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Chinese Cyberwarfare attack on the US election claims Mike Lindell Video

“The biggest attack in history?”

For those without much time, watch (below) from 1 hour 36 mins where Mary Fanning goes through forensic evidence listing logs she claims shows foreign interference. The data offered allegedly shows the timestamp, the IP, the attempts, which county and the ID of the computer they broke into, how many votes were switched, the method used, and whether there was a firewall intrusion. Apparently “there are thousands of pages of documentation like this.” Fully 66% of the attacks or intrusions are apparently coming from China, from Hauwei, Cloud service, Alibaba, China Unicom, U cloud, China mobile T-tong etc.

Youtube and Twitter have deleted Lindell’s video and banned him. Isn’t it better if these claims gets aired and discussed in detail so the voters of the US can feel assured that elections are free and fair, or that if this is real, problems with elections will be resolved.

Details of "vote adjustments" done by foreign IP addresses.

Details of “vote adjustments” done by foreign IP addresses.

UPDATE: See the note at the base * checking these IP’s.

Unless someone went out there faking up thousands of pages of details, this would be warfare.

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UPDATE: If these logs are faked it presumably would be easy for people with accurate records to point out the errors or misalignments.  These are extraordinary claims. Clearly this needs a lot of discussion and corroboration.

The New York Times claims there are three false claims in the documentary.  Though most of Kellen Browning and appear to be the same generic assertions that have been made many times in the last month or two. They are not detailed discussions of the evidence. Most of the rebuttals make the claim there is “no evidence” but they don’t acknowledge that proper audits could not be done, the ballots and machines were often not provided, and the recounts usually did not check signatures. It’s like wearing a blindfold and saying “there is nothing to see”. That doesn’t make Lindell’s claims correct either, but leaves us back at the start. Why is any ballot machine or ballot not easily available for examination under public scrutiny with observers from both sides? How is it that the leading democracy in the world has questions like this hanging over the outcome when in large part they could be resolved? 

The New York Times

  1. Dominion files were not manipulated. The Times says many of these claims come from Antrim County and that a hand counted audit affirmed the outcome there. (Though in the video, there are many counties involved).
  2. Foreign countries did not interfere with voting machines. The NY Times links to this politifact story  It says that there is no credible evidence ” according to federal agencies, state election officials and numerous court decisions. The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) said it was the most secure election in history, but it didn’t explain most of the anomalies. John Ratcliffe, director of national intelligence argued there was more Chinese involvement than was written in the Intelligence Report Donald Trump requested. The Ombudsman agreed with Radcliffe that the report appeared politicized. Material was kept out ‘because Trump could have used it to make “misleading” claims.’ As far as the legal decisions go, we know most of those courts didn’t consider any evidence and ruled the cases out on technicalities. It would be more useful if the NY Times investigated the ownership of Dominion and found no basis for the Lindell claims.
  3. Biden votes were not counted multiple times: They are referring specifically to claims by Ms. Carone, “whose testimony was ruled “not credible” by a Michigan judge in November, told Mr. Lindell that when ballots jammed inside the machine, people tabulating the votes were re-scanning dozens of ballots and counting them twice.”

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The Mike Lindell Documentary “Absolute Proof”:

The presentation claims the vote totals are subtracted from Donald Trump and if it is correct he really won 80 million votes compared to 68 million for Joe Biden.

Map of intrusions

Intrusions mostly came from China but also from the middle East, Iran, and Eastern Europe.

There was a lot of foreign “help” for voters in Michigan and Georgia who clearly didn’t know how to vote correctly.

Cyberwarfare against voters in Georgia

UPDATE: One America News showed this documentary with an extensive ninety second disclaimer that said effectively that Mr. Lindell was “solely and exclusively responsible for its content,” and noted that “this program is not the product of OAN’s reporting” and was “presented at this time as opinions only.”


That movie is on his site:  michaeljlindell.com/

At 16 minutes Phil Waldron claims to have documentation that there is Chinese company ownership of the private equity firm whose board controls Dominion. He claims that a President of a Chinese communist bank is involved, and the only company with code and testing for Dominion is in China and it is CCP controlled.

Dominion and Smartmatic, no doubt, deny that any votes were changed. It is such a shame the winning Democrats did not allow forensic auditing of votes, or machine analysis and duplication of hard drive records to show how false all these claims are and to put everyone’s mind at rest. Dominion (and Smartmatic) must lead the charge to insist that all ballots and machines are immediately made available for a proper check so everyone can see how secure and unhackable these machines are.

h/t Chris D.  Bob Dinn, Susan Fraser.

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UPDATE: Fanning writes at The American Report and authored a book with Alan Jones called The Hammer is the key to the Coup, August 2020.

UPDATE #2: Checking those IP’s. Perhaps someone who knows more about IPs than me, can tell me if there are good reasons they don’t necessarily all match or whether there is a better IP identifier. Here are the top 6 IPs in the “Target” column of the first image on this page above.

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123 comments to Chinese Cyberwarfare attack on the US election claims Mike Lindell Video

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    OldOzzie

    Jo,

    that is amazing

    Dominion, no doubt, denies that any votes were changed. Such a shame the winning Democrats did not allow forensic auditing of votes, or machine analysis and duplication of hard drive records to show how false all these claims are and to put everyone’s mind at rest. Dominion must lead the charge to insist that all ballots and machines are immediately made available for a proper check so everyone can see how secure and unhackable these machines are.

    Meanwhile

    Hans von Spakovksy: Democrat Marc Elias Using Trump’s Argument Against Voting Machines

    Hans von Spakovsky, the manager of the conservative Heritage Foundation’s Election Law Reform Initiative, mocked Democrat lawyer Marc Elias for claiming faulty voting machines affected a congressional election in New York.

    Spakovsky noted that Elias was trying to overturn an apparent Republican victory: “Guess what? He’s out there contesting it, and he’s saying, ‘Why, there’s something wrong with the voting machines there.’ Does that sound familiar?”

    As Breitbart News reported earlier this week, Elias is claiming that faulty voting machines, procedural irregularities, and violations of state law are responsible for legitimate votes being denied to Democratic candidate Anthony Brindisi in New York’s 22nd congressional district, who currently appears to be losing by 125 votes to Republican Claudia Tenney.

    In a legal filing on behalf of Brindisi, Elias wrote (original emphasis):

    In this case, there is reason to believe that voting tabulation machines misread hundreds if not thousands of valid votes as undervotes, (supra at 4), and that these tabulation machine errors disproportionately affected Brindisi, (id.). In addition, Oswego County admitted in a sworn statement to this Court that its tabulation machines were not tested and calibrated in the days leading up to the November 3, 2020 General Election as required by state law and necessary to ensure that the counts generated by tabulation machines are accurate.

    What makes it worse is that the machines whose accuracy Elias is impugning were made by Dominion Voting Systems — the very same outfit that members of Trump’s legal team said was used to somehow steal the election for President Biden. And guess which lawyer led the Democrats’ fight in all contested states to combat Trump’s claim that the presidential race was stolen? Yep, none other than Elias.

    Elias, a partner at the Perkins Coie law firm, is also representing Democrat Rita Hart in an appeal directly to the Democrat-run House of Representatives in an effort to overturn the result of the election in Iowa’s second congressional district, which Hart lost to Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA) by six votes.

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      Clyde Spencer

      OldOzzie
      You said, “Such a shame the winning Democrats did not allow forensic auditing of votes, …”

      Not only is it a shame, it is perplexing why they wouldn’t be anxious to remove the cloud over the legitimacy of Biden’s election. The obvious conclusion is that they were aware of the fraud and didn’t want anyone looking for evidence that would be acceptable in a court of law.

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        OriginalSteve

        How do you impach a person who isnt a President? You cant impach a private individual…

        Ergo…who is currently the President then?

        Biden is apparently physically banned from setting foot in the Pentagon.

        I wonder why the lights in the Whitehouse turn off at 11pm each night?

        Its a real life Truman show where nothing is as it seems……anyone notice how despondent Obummer et al looked in the off moments at the “Inaguration”? They have no where they can run to.

        Watch closely around the world as powerful people resign or step down.

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          Nadia bin Du Natan

          “How do you impach a person who isnt a President? You cant impach a private individual…”

          If you are forced to live under two realities at once you come out with what seems to outsiders to be anomalous behaviour. One reality is that Trump is still the President. After all he won the election by a landslide. So on the one hand the conspirators cannot admit any hint of that reality and on the other hand they have to impeach him because thats how you deal with a President that you don’t like. Put yourself in their shoes and have sympathy for them. You will see that the way they are behaving makes perfect sense. What seems like a new level of bad craziness from the DNC is actually one of the most sane things they have attempted for a long while. Working concurrently with the barbed wire and concrete reinforcement of their own little world.

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            Antoine D’Arche

            Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Especially the frenzy. If they think enough truth will come out….

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            Bushkid

            No sympathy. Not now, not ever.

            Any confusion, mental distress, cognitive dissonance they may be suffering is purely their own doing – and they deserve to wallow in their misery.

            My sympathy is reserved for those 75,000,000 or so Americans who voted for Trump, and got shafted.

            I have a little less sympathy for the unionists working on the pipeline who voted for Biden, then got shafted and lost their jobs at the stroke of a pen on an executive order; or those who cried foul when they eventually heard about Hunter Biden’s laptop, and wanted to change their vote after the event. The information was all out there for them to find. That they didn’t bother to look, or to follow up for themselves on any of what the fake media was calling fake news, is their own problem. Maybe they’ll be wiser in future.

            That the USA is going to go down the proverbial tubes now is of no comfort.

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              Nadia bin Du Natan

              I don’t think many people voted for fake-Biden. He didn’t need their votes and he said so prior to election day.

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          There are claims that Bidens White House is CastleRock studios in CA. See below

          https://welovetrump.com/2021/01/21/castle-rock-new-theory-says-biden-is-on-movie-set-not-in-white-house/

          The other day a clip aired which looked very much where the wall of the set was coming apart….

          Maybe this is all a load of rubbish, but one thing can be said. Bidens White House is more kooky than any previous White House movie…

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      OldOzzie

      DemoCraps “Not for Thee, But Definitely for ME?

      ‘This is incitement’: Dem who lost #NY22 race ‘shocked’ by judge rejecting lawsuit alleging voting machine irregularities

      As we told you last night, a judge dismissed a Democrat lawsuit alleging voting irregularities in New York’s 22nd district, and that finalized Republican Claudia Tenney’s win by a 109 vote margin.

      The incumbent who was defeated, Democrat Anthony Brindisi, is disputing what’s happened in the most ironic way possible considering what the country’s seen these last several weeks:

      Haven’t we been informed repeatedly recently that disputing the result of a free and fair election is a direct threat to democracy?

      I have been told by my “betters” in government and the media that this language is seditious and rooted in white supremacy.

      And no “this claim is disputed” or “misinformation about the election” flags from Twitter?

      Hey Twitter, where’s his election fraud warning?

      Wow, the double standards are getting overwhelming!

      – We were told by the democrats and their media allies that questioning the outcome of elections was an affront to democracy.

      – But apparently you are NOT shocked by the “countless errors and discrepancies throughout the initial count” that gave Joe Biden the presidential election victory.

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        Simon B

        Many cliches come to mind; ‘live by the sword, die by the sword’. ‘The truth will come back to haunt you’. ‘You reap what you sow’. ‘There are no victims in a corrupt environment’. None of which should make anyone happy, as this is now the benchmark for providing ‘the fairest election in history’. Or as Time magazine described it in their recent essay; ‘fortifying’the election ensuring ALL votes were counted, through a concerted effort of brave individuals and organisations going back 12 months to ensure Trump didn’t steal the election, including interrupting the fliw of disinformation via social media. Leftwing spin for ‘we will use the $300m given by tech oligarchs to disseminate a narrative that Trump will steal the election to remain leader for life to incentivise and mobilise hard left idealists and activists to do our bidding believing they’re fighting fascism. Tolerance industry useful idiots. Too bad for Brandisi, just not important enough for the big guns to be fired at HIS opponent, but hey, he should be elated, his organization has the Oval Office, Congress and Senate,he’ll get a job for life without having to worry about irritating electionns. Sadly, from the evidence, neither will any future ‘Democrats’ who want a lifetime of tax payer funds to build their $40m property portfolios, like Unity Joe!

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        Great Aunt Janet

        Surely, we all know by now, that voting machines and software, even if they are connected to the internet or have open USB drives, just can’t be hacked or interfered with. That just doesn’t happen to software or computers, nope, never heard of it before. So just stop asking.

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          Greg Cavanagh

          Dominion CEO said on camera that the machines don’t have internet capability.

          Yet Symantec (the virus company) years before (2018) bought a dominion voting machine and demonstrated how to hack it.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmoxE1sJc1c

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          Henning Nielsen

          I know, this annoying accusation of voter machine hacking can easily be put to rest. I have repeatedly asked my computer “Can I hack you?”, and the machine just does not even deign to reply to such a silly question.

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      OldOzzie

      From UpThread – Ian G
      February 7, 2021 at 6:36 am · Reply
      https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/02/05/the-guilty-party/

      Very interesting. Setting a precedent? Or one rule for the Dems, none for thee.

      Democrat lawyers w/ Perkins Coie fighting against seating the winning Republican in NY’s CD 22 are arguing in briefs the voting machines “changed thousands of votes.”

      No big surprise this is not getting a lot of attention.
      #Elections

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      Ian

      Basing a comment on Breitbart News is not really a realistic action as Breitbart News is a far right Conservative newspaper. As most commenters here seem to be far right Conservatives I can understand why Breitbart News is held up as reliable but in reality it ain’t. Why not look for an article that doesn’t support Breitbart and compare the two rather than just blindly accepting Breitbart News as being gospel truth?

      Similarly the Mike Lindell Documentary is suspect as a) he is a far right Republican, b) is an avid supporter of Donald Trump and c)a promoter of a conspiracy theory alleging that voting machine companies Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems had conspired with foreign powers to rig voting machines to steal the election from Trump.

      This documentary contains claims such as 66,000 underage people voted in Georgia, when the number of people under the age of 18 who requested a ballot was actually four, and all of them turned 18 prior to November 3, according to Raffensperger’s office.

      Another claim is that 130,000 people illegally voted in Wisconsin through the state “illegally expanding the definition of indefinite confinement,” because county and state election officials allowed some voters to vote by mail during the pandemic—even though these decisions were made in March, and even though the majority-Republican Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled in December that it was up to voters to decide whether they’re “indefinitely confined.”

      You Tube and Vimeo have removed it. OAN gave a lengthy disclaimer before it was shown advising viewers that “the statements and claims expressed in this program are presented at this time as opinions only and are not intended to be taken or interpreted by the viewer as established facts.” Not a good intro to a doco called Absoluter Proof

      Why this documentary is published here is surprising but what is even more surprising is many here believe it to be true. It contains no new material and is just a re-hash of Trumps debunked claims

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        RooDog

        The blind leading the blind. Not too many blind here for you to lead Ian.

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          Ian

          “The blind leading the blind. Not too many blind here for you to lead Ian.”

          You are right of course there are not too many blind here but there sure are a whole bunch of those who choose not to see as is apparent by the numbers here who steadfastly cling to the debunked claims of the “stolen election”.

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        Nadia bin Du Natan

        “Basing a comment on Breitbart News is not really a realistic action as Breitbart News is a far right Conservative newspaper”

        Breitbart was started as a limited hangout with the help of some Israeli Yahoo who I won’t name. The problem with these guys who are big in the oligarchy is that the one talent they do have better than anyone else is that of the talent scout. Because they are too useless to do the work themselves. I think that yahoos talent scout capacities have backfired in this one instance. Because you get these astonishing people like Steve Bannon. I just have to shake my head in amazement and wonderment at this fellow. Sometimes less is more. Sometimes more is less. Sometimes succeeding too well is a downside, if there is evil in our heart.

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        Antoine D’Arche

        So this is what gaslighting is! I had to look up the term. Now I get it. Thanks Ian, you’re a champ….

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      William

      Elias knows there was a problem with the voting machines as they did not switch enough votes from the Republican to the Democratic candidate. Clearly an irregularity in Dem world.

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        Nadia bin Du Natan

        Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah a catastrophe. The bad guys almost never give us an even break. What are the estimates for the computer theft? Isn’t it about 3 per cent each side giving about a six per cent advantage to Biden? Turned out that wasn’t enough and they had to go and make fools of themselves. The gene pool must be getting pretty thin at the top.

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    OldOzzie

    Exclusive: The TCF Center Election Fraud – Newly Discovered Video Shows Late Night Deliveries of Tens of Thousands of Illegal Ballots 8 Hours After Deadline

    ** At 3:23 AM The Gateway Pundit has exclusive video of a white van registered to the city of Detroit entering the gate into the TCF Center.
    ** At 3:25 AM we discovered video from a second camera showing three individuals unloading over 50 boxes of ballots in a hallway inside the TCF Building and just outside the counting room.
    ** The ballots were then wheeled away on carts into the ballot counting room.
    ** The van is then seen on video leaving the center about 25 minutes later.
    ** Then we saw the van returning an hour later, entering the TCF Center again and unloading more boxes of ballots.
    ** The white van was escorted by a black sports car for both ballot deliveries.
    ** The white van was allowed through an electronic gate to enter the TCF complex.

    This is video proof of the fraud in Detroit, Michigan. It is exactly as the GOP observers described it to us back in November!

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    another ian

    A comment here that might be of interest to those navigating the Utube et al banning

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/02/04/2-years-of-hell-or-what/#comment-139285

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    Michael Hammer

    If I understand correctly this data was collected by the cyber security office in the United States in real time. Is it true or fake news. If true it represents unquestionable evidence of fraud on a monumental scale. Assuming it is true and the democrats are successful in covering it up it means the USA is no longer a democracy but a totalitarian country under the control of China. That is such a monumental outcome that it beggars belief. The document identifies the exact source of each hack not just the country, not just the organisation but down to the specific source computer and the specific target computer.

    For this to be suppressed means virtually every government AND media organisation including every law enforcement and justice organisation every newspaper, every tv station in the USA is corrupted and entering into the conspiracy. Could things have really got so bad? How come this is not front page news all over. How come it does not spread like wildfire and evoke a major civil response. Either the western world is lost or there is something wrong with this story!!!

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      Peter C

      Either the western world is lost or there is something wrong with this story!

      I think things are hanging in the balance right now! I hope that we are not lost.
      It is a worry that a militiary coup in the USA might be the last hope.

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        John R Smith

        Looks to me like the Mil establishment has gone with DSBidenCCP.
        Who ordered 25,000+ troops to DC?
        Forever GWOT expanded to include American Wrong Thinkers (plus non-compliants throughout the West).
        Appears the Brennan faction is in charge.
        DSBCCP Corp makes millions schwacking goat herders.
        Putin happy with his own fief.

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          John R Smith

          also … the DS and CCP can expand their collection of expensive ocean and air toys by pretending to oppose each other in the Asian Pacific.

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            Richard Jenkins

            CCP plan to build a city in Southern New Guinea. That’s a short trip to the CCP port in Darwin. Dan Andrews loves CCP initiatives. Biden family has huge investments with CCP bank. There are huge CCP buildings we saw on Pacific islands. They are occupied by Chinese.
            USA have let Democrats steal the Free world. If the MSM are boycotted, sued and exposed truth may prevail. Alternative, honest IT infrastructure is the weapon required in this modern world.

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              Dennis

              Port of Darwin is two small areas within the vast area of Darwin Harbour NT.

              There is a significant Australian Defence Forces presence in Darwin and surrounding areas including the RAAF Base not far south near Katherine, US assets and personnel share those bases. Near Alice Springs NT further south is US Base Pine Gap which is their major communications and intelligence gathering facility for Asia Pacific Region.

              US nuclear submarines use the RAN submarine Base in WA.

              The former WW2 military base in PNG, Manus Island, is being renovated and extended, a new base on East Timor is in planning and a new Darwin Harbour base.

              The RAAF operated an “over the horizon” radar system that provides warning of sea and air movements before anything reaches our territorial waters. Add US satellite coverage.

              I do not support the leasing by the NT Government of the Port of Darwin to the Chinese owned shipping firm but please get this in perspective, and that leased or owned facilities can be seized by The Australian Commonwealth Government if necessary, exports can be banned, etc.

              Also, Singapore has military assets based in Australia for training and security purposes and Indonesia cooperates closely with Australia and that Muslim country is no friend of China.

              Our allies are not going to sit back and allow China to invade Australia and steal the natural assets, farmlands, strategic position, and much more.

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                Richard Jenkins

                Dennis are you reassuring me or frightenng me? The ANZUS treaty depends on USA. Biden has more interest in China than Australia. Read Hunter’s laptop! Where was the Bali bombing?
                Iran is on Biden’s give them all they want list.
                China fights modern warefare.
                That includes tarriffs, propaganda, real estate arrangements with the gullible and cyber.
                Look at Chinese control and influence and not so much as a bullet.

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        Orson

        The people need their own new Boston Massacre in order to be galvanised into solidarity.

        The woke Puppet Secretary of Defense 60 day “Standown” to gaslit White Supremacism from the ranks is the far Left’s struggle to purge non-woke and Trump and Constitution support and make the military supplicates of the New Maoist fascism.

        As the great Ayn Rand wrote, “If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the form of socialism.” Or perhaps, as Bernard Henri-Levi almost put it, socialism with a humane face.

        Today, we have racist anti-racism to do just that. Woke theological cover for fascism.

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      Broadie

      Nothing new here. From Herodotus the words of Darius the Persian.

      Again, in a democracy, it is impossible but that there will be malpractices: these malpractices, however, do not lead to enmities, but to close friendships, which are formed among those engaged in them, who must hold well together to carry on their villainies.

      Our freedom has been stolen by the erosion of our Institutions from their foundations. Donald Trump has brought the cockroaches into the light and the American people are restoring their freedoms from the ground up.
      Democracy is imperfect!
      Democracy has a small advantage as it draws on the resources of the people and allows for evolution as we face new challenges.
      Good luck to ‘We the People’ in their fight against the Swamp.

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    OldOzzie

    Trump Says Lou Dobbs “Is & Was Great” After Fox News Cancels ‘#1 Business News’ Show

    From the Comments

    My vote doesn’t count — it’s simply reallocated to the preferred globalist choice by Dominion or shredded by some low IQ jogger counting the ballots.

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    OldOzzie

    ANYONE WHO THINKS THE ELECTIONS WASN’T STOLEN: Left Admits Election 2020 Was “Fortified” The Democrat Way.

    Look, guys, any honest person who knew math knows. I know the left and the right who hates Trump loves to lie to themselves that “everyone hates Trump.”

    1- This is not true.

    2- Most people weren’t crazy about Trump but liked the way he governed.

    3-The election wasn’t only dirty, it was submerged in fraud.

    4-People who haven’t stolen elections don’t fight having fraud looked into.

    5- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t turn DC into occupied territory.

    6- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try so hard to gaslight the country.

    7- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try to turn opposing them into a crime.

    8- People who haven’t stolen elections don’t try to destroy the country they just took over.

    9- More importantly, people who haven’t stolen the election don’t tell us how they STOLE THE ELECTION.

    There is that “consent of the governed.” The left doesn’t think they need it anymore. They think they have it all sewn up.

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      dinn, rob

      People who haven’t taken a penny–ever–
      well, the zeitgeist has caught up with this here “land of free, home of brave.” Our collective Dr. Jekyll does not seem to recall how we built a massive surveillance state, unbacked paper money, double-speak and gender whatever.
      it wasn’t me, i wasn’t there. right. of course, you weren’t there, were you Mr. Hyde? Or is it now Dr. Jekyll, or is it a gender deal now?
      i may not have grabbed a penny but those 20’s, 50’s, 100’s and whatnot just sort of jumped into my pocket. how did that happen anyway? ask your mom.

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      Lawrie

      The lack of “proof” may soon be reversed. https://populist.press/board-of-supervisors-of-maricopa-county-may-soon-face-arrest/. The Arizona Senate is to conduct a full forensic audit in Maricopa County on machines AND ballots. The supervisors are in a catch 22 situation; refusing to co-operate with the Senate could put them in contempt and should the audit find they certified a fraudulent election they could also go to jail. These are the sort of audits that do provide “proof” and if fraud is found here will other states proceed with their own audits? The ballots are the key. Dominion is trying to scare people into submission but are they like Michael Mann and when the time comes for disclosure to stall and stall and stall some more.

      There will be no honest elections until the US returns to paper ballots and voter ID.

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    Ross

    I’m going to say – big deal, whoopy de doo. I have seen so many instances of voter irregularities from the 2020 US presidential election now that my head is about to explode. Witness affadavits, algorithm voting, vote switching, mail in ballots fraud, dead people voting , krakens, untried legal challenges. Now this. Is anyone going to do anything about it? That’s the big question. There appears to be a sizeable proportion of the US voting public who are pretty well convinced the election was stolen. They don’t need any more convincing. As a big fan of the Looney Tunes cartoons there was a point when Daffy Duck said -” if you cant beat them, join them”. So if no-one in the US political or legal system appears to give 2 hoots about these supposed fraudelent activities then it might be time for the GOP, Conservatives, Middle right (whoever) to start some opposition. Maybe just copy what the Democrats have been doing for the last 4 years, get everything in place for the Mid Terms etc. Forget Donald Trump because he had his go and I think shone a very big light into how the good ol’ USA works. From where I sit ,it aint pretty.

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      Well it is a big deal because the election stealers didn’t go in green. So now that conservatives and libertarians have discovered the reality that yes Virginia … there really are conspiracies … to see what these monstrous troglodytes will do next, we have to go back and figure out what they have been doing already. What position are these people in now? Are they backed against the wall? Do we now acknowledge that a facebook associated fellow had a hand in certain events in Christchurch? Suppose we dismissed this idea in the past? But now we see that he contributed something like half a billion dollars to the election theft? Might we reappraise the rumours about him? Even the rumour that he is a fake personality coming out of an oligarchical family?

      Until we find out what they have done in the past, and can put ourselves in their shoes we cannot know how the Covid terrorist attacks, the treatment denial, the election steal and the faux-Vaccine rollouts, all dovetail together in the one strategy going forward. Now it may be that we would want to interrogate such people and preferably at the end of a rope. But satisfying as such daydreams are, any information you got wouldn’t be believed anyway. So really what is required is for conservative/libertarian types to have a really good think about the world around them. The left are useless but if the conservatives get their act together than maybe something can be done about this catastrophe. Conservatives are serious people. People who can get things done.

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    WokeBuster

    Its not out of the realm of possibility that there may be cyber foreign interference but I’m wondering how they come to conclusion that votes were switched from Trump. Were the Trump switches retrospectively time stamp matched to the intrusions from another data source? Or was the command to switch captured as part the intrusion? . Where did this information come from? How was it collected? What are Mary Fanning’s credentials? I want Trump to be proven the legitimate winner of the 2020 election as anyone else, but I need more proof than a spreadsheet.

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      TedM

      “but I’m wondering how they come to conclusion that votes were switched from Trump”.
      Watch the video!!!!

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        WokeBuster

        I did watch it but I want to see the actual captured computer instructions saying switch 17300 votes to Trump. If you have that then you are home and hosed. The other question I have is why did they not come forward earlier with this information. This would have been handy to have in the weeks immediately after the election.

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          Nadia bin Du Natan

          No you are not home and hosed if you have some specific piece of evidence. We already know that these troglodytes stole the election. And we aren’t home and hosed. Knowing what happened doesn’t mean you can do much about it. So your theory about being home and hosed is wrong. I’m continually amazed at how people put forward theories already proven wrong.

          We’ve had a corporatist version of the 1917 Bolshevik takeover …….. happen to our most important ally. Thats not being home and hosed. The killing started right away in 1917 of course. But the real population reduction in the millions was about 15 years away. So you don’t want to be glib about this. Because we have already had that kind of culling in the Middle East and so we can expect the same sort of conspiracies to arrive in our territories as well.

          The diagnosis of a colour revolution was made prior to the election and found to be true from about 10.30 pm onwards, in the key contested states, on election night. There is no one piece of information that this diagnosis relies on. It makes no difference whether the Corporate Bolsheviks hand over the computers or not. The diagnosis is not up to nitwits setting one-sided epistemological rules on the fly.

          ” The other question I have is why did they not come forward earlier with this information. This would have been handy to have in the weeks immediately after the election.”

          Can you just think about this a little bit harder? If thats not too much to ask? And no your second theory is wrong also. It would make no difference if they came up with the results earlier or later. Because we knew that the election was stolen when we woke up in the morning. And that made no difference at all. You may have to understand that you are not real smart.

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        Rock

        Millions of ballot images were sent outside the US and replaced with one altered by foreign actors. They then replaced the original images in the county voting systems. Traffic monitoring was set up ahead of time and caught both images.

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        WokeBuster

        Ironically, Democrats are also claiming machine switching in NYC: https://twitter.com/PeterRoff/status/1357341461893681157 Will be interesting to see if Lindell’s 1000s of pages of intrusions also shows any votes switching to Trump. If that could be shown in Lindell’s data that would help confirm what we are seeing is legit. Might also be a problematic for the Chinese hacker who accidentally (or maybe intentionally) increased Trump’s vote. I’d be going into hiding.

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    RossP

    This puts a “new light” on the Dominion defamation law suits, they throwing around like confetti. They are dead and buried.

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      Scissor

      Those suits are like a two edged sword, and it seems likely that one side will have their heads cut off. How does it not become bloody?

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      Lawrie

      Dominion figure if the suit is big enough it will scare people into submission. If their bluff is called they have to have disclosure which also means a thorough investigation of the machines and this is where the observers and their affidavits come in. Votes were changed in Antrim county and that might take some explaining for machines that are foolproof and not connected to the internet.

      I was under the impression that the date stamp of the cyber attacks corresponded to the official tally so that was how the number of votes deleted/transferred was determined. The question as to why this information was not available earlier could be answered by the sheer volume of activity and the effort required to compile it and to authenticate with cross references. You should remember some of the rushed suits that were poorly prepared and then embarrassingly thrown out of court. They now have time to get it right.

      It will not change the President but it will make Joe a pretender and a laughing stock along with the rest of the Democrats. Can any recent election be certified? Are those two Georgia Senators legit?

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    Serp

    Thanks for sticking with this story Jo.

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    Michael Hammer

    Further to my previous comment, I just did a quick check supposedly “The Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) has dismissed claims that computerized fraud affected the 2020 presidential election.” The basis of the claim of fraud is the detailed information in the document, if the information is right then fraud is more or less proven. So is CISA specifically claiming the document is fraudulent? If it is; is the correlation between computer source identifier and physical location correct or wrong? Is the correlation between target computer and physical site right or wrong? If they are wrong the document is worthless but if they are right how was that data obtained. Also, how was the rest of the data fabricated? I would have thought that would require some very sophisticated resources. Surely these are very specific questions that need to be asked – extremely basic investigative journalism.

    What worries me is that many journalists dream of the opportunity of a major scoop. This, if it turned out to be correct, would be a scoop that would eclipse Watergate, the impact on reputation and newspaper sales could scarcely be imagined. Yet essentially all journalists are prepared to turn their back on a scoop of such magnitude for the sake of “the cause”? I dont like what Biden is doing and I really dont like the takeover of western society by the left but we still need to maintain careful rational evaluation of the data being presented .

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      Peter C

      What worries me is that many journalists dream of the opportunity of a major scoop. This, if it turned out to be correct, would be a scoop that would eclipse Watergate, the impact on reputation and newspaper sales could scarcely be imagined. Yet essentially all journalists are prepared to turn their back on a scoop of such magnitude for the sake of “the cause”? I dont like what Biden is doing and I really dont like the takeover of western society by the left but we still need to maintain careful rational evaluation of the data being presented .

      I am not sure what you are trying to say here Mike?
      Are the Jourmos all corrupt, or not?

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        Michael Hammer

        Peter; journo’s corrupt or not know where their self interest lies. Given that, one has to ask the question why are they not going after this story. I can think of three possible answers; 1) the are more committed to socialism than their own career (I have some trouble with that view) 2) they know or strongly suspect the story is wrong in some way and suspect that pursuing it will do them more harm than good or 3) they are being intimidated to leave it alone.

        Ask yourself which is the most likely but let me say self interest is usually a very reliable bet. However my main point is, this claim is very specific and very testable with the sort of questions I outlined earlier and I think it is important that such questions are asked.

        I could also ask, given the track record and courage of reporters such as Peta Credlin at Skynews why is there no mention of this material by reporters like her. This seems to me to be almost in the category of “too good to be true” and we need to retain some skepticism.

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          Scissor

          I agree. In this instance, however, with ongoing lawsuits, how can this be ignored by the MSM?

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          Antoine D’Arche

          Riccardo Bosi has a name for Credlin and her colleagues at Sky: controlled opposition

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          Michael
          When your editor will not allow you to investigate or publish a story then its pretty difficult for the journalist to proceed….

          Peta Credlin ultimately will have Rupert Murdoch against her. I have seen Chris Kenny, who I regarded as a good journalist, parroting the absolute rubbish about this being a fair election, so it turns out he is more keen on his job than the truth. Or he has been leaned on – no doubt they have some button they can push here.

          But the key tell here, as mentioned by others above, is that the Democrats have gone out of their way to avoid any possible investigation. If they were truely for democracy in the US they would have let investigations take place. They have resisted and smeared like all Leftists do when they cannot win an argument. No doubt any who attempted to say anything have had a visit from Antifa after midnight (like Josh Hawleys family did) threatening all sorts of things. A friend of mine had a debt collector friend many years ago who used such tactics (illegal these days) and Rob asserted that he had a 100% success rate..

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    Simon

    If the electronic vote count were changed, then there would be a mismatch with the paper voting forms that would be evident in any recount.

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      TedM

      If you actually watched the video you would see that is exactly what was demonstrated.
      Simon you obviously make your rather mundane, drive by comments without any genuine intellectual or academic endeavour.

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        Simon

        No it doesn’t. The video also doesn’t explain how hacking occurs over multiple disparate systems. One of the strengths (and weaknesses) of the US system is there is no commonality in how counties and states collect and tally votes. Most have separate electronic and paper systems so a hack has to corrupt both without the voter or auditor noticing.

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      Thats a ridiculous assumption if they don’t save the paper Simon. In many cases they are required legally only to save THE IMAGE of the paper. A requirement which they can flout with impunity since 1. they can stop people seizing the computers and trying to analyse them forensically, and 2. in any case legality is being flouted openly.

      Once you allow these computers you’ve given up on free elections. Its not appropriate technology for the problem to hand. You can’t make these things up on the fly in your head Simon. You have to accept that this was a stolen election, and then if you are interested in the details, then you can see how the steal happened. Its not a belly-button gazing effort that needs to be made here.

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    Nadia bin Du Natan

    If people are a little bit down about the repeat of the 1917 Bolshevik revolution (this time in the US and under Corporatist rather than communist ideology) …. the idea might just be to buy some sheets from Mr Lindell. We ought to be supporting small manufacturing anyway. Plus he looks like he isn’t going to back off so long as he’s making a living. It might even lead to better sleep.

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    Susan Fraser

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/breaking-us-supreme-court-schedules-pennsylvania-election-case-sidney-powells-michigan-case-lin-woods-georgia-case-feb-19-conference/

    Absolute Proof comes out today, and ‘coincidentally’ the Supreme Court finds time to hear two Election Fraud cases…

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      Jojodogfacedboy

      Can’t dispute the massive foreign interference by China in paper form and cyber attack form.
      This would make Biden disqualified to be President by Constitution.
      Nicely fits after the Impeachment failure as well.

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        Nadia bin Du Natan

        “Can’t dispute the massive foreign interference by China…”

        From Chinese territory. We don’t want to let anyone get the local traitors off the hook here. Yes its true that the CCP is involved, but that tentative conclusion comes from evidence other than the geography of computer hacking. But of course the Americans involved are going to use any number of countries as human shields. The hacking came geographically from many different countries. Which says nothing about the identity, or indeed the ethnicity, of the people involved.

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          Saighdear

          ‘says nothing about the identity, or indeed the ethnicity, of the people involved.’ So true. but what’s that about evil wrongdoings underthe shelter of someonel else’s roof ?

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            Nadia bin Du Natan

            I like Sidney Powell. But when they were tracking where the computer hacking was coming from, they were coming up with countries that the American media had traditionally demonised. So it was Venezuela and Iran and others. So sure we want to be factual about the geographic territory of where the hacking is coming from. But I see a danger where Bannon followers will merely take this as an opportunity to demonise the CCP (a fine thing to do) but to such a degree that other networks more firmly rooted in the US are let off the hook. Its the same networks when it comes to the virus. People wanted to put it all on a fish market, which is ridiculous, and then they come kicking and screaming to the idea that its a creature of biological warfare. But even then they want to just make it a cause for projecting pressure at the CCP (a worthy cause) but at the expense of letting the local traitors off the hook. When they can the local traitors will hide behind Iran or Venezuela. That would seem to be standard practice.

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    PeterS

    We are now bashing our heads against two brick walls. One, is the climate change/emission reduction wall, the other is the soft coup in the US. In both cases we have lost the battles to the dark side. Perhaps Trump has a surprise for us all on the second front but I won’t be holding my breath. Time will tell though. Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see how the Great Reset plays out.

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      Serp

      The Great Reset is supposed to be for the rest of our lives isn’t it? Likely we’ll be expected to express gratitude through the payment of an annual fee.

      End times, nirvana, call it what you will, humanity has arrived there again and without any trace of deja vu; quite an achievement.

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      The most likely way that the Great Reset plays out is with a revolution. Give me liberty or give me death was the rallying cry for the first American revolution and the attacks on liberty coming from the progressive socialists makes the oppression by the regime of King George on the colonies look insignificant by comparison.

      America set the precident that freedom is worth fighting for. Of course, the sleeping woke have already condemned the American Revolution with the 1619 project. It seems that they are trying to get people to forget the important role that the desire for freedom played in the formation of America.

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        PeterS

        The difference in modern America compared to it’s early days is today more and more consider the Constitution of the US more as a nuisance that needs to be ignored if not disbanded. I agree it won’t end well since there still will be many millions of Americans who will not have a bar of the new draconian regime, but it won’t necessarily be by violence. It’s possible it could just all end by a break up of the union. It would be more peaceful that way. Time will tell which way it will go. The more violent ending is more likely though and it’s not that easy nor simple for a state to secede.

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    Bonbon

    Lesson learned: Being gullible doesn’t make you right.

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    UK-Weather Lass

    Unfortunately we seem to have reached a critical point where ‘truth’ is determined by who can shout the longest without being censored or silenced by whatever means can be found. And that theatre is complete when politicians masquerading as actors reading to an agreed script trump the words of anyone who attempts to speak with both heart and mind.

    The USA is in a battle between honesty and the travesty of human values which appears to be driving a large proportion of the Democratic Party and its supporters. Liars eventually tell just one lie too many. Let’s hope the MSM have their minds sorted in time to catch the moment.

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      We Americans are witnessing a battle between Nixon’s National Socialists and the Soviet Socialists his (and George Wallace’s party, since assimilated by GOP) policies summoned into the Dems by way of reaction. The phenomenon occurred first in 1920 and 1929, when Prohibition and the Increased penalties law resulted in crashes with first a tripling, then a 700% increase in communist party membership which burdened the policies of the FDR Administration. But now we have a Libertarian Party, which is much like the bleachers in “All Quiet on the Western Front” from which servicemen watched archbishops and field marshals in Remarque’s idyllic fantasy. Both looter parties deserve each other and one can only pity the dupes of either horde.

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    CHRIS

    This topic is an absolute *YAWN*. Speculate, speculate, speculate…it seems that realism and pragmatism does not exist here. While there may be some truth in this topic, why not JUST MOVE ON and confront the REAL issues, such as CAGW and the CCP attempting global domination

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      Harry Passfield

      Chris, there is far more chance that this election fraud is for real than the scam that is climate change/AGW.
      It’s ironic – and paradoxical – that those who deny the ‘steal’, for which there is a lot of evidence, are more likely to be true believers of AGW, for which there is little or none.
      BTW: if you fear CC you had better look out for the climate minimum on its way. Being a lot colder then will be far more dangerous for you than being a tad (naturally) warmer.

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      So we don’t talk about it when our most important ally is subject to a coup? There is no speculation in that. ” While there may be some truth in this topic…..” Some truth? You want to get that right for starters.

      However perhaps the focus ought to be on what can be done about this. Since we don’t have any kind of sane ally now it implies we need to go to a fortress Australia defence stance. Its pretty scary since the troglodytes have brought in the CCP as partners. So if China and the USA are soon to be allied they can be allied against us. All former USA allies can be betrayed. So cover your mouth when you yawn because you cannot seriously think there are no consequences to a coup in the USA.

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      Rock

      The US election and follow-on attacks on freedom ARE “CCP attempting global domination” in action!

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    Flyboy 46

    One of the counties outside Chicago was investigating the vote and discovered that Dominion was REQUIRING all people who signed their contracts to pledge to PROTECT their software and systems from disclosure under Open Govt laws. This is in direct conflict with public officials duties under their state or local laws of demanding they be accountable to the public. THIS should immediately be investigated by every jurisdiction that uses their machines, and punished immediately at EVERY level.

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    Clyde Spencer

    “Most of the rebuttals make the claim there is ‘no evidence’”

    Yes, the Democrat lap dogs (aka MSM pundits) make baseless, unsupported assertions that the claims of fraud are “baseless” and “unsupported.” They have the advantage of being in a position to say it often enough the the gullible may start believing it.

    In the meantime, Yahoo ‘news’ still has not removed the noose around comments, except sporadically on unimportant topics like what the glitterati are wearing to gain attention.

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    UPDATE #2: Checking those IP’s?

    Perhaps someone who knows more about IPs than me, can tell me if there are good reasons they don’t necessarily all match or whether there is a better IP identifier. Here are the top 6 IPs in the “Target” column of the first image on this page above.

    https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/66.129.42.43 = Emmet county. (Matches)
    https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/159.233.2.2 = Pima County (Matches)
    https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/74.174.32.228 = Qwinnett County  (Matches)
    https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/207.38.72.55 = None detected. ?
    https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/67.192.61.135 = North America ? (Not Houghton County)
    https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/216.245.224.78 = Grawn Michigan (not Antrim County?)
    h/t Panda

    I know many IP’s get reassigned. Is this a reasonable check to do 3 months after the event?

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      WokeBuster

      You will need historical IP resolution data. A site like: https://securitytrails.com/ can provide this but not for everything. So for example in your list where you have 207.38.72.55 as not “detected”. It comes up as EffinghamCounty : https://securitytrails.com/list/ip/207.38.72.55

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      dp

      You will discover a lot of IP addresses resolve to the geographical center of the hosting country which in the US is near Lebanon, Kansas. 207.38.72.55, for example, is in the center of Cheney Lake near the town of Lebanon, Kansas. Oddly enough that is also where microsoft.com (40.113.200.201) is located.

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      Global Cooling

      This image is just an illustration. Communication logs do not contain “votes reversed” information such as the last column. IP:s does not tell much. IP can be hidden with VPN and majority of ip:s are dynamic. Logs may be destroyed.

      This story relies on the mentioned security experts. Did they have access to the computers, firewalls and data and did they interpret them properly? Just an image of a smoking gun is not enough. You have to connect it to the murder.

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    John

    There is an awful aspect to this: having very effectively destabilised the US through cyberwarfare in the election, what would the US’s enemies want now? Further destabilisation, i.e they don’t want the US people to get used to Biden, they want to keep the issue alive. And here we are.

    Like almost everyone else on the thread, I am totally furious over the whole election rigging. The only way out of this for the US is a robust investigation into it. Both sides must be brought closer together and the country unified (or not more polarised) quickly. Taiwan must be feeling really scared at the moment

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      Very insightful comments John. But by golly you set a high bar. How about go over to John Quiggins place and try to build bridges with those guys, just as a kind of dry run to reconciliation. If you pass that test then cleaning the Augean stables, defeating the hydra, stealing the golden apples, getting the Israelis to be more humane to their neighbours ……. These will constitute “no biggee” right?

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        OriginalSteve

        Its time for the right to get organized at the grass roots level and start getting the leftist voted out of everything from PTAs through to local concils.

        The Left has infiltrated everything and needs to be routed from all institutions to allow the population to own thier country again.

        About 2% of the population, who are hard core leftists are shouting in our faces….time to shout back and back them down.

        Alea Iacta Est

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          Nadia bin Du Natan

          Sure. But get out of debt and if you are well positioned to get yourself a great garden do that too. Get your wife or eldest daughter to take an interest in firearms and get them trained up and so they can teach you. If you are engaged in scandalous behaviour that might lead to your wifes disfavour, 2021 might be the time to bite the bullet and bring that sort of icing to a close.
          Winter is coming and its no time to have Max Cady hanging out there behind your shrubbery. My informants tell me that all past sins of conservatives are forgiven .

          But just help us get out of this mess.

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    Harry Passfield

    Well, I watched the whole video. Now, I’m a believer – and not even an American (but know we will all suffer from the crooked result) – but I just felt that Mike Lindell, not being an experienced expose reporter on TV, should not have reported this blockbuster.
    It really needed expert editing, expert hosting and expert production (fewer ‘wow’s’ from Mike and more engagement with his ‘expert’ guests, for instance).
    Put it this way, I took it all in but would be hesitant to share it with sceptical friends.

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      Annie

      Ditto; watched the whole thing but was irritated by all the ‘wows’ and interrupting his guests when they were talking or seemed about to elaborate on something really interesting.
      On the other hand, he seems a decent chap. We need some new pillows, so maybe we can look for his brand!

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        My thoughts too Harry.

        This would look so much more authoritative if it had a pro delivery. PRoper scripting and autocue. Edited images and some video footage. More like the Epoch team.

        It’s not something I could easily get friends to watch who were not already interested.

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          Simon

          That video will only convince the gullible.

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          pbw

          Mike Lindell shares Trump’s unfortunate tendency to bluster and boosterism. It works much better in the US. What upset me most was the claim that Dr Shiva “invented email,” and Shiva’s agreement that he did.

          Apart from that, Ayyadurai’s analysis is really powerful. So much so that various parties have been recruited to “debunk” it. One of the most egregious is from a bloke called Matt Parker who runs Stand-up Maths. Stand-up indeed. He does his debunking thing at

          All of the misrepresentation and the refusal to examine the data is on its own a pretty powerful argument that there is something seriously wrong.

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        Rock

        To US audiences, who are accustomed to rude behavior by “news” hosts towards guests, Mike was very accommodating. And his lack of polish shows authenticity.

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      Harry Passfield

      PS: Seems Dominion are going to sue OAN for airing the Lindell (privately paid-for) vid.
      Wonderful! The more they complain the more chance of their malfeasance comes to light.

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      Harry Passfield

      OCCUPY GOOGLE!

      OK, I missed the comma – but I did…

      “take control of (a place, especially a country) by military conquest or settlement.”

      or:

      enter and stay in (a building **the WH?**) without authority and often forcibly, especially as a form of protest.

      Hmmm.

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    TimiBoy

    RIP Democracy.

    There’s only one way this changes now, and things aren’t bad enough yet to bring that on.

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    Nadia bin Du Natan

    I would force all billionaires to get out of any limited liability arrangement, to get out of debt, and to forego any interest earnings. Be more humble in their reach and concentrate on doing well with a more limited empire, whose earnings come exclusively from operations. Because once you get all these billionaires who owe their allegiance to creators of debt, this is where we have seen them goose-stepping like people in a North Korean parade. Libertarianism may only be suitable for the torso of the society. Not the head and the feet. I think thats an okay analogy since traditionally we have under-rated the torso as the driving force in many athletic endeavours.

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    Lance

    This link shows “vote dumps” occurring in various US States that presumably changed the outcome of the election. Last updated 25 Jan 2021.

    http://wiseenergy.org/Energy/Election/Vote_Dumps_Report.pdf

    It would be interesting to bump this data against the data Mr Lindell shows.

    The “vote dumps” have timestamps on them. Might be a point of correlation.

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      Presumably? We saw it happening! The data converges perfectly with the election steal on the night, which dovetails in wonderful fidelity to the testimony, and these factors dance in exquisite harmony with the security footage. So for those who don’t know there is a coup in operation by now, they are never going get there in a decade of Sundays, and the real question is how such people are able to make it to work on time without getting knocked down by the traffic.

      Consider that the coup hypothesis is uncontested by evidence on the other side. No-one who claims that Biden got more votes than Trump has ever produced a scintilla of evidence in support of that notion. Thats the problem with substituting a mantra for evidence. You wind up with no evidence for your own hypothesis. The only possible alternative hypothesis is one where the conspiracy is even more massive in scope and the conspiracy is all about faking the fakery. I’m happy to entertain the faking the fakery hypothesis but I’d at least like to see some evidence for it. But it would be a bit akin to the hypothesis that Allah arranged for the geological record to show a planet greater than 6000 years old, just to test our faith. At least there is some logic there. Allah can do what he wants. But to fake all that fakery? Thats a pretty tough gig right there.

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    NY Times doesn’t bother telling us what election fraud would look like. What evidence would convince them?

    The answer is none. But who cares?

    NY times peddled the Russia Hoax.

    Did you know a Moscow bank pinged Trump?

    Smoking gun! NOT

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    Clyde

    As to the geolocation of the IP addresses, doing a ping trace or reverse WHOIS likely isn’t going to cut it… ISPs move IP addresses around to fulfill connection provisioning needs all the time, and even if they don’t, the above only shows the last hop, which can be quite a ways away from the actual user. For instance, my IP address shows as being in Pleasanton, CA… ~44 miles away. Sometimes it shows as Redwood City, sometimes Fremont, sometimes Oakland, sometimes San Jose. Depends upon which IP address my internet-facing hardware grabs when I release the IP address and refresh it.

    There used to be a website that traced the actual geolocation of each IP address via ping-timing triangulation, and kept a historical record, accurate to ~300 feet. I’m not sure if it’s still operational. Used that, along with social engineering, to good advantage when taking down snotty libtards who thought they were anonymous so they were abusive online. LOL

    Another alternative is to do manual ping-timing triangulation geolocation, but that requires knowing the latency of each hop, so it’s a bit complicated. It’s typically nation-state level knowledge unless you know how to collect the necessary data yourself.

    That’s what I used against an organized-crime criminal organization (which was based in Brighton, MA, but everyone thought they were operating out of Russia) when I outed and doxed all their people across 3 countries, shut down their selling counterfeit goods, counterfeit pharmacy drugs, illegal mortgage refinancing scams and illegal gambling sites. Ran the head guy out of 3 countries, got a $37.5 million court judgement against him in the US, got his servers in China confiscated, and got him arrested for renting little girls from orphanages in Ukraine and starring in CP films with them. He’ll be out in 2048, IIRC. Then he’s got three other countries (Canada, US, Britain) looking for him to pay for his crimes.

    It was a lot of work, and I’d not want to attempt it again… the multiple 24 hour days I put in taking that scumbag down, all the while he was calling me via SIP phone and threatening me, so I taunted him as I took down each of his thousands of websites and forwarded all the information I’d gleaned to the FBI… that takes a toll.

    But yeah, it can be done.

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    (I think) this is about a Time article, not The London Times, but it is another piece of the jigsaw:
    By Viva Frei
    https://youtu.be/Lx6OfAdl-UU

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    Mike-SMO

    Of course, NOW some judges will question votes or machines once the Corruptocrats have a lock on control of the government. It makes a great cover story for a judicial coup since no one cares about maybe one more Democratic seat in the CCP-Congress. Besides, they also control the “next time” vote by mail and by machine. The GOPe made no effort to defend the Republic and will never do anything as long as “they get their cut”. They have no skin in the game.

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    Antoine D’Arche

    Gen. Robert Spalding USAF (ret) stated in “Stealth War” (2017) that he thought they had 3 years to prevent the CCP takeover of the USA from within. That clock has run out…..

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      Totally suspect. Spalding must be compromised. The CCP has been brought in as junior partners. Doesn’t mean they have to stay that way, they can flip their sponsors. But all my homies, socially, just wants to blame the CCP. To do so without identifying and defeating the third rail, is to set us up for world war three. Plus its everyone being gutless, just for starters. If you refuse to identify who you are fighting against, and you keep your eyes closed, thats a fight you are going to lose.

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    Jo – you said [Unless someone went out there faking up thousands of pages of details, this would be warfare.]
    Chapter VII by Dr Yossef Bodansky in the 2011 book “Energy Security 2.0” recounts how from the 1990’s the CCP/PLA decided on various “non-shooting War Tactics” against the West. See my 25Jan21 blog.
    “2011 explanation CCP hostility to Australia”
    http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=6605
    Here is a quote from near bottom of page 117.[The various solutions conceptualized by the PLA General Staff were tested in a series of major military exercises throughout the 1990s.
    The most important conclusion of this era of strategic-military transformation was the PRC commitment to vastly expand the scope of state-run asymmetric warfare to include criminality, terrorism, subversion, and cyber warfare in order to compensate for the concurrent PRC weakness in conventional hi-tech warfare as well as to buy the PRC the necessary time to catch-up and even surpass the US-led West.]

    [Was caught in the spam filter] ED

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    Anton

    The American people are locked out of the cockpit and hijackers have taken over the flight. The new direction of travel cannot be altered merely by making this fact public. People who are prepared to act unconstitutionally to take power will be prepared to do it again to keep power. Why do I think of Todd Beamer?

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    Rock

    People need to realize that the voting systems that were compromised in the US are in use in many countries throughout the world. In how many other country’s elections have voters’ voices been silenced by machines and software that make it easy to cheat and hard to detect?

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    I called the Trump Russian collusion claim a hoax, in writing, in Fall 2016.

    I voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

    I believe there is evidence that 2020 election fraud was much more than usual.

    But … I watched the first 30 minutes of the Mike Lindell video, and do not find it to be persuasive.

    That’s just my opinion.

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      Nadia bin Du Natan

      “I believe there is evidence that 2020 election fraud was much more than usual.”

      No you are just talking idiocy. More than usual? If you were watching the election scores in real time you saw the coup happen right before your eyes. It was totally proven on the night, just by the racking up of numbers on the score-board, prior to any sort of investigation at all.

      If you can’t get that right, you will never be able to get anything right at all ever again, except by sheer serendipity.

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