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    Gee Aye

    Has anyone got Mario Kart tour working on their IOS device yet?

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      AndyG55

      gees, yet another climate model !! 😉

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      Crakar24

      I am more of a world of russia tanks man GEA sorry i cant help

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      george1st:)

      O/t , but put here because i would like some educated answers please ;
      In my opinion clouds have far greater impact on temperature, short term for sure , long term perhaps than CO2 .
      Cloudy day= lower temp , cloudy night= higher temp
      Cloudless day =higher temp cloudless night =lower temp
      These temp variations can be 5 to 10 ‘c or 20 to 40’c in diff parts of world and seasons .
      Simple Simon says if u measured temp in a confined environment with heat coming from an outside overhead source , changing the CO2 level from .0002 or .0003 % to .0004% or .0005% will be negligible to the surface or volume compared with being able to add or remove a cloud layer .
      It just seems like common sense that clouds reflect heat from above and below in far greater fashion than the little CO2 molecule .

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        Kalm Keith

        Good outline George.

        I think that the main operating mechanism at work is not return of energy to Earth from on high but the slowing of heat loss after the days warm up from the sun.

        Maybe an analogy could be drawn from the Yo Yo.

        KK

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    Perth is the Australian city which has warmed the most, since 1880.

    Perth has warmed by 1.65 degrees Celsius, since 1880.

    That is nearly twice the amount that Darwin has warmed, since 1880.

    In Australia, if any city had a good case for declaring a climate emergency, then surely it would have to be Perth.

    But wait. We have been talking about temperature anomalies, not real absolute temperatures.

    Are you brave enough to look at the real absolute temperatures that Perth has been enduring (timid people should not read this article – you have been warned).

    https://agree-to-disagree.com/global-warming-in-australian-cities

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      Gee Aye

      thanks for the warning

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      Bruce J

      Looking at the subject graphs, Perth warmed significantly faster after the early 1990’s which happens to coincide with the relocation of the Perth weather station. It was moved from the old Observatory site near Parliament House, a site exposed to the famed “Fremantle Doctor” south westerly summer afternoon sea breeze, to a new location in Mount Lawley about 5km to the North-East which is not exposed to the “Doctor” until about half an hour later in the afternoon. So the new site can be exposed to the hot Easterly winds, or at least untempered sunshine for an extra half hour each summer day, and, in Perth, that half an hour can result in significantly higher temperatures in summer.

      How many other locations have had moves like this, and how have records been co-related to reflect the different factors affecting the temperature measurements?

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        Graeme#4

        Actually there was the East Perth site, which I think started in 1967 and took over Perth temp measurement from Mt Eliza. Worked near the East Perth site, and I remember that it also cooled rapidly when the “Fremantle Doctor” swept up the Swan River and up Hill St in the afternoon.

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      theRealUniverse

      What he says is perfectly true. You cant predict chaos.

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        Hanrahan

        It’s Difficult to Make Predictions, Especially About the Future
        Niels Bohr? Samuel Goldwyn? K. K. Steincke? Robert Storm Petersen? Yogi Berra? Mark Twain? Nostradamus? Anonymous?

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      Graeme#4

      Nobody should quote temps back to 1880 in Perth! Sure, they were measuring temps then, but they were NOT using a Stephenson screen, and they were measuring the temps in an entirely different location, Perth Gardens, now Spreme Court Gardens. Temp measurement in Perth should only start when Mt Eliza site started.

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    Pauly

    Thought I would share a couple of interesting links. First one shows that emissions and total concentration of actual air pollutants have dropped significantly in the US over the last 30 years and continue to decrease, even as the US economy has grown and population and energy use has increased:
    https://gispub.epa.gov/air/trendsreport/2019/#highlights

    The second shows the inextricable link between improved quality of life and increased energy consumption. Fossil fuels have been the primary source of that energy for the last 150 years, so as my attached link shows, increasing per capita GDP is driven by increasing per capita CO2 emissions.
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita-vs-gdp-per-capita-international-?yScale=log&fbclid=IwAR3-67be2zrAHO3FGf0H1DqPIPLy6uXZEcQn8rWcEYpx7l-GN4b6bSQui9Y

    I’m not seeing any climate emergency in either chart.

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    TdeF

    This week the UK courts decide to invalidate the decision of the the Prime Minister and the Queen and rule on politics. The Democrats have decided to impeach President Trump for the behaviour of former Vice President Biden and his son. Imagine if that had been Trump Jr? The UN is told everyone the world is ending and that Western democracies should give a hundred Billion $$ a year to everyone else, even if China is the biggest producer of CO2 and a young girl lectured world leaders on her Grimm fairy tale.

    The Globalist Elite are having the best week for years and I hope have made the very worst decisions. In the UK even fair people are angry at being run over by the elites, even Labor voters. In the US, President Trump is a hero to many, doing everything he promised even for blacks and latinos and workers while those who promised more and did nothing are trying to bring him down. And in the UN, the money is not appearing and the farcical scenes just show highly how out of touch the globalists are making fun of a young emotional girl. Climate Change is nonsense.

    So all three Fairy Tales are ending, that the EU is a good idea, that the Democrats are caring for blacks and latinos and workers and that China is a struggling developing country and a world victim. Oh, and that humans have 100 genders and you can just make one up, which makes just about everything impossible. What happened to Rational Science is one question. What just happened this week is another? And Australia failed to lose the Ashes.

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      Ross

      TdeF

      The Supreme Court said Boris acted unlawfully. Do you know what law he broke? I have looked around the news today and have not found anything to give me an answer. I have seen comment that says the SC basically “made up” a law/rule. I do not know if that is true but if it is the UK is going down a slippery slope.

      If Boris survives and hopefully wins the election that must happen, then it appears there has to be the removal of some crazy laws that have allowed the current mess to occur.

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        beowulf

        If you’re of a legal disposition here is the judgement.

        https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2019-0192-judgment.pdf

        Of special note is paragraph 15 referring to Boris’s advice to the Queen:

        “We do not know what conversation passed between them when he gave her that advice. We do not know what conversation, if any, passed between the assembled Privy Counsellors before or after the meeting. We do not know what the Queen was told and cannot draw any conclusions about it.”

        Then in paragraphs 17 to 20 are just three documents that the judges presume led up to that unknown advice. These and the minutes of a later Cabinet meeting are all laid out there. If you can find anything wrong then please tell the Lords Justice, because they need anything they can scrape together to validate their biased decision.

        Yet they find the advice to the Queen was unlawful, based apparently on the established legal principle that if a cat somewhere has kittens, then parliament was not lawfully prorogued. The judges then say:

        “It follows that Parliament has not been prorogued and that this court should make declarations to that effect.”

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        TdeF

        Not really. The Supreme Court is quite new, a 2005 creation of Tony Blair. It is looking to define its own role and this was just too good to resist.

        The judges have decided they can take on the Executive and make rulings binding the Prime Minister and his cabinet and even the Queen.
        The problem is that they have entered politics and they are not elected, so you have judges writing their own laws and rules and no one elected is writing them.

        Of course they all wanted to have a say on BREXIT while trying to be very clear it was not about BREXIT when everyone knows it is only about stopping BREXIT. After all the EU is exactly the same, unelected foreign officials writing 60% of the laws of England. Who needs democracy when you can have rule by the privileged, just as in France under Macron? It is outrageous, but a product of Labor’s fiddling with the courts. The separation of the courts and the parliament has been broken by this.

        What is interesting is whether Boris will take them on and prorogue again. Then someone has to decide who is in charge. Putting the Speaker of the House in charge of the Parliament and thus the country is ridiculous. An election is needed but they do not want one while they have power, because they’d lose.

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          Sceptical Sam

          Like Sir John Kerr, AK, GCMG, GCVO, QC, Governor-General of Australia (30 August 1973–1 July 1974), Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms, needs to call an election.

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            beowulf

            She can’t. Fixed Term Parliaments Act. See below.

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              Sceptical Sam

              Well, here’s a perspective;

              The seismic re-writing of an un-written constitution by 11 unelected unremovable justices over the prorogation of parliament effectively abolishes the Royal Prerogative exercised by British Prime Ministers for centuries. It begins the unravelling of the notion that the PM and the Government represent the “Queen-in-Parliament” and on matters in which parliament itself does not preclude them, can exercise executive authority. From now on, many, maybe most things, will be ultimately decided not in parliament by elected MPs but in courts by unelected judges. Judicial Review just went nuclear.

              and:

              It is true that the prime minister set out to frustrate the ability of the parliament to “stymie” him. But it is also true that the parliament itself has set out to frustrate the decision of the British people to leave the EU. And not for a week but for three long years.

              https://www.rt.com/op-ed/469574-boris-johnson-supreme-court-brexit/

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          Ross

          Thanks TdeF and beowulf.
          As indicated above I do not have a legal background or training. But even for me, after reading the judgement, it is clear they were making up rules to suit their own agenda.

          When all the dust is settled and hopefully the Conservatives and The Brexit Party coalition ( Boris will have absolutely no option if he wants to survive) are the new Government there is obviously going to have to be some radical house cleaning to be done.

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          TdeF

          Or more simply, it’s illegal because they said so.

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        OriginalSteve

        The US appear to have activist judges…wondering if the UK have any with Remainer sympathies?

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          beowulf

          You should be wondering if the UK has any judges without Remainer sympathies. Like TdeF says, the Supreme Court was a creation of Blair. It is packed with lefty Blairite judges. They cut their annual holidays short because their Remainer mate Gina Miller whistled them up for her 2 latest court cases.

          It was also Blair who brought in fixed term parliaments, which is why Boris can’t just call an election to resolve the Brexit impasse. That was due to be repealed when May first took over, but she was too busy sabotaging Brexit to bother.

          It was also Blair that removed the power of the Queen to dismiss parliament.

          It is also Blair who has been advising the EU how to defeat Brexit. It all gets back to Blair. When he wasn’t starting wars in the middle east with fake reports, he was busy laying traps for democracy at home and making himself rich in the process.

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            Ross

            Miller gets her case on the fast track. Meanwhile Robin Tilbrook has his case delayed and delayed.

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            Greg in NZ

            Blair? Blare? B’liar?

            Is that the same bloody liar our their Jacinda worked for as a senior policy adviser during the Noughties (when she was just out of her teens) before moving forward to the Home Office to help review policing in England and Wales? Shortly thereafter, she was President of the International Union of Socialist Youth, which saw her travel to China, Algeria, Jordan and Israel. Good work, Comrade Cinders!

            This week’s “perfectly productive, warm, solid bi-lateral” 25 minutes she had with Donald Trump (at the Intercontinental Hotel in NY) climaxed with this official White House photograph released to proles and media alike:

            https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/09/caption_contest-78.html (brief selection of winning captions below)

            DT: Look what New Zealand sent me – a life-sized Cindy doll.
            JA: So today, I tried to look more orange than Orange Man. But he beat me again!
            DT: Can’t see Melania getting worked up over this one!
            JA: That didn’t take long.
            DT: Luckily there were some flowers left over from ScoMo’s state dinner – she didn’t notice we haven’t even changed the flags.

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    robert rosicka

    Kerry O’Brien on Q and A wants all media to ban any mention of anti globull warming narrative .
    The science is in and anyone with a view to the contrary should be censored .

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      Greg Cavanagh

      It’s an interesting exercise to consider what would happen if all contrary voice was silenced.

      What happens next?
      Would they implement their utopia, or flummox about with the usual skills they’ve been displaying.
      And if they did, would any of them be happy with the temperature or climate.
      Would they expend their energies on more productive ventures?
      Would they all walk to work, eat grass and love their children?

      It’d be fun to see a town actually implement their utopia so we can gaze in wonder at all the happy citizens.

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        OriginalSteve

        What the climate numpties havent realized yet, is that they have stuck a noose around thier own necks with sll the scare campaigns, and once the global cooling starts you get going, the slack in the rope will rapidly run out….snap…..!

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          OriginalSteve

          It pains me to have to point this out, but the rope mentioned in my post above is a figurative one, not a literal one….

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      Serp

      It’s all of a piece with the Gillard and Conroy drive for internet censorship and another reason to be grateful for Labor not having been elected federally as Kerry speaks for that mob.

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      AndyG55

      “wants all media to ban any mention of anti globull warming narrative “

      The ABC is already doing that. Totally against their charter.. ie ILLEGALLY. !!

      Kerry has no say on what other media does.

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    peter

    The WMO have reported at the UN summit that for the last 5 years, sea levels have been rising by 5mm/year. What? Really? Recent years the evidence has been that rises have been 1-3mm per year. When did it jump to 5mm/year? And where did the WMO get their info? Does anyone know?

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      robert rosicka

      2.84mm average since Lincoln was president.

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      AndyG55

      Its actually been dropping in the tide gauges the last couple of years

      The deceivers are probably using some El Nino affected satellite data.. just for the SCARE !!

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      theRealUniverse

      I suspect that is another lot of faked data. Axis-Morner said that it is about 1mm only in some places. It varies due to geologic effects. The only small rise is from the post glaciation melt ~12000 ybp.

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      tom0mason

      peter,
      It depends when you start the data from, and if you measure via satellite or high quality tide gauge observations …
      From https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/02/kriged-sea-level-rise/

      tide gauge observations
      [from 1900 to present]The overall linear trend is 2.3 [2.2 to 2.4] mm/yr.
      The trend from 1960 onward is 2.5 [2.4 to 2.6] mm/yr.
      The linear trend since 1993 is 2.5 [2.3 to 2.7] mm/yr.
      This is significantly less than the 3.3 mm/yr trend estimated by satellite altimetry data. No significant acceleration or deceleration was found in either regression.

      The 20th century SLR was about 23 cm. The predicted 21st century SLR is 22 cm and 26 cm using the 1900 and 1960 onward quadratic regressions respectively.

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      James Murphy

      It depends if you’re talking local relative sea level or eustatic sea level change.

      Good luck trying to find a Thunberg warrior worrier who knows the difference.

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      Pauly

      That result is from the NASA sea level site:
      https://sealevel.nasa.gov/

      Obviously satellite based results.

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      Sceptical Sam

      Well, it certainly wasn’t from “Pinch-gut” island, Port Jackson.

      https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_global_station.shtml?stnid=680-140

      0.65 millimeters/year with a 95% confidence interval of +/- 0.10 mm/yr based on monthly mean sea level data from 1886 to 2010.

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    peter

    The WMO have reported at the UN summit that for the last 5 years, sea levels have been rising by 5mm/year. What? Really? Recent years the evidence has been that rises have been 1-3mm per year. When did it jump to 5mm/year? And where did the WMO get their info? Does anyone know?

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    robert rosicka

    Joe Biden bragging about being corrupt and what he did to get the prosecutor that was investigating his son sacked .

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA–dj2-CY

    Pelosi will never win an impeachment on Trump over this but maybe her aim is to get rid of Biden from the race to the Whitehouse .

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    el gordo

    Our cousins across the gap are experiencing a protracted cold air outbreak (CAO) and it appears to be a global cooling signal.

    ‘Associated land-based temperature and precipitation anomalies suggest both colder and wetter than normal conditions were a pervasive component of the base climate state across New Zealand during the LIA, as were colder than normal Tasman Sea surface temperatures.’

    Lorrey et al 2013

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      James Murphy

      We just need someone to shout “How dare you” at this cold air, and it will behave.

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        el gordo

        I’m forecasting a cool wet summer for the Kiwis.

        http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDY65100.pdf

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        Grimm Thunderberg

        How dare you!

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          OriginalSteve

          We could rate Warmist indignation in units of milli-Thurnbergs ( mTh) ….

          The recemt UN performance was probably 850 mTh….

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        Greg in NZ

        James, I shouted something far, far worse than that at the wind today, and y’know what? I couldn’t even hear myself! Dunno wtf I was saying – similar to that OC/DC child actress in NY the other day. Meanwhile:

        “Turoa will be closed today due to high winds and blizzard conditions which are forecast to continue and increase… Road CLOSED”.

        https://www.metservice.com/skifields/turoa

        Snow and gales and freezing and more snow through to next week, dropping to -10˚C overnight with -20˚C wind chill. “It’s a return to Winter up here” with a 2.75 metre snow base, another 30 cm today, 30 tomorrow, more the day after – perfect for Skool Holydaze next week: schoolies will be able to see Göebbels Vermink / Crimate Cringe in action for themselves.

        N.B. A surfing buddy who lives on the South Coast of the South Island – Foveaux Strait – texted tonight there was snow to sea level… on the beach! Ah yes, Springtime in NZ. Could be why I live up north…

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      tom0mason

      el gordo,

      But, but , but …

      Cold snaps are just weather, it’s heatwaves that are indicators of the climate trend.

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      Geoffrey Williams

      Interesting, lets just wait and see what Jacinda makes of that . . .
      Geoff

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        toorightmate

        Geoffrey,
        I am sure that Jacinda will get her teeth into it.

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          Greg in NZ

          Stop horsing around, trm, Cindy’s conversating non-stop with very important people about ‘tackling’ this crisis, imaginary tho’ it obviously is. Lest we remember, she’s a Bachelorette of PR Comms specialising in politricks. Whoah there Nelly!

          tom0mason’s right, it’s only weather! Under WEATHER – as opposed to CCCrap – More cold spells before the country warms up

          https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/399657/more-cold-spells-before-the-country-warms-up

          “A rare atmospheric event played a part in last night’s strong gusts, rain and snow in some parts of the country, and will bring more cold spells. The Sudden Stratospheric Warming started a month ago in the atmosphere, about 30 kilometres above Antarctica”. Sounds sciency huh?

          “(Niwa), said the country had observed colder than usual temperatures… ‘that tells us that there has been an unusual chill in the air‘… Mr Noll said cooler than average ocean temperatures also played a role… there will be colder temperatures, lots and rain and snow [sic] for the South Island and possibly the central North Island next week“.

          Amazingk! Warmink can do anythink you want it to! Scuttled Séance at its 97% best (or in the real world, worst).

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            Greg in NZ

            ™Sudden Warmink™ now causes frigid blizzards with snow to (near) sea level south of Christchurch:

            https://www.metservice.com/skifields/mt-hutt

            Of the 3 webcams for Mt Hutt, click the left one, appropriately titled ‘Virgin Mile’, and scroll back to the earliest shot available (for me now it’s 8.09 am). The cam overlooks Hutt’s main basin and all the way across the snow-covered Canterbury Plains to the South Pacific Ocean. By 10 am the low-lying snow on the Plains finally thins as some big bright yellow warm ball of light rises higher and higher in the sky.

            Turoa, on Mt Ruapehu in the North Island, is still CLOSED due to BLIZZARDS today (I’m not shouting, that’s how MetService and/or Turoa write this stuff). No wonder it’s freezing: we’ve got a frigid freight-train of a jet stream aiming straight at us from Antarctica. Hey, that’s ™warmink™ for ya!

            http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_sohem_00.gif

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    dinn,rob

    remember when your life did not come in over 1 cent on the street? well,–
    https://balance10.blogspot.com/2019/09/secret-extradition-to-china-of-uighur.html?

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    OriginalSteve

    Meanwhile in la la land……stopping the use of gas for anything.

    Are the Elite now rapidly upping the ante – shifting people into an “energy ghetto” … easy to round up and control?

    Naughty person….not saluting Glorious Leader …… no power for you…..*click* and let global cooling finish them off……

    I get very uneasy thinking that not only do people only have once choice, but now that choice is unreliable and easy to turn off.

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6388167/act-to-phase-out-gas-under-governments-zero-emissions-plan/

    “”Phasing out gas, accelerating the uptake of electric vehicles and planting tens of thousands of new trees are at the centre of the ACT government’s new plan to tackle climate change.

    “Territory directorates would also be subject to an internal “carbon tax”, under the Barr government’s strategy to help the ACT reach a target of net zero emissions by 2045.

    “The strategy, released on Monday, includes dozens of measures covering transport, housing, waste management and urban planning.

    “The government has allocated $17 million towards the strategy, although no single, headline figure has been outlined for the implementation of the whole plan.

    “Instead, the “social cost of carbon” and climate change adaptation will have to be factored into all future budget measures and policy decisions.

    “As the territory closes in on its target of sourcing 100 per cent renewable electricity by 2020, the government has turned its attention to driving “behavioural change” among Canberrans as it attempts to phase out its two largest sources of emissions – transport and gas usage.

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      theRealUniverse

      “”Phasing out gas, accelerating the uptake of electric vehicles and planting tens of thousands of new trees are at the centre of the ACT government’s new plan to tackle climate change.

      “Territory directorates would also be subject to an internal “carbon tax”, under the Barr government’s strategy to help the ACT reach a target of net zero emissions by 2045.

      Just more total economic suicide. Planting trees will do nothing, zero emissions are physically impossible, all renewables is physically and economically impossible.

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        OriginalSteve

        The ACT govt also apparently painted roundabouts in rainbow colours in honour of the infamous SSM referendum.

        They also built a taxpayer funded solar farm that is pure virtue signalling and AFAIK it never benefitted any ACT resident by lowering thier power bills….

        Back in the 1980s that ACT was run by a small Federal govt dept. Now it has an expensive and marginal govt that consists of rusted on labor supporters and climate change cheer squad team members, that also built a $1,000,000,000 tram line that services only a predominately labor voting area……..

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      Serp

      Let’s see how well they make their milestones on this demented project; necessarily it will be quietly dropped down the memory hole over the next few years.

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        yarpos

        They control the milestones, they control the creative accounting, they control the reporting. It will be a raging success.

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      Bobl

      They are also legalising the possession of marijuana guaranteeing even more doped up public servants in the nation’s capital, they must all be drug tested at work and any federal public servant found under the influence sacked.
      The feds must overturn these stupid local laws (which they CAN do). The ACT self governance experiment has failed as it was always going to, what did they expect handing governance of the territory to a population full of useless SJW obsessed public servants. I’d be very surprised if the ACT government could even run a public hospital,

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    pat

    no let-up:

    25 Sept: Daily Mail: Major UN report on the state of the world’s oceans gets last-minute approval after Saudi Arabia delayed its release in protest over plans to slash greenhouse gases
    •Saudi officials took issue with another report which was cited in this study
    •The country, the world’s biggest oil producer, finally gave its approval last night
    •Scientists tweeted saying they were ‘delighted’ and ’emotional’ it succeeded
    •The report will warn that low-lying countries and coral are at risk
    •And that melting permafrost will release huge amounts of greenhouse gases
    By Sam Blanchard
    The special report by the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change (IPCC) was finalised in an all-night debate yesterday.
    Saudi Arabia had been obstructing the process by taking issue with the inclusion of a report which predicted the effects of a 1.5°C (34.7°F) average global temperature rise…

    ‘So, after 27 hours of continuous work overnight, we got #SROCC approved by Governments! Elation, relief, exhaustion, emotion. Hard to describe. I just hope this bloody thing does some good for the world,’ tweeted Michael Meredith, one of the report’s authors.

    Officials from 195 countries had to sift through and approve every line of a 30-page executive summary of the report, which is set to be published tomorrow.

    The study will warn that climate change is going to trigger huge increases in flooding damage, melting ice caps and glaciers, and coral-killing ocean heatwaves.
    A leaked early draft of the report suggested that, if global temperatures rise by an average of 2°C (35.6°F), 280million people could be displaced by rising sea levels.
    And melting permafrost – permanently frozen earth – will release huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, creating a cycle of warming…

    ***AFP reported that the sentence to which the Saudis objected – ‘This assessment reinforces findings in IPCC Special Report on 1.5 C’ – was removed from the final draft…
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7498611/Major-climate-change-report-gets-approval-Saudi-objections.html

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      yarpos

      “‘So, after 27 hours of continuous work overnight, we got #SROCC approved by Governments!”

      So the usual alarmist / “progressive” facility with numbers and spin I see

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    Yonniestone

    I’m at home sick at the moment, Mrs Yonnie came down with a flu over the weekend and now I’ve got it, We found out its Influenza A.

    I came down with Influenza B two winters ago and we’re now considering getting a flu shot, we’ve never had it but the viruses seem to hang around longer now.

    My question is to those out there with experience concerning the flu shot, are they all the same? , are they effective on Influenza’s?, side effects etc….

    Thanks in advance.

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      beowulf

      I’ve been getting it for some years. No side effects at all for me, although others have developed flu-like symptoms. The modern vaccines are hypo-allergenic, so I was assured when I asked. No horse serum, not even egg protein apparently.

      I think the current vaccine contains about 6 strains which they vary from year to year, depending upon what is trending, so you can still come down with some other strain. I’ve not even had a cold for the last few years, but that’s probably coincidental.

      It’s a bit late in the season to bother with it now. I normally get mine in April.

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      OriginalSteve

      Ive found peoples stress levels seem to be the best predictor of illness.

      The flu is a whole bunch of constantly mutating viruses…basically a pointless exercise.

      Also if youre on warfarin, it can be contraindicated for flu shots.

      Best defence IMHO is plenty of sunshine on skin ( vitamin D), low stress levels, lay off the grog and sugar ( negates vit C in your body ) and lay in 1000mg of vit C per day in slow release tablets….works for me. I think stress is the biggie though….depresses immune function…

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      TdeF

      It works really well. Better to get the neutered virus early than the real thing. Sometimes they miss one new strain but generally everyone is better off. The problem is that the culture can be behind the European flu season in which all these incubate and mutate and a new strain can appear for which there is no vaccine, as happened this year but three out of four is still good. Everyone in the group is innoculated against flu every year, for the last 20. Doctors do this too.

      Now if only there was an inoculation against this irrational climate religion. A bit late for Greta though.

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        They are already accepting the reality that prevention is not better than a cure, the virus keeps mutating and growing in strength. The aim is to find a way to alleviate the symptoms and keep the patient alive.

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        Kalm Keith

        I had two annual flue shots.

        After the second one I became ill and decided that was it and to rely on my natural immunity, whatever that is.

        I strongly believe in vaccination but I am suspicious of Big Pharma, especially after the SSRI business being spread like a big money spinner to save the world from depression and anxiety. It worries me that these flue shots come out annually. How long were they tested before general use?

        After declining the annual flue shot I asked my doctor what I could be in need of and we came up with Dip_whoop_tet. Painless, no after rx.

        Get vaccinated, but is annual flue real or mainly a money grab, not sure.
        A couple of Australian youngsters died in the past few years after vaccinations the might have been inappropriate.

        KK

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      Graeme No.3

      Yonnie:

      The flu vaccine varies from year to year as they try to protect against the most likely strains. I have been asked (not recently) about any allergies to egg products so think that may not apply anymore. They cannot protect against all types and what was stopped in April might have evolved into something you don’t want in Spring.
      I have been having flu vaccinations for nearly 20 years, except one year when I got the ‘flu (?) or at least one or other of the over 200 rhino type viruses, so have been down to the Doc early each year. No allergic reactions and no ‘flu, although a few colds. My 2 sisters also report success with the jab.

      Look out for the Thumberg type, overwhelming adverse reaction and nausea with hallucinations about seeing carbon dioxide. Only time will cure that one.

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      Since the early ’70s I’ve done what people now call alkalising. Not for digestion probs or anything like that. Just found it necessary for my body, blood, especially sleep. Haven’t always kept it up, but in recent years I have. It consists of absorbing lots of alfalfa, wheat or barley grass in the quickest and easiest way before bedtime. Lately that means popping up to ten capsules of a good quality Aussie blend of grasses. I don’t take other supplements or bother with “health” foods. Afalfa has been the mainstay, though at times when I’ve run out of powders I’ve resorted to eating an entire lettuce before bed (which works).

      I mention this because, while I have a single frustrating problem with fungal sinus, I don’t get infections as long as I’m grassed-up and the rest of the diet is interesting. After fifty years it’s obviously no fad with me, though “alkalising” has become a fad lately. I’m told this procedure is also good for matters arthritic, stones etc, but I wouldn’t know.

      I do pull remedies like petty spurge, olive leaf, mashed rosemary, comfrey, aloe, native sars etc from the yard, bush and paddock but I’ve found most people want a relationship with a professional outlet, so I don’t push my ideas. Even those who want something “natural” want it in the form of a prescribed product, even if it’s mostly filler.

      But I’ll go out on a limb here and say that everyone should at least try changing their blood chemistry by simple ingestion of grassy/leafy substances before taking the needle. (Also, while they’re needling me they might also insist I try statins and other substances suitable for “men my age”.)

      By the way…just what is cholesterol? (Don’t answer.)

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        beowulf

        Moso, I hope you’re not eating the Petty Spurge. You are aware the white sap is toxic and caustic? Used for burning off skin cancers.

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      Yonniestone

      Thanks for the replies guys, I’ll give it a shot next year, our stress levels have been very high and health has declined a lot also, we’ll take this as a warning.

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    Zane

    Here’s another gang who have hitched their wagon to the climate gravy train: Avaaz. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avaaz

    I will add them to my list of perps, from Maurice Strong to Al Gore to GE (who took over Enron’s wind business) to Big Green to Aloys Webben, the ” Green Baron “, owner of Germany’s largest private wind turbine company, with 30,000 installed worldwide. Not to mention the globalist apparatchiks of the UN. Sounds like Avaaz is running a sustained PR media blitz for all of the above. The amount of attention this climate thing is getting these days is unbelievable.

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      Greg in NZ

      The last 2 sentences:
      “In 2008, Canadian conservative minister John Baird labeled Avaaz a ‘shadowy foreign organization‘ tied to billionaire George Soros. Another Canadian, conservative media personality Ezra Levant, tried to make a link between Soros and Avaaz.org as an indirect supporter through MoveOn, but the article was later retracted as baseless and an apology was offered to Soros”.

      Also, in 2016: “Avaaz campaigned against Donald Trump with the slogan ‘Defeat Donald Trump’ [DDT?] and produced a software tool to simplify overseas voter registration”. Definitely $oro$ Inc.

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        Zane

        Good point. This Green movement is so sinister and so well funded and aggressive, it can’t just be a few dreadlocked vegan tree lovers behind it.

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          Greg in NZ

          An Aussie buddy who lives in Bali (runs a surf charter boat to Lombok – I’ve gotta get back there!) started sending me Avaaz links last year: ocean-based doco/vids about how ‘man has destroyed the oceans’. The solution? We must take ™action™! Always taking…

          They were slick promos, similar to Attenbo!!ocks’ cinematically filmed nature pogroms, beautiful to watch, then the mood-music came in and the hard-sell, sign up, send-your-money, take action bs. Nah, seen and heard it all before, mind-forkery of the snakiest kind / UN-kind. Yep, add them to your list of Crooks Internationale.

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        Graeme#4

        There is a link between our favourite girl Greta and Avaaz. Think the link is via the handler Lisa-Marie Neubauer – she is the young lady always standing behind Greta.

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    pat

    24 Sept: AFR: Solar investors choke on $1b hit from grid congestion
    by Angela Macdonald-Smith
    Renewable energy investors including Macquarie and BlackRock have banded together to push for changes in the way transmission losses on the country’s choked power grid are allocated after seeing about $1 billion wiped off the value of wind and solar assets across the sector in the past 2-3 years.
    The 20-strong group, which includes AGL Energy’s PARF renewable fund with QIC, is urging immediate modifications in the system to avoid derailing about 10 gigawatts of wind and solar generation projects that they have in the development pipeline.

    The concerted action comes as the group instigator, London-listed major John Laing Group, in August took a £66 million ($121 million) write-down on three Australian renewable energy projects (LINK) as unprecedented congestion on the power grid eroded plant profitability. It also froze future investment in the sector…READ ON
    https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/solar-investors-choke-on-1b-hit-from-grid-congestion-20190924-p52ub1

    24 Sept: EcoGeneration: Are clouds gathering over large-scale solar?
    Things only got worse as daytime prices in some states started to approach zero towards the end of winter. Then, in Queensland in early September solar plant owners caught a glimpse of hell as prices neared a floor of negative $1,000, when they have to pay to generate. Many of them chose to switch off.
    As a consequence of all this agony, investment in large-scale solar in Queensland has collapsed, says Green Energy Markets director analysis and advisory Tristan Edis. And it’s not over yet. “I think that is symptomatic of what we will see in other states,” he says…

    Batteries are still expensive and the outlook for electricity prices is so uncertain that it would take a very brave owner to invest in storage. “You might make some really good money for a period of time but then Snowy 2.0 comes in and destroys it,” Edis says…READ ALL
    https://www.ecogeneration.com.au/are-clouds-gathering-over-large-scale-solar/

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      RickWill

      No one could have predicted this; unless they did time run modelling rather than using capacity factors. It has taken all this time to realise the sunshine across the NEM occurs at the same time.

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        Rick,

        I seriously doubt if anyone at all has the first inkling as to what an Insolation Curve is.

        Capacity Factor (CF) is good as it gives you the average generated power, and even saying that, I also doubt if anyone could work out that CF for either Commercial solar plants or rooftop solar.

        I’ve found that when mentioning CF for either version of solar, the responses I get are that what I have said is just outright BS.

        No one believes CF can be as low as 12%, and that’s the average, not worst case scenario.

        Show an Insolation Curve even for the height of Summer, and on a clear and overcast free day, and point out that the total at maximum power generation never even gets close to Nameplate and again, the response is BS.

        Tony.

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      Graeme No.3

      Splendid news! And so unexpected /sarc

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        Kalm Keith

        Sounds like ” the Market ” has been modified enough to put responsibility where it truly belongs for dealing with the problems of renewables.

        These had previously been hidden in the system by deliberate political activity which had both residential and industrial consumers paying for the structural changes in poles and wires: gold plating.

        Political electricity was always designed to rip us off and to make it appear that all was well the pollies have closed down industry rather than build properly engineered electricity generation plant.

        Sounds like someone has made a start on dismantling this disgusting imposition on the community and not before time.

        KK

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      Kalm Keith

      “Renewable energy investors including Macquarie and BlackRock have banded together to push for changes in the way transmission losses”.

      Good news, they’re feeling the pinch at last.

      Political electricity that’s designed for “profit” rather than function has damaged Australia beyond imagination.

      We aren’t out of the woods yet with industry gone and ScoMo’s crew looking at a reserve bank decision to bring interest rates down even further. This is a sad reflection on what politicians have done to Australia in terms of building a sound, growing economy.

      But for the moment we still have mining.

      KK

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      Bobl

      Astounding, let me translate

      Renewable energy investors including Macquarie and BlackRock have banded together to have AEMO declare that the laws of physics that govern electrical transmission do not apply to their assets.

      The investors have asked that the most central equations in electrical engineering, Ohms Law V=IR and P=VI magically do not apply to pixie dust energy produced by renewable energy assets.

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    pat

    25 Sept: Bloomberg: China’s Tesla Rival NIO Plunges 26% on Escalating Losses
    by Bloomberg News
    Carmaker plans to cut more than 2,000 jobs by end of September.
    Shares of Chinese electric-vehicle makers and suppliers fell after a worse-than-expected quarterly loss for NIO Inc., the country’s answer to Tesla Inc., exacerbated concerns that a bubble in the world’s largest EV market may be bursting…
    The dire situation has prompted NIO, which is backed by technology giant Tencent Holdings Ltd., to raise $200 million from founder William Li and a Tencent affiliate, and to plan the spin off some businesses. The company’s U.S.-listed shares are down more than 80% from their peak following last year’s IPO…

    “People are wondering whether the company can continue to survive,” said Jason Chen, an analyst from Blue Lotus Capital Advisors. Bernstein analyst Robin Zhu struck a similar tone with a report titled “Tick Tock, Tick Tock,” estimating that NIO has only a few weeks of liquidity left.
    The issues specific to Shanghai-based NIO include cost overruns and major recalls…

    More broadly, the automaker’s struggles lend credence to mounting concerns that China’s state-sponsored support of the industry inflated a bubble that’s poised to pop. The nation’s sales of EVs and “new-energy” vehicles fell for a second straight month in August as the government scaled back subsidies. China accounts for half of the world’s EV sales…READ ON
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-24/china-s-nio-posts-463-million-loss-and-says-will-cut-staff?srnd=hyperdrive

    25 Sept: Bloomberg: Electric Car Owners May Not Love Solar Panels So Much After All
    By Nic Querolo
    Overlap of EVs, solar customers may be overstated: BNEF report
    Original estimates may have relied too heavily on enthusiasts
    While conventional wisdom has long held that EV drivers prefer to charge cars with clean energy, surveys that fed that belief targeted early adopters of the technologies who don’t necessarily represent the broadening demographic of today’s buyers, according to a report Tuesday from BloombergNEF…

    Musk touted the overlap between solar panels and electric vehicles when Tesla Inc. bought rooftop installer SolarCity Corp. in 2016 for $2.6 billion. The solar business, however, has struggled since…
    Tesla wasn’t alone in pursuing symbiosis between panels and EVs…READ ON
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-24/electric-car-owners-may-not-love-solar-panels-so-much-after-all

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    Peter Fitzroy

    First Trump and now Boris, oh my gawd, what happen to stable responsible conservative rule?

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      OriginalSteve

      Ask the left – who cant handle useful and productive people that create wealth – who keep wanting to tear down decent govt.

      The Left are like a bunch of insane jackals…..

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        Peter Fitzroy

        Boris lied to his Queen, Trump did too. How did the left have anything to do with that?

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          Graeme No.3

          Now, now Peter, the USA is a Republic and hasn’t got a Queen, even Oprah.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            Ok, I’m sorry, I forget I have to use kindergarten words wth you. /not sorry

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              Graeme No.3

              I think plain English would work, rather than you trying to appear clever.

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                AndyG55

                “trying to appear clever”

                Poor PF.. Failed again

                He doesn’t ever appear even the slightest bit clever,

                … except to himself, of course.

                His statement at 17.1.1 was his usual garbled and mangled nonsense.

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            Serp

            When Trump was fantasising about running for President in 1999 Oprah was facetiously suggested as a possible running mate.

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          AndyG55

          No evidence Boris lied to the queen.

          Yes, he couldn’t get a leftist court to agree with the prorogation, a pity.

          Leftist “remainer” lawyers “implied” he had told the Queen a lie.. ie THEY MADE IT UP.

          And PF, being a gullible twerp, swallowed the LIE.

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      AndyG55

      If the left would actually ACCEPT DEMOCRACY, there wouldn’t be a problem.

      TRUMP WAS ELECTED

      REFERENDUM SAID BREXIT.

      What don’t you understand, PF !!!

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      el gordo

      Boris wants to build a bridge from Scotland and Northern Ireland.

      Its a pork barrel in the run up to a snap election, which Farage will surely win.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        Still not seeing the Left’s hand in any of this.

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          ivan

          Then you are not looking! It is clear to those of us that live over here that the left has been planing this ever since they lost the referendum.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            Damned clever these lefties, forcing Boris to lie to his monarch. I mean we expect that from Trump, and he has managed to take it to 11.

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              AndyG55

              No evidence he lied.

              That is FAKE NEWS,

              …swallow hard, gullible PF.

              Trump really has you running around like a headless chook, doesn’t he PF, TDS?

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              OriginalSteve

              Actually the thing about Trump is he manages to constantly outwit his Lefty opponents…which is why they constantly lose it.

              Maybe they should scream at the sky?

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          el gordo

          Fitz is correct, its no longer left and right.

          ‘Mr Johnson is now seen to have misled the Queen in his attempt to deliver Brexit. Mr Farage makes it clear that he would never have done that, giving him another advantage in the eyes of royalist Brexit voters. If a general election is called before Christmas, the Lib Dems and Labour could split Remain voters but the Brexit Party could do serious damage to the Tories.’

          The Oz

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      yarpos

      seems to be happening unless your level of understanding is only at Guardian headline level

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      Peter Fitzroy

      And our Scomo is besties with both of them, what a great judge of character he is!

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        AndyG55

        Boris is a learner, made a mistake.

        Trump is a WINNER.. Get over it!

        Your “bestie” would be Shorten or di Natalie, or maybe Hansen-Young..

        What does that say about you, PF !! LOSER.

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    OriginalSteve

    Been having a ball with my electric bike.

    Big bonus is avoiding local govt parking costs….I already pay too much tax, why give them more?

    PC is like ebola….contagious and destroys its host….attacks indiscriminatly. The only difference is when it attacks a govt, they become zombie Typhoid Marys that keeps infecting people without itself dying….

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    Travis T. Jones

    When you realise the ANZ Bank is a moral free zone that needed a royal commission, it all makes sense …

    “Commissioner Hayne’s final report made 76 recommendations and 24 referrals for potentially criminal conduct.”

    https://www.charteredaccountantsanz.com/news-and-analysis/news/banking-royal-commission-final-report-summary

    ANZ joins RE100 and commits to source 100% renewables by 2025

    https://reneweconomy.com.au/anz-joins-re100-and-commits-to-source-100-renewables-by-2025/

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    pat

    for those who want to understand the FakeNews/Dems Trump impeachment story, best to begin with the reporter who first revealed Ukraine’s involvement in the 2016 US Presidential elections. ignore if u r not interested:

    23 Sept: The Hill: John Solomon: Let’s get real: Democrats were first to enlist Ukraine in US elections
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/462658-lets-get-real-democrats-were-first-to-enlist-ukraine-in-us-elections

    20 Sept: The Hill: Missing piece to the Ukraine puzzle: State Department’s overture to Rudy Giuliani
    By John Solomon
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/462422-missing-piece-to-the-ukraine-puzzle-state-departments-overture-to-rudy

    16 May: The Hill: John Solomon: Ukrainian who meddled against Trump in 2016 is now under Russia-corruption cloud
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/444167-ukrainian-who-meddled-against-trump-in-2016-is-now-under-russia

    2 Apr: The Hill: John Solomon: Ukraine continues to fight corruption — don’t believe the smear
    Based on Lutsenko’s interview, Solomon suggests that AntAC, which he calls a Soros group, somehow colluded with former President Barack Obama, George Soros, the U.S. Embassy and the FBI to allegedly intervene in the 2016 U.S. presidential election…
    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/436954-ukraine-continues-to-fight-corruption-dont-believe-the-smear

    20 Mar: The Hill: John Solomon: As Russia collusion fades, Ukrainian plot to help Clinton emerges
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435029-as-russia-collusion-fades-ukrainian-plot-to-help-clinton-emerges

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      pat

      short but sweet:

      VIDEO: 1min59sec: 23 Sept: Real Clear Politics: Giuliani: George Soros “Is Involved” With Hunter Biden/Ukraine Corruption Scandal
      by Tim Hains
      The president’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, alleged Monday on FBN’s “Mornings With Maria” that there is a connection between the Hunter Biden/Ukraine corruption allegations and George Soros.
      “There’s an FBI agent involved. The FBI agent who is investigating the allegations about dirt on the Trump campaign, she’s now working for George Soros,”
      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/23/giuliani_george_soros_is_involved_with_hunter_bidenukraine_corruption_scandal.html

      Youtube: 39min22sec: Fox: Sean Hannity 24 Sept 2019
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdsP2BaTHhU

      on Laura Ingraham’s show, Rudy Giuliani – from 23min20sec to 33min – has to explain to Laura how the story began with John Solomon/Ukraine interference in 2016 presidential election; it illustrates how even Laura finds it hard to keep on top of this complex story.
      the fact much of the FakeNewsMSM has refused to cover most of the story – because some of them colluded with the Deep State/Dems to try to prevent Trump becoming President & later, continued to try to overthrow him – makes it difficult for people to digest. shame on the media. Giuliani is on other segments as well:

      Youtube: 46min53sec: Laura Ingraham 24 Sept 2019
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoIn7hdFQLc

      Youtube: 43min31sec: Fox: Tucker Carlson 24 Sept 2019
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veySgYrRX1s

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        pat

        finally, the so-called whistleblower connections:

        24 Sept: Washington Examiner: Ukraine whistleblower’s lawyers work for group that offers to pay officials who leak against Trump
        by Steven Nelson
        The anonymous U.S. intelligence official accusing President Trump of improperly pressuring Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is represented by two lawyers who run a group that offers financial help to fired whistleblowers.
        Whistleblower Aid was launched in September 2017 — eight months after Trump’s inauguration — with an advertising blitz that involved mobile billboards being driven close to the White House, Congress, outside the Pentagon, and around the headquarters of the CIA and National Security Agency.

        Whistleblower Aid was founded by veteran national security defense attorney Mark Zaid and John Tye, a whistleblower who worked to promote internet freedom at the State Department before warning of mass surveillance during the Obama administration. Andrew Bakaj, a former CIA officer who is associated with Zaid’s firm, is also a lawyer for Whistleblower Aid.
        Zaid and Bakaj represent the official who claimed whistleblower status in raising the case of the Ukraine call…
        Whistleblower Aid launched with a $1.5 million donation from Tye…

        Asked in 2017 about the timing of the group’s launch, Tye said, “We want to advise people what to do, whether it’s going to Congress, or an inspector general or Robert Mueller,” referring to the special counsel handling the Russia investigation.
        He added, “This is not a partisan effort. At the same time, yes, the rule of law starts with the office of the president. Like many other people, we are definitely concerned about things that are happening in the administration. The decision to fire [FBI Director] James Comey. The lack of transparency. A lot of people have questions about whether this administration respects the rule of law.”…

        An article in the Chronicle of Philanthropy reported a recent uptick in informants for the group, which represented ***Simon Edelman, an Energy Department whistleblower who says he was fired after leaking to the press…
        https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/ukraine-whistleblowers-lawyers-work-for-group-that-offers-to-pay-officials-who-leak-against-trump?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

        amusingly, the Simon Edelman stuff involved COAL:

        He Leaked a Photo of Rick Perry Hugging a Coal Executive
        NYT – 17 Jan 2018
        As a photographer for the Department of Energy, ***Simon Edelman regularly attended meetings with Secretary Rick Perry and snapped pictures…

        Rick Perry hugged a coal baron. This photographer got the picture. Then he was placed on leave.
        WaPo – 17 Jan 2018

        5 Apr 2018: Archive: New Yorker: A Whistle-Blower Alleges Corruption in Rick Perry’s Department of Energy
        By Carolyn Kormann
        In late November, not long before FERC was scheduled to vote on Perry’s plan, ***Edelman shared his photos of the March meeting with reporters from the progressive magazine In These Times and, later, the Washington Post. The photographs were published on December 6th. The next day, Edelman was placed on administrative leave…

        In the complaint, Edelman and his attorneys — John Tye, of the nonprofit law firm ***Whistleblower Aid, and Michael Ronickher, of the firm Constantine Cannon—argue that Edelman’s decision to circulate the photographs was based on his “reasonable belief that he was reporting evidence of criminal corruption, obstruction of justice, and ethics violations by officials within the Department of Energy,” including Perry…

        Edelman began working at the Energy Department in 2015, under Secretary Ernest Moniz (former United States Secretary of Energy, serving under U.S. President Barack Obama from May 2013 to January 2017), a nuclear physicist and professor emeritus at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. After the Trump Administration took over, he told me, he noticed troubling changes to the agency’s culture. “Secretary Moniz wasn’t into social media,” Edelman said. “He left it to the public-affairs office to do what we wanted.” With Perry, Edelman went on, “it was more about his vanity. He loves Instagram.”…
        https://web.archive.org/web/20190808200311/https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/a-whistle-blower-alleges-corruption-in-rick-perrys-department-of-energy

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      pat

      forgot to post this one:

      25 Apr: The Hill: House engaged Ukraine to give Russia collusion narrative an early boost
      By John Solomon
      As Donald Trump began his meteoric rise to the presidency, the Obama White House summoned Ukrainian authorities to Washington to coordinate ongoing anti-corruption efforts inside Russia’s most critical neighbor…
      The agenda suggested the purpose was training and coordination. But Ukrainian participants said it didn’t take long — during the meetings and afterward — to realize the Americans’ objectives included two politically hot investigations: one that touched Vice President Joe Biden’s family and one that involved a lobbying firm linked closely to then-candidate Trump…

      Now we have more concrete evidence that the larger Ukrainian government also was being pressed by the Obama administration to help build the Russia collusion narrative. And that onion is only beginning to be peeled.
      But what is already confirmed by Ukrainians looks a lot more like assertive collusion with a foreign power than anything detailed in the Mueller report.
      https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/440730-how-the-obama-white-house-engaged-ukraine-to-give-russia-collusion

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        pat

        and this:

        2 May: The Hill: John Solomon: Ukrainian Embassy confirms DNC contractor solicited Trump dirt in 2016
        In its most detailed account yet, the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington says a Democratic National Committee (DNC) insider during the 2016 election solicited dirt on Donald Trump’s campaign chairman and even tried to enlist the country’s president to help.
        In written answers to questions, Ambassador Valeriy Chaly’s office says DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa sought information from the Ukrainian government on Paul Manafort’s dealings inside the country in hopes of forcing the issue before Congress…
        https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/441892-ukrainian-embassy-confirms-dnc-contractor-solicited-trump-dirt-in-2016

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    pat

    24 Sept: The Federalist: Attorney For Anti-Trump ‘Whistleblower’ Worked For Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer
    by Tristan Justice
    Andrew Bakaj, now a managing partner at the Compass Rose Legal Group, interned for Schumer in the spring of 2001 and for Clinton in the fall of the same year, according to Bakaj’s LinkedIn page. More recently, Bakaj has worked as an official in the CIA and Pentagon and specializes in whistleblower and security clearances in his legal practice…
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/attorney-for-anti-trump-whistleblower-worked-for-hillary-clinton-chuck-schumer/

    24 Sept: Washingtonian: Meet the Attorneys Representing the Whistleblower Who Helped Launch the Impeachment Inquiry
    by Marisa M. Kashino
    Bakaj also served at the State Department, and worked for Democratic senators Daniel Moynihan, Charles Schumer, and Hillary Clinton earlier in his career…
    Earlier today, House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff said the whistleblower would like to testify before his committee…
    https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/09/24/meet-the-attorneys-representing-the-whistleblower-who-helped-launch-the-impeachment-inquiry/

    Whistleblower Aid only formed in Sept 2017, yet here is prog left TalkingPoints reporting on them just weeks later:

    12 Nov 2017: TallkingPoints: Lawmakers Question Whether Key CIA Nominee Misled Congress
    By DEB RIECHMANN
    Two former CIA employees are accusing the Trump administration’s choice for CIA chief watchdog of being less than candid when he told Congress he didn’t know about any active whistleblower complaints against him…
    John Tye, executive director of Whistleblower Aid, who is representing two of the complainants alleging retaliation by Sharpley and other senior managers, said some discord in the office stemmed from a case several years ago involving kickbacks from contractors…
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/lawmakers-question-whether-cia-inspector-general-nominee-lied-to-congress

    FakeNewsMSM provide these people with a platform:

    7 Sept 2018: Politico: Trump Wants to Polygraph His Own Staff. That’s Nuts.
    By BRADLEY P. MOSS and MARK ZAID
    Bradley P. Moss is a partner at the Washington, D.C. Law Office of Mark S. Zaid, P.C…
    Mark S. Zaid is the managing partner of the Law Office of Mark S. Zaid, P.C…He is the executive director of the James Madison Project and co-founder of Whistleblower Aid.
    The president routinely denounces the ongoing Russia probe led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller as a “witch hunt.” But a broad polygraph screening of the White House would truly be a “witch hunt.”…
    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/07/polygraph-tests-trump-administration-219740

    early on, WaPo were spruiking for foundations to fund them:

    18 Sept 2017: WaPo: Former whistleblower starts legal aid group to guide would-be tipsters
    By Carol Morello
    Tye, a former State Department whistleblower, and lawyer Mark S. Zaid have formed Whistleblower Aid…
    It is not entirely coincidental that Whistleblower Aid is being launched during the presidency of Donald Trump, whose 2016 campaign is under investigation for contacts with Russians.
    “We want to advise people what to do, whether it’s going to Congress, or an inspector general or Robert Mueller,” Tye said when asked about the timing, referring to the general counsel handling the investigation.
    The firm is seeking donations from foundations and crowdsource funding to cover expenses…

    Starting Monday, the start-up will be blitzing Washington to publicize its services with ads on Metro trains. It will have people on street corners handing out branded whistles. And throughout the week, two mobile billboards advertising Whistleblower Aid will spend 10 hours a day circling the White House, the Capitol, the Pentagon, the CIA and the National Security Agency to try to attract clients…
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/former-whistleblower-starts-company-to-give-advice-to-would-be-tipsters/2017/09/17/711049e4-e55d-40c5-b71a-50032851a7f4_story.html

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      Graeme No.3

      Personally, if I was working for the Democrats, which I am not, I would suggest that bringing up Hunter Biden was the last thing you should do, unless you want a backlash that destroys Biden.

      Nor will you find Snow White or Sir Galahad in the Ukraine.

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        Hanrahan

        Do ya reckon that it may have been a plot to destroy Biden? Joe is a seriously flawed candidate [even worse than Killary] but if he’s the best they have, they have nothing.

        Reading the transcript of the phone call this morn I can only conclude that the dems have a death wish. So many things have swung against them in the last couple of years:
        CNN/NSMBC ratings have tanked since Muller. Fewer are listening.
        Modi’s recent visit has delivered many of the 3 mill Indians in the US to the GOP.
        The blacks are more contented, there have been no Ferguson style riots, and more are working.
        Latinos are more against open borders than the community as a whole.
        The promotion of late term/post birth abortion cannot have majority support, surely?
        The refusal of the dems to do anything constructive must be noticed. They even put a poison pill in the legislation designed to reduce prescription drug prices.

        There are many more things that have changed of course with the only constant being white, college educated, Trump hating women. That’s not enough.

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          Hanrahan

          Oh dear, moderated again. I’ll try again.

          Do ya reckon that it may have been a plot to destroy Biden? Joe is a seriously flawed candidate [even worse than Hillary] but if he’s the best they have, they have nothing.

          Reading the transcript of the phone call this morn I can only conclude that the dems have a death wish. So many things have swung against them in the last couple of years:
          CNN/NSMBC ratings have tanked since Muller. Fewer are listening.
          Modi’s recent visit has delivered many of the 3 mill Indians in the US to the GOP.
          The [non-whites] are more contented, there have been no Ferguson style riots, and more are working.
          Latinos are more against open borders than the community as a whole.
          The promotion of late term/post birth abort!on cannot have majority support, surely?
          The refusal of the dems to do anything constructive must be noticed. They even put a poison pill in the legislation designed to reduce prescription drug prices.

          There are many more things that have changed of course with the only constant being white, college educated, Trump hating women. That’s not enough.

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      pat

      as for the Biden deals:

      VIDEO: 6min01sec: 24 Sept: Breitbart: Peter Schweizer: Hunter Biden Made a Deal with China that ‘Nobody Else Has’
      by Joshua Caplan
      Appearing Monday on the Fox News Channel with Sean Hannity, Breitbart News senior contributor and Secret Empires author Peter Schweizer elaborated on the troubling circumstances surrounding Hunter Biden’s business dealings in China and Ukraine, noting that his $1.5 billion private equity deal with the Bank of China remains unprecedented in the investment world.
      A transcript is as follows (INCLUDES JOHN SOLOMON)
      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/24/peter-schweizer-hunter-biden-made-a-deal-with-china-that-nobody-else-has/

      21 Sept: Fox News: Peter Schweizer: Biden Ukraine dealings – 7 essential facts
      Editor’s note: Peter Schweizer and the Government Accountability Institute spent three years investigating former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter and their dealings in the Ukraine and China. The research culminated in the #1 New York Times bestselling book “Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends” (Harper Collins, March 2018). Below are some of the results of the investigation.
      https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/peter-schweizer-biden-familys-foreign-dealings-7-essential-facts

      VIDEO: 8min26sec: 21 Sept: Fox News: Peter Schweizer says Hunter Biden worked in Ukraine despite lacking credentials: ‘What is he being paid for?
      by Victor Garcia
      https://www.foxnews.com/media/peter-schweizer-president-trump-right-to-ask-for-investigation-into-hunter-biden

      11 May: NY Post: The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China
      By Peter Schweizer
      https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/

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    yarpos

    Had an interesting chat at lunch today with old work colleagues , one of whom is a true believer. He was telling what a great success story concentrated solar and molten salt storage was, and in fact solar supplies 70% of Spains total electricity needs. Was a bit miffed when I said that with current technology that was pretty much impossible and he must have his numbers mixed up. Denier! Denier! pants on fire!

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      Hanrahan

      I remember talk of a concentrated solar being built in SA but at the same time reading of such a plant in Spain. Change N to S and they were at the same Lat.

      The Spanish plant was hard pressed to keep the salt molten during winter.

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        Graeme No.3

        Hanrahan:

        Most shut down for the 3 months of Winter. That cuts down on their usage of natural gas.
        Yes, one plant did operate for 7(or 9?) months without gas boosting for 24 hour supply. Unfortunately the output averaged less than 30% of nominal capacity, so about the output of 2 big diesels.

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    Crakar24

    Walked into the news agency today and was served by a teenage boy old enough to attend tbe childrens climate strike. I bought 2 x bunyip newspaper @ $1.70 each and 2 × leader @ $1.60 each. The boy required a calcuator to work out the total price and then charged me $8.80.

    “Back in my day” we focussed on the 3 R’s they were reading, writing and arithmatic today they are rights, religion and recalcitrance, all hope is lost….but then my 21 yr old daughter who has one foot in wokeville and one out (tried my best) told me about a friend at uni who hesitantly said to the group ” i know we are killing the planet but….i think maybe things go in cycles” my daughter praised her for still having a brain.

    I am now a little unsure of what our future holds….

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    pat

    re Brexit. I have prog left friends in England who consider Jon Snow (ITN, Channel 4) the last remaining credible journalist!!! “tasteless” is such a weak response:

    24 Sept: UK Sun: EU WHAT? ‘Tasteless’ Channel 4 host Jon Snow suggests there should be second Brexit vote as ‘a lot of people have died’ since 2016
    by Natasha Clark
    CHANNEL 4’s Jon Snow was blasted as “tasteless” last night after he suggested there should be a second Brexit vote because so many voters have died since 2016.
    The host sparked fury after he asked Labour MPs whether Britain should have another say because more young people want to Remain in the EU.

    Speaking on the second day of Labour’s annual conference in Brighton he said: “It’s a tasteless question but the truth is there are quite a lot of people who have died since the last referendum, we don’t know how they voted but a good number of older people did vote to leave.
    “A good number of young people now who are on the register now want to stay.”…

    Yesterday Labour’s conference descended into scenes of chaos after they threw out a Remainer bid to back staying in the EU no matter what.
    Delegates cheered and whooped as Mr Corbyn’s plan to stay neutral was passed.
    It means Labour will go into the next election with NO position on Brexit.
    They will instead vow to hold a second referendum and then decide later on whether to campaign for or against their own deal.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/9991812/brexit-channel-4-jon-host-tasteless-voters-died/

    24 Sept: Daily Mail: Outrage as ‘smarmy sanctimonious champagne socialist’ Jon Snow , 71, asks Labour MPs if there should be a second EU referendum because ‘a lot of people’ have died since 2016 vote
    The host was interviewing Labour MPs Stephen Kinnock and Alison McGovern
    By Joe Middleton and Hannah Dawson
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7498009/Outrage-Jon-Snow-asks-MPs-new-EU-referendum-lot-people.html

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    toorightmate

    That great purveyor of all things alarmist has just stuck an article on its “””news”””” website about the IPCC alarming find that sea levels are rising at an alarming rate and the oceans’ temperatures are rising at an alarming rate.
    Earlier today the ABC Climate Alarmist Brigade told us to hold our heads in shame because Scott Morrison had the gall to give actress Greta’s UN address a big miss.
    Greta is attempting to represent her generation. You know, the generation which is more dependent on energy generation than any preceding generation.
    The generation of generation.

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      Environment Skeptic

      ……”the generation which is more dependent on energy generation than any preceding generation.
      The generation of generation.”

      Nah toorightmate…there would be legion who would give up all physical comforts (some will even be at sea with only a solar panel to charge their eye-phone) ….as long as there was enough generation power in the solar panel grid to generate a charge for the eye-phone.

      ….as long as there was enough power to charge an eye-phone emergency battery, especially in the younger generation…one solar panel of 250watts could keep at least 50-100 eye-phones charged.

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    Peter C

    Trolls Ramping Up

    Gee aye has been imitating AndyG55, the sincerest form of flattery I am told. Unfortunately he has not been very discriminating with his quotes which have been misconceived several times.

    Peter FitzRoy called me a “big C”, whatever that is. A big Colossus perhaps.

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      el gordo

      Traffic numbers seem to be increasing, perhaps they like the banter.

      Its probably just an anomaly, or perhaps a coincidence, it doesn’t matter we are already doomed.

      ‘Extreme sea level events that used to occur once a century will strike every year on many coasts by 2050, no matter whether climate heating emissions are curbed or not, according to a landmark report by the world’s scientists.’

      Guardian

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      Crakar24

      Big coal user i suspect

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      Graeme No.3

      Peter C:

      Desperation. The Cause is losing hence all the agitation and squeals about what HASN’T but MIGHT happen. Yet countries (except in the EU and NZ) aren’t rushing to commit economic suicide.
      Chicken Little time.

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      AndyG55

      “Gee aye has been imitating AndyG55”

      Hardly.. he’s been making a monumental fool of himself. 🙂

      With much encouragement 😉

      GA will only ever be a soggy wet cabbage leaf.

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      AndyG55

      I must say that I thought PF would crack first.

      He is teetering on a knife edge, not long to go now. ! 😉

      And he CAN’T ESCAPE. 🙂

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        OriginalSteve

        The IPCC should never play chicken with real science….

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sOi1l_Dkl-A

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        el gordo

        Fitz is in for the long haul, this class of naughty radicals doesn’t scare him.

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          OriginalSteve

          I have noticed an uptick recently in poor behaviour of our favourite climate change cheersquad on this board…perhaps they feel emboldened?

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            el gordo

            It came around the time of the Conversation post, in the name of free speech and open debate, Leaf lost his rag.

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            Peter C

            I have noticed an uptick recently in poor behaviour of our favourite climate change cheersquad

            I agree OriginalSteve. I am particularly interested in Gee aye. He was a gadfly: putting in the odd stinging remark here and there. His whole Andy thing seemed to mark a change of temperament. A sort of disorientation or loss of bearings.
            El Gordo could be right!

            I try not to read Peter F (but my curiosity often gets the better of me).

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    Serge Wright

    ABC Back to their favourite CC doomsday stories.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-25/un-ipcc-climate-report-warns-oceans-at-tipping-point/11547454

    Despite all the world’s tide gauges saying one thing, the ABC doesn’t bother to question the alarmist claims based on a model + an isostatic rebound figure that adds a fake % to SLR. You would think that at least one of those ABC journos would have had a taxpayer funded lunch at the Fort Denison restraunt and noted that the sea is almost in the same place as when the first settlers arrived. Instead, they believe the Opera house is half under water because a model says so.

    Also, the tide gauge data is available on the BOM’s own website.
    http://www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/projects/ntc/monthly/index.shtml#nsw
    I downloaded the dataset for Fort Denison and added a linear trend line and viola, the sea level has actually been falling for the past 5 years, yet no mention of this inconvenient factoid.

    Since I’ll be on holidays for the next few weeks I’ll download every tide gauge data set on the NSW coast, including Lord Howe island, and I’ll create a combined 5,10,15, 20, 25 and 30 year trend, including decadal trends and pop it here. Interestingly dispite all of the funds we pump into the BOM each year, i’ve never seen such a report.

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      Greg in NZ

      Oceans at a “tipping point” ? ? ?

      Similar to this KANSAS album cover, Point Of Know Return, maybe?

      Dust in the wind,
      All we are is dust in the wind
      whoah!!!

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      el gordo

      “Australia’s coastal cities and communities can expect to experience what was previously a once-in-a-century extreme coastal flooding event at least once every year by the middle of this century — in many cases much more frequently.”

      Its a big lie and the journalists at the ABC are a disgrace for pushing propaganda. A future Royal Commission will come down heavily on them and auntie would be forced to consider her future.

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      yarpos

      I wonder if the BOM adjusts tide guages like temp measurements? surely they need adjusting

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    Russell

    I guess Jo will be hard at it tonight with a review of the latest IPCC claptrap.
    The Ocean and Cryosphere in a Changing Climate.
    I downloaded from IPCC site and it doesn’t look like it is final version – drafting marks everywhere.
    And “Do Not Cite, Quote or Distribute” on most of the pages. Somebody jumped the gun?
    Talk about credits – it goes on even worse than the 15 minutes of credits for most modern movies these days.

    I went straight to something I know about to check quality.
    A rather short chapter 6 called: Extremes, Abrupt Changes and Managing Risks
    What a load of rubbish in section 6.2.2 Recent Anomalous Extreme Climate Events and their Causes
    These guys have such arrogance about their ability to pin-point causes – to 95% CI per Prof Nathan Nindoff (sic).
    Table 6.2 is full of clangers – love to Peter Ridd’s view on it.
    GBR has “Severe Hazard” due to “extreme surface temperatures” found in some cuckoos report that has no sign of replication.
    And extreme rainfall in Brisbane caused floods in 2011 that killed 23 people. What about the dam release strategy?
    Good grief – if this represents the underlying data quality of the report – it is not worth even a serious review.
    Oh, and they are offering a web site at which you can register any errors and corrections.
    So, even with all those gravy-trainers, the UN still needs crowd sourcing to validate its reports now.
    Wankers.

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    Your blog provided us useful information. You have done an outstanding job

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    I’ve included a list of what I think are the greatest misconceptions on climate in http://brindabella.id.au?c=DGHE.
    Not included in that, because it’s more a nonconception than misconception, is that between AR4 and AR5 the IPCC’s definition of the GHE has gone from vague to meaningless. What a shambles.
    Also, while I was writing it, realised that for the GHE to be increasing surface temperatures by 33C implies a heat transit time form surface to space of 19 days. There are four lines of evidence that suggest a time of about three hours. This is a X200 discrepancy.

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    David Maddison

    Latest video from Tony Heller showing temperature fraud at the US NOAA who is equivalent to Australia’s Bureau of Meterology.(BoM). In both cases historic temperature data is being altered to cool the past and warm the present to “prove” anthropogenic global warming. You may recall that Tony Abbott wanted an inquiry into the BoM fraud (exposed by Jennifer Marohasy) but was stopped in cabinet by Greg Hunt and this contributed to Tony’s demise.

    https://youtu.be/_nmhTZuFGGE

    https://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/08/heat-is-on-over-weather-bureau-homogenising-temperature-records/

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    Slithers

    This how hard science should be done.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rcHlh7KiCg
    These scientists have every opportunity to make predictions, BUT don’t.
    The 40 million people who are at risk would like some warning!
    The simple machine they show to demonstrate what the prediction process has to make judgements about is really great.
    I wonder if Climate Modelers could make their super computers make meaning-full predictions about when the next great quake will occur!
    They could practice on that simple machine to get their predictions right!

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      OriginalSteve

      Yes the new warmist indignation rating ive come up with rates the warmist response to such things….

      1-1000 milli Thurnbergs is the scale.

      This obe might come in at 400mTh.

      Children an politics – need to be careful with such things. Involving children in politics is called brainwashing….which is why the communists have put CAGW into school curriculum to turn children against thier sensible parents….

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        RicDre

        Well, at least Mini-AOC seems to be having a good time doing her thing, unlike perpetually scowling Greta, and Mini-AOC seems to have a well-developed sense of humor, unlike Greta or the real AOC.

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    Chad

    Proof of CO2 Greenhouse effect ?…..or just more spin.?
    Gents, i need some feedback and help making sense of this claim of Linkage between CO2 and atmospheric warming.
    Seems a bit sus’ that all the work was done 9 years ago, but only now emerges ?
    https://phys.org/news/2015-02-carbon-dioxide-greenhouse-effect.html

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    Carp

    Retraction to Nature article:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1585-5

    I don’t suppose the MSM will report it.

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