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So hot that we can see those Urban Heat Islands from space

During the June heatwaves in Europe NASA was studying the “Ecostress” of various cities.

The heat coming off Charles DeGualle’s  Orly Airport’s runways is easily visible from space. (As are all the other ideal locations for putting climate change thermometers.) CORRECTED Charles de Gaulle airport runways are (I think) beyond the top right of the heat map.

h/t To AndyG

EU heat Map - Madrid

The NASA Ecostress map for Paris   | Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

 

Hands up who thinks thermometers in 1880 were reading too warm? Anyone…

The shots were taken in the early morning:

They show how the central core of each city is much hotter than the surrounding natural landscape due to the urban heat island effect – a result of urban surfaces storing and re-radiating heat throughout the day.

he fact that surface temperatures were as high as 77-86 degrees Fahrenheit (25-30 degrees Celsius) in the early morning indicates that much of the heat from previous days was stored by surfaces with high heat capacity (such as asphalt, concrete and water bodies) and unable to dissipate before the next day. The trapped heat resulted in even higher midday temperatures, in the high 40s (Celsius) in some places, as the heat wave continued.

 So these heat sinks have had all night to lose their extra heat yet here they are still radiating. Even at lunch time the next day.

EU heat Map - Madrid

Rome- Ecostress Heat map  |   Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

Nice of them to mark the airports.

See Milan and Madrid below.

EU heat Map - Madrid

Milan – Ecostress Heat map    |   Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

 

 

EU heat Map - Madrid

Madrid – Ecostress Heat map  |   Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

Detecting the Urban Heat Island effect does not seem to be part of the mission statement?

COSTRESS launched to the space station last summer and began collecting its first heat data just days after installation. The instrument measures variations of ground temperatures to within a few tenths of a degree, and it does so with unprecedented detail: It’s able to detect temperature changes at various times of day over areas the size of a football field. These measurements help scientists assess plant health and response to water shortages, which can be an indicator of future drought. They can also be used in observing heat trends, spotting wildfires and detecting volcanic activity.

For more information on ECOSTRESS visit:

https://ecostress.jpl.nasa.gov

h/t Climarco for the correction to the airport name indicated in Paris.

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184 comments to So hot that we can see those Urban Heat Islands from space

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    Yukon8383

    Excellent work Jo. Hard to believe our governments can push so much disinformation.

    John

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    E. Martin

    No higher Temps shown for Charles De Gaulle?

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      Yukon8383

      It’s early morning.

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      Ken Stewart

      The runways are clearly visible as narrow dark red stripes.

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      theRealUniverse

      ‘The fact that surface temperatures were as high as 77-86 degrees Fahrenheit (25-30 degrees Celsius) in the early morning indicates that much of the heat from previous days was stored by surfaces with high heat capacity (such as asphalt, concrete and water bodies) and unable to dissipate before the next day. The trapped heat resulted in even higher midday temperatures, in the high 40s (Celsius) in some places, as the heat wave continued.’
      So NASA admits the heat is stored in the asphalt, concrete and water bodies..So will they stop calling it a heat wave of all times?

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      neil

      That suggests there is a southerly wind which explains the hotspot north of the airport.

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    PeterS

    I wonder if the homogenisation of temperatures aids the scam by spreading some of the effect due to increasing urban heat islands to other areas.

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    Gary Masding

    That’s not Charles Dr Gaulle (which is NE of Paris). It could be Orly.

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    Roger

    I’d like to see the London Heathrow data as this is Always used by the Met Office in claiming “record high temperatures”

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      Bill in Oz

      I’d like to see the images of Australian cities
      Adelaide
      Melbourne
      Sydney
      Brisbane
      Perth
      etc etc
      After all our wonderfull taxpayer funded Bureau of Misinformation has been suppressing this real information for yonks I suspect !

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    Yan

    Good article but please check your facts: the arrow pointing at Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport is in fact Paris Orly Airport.

    It of course does change the veracity of the heat island problem.

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    OriginalSteve

    We should be able to see the burning bird shredders easily from space then….heat sig should be clear..

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    Richard Ilfeld

    As has been frequently noted here, it is important to retain those airport thermometers. Density altitude is one of those insidious things that can ruin your flight. But use them for their intended purpose, which is real-time readings for pilots taking off, whose
    wings respond to the temperature at the runway, un-homoginized by the 1200 square kliks around it.

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      Bill in Oz

      And many small city airports
      With not many flights in or our
      ( especially jet engine planes )
      But with huge areas of grass
      May be reporting the temperature accurately

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        David Wojick

        Most small city airports have probably seen extensive development around them, with the grass turned to asphalt and buildings. I call this local heat contamination, rather that UHI. My conjecture is that this has added more warming to the record than UHI.

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          David Wojick

          30 years ago I moved to the vicinity of a rural town of about 24,000 people. The small airport was out in the country, surrounded by fields. It handles no scheduled flights. It is now completely surrounded by malls, commercial building, housing developments, etc., with lots and lots of asphalt. It is a temperature reporting station. I am sure that all this local development has increased the average reported temperatures.

          Some adjustments for UHI use towns with populations of less than 50,000. This ignores local heat growth, which is pervasive in many parts of the world, probably most.

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            Bill in Oz

            David that might be true of the USA
            But the scales of towns & airports is slightly less here in oz
            With roughly the same area as the USA with 340 million people
            Australia has just 24 million…

            If you look at Ken’s Kingdom posts about wacky BOM weather stations, you will see a number of air port BOM stations.

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        R.B.

        The issues with lawns is that 30 years ago, we weren’t as precious with water and some would be watered in the middle of the day.

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    el gordo

    O/T

    ‘There can now be no doubt that renewable energy failure was at the heart of SA’s blackout.’ Oz

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    Robber

    I’d like to see images/reports for ACORN stations in Australia:
    Adelaide: inner eastern suburb of Kent Town. BoM provides list of all adjustments.
    1/01/2002 Maximum Statistical Annual +0.26 Autumn +0.41 Summer +0.49
    1/01/1991 Maximum Statistical Annual −0.42
    1/01/1983 Maximum Statistical Annual +0.36
    1/02/1977 Maximum Merge Annual +0.40
    1/02/1977 Minimum Merge Annual −0.59
    1/01/1964 Minimum Obs time Annual +0.15
    1/01/1955 Minimum Statistical Annual +0.47
    1/11/1951 Maximum Move Annual −0.34
    1/01/1944 Minimum Move Annual −0.39
    1/01/1917 Minimum Statistical Annual +0.44
    Hobart: Battery Point, an inner suburb of Hobart, about 1 km south of the central city. As would be expected of a central-city site, the site is quite enclosed with numerous buildings in the vicinity.
    Melbourne: Moved on 2008. The Olympic Park site has substantially cooler temperatures, both maximum and minimum, than the previous site, with the differences most prominent on cool days in the warmer months, as winds from the southwest quadrant at the previous site passed directly over the Melbourne CBD.
    Orbost: became the primary ACORN-SAT site in January 2006. It is more elevated than the town sites and has substantially higher minimum temperatures.

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      Graeme#4

      Hmm, adjustment of less than half a degree, but the UHI effects shown in those images appear to show temp differences up to 5 degrees.

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        AndyG55

        PRECISELY !

        And then they smear that basically unadjusted urban heat over non-urban areas that it shouldn’t apply to.

        The Global Surface Temperature series IS A FARCE.

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    bullocky

    ‘… Climate Change thermometer’
    -
    Very much a contemporary gadget.

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    Chris

    The airport visible south of Paris is definitely Orly, not Charles de Gaulle. I am not sure the satellite image goes quite far enough north from the centre of Paris to show CDG airport.

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      Gerry, England

      No, I am certain it doesn’t or else they have some sort of cooling system to hide it. You can make out the Seine in the NW corner.

      But notice the blazing red of the buildings by Orly. They are warehouses and markets.

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    David Maddison

    It may interest readers to know that it was Luke Howard that first noticed the urban heat island effect in the early 1800′s in his book “The Climate of London” although he didn’t call it by that name.

    You can see an annotated copy here:

    https://www.urban-climate.org/documents/LukeHoward_Climate-of-London-V1.pdf

    Perhaps BoM members could add it to their reading list?

    The Mean Temperature of the Climate … is strictly about 48.50° Fahr.: but in the denser parts of the metropolis, the heat is raised, by the effect of the population and fires, to 50.50°; and it must be proportionately affected in the suburban parts. The excess of the Temperature of the city varies through the year, being least in spring, and greatest in winter; and it belongs, in strictness, to the nights; which average three degrees and seven-tenths warmer than in the country; while the heat of the day, …. falls, on a mean of years, about a third of a degree short of that in the open plain. (p.147)

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    If UHI was a thing our national forecaster would be telling us about it via our national broadcaster. All of that red stuff on maps is easily explained by the eruptions of Montmartre and Mount Druitt. Or something.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    hot is still hot,
    UHI or not

    ht/ billinoz

    should everyone move to the country? Burke perhaps?

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      David Maddison

      Are you talking about weather or climate?

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        Peter Fitzroy

        Both, look at this way, the temperature is important to personal comfort, as it is to statistics. So if UHI is adding a degree or two, then that will add to the discomfort.

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          AndyG55

          But it is used as part of the SCARE of AGW,

          It is applied to large areas that it shouldn’t be.

          THIS IS NOT GLOBAL WARMING

          It is localised URBAN WARMING getting smeared across vast non-applicable areas.

          It makes a total mockery of surface fabrications like GISS and BOM that are used to support the AGW alarmism.

          Has there been much actually GLOBAL warming????

          Almost certainly NOT

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            Peter Fitzroy

            I do love a good worldwide conspiracy to artificially raise temperatures. But why, to suborn so many people and records over such a long time, would mean a large organisation with large resources. Therefore the payoff must be huge, dwarfing the profits from wind and solar.

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              AndyG55

              No, just incompetence and group think,

              add in dependency on funding to deliver the “correct” message.

              You really think the likes of Gavin Schmidt, Hansen et al aren’t swimming in lucre !!

              And yes, it has been a very long term project

              Haven’t you been paying attention in class, yet again.. naughty little boy.

              No wonder you remain deliberately ignorant.

              You really are totally naïve and unaware, aren’t you PF !

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              Speaking as a daffy believer in world wide conspiracies…

              The renewable white elephants alone involve a juicy payoff. As to resources, look at the scale of GeeUp just in Australia, its enormous funding and the unpaid footsloggers recruited from the ABC-perusing classes. Big money up top, cheap feet on the ground. That’s the way to fiddle the public mind, especially with the slave media (all of the MSM and most of the alt) solidly on-side, with some allowed left/right, red team/blue team tussling.

              As to the real long-term motives of the manipulators, beyond the plunder, waste, confusion and fear-mongering…

              Elon “Joyce Maine” Musk has taken time off his super-genius engineering/space/manufacturing/excavating duties to elaborate…https://tinyurl.com/y2t5fnlq

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                Peter Fitzroy

                so, not at all like the ‘little black rock’ multi-million dollar campaign, by Coal21, which has the same board as the Minerals Council of Australia, gosh, nothing to see here.
                Caught in the middle is BHP who supports Coal21 but wants to leave the Council.
                But, as usual, let’s pretend that all the money is on the left, even though you have no proof.

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                Peter Fitzroy

                so, not at all like the ‘little black rock’ multi-million dollar campaign, by Coal21, which has the same board as the Minerals Council of Australia, gosh, nothing to see here.
                Caught in the middle is BHP who supports Coal21 but wants to leave the Council.
                But, as usual, let’s pretend that all the money is on the left, even though you have no proof.

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                AndyG55

                Coal actually PRODUCES something, modern civilisation could not exist without it.

                GetUp produces NOTHING, and civilisation would be FAR BETTER without its slimy propaganda..

                You must belong to GetUp, because YOU produce nothing.

                The amount of money spent by the leftist AGW bletheren is MAGNITUDES more than spent by coal companies trying to survive against the anti-science of CO2 HATRED.

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                AndyG55

                Coal survives on PRODUCING.. they GIVE and keep on GIVING

                Without coal, society would collapse.

                Musk and the ABC are TAKERS. !!!

                The ABC is intent on destroying society.

                There is NO SIMILARITY.

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                Kinky Keith

                Well put Andy.

                And as for “dirty coal”, yuck.

                I think that it’s one of the most beautiful natural substances around.

                Smooth sheen, reflective and burns very “clean” in modern FB HELE systems.

                KK

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              AndyG55

              Why is it always PF that uses the “conspiracy” word.

              He’s too inept to be part of it, but he seems to know it exists.

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        toorightmate

        David,
        The Drongo does not know what he is talking about.
        Never has and never will.

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      el gordo

      ‘Burke perhaps?’

      Sir … don’t you mean Bourke?

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      el gordo

      ‘Should everyone move to the country?’

      If AGW was real then cities would become hell on earth, but as global warming is a fantasy we can thank the gods for UHI. So its not an appropriate reason to go bush.

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      AndyG55

      Bourke. Warming only after moving to the airport.

      https://i.postimg.cc/q7ZntYb8/Bourke_combo.png

      https://i.postimg.cc/G2km1F7q/Bourke-AWS.png

      Quite funny to look at all the missing data..

      guess when it is, and the effect infilling from a “climate model” has. ;-)

      https://i.postimg.cc/zXm15k4v/bourke_missing.png

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      AndyG55

      Moving to the country would avoid the artificial warming, that’s for sure

      https://i.postimg.cc/D0TV5025/Deniliquin-Post-GISS-Bo-M.png

      Must be a lack of CO2 out there, I guess ;-)

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      el gordo

      Wilcannia is just over the road and makes a good comparison.

      https://jennifermarohasy.com/temperatures/submissions-to-the-panel/

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    David Maddison

    You do realise that last July was the “hottest July in recorded history” don’t you, LoL?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-02/july-may-set-global-record-hottest-in-recorded-history-un-says/11378838

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      Latus Dextro

      It’s always the hottest ever, even when its getting colder by the decade.
      NOAA / GISS – data ‘adjustment’, data ‘elimination’ and outright data fabrication, extraordinaire.
      Erasing America’s Hot Past

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        Greg in NZ

        “hottest July in recorded history” and thus believers believed, yet:

        https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/climate/2019/july2019/201907_map.png

        Looking at Dr Roy’s purdy picture of the globe’s July anomaly, half the planet was exactly the same as it ever was (neutral, no change) while the rest was either a little bit cooler or a little bit warmer: no biggie, no panic, same-same.

        https://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=155313

        If you like a little red-hot space colour (then you can keep it!) here’s a pic of a hot red aurora above Lake Wakatipu on Monday (taken by Minoru Yoneto, August 5, Queenstown, New Zealand). Purdy colours…

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          Gerry, England

          The UK claimed record was from a site that is not part of the official chain of sites. I read that the MetO were checking the equipment so that they could claim a record but obviously ignoring the buildings all around that at best make it WMO grade 2. But should the BBC picture be correct, the open earth near it renders it WMO grade 4!

          The German site was UHI infected and the French record turned out to be a ‘feels like temperature’ but the [snip] has made it into what passes for the minds of journalists and will be repeated ad nauseum.

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    Senex

    Apart from the daytime heat that is absorbed by the concrete and asphalt, then re-radiated at night, what about the heat from all of the vehicle motors, air conditioners and electrical equipment in a city?

    Another thing I wonder about. Given the massive increase of RF emissions in modern cities due to cellular phones and wifi networks, is there a non-negligible effect on the temperature in urban environments?

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      theRealUniverse

      ‘Given the massive increase of RF emissions in modern cities due to cellular phones and wifi networks’ heating due to these sources will be miniscule compared to other heat sources. In fact no heating, the far field power levels are minute.

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    David Maddison

    Some comments about UHI including reference to Australia.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/20/the-science-of-the-urban-heat-island-effect-is-pathetic-and-misleading/

    Until about year 2000, the study of Australian climate was largely by clean science. As global warming advocacy became widespread, the standard of overall science fell away.

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    Travis T. Jones

    RK Pachauri resurfacing.

    Remember him?

    Now that’s hot …

    https://www.dailypioneer.com/2019/columnists/leadership-without-care.html

    - Climate body chief defends use of ‘grey literature’

    The head of the UN’s climate change panel has defended the use of unproven science to justify climate change by saying the “grey literature” cannot be ignored.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/7725266/Climate-body-chief-defends-use-of-grey-literature.html

    - 2007, Dr R K Pachauri:
    ‘The science is absolutely first rate’
    The IPCC doesn’t do any research itself. We only develop our assessments on the basis of peer-reviewed literature.”
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/05inter.htm

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    Kinky Keith

    This is all very important stuff.

    And so to the executive summary which might be:
    “After gazing at our navels for three very demanding months and many millions of dollars, we discovered that surprisingly, our navels remained in exactly the same location”.

    For heavens sake. Just having several million people together in the one city is a Big factor. Each person gives out a minimum of 25 Watts of energy constantly, but more when active. In Sydney that’s a constant heat output of 100 million watts.
    And then consider this, in humans about one quarter of this heat loss is from the head.
    And that doesn’t include energy dumped into the city from cooking, cars and life in general.

    Wow. Perhaps we need another study as we move in ever decreasing circles while gazing at our navels.

    KK

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    TdeF

    The thermometer induced Global Warming story never stops. Yesterday the news was that July 2019 was the hottest July in human history, by 0.004C. It beat something like 2014.

    Yesterday, from Paris and Washington

    “July was Earth’s hottest month ever recorded, coming in slightly higher than the previous warmest month, which was July 2016, according to data from the Copernicus Climate Change Service. This European climate agency said in a statement Monday that July 2019 was 1.01 degrees (0.56 Celsius) above the 1981 to 2010 average, “which is close to 1.2 Celsius above the preindustrial level as defined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC),” the agency said in a statement.”

    This article does not say that it beat 2016 by 0.004C. Anyone else would have written that they were identical, so no warming but that’s not the idea.
    A reasonable person who saw 1.01 above 1981 and 1.2 above 1880 would have said that the world has wamred 0.19C in 40 years, but that’s not the idea.

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      TdeF

      All this ‘hottest ever’ is based around a steady growth up to 2010 and then a plateau of no change. The only way to spin this into rapid warming is this perpetual claim of records. If 2019 is only slightly higher than 2016, then 2017, 2018 were cooler but that was never the headline.

      Besides, now that we have satellites, why are we bothering with backyard urban thermometers? And as Global Warming has stopped completely and CO2 has not, why isn’t that the end of the CO2 produced warming? Man made CO2 increase is demostrably false, but even CO2 produced warming is now self evidently history, from the same data used to support it.

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    TdeF

    And then today this terrible news

    “Air turbulence is getting worse on flights because of climate change, with the jetstream becoming choppier since the end of 1970s, scientists have found.

    “The University of Reading has discovered that the jetstream has become 15 per cent more affected by wind shear in the upper atmosphere over the North Atlantic since satellites began observing it in 1979.

    Over the same period the number of passengers and crew getting seriously injured from turbulence globally has doubled from one in a million to two in a million – meaning around 8,000 people a year are now impacted.”

    Anyone else would have noted that air travel has exploded since 1980. Even the world’s population has doubled. There are more planes, more airports, more routes, more flights, longer flights and to more places. Anyone else would have looked at accidents per km flown and found it has dropped dramatically. Wind shear incidents per flight not total. But in the world of Global Warming, Climate Change, supporting a disaster scenario caused by the change from ‘preindustrial’ CO2 levels is the problem, the entire problem. Be afraid of flying. Tax flying. Stop flying. Unless for a Climate Conference by Hollywood or the IPCC.

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    David Maddison

    The propaganda purpose in referring to these simple heat maps as “ECOSTRESS” is to imply that there is something unnnatural or dangerous about all this. It’s just a heat map showing exactly what one expects from the very real and undisputed-by-genuine-scientists (not “scientists” from the climate “science” division of “political science”) “urban heat island” effect.

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      theRealUniverse

      The very name “ECOSTRESS” itself is placed to make a normal heat sample look like something to worry about to the uninformed masses.

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    Kinky Keith

    What NASA could do as an encore is to do a temperature sampling on places like mount Yasur and compare it with a large city.

    And do it over 24 hours and then 365.25 days.

    KK

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    Has anyone worked out how to get Australian data from Ecostress? It’s supposed to be accessible from USGS Explorer, but the instructions are not that easy to follow. The ISS track map shows the station covers Oz ok, and there will be occasions when its passage might show UHI effects such as those above. I did some UHI research back around 2002 but could only produce microclimate comparisons, eg identifying built environment where the effect was extreme.

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    David Maddison

    Given that we can no longer trust BoM or other government agency weather data I think we need to establish our own crowd source weather data which can be compared to “official” altered data. It will give is an idea of the magnitude of the “corrections” being applied to original temperature data.

    Thoughts?

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      TdeF

      We are paying $500Million a year for the BOM. Over $1,000Million for the CSIRO. $1,500Million for the ABC/SBS.

      We could demand honesty.

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        David Maddison

        We could, but that’s not going to happen because the Sheeple are too dumbed down.

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          Tdef

          As with children the threat is enough. We could build a new coal power station every year with this money. The ones Graham Lloyd in the Australian called ‘traditional’. Not described as cheap, reliable, commandable, more than adequate, weather proof, perpetual but ‘traditional’. It’s a way of avoiding stating the truth.

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          Tdef

          Sorry. Wrong tick. Thick fingers.

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    David Maddison

    Alarm bell:

    The data of a warmist Australian “university” is being used by the NASA ECOSTRESS program for “validation”.

    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-06/uoq-ucd062818.php

    DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER!

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    Geoffrey Williams

    These ‘heat’ photo’s are very informative and really put true global warming into some perspective. It’s all stored up heat that can’t dissapate naturally. And it covers hundreds of square kms. Of course it gets ‘stinking’ hot in these places !!
    GeoffW

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      TdeF

      And most humans live less than 2 metres above the ground, so what matters to them is heat close to the ground. It’s much colder even at 100 metres. And the ground is always dry and hot in cities without wind, with reflected heat, with stored heat. Satellites only should be used. However even with all the current technology, the disaster news yesterday about the hottest July on record was a difference of 0.004C from the previous hottest July, which was not the year before or the one before that. So why bother? There is no warming.

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    David Maddison

    We need science from real scientists not political “scientists”.

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    RickWill

    Those images prove man made global warming AND it is due to burning carbon and hydro-carbon fuels as well as nuclear reaction simply due to the heat release. If the temperature readings were taken away from populated areas there would be no detectable warming. Actual GLOBAL temperature increase in the last 70 years, if any, is within the measurement error.

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      RickWill

      From Roy Spencer on July temperature:
      http://www.drroyspencer.com/2019/08/july-2019-was-not-the-warmest-on-record/

      The urban heat island (UHI) effect has caused a gradual warming of most land thermometer sites due to encroachment of buildings, parking lots, air conditioning units, vehicles, etc. These effects are localized, not indicative of most of the global land surface (which remains most rural), and not caused by increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Because UHI warming “looks like” global warming, it is difficult to remove from the data. In fact, NOAA’s efforts to make UHI-contaminated data look like rural data seems to have had the opposite effect. The best strategy would be to simply use only the best (most rural) sited thermometers. This is currently not done.

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        Comment section enlightening, including Ron Graf/ Nick Stokes exchange.
        http://clivebest.com/blog/?p=8243

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        theRealUniverse

        Thats why I think ALL urban temperature sites should be abandoned or ignored..but…thats not what THEY do is it.
        These sat scans are pretty obvious whats going on.
        Another is the discrepancy between land and SEA which is totally ignored as land ONLY is used ‘prove’ warming (usually). The sea temp is warmest directly below the sub solar point (seasonal) plus lag. On the global sat data you can easily see the global hot spots where there is little oceanic circulation due to continental blocking. Sahara, India, southern US etc.

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    Tdef

    And the gay hysteria he funds is hurting people too.

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    pat

    a couple of points that struck me recently:

    27 Jun: DailyMail: June could be a record-breaker! Saturday could be hottest June day ever with temperatures topping 96F high as Met Office warns vulnerable people to stay out of the sun
    By Lara Keay and Chris Pleasance
    France’s national meteorological service has found an average annual difference between Paris and surrounding rural areas on the order of 2 to 3 degrees Celsius (4 – 5 degrees Fahrenheit).

    ***Meanwhile, experts in France warned that a so-called heat sink can drive temperatures up another ***10 degrees Celsius…
    During a heatwave, the difference ‘can reach close to ***10 degrees Celsius’, said Meteo-France…
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7182327/Britain-BOIL-Commuters-face-muggy-slog-work-Saharan-Bubble-turns-heat-UK.html

    25 Jul: LocalFrance: AFP: Scientists explain the ‘heat sink’ effect that makes Paris feel like an oven
    France’s national meteorological service has found an average annual difference between Paris and surrounding rural areas on the order of 2 to 3 degrees Celsius (4 – 5 degrees Fahrenheit).
    During a heatwave, the difference “can reach close to ***10 degrees Celsius”, said Meteo-France…
    https://www.thelocal.fr/20190725/heatwave-heat-sink-effect-raises-temperature-in-paris-by-up-to-10c

    13 Jul: Japan Times: Effects will become more obvious as Japan’s climate changes
    by Rowan Hooper
    (Rowan Hooper is the News Editor of New Scientist magazine)
    By reviewing JMA (Japan Meteorological Agency) weather-station data, the pair found evidence that the heat-island effect ***also occurs in relatively small cities…
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/07/13/national/science-health/effects-will-become-more-obvious-as-japans-climate-changes/#.XUIydeR7nIU

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      Annie

      Hasn’t the August heat in Paris always driven Parisians out of there for the month? ‘Twas ever thus iirc.

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        toorightmate

        The French have 2 things in common with the Scots.
        1. They don’t like taking a bath or shower.
        2. They both hate the English.

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        Bill in Oz

        Especially in Aout !
        Thanks for reminding me Annie
        The only time when Paris is almost empty of locals
        but flooded with tourists.
        ;-)

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      theRealUniverse

      experts in France ..they are always quoting these ‘experts’ who are the ‘experts’? No body scientists. Gimme an expert and Ill show you a fool!

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    el gordo

    ‘Most U.S. cities are at risk of experiencing extreme heat thanks to the “urban heat island effect” that’s causing cities to warm as much as 50% faster than the rest of the country.’

    AXIOS

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    pat

    of course, Govt population policies are conveniently guaranteeing future AGW:

    QLD population: Brisbane heading to Sydney size by 2056
    Courier Mail – 7 Aug 2019
    It shows that under a “business as usual” scenario the greater Brisbane population would nearly double from 2.5 million to 4.8 million by 2056 with most of the growth in the outer suburbs, which would grow from 1.9 million to 3.8 million people…

    7 Aug: Bendigo Advertiser: Regional Australia Institute report believes regional city populations could swell in the next 40 years
    by Chris Pedler
    Bendigo’s population could potentially climb above the 500,000 mark by 2056 according to a new report from the Regional Australia Institute.
    The report – titled Regional Population Growth: Are We Ready? – looks at the economic consequences different population scenarios could on metropolitan and regional areas of the country…

    If current settlement patterns continued as usual in Victoria, Bendigo’s growth would grow from 110,446 in 2016 to 223,805 in 2056.
    Moderately diverting expected growth from metropolitan areas to regional cities would mean Bendigo’s population could hit 360,278 in 2056.
    A high amount of diversion from metropolitan areas leaves Bendigo with a forecast population of 530,232…

    The Regional Australia Institute extrapolated data from the Australian Bureau of Statistic and the Victorian Government to make the forecasts on the regional areas of Greater Geelong, Greater Bendigo, Ballarat, Latrobe City, Shepparton, Warrnambool and Albury-Wodonga…
    “Australia’s population is set to grow by up to 19 million by 2056, with the Sydney and Melbourne to hit megacity status in the next few decades. Brisbane and Perth will grow to the size of Sydney and Melbourne today.”…

    In total population in the Victorian regional cities listed in the report could go from 710,000 in 2016 to up to 3.4 million people in the dispersed high-growth scenario…
    https://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/6316218/bendigos-population-could-rise-above-500000-people-by-2056/

    what percentage of the so-called global tempature is derived from City/town thermometers?

    when we are immediately shown temps on city/town machines during heatwaves, how can it be that they have already been adjusted for UHI?

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    joseph

    No doubt the ABC’s “Climate – Change Facts”, oh, sorry, “Climate Change – Facts” on Sunday evening will delve deeply into the UHI subject matter. Hope you’ll all be watching.

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    Maptram

    And it makes Joelle Gergis partly correct. I read that one of the things she said was that parts of Australia would become uninhabitable with catastrophic climate change. She is only partly correct. The parts that will become uninhabitable will be the cities due to the urban heat island effect and if people like her get their way and the country goes to 50% and more energy from renewables and air conditioners can’t work without power.

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      el gordo

      On that point.

      ‘In an interview with German national daily Die Welt, BBK President Christoph Unger warned that in the future Germany faced higher probabilities of natural disasters arising from climate change, such as droughts, heat waves and flooding, but said his greatest concern was a power outage.

      “After 24 hours without electricity we would have catastrophic conditions,” Unger told Die Welt.’

      Notrickszone

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        Graeme No.3

        And further there is a hint that a wide blackout in Germany could bring down Europe.
        (Not Poland nor Czechia as they have isolated themselves from the on/off of German wind turbines to protect their national grids.)
        Also that Germans should have candles and torches handy. Public Authorities are urged to make sure of their stocks of diesel for emergency generators. I am surprised this made the MSM in Germany, normally very ABC in manner (don’t mention any problems**). Either this bloke has gone rogue or the problems of stabilising the grid are getting very serious.

        ** except more subidies needed.

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        AndyG55

        Again, the left is starting to realise the DAMAGE their idiotic pushing of the anti-CO2 meme will have consequences that they are not going to like.

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    Zane

    It was far hotter in past epochs when both poles were completely ice free.

    https://www.geolsoc.org.uk/Education-and-Careers/Ask-a-Geologist/Earths-Climate/How-Long-has-Earth-had-Polar-Ice-Caps

    Antarctica was forested 33 million years ago!!!

    Greens seemingly all suffer from IDS – Information Deficit Syndrome!

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      theRealUniverse

      Form that link,
      ‘ for even in the late Cretaceous (generally regarded as a ‘greenhouse’ time)’ See they still have to put the (fake) greehouse part in,. What greenhouse period.? An absurd statement. There was NO correlation with CO2 with any of the paleo temperatures.
      I think these sites have been edited to put bits of PC AGW theory (which is totally irrelevant) embedded into the science speak as they know it will be read by students and lay persons.

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        Graeme No.3

        The late Cretaceous was supposed to be cooler and drier, with lowered sea levels. There were dinosaurs and trees in both Australia and Antarctica but most discoveries (Leaellynasaura from Oz) (Antarctopelta from Antarctica) are from the mid Cretaceous or earlier. The titanosaurs, Diamantinasaurus and Wintonotitan, were late Cretaceous. Although smaller than their equivalents in South America, they are proof that the 2 continents were connected through Antarctica. I haven’t heard of any ice caps.

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        Greg in NZ

        te RU
        this audio has been edited since I heard it ‘live’ yesterday, principally to take out the ignorance/shock of the host, Jesse ‘Woke’ Mulligan, when he was told by paleontologist, Professor Paul Scofield, southern NZ used to have crocodiles when it was warmer. Crocodiles? Warmer? NZ? Yessirree Jesse, “like Queensland”:

        https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2018707617/world-s-largest-parrot-fossil-discovered-in-central-otago

        Between 1′ 00″ and 2′ 00″ of this 12-minute audio, the good prof calmly explains how this giant parrot, Heracles inexpectatus, lived between “16 and 19 million years” ago during the Miocene when it was “at least 6 or 7 degrees warmer” than today, a time when the “diversity and sheer number of animals was much greater than today“…

        You could palpably hear watermelon heads exploding all around the country – as well as a few quiet, sane, satisfied chuckles from realists (myself included) – as the whole edifice of artifice collapsed under the weight of its own hubris. So who are the science/climate dєиiєrs now?

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    TdeF

    An observation on what connects this drive to prove man made disaster, trashing what would be rational science.

    The weakness in Western society with the collapse of traditional religions is guilt. Guilt still remains though and it is fed by a number of ideas
    which leave the majority of Western ex religious people focused on social justice, to name one.

    Forests vs grass. The world is going to be ruined by deforestation, even if forests are replaced with orange trees or grasses or other vegetation. And it’s your fault.
    Global Warming. The world is going to be ruined by the motor car and it’s your fault.
    Gays and transvestites are being treated horribly and it’s your fault.
    18th and 19th century Slaves were not paid and deserve compensation. And it’s all your fault.
    Ab*rigines were not paid for work and even if white people were not paid either, they deserve compensation and it’s all your fault.
    People live in appalling conditions and deserve better, so give them your houses and jobs and wealth, because it’s all your fault.
    Western white people have done so much better than any other group and if you are Western and White, you have White Privilege and it’s all your fault.

    So pay up. Vote for people who are going to right these wrongs.
    Guilt, the one tool which can bring Western soft voters to their knees.

    Which explains why Man Made Global Warming has such a zealotry behind it, such a religious feeling and such an attraction. I
    had a discussion yesterday with someone who just ‘believes’ in it, regardless of the facts. And of course anyone who disagrees is a ‘denier’.

    No wonder Australia is being destroyed by massive illegal carbon indulgences hidden in your electricity bills at a wholesale level.

    It’s a religion, based on guilt. And so many opportunists are taking advantage of this. Even the Pope is behind it. A sort of scientific socialism justified by guilt.

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      TdeF

      I believe this ideas ties in the major concepts

      Sorry
      reparations for ab*rigines
      Constitutional changes for ab*rigines
      reparations in the US for slaves of 170 years ago
      LGTBQI
      tearing down Confederate statues
      attacking Admiral Nelson, Captain Cook, Columbus, General Lee
      immigration, open borders
      toxic masculinity
      #metoo
      #jesuischarlie
      Palestine
      Climate change

      Guilt. Endless guilt. The weakness of ex Christians who on the one hand are vehemently anti Christian
      but still wide open to accusations which speak of guilt. We’re so sorry. Here have a lot of other people’s money, free health care and who needs borders?
      So many of those things listed are just the height of hypocrisy, especially #jesuischarlie.
      Jordan Peterson might love this explanation.

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        TdeF

        And there is no need to feel guilty about Global Warming/Climate Change, because we are not responsible for the increase in CO2 levels. That is science fact, not debatable. I am still though flabbergasted at someone saying that no matter what the facts, they believe because it feels right.

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          TdeF

          I guess my frustration is arguing the facts. Real science. I am dealing with religious converts to Climate Change. What is bothering them is guilt. Charities all over the world cater to guilt. It’s a huge business. Like windmills. Solar panels. Immigration. White privilege. But I repeat myself.

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    Phoenix44

    Isn’t the important point here that most warming is of Minimums? This clearly shows that man-made structures massively retain heat at night and so MUST increase those Minimums.

    It is this night-time retention that is the key not UHI making maximums a little higher.

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    Tarquin Wombat-Carruthers

    Slightly off-topic, but I just heard that some bishop of the blitherati has decreed that we should weigh airline passengers in order to have them pay more for their sins! OK, here goes! Firstly, all passengers and crew should fly naked to reduce their penalty. Secondly, there should be no food or drink on board. Thirdly, zero luggage! Fourth, no entertainment of any kind. In other words, all passengers should be indistinguishable from inert freight (cartons/bags of flour/sugar/pills). That’ll work!!!

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    el gordo

    No UHI at Nobby’s Head, which suggests global warming is a result of Urban Heat Islands.

    http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/australia/nsw/newcastle-raw-temps.gif

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    eliza

    This is the most important significant posting since cliamtegate ect or even since AGW was conceived. It basically shows that most likely, the small recorded rises in temps are 100% due to UHI and there is no AGW.This should be posted every newspaper TV stations to be advised, It physically shows that AGW does not exist.

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    pat

    ***I doubt the “average temperatures have been higher in recent years” with or without UHI:

    7 Aug: ClimateDepot: Marc Morano: AccuWeather Founder/CEO: ‘No evidence so far that extreme heat waves are becoming more common because of climate change’ – ’26 of 50 states set their all-time high temp records during 1930s’
    ACCUWEATHER LINK READ ALL
    ‘Throwing cold water on extreme heat hype’
    By Dr. Joel N. Myers, AccuWeather Founder and CEO: “Although ***average temperatures have been higher in recent years, there is no evidence so far that extreme heat waves are becoming more common because of climate change, especially when you consider how many heat waves occurred historically compared to recent history.”
    “Kansas City, Missouri, for example, experienced an average of 18.7 days a year at 100 degrees or higher during the 1930s, compared to just 5.5 a year over the last 10 years. And over the last 30 years, Kansas City has averaged only 4.8 days a year at 100 degrees or higher, which is only one-quarter of the frequency of days at 100 degrees or higher in the 1930s.

    Here is a fact rarely, if ever, mentioned: 26 of the 50 states set their all-time high temperature records during the 1930s that still stand (some have since been tied). And an additional 11 state all-time high temperature records were set before 1930 and only two states have all-time record high temperatures that were set in the 21st century (South Dakota and South Carolina).

    So 37 of the 50 states have an all-time high temperature record not exceeded for more than 75 years. Given these numbers and the decreased frequency of days of 100 degrees or higher, it cannot be said that either the frequency or magnitude of heat waves are more common today.”…
    https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/08/07/accuweather-founder-ceo-no-evidence-so-far-that-extreme-heat-waves-are-becoming-more-common-because-of-climate-change-throwing-cold-water-on-extreme-heat-hype/

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      TdeF

      Apart from averages, it shows that extreme weather, heat waves are less frequent. There has been a slight heating as predicted, before now a rapid fall. The idea that extreme weather is as predictable as the average is just silly. Clearly it’s not true, but that’s just the truth of it. Like hurricanes. What I would love to know is why a 1C increase in average world temperature (whatever that means) would increase extremes? Firstly in the range of temperatures it is almost tiny for sub tropical, temperate and certainly arctic conditions with ranges of say 10C, 20C and 40C across a year. Then why should it have any effect? The only thing missing is any proof. As usual.

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    6 Aug: NoTricksZone: Expensive Especially For Home Owners! Wind Turbines Can Decrease Property Values By Up To 23%, German Study Finds!
    By P Gosselin
    https://notrickszone.com/2019/08/06/expensive-especially-for-home-owners-wind-turbines-can-decrease-property-values-by-up-to-23-german-study-finds/

    6 Aug: Washington Times: Gunman’s left-wing views thwart Democratic efforts to pin mass shootings on Trump
    By Valerie Richardson
    The El Paso suspect, 21-year-old Patrick Crusius, is believed to have authored a 2,300-word manifesto saying he was motivated by the “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” criticizing “race mixing,” and warning of “cultural and ethnic replacement.”

    Along with such white-nationalist stances, however, are positions that would fit in with the agenda of the climate-change movement, including blasts at corporations, consumerism and environmental degradation.
    “[O]ur lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country,” said the document. “The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly overharvesting resources.”
    The manifesto went on to say that “water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations” and consumption is “creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent.”
    The “next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources,” said the document.

    Craig Rucker, president of the free-market group CFACT, called out 2020 Democratic presidential contenders for being “quick to take cheap shots at the President for supposedly fueling this gunman’s bigotry.”
    “[W]hat’s particularly irksome in this case is that if these presidential candidates are going to point fingers, then [they] ought to be very careful it doesn’t come back on them,” Mr. Rucker said in a statement. “That’s because this so-called manifesto does not just point to anti-immigration as a motivating factor, but also deep green ecology.”…

    “What then, should we point the blame of this attack and others on the fearmongering of liberal politicians on subjects like climate change, overpopulation and resource depletion?” Mr. Rucker asked. “No, and we won’t, because these are the rantings of a madman, and tragedy is not the time to score political points.”…
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/6/connor-betts-left-wing-views-thwart-democrats-effo/

    for the record:

    7 Aug: AP: AP Correction: Texas-Mall Shooting story
    EL PASO, Texas (AP) — In stories Aug. 3-5 about the deadly shootings at an El Paso Walmart, The Associated Press reported erroneously on the number of mass killings so far in 2019. There have been 23 mass killings so far in 2019, leaving 131 people dead.
    A corrected version of the story is below
    https://www.apnews.com/8a2904ac12f54d8790eb94d3e292af72

    given AP fails to mention what they reported previously, here it is:

    4 Aug: WTOP: Associated Press: Attack on Texas shoppers to be handled as domestic terrorism
    The shootings in Texas and Ohio were the ***21st and 22nd mass killings of 2019 in the U.S., according to the AP/USA Today/Northeastern University mass murder database that tracks homicides where four or more people killed — not including the offender.
    Including the two latest attacks, 125 people had been killed in the 2019 shootings…
    https://wtop.com/national/2019/08/20-dead-many-injured-after-gunman-attacks-texas-shoppers/

    WTOP have now corrected their story at the same url, while also failing to mention the original, slightly different, numbers:

    7 Aug: WTOP: AP: Correction: Texas-Mall Shooting story

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      7 Aug: ClimateDepot: CLAIM: ‘Climate Change Becoming a Deadly Part of White Nationalism’ – Identity politics invades climate change debate
      https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/08/07/claim-climate-change-becoming-a-deadly-part-of-white-nationalism-identity-politics-invades-climate-change-debate/

      7 Aug: Breitbart: Nine Themes in El Paso Shooter’s Manifesto the Media Ignored to Blame Trump
      by Aaron Klein
      Missing from much of the news media coverage is that the manifesto promotes far-left policy prescriptions including universal healthcare and a socialist-style “universal income.”…
      While the news media have sought to portray the shooter as a Trump ideologue, perhaps the two main themes of the document are actually anti-corporatist and eco-extremist sentiment…

      1 – The shooter stressed the environmental aspects of his motivations by naming the manifesto “The Inconvenient Truth,” clearly utilizing the namesake of Al Gore’s climate alarmist documentary…
      4 – The author repeatedly blamed corporations for “the destruction of our environment.”…
      8 – The manifesto blamed the “American lifestyle” for “destroying the environment of our country,” and claimed this so-called “decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”…
      9 – Far from singularly expressing ultranationalist ideology, the manifesto actually slams Americans and calls for the general population to be forcibly decreased…
      https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/08/07/nine-themes-in-el-paso-shooters-manifesto-the-media-ignored-to-blame-trump/

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        pat

        6 Aug: Newsbusters: An ‘Inconvenient Truth’: El Paso Shooter Was Eco-Extremist, Loved ‘Lorax’
        By Joseph Vazquez
        The alleged manifesto was headlined “The Inconvenient Truth,” similar to Davis Guggenheim’s 2006 documentary on Al Gore, and included eco-extremist rantings about destroying the environment, The Lorax, plastic waste and more.

        CNN and some other media conveniently ignored other portions of the four-page manifesto (believed to have been written by shooting suspect Patrick Crusius) that would reflect badly on the left — like the shooter’s environmental sentiments…

        On page two it read, “Our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly overharvesting resources.” [emphasis added]

        It cited the Dr. Seuss’ fable writing, “This phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades-old classic ‘The Lorax.’ Watersheds around the country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil-drilling operations.” He attacked “consumer culture” for plastic and e-waste, complained about urban sprawl, the use of paper towels and the unwillingness of people to change their lifestyles.”

        Many of those environmental attitudes are promoted by the liberal media. In 2012, it fawned over the updated Lorax when a movie adaptation was released. NBC’s Today, CBS New York, Huffington Post and others celebrated its environmental messaging.
        NBC Today co-host Matt Lauer was stunned that Fox News host Lou Dobbs had criticized the movie for trying to indoctrinate children with an environmentalist agenda. He told Lorax actor Ed Helms “believe it or not, Dr. Seuss has sparked controversy with this movie.”…

        ThinkProgress quipped on March 9, 2012, that it was “safe to say that anyone shocked that the movie has a strong environmental message has never read the book. The Lorax speaks for the trees.” That left-wing site perceived the moral of the story to be “it’s up to us to stop unsustainable industries: ‘UNLESS someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It’s not.’

        The Huffington Post lectured parents, telling them to talk with their children about the film’s messages and “act on them,” on March 8, 2012. CNN even noted on March 13, 2012, that The Lorax movie adaptation was criticized for allowing commercial tie-ins with IHOP and Mazda to taint the Lorax’s “green message.” As recently as 2018, NPR reported that a federal court judge quoted the Lorax in a decision cancelling a gas pipeline permit…
        https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/business/joseph-vazquez/2019/08/06/inconvenient-truth-el-paso-shooter-was-eco-extremist-loved

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          7 Aug: Spectator UK: The inconvenient truth about the El Paso shooter
          by Charles Moore
          Who wrote ‘Our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country… creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over-harvesting resources… the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable’?

          The answer, if media reports are accurate, is Patrick Crusius, the man accused of the El Paso massacre. The words appeared in his testament, entitled (in homage to Al Gore?) The Inconvenient Truth, which he seems to have put online before decreasing the number of people in America by 22.

          Who said, on Twitter, ‘I want socialism, and I’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding’? Connor Betts, the man accused of shooting nine people, including his sister, in Dayton, Ohio…

          Betts sounds like a potential Bernie Sanders recruit. Crusius seems closer to Extinction Rebellion than to Donald Trump.
          https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/the-inconvenient-truth-about-the-el-paso-shooter/

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    pat

    big FakeNewsMSM story of the day:

    8 Aug: Guardian: Climate crisis reducing land’s ability to sustain humanity, says IPCC
    UN report finds ecosystems never before under such threat and restoration is urgent
    LINK How climate’s impact on land threatens civilisation – and how to fix it
    The climate crisis is damaging the ability of the land to sustain humanity, with cascading risks becoming increasingly severe as global temperatures rise, according to a landmark UN report compiled by some of the world’s top scientists.
    Global heating is increasing droughts, soil erosion and wildfires while diminishing crop yields in the tropics and thawing permafrost near the poles, says the report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change…

    Further heating will lead to unprecedented climate conditions at lower latitudes, with potential growth in hunger, migration and conflict and increased damage to the great northern forests.

    The report (LINK), approved by the world’s governments, makes clear that humanity faces a stark choice between a vicious or virtuous circle. Continued destruction of forests and huge emissions from cattle and other intensive farming practices will intensify the climate crisis, making the impacts on land still worse…
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/08/climate-crisis-reducing-lands-ability-to-sustain-humanity-says-ipcc

    8 Aug: SwissInfo: Reuters: Farming and eating need to change to curb global warming: U.N. report
    by Nina Chestney, Stephanie Nebehay
    Dietary changes, featuring plant-based foods and sustainable animal-sourced food, could free up several million square kilometers of land by 2050 and potentially cut 0.7-8.0 gigatonnes a year of carbon dioxide equivalent, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said in the report…

    The IPCC met to finalize the report this week in Geneva, Switzerland, which should help to guide governments meeting later this year at a conference in Chile on ways to implement the 2015 Paris Agreement and avoid runaway climate change.

    Ahead of the report’s release, Greenpeace activists in Switzerland unveiled a banner outside the meeting reading “Less Meat=Less Heat. Climate Action NOW!”…
    Such warming has caused more heatwaves, droughts and heavy precipitation, as well as land degradation and desertification…
    The latest report also warned of more disruption to global food chains as extreme weather events become even more frequent due to climate change…
    Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro has supported opening up protected areas of the Amazon to facilitate agriculture and mining since he took office in January.
    http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/farming-and-eating-need-to-change-to-curb-global-warming—u-n–report/45148086

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    8 Aug: Nature: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet
    The report on global land use and agriculture from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change comes amid accelerating deforestation in the Amazon.
    by Quirin Schiermeier
    (BOTTOM)
    Updates & Corrections
    Correction 08 August 2019: An earlier version of the story incorrectly stated that hundreds of experts compiled the latest IPCC report.
    Update 08 August 2019: The fact that around half the experts who compiled the latest IPCC report hail from developing countries has been added to the story.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02409-7

    8 Aug: SMH: ‘Warning flag’: IPCC finds rapid land warming threatens food security
    By Peter Hannam
    Temperatures over the world’s land areas are warming at about twice the global rate, expanding deserts in Australia, Africa and Asia, and hitting food security hard, a new UN report finds.
    The Intergov ernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) found that surface air temperatures between 2006 and 2015 were 1.53 degrees warmer than the pre-industrial average of 1850-1900. By contrast, the combined warming of land and oceans was 0.87 degrees, the IPCC’s special report on land said…

    Mark Howden, director of the Climate Change Institute at the Australian National University and an IPCC vice-chair, said the report was “a warning flag” about the threats and “how hard we need to go” to cut greenhouse gas emissions…
    Alana Mann, a lead researcher at the Sydney Environment Institute, said the report should be “a big wake-up call”, not least for the cities where people “assume supermarket shelves will always be full”…
    https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/warning-flag-ipcc-finds-rapid-land-warming-threatens-food-security-20190808-p52f6m.html

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    John

    Sites such as this one say they control for UHI, and that the same temperature “anomalies” occur in both rural and urban recordings?

    https://skepticalscience.com/urban-heat-island-effect.htm

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      Bill in Oz

      Who says that John ?
      The mob you cite are
      A leading warmista attack dog group.
      Their target is anyone who denies GORE BULL warming.

      And to get a flavour of what our own BOM
      ‘Manages’ it’s weather stations
      Go look at Ken’s Kingdom blog &
      See the 19 wacky BOM weather stations

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        John

        Interesting articles and assessment of all the rounding issues and the record keeping practices, e.g. tending to round down when reading thermometer.

        But what the basis for saying the climate scientist at large around the world don’t correct for UHI it in their temperature reconstructions?

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        John

        Genuine enquiries here from me!

        No need for silly downvoting.

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    Roy Hogue

    How interesting. All that hot pavement does what any hot rock will do, it radiates. Quick, I have to find my old physics teacher, the one whose lectures were so dull I slept through them and still passed the course and make sure he knows the truth. Hot objects radiate.

    And thanks to the great pliability of the English language we have a new word, ecostress to describe this new bogyman. Just paste parts of two words together any way you want and you now have some new terror to be afraid of, ecostress.

    As I remember him Charles DeGualle did not suffer fools easily. I wonder what he would say about the fact that the runways at the airport named after him are doing exactly what they have been doing since they were laid down. I can hear him laughing now.

    Then there’s the money being spent to research this new nonsense. That hurts more than anything else. Do we not have real problems enough? Should we, just maybe, spend our money on the real problems? But that can’t happen because it would point out that NASA has been a major part of the problem all along. Physician, heal thyself. Except the incentive is exactly the opposite.

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    pat

    7 Aug: Vox: Using electricity at different times of day could save us billions of dollars
    “Load flexibility” could shave 15 percent off our peak electricity needs by 2030.
    by David Roberts
    As renewables grow, power is becoming less controllable (less “dispatchable” in the lingo). Wind and solar energy can’t be turned on and off at will — they come and go with the weather and time of day, so they must be accommodated, as demand once was.
    But the less-familiar story is that demand is also changing, becoming more dispatchable…

    Just how big a role could load flexibility play? Conveniently, the Brattle Group, a research consultancy, has issued a study on just that question: “The National Potential for Load Flexibility (LINK).”

    Brattle researchers built a model for electricity markets (LoadFLEX), tackled a lot of technical problems (like quantifying the future impacts of still-nascent programs) and estimated the total market potential of current and expanded load flexibility through 2030.
    What they found is the load flexibility could readily be expanded, bringing in new technologies and producing new benefits, to satisfy almost 20 percent of US peak demand — potentially eliminating the need to generate one out of every five electrons when demand spikes…READ ON
    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/8/7/20754430/renewable-energy-clean-electricity-grid-load-flexibility

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    Ruairi

    Satellites now clearly detect,
    The urban-heat-island-effect,
    Wherein temperatures stated,
    By this heat are inflated,
    Making averages worldwide suspect.

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    Climarco

    Hello,

    I am french, I live in Paris. For information, The airport is not “Charles De Gaule” but it is the Orly airport. :)

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    Speedy

    Sorry to be obtuse Jo, but are these the guys quibbling about 0.2 degrees per decade? Tell ‘em to get their hand off it.
    Cheers,
    Mike

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