Comments on: Coronavirus: And so it spreads, lock downs in Italy, South Korea, riot in Ukraine http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/ A perfectly good civilization is going to waste... Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: cedarhill http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2281083 cedarhill Tue, 25 Feb 2020 04:15:23 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2281083 China is a very big nation. Small rates become huge numbers. For example, conservative numbers from various sources/reports peg about 9,000,000 (nine million) Chinese die each and every year. And it's difficult, according to WHO, to know the exact number due to, well, it's China. Anyway, That works out to about 24,600 deaths per day. And just in a normal year. The Wuhan virus, so far, would account for about 1/10th of 1 days death total. Meanwhile, in the US, the CDC recently announced that 54 children, so far this year, have died of influenza B. Perspective. Meanwhile, billions are being made during this round induced "panic pandemic", as, of course, usually happens. I hope no one has panicked and are selling into these sell-offs. Buying is your best panic-driven strategy today. China is a very big nation. Small rates become huge numbers. For example, conservative numbers from various sources/reports peg about 9,000,000 (nine million) Chinese die each and every year. And it’s difficult, according to WHO, to know the exact number due to, well, it’s China. Anyway,

That works out to about 24,600 deaths per day. And just in a normal year.

The Wuhan virus, so far, would account for about 1/10th of 1 days death total.

Meanwhile, in the US, the CDC recently announced that 54 children, so far this year, have died of influenza B.

Perspective.

Meanwhile, billions are being made during this round induced “panic pandemic”, as, of course, usually happens. I hope no one has panicked and are selling into these sell-offs. Buying is your best panic-driven strategy today.

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]]> By: Chad http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280482 Chad Mon, 24 Feb 2020 01:32:49 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280482 Total worldwide deaths in 2019 attriutable to the flu virus was 640,000. Total worldwide deaths in 2019 attriutable to the flu virus was 640,000.

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]]> By: Sceptical Sam http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280474 Sceptical Sam Mon, 24 Feb 2020 01:15:12 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280474 Thank you. :-) Thank you.

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]]> By: Eddie http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280420 Eddie Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:34:53 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280420 These numbers are only the tips of some much larger icebergs as Italy shoots up to 155 cases with a still unknown spreader at large "Police are patrolling 11 towns – mostly in the Lombardy region, where the first locally transmitted case emerged – that have been in lockdown since Friday night." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread These numbers are only the tips of some much larger icebergs as Italy shoots up to 155 cases with a still unknown spreader at large

“Police are patrolling 11 towns – mostly in the Lombardy region, where the first locally transmitted case emerged – that have been in lockdown since Friday night.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread

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]]> By: Chad http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280417 Chad Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:25:52 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280417 Why calculate death rate from anythin other than a known base number. ?....total population ! That is how the 0.01% death rate figure we have for “conventional” flu is derived, so we should be doing similar calculations for CV19 Why calculate death rate from anythin other than a known base number. ?….total population !
That is how the 0.01% death rate figure we have for “conventional” flu is derived, so we should be doing similar calculations for CV19

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]]> By: Eddie http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280403 Eddie Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:04:21 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280403 These numbers are only the tips of some much larger icebergs as Italy shoots up to 155 cases with a still unknown spreader at large "Police are patrolling 11 towns – mostly in the Lombardy region, where the first locally transmitted case emerged – that have been in lockdown since Friday night. The latest victim died in the Lombardy city of Cremona." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread These numbers are only the tips of some much larger icebergs as Italy shoots up to 155 cases with a still unknown spreader at large

“Police are patrolling 11 towns – mostly in the Lombardy region, where the first locally transmitted case emerged – that have been in lockdown since Friday night. The latest victim died in the Lombardy city of Cremona.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread

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]]> By: golfsailor http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280263 golfsailor Sun, 23 Feb 2020 16:27:52 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280263 The actual mortality will fall when we have a way to cure this thing and a vaccine. Until then the only way is quarantine long enough and the mortality will stay at d/(d+r). If the now developed vaccine in Texas is working this will hopefully end by next year. Until then better be prepared and not sold fairy tales. The actual mortality will fall when we have a way to cure this thing and a vaccine. Until then the only way is quarantine long enough and the mortality will stay at d/(d+r). If the now developed vaccine in Texas is working this will hopefully end by next year. Until then better be prepared and not sold fairy tales.

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]]> By: golfsailor http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280259 golfsailor Sun, 23 Feb 2020 16:19:00 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280259 Now we have this outside China : (Yesterday) www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Cases outside China New Cases Recovered Severe Severe % Death Death Rate of Resolved cases Total (Open cases) Death / (Recovered + Death) 897 170 40 5.54% 5 2.86% 1031 134 185 39 4.64% 6 3.14% 1148 117 200 47 5.00% 8 3.85% 1273 125 216 47 4.49% 11 4.85% 1523 250 236 53 4.17% 15 5.98% 1837 314 249 76 4.85% 20 7.43% Now we have this outside China : (Yesterday)

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
and
gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Cases outside China
New Cases Recovered
Severe Severe % Death Death Rate of Resolved cases
Total (Open cases) Death / (Recovered + Death)

897 170 40 5.54% 5 2.86%
1031 134 185 39 4.64% 6 3.14%
1148 117 200 47 5.00% 8 3.85%
1273 125 216 47 4.49% 11 4.85%
1523 250 236 53 4.17% 15 5.98%
1837 314 249 76 4.85% 20 7.43%

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]]> By: TedM http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280192 TedM Sun, 23 Feb 2020 12:17:42 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280192 Madness, insanity, crass stupidity take your pick. They all fit the Govts. decision to bring these students in. Their has been no indication of any intended quarantine period. Yesterday I was sitting waiting for a train in Perth. I realised that I was sitting next to two Chinese students that by the tags on their baggage had just flown in from overseas. I didn't see enough to tell just where they had flown from. It made me realise just how careful one will have to be when this thing finally gets out of hand here. You note, I say when, not if it gets out of hand because the writing is on the wall. Madness, insanity, crass stupidity take your pick. They all fit the Govts. decision to bring these students in. Their has been no indication of any intended quarantine period.

Yesterday I was sitting waiting for a train in Perth. I realised that I was sitting next to two Chinese students that by the tags on their baggage had just flown in from overseas. I didn’t see enough to tell just where they had flown from. It made me realise just how careful one will have to be when this thing finally gets out of hand here. You note, I say when, not if it gets out of hand because the writing is on the wall.

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]]> By: Leo G http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280178 Leo G Sun, 23 Feb 2020 11:30:57 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280178 Jo's Worldometer" statistics imply a mortality rate of 10.2% (of the 30% (23,085) of cases that are finalised). Jo’s Worldometer” statistics imply a mortality rate of 10.2% (of the 30% (23,085) of cases that are finalised).

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]]> By: Eddie http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280145 Eddie Sun, 23 Feb 2020 10:01:53 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280145 A great site but still rather scary/speculative with the headlines. If you'd like a deadpan delivery based on WHO & researched sources but still with a healthy mux of insight and scepticism Dr John Campbell has been giving several video updates a day for weeks now Here's one such recent update. Need to watch the whole 10 minutes to get a flavour but my fave is at 9m40s https://youtu.be/VasccCzr2TY A great site but still rather scary/speculative with the headlines.

If you’d like a deadpan delivery based on WHO & researched sources but still with a healthy mux of insight and scepticism Dr John Campbell has been giving several video updates a day for weeks now

Here’s one such recent update.
Need to watch the whole 10 minutes to get a flavour but my fave is at 9m40s
https://youtu.be/VasccCzr2TY

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]]> By: Sceptical Sam http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280138 Sceptical Sam Sun, 23 Feb 2020 09:47:46 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280138 Have you got a link you can share, golfsailor? :-) Have you got a link you can share, golfsailor?

:-)

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]]> By: Sceptical Sam http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280137 Sceptical Sam Sun, 23 Feb 2020 09:45:45 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280137 golfsailor, Where do your figures come from? Got a link? golfsailor,

Where do your figures come from?

Got a link?

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]]> By: Bill In Oz http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280130 Bill In Oz Sun, 23 Feb 2020 09:13:45 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280130 Dry food is usually a cheaper alternative. Dry food is usually a cheaper alternative.

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]]> By: DaveR http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/coronavirus-and-so-it-spreads-lock-downs-in-italy-south-korea-riot-in-ukraine/#comment-2280120 DaveR Sun, 23 Feb 2020 08:50:03 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69487#comment-2280120 Jo, I agree as well. Flights, shipping, repatriations may all be bringing it in, especially if that asymptomatic period is 27 days for healthier people, and even longer for some children. Jo, I agree as well. Flights, shipping, repatriations may all be bringing it in, especially if that asymptomatic period is 27 days for healthier people, and even longer for some children.

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