Comments on: Australia installs more renewables than anywhere else but national emissions stay the same http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/ A perfectly good civilization is going to waste... Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: sophocles http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2282058 sophocles Thu, 27 Feb 2020 03:43:53 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2282058 <blockquote>They keep saying “investment” in renewables. Investment normally means a positive return, on the money spent.</blockquote> Right. That's the only warning you will get. All `returns' on their `investments' are theft ... from you and yours.

They keep saying “investment” in renewables. Investment normally means a positive return, on the money spent.

Right.
That’s the only warning you will get. All `returns’ on their `investments’ are theft … from you and yours.

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]]> By: Chad http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281998 Chad Thu, 27 Feb 2020 01:25:27 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281998 Who falls for this crap ! Whilst the 5b “Maverick “ system is clever ( portable /temporary solar systems)..... https://5b.com.au/solutions/ ...how can they (or the media) keep a straight face when they say this is better, quicker, cheaper, than a diesel generator ? $12.0m for 100 systems..($120k per install ?) for a max of 400kWh/day. That is equivalent to a 16.0kW genny ! ( which will fit in the back of a small ute !..... ...... And cost less than $10k. Just more virtue signaling and attention grabbing ! Who falls for this crap !
Whilst the 5b “Maverick “ system is clever ( portable /temporary solar systems)…..
https://5b.com.au/solutions/
…how can they (or the media) keep a straight face when they say this is better, quicker, cheaper, than a diesel generator ?
$12.0m for 100 systems..($120k per install ?) for a max of 400kWh/day.
That is equivalent to a 16.0kW genny ! ( which will fit in the back of a small ute !…..
…… And cost less than $10k.
Just more virtue signaling and attention grabbing !

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]]> By: Mike http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281976 Mike Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:53:34 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281976 From what I can see the ABC is the media arm of the CPSU From what I can see the ABC is the media arm of the CPSU

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]]> By: Mike http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281974 Mike Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:52:12 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281974 I can’t point to a conspiracy theory as such, but there’s no doubt Climate Change scratches a lot of backs.. I can’t point to a conspiracy theory as such, but there’s no doubt Climate Change scratches a lot of backs..

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]]> By: Mike http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281966 Mike Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:46:13 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281966 Vladimir, you could ask them what they’re going to do for economic when reform when Climate Change has run it’s course. Vladimir, you could ask them what they’re going to do for economic when reform when Climate Change has run it’s course.

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]]> By: Gee Aye http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281935 Gee Aye Wed, 26 Feb 2020 22:58:19 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281935 well I was getting a bit bored moderating my own blog. You know how popular it is well I was getting a bit bored moderating my own blog. You know how popular it is

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]]> By: Kalm Keith http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281795 Kalm Keith Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:37:49 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281795 Let's say that again, and again. "CO2 levels in the Atmosphere are controlled by the Oceans". KK Let’s say that again, and again.

“CO2 levels in the Atmosphere are controlled by the Oceans”.

KK

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]]> By: Kalm Keith http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281789 Kalm Keith Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:25:12 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281789 It's a sick business. Totally demoralizing. It’s a sick business.

Totally demoralizing.

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]]> By: Tel http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281751 Tel Wed, 26 Feb 2020 12:44:20 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281751 There's a comment in the report linked above. <blockquote>Unadjusted emissions from stationary energy excluding electricity are estimated to have increased by 3.5 Mt COR2R-e in the year to June 2019 compared with the year to June 2018. This was driven primarily by a 1.4 Mt CO2-e increase due to the 21.3 per cent in LNG exports in the year to June 2019 (Figure 10).</blockquote> The figure shows LNG exports which have been steadily increasing but more rapidly increasing since 2015 and this is in the "Stationary energy excluding electricity" section (p13). It's not clear from their comments how they calculate this, but it's one heck of a big increase and you don't hear the media talking about it while they kick around the Aussie consumer. In the "Overview" section they have a similar comment (p8): <blockquote>Emissions from total export industries increased by 6 per cent, mainly reflecting the increases in LNG exports (up 21.3 per cent). The increases in LNG exports contributed 1.4 Mt CO2-e to the 3.5 Mt CO2-e increase in stationary energy emissions and 4.8 Mt CO2-e to fugitive emissions due to flaring and the venting and leakage of methane and carbon dioxide.</blockquote> I understand the "fugitive emissions" simply means leaked fuel or any flared off gas. However the remainder I'm not sure, could be the LNG industry consumes a certain percentage of their own product to power their equipment. There’s a comment in the report linked above.

Unadjusted emissions from stationary energy excluding electricity are estimated to have increased by 3.5 Mt COR2R-e in the year to June 2019 compared with the year to June 2018. This was driven primarily by a 1.4 Mt CO2-e increase due to the 21.3 per cent in LNG exports in the year to June 2019 (Figure 10).

The figure shows LNG exports which have been steadily increasing but more rapidly increasing since 2015 and this is in the “Stationary energy excluding electricity” section (p13). It’s not clear from their comments how they calculate this, but it’s one heck of a big increase and you don’t hear the media talking about it while they kick around the Aussie consumer.

In the “Overview” section they have a similar comment (p8):

Emissions from total export industries increased by 6 per cent, mainly reflecting the increases in LNG exports (up 21.3 per cent). The increases in LNG exports contributed 1.4 Mt CO2-e to the 3.5 Mt CO2-e increase in stationary energy emissions and 4.8 Mt CO2-e to fugitive emissions due to flaring and the venting and leakage of methane and carbon dioxide.

I understand the “fugitive emissions” simply means leaked fuel or any flared off gas. However the remainder I’m not sure, could be the LNG industry consumes a certain percentage of their own product to power their equipment.

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]]> By: sophocles http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281587 sophocles Wed, 26 Feb 2020 06:48:32 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281587 Bother: (I keep doing this:) https://www.nature.com/articles/srep35070.pdf is the complete paper. Bother: (I keep doing this:)

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep35070.pdf

is the complete paper.

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]]> By: sophocles http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281585 sophocles Wed, 26 Feb 2020 06:45:32 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281585 Sorry Zoe, I should have pointed that better. Much better. ;-) This is not your problem ... Hmm, I would want some hard data from the author esp. measurements. Here's the URL for the complete paper --- some of the engineers aboard might be interested. Sorry Zoe, I should have pointed that better. Much better. ;-)
This is not your problem … Hmm, I would want some hard data from the author esp. measurements. Here’s the URL for the complete paper — some of the engineers aboard might be interested.

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]]> By: sophocles http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281576 sophocles Wed, 26 Feb 2020 06:17:35 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281576 You're so right. You’re so right.

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]]> By: Gee Aye http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281534 Gee Aye Wed, 26 Feb 2020 04:43:01 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281534 Do you mean is CO2 well mixed in the atmosphere? I'd like to see the measurements. If you have access to some then you wont need an opinion. The not so good mixing I know about is on a global scale with between hemispheres and within the hemispheres differences due mainly to seasonal and regional photosynthesis differences. As for cause of warming at what point do you permit extrapolation from measured properties and observation? We can't measure every molecule's activity and we can't create a second GHGless earth so we are stuck with our limitations - limtiations that apply to everyone no matter what their theory (e.g. magic photons and gravity). As with all (bold and underline) science you have to rely on assumptions at some point. Do you mean is CO2 well mixed in the atmosphere? I’d like to see the measurements. If you have access to some then you wont need an opinion. The not so good mixing I know about is on a global scale with between hemispheres and within the hemispheres differences due mainly to seasonal and regional photosynthesis differences.

As for cause of warming at what point do you permit extrapolation from measured properties and observation? We can’t measure every molecule’s activity and we can’t create a second GHGless earth so we are stuck with our limitations – limtiations that apply to everyone no matter what their theory (e.g. magic photons and gravity). As with all (bold and underline) science you have to rely on assumptions at some point.

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]]> By: robert rosicka http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281527 robert rosicka Wed, 26 Feb 2020 04:13:48 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281527 Gee Aye the verification that CO2 causes climate change is the bit that's missing . Yes there's a theory and yes there's a computer model but please point me in the right direction for something that's provable and not a guess or a game . Also in your opinion is CO2 a well mixed gas ? Gee Aye the verification that CO2 causes climate change is the bit that’s missing .
Yes there’s a theory and yes there’s a computer model but please point me in the right direction for something that’s provable and not a guess or a game .
Also in your opinion is CO2 a well mixed gas ?

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]]> By: Gee Aye http://joannenova.com.au/2020/02/australia-installs-more-renewables-than-anywhere-else-but-national-emissions-stay-the-same/#comment-2281518 Gee Aye Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:45:46 +0000 http://joannenova.com.au/?p=69541#comment-2281518 CO2's effect has been measured, studied, quantified and verified in so many different ways I have no idea which new verification is needed. If someone rejects the notion that CO2 has a measured and well documented absorption and emission spectra, and that experimental and atmospheric observational data are completely in accordance with expectations based on the physical properties of CO2 then there is nowhere to go and nothing to admit to. CO2′s effect has been measured, studied, quantified and verified in so many different ways I have no idea which new verification is needed.

If someone rejects the notion that CO2 has a measured and well documented absorption and emission spectra, and that experimental and atmospheric observational data are completely in accordance with expectations based on the physical properties of CO2 then there is nowhere to go and nothing to admit to.

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