Energy Pain: The richest countries in the world may not eat hot meals, people start burning their bills in the street

Hoping to change the weather has consequences, and so does printing lots of money:

In the UK they’re being told they might have to avoid using appliances at home from 2pm-8pm this winter and cook dinner after that (your circadian rhythm be damned). Who wants to tuck the kids in without a hot meal? Energy prices are so high pubs are already closing early. Nearly one in four households in the UK say they are planning to not turn heating on this winter because they can’t afford it (and that was before the latest shocking price rise).  In a taste of things to come, people are starting to be admitted to hospital because their energy was cut off. The NHS is asking hospital staff to turn of equipment and lights and warns that care may even have to be rationed because of soaring energy bills. People with electric cars may be asked not to charge them til after everyone has cooked dinner. It’s complicated saving the world.

In Europe, the gas storage is nearly 80% full which would cover Europe’s energy use in a normal winter for about three months. But half of Europe’s aluminum and zinc smelters have already shut down. In Germany fights are breaking out on the coal shop floor to get coal. In Scotland and Italy people  are burning their energy bills in the streets in protest.

Life in Blackout Britain:

[DailyMail] Experts warn energy rationing this winter could see people told not to cook until after 8pm, pubs close at 9pm, ‘three-day-a-week’ school, care homes cancel outings for residents and swimming pools left unheated

The scale of energy rationing that may be required at home, in the NHS, schools, care homes, shops, pubs and on the streets of Britain because of surging energy prices and the threat of blackouts is laid bare today. Experts have told MailOnline there is ‘no escape’ for the 66million people in the UK who will be encouraged to cut their use of gas and electricity this winter and even turn off the lights when the wind drops.

Kathryn Porter, from consultancy Watt-Logic, fears that the crisis will cost lives…

Do British Lives Matter?

[MSN] Patients are being admitted to hospital after having their gas and electric shut off, an NHS chief has told the energy regulator.

The health boss has asked the national regulator for gas and electricity markets to reconsider the policy of disconnecting supplies as it will “save lives” this winter.

Care could have to be ‘cut back’ this winter unless system gets extra £4BILLION to cover inflation, health chiefs warn

[DailyMail] NHS treatment may have to be rationed this winter because of ever-increasing energy bills, health bosses fear in the face of a mammoth backlog and crises in the A&E and ambulance sectors.

He [Rory Deighton, of the NHS Confederation] said the solution ‘will either have to be made up by fewer staff being employed, longer waiting times for care, or other areas of patient care being cut back’.

Analysts predict the health service will need at least another £4billion to account for spiralling costs.

That can’t be good: Germany’s industry is experiencing a “structural rupture”:

Europe’s Industrial Might Is Collapsing While Its Elites Deny Reality

Michael Bastasch, The DailySignal

“It’s not good news,” German Economic Minister Robert Habeck said Wednesday of his country’s plight. “[I]t can mean that the industries in question aren’t just being restructured but are experiencing a rupture—a structural rupture, one that is happening under enormous pressure.”

This rupturing of industry is being felt across Europe. Europe’s already lost at least half its ammonia production and one-third of its nitrogen fertilizer production due to sky-high gas prices, according to industry analysts. Ammonia and nitrogen fertilizer are both derived from natural gas using the Haber-Bosch process.

Likewise, Reuters estimates roughly half of Europe’s aluminum and zinc smelters have shut down. Russia’s decision to once again halt gas supplies, this time for three days, will no doubt convince more factories big and small to shut their doors.

Benny Peiser, director of Net Zero Watch, is more pessimistic. He sees long-term de-industrialization as a serious risk …

German factories shut down as energy costs spiral out of control

James Warrington, The Telegraph

Eurozone inflation hits new record, with Putin continuing to slash gas supplies to the Continent.

Prices are rising at the fastest rate since records began in 1997, piling pressure on the European Central Bank to continue raising interest rates at its meeting next week.

Now that’s  a hockey-stick that matters:

Eurozone inflation

This will rupture anything…   | The Telegraph

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194 comments to Energy Pain: The richest countries in the world may not eat hot meals, people start burning their bills in the street

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    MrGrimNasty

    Why are Scots burning bills, their electricity should be almost free. Renewable electricity generation is equivalent to approximately 97% of Scotland’s gross electricity consumption.

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      Saighdear

      Eh ? “They cannot pay and refuse to be impoverished for an Agenda they had no say in following ” …. and so say many of us – EXCEPT there was no mention of this , that I noticed, on our ‘great’ bbc or itv. Typical! and then again, the stain of being a bad debtor takes a loooooonng time to wash clear, affecting many things you might likely want to do. This is the problem. Quite different from being in Business and not paying a Bill ( disputing it ).
      THis past week, there was a Hoohah on the Telly news aboutthe new very big windNill farm ( for retired Herons) being switched on off the Coast of Grimsby. Not a Spark of difference to the Viewable meters on https://gridwatch.co.uk . and I have been watching this site regularly. Pointless having Herr Ron calling for more colleagues to come fishing at the empty Pond of Nofish No wind no power. …..

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      cadger

      Those Scots shown in the video burning their bills are actually a bunch of socialist protesting “corporate greed”.

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    Doctor T

    It’s difficult not to see this, coupled with ongoing Covid “vaccination”, as the implementation of the WEF/ Gatesian masterplan of world depopulation.
    I am a little surprised that Europe hasn’t erupted into mass revolution, though 2 1/2 years of Covid policy seems to have sucked the life force out of the bulk of the population.

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      Much of this is currently pure speculation. Mass protests may arise if it all actually comes true.

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        Honk R Smith

        Two weeks to flatten the curve.

        Oh, and BTW, NIH has quietly added Ivermectin to its’ list of COVID therapies.
        https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/
        Guess it wasn’t proven ineffective after all.
        Odd what becomes ‘true’.

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          cadger

          You need to dig a little deeper into that link.

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            David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

            Why?

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              William Astley

              This is a quote from the FDA link.
              “Recommendation
              The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials ().”

              Translation… Doctors cannot use Ivermectin to treat covid. This is how the swamp stops the use of a very effective anti-covid therapy. Fake studies were generated to make it appear that there was scientific controversy concerning whether it works or not.

              The political answer is emergency use was granted for the covid vaccines because there was no effective alternative. Ivermectin is so effective; it would have resulted in the removal of the special need for the RNA vaccines to grant immunity from lawsuits.

              This is the swamp pay for lying studies.

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              John Hultquist

              Not sure where to stick this but Ivermectin has been used on folks (not just animals) for years to get rid of head lice.
              Ivermectin 0.5% topical lotion kills most head lice infestations with one 10-minute application on dry hair and scalp. In studies, 71 to 76% of patients were completely lice-free 2 weeks after one Sklice treatment.

              Sklice is a proper name in this context.

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            Honk R Smith

            Why is it being evaluated?
            Doctors lost their jobs for even talking about it.
            We were told it was a veterinary drug with no indication of use for COVID.

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            Leo G

            If you dig you way to the end of the link you find that

            Several clinical trials evaluating the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 are currently underway or in development.

            One of those trials is both completed (19 months ago) and has available results indicating a statistically significant benefit with the use of Ivermectin for severe COVID-19 management, in terms of reduced mortality.

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            Mike Jonas

            cadger – I did dig deeper into that link. It’s a page in the NIH nih.gov website, and I was able to navigate to it through nih.gov. Unless someone has hacked the nih.gov website, it is absolutely genuine.

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          Jeremy Poynton

          Not to mention that in 2005 Fauci put in print that Choloroqunine was a highly effective prophylactic against Sars. Link is on my other machine at home, so cannot post it. But it’s down in print

          We call Fauci “Dr. Faustus”

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          Ted1.

          The NIH is giving nothing away there. Still trying to shut it down.

          At least it’s a sign that they are aware there is a problem. But the problem is so big that they will never admit it. The stakes are too high. Dr Blaylock’s assertion of the mass murder of 80% of the 800,000 US citizens that had died at his time of writing is supported by evidence.

          They will continue to disallow proper trials whilever they can get away with it.

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            Ted1.

            Have another look at the stats for India’s start/stop/start use of ivermectin. What are their numbers, and who drove the stop?

            Could the numbers there which supported the use of Ivermectin have been arrived at simply by not counting any more?

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      David Maddison

      And here is the connection between C-19 and Energy Starvation.

      Daniel Wild wrote in The Spectator Australia 2 September 2020:

      The World Health Organisation’s Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said last Friday that “we will not – we cannot – go back to the way things were… the pandemic has given new impetus to the need to accelerate efforts to respond to climate change.”

      Tedros also said, “the pandemic has given us a glimpse of our world as it could be: cleaner skies and rivers.”

      It is noteworthy that in an address ostensibly about COVID-19 Tedros spent more time talking about the use of coal in the UK than about the loss of democracy, freedom, jobs, and livelihoods across the world due to lockdown restrictions. Perhaps as the head of an unelected and unaccountable global bureaucracy, such matters don’t concern Tedros.

      These remarks are significant because they are the first time someone from the global political class has said out what many have been thinking: the COVID-19 pandemic appears now to be more about politics and agendas than public health.

      And for those wondering what the connection is between COVID-19 and climate change – both come from China, but apparently require extraordinary government powers to deal with, and neither are over until the elites say so.

      The remarks also give the public the first hint that the political class want to turn the tools of the pandemic, that is, border closures, lockdowns, state of emergency powers, to climate change.

      How far Australia’s political elite will follow the guidance of the WHO we cannot yet say.

      Daniel Wild is Director of Research at the Institute of Public Affairs. Join as a member at http://www.ipa.org.au.

      SEE ARTICLE FOR FULL TEXT

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        John Connor II

        The WEF REAL agenda is to break everything and not build back at all.
        Seriously.

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          ExWarmist

          Debt for equity swap concentrating all real ownership to the current billionaire class.

          You’ll own nothing and be happy (living in a rented dorm, eating bugs, and charging your rented iPhone on your 2-hour a day electricity ration so that you can watch the corporate streaming service entertainment, all paid for with your CBDC monthly stipend…)

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    Mooka

    Here’s a tip,Don’t vote for anyone who says they are going to fight climate change. They are going to make your life short and brutal.

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      Saighdear

      but you’ll be outvoted by the Idi-Yachts. You know – those who Float around and Blow in the direction of the wind.

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      Jim Veenbaas

      Even better, don’t vote for anyone who uses fear to persuade you – fear of covid, fear of climate change, fear of political extremism. Demand that they offer a promising vision of the future.

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        Saighdear

        Aye, huh! you couldn’t vote for anybody then ( ie those so meek and get put forward as a candidate ). I can accept the word Covid19 in a conversation, but it adds INSULT to INJURY of the BRAIN, when they add in the term ‘ pandemic’ …… so what really is a pandemic then? Obviously NOT what I had been taught in history, all these months ago in school.

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    erasmus

    Australia has an abundance of fuels but due to ideological madness is heading down that same highway to horror.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Great summary.

    It must be true that the Tories in the UK are relaxed and comfortable with this situation, given their lack of any meaningful response. After all the poor are poor because they are lazy, and therefore this inflation of energy costs will teach them a lesson

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      PeterW

      If the Tories are “relaxed”, it’s because they Peter Fitzroys of this world are even more determinedto do what makes people suffer in the cold….. while denying reality.

      If anyone decides that Britain can’t afford not to tap its own enormous gas reserves, it’s not going to be you Labour-Green cronies.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        Come on, The tories are in power, they got Brexit done, I, and my fellow travellers have nothing to do with it.

        Again, what has been the response? Where is Boris?

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          b.nice

          Boris a controlled rabid greenie, a true believer in the AGW cults (guided by his ****)

          Hopefully his replacement will start taking the sort of non-leftist, therefore rational, approach to UK electricity and energy.

          Remove all “unreliables” government funding.

          Remove the utter stupidity of “net zero” anti-human anti-science.

          Start using their own coal and gas to get some sort of reliability, and cost stability back into the electricity supply.

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            John Hultquist

            Liz Truss, the frontrunner to replace Boris Johnson as Britain’s prime minister may start work next Wednesday.

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          Tel

          Are you trying to claim the energy crisis has something to do with Brexit?!?

          That’s pretty nutty theory.

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            b.nice

            And like most theories for marxist leftists… Totally devoid of any rational thought process.

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            Saighdear

            Come again? …. pleeease ! Brexit related tothe Energy crisis …. come onnnnnne! If anything it was the nutty germans ( Your Op Ians) who promote that stupid game.

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      b.nice

      Yes, all but a couple of Tories are very much marxist socialist elitists…

      .. hence have the total arrogance and lack of care for other humans, that is so much a part of being a marxist social leftist.

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      yarpos

      Yes they should get out there and virtue signal madly and and mouth meaningless platitudes, like their opponents.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        Liz Truss is mouthing meaningless platitudes when she says no energy rationing, doubling of fuel discount, but no direct help to those at the bottom? or Rishi Sunak who is promising 10 billion to help the poor, but not putting a price cap in place?

        Is that what you mean?

        Boris in the last 6 months, when these problems first became apparent has done SFA, leaving to his replacements who like our very own scotty form marketing, will say anything, conceal everything, to hold on to power

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          b.nice

          Pushing any real reforms, like drilling for gas and mining coal and removing all “renewable goals and subsidies, would be basically impossible to get through the brain-washed marxist greenie elitist parliament.

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      el+gordo

      ‘ … this inflation of energy costs will teach them a lesson.’

      I predict the burning of bills will become fashionable.

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        b.nice

        Unfortunately, while the bills keep getting larger and larger… the paper they are printed on provides very little in the way of usable energy. 🙁

        And what little energy they do release, will not increase with the size of the bill.

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          Mike Jonas

          “what little energy they do release, will not increase with the size of the bill”. On the contrary, each burned bill will be followed by an ‘overdue’ demand. The paper energy supply is completely renewable.

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        Bozotheclown

        Clinton?

        If the fire is hot enough it might be sanitizing.

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    How are they going to stop people cooking meals until after 8? Turn off their smart meter which would also shut off their heating.?

    The reports are rather confusing, are they saying people will not get power because of rationing or because they will find it too expensive to use?

    A few days of no wind added to the usual lack of winter sun might concentrate people’s minds that renwables have flaws, but at present there is likely to still be sufficient fossil fuel back up to compensate.

    However when renwables increase by another 10% and fossil fuel back up reduced by 10% then there will be big long term problems.

    So perhaps that couple of days of shortages this year, when the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine during a short loved cold spell, might be a better alternative to the longer Term scenario of much longer shortages a couple of years down the road

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      Ronin

      “How are they going to stop people cooking meals until after 8? Turn off their smart meter which would also shut off their heating.?”

      If you have a ‘smart’ meter, you are screwed.

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    Simon

    This is what happens when there is over-reliance on a single source of energy.

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      b.nice

      Wrong, this is what happens when you destroy your energy infrastructure on the whim of the far-left anti-science of AGW.

      This is what happens when you destroy your self-reliable energy infrastructure by wasting huge amounts of money on unreliable supply sources.

      NONE of this would be happening if Germany, UK were still self reliant on mostly fossil fuels and nuclear.

      Its not that they don’t have the energy there in the ground... its that far-left politics has forbade its use.

      This was warned against by MANY climate realists, and centrist politicians,like Trump, who did not get sucked in by the anti-CO2 climate farce.

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      Ronin

      That is rubbish, explain why it has worked so well for the past 60 years that no one noticed it, the drama only set in when ‘diversity’ was introduced.

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        Simon

        Are you aware of the energy crises of the 1970’s? Britain had power cuts and rationing in 1973.

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          PeterPetrum

          That was to do with a shortage of oil affecting transport and industry. Nothing to do with electricity generation by coal and gas.

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          Ronin

          That was marxist unions flexing a bit of muscle, wake up.

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          Ted1.

          And Australia had strikes.

          Until Joh Bjelke Petersen sent Simon Crean home with a blooded nose.

          When Joh called the strike out, lo and behold the workers didn’t want a strike.

          Only their ACTU leaders did.

          Joh is now a long time gone, but that was the last power strike.

          God bless Joh!

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      David Maddison

      Traditional energy production involves multiple sources such as coal, gas, nuclear or hydro. They all all effective and none others are needed. Added extra sources such as windmills, solar or hamster treadmills just complicates things.

      The introduction of unreliables have complicated energy production enormously and massively increased costs due to their wildly varying random output meaning they need a massive extra layer of management and backup.

      It is a basic rule of unreliables that the more you have, the higher the consumer electricity cost. EEVERY SINGLE TIME. Because it is a complete lie that unreliables are cheaper than reliable.

      Proper energy production is constant, not random and is provided by coal, gas, nuclear and real hydro (not SH2), all sources which your comrades are systematically destroying.

      There was never a problem with either the cost, reliability or availability of electrical or other energy until your Marxist comrades started messing with it.

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      MrGrimNasty

      Simon, what we are actually seeing is the fast forwarding of electricity bills to reflect the true cost of renewables. The headline cost is not the true cost they impose. I predicted 3 years ago bills would have to rise 3 to 6 fold and many people would end up spending a third or a half of their after tax income on energy alone.

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        Dennis

        Maybe it would not surprise many people here that politicians when told that the real cost of wind and solar installations extends to transmission line to main grid, “firming” back up equipment plus removal costs, dumping and replacement costs on average every twenty years plus incentive subsidies to installation business owners that here in Australia exceed $7 billion every year.

        And the the fifty year coal fired power station quoted (accounting based) working life is well below the achievable when well maintained working life of eighty years or more subject to consideration of the benefits from replacement with new technology.

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      Graeme No.3

      Simon:
      Like relying mainly on wind?

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        b.nice

        Relying on unreliables… that makes sense.. Not !

        Yet its where political whim is driving us… how utterly stupid is that !

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          Dennis

          Wind power was quickly replaced with steam engine power when commercial sailing ship owners realised the advantages and benefits.

          It must have been frustrating for sailing ship captains and crews on schedules becalmed awaiting renewable energy.

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            Dennis

            I wonder why the sailing ship owners did not buy “firming” back up steam tug boats to sail with their sailing ships?

            /sarc.

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      Old Cocky

      I think the word you were looking for is “supplier”

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      yarpos

      Didnt do much research did you Simon? The UK has a very diverse rang of energy sources and a range of interconnectors, much more diverse than us for example. Sadly their alternate sources are riddled with unreliable and intermittent “renewables” which over promise and under deliver. I guess they are teaching the world about what baseload power generation is really about.

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      Harves

      Oh dear. Let me make it simple for you Simple Simon. Coal plus oil plus nuclear = stable, consistent and inexpensive energy. You know like throughout most of the last 3 or 4 decades.
      Try to make solar and wind your preferred energy source = what you have now.

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        Jeremy Poynton

        Coal did you say? We have oodles under the ground and near the ground in the UK, and gas galore.

        https://euracoal.eu/info/country-profiles/united-kingdom/

        “Hard coal

        The UK has identified hard coal resources of 3,910 million tonnes, although total resources could be as large as 187 billion tonnes. There are 33 million tonnes of economically recoverable reserves available at operational and permitted mines, plus a further 344 million tonnes at mines in planning. There are also about 1 000 million tonnes of lignite resources, mainly in Northern Ireland, although no lignite is mined. This significant coal resource base is, however, rendered largely irrelevant by policies designed to drive coal out of the energy mix and a hostile planning environment for surface mines.”

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      Graeme#4

      Actually the cost of living data shows that, energy-wise, Australia was coasting along nicely, up until 2006 when renewables started to have an impact. Our indexed electricity prices had gradually fallen to around 1976, then levelled out.
      After 2006, our indexed electricity prices then increased rapidly, going from tracking the general CPI to ending up over twice the general CPI in 2018.
      Who knows where they will end up now.

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        Jeremy Poynton

        Same in the UK, a well regulated market providing energy at affordable prices for homes and business. Then an idiot named Ed Miliband came up with the “Climate Change (and Destruction of the Economy) Act” of 2008 and the rest is history.

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      Liberator

      So relying on multiple sources of energy has improved the situation? Gosh they now have coal, gas, biomass, nuclear, wind, hydro and solar We’re seeing how much more stable, reliable and cheap (Free) electricity has become over there.

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        Simon

        Quite right. Imagine how expensive power would be if it was solely based on coal, gas, and oil.

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          b.nice

          “how expensive power would be if it was solely based on coal, gas, and oil.”

          One heck of a lot cheaper than current prices.. that is for sure.

          Especially if they were using their own coal and gas, of which they have plenty.

          Go back to before the renewables debacle started… you will see those nice cheap prices for reliable electricity supply.

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            Graeme#4

            Correct. Australia’s indexed electricity costs dropped down from 1955 to 1976, when levelled off until 2006, when renewables were introduced. The indexed cost then climbed back up, and at 2018 was above the original 1955 price.

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      TedM

      “This is what happens when there is over-reliance on a single source of energy.”

      Duhh!!!!!!

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    Graham Richards

    If those of you in the UK & EU are thinking of emigrating to Australia or New Zealand for a better life with stability & prosperity, please don’t!!
    We have a new lot of Socialist Labor looneys “running “ Australia into exactly the same situation in which you’re finding yourselves. This is a warning! Remember you were warned by Orange Man Bad not to hand your energy over to Mad Vlad Putin. What did you looneys do?? 😂😂😂.
    Australia will be in a similar situation soon so don’t bother. Our coal fired power generation will also be history very soon. The climate change virus is rampant & like the other vaccine, the green vaccine of solar/wind, just as useless!

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      b.nice

      “Our coal fired power generation will also be history very soon.”

      One can only hope that what is happening in UK, Germany, EU, is a massive WAKE UP call to start building new hi-tech coal plants and to start drilling for more gas , and for oil.

      With its rich resources, Australia should never be in a situation of fragile electricity supply…

      It only takes the political will to tell the climate yappers where they and step off. !

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      Philby

      What is really stupid is the majority of voters vote for these policies from councils to parliament’s.How stupid can you get

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        MrGrimNasty

        Yes, because they are being lied to about the reason for the price rises and natural weather events. Ukraine has been a godsend for the renewable energy proponents, happened just as the chickens were about to come home to roost and the whole scam was going to become self evident.

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      yarpos

      I’d rather be sitting almost anywhere in Australia in the depths of winter without power than in Northern England or Scotalnd. They may find summer a bit challenging though.

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        b.nice

        Went negative for 12 days straight in Alice Springs this July.

        Outback, away from the ocean can get pretty darn cold at times.

        The hills of the Great Diving Range get pretty cold in winter too.

        Not somewhere I would choose to be without an adequate supply of electricity, gas or fire wood.

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          yarpos

          seriously comparing that to -10C or worse all day? I will stick with comparison.

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            Kalm Keith

            🙂
            Good point, but of your blood is solid at minus 1°C the extra bit down to minus 10 is of no concern to the UNIPCCC or WHO.

            Austraya can satisfy all the requirements of the modern renewables society.

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          PeterPetrum

          Try living at 3,500ft at the top of the Blue Mountains, Yarpos. Max today was 6.3°C and min 1.9°C. Not too sure about enjoying that without heating.

          PS – writing this from Port Douglas – FNQ – 24°C today, just finished a 500m swim in the lovely swimming pool in our apartment complex. Just had to get away.

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        Annie

        We lived in a bluestone vicarage in Melbourne for a few years. Until gas central heating was put in, it was unbelievably cold in winter. (It was colder inside than out). It also became very hot in summer after a few really hot days and then took days to cool off.
        We also had the experience of living in a very basic brick veneer place with little heating, also in Melbourne. Freezing in winter and boiling hot in summer…horrible.
        Having said that, we’ve been far too cold in England, with ‘frost flowers’ all over the window of my bedroom as a child; perishing cold in Perth, WA, in September in a house with no heating; and freezing in Troodos in Cyprus in the winter, huddled around a little pine cone fire.
        In our modern civilisation we have the ability to be comfortable and healthy with wonderful electricity. Well, we had until all the unelected dictators who think they know best for the world’s population started to run rampant.

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          John Hultquist

          a little pine cone fire.

          I’ve several types of cones, mostly Ponderosa Pine and White Spruce. My stove has a catalytic converter. I believe the use of cones in such a stove should be limited to getting the fire started. Their density is low so likely only good for the starting sequence.
          I hope you never again have to rely on pinecones to heat a home.

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            Annie

            No, we don’t use them in the stove. I was talking about a small open fireplace where the accommodation was surrounded by Troodos Pine.

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            Ronin

            The resin in the pine cones will gunk up your chimney and raise the risk of chimney fires.

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    David Maddison

    I’m not sure if the Energy Starvation policies of the UK Government are a good thing or not.

    On one hand, it might be the only way to make the Sheeple wake up and understand the insanity of running an industrial civilisation on weather-dependent electricity.

    On the other hand, it’s also highly possible that the Sheeple are already so dumbed-down that it’s beyond all hope.

    Don’t forget, this is the beginning of the end that the leadership of the Left have been planning for decades. This didn’t happen overnight.

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    Ronin

    Are we going to see the manufacture of aircraft suspended due to the cost of aluminium.

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      another ian

      Availability might be a factor as well

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        Richard+Ilfeld

        wood and fabric gliders – circa 1905, brought to you by people who also probably want to bring back bicycle factories. I know an entrepreneur in the Carolinas who has made a fair amount of money buying up ‘flood fleets’ of vehicles very cheaply, ans using literally hundreds of little shops in the hills and guys with side gigs in their garage to rehab them, then selling them to consumers as exactly what they are: rehabbed cars that had been in a flood. He is setting up now to add full refurb services for folks who want to keep their IC cars; he’ll not only make it like a really good used car but replace a lot of the OEM parts with generic ones so you can continue to service them….I say cars but actually about 80% of the demand is Pickup trucks. The same part of the country has had moonshine stills for years; bootleg mini-refineries anyone?

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          b.nice

          “wood and fabric gliders”

          Nope.. all the wood has been used for heating and cooking !

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            Sambar

            Can’t tighten the fabric b.nice, all that good old fashioned “dope” the fabric tightening kind, not the cigarette smoking kind, has been used to tighten the politicians resolve.
            Just look at our federal minister for climate change “dope” use personified

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          another ian

          The moulds for making Mosquito fuselages have been recreated. The plans for the rest of the woodwork are available.

          One example

          https://www.peoplesmosquito.org.uk/

          Merlin engines not so much.

          Wood and fabric gliders were made up to around the 1970’s. Harry Schneider even built them in Australia

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schneider_ES-65

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            Graeme#4

            They are needed. The glue that held the laminated wooden spars and struts together has now failed, so to rehab a mosquito, you have to delaminate all struts etc., and re-glue with modern glues. A huge task.
            In the aviation museum where I volunteer, rivets are corroding and popping out, and almost impossible to replace with correct aircraft flush rivets.

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              another ian

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerolite_(adhesive)

              “When World War II broke out, the small company began to grow. Morris Motors used Aerolite and Aero Research’s strip heating process to assemble Airspeed Horsa gliders, as did de Havilland on its Mosquito, as well as on other aircraft and also naval launches and patrol boats. On the Mosquito, Aerolite soon replaced the original “Beetle Cement” (known as “Kaurit” in Germany) synthetic resin adhesive used, after this glue was found not to stand up to the hot and humid climate in the Far East.”

              Casein glue doesn’t like humidity either

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                Graeme#4

                Ian, I believe that somebody in NZ is restoring a Mosquito. At my nearby aviation museum, an aircraft rebuild can take five years. Not sure how many are currently being restored, as some of them are being restored elsewhere.

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      David Maddison

      Ronin, there is no point flying if the price of liquid fuels is unaffordable, so the cost of aluminium for aircraft is irrelevant. And the cost of composite materials will skyrocket or already has.

      I recently priced air tickets to Europe and other overseas destinayltions and was stunned by the high cost compared with what they used to be.

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    Rick

    A self inflicted catastrophe. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch really.
    They keep re-electing woke governments because they promise free stuff, and this is the result – hyper inflation, economic collapse, failure of essential services, and a constant diet of unbelievable nonsense from gov’ts and commentators.

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      yarpos

      “They” ?? how many countries in the West havent elected a woke government lately?

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        Gary S

        The U.S. didn’t, but they got one anyway.

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        Jeremy Poynton

        Well in the UK we elected a Conservative government hoping they’d throttle woke; instead, under their aegis, woke spread like a virus, escaped from the laboratory of academia, infected all of the public sector, and then the corporate world.

        Looking to Pfizer for a shot to … deal with Woke.

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    Bodge it an Scarpa

    When masses of people begin dying from these totally preventable disastrous government energy policies,and the populace demand those responsible be held to account, possibly by violent means, I fear much of the formerly democratic world will descend into anarky. Albo and Bonehead would be very brave as well as they are certifiably stupid to continue on with their ridiculous economy and quality of life destroying RE transition program.

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      Philip

      Nope. Not the way it works.

      48% will blame Brexit
      50% will blame Climate Change
      2% will see the truth

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        Bodge it an Scarpa

        I doubt the Europeans will blame Brexit, and Civil disobedience has been up and running in a few European states for a couple of months now. When are the Brits going to find out where they left their Gonads for the past couple of decades?

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    David Maddison

    All of Australia’s state and federal governments, including the opposition pretend-conservative Liberals (where applicable) all have strong Energy Starvation policies, just like the government of Once Great Britain.

    A key difference is that Australia can’t rely on an interconnector to a neighbouring country like Once Great Britain who can obtain nuclear power from France or hydro power from Scandanavia, assuming any is available.

    Also, Australia has relatively mild weather so when it gets cold, people are more likely to be just miserable rather than die as they would in the cold parts of Europe and North America.

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      PeterW

      David.
      Funnily enough, cold snaps kill more people in places like Aus than they do in northern europe.
      Possibly because the Euros – for all their whining about energy prices – have millennia of experience when it comes to building houses for cold weather.

      We don’t.

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      MrGrimNasty

      Currently every UK interconnector is exporting. France has been taking 3GW for days, and Norway 1GW, from the UK.
      When there was a brief Europe wide cold spell last winter France cut us off at the morning surge demand point.
      Let’s face it, national interests come first and the UK can’t rely on these enormously expensive interconnectors, more costs added to the bills, required because of unreliables, but will be useless when renewables fail!

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      Mike Jonas

      I had a one-to-one conversation with a senior federal shadow minister a few days ago. I told them that if they abandoned net-zero they would win the next election in a landslide. They said that the net-zero policy couldn’t be dropped because Australia would lose all their free-trade agreements.

      So the situation is that all the countries that have free-trade agreements with Australia are re-starting their coal-fired generators while at the same time paying lip service to their net-zero commitments and demanding adherence to net-zero commitments by everyone else. And Australia is stupid enough to think it has to achieve net-zero. All it takes is one child to say the emperor has no clothes, and the whole thing collapses. Where is that child? Australia needs them right now.

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        David Maddison

        They said that the net-zero policy couldn’t be dropped because Australia would lose all their free-trade agreements.

        Politicians keep saying that, and some might even believe it, but I bet that if we dropped NET ZERO nothing would happen.

        The same with the BS claim that Australia would pay higher interest rates to international lenders. I bet nothing would happen.

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        Honk R Smith

        Child … “Daddy (or non-binary parental unit), why are Free Trade agreements not free?”

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    David Maddison

    The Bigger Picture is that this represents the deliberately engineered destruction of Western industrial civilisation and also the Enlightenment Values that got us here and a return to serfdom of pre-Enlightenment times.

    In fact, Frederick Hayek wrote a relevant book, “The Road to Serfdom”, the one sentence summary of which is:

    keep your freedoms and individuality by taking a stand against socialism, identifying its risks to turn into totalitarianism, and why this was especially important after WWII.

    https://fourminutebooks.com/the-road-to-serfdom-summary/

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    TdeF

    Sounds like a massive market for Victoria’s briquettes which are very clean and the energy content of anthracite. But we are not allowed make or sell them because they will be burned to heat homes. And the element Carbon is banned. Like the Greenpeace ban on the element chlorine.

    You have to think Nitrogen is next, as in Nederlands and Sri Lanka. But hydrogen is glorified and Dr. Andrew Forrest is the high priest of hydrogen in Australia. In the Green bible, the elements are the problem and should never have been invented.

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    Dave of Gold Coast, Qld.

    Reasonably sure we no longer need weapons to destroy countries, our own governments are doing it for us. Just follow the Great Reset, Agenda 21 with “Covid’ deaths??? and climate change and the most powerful nations are falling apart. See Germany, USA, Britain, NZ etc, we are now in the running as well.

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    another ian

    The last turbine on the gas line from Russia is out for service and needs parts – but there is a problem – –

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=246829

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      William Astley

      Nord Stream I pipeline will be closed indefinitely.
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62766867

      “The firm said it had found an oil leak in a turbine on the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, meaning it would be closed indefinitely.”

      Translation: Russia has decided it will place maximum energy pressure on the EU/UK now to create a step change crisis that is so large the public will become frightened and no long support the economic war, with Russia. Russia needs/wants to end the crisis also. The EU have forced Russia’s move also.

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        Jeremy Poynton

        Done because the EU, in its infinite stupidity, made a price cap on Russian gas. They were warned, yet did it.

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    Zane

    Imagine what will happen in Australia once NSW goes Labor at the next state election. Almost a full house states-wise for the ALP then, a party completely dependent on greens preferences for their political dominance. Much more wind, especially billion dollar offshore installations which will have grinning CFMEU workers buying six negatively-geared investment properties each. More solar rebates. Farmers love them. And far higher domestic energy bills whilst Asia cheekily continues to import our LNG for pennies.

    But we must save the climate! Climate Uber Alles! 😃

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    aspnaz

    Elites deny reality

    Just the elites? It looks to me like all the normal people, the ones who could gather together, march on government and stop this nonsense, have also lost their minds, are willing to give up. It appears as though the fight or flight instinct in these people has been permanently subdued by emotional propaganda, designed to make them feel safe and, most importantly, make them feel that they belong, are part of a group which will suffer together.

    Sometimes nature will crash its systems and in this case will rid this planet of the disfunctional societies that these humans have created, it looks like we are at one of those moments in history. Nature does this to everything, this is the forest fire that will clean out the useless from the west and leave the strong behind to rebuild. It is not that the people do not realise what is happening, but it appears that the people are waiting for everything to break before they decide to consider saving themselves, this will result in their demise as they will have no resources to last them through the rebuilding process …. building takes real effort and time, destruction can be as easy as turning off the power.

    They also seem to not realise how dangerous the world becomes when people are starving and the men are trying to find food to feed their families. You think that men attacking villages with machetes in Africa, killing all the people in the village, you think that could not come to western cities or countryside? Of course it could, it is just a matter of desperation. The most dangerous thing about this disaster is that the humans are going to get very, very dangerous and show why they are the number one predator on this planet.

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    Richard+Ilfeld

    It’s probably not good to be as glibly predictive as we are; in lots of places change is coming very slowly, if at all, or is taking the form of a modest if useless tax without huge destruction. Europe may see a deindustrialization of towns and regions because if you close down for one season, and your customers go away, those you have have held through custom, tradition, and inertia will not be easy to pry from their new suppliers once you have burned them. But many of these enterprises have been protected anachronisms for years, not subject the the rigors of global competition that most outside the Eurozone face. The US has as many growth sectors and failing ones, and still the ability to adapt with great speed with surplus infrastructure and labor; only about 63% of the force works and one could argue many aren’t very productive as they simply pass papers to each other in layer upon layer of regulation. But somehow a lot has gotten done, mostly out of site of a media the doesn’t care….the little machine shop where I’ve had the odd part made for my hobbies for forty year had all human operated machines when I started going, and is all Cad-Cam and NMC now except for the welding, and somehow most of the blue collar guys are still there and have adapted; the kids (2 generations now) didn’t get farther than JC before deciding the business made more sense that a four year degree.The absolute numbers of what is made here and what is grown here continued to advance in spite of the Biden admin’s best efforts, tho we remain below the curve that might have been. But I’d submit there is still a critical mass of a working population to turn things around if current cultists in charge become a bad memory when reality deals them a bad enough hand to clear the eyes of us sheep. So I’m sayin’ there’s a chance…..

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    RickWill

    Germans have lost the plot entirely. Look at BMW’s new monstrosity:
    https://www.bmw.com/en-au/models/m-series/bmw-ix-m60/showroom/bmw-ix-m60-technical-data.html#tab-0-0
    2,440kg of very expensive crap that no one in Germany will be able to charge. They may be able to afford the monster and even the cost of the electricity but it would be a crime to plug it in to charge.

    Germany is broken. I wonder where Merkel finds herself?

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      Serge Wright

      24KWh / km seems like a mistake in the article. I’m assuming this should be per 100km. I did some number crunching on the cost of running an electric vehicle and it’s actually on par with an ICE once you include the cost of the battery. If you assume a battery cost of ~$14,000 which lasts 160,000km, you spend around $60 per tank equivalent on the battery and about the same on electricity @ 40c per KWh. This doesn’t include losses in the charging or battery cycling, so in reality, anything over 35c per KWh is going to cost more to run than an ICE, even if you’re paying $2 a litre.

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        yarpos

        I doubt many of the owners stress about the cost of filling up/charging up

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        John Hultquist

        Road taxes are coming, a home charger has to be included (or high public chargers), insurance is likely higher, and you had best park a stone’s throw from you house.

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      Jeremy Poynton

      Not to mention that the soaring price of electricity will make EV vehicles even more expensive to run than petrol and diesel vehicles.

      FUBAR

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    It wont be long before this happens in Australia. Wake up people your politicians are rapidly leading us down this path to economic oblivion.

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    Ando

    This is happening in every western nation. To make you beg for their ‘great reset’…

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    Serge Wright

    The moment of truth has arrived and the inevitable outcome of the green energy transition is now unraveling. The collapse of society and forced de-industrialisation of Europe is now locked-in and there is no turning back. I’m guessing that the green elites are in a wild party somewhere, celebrating their victory over capitalism and democracy and toasting a celebratory farewell to western civilisation. For the other 99% of the population, this collapse isn’t something to celebrate and marks a return to Victorian times where people lived a life of suffering and hardship without power, transport, fresh food, fresh water and modern medicine. However, we also need to remember that most of these people voted for this outcome of poverty, albeit they were told deliberate lies by government, the media and the once trusted institutions of learning, who were pushing Marxism under the guise of a false green utopia.

    As we watch this European outcome from down in Australia, we need to remember that our new government is part of the same elite group that seeks the same outcome down here and we also voted them into power. Seeing Chris Bowen double down on our own equivalent energy-removal transition as Europe collapses should frighten all Australians that are not part of the ruling elite club. We’re not far behind Europe and we also can’t escape the global impact of a collapsed Europe, which will ultimately take down the USA and the entire developed world’s economy. China’s new deal with the Soloman Islands is a cue to what’s coming once the west goes under.

    As history will note, the greatest threat the West faced was not from the forces of communism and totalitarianism in the east, but from those forces who resided from within that spent many decades securing power over all of our institutions, government and even our own children, who were indoctrinated and used as pawns. We surrendered to these forces long ago by watching in silence and we are now paying the ultimate price. If the west is to return then it must rid itself of the Marxist cancer from within and right now that appears an impossible task.

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    Greg in NZ

    “If all the world ate like New Zealanders, we’d need another planet.”

    Delusional, depressive, obsessive English churnalist, George Monbiot: heard on radio interview this (perfect climate) morning. When he began prattling about ‘pulling carbon out of the atmosphere’ he was gone, quick smart. Dis-mis-information.

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    exsteelworker

    Are YOU reading this Albo and Bowen?
    With these 2 in charge of our energy generation, get ready for blackouts.

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    TdeF

    People in Ireland and Scotland will start digging and drying peat again, as they had always done It’s free. 80% water.
    And they had little trains to carry the peat. All closed down now, but abundant. Needs must.

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      John Hultquist

      There are “save the peat” movements.
      If you have the facility to burn peat, start collecting and rolling “logs” of newspapers. (paper can be used as insulation too)

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    TdeF

    We were told, the world was told that so called renewables were cheaper. So why is electricity now not affordable?

    How many lies have we been told?

    1. the world is warming rapidly
    2. CO2 is the reason, so we will stop CO2 growth. CO2 is growing steadily without any effect.
    3. Renewables are Free
    4. Renewable energy is cheaper.
    4. We do not need fertilizers
    5. Snow will vanish
    6. Major cities will drown
    7. Storms will increase

    And undefined man made ‘Climate Change’ is the biggest threat to world peace and quality of life.

    So after 34 years of this, the question is, what if anything we we been told which is actually true?

    Nothing.

    Behind the renewables scam you find that nothing was true and cheaper wind and solar is not the biggest lie.

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      TdeF

      And as carbon is the 6th element of the periodic table, the essence of Organic chemistry and all life on earth, who came to the conclusion that it was toxic? The idea of sentient carbon lifeforms calling carbon toxic just boggles the mind. Rational science has been trashed by the destructive new religion of Post Modernism and people who think multiplication is the Devil’s work.

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      Dennis

      Senator Matt Canavan (National Party QLD) commented on Sky News recently that the tipping point favouring unreliable energy and other climate based politics was focus groups results and based on that Coalition members decided that for party political reasons and purposes they had to follow the other side believing most voters wanted climate action, so called.

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        Rupert Ashford

        Wonder if they learnt something over the last few months or if somebody switched on their memory in the Coalition since. They tried this stunt of pandering to the people that will cheer for you but never vote for you before and it ended us up with the Gillard government. Doesn’t look like it.

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    Roger+Knights

    Several years ago I commented on WUWT that Nigel Farage’s UKIP should take a stand against renewables as its next crusade. It didn’t do so, but it would be sitting pretty now if it had.

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    John Connor II

    I am a little surprised that Europe hasn’t erupted into mass revolution

    2023…

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    Dave in the States

    Before reading up on this thread about the EU cutting their own throats, I had just watched an NHK news cast. So some of my thinking is influenced by that.

    Anyway, in the NHK news cast they reported on how the economy in Japan is improving. They contributed this mostly to the sunsetting of Covid restrictions. Then they had the usual green energy/climate propaganda segments which all MSM outlets include in every “news cast” now. But I know when it comes to the green agenda, what the Japanese say and what they do are not quite the same. For example, Japan is building new coal plants. They are building new nuke plants. They are dismantling wind and solar farms. Maybe Japan’s more optomistic outlook has more to do with rational energy policies than relaxing Covid restrictions?

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    Robber

    Should be a boom market in diesel generators in Europe – and probably all made in China.

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      TdeF

      Depends on your car. In communist dictatorship Victoria I have three petrol generators and a siphon. We are being shut down on orders of the CCP following the release of their bioweapon. All manufacturing has ceased. And soon food production. The threat to the world of Climate Change is real as are the people behind the threat, all looking for revolution, the communist answer to capitalism.

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    Kalm Keith

    What’s going on in the world at the moment can be easily described in one word;

    Evil.

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      Dennis

      And frightening that climate hoax and warming scare hysteria has effected so many people and to the extent that elected representatives are able to lock up natural resources, impose unreliable and expensive electricity supply, ignore free enterprise and force a frighteningly expense transition to electric vehicles and all the other impositions including social engineering.

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        Daffy

        I spoke recently to a senior high student at a high fee private school. She shared her climatista political ambitions with me during our flight; I demured to her rejection of fossil fuels. She was astonished! She told me she’d never met a person who had such a view, nor had heard of any problems with the climatista agenda.
        So, in turn, I was astonished. This is the problem: the young totally blitzed by the climatistas while they frantically paddle the canoe to the top of the waterfall.

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    David Maddison

    In NSW they are building pumped hydro batteries. No new production, of course, and like all batteries, they will be a net energy drain on the grid.

    And companies are managing to harvest subsidies without even building anything.

    https://www.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/pumped-hydro

    “Funding agreements are already in place with five applicants who have received a total of $44.8 million to support pre-investment activities, establish project feasibility and develop a strategic business case,” Mr Kean said.

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      Dennis

      So three 8 hour duration, one 12 and one 24 with no mention of what they can deliver over drought years.

      And to think that NSW had reliable and cheap coal fired power station baseload supply and peak demand periods with when needed Snowy Hydro power stations back up.

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      Ronin

      “Funding agreements are already in place with five applicants who have received a total of $44.8 million to support pre-investment activities, establish project feasibility and develop a strategic business case,” Mr Kean said.”

      This rort has just got to be stopped, it is getting us nowhere except to the poorhouse.

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    John Connor II

    Who says the energy companies are greedy buzzards?

    Woman furious as she receives ‘joke’ cheque for 1p off E.ON amid energy crisis

    A woman has hit out at her energy provider for sending her a “joke” cheque – for just one pence.

    Sharon Patrick, 47, says she was given the cash by E.ON as a ‘reward’ for being a prepayment customer. But she says she felt insulted when she saw the tiny amount – especially amid the current energy crisis.

    The company apologised and said the cheque should not have been sent out in the first place. Sharon, a chef from Rochester, Kent, said: “When I opened the cheque and saw how much it was for, I thought it was laughable and insulting at the same time.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsliverpool/woman-furious-as-she-receives-joke-cheque-for-1p-off-eon-amid-energy-crisis/ar-AA11lSdx

    I suspect the woman is an ingrate. She could put that 1p towards a houseful of brand new energy saving appliances! 😅

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      Dennis

      Maybe taken it to a pub in Scotland, copper wire was created by two Scots fighting over a penny.

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        PeterPetrum

        Steady! If I didn’t have a sense of humour, I’d call that racist! An oldie, but a goodie!

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        Ronin

        I heard it was a ha’penny.

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          Jeremy Poynton

          All wrong. It was a farthing…

          For younger readers, in the old pre-decimal regime in the UK, a farthing was a quarter of a penny. And 240 pennies in a pound. So 1/960th of a pound sterling. Pretty little coin, with HM on one side and a Jenny Wren on the other

          Farthing
          Half Penny
          Penny
          Three Pence (12 sided)
          Sixpence (half a Shilling)
          Shilling (20 in a pound)
          Florin (2 shillings)
          Half Crown (2 shillings and six pence, 8 in a pound)
          Crown (legal but rarely seen other than as commemoration coins)

          Kids of my era got very good at mental arithmetic 🙂

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            Graeme#4

            Not sure about a sixpence, but the three pence were silver, so could be inserted into Christmas Puddings for the kids to find and keep. When eating Christmas pud and white sauce on Christmas Day, we were always warned to eat slowly and don’t bite down on anything hard.

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    Jeremy Poynton

    So we’ve bought a top range camping stove and propane gas bottles. Stocked up on BBQ charcoal, and also bought an air fryer – example of how they help, a burger which would require 20 minutes on the hob (we buy big ones) takes 8 minutes in the air fryer. Our cooker has an induction hob, so is very efficient. Also we are both Carnivores, so eat mostly burgers, steak and beyond delicious and highly nutritious beef fat, air fried. So sweet. I eat pork and dairy as well, but we rarely use the oven.

    Also stocked up on logs for the wood burner. Last year we rarely used the central heating, only if it were very cold in the morning, just to take the chill off the house.

    Also cancelled the direct debit, so they can’t raid the bank account, and as with many others in the UK, will refuse to pay excessive bills.

    This is largely down to the fuckwit Johnson who seems to have stopped peace talks between Russia and Ukraine, never mind NetZero, which is no more, no less than attack on the people.

    At 71 I have NEVER been so angry with our useless self-serving politicians. And don’t even mention Covid, another Johnson fuck up

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      Ross

      JP- we feel your pain in Australia as well. Most of these green policies have been encouraged or implemented by the LNP over the last 20 years. We had one PM and LNP leader (Tony Abbott) who tried his best to slow or cancel the Green Blob, but was ousted as leader by a warmist (Malcolm Turnbull).

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    John Connor II

    The 1974 energy crisis:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=kaPqzgTc9OE

    Clarke & Dawe – the energy market:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ELaBzj7cn14

    Sounds about right.
    I think we need to bring back Rubbery Figures 😉😅

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    Philip

    How on earth average to poor people afford to heat their homes even in Australia is beyond me. I have free firewood and thank goodness for that. I guess even workers are on about $50 k per year and most on what, $75K ? So they can still afford it at this stage I suppose. But what are heating costs for folk on electricity. It must be getting pretty steep.

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    Dennis

    With the AEMO and the way electricity supply is discussed by politicians and the media many voters are not aware that electricity supply is the primary responsibility of the state governments, they built and owned and managed the power stations and transmission lines and Snowy Hydro was a government owned company with shares held between NSW, VIC and Federal Government, but now wholly owned by the Federal Government since they acquired the state’s shares when Snowy 02 pumped hydro project was announced.

    It is confusing when the Federal Minister get’s involved in, for example, offshore wind turbine installation projects by private sector companies. When Snow Hydro’s CEO resgned recently and apparently after a disagreement with the new Minister who demanded that the Federal proposed, State approved, Snowy Hydro to own and operate gas fired generator for Kurri Kurri NSW use “green hydrogen” instead. The Minister was not aware that green hydrogen is still being developed and is not available commercially, and the technology could be decades into the future if successful. It’s very worrying that a Cabinet Minister was so poorly informed.

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      David Maddison

      The Minister was not aware that green hydrogen is still being developed and is not available commercially, and the technology could be decades into the future if successful.

      These are the clowns who are deciding Australia’s energy future, or rather lack-of-energy future.

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        Ronin

        It’s not like we didn’t know before the election that labor were out of touch numpties, every time Elbow or Bowen were asked something, they muffed it bigly.

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      Ross

      Its Chris Bowen, he also thinks there is Lithium in solar panels. Not smart. But, in reality I’m never convinced the Federal Minister has much influence anyway. All the energy policies were put in motion years ago, mostly by the public servants and those in AEMO.

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    John Connor II

    If John has a 10 year old toaster and his wife Karen bought a new dishwasher, how much CO2 will they stop by both dying broke and from hypothermia this winter?
    Send your answers to Klaus Schwab at [email protected]

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    Richard+Ilfeld

    Lets play pick-a-year. You can grab the international energy use history tables, from the AIO, or BP annual repoarts or even the sanitized UN versions. Grab the current production reports from the same sources, broken out by source.
    Pick a country. Assume in times of international stress, imports from countries that have their own deficits will cease; ie if France is really low of juice they’ll pretty much stop exporting. The Middle-East is likely to still ship oil to countries that buy it. Make estimates of what fraction of generation you’ll actually have, and back track on the history to get a year. If the US, for example, doesn’t buy Russian Oil, still produces gas & oil at about 85%, and has on average 12% renewables which never dispatch in a crisis, our baseline living economy that can be supported is about 2016. Because of Lake Mead and closing nukes, Ca ends up in 2010, about half the US stays in 2022. The fear that FERC will bleed energy from the haves the the Have-Nots is an assumption made with zero understanding of the infrastructure; ya can’t steal what ya can’t transfer.

    Europe looks like the mid 1970’s on this basis, which is an extremely rough estimate based on sector use, so at first pass probably suited to a party game. But if you siphon most of the energy from your industrial sector, and your central bank will print money for the winter, the balance of the EU looks MOL like 1970. Survivable. Then you’ll (if there is intelligence in leadership) have a spring and summer of energy mobilization like the start of, say, WWII, solving next winter’s problems before (presumeably) getting back on the green track.

    A political Deal with Iran brings a lot of oil to the market quickly; take those contracts in Europe and if OPEC shrinks production bugger the rest of the world, not a new thing for Europe. Use the coal you have as your last resort(of course). Fracking will probably not be up and running til the second year, just stripping out existing gas to the max will help a lot. USe the nukes you got, but other that top-drawer maintenance, Nukes are to slow for this project. The US is the swing producer. LNG transfer ports take a long time to build but transfer ships can be put up in a few months and there is a world surplus. Send diplomats to the states. “we can buy from you, or we simply have to make a deal with “THE PUTIN”.
    Saving our economy is more important than NATO. The greens in the US are not strong enough to beat the coalition that would help Europe in her hour of need AND put a lot of jobs and juice into our economy. IF put in black and white the greens would look like they were on the side of a doomsday machine.

    See, the Left has this intersectionality thing going, where if you are a myopuc true believer in any of their causes, you have to march in lockstep with them all. Sort of how totalatarianism works. So to beat it we need to gin up a cause that can, for a moment at least, capture the hearts & minds of us sheep. Now all we nee is that charismatic leader to gic the speech about the Gas Pumps of Point du Hoc.

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    CHRIS

    Give me a break. Over-analysis rules

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    Rupert Ashford

    Well the Scotts should suffer and keep their mouths shut until the they change their voting patterns – they were and are THE cheerleaders of the woke stuff in the UK. Elections have consequences.

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