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		<title>Comment on Domino makes carbon-free cane-sugar. It&#8217;s certified. by Rereke Whakaaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rereke Whakaaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 20:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and when I say, &quot;alternate life-style&quot;, I don&#039;t mean &quot;alternative life-style&quot;.  I mean &quot;alternate&quot;, as in a totally different reality to the rest of us, who may choose to make choices between alternative options in the reality we already have.  

It is the Alternate Reality people who are driving the climate scare.  You can spot them, because they have no sense of proportion, no sense of humour, and a belief that alchemy is superior to chemistry, because it has a longer history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and when I say, &#8220;alternate life-style&#8221;, I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;alternative life-style&#8221;.  I mean &#8220;alternate&#8221;, as in a totally different reality to the rest of us, who may choose to make choices between alternative options in the reality we already have.  </p>
<p>It is the Alternate Reality people who are driving the climate scare.  You can spot them, because they have no sense of proportion, no sense of humour, and a belief that alchemy is superior to chemistry, because it has a longer history.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tony Jones lets Bill McKibben get away with barking nonsense  &#8220;Really one degree is utter catastrophe&#8221; by R. Gates</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 20:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Since the alarmists claim there is missing energy, and that this energy has gone into the oceans, two things can happen, A-) Nothing, the energy is sequestered in the deep ocean, which means there is nothing to worry about. B-) This energy will come back up at some stage and continue the warming of the atmosphere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is also C) whereby the additional heat is advected to the most sensitive part of the planet via ocean currents, greatly affecting the sea ice, which is exactly what is happening, but make no mistake, we&#039;ve got lots of time for B as well.   See:

http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2012/06/ocean-heat-flux.html</description>
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Since the alarmists claim there is missing energy, and that this energy has gone into the oceans, two things can happen, A-) Nothing, the energy is sequestered in the deep ocean, which means there is nothing to worry about. B-) This energy will come back up at some stage and continue the warming of the atmosphere.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is also C) whereby the additional heat is advected to the most sensitive part of the planet via ocean currents, greatly affecting the sea ice, which is exactly what is happening, but make no mistake, we&#8217;ve got lots of time for B as well.   See:</p>
<p><a href="http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2012/06/ocean-heat-flux.html" rel="nofollow">http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2012/06/ocean-heat-flux.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Domino makes carbon-free cane-sugar. It&#8217;s certified. by Rereke Whakaaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rereke Whakaaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 20:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the problem with this.  It is perfectly reasonable from a marketing point of view.

All they have done, is to look at the constituent atoms in a sugar molecule, and reapportion the proportional costs of the carbon across the other elements in the molecule.  Thus making the carbon &quot;free&quot;.

A portion of the population thinks that a sign and road markings saying, &quot;Parking Free Zone&quot;, means you can park for nothing, so carbon free sugar is not an alien concept to those folks.

Organic sugar is different though.  Being organic means that it has got added healthy bits, to make it good for you.

Having organic sugar, where the carbon is free, will be the best thing since sliced (organic, stone-ground flour) bread, to the alternate life-style greenies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the problem with this.  It is perfectly reasonable from a marketing point of view.</p>
<p>All they have done, is to look at the constituent atoms in a sugar molecule, and reapportion the proportional costs of the carbon across the other elements in the molecule.  Thus making the carbon &#8220;free&#8221;.</p>
<p>A portion of the population thinks that a sign and road markings saying, &#8220;Parking Free Zone&#8221;, means you can park for nothing, so carbon free sugar is not an alien concept to those folks.</p>
<p>Organic sugar is different though.  Being organic means that it has got added healthy bits, to make it good for you.</p>
<p>Having organic sugar, where the carbon is free, will be the best thing since sliced (organic, stone-ground flour) bread, to the alternate life-style greenies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Domino makes carbon-free cane-sugar. It&#8217;s certified. by R. Gates</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 20:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my! Some marketing person really messed up. Jumping on the &quot;go green&quot; and reduce carbon bandwagon without thinking the whole thing through. I mean really... Know your product people.  In the meantime, how about a go-green cookie made with Carbon Free Domino sugar:

http://www.dominosugar.com/carbonfree/carbon-neutral-cookies.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my! Some marketing person really messed up. Jumping on the &#8220;go green&#8221; and reduce carbon bandwagon without thinking the whole thing through. I mean really&#8230; Know your product people.  In the meantime, how about a go-green cookie made with Carbon Free Domino sugar:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dominosugar.com/carbonfree/carbon-neutral-cookies.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dominosugar.com/carbonfree/carbon-neutral-cookies.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Domino makes carbon-free cane-sugar. It&#8217;s certified. by Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 20:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucrose&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

Slight science 

Glucose is a bit smaller and so is Frutose

However the sentiment behind this is that CO2 makes food and indeed humans are CARBON Units</description>
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<p>Slight science </p>
<p>Glucose is a bit smaller and so is Frutose</p>
<p>However the sentiment behind this is that CO2 makes food and indeed humans are CARBON Units</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Domino makes carbon-free cane-sugar. It&#8217;s certified. by Sparks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 20:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this was covered last year by WUWT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this was covered last year by WUWT.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better talk to hubby on this 

Sugar is SUCROSE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better talk to hubby on this </p>
<p>Sugar is SUCROSE</p>
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		<dc:creator>Dagfinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 19:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your diamonds are pure carbon. I can help you get rid of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your diamonds are pure carbon. I can help you get rid of them.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Keppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 19:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we could only get that poisonous chlorine out of our salt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we could only get that poisonous chlorine out of our salt!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Baa Humbug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 18:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gates, see my reply at #37</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gates, see my reply at #37</p>
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