Comments on: Petition: Alan Kohler wants a Royal Commission into Climate Science (to convince the skeptics) http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/ A perfectly good civilization is going to waste... Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: Kalm Keith http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2280466 Kalm Keith Mon, 24 Feb 2020 01:02:04 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2280466 Excellent point Ted, but I have run into Creationists over the last year or two and they steadfastly attach themselves to the biblical 7 day period of creation and rest. It's frightening: 2019 and it felt like 1519. KK Excellent point Ted,

but I have run into Creationists over the last year or two and they steadfastly attach themselves to the biblical 7 day period of creation and rest.

It’s frightening: 2019 and it felt like 1519.

KK

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]]> By: Ted O'Brien. http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2280460 Ted O'Brien. Mon, 24 Feb 2020 00:49:51 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2280460 I've never had any problem with the Creation issue. The whole problem there is the word 'Day" in the modern interpretation of Genesis. You've only to study one foreign language to discover that for many words there is no exact interpretation in the second language. Or there are multiple interpretations. So how many translations has Genesis's "day" come through to get to us? Clearly a day is a period of time, in this case hundreds of millions of years. Evolution is a tool of Creation. How did Genesis get the order so right? It was always there to see in the sedimentary fossil record. I have no need for further argument. I’ve never had any problem with the Creation issue. The whole problem there is the word ‘Day” in the modern interpretation of Genesis.

You’ve only to study one foreign language to discover that for many words there is no exact interpretation in the second language. Or there are multiple interpretations. So how many translations has Genesis’s “day” come through to get to us?

Clearly a day is a period of time, in this case hundreds of millions of years. Evolution is a tool of Creation.

How did Genesis get the order so right? It was always there to see in the sedimentary fossil record.

I have no need for further argument.

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]]> By: Ted O'Brien. http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2280423 Ted O'Brien. Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:41:40 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2280423 Surely it does. Scepticism is too big to avoid. I suggest that the the driving force here is the current US political scene. The trouble is that the pressure for "action" is mounting rapidly. If we rush to this "action" we will be isolating Trump. The bushfires Royal Commission is coming. It will cover some of the same ground. People will try to use it to promote the AGW scam. If we can make sure that it covers the right ground it might prove a short cut from an unexpected direction. Surely it does. Scepticism is too big to avoid. I suggest that the the driving force here is the current US political scene.

The trouble is that the pressure for “action” is mounting rapidly. If we rush to this “action” we will be isolating Trump.

The bushfires Royal Commission is coming. It will cover some of the same ground. People will try to use it to promote the AGW scam.

If we can make sure that it covers the right ground it might prove a short cut from an unexpected direction.

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]]> By: Ted O'Brien. http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2279608 Ted O'Brien. Sat, 22 Feb 2020 06:39:46 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2279608 Specialisation. The inside view. I had a friend, a wonderful friend from school days who was taken from us far too young by the Golden Staph. He was a senior lawyer in the Department of Industrial Relations, I a farmer, and we disagreed strongly on political matters. One day I tried to explain to him the inefficiency I saw when Telstra laid a trunk line through our farm. His reply: What would you know about laying telephone lines? I knew that if I paid two D7s to stand around when with better management one could have done the job in less time my farm would soon be broke. But for him that didn't count. The two jobs were insulated from each other. It was then that I realised that in his world professional people protect their patch by never dipping a toe into somebody else's patch. The end result is that within a generation there is nobody who knows how the patches fit together. It is nonsense to insist that only people with specified letters are qualified to comment on climate. Specialisation. The inside view.

I had a friend, a wonderful friend from school days who was taken from us far too young by the Golden Staph. He was a senior lawyer in the Department of Industrial Relations, I a farmer, and we disagreed strongly on political matters.

One day I tried to explain to him the inefficiency I saw when Telstra laid a trunk line through our farm. His reply: What would you know about laying telephone lines?

I knew that if I paid two D7s to stand around when with better management one could have done the job in less time my farm would soon be broke. But for him that didn’t count. The two jobs were insulated from each other.

It was then that I realised that in his world professional people protect their patch by never dipping a toe into somebody else’s patch. The end result is that within a generation there is nobody who knows how the patches fit together.

It is nonsense to insist that only people with specified letters are qualified to comment on climate.

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]]> By: Peter the old fossil http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278477 Peter the old fossil Thu, 20 Feb 2020 03:49:38 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278477 Thank you for the kind words Annie, but I am not "back". I was "disappeared" off this site by the moderators, so "disappeared" I intend to remain. But this issue is just too important to sit by and watch good people here and elsewhere be conned into supporting something something that is, from beginning to end, a con job. Thank you for the kind words Annie, but I am not “back”. I was “disappeared” off this site by the moderators, so “disappeared” I intend to remain.

But this issue is just too important to sit by and watch good people here and elsewhere be conned into supporting something something that is, from beginning to end, a con job.

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]]> By: Peter the old fossil http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278465 Peter the old fossil Thu, 20 Feb 2020 03:42:31 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278465 Nothing bloody vague about it, Jo. Google "Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019". It has already been passed by the House of Reps with Liberals, Labor, and Nationals all supporting it. It is now before the Senate. It is going through based on a limit of $10,000, but the Act allows the grubbymint to change that limit to whatever it likes, whenever it likes. Contrary to fevered imaginations it is not an attempt to create a cashless society. It will just mean YOUR money HAS to go into a bank account, and with lowered limits, be withdrawn in dribs and drabs, as already applies in Italy, Greece, and elsewhere. Meanwhile you will be charged interest on YOUR money on deposit at the bank, probably 4% to start with, but that's just a guess. After that will come a transaction fee on EVERY deposit and withdrawal through your bank account. Eventually interest rates will go up again, but the transaction fee will be with us forever and ever. Which is the whole idea. All brought to you by the Scott Morrison LIBERAL government. The SAME Morrison Liberal government you honestly expect to have an honest and open inquiry into Climate Change, which is a furphy anyway to draw attention away from the Cash Restrictions bill. Nothing bloody vague about it, Jo.

Google “Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019″.

It has already been passed by the House of Reps with Liberals, Labor, and Nationals all supporting it. It is now before the Senate. It is going through based on a limit of $10,000, but the Act allows the grubbymint to change that limit to whatever it likes, whenever it likes.

Contrary to fevered imaginations it is not an attempt to create a cashless society. It will just mean YOUR money HAS to go into a bank account, and with lowered limits, be withdrawn in dribs and drabs, as already applies in Italy, Greece, and elsewhere.

Meanwhile you will be charged interest on YOUR money on deposit at the bank, probably 4% to start with, but that’s just a guess.

After that will come a transaction fee on EVERY deposit and withdrawal through your bank account.

Eventually interest rates will go up again, but the transaction fee will be with us forever and ever. Which is the whole idea.

All brought to you by the Scott Morrison LIBERAL government. The SAME Morrison Liberal government you honestly expect to have an honest and open inquiry into Climate Change, which is a furphy anyway to draw attention away from the Cash Restrictions bill.

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]]> By: Annie http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278440 Annie Thu, 20 Feb 2020 03:19:13 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278440 Nice to see you back Peter...I used to enjoy your comments. I'm sorry to hear you've been having such a rough time. Nice to see you back Peter…I used to enjoy your comments.
I’m sorry to hear you’ve been having such a rough time.

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]]> By: Gee Aye http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278404 Gee Aye Thu, 20 Feb 2020 02:54:34 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278404 It retains moisture, specifically as condensate, which is in equilibrium with the trapped air. Unless measurements are provided, the act of breathing into a container would not raise the internal CO2 for more than a very brief time. He doesn't have a gas seal. It retains moisture, specifically as condensate, which is in equilibrium with the trapped air. Unless measurements are provided, the act of breathing into a container would not raise the internal CO2 for more than a very brief time. He doesn’t have a gas seal.

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]]> By: george1st:) http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278395 george1st:) Thu, 20 Feb 2020 02:48:23 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278395 Careful what we wish for , Who could possibly adjudicate the outcome , What would be the criteria , Evidence only from 'peer' reviewed 'scientists ? Us against the EU,UN,Ipcc ? Lots of money and future promotions in the balance . Would become a political circus promoted by certain media and influential high profile celebrities and the enriched . Careful what we wish for ,
Who could possibly adjudicate the outcome ,
What would be the criteria ,
Evidence only from ‘peer’ reviewed ‘scientists ?
Us against the EU,UN,Ipcc ?
Lots of money and future promotions in the balance .
Would become a political circus promoted by certain media and influential high profile celebrities and the enriched .

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]]> By: DMA http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278378 DMA Thu, 20 Feb 2020 02:32:13 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278378 This "fingerprint " has been falsified. See Berry's paper at http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo?journalid=298&doi=10.11648/j.ijaos.20190301.13. The reason it was mistaken as a fingerprint is that natural CO2/13 emissions are temperature controlled like CO2/12 but anti-correlated to to them. This “fingerprint ” has been falsified. See Berry’s paper at
http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo?journalid=298&doi=10.11648/j.ijaos.20190301.13.
The reason it was mistaken as a fingerprint is that natural CO2/13 emissions are temperature controlled like CO2/12 but anti-correlated to to them.

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]]> By: Jo Nova http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278344 Jo Nova Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:25:53 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278344 So tell us about the bank / money legislation. Hard to search for vague terms. I assume you also mean "negative interest rates" and that absurdity of industrial banker theft of which I am aware. So sorry to hear about Marilyn. A seismic kind of event in anyone's life to lose a soulmate. :- ( You were fortunate to have spent so long together. I'm glad to hear your heart surgery went so well, hope Coronavirus doesn't come our way until they have a treatment. PS: Email coming. So tell us about the bank / money legislation. Hard to search for vague terms. I assume you also mean “negative interest rates” and that absurdity of industrial banker theft of which I am aware.

So sorry to hear about Marilyn. A seismic kind of event in anyone’s life to lose a soulmate. :- ( You were fortunate to have spent so long together. I’m glad to hear your heart surgery went so well, hope Coronavirus doesn’t come our way until they have a treatment.

PS: Email coming.

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]]> By: MarkMcD http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278336 MarkMcD Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:17:47 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278336 Does anyone imagine sceptics will get a chance to design the questions and/or format of such a RC? Does anyone think ANY sceptical scientist (yeah, I know, a tautology) will even get an invite? Does anyone think it will make a difference? After all, we’ve all seen how many bankers got charged with fraud and malpractice from the Banking RC right? Oh… Wait… Keep waiting… Does anyone imagine sceptics will get a chance to design the questions and/or format of such a RC? Does anyone think ANY sceptical scientist (yeah, I know, a tautology) will even get an invite?

Does anyone think it will make a difference? After all, we’ve all seen how many bankers got charged with fraud and malpractice from the Banking RC right?

Oh… Wait…

Keep waiting…

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]]> By: el gordo http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278333 el gordo Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:08:57 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278333 Terms of Reference have been released, the Murdoch Press is running the story but the ABC and Guardian are mute at the moment. Apparently its all about hazard reduction and nothing much on climate change. Terms of Reference have been released, the Murdoch Press is running the story but the ABC and Guardian are mute at the moment. Apparently its all about hazard reduction and nothing much on climate change.

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]]> By: el gordo http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278327 el gordo Thu, 20 Feb 2020 00:56:39 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278327 Its on ... 'Earlier this month Scott Morrison said he had selected former chief of the Defence Force, Air Chief Marshall Mark Binskin, to lead an inquiry should it go ahead.' SMH Its on …

‘Earlier this month Scott Morrison said he had selected former chief of the Defence Force, Air Chief Marshall Mark Binskin, to lead an inquiry should it go ahead.’ SMH

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]]> By: AndyG55 http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/sign-the-petition-alan-kohler-wants-a-royal-commission-into-climate-science-to-convince-the-skeptics/#comment-2278227 AndyG55 Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:25:37 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69381#comment-2278227 https://youtu.be/XfRBr7PEawY?t=1568 I've started the video at about the right place. Go to around the 55 minute mark. Have fun with the Irish accents ;-) https://youtu.be/XfRBr7PEawY?t=1568

I’ve started the video at about the right place. Go to around the 55 minute mark.

Have fun with the Irish accents ;-)

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