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114 Private Jets flying into Google Global Summer Camp Party thing

It’s so much fun saving the planet 114 private jets at a time

Sicily beach photo

The glitterati are descending on a ritzy Sicilian seaside resort this weekend to discuss how to save the world. As usual, a bit of wrecking-the-world on the way is fine if it’s “for a good cause” — meaning fame, status, and hot three day summer camps in an Italian resort.

It’s known as Google Camp – the place where famous VIP’s get some training and incentives not to stray off the Google Groupthink-Ranch:

The billionaire creators of Google have invited a who’s who of A-list names— including former President Barack ObamaPrince HarryLeonardo DiCaprio and Katy Perry — to the Sicilian seaside for a mega-party they’ve dubbed Google Camp.

The three-day event will focus on fighting climate change — though it’s unknown how much time the attendees will spend discussing their own effect on the environment, such as the scores of private jets they arrived in and the mega yachts many have been staying on.

It’s only going to cost Google $20 million or so. It’s a small investment in their pet team of lobbyists for Big Government.

Small governments, after all, like to break up monopolies, encourage competition and cut subsidies…

What starling would want to announce they were a climate denier and get crossed off this invitation list?

h/t Pat

Related stories: Google is unbiased, impartial and just happens to be run entirely by Democrat votersPS: Anyone else noticed that Google used to call its renewables properties “investments” (eg $850b in RE>C, or these bird killers) but now it “purchases renewable energy” which leads to “$3 billion in investment”.  Seems a very strange kind of phrasing that implies Google just buy the green electrons (in theory). But small print on news stories like this one suggests Google is still buying the solar farm itself.”, Google will set up a 10-megawatt solar farm in Tainan City, Taiwan. ”

Back in 2014 Google was using tax credits and net metering to subsidize “investments”:

Most of Google’s renewable investments qualify for a federal investment tax credit that covers 30% of the cost. Its $450 million investment in rooftop solar-systems also benefits from state incentives such as “net-metering” laws. This hidden subsidy compensates ratepayers for power they remit to the grid at the retail rate, which can be three times as much as the wholesale price of electricity. Net-metering allows solar companies to charge higher rates to homeowners who lease their panels, and thus for investors like Google to reap larger profits.

So how much money has Google invested in renewables? Even Wikimedia has no information on this after 2014?

Photo by Camille Minouflet on Unsplash

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114 comments to 114 Private Jets flying into Google Global Summer Camp Party thing

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    The Depraved and MOST Deplorable Vlad the Impaler

    “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

    G. Orwell

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      Roy Hogue

      How deplorable, they are dishonest (oh, hi Vlad).

      And it doesn’t make them any less dishonest that they are deplorable.

      You can bet your life that if I had a private jet I would fly it and flip off this all animals are equal nonsense. After all, an animal that has no private jet cannot possibly be equal to one that does.

      And then there’s Orwell. What will he think if I fly my own jet? I know. We’ll take away the private jets of all the pigs that have one. That ill make all he pigs equal again. What use has a pig for a private jet anyway?

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        PeterS

        Speaking of Orwell, I recently watched (yet again) the movie 1984 (1984 version) and you reminded me of the scene where O’Brien being a member of the Inner Party turned off the Big Brother telescreen and Winston Smith remarked “You can do that?” or words to that effect. So the so called elite today who now push the global warming/climate change hoax can do the same sort of thing. They are excluded from any restrictions that they want to enforce on the rest of us. Clearly it exposes the elite as complete hypocrites and fraudsters.

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        Kinky Keith

        Hi Roy,

        ” What will he think if I fly my own jet? ”

        Surely that’s not “turbine envy” from a “prop” man?

        :-) :-) KK

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          Roy Hogue

          Nice try KK. But whose jet is the longest doesn’t interest me. ;-)

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            The Depraved and MOST Deplorable Vlad the Impaler

            G’day Roy,

            Completely O/T, but since ‘turbine envy’ has been brought up, I always wanted to drive my own Airbus A-340-600. It has some of the most beautiful lines of any turbine airliner ever produced. But, it’s not my first love, and I’m admittedly fickle … … …

            The very first time I ever saw a Boeing 727 (the -100 model was the first put into service), it knocked my socks off, and from then on, any time I had to fly somewhere, I specifically looked for a B-727, so infatuated with them was I.

            Up until a few years ago, FedEx brought a B-727 (cargo conversion) into Casper, from the Memphis hub, and one of my thrills (even as a senior citizen) was to watch it depart each morning, out of Casper, going to Boise. Just after it left, my passengers would usually show up, and I’d climb into my Cessna 414, to do that day’s trip (I took our local hospital doctors/nurses to outreach clinics around the state; we often flew five trips per week).

            While I grabbed me a handful of Energizers (engines), and pushed them up to “maximum enthusiasm”, I pretended I was applying take-off thrust to my “three” Pratt & Whitney JT-9D’s, calling out “V1″, and “V2″, and then “rotate” … … …

            I may grow old, Roy, but I REFUSE to grow UP!!!!!!

            Regards,

            Vlad

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              Latus Dextro

              Hey there Vlad,
              As a pilot (PPL) and glider pilot I too have enjoyed the history and life of the B727.
              You’ll be aware, it is sometimes referred to as ‘the three holer’. Many years ago ‘Flight’ magazine (if I recollect accurately) wrote a wonderful article about it, mainly from the perspective of recruting low hour private pilots as second officers, and having them learn on the job in the right seat of a three holer. Pure magic and a sublime opportunity for many!

              Then there’s the story of the B727 that simply and bizarrely vanished from Quatro de Fevereiro International Airport in Angola in Africa (where else!). One pilot took it one night and disappeared. This is the stuff of fables and conspiracy. The Professional Pilots Rumour Network (PPRuNe) have some very interesting stuff to read on the subject.

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              Roy Hogue

              Good for you my friend. Myself, since I can no longer fly I graduated to flight simulators and took up a challenge I never tried before, the tail-dragger, specifically that classic among classics, the Piper J3 Cub.

              For practical flying everything is tricycle gear but the venerable old J3 is still around daring me to try to land it in one piece. I probably broke it 30 times before I could put it on the ground without ground-looping. Crosswind takeoff and landing instruction starts any day now.

              I may have an Airbus something or another in one of the simulators.

              My all time favorite is the Boeing 707.

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                Latus Dextro

                Talking flying, always a joy and a pleasure, Roy, thank you.
                I did my tail-dragger rating in a J5F Auster (1946 vintage!) … two hands to the flap lever to the left of your head! To get the rating I was required to demonstrate a crossed-up landing on one front wheel, fly the aircraft in that configuration down the runway, take off, fly the circuit and repeat for the opposite side. Once mastered, all else became simple …. except the Piper Cub. In contrast to the fist around the stick of an Auster, the Cub required the thumb and forefinger finesse of the gifted. Let’s just say the plane wasn’t around long enough to master the moment, although when gliding, all my tows were from a Super Cub, so I got a fine view in formation on its derrière.
                I was once granted (and logged) an hour in the airline B737 flight simulator at a major airport in the UK. I’m proud of that log entry. You could feel the nose wheel bumping over spaces between the concrete slabs of the apron when taxiing. All except the first landing, a “Cessna flare” in the words of the instructor, were fine. The “Cessna flare” technically broke the fuselage in two, not exactly the desired way to end a flight – essentially, chop the power at the fence and haul back, okay in a C-182 but doesn’t quite do it for a B737 that drops like a stone when the power is cut.

                So, like Walter Mitty I live for that moment,
                “Ladies and Gentlemen, is there a pilot aboard? Could you make yourself known to the crew.”

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                Roy Hogue

                Latus,

                It was the J3 Cub years ago that first put the idea into young Roy Hogue’s mind that I might someday fly. It was summer vacation and I was about 13 or 14 and we had a neighbor who was an A&P mechanic. He asked me one day if I would like to go to work with him for the day. Would I ever. I was as curious a kid about nearly everything as you could find so I jumped at the chance.

                That day I had nothing to do but explore around a hangar off on one corner of the airport and stay away from moving propellers. Like most FBOs this one offered introductory rides for a small charge and sure enough someone showed up and wanted to go up. There were a pair of canary yellow J3s sitting in front of the hangar, the only 2 I’ve ever seen in person. I watched as Mac and his passenger climbed aboard and they were gone only 15 minutes, maybe less. But I thought to myself: self, I bet you could learn to fly one of those. And that dream was there ever since.

                The simulator has a multitude of problems and the real airplane is easier to fly any day. I know the difference in just one airplane I flew, the Cessna 172. Among other problems: no depth perception; no peripheral vision unless you have 3 monitors and the best joystick in the world can’t make up for the problem that you don’t have your hands on the controls and you get dummied up control forces fed back to you by some algorithm. Don’t even talk about needing to use the keyboard for some things.

                The J3 is now classified by the FAA as an ultralight, meaning you don’t need a license to fly one. And there are so many of them around because they were built on a welded steel frame and they’re in big demand. A retired airline captain friend told me tat if you had a J3 with no damage and all it’s maintenance records intact it could sell for $80,000 or more very easily. Original price, under $1,000.

                The J3 Cub is a classic among classics.

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                Roy Hogue

                I got about an hour in a 727 simulator thanks to that same pilot friend. When I sat down in the left hand seat I intended to put the nose down and see what the simulator would do when it hit. It was too real and I couldn’t make myself do it.

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                Peter C

                Latus Dextro ( wide to the right) and Roy Hogue.

                Pleased that you are flyers and Latus Dextro a Glider.

                Roy, You make some useful comments about Simulators. We are building a glider training simulator right now. We are trying to address some of the problems that you have identified.

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                Roy Hogue

                Peter,

                My one and only sailplane flight with an instructor behind me doesn’t make me an expert on gliders but I did find but that in the air they are basically an engine out powered airplane. Is that about right? Anyway…

                So on that premise the only good solution is to build a cockpit duplicating the sail plane, put real stick and rudder in it and see how realistic a display you can create for the view out in front or to the sides.

                Your simulator must move realistically up to at least 60 degree bank and some pith extreme you will need to define (it should hand you the sensations of uncoordinated rudder and aileron). Control force feedback needs to be completely smooth without the cogging associated with any kind of motor that supplies the force. Then you will have a real simulator. Might do it for a few million if you have volunteer engineering.

                In the U.S. approval by the FAA for flight training is the standard.

                And now that I’ve ordered the impossible I’ll say good luck. But my one trip through a real FAA approved flight simulator tells me that is what it takes to make it too real to just be able to put the nose down to see what it’s gonna do when it goes splat. I find it only too easy to put the PC simulator nose down to see what will happen.

                I wonder if you could find an off-the-shelf simulator rather than build one.

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              Roy Hogue

              I hate to be a wet blanket on the 727 — I did many miles on them myself — but they had bad stall characteristics because of all that weight in the rear and to prevent trouble from creeping up on the captain the last (lowest) flap position was blocked off by order of the FAA. Otherwise they tended to stall tail end first which as you know leaves you no recovery. That locked them out of some runways they might otherwise have used and you could argue that you should not stall the airplane anyway.

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                Latus Dextro

                Roy, I didn’t know that. I always thought the C of G limitations would have had to have been spot on for FAA / CAA aircraft certification. It would have had to have taken a very odd loaded configuration to have stalled tail first, suggesting C of G limits out of bounds aft. Having done a aerobatics rating I can’t imagine a tail heavy scenario, except in my wildest nightmares! But I do see what you mean, here, B727 Holy Moses!:

                “The 727 was stable at very low speeds compared to other early jets, but some domestic carriers learned after review of various accidents that the 40-degree flaps setting could result in a higher-than-desired sink rate or a stall on final approach. These carriers’ Pilots’ Operation Handbooks disallowed using more than 30° of flaps on the 727, even going so far as installing plates on the flap lever slot to prevent selection of more than 30° of flaps.”

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                Latus Dextro

                Funnily enough, using the max flap setting on a C-172, which from recollection is at 40deg. I always felt vaguely ill at ease. The vibration and uncommonly pitched down attitude with a high rate of sink tended to keep one on one’s mettle. Only to be used in quiet desperation with a firm eye on the ASI.

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                Roy Hogue

                The 727 CG problem didn’t happen except at maximum flap extension. Flaps change the whole aerodynamic picture and can effectively shift the CG. If you stay away from the stall there was no problem.

                I can remember getting checked out in a Cessna 150 and as I turned on final I put down full flaps (in spite of being told to hold off on full down). Oops, she just about wanted to stop flying and I had to drag it to the runway with a lot of added power. Those big wings and flaps that wont quit are not a part of the picture on the low wing designs I was used to flying.

                Well, that’s why flight instructors were invented. But those Cessnas are a good airplane, tough and relatively forgiving of dunderhead pilots. The only thing I didn’t like is that big wing that came down blocking your view in the direction you’re turning.

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        Roy Hogue

        Just a note to say that while I’m loading files I have the opening debate statements of the Democrats in my ears. It sounds like ignorance debating stupidity to determine which is the wise man. It’s almost all aimed at destroying Donald John Trump.

        :-(

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    graham dunton

    This may interest many,
    The New Gas Revolution That Could Make Renewable Energy Obsolete
    • Date: 31/07/19
    • James Conca, Forbes
    Link via GWPF
    https://www.thegwpf.com/this-new-gas-revolution-that-could-make-renewable-energy-obsolete/

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      Jonesy

      At first glance I feel there is a couple of free lunches not included in the conversation. Oxygen is not a cheap process to extract from air, not to mention the capacity of the plant even to supply a 50kw unit. CO2 extraction at a superheated state can sheds its energy to other processes till it gets down to a manageable pressure and temperature for either sequestration or downstream use. Smells like a free lunch?

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      Geoffrey Williams

      Forget it Graham it is just not feasable.
      Too many issues including seqestuestrat.
      GeoffW

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      Latus Dextro

      I read the same article Graham and then reviewed the bio of the writer, James Conca, self professed scientivist.
      Unfortunately, there appears no immediate link to contact him and ask, by how much the ‘sequestered’ CO2 will change the global mean temperature anomaly, and what is the cost benefit analysis to the planet for this dT.
      His truncated bio below indicates some serious longstanding SJW eco-pedigree. How any self-respecting scientist can hold that level of cognitive dissonance is beyond me, which is why I consider there is the possibility that he is more scientivist.

      “I am a Trustee of the Herbert M. Parker Foundation, Adjunct at WSU, an Affiliate Scientist at LANL and consult on strategic planning for the DOE, EPA/State environmental agencies, and industry including companies that own nuclear, hydro, wind farms, large solar arrays, coal and gas plants. I also consult for EPA/State environmental agencies and industry on clean-up of heavy metals from soil and water. For over 25 years I have been a member of Sierra Club, Greenpeace, the NRDC, the Environmental Defense Fund and many others, as well as professional societies including the America Nuclear Society, the American Chemical Society, the Geological Society of America and the American Association of Petroleum Geologists”.

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        ivan

        Ah, one of the ivory tower dwellers that need to get out and do some real work in the real world.

        How many time must it be proven that CCS is totally a non viable system that only adds to the cost of power generated and they appear to have forgotten the power requirement of removing nitrogen from the air to give them oxygen to burn with the gas.

        The article leaves more questions than it answers like all these ‘save the planet scams.

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        graham dunton

        Latus Dextro- good work,

        What is the point of CO2 sequestration, when the world needs more of it?

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      Graeme No.3

      The Drayton cycle using high pressure CO2 as the working ‘fluid’ is slightly less efficient (59%) than Closed Cycle gas turbines (62%).
      Using oxygen pushes up the cost.
      What happens to the CO2 from combustion? It cannot stay in the closed cycle so the cost of sequestion must be added.

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    TdeF

    I have been puzzled at the passion for Climate Change and the vitriol of some of the singers, film stars, comedians and entertainers against Donald Trump and their support for no borders and the extreme generosity of other people, the American taxpayers.

    However they also have one thing in common. They dropped out of high school. Enormous talent and drive but often from very broken families they attach themselves to causes and believe everything they are told. Perhaps massive overcompensation for little formal education. So Streisand, Cher, Midler and more are the voice of Hollywood and an echo chamber for the Democrats. Di Caprio seems to be more mature than the rest. Of course he is now being attacked for not having a female director since 1995. That is Hollywood turning on Leonardo.

    Man Made Global Warming aka Climate Change is just one of their popular causes. The other is a vitriolic hatred of Donald Trump. Then you get all the ‘Woke’ movies with a female Thor, a lesbian Supergirl and even a female James Bond and ‘Metoo’ which is incredibly hypocritical for Hollywood with their earth shaking discovery in 2018 of the ‘casting couch’. As for open borders, even Cher has protested that they are inviting millions of aliens into LA while tens of thousands of existing people are sleeping rough in the city. Maybe she Woke up a little, but not for long.

    They are actors posing as moralists. The politically active parties though are the endless Google, Facebook and Amazon executives from Silicon Valley. Even here in Australia we have the CEO of BHP Billiton lecturing the world on the damage he is doing to the environment with dreaded CO2. You could bottle the hypocrisy.

    What we have now is the Woke MeToo Climate Change Global Warming LGBTIQ Open Borders Anti Racism Anti White AntiFA movement. Where would humanity be without moral posturing by the dropouts of Hollywood?

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      Yonniestone

      The big question over this latest climate junket will be not about the private jets/vehicles they use but will the woke people of the planet condemn their actions?
      Because (and lets be absolutely clear) these are the same people that in their heart of hearts believe that any extra CO2 humans produce will destroy earths atmosphere and thus all life on it, yes those same people that have screamed abuse, made public slurs, encouraged violence, wanted to tattoo, destroyed careers, fixed elections, endangered/taken lives, suppressed liberties and generally act like petulant children, should be directing all this towards every last one of these ‘A listers’ and their reckless behaviour.

      But instead we see and hear nothing, why?, because the very mindset that allows the above to occur is conditioned not to question their masters.

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        OriginalSteve

        Mislead and broken people with money and influence and just people at yhe end of yhe day.

        The sad thing is, evil dresses up in a nice suit to mislead these people, but its still evil….

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      Latus Dextro

      TdeF, I’m sure it’s not lost on you that this monstrously insecure, dysfunctional, successful group with their Hollyweird, the Goolag and sundry hangers-on ‘elite’ identity exist in a symbiotic relationship with the MSM. Group fiesta such as the one amount to little more than mutual virtue signalling eco-masturbation. In every sense they are distasteful, wasteful, nauseating, squandering displays of blatant vulgarity. Seriously, they could all be doing something practical and useful like planting trees or picking up rubbish, faeces and needles in downtown LA, San Francisco, Portland or Seattle, of helping out the typhus ridden homeless in the same inner city areas. Instead, their fragile, brittle egos are ventilated by the MSM in an orgy of self-righteous and hedonistic addiction.
      It all looks, feels and sounds very, very unsustainable. And by that I don’t mean jet A1. I am referring to the moral and spiritual bankruptcy. I think the human soul can only take so much abuse.

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        Latus Dextro

        I inadvertently omitted Baltimore from the list of DEMORAT infested cities. The top 10 rat infested dumps are held by DEMORATs.
        Oddly though, Al Sharpton (Baltimore) wasn’t invited to the Goolag fest.

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      Bill in Oz

      I never cease to be amazed at the droll stupidities
      And dopiness of the USA
      Glitterati & fabulati.
      Me I’m firmly Australian
      I do not watch their
      Poncey films or videos or youtube clips
      Or read their magazine articles or read their books
      ( Are there any ? )
      There is nothing like shunning
      For helping anyone to realise
      Their insignificance
      Even if they go to “Goggle Camps”
      In Sicily !

      PS When will we here in Oz
      Attend to the monopolistic local subsidiaries
      Of Facecook & Goggle ?

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    It’s disappointing to see how political bias has enabled otherwise smart people at Google to be so thoroughly fooled by the climate science deception perpetuated by the IPCC in its pursuit of the policy goals of the UNFCCC which are openly hostile to the economic system that enabled a company like Google to exist in the first place.

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      Global Cooling

      They are not fooled. If physical transportation is destroyed, there more place for data communication. 20M$ is small investment for the leading monopoly in this area.

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        I worked for Google and can assure you they don’t think like that. Political bias does play a big role where their engineering operations are mostly in places where far left politics is the norm and many of their employees are fresh out of elite universities having been well sheltered from reality. I’ve seen it over and over where even the smartest people can be fooled about an objective truth when the lie they’re being fed confirms a subjective political bias.

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          Kinky Keith

          Hi CO2isn’t,

          “where even the smartest people can be fooled”.

          Aren’t these people just looking for a home and will adopt or conform to the beliefs of the group they aspire to?

          I think we assume that humans are individual rational beings when mostly the response mechanism is that of conformity.
          KK

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            OriginalSteve

            i think too people in thier 20s are keen to be identified in a group. The sad thing is, leftism is disfunctional, so as these people progress in life they take thier nirmalized disfunctional behaviour with them. All the horrors of the 20th century come mostly from the Left, so now we have to fight the Tech Left as well…..

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              AndyG55

              “nirmalized”

              I like it !

              A new word, but it has a certain “meaning” to it. ;-)

              Can anyone invent a precise meaning for the word “nirm / nirmal”

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                AndyG55

                How about:

                nirmal: non-thinking compliance with a dysfunctional societal meme, for the sake of feeling that you “fit in”

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                Greg in NZ

                NIRMAL = (a)nother ignorant ranting moralising a(hole) lunatic

                and how about WMTCCGWLGBTIQetcOBARAWAF for TdeF’s

                Woke MeToo Climate Change Global Warming LGBTIQ Open Borders Anti Racism Anti White AntiFA

                kids would have fun texting that – spellcheck would be like, WTF?

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                Kinky Keith

                Originally derived from “squirm”.

                When people squirm in daytime they’re said to “dirm”.
                The nocturnal version is to “nirm”.
                Did we really need that? :-)

                But still, it makes more sense than global warming theory which decrees that All true science can only originate from within a Giant multiphase Computer.

                KK

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                OriginalSteve

                You also have “Nermal, the worlds cutest kitten”, in the Garfield comics….

                FYI , my “new” phone ( and old samsung “beer coaster” that is semi indestructable …well its survived the drop test a few times ) has a much smaller keyboard, so its a real pain to type with….and my sense of humour isnt being assisted by it….

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          Latus Dextro

          I’ve seen it over and over where even the smartest people can be fooled about an objective truth when the lie they’re being fed confirms a subjective political bias.

          Dare I say, not one of them would be able to articulate the counter narrative. In other words, they would have suspended any critical thought or judgement in favour of acceptance and blending with the political groupthink.

          It always surpises me that people who claim to be smart appear as vulnerable to confirmation bias and manipulation as those apparently less well endowed with critical thinking skills or nous (which are not necessarily dependent on education). There are plenty of street savvy, smart, hard nosed property developers who can handily spot a virtue signalling fraudster. There’s one in the WH right now, thank God.

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          Global Cooling

          Everyone knows how the beneficiaries think. Only Trump can say things that challenge the billionaires. You know the mob within the company. You know how you are allowed to think.

          Someone may believe what the propaganda says. Majority is just silent to avoid the revenge of the big brother. You are more silent if you get paid for agreeing.

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    Curious George

    Is this a new incarnation of the Club of Rome, known for precise predictions?

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    MichaelinBrisbane

    I’m aware I’m off topic, but can’t help remarking that at the moment South Australia is drawing power from its batteries while Victoria is re-charging theirs. A waste of time and energy for both states.
    Also noticed that over the last few days there’s been precious little wind spinning those modern-day bird chopping boomerangs. They have been down as low as 4% of their name-plate capacity. This morning they are peaking at 20%. Whoopee!

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      Kinky Keith

      :-) modern boomerangs.

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      OriginalSteve

      All the renewables nonsense does is force reliance on other states for power- because SA and Vic broke thier power supply on purpose so co dependence would happen.

      In the demented world of leftism, any strong independence is to be crushed, and pathetic disfunctional co dependence put in its place……

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    Ruairi

    The Earth-saving climate-change sort,
    Fly their jets to a private resort,
    Where this choice elite few,
    Tell the world what to do,
    As they hang out for days and cavort.

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      Greg in NZ

      Doubleplusgood as usual, Ruairi. Having deleted the misnomer élite from my word-bank yonks ago, using the moniker ‘pond scum’ instead, I find your rhyming ‘n’ timing still flows: “Where this choice pond scum few…”

      pond scum (noun)
      a mass of algae forming a green film on the surface of stagnant water
      informal • a person or thing perceived as worthless or contemptible

      Hmm, Sicily eh, island of earthquakes and volcanoes… be a shame if Mt Etna decided to put on a little extra fireworks to show these pond scum plankers just who da big boss really is. Cin cin! BOOM BOOM!!

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        glen Michel

        Ahh yes Greg in NZ,I might just be down Salerno way with a bottle of rustica Barbera – or something else that Sicilian tenders of the rich soils produce.Reflect on what the FOOLS are doing.

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    Mal

    As the Idiocene progresses, the new Idiocracy is emerging from the shadows.
    Now we know who the enemy of the people are
    Power and money to control the masses

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      OriginalSteve

      We could break the whole globalist stranglehold by developing cheap hydrogen tech……hard to tax, hard to control, but energy independence for all…

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    Another Ian

    But don’t you worry about that – ask Snopes

    “Fact Check”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/07/31/fact-check/#comments

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    Mick S

    Yes indeed MichaelinBrisbane,here in mid North,Sth Ozz,not only is there a lack of wind to drive the turbines that grace the landscape,there is little sun also.These conditions will persist for several days yet in the coldest part of the year.Hopefully,when the “big battery” near here is drained,there is some spare power in the Eastern states we could get by on.

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      Graeme No.3

      Mick S:

      No problem, Sth Ozz ** can just start up the diesels – if someone has remembered to order the fuel.

      And that “BIG battery” would power the whole place for about 4 minutes, so it is doing precious little to prop up Sth Ozz.

      ** Sth Ozz – I like it, sort of summarises the politicians and bureaucracy as missing something ( rational thinking, maybe ).

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      joseph

      Maybe Google could organise their next big get together to be up in the mid north of Sth Ozz.

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    el gordo

    Memo to Harry

    ‘To make any difference to planet Earth, you and your family really must stop taking those private jets to Jamaica, the luxury safaris in Botswana, the weddings in Montego Bay, the impromptu winter getaways in Tromsø, the “babymoons” in Australia and New York, the downtime on Mediterranean islands and the quick flights to Fiji. Not to mention the ecological cost of living in all those grand houses and palaces or going on the royal tours.’

    John Vidal/Guardian

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      Graeme No.3

      Another virtue signaller. I have no great opinion of the Royal Family but I doubt that they are stupid enough to read The Guardian.

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      PeterPetrum

      I really liked Harry, until I found out that he believed in what his wonky father believed. He and his new film star lefty wife are now moving in the exalted circles of the lefty elite, including Obummer and the Hollywood world. And he was such a good soldier – pity he married Megan – I think she has been the catalyst for his downfall.

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    David Maddison

    At the 2007 climate conference they ran out of parking for all the private jets.

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/noel-sheppard/2007/11/23/not-enough-parking-private-jets-going-un-climate-conference

    And didn’t Al Gore bring his private jet to Australia on his recent partly taxpayer funded evangelising tour?

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      Maptram

      I recall in November 2007, just after the Rudd Government got elected, Al Gore received his Nobel Prize in Norway, and there was a climate conference in Bali. It seemed like a couple of days later Al Gore was in Bali for the climate conference. Did he get from Norway to Bali by some carbon neutral transport?

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    Dennis

    O/T

    The Australian

    Greenland ice melt forces sea levels up.

    Behind a paywall so I cannot show the article here.

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      Kinky Keith

      How long does it take for the rise to reach us here.

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      ivan

      What Greenland ice melt? Last heard the glaciers were increasing ice mass.

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      Bill in Oz

      Dennis it seems the Australian also has it’s ( compulsory ) share of Greenists
      Ready to spout their propaganda.
      If this ‘threat’ bothers you
      Take a look here :
      https://electroverse.net/european-heatwave-poised-to-melt-greenland-no-huge-spike-means-the-ice-sheet-is-now-touching-its-lowest-summer-melt-in-years/

      It ain’t happening mate
      Just more B S
      To keep the fearful believers in line !

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      Graeme No.3

      Dennis:

      A photo of an iceberg and the claim that the melting could raise the sea level by 0.5mm. There are a number of comments none I saw being favourable.
      I commented that signs should be installed at all beaches warning short people not to enter the water.
      Also, re the iceberg, that 2200 years after Archimedes it might be time for Climate Alarmists to catch up on some Science.

      It was published but Al did the calculations and pointed out that the (impressive tonnage) ice melt would amount to an increase of 2.8 microns. (For those who don’t use microns regularly, he adds the helpful advice that would be one hundredth of the diameter of a human hair.

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      el gordo

      A meandering jetstream (a global cooling signal) is causing the melt, but ….

      ‘Amid an ongoing heat wave, new data show the Greenland ice sheet is in the middle of its biggest melt season in recorded history. It’s the latest worrying signal climate change is accelerating far beyond the worst fears of even climate scientists.

      ‘The record-setting heat wave that sweltered northern Europe last week has moved north over the critically vulnerable Greenland ice sheet, triggering temperatures this week that are as much as 25 to 30 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal.’

      Rolling Stone

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      PeterPetrum

      Don’t worry -according to the “experts” the melt will result in a 0.5mm rise. But someone pointed out that they got their maths wrong -it will be only 0.0012mm rise.

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        Graeme No.3

        PP:

        Another pointed out that it meant a rise of 2.8 microns. But as the oceans isn’t level** how would we ever know.

        ** e.g. the sea level on the west coast of Panama is usually a metre higher than that on the East coast, but the difference can get greater, El niño etc. Also the Earth isn’t truly spherical, so the sea at the Equator can be kilometres more distant from the centre of the Earth than that in, say, Disko bay. And differences in geomagnetic strength also cause “lumps” in the ocean.

        And for those who think things are getting worse I suggest you locate Roman ports in England and how close they are to being swamped by the rising sea level.

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          Graeme No.3

          Meanwhile the inhabitants of London will be quaking in their boots about 0.0012mm rise in sea level, which will be really noticable in the Thames with its tidal range of 6 metres.
          The Watergate (or Traitor’s gate) at the Tower of London will only take a very shallow draught boat at low tide. But that entrance is a recent addition, in 1285 A.D.

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    Bill in Oz

    Has anyone else noticed that the Goggle mob
    Are attending their ‘renewables revival” meeting
    In Sicily ?
    Why Sicily, the home of the mafia, corruption
    And poverty for so many generations.

    And then I was reminded about Europe’s
    Recent weather by Multiverse web site.
    Hail storms & snow in France in July
    For the Tour De France.
    And extremely cold Summer
    For much of Europe.

    Clearly the Goggle hosts
    Have arranged that no cold summer weather
    Can cool their fearful ardour
    Or interrupt their invitation only acolyte revival meetings
    By holding it in Sicily
    Where No cold will penetrate.

    I wonder what the local mafiosi
    Are being paid to ‘look after’
    These Goggle guests ?

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    Terry

    Taxing CO2 causes “Climate Change™”

    To “solve” “Climate Change™”, we must implement a ‘Hypocrisy Tax’.

    It’s an elegant solution. Not only does it prevent “gobal warmening” but it ensures we don’t have to listen to these tedious bores lecture on matters they know nothing about.

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    Greg in NZ

    Righto, gotta love ya and leave ya’ll and drive out to the West Coast (Bethells Beach) where Wardrobe & Makeup girls are going to dress me in villager’s rags and splash Magic Dirt™ all over me so I can run around the hills (with other underpaid workers) for a silly foreign TV series. Hey, ya gotta make a (part-time) living somehow!

    We’ve been advised to bring thermal underwear, warm socks and a warm jacket/raincoat as it’s VERY COLD on set. Nope, no sign of cAGW or CCC or even UHI here today, mind you down South she’s a different story: snow, beautiful snow; deep, cold and fluffy:

    http://www.arthurspass.com/index.php?page=248

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      Latus Dextro

      for a silly foreign TV series

      Is it done to the background strains of bluegrass?

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        Greg in NZ

        No banjos, nor squealing pigs, were hurt in tonight’s production, LD. There were some sweet, young, buxom wenches however, as is par for the course.

        Don’t watch TV so haven’t a clue what the final product looks like (admittedly I youtubed a few Spartacus episodes where yours truly was slaughtering Romans and getting bawdy with buxom wenches, as is par for the course). This one’s a remake of that 70s/80s kids’ show, Legend of Monkey, which my neighbours in Maroochydore, QLD used to watch incessantly in the 80s – beer, AC/DC and Monkey – sheesh!

        There’s another series but that’s a Jazz one set in the good old B/W days – as opposed to kids’ fantasy / special-fx nonsense – so not a lot of bluegrass in that neither. Perchance you are thinking of The Luminaries?

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    beowulf

    Thunberg news.

    Saint Greta has been seen wearing an ANTIFA T-shirt, but she says she only borrowed it from a friend. So now we know she has “friends” who support ANTIFA. She was unaware that it “can apparently to some be linked to a violent movement”. She is also donating to Extinction Rebellion all income from her upcoming song. That’ll be a ripper I’m sure. #1,000 on the Top 100. Put it on the Must Get list. The redeeming thing is that Greta is unlikely to be the next Beatles and the royalties will be underwhelming.

    This girl is way beyond a joke now — she is fast becoming dangerous. More and more extreme groups are riding on her saintly coat tails. Those who pull this puppet’s strings and ply her daily with propaganda are becoming more transparent in their actions.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/07/31/climate-kid-greta-slammed-wearing-far-left-extremist-antifa-shirt/

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    Gbees

    What was that other gathering of so-called intellectuals and rich power brokers who were/are working to tell us all how we should live? Oh that’s right … the Club Of Rome. No thanks.

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    pat

    Sky UK had piece on this week which ended with emphasis on the fact US couldn’t exit Paris until the day after the 2020 Presidential election, and suggested the withdrawal would depend on Trump winning. gave the impression it was vital he loses.

    my argument is, if Trump lost, he would still be in office until Jan 2021, so the withdrawal could go ahead. of course, there’s the other argument that, if a Democrat becomes President, they can reverse the withdrawal.

    the Sky reporter below – btw this is not the piece I reference above:

    LinkedIn: Hannah Thomas-Peter, Climate Change Correspondent at Sky News, United States
    July 2019 – Present New York
    Sky New York Correspondent:
    June 2010 – Present etc
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-thomas-peter-429a68116

    31 Jul: Sky News Analysis: United Nations offers hope in the fight against climate change
    The organisation’s secretary general Antonio Guterres has declared war on the issue, stating that the status quo is suicide.
    By Hannah Thomas-Peter, climate change correspondent
    I’ve only been climate change correspondent at Sky News for a few weeks and already the sand feels like an increasingly tempting place in which to bury my head.
    Not a day goes by without an alarming headline.
    EXAMPLES

    Or maybe the final straw for you is that Donald Trump, leader of one of the planet’s worst polluters, doesn’t even believe that human activity contributes significantly to global warming.
    PIC CAPTION: Donald Trump could pull the US out of the Paris Climate Agreement completely if he wins in 2020.

    If he wins in 2020 he’s going to fully withdraw the US from the Paris Climate Agreement…
    It can be easy to give up.
    But we can’t. We don’t have a choice. None at all. Tempting as it may be, the warming sand is not an option.
    And so I find myself casting around for something to anchor hope to…
    It’s there in the great groundswell of grassroots movements around the world demanding political action.
    It is there in the increasing scalability and falling prices of renewable energy solutions.

    It’s there in the US, believe it or not, where the Green New Deal – a collective mobilisation on a scale last seen in World War Two to transition the US off fossil fuels – has actually become a key policy pledge of many of the Democratic presidential candidates…
    But most of all, and I never thought I would ever write this, I find hope in the United Nations…
    There is no other organisation on Earth like the United Nations, and no challenge so global as the climate crisis…

    The UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) released the landmark report in 2018 that suggested we have 12 years to bring about the urgent and unprecedented action needed to limit warming to 1.5C.

    VIDEOS: SKY NEWS – A NEW CLIMATE: 549 EPISODES 120 HOURS 59 MINUTES
    (INCLUDES “PRINCE HARRY SUGGESTS SMALLER FAMILIES SAVE THE PLANET”)

    This provided inspiration for millions of school children around the world to go on strike, pressuring their governments to listen and act…
    https://news.sky.com/story/united-nations-offers-hope-in-the-fight-against-climate-change-11774504

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    pat

    31 Jul: Vice: How to Radicalize Your Parents on Climate Change
    It’s possible to change someone’s mind on climate change—if you’re related to them.
    by Shayla Love; illustrated by Cathryn Virginia
    This year, on Easter Sunday, Robert Possnett was arrested in London during a protest with Extinction Rebellion, a group that uses nonviolent civil disobedience to raise awareness for climate change. It wasn’t the first time the 59-year-old father of three had been arrested for protesting, and it won’t be the last. His trouble with the law means he can’t travel to the U.S. since he has a criminal record, but he’s so committed to the cause that he doesn’t care. He has a court date in October and it’s likely he will go to jail.

    “What else am I going to do with my life?” Possnett said. “This is the biggest fight we’ve ever had. It’s much bigger than World War II. There’s nothing else I can do with my life but to make as much noise and stink as possible.”…

    In a recent study in Nature Climate Change (LINK), Danielle Lawson, a postdoctoral student at NC State University, and her colleagues found that putting middle-school children in a class about climate change could influence their parent’s views on the subject. The effects were the strongest on conservative fathers—significant because conservative white men have been previously shown to have the lowest levels of climate concern…
    https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/9kxep3/how-to-radicalize-your-parents-on-climate-change

    Twitter page: Shayla Love – top tweet:
    I asked behavioral psychologists how to best manipulate… uh I mean… *kindly talk to* the olds in your life about getting more involved in climate crisis.
    6h ago
    LINK VICE (different headings)
    How to Manipuate Your Parents Into Becoming Radical Environmentalists
    You have a lot more power over them than you think.
    FROM 4 REPLIES:
    Brad: Oh brainwashing the youth.

    RogerDis: Behavior psychologists & psychiatric specialists already figured it out. Forget about convincing climate change deniers, we’ll just create a man-made #opioid epidemic, WITHHOLD #pain medication from citizens we used as #HumanGuineaPigs & win, win, less people, less litigation.

    Stuart Hale: Get them to stop driving – win/win
    https://twitter.com/shayla__love

    LinkedIn: Shayla Love, Staff Writer at VICE.com covering science, health, climate change, and drugs, Brooklyn, NY
    Shayla Love has a master’s degree from Columbia University in science, environment, and medicine journalism.
    Her writing has appeared in The Washington Post, Mosaic, The Boston Globe, Stat, Vice, The Kenyon Review, The Atlantic, Harper’s Magazine, Gothamist and BKLYNR, and republished in BBC Future, The Guardian, NY Magazine, Scientific American and more.
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/shayla-love-65a80797

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      OriginalSteve

      hmmmmm…..

      “What else am I going to do with my life?” Possnett said. “This is the biggest fight we’ve ever had. It’s much bigger than World War II. There’s nothing else I can do with my life but to make as much noise and stink as possible.”…”

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    toorightmate

    I hope the Google Picnic had the Drongo (alias Peter Fitzroy) as a keynote speaker. He knows a lot about nothing.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    So this is upsetting because
    (a) It is google
    (b) rich people with private jets are using them
    (c) they are more left leaning than most on this blog
    (d) it’s in the middle of a working week.
    (e) envy

    I did a list to help BillinOZ as longer sentences not for him

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      AndyG55

      Nirmal PF doesn’t understand the concept of HYPOCRICY !!!!

      But then, PF doesn’t understand most concepts.

      “The three-day event will focus on fighting climate change “

      All those jets..

      How DUMB to you have to be, to be nirmal PF !!

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      AndyG55

      Only person with basic comprehension issue IS YOU, nirmal PF

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      AndyG55

      nirmal: non-thinking compliance with a dysfunctional societal meme, for the sake of feeling that you “fit in”.

      Applies to every jetsetter on this Google knees-up/soirée and anyone who CANNOT see the total HYPOCRISY of the whole AGW scam.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      So envy it is.
      For all you or anyone knows, they could be saying that climate change is a hoax.

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        AndyG55

        Seriously PF…

        You really CANNOT allow yourself to see the UTTER HYPOCRISY of flying hundreds of private jets to a “SAVE THE EARTH FROM CO2″ conference, can you. ! WOW !!!

        No envy. PITY almost, that they cannot see themselves.

        I would NOT like to have to live a LIE all my life, like you seem content to do.

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        AndyG55

        “The three-day event will focus on fighting climate change

        PF says , “they could be saying that climate change is a hoax”

        AS IF !!!

        Why do you continue to HIDE and RUN-AWAY from the truth, even when its right in front of you.

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          Peter Fitzroy

          That is the event’s theme, not necessarily the views of the individuals attending, who obviously, as they are using private jets, hold views which are not in alignment with that purported theme of “fighting climate change”

          Sorry for the long sentence

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            AndyG55

            DENIAL of truth, the ONLY way you can hide from your little mind.

            You KNOW that it will the climate alarmista glitterati that attend in their private jet.

            Obarmy, DiCapio, Katie, little Harry,… all brain-numbed “believers”

            You KNOW they are total HYPOCRITES.

            I bet not one climate REALIST got invited.

            Stop LYING to yourself, or do you have no shame or self-worth. !

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            AndyG55

            “Stars there also include Harry Styles, Orlando Bloom, Diane von Furstenberg and Barry Diller, who arrived on their enormous $200 million yacht Eos, which has both sails and two 2,300-horsepower diesel engines.”

            A LEFTIST ALARMISTA load of TOTAL HYPOCRITES !!

            I bet they all have get-together to tell all us “plebs” how to live a low-carbon life-style. ;-)

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            el gordo

            ‘ … not necessarily the views of the individuals attending …’

            The underlying paradigm is that CO2 causes global warming, none of those attending believe otherwise.

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      toorightmate

      Speak of the Devil and in walks his son – the Drongo.

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    pat

    31 Jul: UK Sun: C02-OGLE Hypocrite eco-warriors including Leonardo DiCaprio and Harry Styles arrive at Google camp in private jets, superyachts and Maseratis
    by Grant Rollings
    TREE-HUGGING celebrities arrived by private jet and superyachts to attend a Google Camp focused on climate change.
    The hypocritical VIP guests were then ferried to the three-day event at an exclusive Italian resort in gas-guzzling Maseratis…
    The tech giant’s seventh annual jolly in Sicily was attended by vocal green campaigners Leonardo DiCaprio, Stella McCartney and Katy Perry. Coldplay singer
    Chris Martin, a supporter of The CarbonNeutral Company, performed at night amid brightly lit ruins…

    An insider said: “I’ve never seen such a pampered bunch. Everything is laid on for them. It’s so extravagant.
    “They just don’t seem to be aware that they’re the ones burning huge amounts of fossil fuels. They turn up with unnecessary entourages in helicopters or fast cars and then preach about saving the world.”…
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9628260/eco-warriors-private-jets-google-camp/

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    Another Ian

    Sounds about right

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=camp

    Also remember the term “As camp as a row of country dunnys”

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    FijiDave

    You guys yakking aviation bring back memories of sitting in an Anson as a kid pretending I was on a bombing run. I think my first flight was probably in an Auster with my father before I was old enough to remember.

    Dad’s list of aircraft flown as noted in his log:

    Aiglet (Auster)
    Anson
    Audax
    Audax (T)
    Auster
    Autocar (Auster)
    Autocrat (Auster)
    Avro Tutor
    C47 Douglas (NZ3501. The first in NZ)
    Cessna 180
    Commando
    D.H. Rapide
    DH82
    DH89A
    DH89B
    Harrow
    Hart (S)
    Hart (T)
    Hudson
    Lancaster
    Liberator (as passenger Prestwick-Goose Bay-Montreal)
    Lodestar
    Magister
    Mosquito VI
    Oxford
    Piper
    Piper PA18A
    Piper PA22
    Proctor
    Walrus
    Wellington
    Wellington I
    Wellington Mk III
    Whitley
    Whitley I
    Whitley II
    Whitley IV

    His favourite was the Mosquito.

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      Kinky Keith

      As a kid I would occasionally ride my bike over to the Broadmeadow Aerodrome in the middle of Newcastle then. It was O.K. to wander into the hangar and check out the aircraft.
      One of them was a Dragon Rapide.
      Later on a visit to New Guinea I flew in a DC3, Britain Norman Islander , Fokker Friendship and on a brief stop inland saw the most amazing STOL aircraft come in, it seemed to hang in the air, a “Helo” . Much later at a small local airshow there was a similar capability shown by a Feissler Storche, a replica only.
      Then a very long time ago there were the hulks of two Catalinas to climb though, just dumped on the shore of lake Macquarie. The local Sabre tragedy etc.

      Enough.
      KK

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        Greg in NZ

        1st overseas flight was in a DC3 to Norfolk Island aged 13 (winter school holiday family trip). My lifelong addiction to window-seats had begun (as well as a short-lived dream of becoming a pilot – money and maths, my two eternal shortcomings).

        Still have the faded photos I took as we approached the island… sea, vast deep blue sea, then sheer vertical cliffs, grass runway, touchdown… was like landing on the summit of a volcano rearing up out of the Tasman Sea (precisely, Watson!). Next one was Fiji in a Fokker Friendship 3 years later (the taste for foreign travel was budding) then at 20 it was a one-way ticket to Brisbane in one of those fancy new jet airliners which offered free drinks and a smoking area.

        Having painted advertising logos on friends’ commercial parapente wings in Queenstown in the 1990s, they’d often take me up for an early morning tandem-flight off Bob’s Peak – whoah freaking awesome. Another buddy flew the Drummond (?) aerobatic biplane and if he had a spare seat he’d throw me in up-front with the solo tourist and whoah! Feel the buzz… these days I’m happy carving down the sides of mountains on my (hardboot/racing) snowboard or cruising the streets on my electric skateboard – never too old to slide in style.

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          FijiDave

          Living life to the full! Good memories!

          I think you live where I was born. Lived at Frankton in the 50s. There’s a large photo of the old man in the coffee place in the airport and a street (Place) named after him near the airport.

          His first flight to Norfolk Is was 14 May 1943 in DC3.

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            Greg in NZ

            Did live for a while in the house on the corner of Frankton (SH6) & Hansen Rd (leading up to Lake Johnson) opposite the newish Events Centre on Joe O’Connell Drive. Arthur’s Point, Arrow Junction, Arrowtown were my favoured rental spots, far enough out of town (Queenstown) to ignore the rowdy drunken hoons yet close enough for work and/or socialising. A buddy’s had a place in Wilmot Ave for years – directly under the flight-path – nothing like a BBQ & beer as jets ROARRR overhead.

            But that was years ago: after 2 decades living in the mountains (US/NZ) I needed to get back to sea level and warm(ish) saltwater again. Besides, I’d come to comprehend global cooling so the closer to the equator, the better. And as for Norfolk, I was there 30 years after your dad – probably flew in the same DC3.

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    Roy Hogue

    Google, one of the most common words in the lexicon of the computer user, has turned out to be quite a menace to honest elections here in the states. When you are the major search engine in the world the opportunities you have to steer users to the point of view they want you to have is almost unstoppable.

    According to a fired employee they are dedicated to seeing to it that Donald Trump loses in 2020. I can easily imagine the content that attracts such honest and worthy citizens as DeCaprio. Ugly stuff.

    This next year will be something to remember either for a Trump victory or the election of one of those ridiculous Democrat presidential candidates.

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