Comments on: Iran may have been hiding Coronavirus for weeks. Tajikistan closes borders, but $800 still buys a flight to Melbourne http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/ A perfectly good civilization is going to waste... Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: justjoshin http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281965 justjoshin Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:43:40 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281965 They can just walk it in. They can just walk it in.

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]]> By: golfsailor http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281926 golfsailor Wed, 26 Feb 2020 22:43:19 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281926 Mortality of closed cases outside China : 2.86% 3.14% 3.85% 4.85% 5.98% 7.43% 9.51% 13.19% 13.83% 15.47% TheEpochTimes.com today claim to have internal Chinese documents showing <strong>under reporting</strong> officially up to 50 times. www.theepochtimes.com/leaked-documents-reveal-chinas-shandong-province-faked-coronavirus-infection-data-real-numbers-up-to-52-times-higher_3251354.html New cases per day after Feb 18th outside China : 134 117 125 250 314 379 275 268 564 I now also save numbers per country. Mortality of closed cases outside China :

2.86%
3.14%
3.85%
4.85%
5.98%
7.43%
9.51%
13.19%
13.83%
15.47%

TheEpochTimes.com today claim to have internal Chinese documents showing under reporting officially up to 50 times.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/leaked-documents-reveal-chinas-shandong-province-faked-coronavirus-infection-data-real-numbers-up-to-52-times-higher_3251354.html

New cases per day after Feb 18th outside China :

134
117
125
250
314
379
275
268
564

I now also save numbers per country.

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]]> By: Meglort http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281911 Meglort Wed, 26 Feb 2020 22:06:50 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281911 What has been suspected for while: https://www.theepochtimes.com/leaked-documents-reveal-chinas-shandong-province-faked-coronavirus-infection-data-real-numbers-up-to-52-times-higher_3251354.html What has been suspected for while:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/leaked-documents-reveal-chinas-shandong-province-faked-coronavirus-infection-data-real-numbers-up-to-52-times-higher_3251354.html

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]]> By: Bill In Oz http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281748 Bill In Oz Wed, 26 Feb 2020 12:28:55 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281748 In Singapore there is some good news ! Singapore has developed a new serological test to establish links between cases. The test can detect antibodies in blood samples for contact tracing and establishing links between cases. One of the medical tools needed to get a grip on this disease ! https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3052311/coronavirus-singapore-bans-visitors-south-korean In Singapore there is some good news !

Singapore has developed a new serological test to establish links between cases. The test can detect antibodies in blood samples for contact tracing and establishing links between cases.

One of the medical tools needed to get a grip on this disease !

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3052311/coronavirus-singapore-bans-visitors-south-korean

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]]> By: Eddie http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281673 Eddie Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:52:52 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281673 OK Ta. Like whether we are in a pandemic or not. OK Ta. Like whether we are in a pandemic or not.

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]]> By: Rocket Rod http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281669 Rocket Rod Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:40:27 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281669 A VERY good read here: Logistical and technical analysis of the nCov-19 origins <a href="https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of-the-origins-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov/" rel="nofollow"> A VERY good read here:
Logistical and technical analysis of the nCov-19 origins

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]]> By: Bill In Oz http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281644 Bill In Oz Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:03:00 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281644 Meanwhile the ABC is propagating propaganda An excellent example is this 'Analysis" by an ABC reporter Who is taking his wife & 2 small kids to Italy in March for a holiday ! No doubt when caught up in the quarantine He will be whining to be rescued at public expense by the Australian government ! Bloody dumbnut ! https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/coronavirus-covid-19-travelling-to-italy-with-small-children/12001516 Meanwhile the ABC is propagating propaganda
An excellent example is this ‘Analysis” by an ABC reporter
Who is taking his wife & 2 small kids to Italy in March for a holiday !
No doubt when caught up in the quarantine
He will be whining to be rescued at public expense by the Australian government !
Bloody dumbnut !

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/coronavirus-covid-19-travelling-to-italy-with-small-children/12001516

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]]> By: Orson Olson http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281628 Orson Olson Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:08:32 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281628 Some may not grasp "The Manhattan Project" reference to my last post, especially the young reader. It was the secret code name of the project to built the first atomic bomb. In 1939, Albert Einstein warned President Roosevelt that the Germans were developing such a new weapon. By 1942, the Project was launched. Some 6,000 scientists and engineers, 130,000 people, and over 37 facilities were involved. My vague recollection is that one-third of US GDP, or one-third of US electricity, or another unimaginably large figure has been cited to explain how immense the mission was and all the war resources it consumed. Anyway, while a paltry $2.5 billion dollars public health effort (currently scheduled) is very small to compared to that. But add in state and local resources and soon enough private medical resources...and the label might not be too far off. Such comparisons with government led maximum efforts at protection and defense of the nation to The Manhattan Project have been made, perhaps, every generation since World War II. Some may not grasp “The Manhattan Project” reference to my last post, especially the young reader. It was the secret code name of the project to built the first atomic bomb. In 1939, Albert Einstein warned President Roosevelt that the Germans were developing such a new weapon. By 1942, the Project was launched. Some 6,000 scientists and engineers, 130,000 people, and over 37 facilities were involved.

My vague recollection is that one-third of US GDP, or one-third of US electricity, or another unimaginably large figure has been cited to explain how immense the mission was and all the war resources it consumed.

Anyway, while a paltry $2.5 billion dollars public health effort (currently scheduled) is very small to compared to that. But add in state and local resources and soon enough private medical resources…and the label might not be too far off. Such comparisons with government led maximum efforts at protection and defense of the nation to The Manhattan Project have been made, perhaps, every generation since World War II.

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]]> By: Orson Olson http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281593 Orson Olson Wed, 26 Feb 2020 07:00:11 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281593 Trump's Corona Virus Team's 4 point plan: Tucker Carson at Fox News Channel spends 3 minutes with economist Peter Navarro who sits on President Trump's Corona virus crisis team. He outlines 4 ambitious steps in the plan to deal with the killer virus, and step two includes 3 treatment innovations of antivirals and monoclonal antibodies to boost immune systems. This is needed, comprehensive, and Navarro says to be completed in "Trump time." While I doubt the likelihood of the last, this really is The Manhattan style project that this emergency calls for. Special abbreviations: RFP=formal government purchase contract from the market. HHS= Cabinet level department of Health and Human Services. https://video.foxnews.com/v/6135954780001 This TV segment is mislabeled as virus prevention. Really, it is all about protection of human lives after that killer virus is in the USA. Trump’s Corona Virus Team’s 4 point plan:

Tucker Carson at Fox News Channel spends 3 minutes with economist Peter Navarro who sits on President Trump’s Corona virus crisis team. He outlines 4 ambitious steps in the plan to deal with the killer virus, and step two includes 3 treatment innovations of antivirals and monoclonal antibodies to boost immune systems. This is needed, comprehensive, and Navarro says to be completed in “Trump time.” While I doubt the likelihood of the last, this really is The Manhattan style project that this emergency calls for.

Special abbreviations: RFP=formal government purchase contract from the market. HHS= Cabinet level department of Health and Human Services.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6135954780001

This TV segment is mislabeled as virus prevention. Really, it is all about protection of human lives after that killer virus is in the USA.

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]]> By: STJOHNOFGRAFTON http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281581 STJOHNOFGRAFTON Wed, 26 Feb 2020 06:36:50 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281581 Now that we are all in thrall to pandemic hype and obfuscation is a real agenda about to be revealed? Now that we are all in thrall to pandemic hype and obfuscation is a real agenda about to be revealed?

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]]> By: Bill In Oz http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281521 Bill In Oz Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:58:37 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281521 Courtesy of E M Smith at Chiefio: "Worldometers.info has things still climbing: S. Korea 1,146 Diamond Princess 691 Italy 323 Japan 161 So S. Korea breaks a thousand and Italy is 1/3 of the way there." Courtesy of E M Smith at Chiefio:
“Worldometers.info has things still climbing:

S. Korea 1,146
Diamond Princess 691
Italy 323
Japan 161

So S. Korea breaks a thousand and Italy is 1/3 of the way there.”

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]]> By: Bill In Oz http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281519 Bill In Oz Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:47:27 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281519 Which did not stop many of those same religions opposing modern medical based treatment of many medical conditions. Which did not stop many of those same religions
opposing modern medical based treatment of many medical conditions.

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]]> By: Bill In Oz http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281517 Bill In Oz Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:41:36 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281517 Bob I too am hopeful that this virus cannot survive in warm parts of the earth. Hopeful ! But it is NOT alarmist of Jo to post about a new pandemic disease Which we have no immunity to. Which there is no vaccine for. Which behaves in ways which we do not yet understand, Which has killed ~ 50,000 people in China alone if the cremation rates are accurate, And which has spread to a number of other countries such as Iran, Italy, South Korea is a rapid and completely unpredicted way. Thinking about these facts I think your comment is an insult to Jo. I suggest an apology is needed by you ! Bob I too am hopeful that this virus cannot survive in warm parts of the earth.
Hopeful !
But it is NOT alarmist of Jo to post about a new pandemic disease
Which we have no immunity to.
Which there is no vaccine for.
Which behaves in ways which we do not yet understand,
Which has killed ~ 50,000 people in China alone if the cremation rates are accurate,
And which has spread to a number of other countries such as Iran, Italy, South Korea is a rapid and completely unpredicted way.

Thinking about these facts I think your comment is an insult to Jo.
I suggest an apology is needed by you !

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]]> By: Bill In Oz http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281516 Bill In Oz Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:33:35 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281516 One of the real problems with this pandemic disease is the natural human Response to a crisis : SEEK REFUGE ELSEWHERE ! People fear the disease and so seek to escape it by going elsewhere. And in the process take the disease with them , Carried by those who have the virus with no symptoms. Applying that to Australia's unique circumstances I wonder if we will see a big increase in applications for visas Student visas, Tourist visas business visas, business visas, partner visas And even asylum seeker visas. From persons in countries where the virus is already established Or nearby countries. There are two alternative policies if we face this situation 1: Ban all entrants for a period 2: Require all persons from such countries to live a period in quarantine isolation for 14 days at a designated quarantine facility. One of the real problems with this pandemic disease is the natural human
Response to a crisis :
SEEK REFUGE ELSEWHERE !
People fear the disease and so seek to escape it by going elsewhere.
And in the process take the disease with them ,
Carried by those who have the virus with no symptoms.

Applying that to Australia’s unique circumstances
I wonder if we will see a big increase in applications for visas
Student visas, Tourist visas business visas, business visas, partner visas
And even asylum seeker visas.
From persons in countries where the virus is already established
Or nearby countries.

There are two alternative policies if we face this situation
1: Ban all entrants for a period
2: Require all persons from such countries to live a period in quarantine isolation for 14 days at a designated quarantine facility.

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]]> By: el gordo http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/iran-has-been-hiding-coronavirus-for-weeks-albania-closes-borders-but-830-still-buys-a-flight-to-melbourne/#comment-2281510 el gordo Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:15:25 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69551#comment-2281510 Its off topic so I'll confine myself to a few key words: Revelations, Taiping Rebellion and Cargo Cult. Its off topic so I’ll confine myself to a few key words: Revelations, Taiping Rebellion and Cargo Cult.

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