustion engine ICEV

      Dennis,.. the “proposal” at the moment , is to ban sales of new ICEs by 2035/ 45/50/pick a date.
      There is currently no suggestion of banning the use of existing ICEs.
      It is possible that the lack of supply of NEW ICEs, may actually make pre owned ones much more valuable ?
      ……just as we are seeing currently with some of the Toyota UTEs which are in short supply from the dealers. One/two year old used vehicles are changing hands for more than the showroom price of a new one !
      My comment was unrelated to the science, emotion, or Politics of switching to EV based transport, but only to correct the misconception that there could never be enough electricity supply to support their use…..which is simply wrong..!

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    el gordo

    The South China Sea is not only of strategic importance.

    ‘The seabed of the South China Sea contains an abundant supply of small lumps of minerals known as polymetallic nodules. China has developed the most advanced deep-sea extraction technology in the world, and its ability to harvest polymetallic nodules and the rare earths within them is unparalleled.

    ‘With the emerging mining code coming out of the International Seabed Authority, the best way for China to ensure continued access to these seabed minerals and an offshore supply of rare earths would be to treat these waters as sovereign territory.’ (The Diplomat)

    Its also worth noting that China already produces 90% of the world’s consumption of rare earths.

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      Jit

      Enoch, thanks for the link. That is a very thorough and balanced report, well put together. The pressure to obtain astounding results that are of Science or Nature importance must be intense. But it is hard to believe that integrity could be less important to a young scientist.

      This story has legs…

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      el gordo

      I second the motion, fabulous read.

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    another ian

    Something to look forward to

    “Rise of the Climate Change Stinkies: NYT Wants you to Shower Less and Stop Using Toilet Paper”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/07/rise-of-the-climate-change-stinkies-nyt-wants-you-to-shower-less-and-stop-using-toilet-paper/

    (/s)

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      another ian

      The old UK “APC” doesn’t get a mention

      Note the reference in there to US EPA aims to restrict refrigeration gas

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    robert rosicka

    Behind paywall , CCP were playing around with using virus as a weapon 5 years ago.

    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6253087969001?fbclid=IwAR1i0rLEXUTay-mWOpE2w5k3HCoQCxa5auANwCAZktSwyg3QzjL2T4le0og

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    Chilling warning from Beijing to BOMB Australia with long-range missiles should Canberra support US military action in Taiwan
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9558017/Astonishing-advice-Beijings-mouthpiece-bomb-Australia-Canberra-support-action.html

    Scott Morrison claims Australia’s international borders will be closed ‘INDEFINITELY’ to protect our way of life as the Covid-19 pandemic continues to cause havoc across the world
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9557995/Australias-borders-remain-closed-protect-social-freedoms-prime-minister-Scott-Morrison-says.html

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