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    Travis T. Jones

    The Day the Music Burned

    The fire that swept across the backlot of Universal Studios Hollywood on Sunday, June 1, 2008, began early that morning, in New England. At 4:43 a.m., a security guard at the movie studio and theme park saw flames rising from a rooftop on the set known as New England Street, a stretch of quaint Colonial-style buildings where small-town scenes were filmed for motion pictures and television shows.

    Among the incinerated Decca masters were recordings by titanic figures in American music: Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Al Jolson, Bing Crosby, Ella Fitzgerald, Judy Garland.

    The tape masters for Billie Holiday’s Decca catalog were most likely lost in total.

    The Decca masters also included recordings by such greats as Louis Jordan and His Tympany Five and Patsy Cline.

    The fire most likely claimed most of Chuck Berry’s Chess masters and multitrack masters, a body of work that constitutes Berry’s greatest recordings.

    The destroyed Chess masters encompassed nearly everything else recorded for the label and its subsidiaries, including most of the Chess output of Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf, Willie Dixon, Bo Diddley, Etta James, John Lee Hooker, Buddy Guy and Little Walter.

    Also very likely lost were master tapes of the first commercially released material by Aretha Franklin, recorded when she was a young teenager performing in the church services of her father, the Rev. C.L. Franklin, who made dozens of albums for Chess and its sublabels.

    Virtually all of Buddy Holly’s masters were lost in the fire.

    Most of John Coltrane’s Impulse masters were lost, as were masters for treasured Impulse releases by Ellington, Count Basie, Coleman Hawkins, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, Art Blakey, Sonny Rollins, Charles Mingus, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Sun Ra, Albert Ayler, Pharoah Sanders and other jazz greats.

    Also apparently destroyed were the masters for dozens of canonical hit singles, including Bill Haley and His Comets’ “Rock Around the Clock,” Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats’ “Rocket 88,” Bo Diddley’s “Bo Diddley/I’m A Man,” Etta James’s “At Last,” the Kingsmen’s “Louie Louie” and the Impressions’ “People Get Ready.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/the-day-the-music-burned/ar-AACIbo2

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      Chad

      WhIlst the loss of these Original Masters is a total tragedy, can we hope that there were “copies” in some format ,somewhere, such that all is not gone forever ?

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        Travis T. Jones

        “Today a stupefying bounty of recordings is available on streaming audio services, floating free of the CDs, LPs and other delivery systems that once brought them to audiences.

        In fact, vast gaps remain between the historical corpus of recorded music and that which has been digitized.

        Gerald Seligman, executive director of the National Recording Preservation Foundation, a nonprofit organization affiliated with the Library of Congress, estimated in 2013 that less than 18 percent of commercial music archives had been transferred and made available through streaming and download services.

        It’s impossible to itemize, precisely, what music was on each tape or hard drive in the vault, which had no comprehensive inventory.

        It cannot be said exactly how many recordings were original masters or what type of master each recording was.”

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          yarpos

          The brutal side of me says , if they didnt care enough even to do an inventory then why do they care of its gone? much gets lost over history , the world rolls on

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      Ah! Charles Anderson Berry. Man, what a talent.

      At the height of his career, he was jailed for a violation of the Mann Act, and he served 18 Months.

      During that time in jail, he wrote some wonderful music. When he got out in late 63, The British Invasion was in full swing, and he thought that maybe his time was over. He found out that most of those emerging UK bands listed his name at the top of their influences in their own brand of music.

      Taking his songs he wrote in Jail, he paid a sort of homage to those bands with the title of the album, St. Louis to Liverpool.

      Two of my favourite songs of his are on this one huge album.

      The first is perhaps one of the happiest songs ever written, You Never Can Tell, also referred to as Teenage Wedding or C’est La Vie. While Chuck was renowned for his guitar, this song sounds so much better with the honky tonk piano being played.

      The second song uses the music from an old American folk song, Wabash Cannonball, first made a hit by The (original) Carter Family back in the 20s. Chuck reworked the music a little, and added his own lyrics. He borrowed an Atlas from the jail library, and traced out the trip from Norfolk in Virginia to LA, and worked it all into the lyrics of this great song, Promised Land. (in 1972, Dave Edmunds had a Top Five single with his version, but it was only a hit here in Australia)

      I have some more text and both songs at one of my Sunday Music Posts at my home site at the following link if any of you want to listen to these two wonderful songs.

      Sunday Music – You Never Can Tell

      Tony.

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        Sambar

        Thanks for the link Tony, takes you ( me ) back in time like many others here i suppose. The grand kids reckon I listen to funny music but they do jig around the room when stuff like ” Promised Land” gets played. You have also provided me with another reason to promote Jo’s site to any one that will listen, current affairs, climate change,balanced and (mostly ) reasoned arguments on all and every subject, and now links to music sites that I will visit regularly. What a blog for old curmudgeons !

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          Oddly, it was my Mother who got me into (the wider base of) music, and it was in the early 70s, long after I had developed my own tastes in Music, which started when I was around 12/13, and that coincided with what the Americans loosely referred to as the British Invasion. To me, and my generation it was just ‘our’ music, and there were so many new songs virtually every day, it was almost bewildering, and all we had were those new small transistor radios and AM Radio. Our parents were supposed to dislike it intensely, but both my Mum and my Dad liked around half of it really. In much the same manner as they were supposed to dislike our music, we were supposed to dislike the music from their generation, which I mostly did in fact, as it was too slow, and perceived as being old fashioned.

          In the early 70s, I was home on leave and Mum had the radio on. An old Nat King Cole song came on, Mona Lisa, and I commented to Mum how I just loved that old song. She just smiled, and over a coffee, she gave me a whole new appreciation of music.

          That particular Nat King Cole song was a monster humungous smash hit for Nat while I was ‘in the womb’, for around the last four Months before birth. I was the first born, and Mum and Dad were both just gone 22, so this was their music. Dad actually purchased the record and would play it often on the stereogram.

          Not long after I was born, I was typical of all babies at that time, yelled and cried, as often as they still do. Being Mum’s first, she was ‘learning as she went’ and would pick me up, and do the things mothers do to quieten a noisy baby.

          During one of those times, Mum was holding me and bouncing me on her hip (she told me at that later date) and Dad, suitably annoyed, put on that Nat King Cole record. Mum told me I went from a screaming baby to still and quiet immediately, immediately, within a second of that first bar of the song, and shut up completely for the duration of the song. Mum was by now wondering to herself, and as soon as the song stopped, the yelling from me resumed. On the off chance, she asked Dad to play it again, with the same result, not a whimper from me.

          That record was in constant rotation on the sterogram from that point onwards. Mum went on to have four more children, but she learned things with me, and that was one of them. I always stopped everything every time that song came on. I grew up, the song went out of play, and was only played on radio a couple of times a year I would suppose.

          Mum told me all this, and she had a theory that I was aware of music while still inside her, and that carried over, something she had no concept of, until it actually happened, and this was in 1951 mind you.

          She liked some of my music, and I liked some from her generation as well, but from that point forwards, (when she told me this in the early 70s) I had a new appreciation of music, from all genres and in fact from all generations.

          I am of the opinion that every generation think that it is they who actually invented music, and all other music outside of their generation is no good.
          Throughout these almost 50 years since Mum told me that, I have enjoyed some of the music from every age, no matter what, and that is still happening.

          And Sambar, I don’t do it any more, but I had a regular Music Post at my home site every Sunday for around ten years, so around 500 separate clips and text with each of them. Some of the videos have expired, but most are still there.

          If you have any interest, go to my home site and just type in Sunday Music in the search facility just under the map of the World on the left side near the top there, or take this permanent link.

          Sunday Music

          Tony.

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            yarpos

            I used to think like that until I heard Rap

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            Kinky Keith

            Fascinating.

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            Sambar

            Thanks for the link, I’ve slipped it in to my bookmarks. Made it down the list to Crosby, Stills and Nash. Wasted on the way. Funny how you only need a tiny prompt and the memory drags back stuff from 50 something years ago. I’ll work through the lot over time. Personel music tastes run from Paul Robson and Edith Piaf to Beatles, Pavarotti, Pink. Rediscovered Stan Rogers ( Canadian maritime folk ) and bought his greatest hits off I Tunes This album fits perfectly with doing circle work on the lawn mower. It starts when I start and I stop when it stops.

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            Geoff Sherrington

            Tony,
            Not knocking in any way, but what you write is quite alien to me. It is generational. I turn 78 next week. The Beatles, the Stones and all from that era onwards mean nothing to me . I was busy doing degrees, working, starting a family, so not much spare time. Would put on a 33 of classical esp Beethoven to fill the sound space while studying.The older son at about 5 y o objected by rubbing toothpaste into the 9th Symphony record, which had been the choice for our Wedding, leaving the Church.
            I do not miss this whole musical chapter from Beatles to now. When I have done occasional comparisons, I found the quality of prior music is ever so much better that the recent stuff if you know where to look. I liken it to the quality of science pre and post the first IPCC report. Same happened with painted art. The Old Masters are no more, reasons unknown.
            But each to his own, if simple kindy music is preferred to complex harmonious structures, go for it. Benefit – you will beat me hands down in popular quiz competitions. Geoff

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              yarpos

              Thank you letting me enjoy my simple music. Its all that I can handle.

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              It’s odd really. I was never really ‘into’ the Beatles as a real fan until their Rubber Soul album in 65.

              In High School, (8th Grade 1964) there were two ‘groups’, those who preferred The Beatles, and those who preferred The Shadows, and I was in The Shadows cohort, and really, there was just so much other good music from English bands and artists at the time, that even my like for the Shadows was mainly due to the fine guitar work from Hank Marvin.

              However, even though there was Beatles music being played earlier than that, it was just ‘there’, as my tastes in music had not yet developed.

              The first I really became aware of The Beatles was at a New Year’s Eve gathering (63/4) at a family friends home, and there were around five families present. The adults were upstairs and the children were downstairs in the huge rumpus room, and here I mean children, because there were around fifteen or more of us. I was only 12 years old, and one of the older children there. The oldest was a young girl of 15, and because she was the oldest, she was in charge of the record player, which gave her the ultimate control really. She was a huge Beatles fan, and (literally) every third single that went on the player was I Want To Hold Your Hand, the band’s monster hit at that time.

              None of the rest of us children minded that she had the control over the record player, as we were more into games than the music, which was basically just background to the rest of us, all younger than she was.

              Sometime late into the night, after we had heard that same song an interminable number of times (not that we cared) she actually flipped it over and played the B Side.

              My head almost snapped around as soon as I heard it, and I actually stopped what I was doing, and moved closer to the player and listened to it. It was actually amazing really, and that point was, I think, the dawning of my music appreciation. I liked songs before that, but I had never really ‘listened’ to them per se. In later years, analysing it all for myself, it was hard to pinpoint why something like that happened with such a seemingly obscure song, as I was still only 12 years old.

              While I have a number of songs from The Beatles that I do like, this one was always up there as one of my favourites, for no other reason than it was the genesis of an appreciation of music. Sometimes the strangest things make you take notice, and this was one of those times.

              I asked that girl is every time she put that record on the stereogram from then on to alternate the sides. I think she was just happy that there was another (seemingly) Beatles fan amongst all those kids. That’s the song at the following link.

              This Boy -The Beatles
              Tony.

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              Annie

              I’m of a similar mind Geoff Sherrington, although did like some of The Beatles (before Rubber Soul Tony!) and some Abba. Otherwise prefer classical.

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                Greebo

                Sitting on the fence Annie?

                As Jordan Peterson says in 12 Rules:

                A small fraction of the music composed by a small fraction of all the classical composers who have ever composed make up almost all the classical music that the world knows and loves” . We all know Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and Tchaikovsky. Those 4 musician’s music make up most of the classical music performed by orchestras. Not only just their music, but of their pieces, only a fraction of those get performed by orchestras – a fraction within a fraction.

                So, what is Classical? The Beatles greatest period was after their shuffle period, 65 to 68 maybe. That almost makes THEM classical….

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      theRealUniverse

      Trouble with that sort of one off archiving, they lost the opportunity to ever have a backup. Too much faith in ‘itll never happen here’.

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      It is a pity that they could not save the materials. More than 300 firefighters and dozens of helicopters extinguished the fire for 12 hours. The total area of ​​the fire was more than 160 hectares. It is also known that at least one explosion was recorded – the propane tank, which was stored under the same roof as the video archive, exploded. It seems to me that it was intentional. After all, the envious was not enough. I really hope that somewhere there are copies of it all. It will be very interesting to listen to them and see. In general, the fire is probably the most senior that can happen to any industry. Unfortunately, in 2019 we came up with an artificial intelligence, but there is no way to protect ourselves from a fire. Good luck!

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      Travis T. Jones … sounds like a good stage name for a US country singer !

      The author of the article grossly exaggerates the importance of the master tapes.

      I read the article because the subject interested me when I originally read about the fire in 2008.
      As a long time collector of recorded music, I wondered how that fire affected me, and 11 years later, i still don’t know.

      I already had purchased about 3,000 compact discs by the time of the 2008 fire, so can’t imagine there was a lot more good music just sitting in the vaults for 20+ years, not yet released on compact disc (maybe not true true for jazz, but I don’t collect jazz recordings).

      There was so much “trash” released on CD that I can’t imagine record companies were holding back “good” recordings. … have given away, resold or donated to charity over 1,000 CDs whose music I didn’t like. And there are only a few albums I had on vinyl that I wanted to buy, but were never released on CD … however the best songs from those records did make it onto CD greatest hits compilations.

      I’ve been an audiophile since 1965, and spent 10 years as a member of a local audio club that made national news for a series of double blind listening tests in the 1980s and 1990s. One of those listening tests was listening to a master tape (two channel) of a live in studio recording of a local band, and comparing that master tape with a vinyl record made from an equalized for LP version of that master tape (something required for vinyl records) , and a CD made from an unequalized master tape. The CD sounded similar to the master tape, the vinyl record was okay, but did not sound as good. That means CDs are capable of preserving the sound quality of master tapes.

      My point, and I do have one, is that SO MANY recordings have been “preserved” on compact discs, since the early 1980′s, that the master tapes were no longer very important by 2008, when there was a fire. By 2008, the primary use of the master tapes was to produce remastered versions of the CDs, and try to sell the same albums a second or third time! The remastered CD versions usually had boosted bass (usually good news), boosted treble (usually bad news) and more compressed musical dynamics (always bad news) — in summary the remastered versions were just as likely to sound worse than the first edition CD, than to sound better.

      Master tapes were not permanent. They develop a sound problem called “print through”, and the oxides very gradually deteriorate — after roughly 50 years they may not be good enough for further use.

      All recording labels have digital versions of the analog master tapes for any recording they released on CD, and hopefully for some popular recordings not released on CD — hopefully the digital masters were NOT stored in the same place as the analog tape masters. A few labels got rid of their analog tape masters once they encoded them for for CD mastering (44.1kHz, 16 bit).

      The true losses would be master tapes that were never used in the CD era — and although the author did not seem to realize this, they were probably NEVER going to be released on CD (or a streaming online version) anyway, whether they burned or not !

      The multi-track analog tape masters — typically 3 to 64 tracks — are not very important commercially because they are rarely remixed to create a new two track stereo version. The original two track (or mono) mix is considered part of the original recording — not something to be “remixed and fixed”.

      … Hope this audiophile stuff didn’t bore you — not as exciting as the world ending in 12 years from climate change brought to you be our own Alexandria Occasionally Coherent.

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    Travis T. Jones

    Great Lakes Reveal a Fatal Flaw in Climate Change ‘Science’

    “Naturally, climate change is getting the blame. “We are undoubtedly observing the effects of a warming climate in the Great Lakes,” says Richard Rood, a University of Michigan climate scientist.

    But just a few years ago, climate scientists were insisting that a warming climate would cause water levels to decline.”

    https://issuesinsights.com/2019/06/09/great-lakes-reveal-the-fatal-flaw-in-global-warming-science/

    But of course: Now the Conversation blames CO2 for both low *and* high Great Lakes water levels:

    Climate change is driving rapid shifts between high and low water levels on the Great Lakes

    https://theconversation.com/climate-change-is-driving-rapid-shifts-between-high-and-low-water-levels-on-the-great-lakes-118095

    Neither academic rigour, journalistic flair or science was involved @thecon.

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      PeterS

      Much of what passes as climate science is actually no better than flat earth “science”. Both are mostly based on incorrect observations, false scientific reasoning and some form of psychological disorder.

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        Bruce J

        As usual, the disciplines with the word “science” in their name, or those people who use “science” to justify their views are the ones who least understand what true science is all about!

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        Melbourne Resident

        Go look at the Newsweek article by Lee McIntyre about deniers and flat earthers where he shovels everyone who question climate ‘science’ into the same denier basket.

        https://www.newsweek.com/authors/lee-mcintyre

        Jo should address such a biased article and point out that, whilst it is hard to prove that the level of CO2 does anything in the atmosphere, it has already been proven via the ice cores that CO2 follows temperature – and does not lead it.

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        PeterS

        Looks like there’s one flat earther here ha ha! Thanks for the thumbs down.

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      el gordo

      ‘It is uncertain how these relationships will change as the planet warms.’

      Global cooling has begun, that is a certainty, so lets not beat around the bush, extremes should be expected.

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        Graeme#4

        Had a look st Perth’s monthly averages for January to May recently. No problems in obtaining BOM’s monthly averages report for March to May, but strangely absent for January and February. Of course these were the months that were significantly cooler (maximums 2-3 degrees less) than “normal”, whatever normal is supposed to be.
        March-May maximums were slightly cooler but within one degree of normal. However, the minimums for these months were significantly cooler.
        I’m wondering when the BOM is finally going to admit that Perth has cooled over the last 2-3 years.

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          el gordo

          They are not going to mention that it has cooled, so we’ll have to wait awhile.

          Essentially its not about temperatures, but what we can observe similar to the transition from the MWP to LIA.

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          me@home

          PLEASE do mot use “normal” when you mean “average”. There IS NO NORMAL but warmists prefer that to average.

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            Graeme#4

            Ok, no problems using “average”. But what exactly is the average? The Perth temp site has been moved twice, if we don’t count the initial non-screen site, and each time to a warmer location. And I’m not sure what is the year span that BOM for its average – is it a rolling 30-year span?
            I have noted that when the BOM did mention how cold it was, it clearly only mentioned the time span of the more recent Mt Lawley site. But when the BOM mentions hot weather in Perth, it never specifies the measurement time span.
            Last summer the BOM tried to focus on how hot it was up north, until the commenters started to point out that it’s always hot up there in summer. At the same time, they never mentioned how cool it was in Perth, where virtually all of WA’s population resides.

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          Robber

          Don’t understand the problem – I can see data for each month?

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            Graeme#4

            That’s interesting, because when I attempted to look at each month in succession, working backwards from May, I couldn’t find a BOM summary page for January and February that focused on Perth.
            I eventually found the Perth data, hidden away in BOM report for January, that was focused on the hotter weather up north.

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      theRealUniverse

      ‘Climate change’ isnt a theory, it is a statement of nothing.
      Human caused global warming has been debunked by publications and real data.

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      beowulf

      More scientific rigour. “Culturally significant” aboriginal hand prints in a cave found to be nothing more than a kids’ game.

      Handprints found near Glenbrook (Between Sydney and the Blue Mountains) have been found to have been done by children in 1969. The handprints’ then 13 year old creator has stated so in a letter that contradicts the findings of an archaeologist.

      He and his little brothers simply did handprints by wiping ground ochre on their hands as opposed to the authentic method of spitting ochre to form an outline of the hand. He says he was “amazed an expert did not realise they were not genuine as we did not stencil them, as Aboriginals would have, we just stamped them.”

      The “science” of archaeology takes another hit.

      https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/culturally-significant-glenbrook-hand-prints-in-cave-found-to-be-fake/ar-AACJjfC?ocid=spartanntp

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      Travis T. Jones

      Having lived in Michigan USA since July 1977, I know the scary predictions about the Great Lakes have been ongoing since before I arrived,
      according to long time Michigan residents.

      When the water level gets low, “scientists” here get publicity by waving their arms, and declaring a crisis.

      Then the water level gets high, and different “scientists” here get publicity by waving their arms, and declaring a crisis.

      My solution to the scaremongering back in the 1970′s, was to stop listening to all predictions.

      That rule of thumb served me well when I began reading climate science articles and studies as a hobby in the 1990s !

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      el gordo

      ‘Cold fronts and low pressure systems increase the percentage of positive ions in the atmosphere, leading to a decrease in the number of negative ions in our bodies.’

      Anecdotally a low pressure trough tends to cause ‘stuffiness’ and the cause has always mystified me, now I can say its all down to positive ions.

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      RickWill

      That possibly explains my winter “hay fever”.

      Cold fronts and low pressure systems increase the percentage of positive ions in the atmosphere, leading to a decrease in the number of negative ions in our bodies. Doctors in Japan report that under such conditions the symptoms of their asthma and arthritis patients are aggravated, and the number of strokes increases.

      Certainly worthy of follow up.

      Some years ago I had a two week holiday trip around Tasmania and spent many of those days doing numerous short walks into moist forested areas with small and large waterfalls as well as turbulent streams. That was incredibly refreshing.

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    OriginalSteve

    I wonder if Dangerous Dan has a poster of Venezuela in his office as his eventual target?

    “I am the knight rider…a fuel injected….” from the “Mad Max” film?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfJVmzthD3Q

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-12/venezuelans-starving-as-country-gripped-by-economic-crisis/11197560

    “Venezuelan currency is nearly worthless

    “Vast oil reserves, the largest in the world, supported equally vast government largesse for years.

    “Charismatic, populist President Hugo Chavez was adored by the poor for his community support programs, free healthcare and education and generally subsidised living.

    “But with it came deep corruption and nepotism.

    “Skilled managers of public utilities and the oil business were replaced with cronies, mismanagement set in, maintenance was not done, and when the oil price crashed in 2014, Venezuela’s currency came crashing down with it.

    “When Mr Chavez died and was replaced by his anointed successor Nicolas Maduro, he inherited a basket case and failed to manage the crisis.

    “Suddenly a formerly wealthy country was in freefall.

    “Other times, power outages cut all transportation options and residents walk through the dark tunnels.

    “But economic hardship has made Caracas one of the most dangerous cities in the world.
    Violent crime is rife and even leaving the house at the wrong time can be dangerous.
    “If you wait out here for a bus, they’ll mug you. If you wait further up, they’ll mug you too,” Maria says.

    “Sometimes Maria’s mum can’t leave as early in the morning as she’d like, meaning she doesn’t always return with painkillers.

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    TdeF

    I still enjoy a good byline in the English Press. This one on PM aspirant Michael Gove who has confessed
    to using cocaine.

    “Whatever Michael Gove has put up his nose, he’s blown it now”.

    It’s better than 5 squillion species are going to go extinct each day until Christmas. Outrageous made up rubbish
    to promote the Climate Catastrophe Literally.

    Unanswerable questions.

    Why is it only the extreme left of politics which tells us we are all going to die unless we make electricity unsustainable?

    Why is The Science so obviously political policy, not self evident fact?

    Why after 31 years of rapid sea rise can’t we see any change.

    Why after 31 years are the winters colder and longer?

    Why is every storm on the planet proof that things are changing rapidly when we had storms, bush fires and floods long before Climate Change?

    Why do Greens live in the inner city in the most expensive housing in the areas most dependent on the hard work of others?

    Why don’t Greens drink water instead of cafe latte with the most expensive beans from the former Brazilian rain forest?

    Life! About to end, apparently. 12 years to go. Again.

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      RickWill

      TdeF asked:

      Why do Greens live in the inner city in the most expensive housing in the areas most dependent on the hard work of others?

      Why don’t Greens drink water instead of cafe latte with the most expensive beans from the former Brazilian rain forest?

      They suffer dingbatitis:

      Dingbatitis
      An inflammatory condition of the brain that causes humans to turn into dingbats
      E.g. When someone says something utterly stupid…like when a colleague says the dumbest thing in the world or your partner says something daft…”don’t worry it probably just a case of dingbatitis…”

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        RickWill

        Actually post #3 above has this link:
        https://balance10.blogspot.com/2019/06/in-recent-years-ratio-has-reversed-and.html

        This list is extracted from that link:

        Negative Ions
        Positive Ions
        Offices
        70
        1,400
        Industrial Areas
        50
        300
        Shopping Arcades
        220
        280
        Residential Areas
        200
        180
        Forests
        2,500
        800
        Near Minoh Waterfall
        5,000
        300

        As you can see, offices have a 200X ratio of positive ions. That is very harmful to the human condition and may be the root cause of dingbatitis so prevalent in inner cities.

        This could be one of the great revelations of our time. We need to show these people our genuine pity and encourage them to spend more time near waterfalls and babbling brooks in moist forests.

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    Another Ian

    “Why don’t Greens drink water instead of cafe latte with the most expensive beans from the former Brazilian rain forest?

    Life! About to end, apparently. 12 years to go. Again.”

    Feel at least twice as long as that if they had to drink water.

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    Travis T. Jones

    It’s a gas, gas, gas!

    Watcha make of NOAA saying there’s no evidence of CO2 causing global warming?

    That was before the Big Scientific Breakthrough though, yeah …?

    “It has been thought that an increase in carbon dioxide will lead to global warming.

    While carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has been increasing over the past 100 years, there is no evidence that it is causing an increase in global temperatures.”

    Learning Lesson: Its a Gas, Man

    https://web.archive.org/web/20060129154229/http://www.srh.noaa.gov/srh/jetstream/atmos/ll_gas.htm

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      TdeF

      “It has been thought that an increase in carbon dioxide will lead to global warming. While carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has been increasing over the past 100 years, there is no evidence that it is causing an increase in global temperatures.

      In 1997, NASA reported global temperature measurements of the Earth’s lower atmosphere obtained from satellites revealed no definitive warming trend over the past two decades. In fact, the trend appeared to be a decrease in actual temperature.”

      There is also absolute evidence that the CO2 increase is not man made, so even if there was warming, we are not responsible and we cannot control CO2 levels. So much for 350,000 windmills.

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    Greg in NZ

    Continuing on from my emergency eedjits post yesterday: “Auckland Mayor Phil Goff told Morning Report that nationwide, paying for climate change would have to come from taxes and rates… Last year, the council put aside $40 million for climate change and $90m for coastal management, he said”.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/391809/climate-emergency-declaration-phil-goff-talks-cost-of-inaction

    “We know we’ve got about 12 years according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change before the effects of climate change will be irreversible and catastrophic” spewed the ex-leader of the NZ Labour Party, he of a Masters in Political Studies, he who banned Canadians Molyneux & Southern from speaking in the city last year, he who rides a Harley Davidson, he who – on the very same day his council announced a ™climate emergency™ due to fossil fuels and agriculture – happily announced the go-ahead for an “American chain’s full format [shopping mall] including a Costco fuel station, tyre centre, food court, optometrist, hearing aid services along with groceries and homewares” –

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113355280/costco-is-coming-to-new-zealand

    Great – more useless carbon junk from a foreign mega mall built on what used to be orchards, strawberry farms and market gardens, now to be buried under concrete and tarseal and carparks and highways and more suburbs… no hypocrisy nor double standards there, eh Phil Goff? What did he say: “paying for climate change would have to come from taxes and rates”…

    What do I say? Fa’a Goff! :-)

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      OriginalSteve

      The NWO weirdos have decided to change tack – Labor didnt get elected, so plan B is taxing us to death by indirect carbon taxes, and also Big Biz lifting prices to strangle economic activity and killing the middle class….

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      theRealUniverse

      Dear Mr Goff, please PROVE that CO2 causes climate change so that you and your diablical council fools can tax the Auckland ratepayers!
      Or we are paying you ONE CENT towards your stupid tax.
      Yours,…

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    joseph

    I thought this could be of interest, whichever side of this one might be thinking has the better information . . . . . it’s been around since march but I only just came across it . . . .

    5G CATASTROPHE: Mr. President, you leave us no choice!
    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=119960

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      theRealUniverse

      Just goes to show that any warming has made empires GROW not collapse as the doom casters predict. I ask often, what evidence is there that a warmer climate causes the end of civilization.

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      Roger

      There is a book entitled “Riding the Business Cycle” published quite a few years ago now and having ‘lent’ my copy to someone to read a few years ago I no longer have it.

      BUT it charted climate against civilisation and showed that the greatest advances in civilisation, society, humanity and the arts etc. were all during the Warmer periods (Medieval, Roman, Minoan Warm periods etc. It also charted and showed how Colder periods led to the breakdown of civilisation and it was during these times that wars and conflicts increased.

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    Another Ian

    For nervous aircraft passengers (maybe)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqFTD-Bqwl8

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      Annie

      Yeah, right! Our A380 pilot son had circled half-an-hour and then tried to land at MAN during Storm Doris, aborted and eventually had to go on to LGW where the worst of the storm had moderated slightly…slightly :0

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      Hanrahan

      Flew into Syd once, there were waves breaking over the runway and the terminal was damaged a bit but the landing was smooth as silk. I could see the big drift angle coming in.

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      yarpos

      I have travelled on business a lot, mostly uneventfully. Was coming home one day from Japan, but was fully expecting the flight to be cancelled due to typhoon arriving. We took of into the teeth of it. It was in a 747 but it felt like being in a washing machine for the first 20 minutes. Not many interested in dinner that flight.

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    pat

    big news today:

    10 Jun: Judicial Watch Releases State Department Emails Showing Dossier Author Christopher Steele’s Close Relationship with State Department
    ‘Special Coordinator for Libya’ Jonathan Winer Played Key Role, Approached by Hollywood
    (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch today released 43 pages (LINK) of documents from the U.S. Department of State revealing that State Department “Special Coordinator for Libya” Jonathan Winer played a key role in facilitating dossier author Christopher Steele’s access to other top government officials, prominent international business executives. Mr. Winer was even approached by a movie producer about making a movie about the Russiagate targeting of President Trump.

    Judicial Watch obtained the documents in a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed on April 25, 2018 on behalf of itself and the Daily Caller News Foundation against the State Department after it failed to respond to three separate FOIA requests (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:18-cv- 00968))…

    “These documents show that Fusion GPS and Clinton spy Christopher Steele had a close relationship with the Obama State Department,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The State Department under John Kerry is emerging as another center of the Spygate conspiracy against President Trump.”…
    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-releases-state-department-emails-showing-dossier-author-christopher-steeles-close-relationship-with-state-department/

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      pat

      10 Jun: Daily Caller: State Department Official helped Christopher Steele with business concerns, emails show
      by Chuck Ross
      •State Department emails show that former State official Jonathan Winer facilitated meetings between dossier author Christopher Steele and multiple private consulting firms.
      •Winer served as Steele’s main point of contact to the State Department, and was the official responsible for disseminating the anti-Trump dossier through Foggy Bottom.
      •Winer’s emails were obtained through a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch on behalf of The Daily Caller News Foundation.
      https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/10/jonathan-winer-christopher-steele-state-department-business/

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    pat

    42min30sec to 48min44sec: ABC’s Paul Barclay brings up the role of CAGW to Helen Cleugh, CSIRO:

    AUDIO: 54min: 10 Jun: ABC Big Ideas: How fire has shaped Australia
    Long before colonisation, fire was shaping the Australian landscape. Controlled burning was conducted by indigenous people for land management and agricultural purposes. But for Australian settlers, fire quickly became something to fear. Paul Barclay speaks to a panel of experts about the history of fire in Australia, including our many devastating wild fires.
    Recorded 23 May 2019 at the Australian National Museum. Part of the Defining Moments in Australian History series.
    Speakers:
    Bruce Pascoe – indigenous historian; author
    Helen Cleugh – atmospheric scientist; Director, CSIRO Climate Science Centre
    Jane Smyth – survivor, 2003 Canberra bushfires; advocate for bushfire education
    Professor Tom Griffiths – environmental historian; author
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bigideas/how-fire-has-shaped-australia/11156164

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    pat

    11 Jun: BusinessGreen: Tory leadership candidates back UK net zero target
    by James Murray
    All of the frontrunners to replace Theresa May as Prime Minister have publicly confirmed they would introduce a net zero emission target for 2050 if they are selected as Conservative Party Leader.
    In a series of interviews with the influential ConservativeHome website published late last week, all the candidates were asked “‘The UK should set a zero carbon target for 2050′. Do you agree and if so why?”

    All of the candidates – bar one – confirmed previous reports suggesting they would support such a target. Notably, all of the most fancied candidates backed a target and argued it was in the UK’s interests to lead on climate action.
    Frontrunner Boris Johnson said “we should set ourselves a challenging target”. “Even if it looks tough to deliver today, the technology is changing and improving the whole time,” he added. “I believe in the Promethean power of the human race to solve its problems – and Britain can be in the lead in coming up with the answers.”…

    The one dissenting voice was provided by former Work and Pension Secretary Esther McVey, who argued that “if you want to guarantee failure, get politicians to set a target”.
    She said that “preserving our natural environment is vital for the legacy we leave future generations and we must take action to combat climate change”. But she argued that any attempt to cut emissions must “combine the urgent need for action with protecting the livelihoods of working people”…
    https://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/3077154/tory-leadership-candidates-back-uk-net-zero-target

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    pat

    10 Jun: BBC: ‘Super battery’ for Scottish Power’s Whitelee wind farm
    A huge “super battery” will be built on the site of the UK’s largest wind farm, after plans were approved by the Scottish government.
    It will store power generated by the 215 turbines at Whitelee wind farm on Eaglesham Moor, near Glasgow.
    Scottish Power, which operates the wind farm, said the battery storage site would be the size of half a football pitch…

    The energy firm said the facility would support the National Grid in maintaining the resilience and stability of the electricity grid, even when the wind is not blowing.
    It will be able to achieve full charge in less than half an hour.
    The battery can been fully discharged or used in bursts as and when required to keep the electricity network stable by balancing supply and demand…READ ON
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-48582270

    10 Jun: Guardian: Scottish Power to build vast battery to improve wind energy supply
    Energy firm says project will be big step towards continuous renewable power for UK
    by Jillian Ambrose
    For example, the batteries could charge overnight – when demand for power is low – and release electricity in the morning, when demand from homes and businesses begins to rise…
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/10/scottish-power-build-vast-battery-improve-wind-energy

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      pat

      11 Jun: PeeblesShireNews: New targets to tackle ‘blight of fuel poverty’ in Scotland approved
      by Press Association
      Targets committing the Scottish Government to reduce fuel poverty to below 5% of Scottish households by 2040 have been approved by MSPs.
      Holyrood has voted unanimously to pass a Bill to cut the number of households affected by “the blight of fuel poverty” to 15% by 2030 and 5% by 2040.
      A new independent watchdog will also be created to monitor progress towards the targets…

      Graham Simpson, the Scottish Conservatives’ housing spokesman, said: “This is a Bill which can change lives.”
      He added: “One of the criticisms of the Bill was its target of reducing fuel poverty to 5% within 21 years.
      “Some have argued that’s too far in the future but now we’ve amended it with interim targets I think we can be comfortable that at least we have something that’s achievable and that’s important.”…
      https://www.peeblesshirenews.com/news/17699103.new-targets-to-tackle-blight-of-fuel-poverty-in-scotland-approved/

      11 Jun: Energy Voice: £140,000 scheme to help tackle fuel poverty in northern Scotland
      by Allister Thomas
      Scottish and Southern Electricity Networks (SSEN) and Citizens Advice Scotland will provide four specialist advisors to operate at local bureaus, providing in-depth energy advice…
      The partnership will last for a year, fully-funded by SSEN.

      Derek Mitchell, chief executive of Citizens Advice Scotland, said: “The Citizens Advice network in Scotland helps thousands of clients every year with issues relating to energy. We see on the front line the anxiety and stress that is caused when people struggle to pay bills and keep their homes warm. We also know that fuel poverty is a particular issue in the North of Scotland.”
      https://www.energyvoice.com/otherenergy/201171/140000-scheme-to-help-tackle-fuel-poverty-in-northern-scotland/

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      Chad

      That battery is a “huge” 50MW !!
      …that is less than half the size of Teslas BFB at Hornsdale Power reserve…which doesnt even show as a drop in the small ocean of South Australias power supply
      Baseload indeed ?….. Do any of these people actually understand the scale of the issues they are wasting public money on ?

      ….It claims the 50MW battery systems promise a “significant step” on the road towards renewable energy, providing baseload, or continuous electricity supply, for the UK energy system

      The battery has more than double the power capacity of any existing battery in the UK. It would take an hour to fully charge and could release enough electricity over an hour to fully charge 806 Nissan Leaf vehicles over a total of 182,000 miles, according to a spokesman for Scottish Power.

      Keith Anderson, Scottish Power’s chief executive, said: “Batteries will take renewable energy to the next level. It is a nice, neat solution to help use more and more renewable power in the UK, because that’s what we need to be doing to reach a net zero-carbon economy.”

      The lithium-ion battery will help Whitelee, already one of the largest onshore windfarms in Europe, to generate more renewable power by storing electricity when wind speeds are high, for use when the wind drops.

      “Over a period of time, we will get to use much more wind output from the project, and across the whole of the country, because even at times of low demand we will be able to capture far more of the wind rather than wasting that potential energy,” he said…..

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        theRealUniverse

        ‘Do any of these people actually understand the scale of the issues they are wasting public money on ?’ NO they are totally clueless idiots on a bandwagon sucking up to corporate greed.

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        Annie

        The last times we flew into GLW those wind turbines weren’t turning. Scotland has been badly disfiguered by the wretched bird mincers, both on land and in the Solway Firth.

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        yarpos

        “Do any of these people actually understand the scale of the issues they are wasting public money on ?” No, they have no idea. Those numbers sound really big , if they even get to the bit with numbers. The MSM says its good, we are saved!!

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    pat

    Switch to electric cars hit by ‘poor’ charging infrastructure
    Financial Times – 10 Jun 2019
    To test the UK’s readiness for electric vehicles, David Wright, chief electricity engineer at National Grid, sent some colleagues on a 565-mile round trip from the utility’s offices in Wokingham, Berkshire, to Teesside…
    “Nine hours of driving, four hours of charge,” Mr Wright recounted of the journey at a BP conference on electric vehicles in London last month…

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      Hanrahan

      Is there a link for that Pat? It doesn’t sound right: An average of 70MPH?

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        RickWill

        Google give the one way distance as 265mile with a driving time of 4hr44min. Corresponding to 57mph average.
        565/9 = 62.8

        This link does not shed any further detail:
        https://www.ft.com/content/dfe71424-7c07-11e9-81d2-f785092ab560

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        pat

        Hanrahan -

        the link RickWill posted is the same on I have, but article was behind paywall for me. there may be something online from the BP conference, but I haven’t looked.

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        Annie

        The timing is perfectly feasible with present day roads; several possible routes via motorways and dual carriageways. Look on a basic driving map. I’d be more bothered by worries about recharging!

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          Annie

          A few years ago I drove from near Richmond in North Yorkshire to our home in Gloucestershire, in the middle of the night. I normally stop after two hours but my planned stop was roped off (or looked like it) so I just carried on. I was home in about three hours, without going over the speed limit of 70mph, much to my own astonishment. The roads, all dual carriageway or motorway, were very quiet. IIRC the distance was a bit over 200 miles but I could have misremembered that.

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          Hanrahan

          After posting I found the two cities on a map an it is motorway, mostly M1 all the way with a 70 MPH limit.

          I used to treat speed limits as advisory when travelling but still could not average 100 KPH, but a motorway would be different to roads in the north. :)

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            Annie

            Many, many years ago, long before I met my OH, I drove from Catterick to Aldershot in my little 1953 British Empire Green 2-door Morris Minor! It took over 8 hours. That wasn’t too long after getting my driver’s licence. Thank goodness the roads have improved, though they are much busier.

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              Annie

              Also, thank goodness for newer more comfortable cars. Though I have always hankered after a little white convertible Morris Minor…

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              Hanrahan

              There was a time when they ran a Redex reliability trial around Australia each year. There was a part of highway 1 between Mackay and Rockhampton that was posted as one of the “horror” stretches.

              Not all that long ago there were 13 single lane bridges between Home Hill and Bowen.

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      StephenP

      How would they have managed at night in the middle of winter and the heater going full blast, with hold-ups on the motorway?
      That is a more likely scenario than an easy light traffic drive in daylight in the summer?
      Even better, try a drive up the M6!

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        Annie

        Ha ha! Just think of driving over the section of the M6 at Shap Fell in the winter in an EV! Or around Manchester with all those junctions…snort!

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      Chad

      Ey must have picked their time carefully.
      All that route ..M4, M25, M1, A1, etc..are all notorius for major traffic snarl ups …even without the almost continuous roadworks, accidents, etc. .Its so easy to lose an hour or more at any one of several sections.
      My guess is they did an overnight drive up, followed by charging during the daylight peak hour period, before the return overnight again.

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    11 Jun: STV Scotland: Greenhouse gas emissions target missed in Scotland
    Official figures showed that in 2017 adjusted emissions, against which progress on legally binding climate change targets are measured, rose by 3.7% to 46.410 million tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent (MtCO2e).
    This is above the 43.946 MtCO2e that has been laid down in the Scottish Government’s climate change legislation…

    11 Jun: BBC: Production in major North Sea Culzean gas field starts
    By Kevin Keane
    Production has started on the massive Culzean gas field in the North Sea.
    Operator Total said the field, 140 miles (225km) off Aberdeen, will be responsible for 5% of the UK’s gas needs when it reaches peak production…
    Culzean was discovered in 2008 when it was described as the largest gas find in a decade. It contains gas reserves equal to about 250-300 million barrels of oil.
    The find was made by the Danish firm Maersk Oil.
    Maersk was subsequently bought by Total.
    The French firm owns a 49.99% stake, with the remainder shared between BP and JX Nippon…

    11 Jun: NationalScotland: Survey finds ‘clear issues’ in Scots’ climate crisis understanding
    by National Newsdesk
    ALMOST one-third of Scots are unaware of the damage flying does to the environment, according to new research.
    A survey found 31% did not know travelling by plane contributes to climate change, while 33% were unaware of the impact of taking the car for short trips and of single-use plastic.
    Censuswide Scotland published details of the survey in the wake of Holyrood’s Environment Committee insisting ministers must put in place clearer plans for action across the board to tackle the “catastrophic harm” being done to the environment. And while First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has declared a “climate emergency”, only just over half (54%) of Scots were aware of this announcement.
    But almost three quarters (73%) said they were willing to change their buying habits to help combat climate change. This included eating less meat and cutting back on holidays abroad…
    https://www.thenational.scot/news/17696909.survey-finds-clear-issues-in-scots-climate-crisis-understanding/

    10 Jun: JerseyEveningPost: Scots want more education on causes of climate change, survey suggests
    Nearly four out of five (79%) Scots want more education on the issue, with 78% and 72% looking to the UK and Scottish Governments respectively to raise awareness.
    Almost two thirds (62%) also say local councils should play a role in educating the public on environmental matters, along with 53% who think schools and teachers should do more, while two out of five (39%) say the oil and gas industry should also play a part in this.
    Almost four out of five Scots (79%) are calling for companies to do more to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
    And overall almost two thirds (64%) think not enough is being done to tackle the impact of increasing temperatures on the planet…

    Greens education spokesman Ross Greer said that “embedding climate education in our schools is a must”.
    The MSP added: “As the School Strike For Climate movement has shown though, young people are already the most aware of this threat”…
    https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/uk-news/2019/06/10/scots-want-more-education-on-causes-of-climate-change-survey-suggests/

    Censuswide have been commissioned by WWF in the past; don’t know who commissioned them this time – the Greens maybe? manufacturing opinion is what it’s all about.

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    pat

    12 Jun: SMH: Uber says Melbourne to have flying taxis by 2023
    By Jewel Topsfield
    Flying taxis could be in our skies within four years, according to Uber, which has announced Melbourne will be one of three cities to pilot its latest ambitious ride hailing service…

    The electric vertical take off and landing (eVTOL) aircraft – which would be booked through the Uber app – would initially be flown by a commercial pilot. However Uber envisages they would eventually become autonomous…
    Melbourne will join Dallas and Los Angeles as pilot cities, with Uber claiming test flights will begin next year and commercial operations in 2023. Other Australian cities are expected to follow soon after.

    However Uber acknowledges critical challenges to bringing air transportation to the market include certification from aviation authorities, battery technology, vehicle efficiency and performance, air traffic control, cost, safety, finding landing pads and pilot training…
    Melbourne was chosen ahead of Japan, France, Brazil and India after a deal with Dubai fell through…
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/uber-says-melbourne-to-have-flying-taxis-by-2023-20190612-p51wtv.html

    Uber Air’s $100 ‘flying taxi’ rides between Melbourne CBD and airport
    Australian Business Traveller-4 hours ago

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      Graeme#4

      Going to need a decent-sized battery to lift the craft and 4 passengers and transport them, then I presume return to the airport. And as they would be weight-limited, I’m presuming that one return flight per battery charge would only be possible. So it appears that the aircraft would have a spend a lot of time at the airport recharging.

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        Hanrahan

        Electric planes for flying schools are already practical.

        https://www.wired.com/2010/10/electric-airplanes-coming-to-a-flight-school-near-you/

        It’s a niche market of course but a big enough one for manufacturers to take interest. I’m aware this is not what Uber would have in mind.

        However Uber acknowledges critical challenges to bringing air transportation to the market include certification from aviation authorities, battery technology, vehicle efficiency and performance, air traffic control, cost, safety, finding landing pads and pilot training…

        Do you think?????

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          OriginalSteve

          Its an improvement on rubber band powered planes, but not by much…

          I can see the headlines now…..

          “Aircraft crashes as all passengers plug in their smartphones to charge”….

          Remember the old coiled ribbon cigarette lighters in cars? Imagibe a few of those going?

          Actually, batteries hate the cold, how are they going to stop batteries derating fast in the cold? Electric heaters maybe…?

          Its a silly idea which ever way you look at it….

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          Graeme#4

          I’m no expert in calculating the energy required to lift about 400 kgs, plus plane weight plus battery weight, but it must be considerable. I still don’t believe that they would obtain many flights out of one battery charge.
          The main problem is that the energy density of batteries doesn’t come close to the energy density of petrol, and I doubt that it will for a very long time.

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            Graeme#4

            Hmm. When I tried to use a standard formula to calculate the energy required to lift 500 kgs 500 metres for just one minute, I came up with the incredible number of 15 MW. Clearly I’ll never make the grade as an aeronautical engineer.

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          James

          90 minute flight time, does that include an allowance for taxi and an engine run up (if required). Minimum reserve for VFR flight is 30 minutes. So one hour flying time at max. Now as the batteries age, the flying time will decrease. Plus performance will decrease in the cold, the opposite of piston powered aircraft.

          You still need to teach the students fuel calculations, and their affect on weight and balance. Plus piston engine management. This means leaning the mixture and using carb heat and boost pump where applicable. Does not sound very practical to me, better off learning in a piston powered aircraft right from the start.

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      Another Ian

      Pat

      Show them the video at #12

      And read about the Republic SeeBee and market anticipation

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_RC-3_Seabee

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      yarpos

      There doesnt appear to be a commercial E helicopter yet , let alone a tilt rotor aircraft , capable of lifting 4 and luggage. 2023 sounds like yet another renewables/Tesla type date.

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      Annie

      I’m relieved to hear that Dubai has knocked back that idea. There are enough choppers flying around there as it is. The thought of unmanned ones appalled me.

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        yarpos

        Makes you wonder just how gullible and technically illiterate the Andrews government is if they associate themselves with this. Seem like Victoria is going to pick up every numpty project being floated.

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    Zane

    Even the editorial in the Murdoch Herald Sun today repeats the nonsense that Victoria requires greater investment in renewables. Meanwhile Dan Andrews grows fat on land tax and stamp duty revenues. Also in the paper was a story on species extinction. More scaremongering. I think the climatists are opening another front in the war, now they will blame extinctions and biodiversity loss on climate change, thus on carbon dioxide and coal. We skeptics need to reload. We are being ambushed on all sides by climatism BS. It’s like the Tet offensive!

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      Kinky Keith

      1968 was a bad year in Vietnam.

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      Roger

      My gut feeling is that the ‘climate change’ industry knows very well that the current cooling is set to kill the CO2=Global Warming scam – hence the massive hysteria from all directions to try and get change to 100% renewables fixed in place Before the Earth makes it clear to everyone that this was only ever a political scam.

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      yarpos

      Saw an article today that had moved on to plant extinctions.

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    Geoffrey Williams

    Of topic but polar bears and pacific walrus all doing well despite global warming and untruths from Sir David Attenborough . . .
    GeoffW
    https://polarbearscience.com

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      Greebo

      It’s unthreaded. Can’t be off topic…

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      Chad

      I have/had huge respect for sir David, his nature programes over most of my life have been standout memorable for their ability to bring the world into my living room.
      I still find them mesmorising ,…but now due only to the stunning photography .!
      The more i listen to his (scripted) commentary and cleaverly assembled visual clips, ..the more i realise how deceptive and manipulative it all can be and is.
      It is obvious that much of the content is constructed to convey a message that the producer wants to spread…not the reality of what is actually happening.
      Sad to see such a icon being used this way.
      But the photography is still absolutely stunning !

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      TdeF

      “their global population size number ‘has never been an estimate of total abundance in a scientific sense, but simply a qualified guess given to satisfy public demand.’”

      So when we were told that Bear population were plummeting and the poor things were dying everywhere from lack of sea ice, that was a guess to satisfy public demand also? So many things were just made up to turn minor warming into end of the world stories.

      It’s all made up, which is why we now have undefined Climate Change. Warming was measureable and it isn’t happening, so it’s now vague threats of things, portents and auguries. 12 years to go to the end of the world. Business as usual for the left of politics. Play it again scam.

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    pat

    madness:

    11 Jun: ClimateNewsNetwork: African city heat is set to grow intolerably
    by Tim Radford
    Up to a third of urban dwellers could soon face extreme African city heat and humidity. Risks could at worst multiply 50-fold.
    An entire continent faces lethal conditions for many of its people: by 2090, one person in three can expect African city heat in the great conurbations severe enough to expose them to potentially deadly temperatures (LINK)…

    “In the best case, 20 billion person-days will be affected by 2030, compared with 4.2bn in 2010 – a jump, in other words, of 376%” said Guillaume Rohat, of the University of Geneva, who led the study. “This figure climbs to 45bn in 2060 (up 971%) and reaches 86bn in 2090 (up 1947%).
    And that is the best-case scenario…
    https://climatenewsnetwork.net/african-city-heat-is-set-to-grow-intolerably/

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      Bill in Oz

      Yes that’s right !
      That’s the way things go in EVERY city on the planet
      Not just Africa.
      It’s called Urban Heat Island Effect or UHIE.
      There is a solution tho.
      Stop the folks living those African cities using any extra energy
      On Air conditioning, cars, buses, phones, cooking etc.
      But the African city fol aren’t interested
      Any more than Aussies or Brits or yanks
      Etc Etc Etc

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    Robber

    Just checked out an AGL “special offer” for Seniors in Vic. Did you know that for an extra 5.5 cents/kWhr you can sign up for 100% green energy – yet we keep getting told that green is cheaper? :-(
    I wonder how many people go green? Presumably all greenie voters would pay the price?
    For greenie skinflints you could opt to pay an extra $1.80/week and then 20% of your electricity “will be fed into the grid from Accredited GreenPower Generators.” Now that’s odd, because according to Tony 19.7% of electricity is currently supplied by “renewables” anyway. But possibly the 4.6% rooftop solar is not accredited. So for an extra $1.80/week you could go from 15% to 20% “accredited renewables” and hold bragging rights with your greenie friends.
    I wonder if our greenie governments sign up to pay more out of our taxes?

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      OriginalSteve

      I got called once by my energy company and they stupidly asked how they could help with my bills – i said stop gouging me.

      Needless to say i never got any futher calls…..

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      Bill in Oz

      Robber AGL should be offering to supply
      ‘Green” energy 24 hours a day, 7 days a week
      Every week !
      But they can’t. Solar & wind are “unreliables”
      Not renewables.

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      Just checked out an AGL “special offer” for Seniors in Vic. Did you know that for an extra 5.5 cents/kWhr you can sign up for 100% green energy…..

      I want to know, seriously, how AGL can ensure that 100% green energy, having paid for it, is sent directly to your home, if you’re connected to the grid.

      I would also like to know how many people have taken up the offer, and how much ‘green energy’ has actually been sold, because there’s only so much of it.

      Please don’t let them phone me with that offer.

      Tony.

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        Sceptical Sam

        As I’ve said before Tony, they had an offer like that (ACTEW) in Canberra some years ago, after being pressured by the green virtue signallers.

        Needless to say, it was a flop. The greeny hypocrites wouldn’t pay the extra, notwithstanding that they insisted that it be made available.

        They had a better idea and changed tack. They pushed for domestic solar; eventually getting a PV installation subsidy and the subsidized FiT (as high as 66.0 cents/kWh in some cases). Now, as usual, the rest of the country pays for it.

        They won’t take up these initiatives unless you and all the rest of us pay for them. They’re bludgers of the first order.

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      yarpos

      you have to wonder why VIC Seniors is promoting a non VIC retailer vs providing info on a range of suppliers so people can choose themselves.

      when you open the rates page for AGL is costed in Mj rather than kWh which is bizzare. They seem to be deliberately obfuscating the deal and avoiding comparison. Most people dont know what either means let alone doing conversions.

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    Zane

    I previously remarked that it will soon be time to stock up on candles and matches, but I fear these too will be banned by the Green collective. Burning a candle obviously releases CO2 and thus causes species extinction, whilst matches involve using wood trees, another no no. I have thought hard about what an acceptable method of future indoor illumination may be, since whale oil or beef tallow lamps will naturally also break green vegan rules. Kerosene is also out. The only remaining option might be to breed and maintain a jar full of pet fireflies. Surely Big Brother Green will approve of this natural and renewable light source?

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    Zane

    Guardian says the UK has committed to zero carbon emissions by 2050. It seems quite a few politicians there should be committed to another kind of place for this act of lunacy.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    you could be ingesting a teaspoonful of plastic every week according to The Australian and ABC and the SMH. This was a study conducted by Newcastle Uni, which for once, is not about coal

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    Maptram

    This was a Starts at 60 Daily Joke but perhaps it’s about all the people who believe in climate change

    One of the world’s best scientists is preparing to speak at an important conference. On the way there he tells his driver, who looks a bit like him:”I’m sick of all these conferences. I always say the same things over and over!”
    The driver agrees: “You’re right. As your driver, I attend all of them and, even though I don’t know anything about science, I could give the conference in your place.”
    “That’s a great idea!” says the scientist. “Let’s switch places then!”
    So they switch clothes and as soon as they arrive, the driver dresses as the scientist, goes on stage and starts giving the usual speech, while the real scientist, dressed as the car driver, sits in the audience.
    However, in the crowd there is one man who wants to impress everyone and thinks of a very difficult question to ask the scientist, hoping he won’t be able to respond. So the man stands up and interrupts the conference. The whole room goes silent and holds their breath, waiting for the scientist to answer.
    The driver looks at him, dead in the eye, and says: “Sir, your question is so easy to answer that I’m going to let my driver answer it for me.”

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    Another Ian

    I notice that Andrew Bolt’s blog has been very quiet for a week or so?

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      Dennis

      Enjoying three weeks holiday, apparently overseas including visiting his daughter in Scotland.

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      el gordo

      His segment on Sky has been taken over by someone who lacks Bolt’s timing and he sounds like a a shock jock trying to get into TV. He is just keeping the seat warm.

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        Hanrahan

        Ben Fordham, a “shock jock” from the Melbourne radio station Bolt used to do nights on. Bolt lives the good life now, 4 nights a week and two breaks a year. School teachers will be jealous. :)

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        John Watt

        Just watch out for Fordham. With Speers on his way to Auntie we may be seeing more of him. Jones is a shock jock and he makes more sense than the rest of Sky put together so perhaps Fordham could be the next big thing.

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        Chad

        Ben Fordham is no dummy. He is on Macquarrie National radio across the country “Drive Time” 3 – 6 pm daily and is reknown for asking those tricky , yet obvious, questions of key politicians.
        He is very much a young Alan Jones / Andrew Bolt type.

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    toorightmate

    ABC News website says “Who is John Setka and why is he such a headache for Labor?”.
    My response; ALP is overloaded with John Setkas and so is the ABC.
    I have not met Setka, but I did have some very unsavoury dealings with Bruce Wilson in the 1980s and Setka sure smells the same as Wilson.
    Let’s not forget that the founding national president of the CFMEU is currently in gaol – where he belongs.

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    MudCrab

    Anyone seen the reports of the giant wolf head they found in the permafrost in Siberia?

    I guess they would make good pets, but only if you have a big back yard… and the odd spare child for snack times.

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    pat

    theirABC knows how to pick ‘em:

    12 Jun: ABC: Nearly a billion people facing high exposure to climate change effects, Global Peace Index finds
    The World By Tracey Shelton and Yvonne Yong
    Posted 24 minutes ago
    In the annual Global Peace Index released today, the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP) said an estimated 971 million people — including more than 2.4 million Australians — live in areas with high or very high exposure to climate hazards including cyclones, floods, bushfires, desertification and rising sea levels…

    IEP founder and executive chairman ***Steve Killelea told the ABC that many of the countries in the Asia-Pacific region also have weaker coping capacities for natural disasters…
    Farmers in Australia have begun migrating south to greener pastures, as droughts and desertification devastate northern regions…
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-12/climate-change-hazards-global-peace-index-report/11198144

    ***Steve Killelea:

    12 Jun: BusinessInsider: The world is more confident in China’s leadership than the US’, according to a new report
    by John Haltiwanger
    •Confidence in US leadership declined significantly between 2016 and 2017, according to a new report from the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP).
    •The report found people on average now have more confidence in Chinese leadership than in US leadership.
    •***Steve Killelea, the founder and executive chairman of IEP, told INSIDER that global confidence in US leadership experienced a “precipitous drop” after Trump’s election.
    •Killelea pointed to the “poor press” Trump has received internationally, while noting that global confidence in the US was much higher under former President Barack Obama…
    https://www.businessinsider.my/trump-world-more-confident-in-china-leadership-than-us-2019-6/

    Killelea’s Wikipedia page will show just how unfit he is to know a thing about the science of CAGW.

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      pat

      Steve Killelea, GLOBALIST:

      Wikipedia: Institute for Economics and Peace
      The Institute for Economics & Peace (IEP), is a global think tank headquartered in Sydney, Australia with branches in New York City, Mexico City and The Hague. The IEP is chaired by technology entrepreneur ***Steve Killelea founder of Integrated Research.

      IEP works in partnership with a number of think tanks, NGOs and academic institutions including the ***Aspen Institute, Center for Strategic and International Studies, International Peace Institute, ***Open Society Foundations, and King’s College London. It also collaborates with intergovernmental organizations such as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the Commonwealth Secretariat, ***United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), UNICEF, NATO, the ***World Bank Group, and UN Peacebuilding Support Office…

      IEP is also a member of the Sustainable Development Goal 16 Data Initiative, which is a consortium that compiles existing global data to assist in tracking progress towards achieving Goal 16…
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Economics_and_Peace

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    DonS

    Hi Jo

    I just heard that the Northern Territory government has given the go ahead for hydraulic fracturing to be used to extract LNG up there. Gas resource estimates for the Beetalou? basin alone indicate that this one geological zone could provide the domestic gas needs of Australia for about 400 years! This a Labour government up there too so screaming from the ABC or convoys of green fools are NOT expected.

    So how much of this magnificent bounty of energy will make it through the new gas pipeline to Mt Isa and into the eastern gas market to create jobs and employment and affordable power here? Not mush I would guess going by past experience. It will be bottled up by the usual suspects (AGL, Santos, Chevron etc.)and shipped to China at the lowest price to provide our favorite totalitarians with another source of cheap energy in their quest to unseat the USA as worlds leading economy.

    The only time we will see this gas again is when AGL re-import it through the new LNG terminal in Sydney and sell it back to consumers at top price. After what they did with the North West shelf gas are we really dumb enough to let them do it to us again? Sadly I think probably.

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      Graeme#4

      The WA govt linked Kalgoorlie to the NW gas with a 1400 km gas pipeline, installed in just one year, for $400m. Yet the folks that want to ship gas all the way down To Victoria, then run pipelines through prime farming land, claim that building gas pipelines through the outback is too expensive.

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      Graeme#4

      If you are saying that there is something wrong with exporting gas from the NW shelf, may I remind you that WA has a domestic gas reservation policy in place that delivers adequate amounts of gas for domestic and industrial use at reasonable prices. Also WA derives around 40% of its electricity from gas and still manages to have reasonable electricity prices. Thankfully, we aren’t connected to the “national” electricity grid, so don’t suffer the problems of this grid.
      Other states could do the same if they used their own gas, together with good domestic gas reservation policies.

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        DonS

        Sorry Graeme#4 I was not saying that exports of gas from the NW self are bad, and I am well aware of the WA gas reserve policies. The point I was trying to make is that this gas is exported at such a low price that we now have the nutty situation that a new LNG Import terminal is to be built near Sydney to bring in gas that is more cheaply available on world markets then the current price of gas in the eastern domestic market.

        The whole situation is so idiotic that I seriously worry what would happen to this country if we didn’t keep having the good fortune to find new stuff to sell off to the lowest bidder. Our international friends get our cheap energy with which to build strong economies while our own businesses get to fight green tape and big government crap that seems designed to turn Aus into a 3rd world banana constitutional monarchy.

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      OriginalSteve

      Yes and Adani has just been given the go ahead….the greens heads must be exploding by now….. ;-)

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    pat

    theirABC has been busy trying to downplay the following:

    12 Jun: ABC: Significant rain for desperate South Australian farmers, but many missing out
    ABC Riverland By Nadia Isa, Luke Radford and Lucas Forbes – Updated about 5 hours ago
    Heavy rain has fallen over parts of South Australia, providing desperately-needed relief for some of the state’s farmers — but unfortunately some areas have missed out.
    Not good news for everyone
    Phil Kernich, who farms east of Yamba in the Riverland: “[This is the] worst [season] it’s been so far since I’ve been farming.
    “This year’s certainly been the driest on record that’s for sure.”…..ON AND ON AND ON
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-12/significant-rain-for-desperate-sa-farmers-but-many-missing-out/11201276

    12 Jun: ABC: Adelaide drenched by heaviest rain since 2016, with more than 4,000 lighting strikes across SA
    Posted about 2 hours ago
    Adelaide has been drenched by a rain band and battered by strong winds and thunderstorms overnight, prompting the State Government to issue a “code blue” to enable those sleeping rough to access additional services…

    As it moved east it dumped more than 65 millimetres at several spots in the Adelaide Hills including Mount Lofty and Aldgate Creek…
    The BOM said while the overnight downpour was “not record breaking”, it was nevertheless a “good rainfall event”.
    “It’s up there as one of the highest daily rainfall totals for Adelaide this time of year,” Ms Egan said…
    The BOM said that today had been the wettest day that Kent Town had seen in more than two years, since December 28, 2016.
    “[On that date] we had 61.2 millimetres in Kent Town, so it’s the wettest day since then,” forecaster Kylie Egan said.
    “But it’s a bit of a way off our record of June for daily totals.”…

    Ms Egan said the BOM believed that some parts of the state had almost reached their average rainfall for the month and warned of more to come…
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-12/rain-wind-thunder-hits-adelaide-and-mount-lofty-ranges/11201790

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    pat

    11 Jun: ClimateChangeNews: UN Environment official attacks agency’s own carbon offsetting policy
    Confusion reigns as UN Environment publishes, then retracts, an article criticising the use of carbon credits to make up for polluting activities.
    By Natalie Sauer
    UN Environment published an unusually stark critique of carbon offsetting on Monday. On Tuesday, the article was taken down, following queries by Climate Home News.

    In the original article, archived by the Wayback Machine (LINK), a climate specialist at the UN organisation warned against considering carbon offsets as “our get-out-jail-free card”.
    “The era of carbon offsets is drawing to a close,” Niklas Hagelberg wrote. “Buying carbon credits in exchange for a clean conscience while you carry on flying, buying diesel cars and powering your home with fossil fuels is no longer acceptable or widely accepted.”…READ ON
    https://climatechangenews.com/2019/06/11/un-environment-official-attacks-agencys-carbon-offsetting-policy/

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    robert rosicka

    Police shoot two suspected terror suspects near Barnawatha , only just up the road really and a top fishing spot .

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    el gordo

    The North Atlantic Oscillation is negative.

    ‘Weather warnings are in place across the UK as torrential rain continues for another day.

    ‘The Met Office has issued a yellow weather warning for parts of the north of England, Midlands, Scotland and Wales on Wednesday.’

    Guardian

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      Graeme#4

      And they still have to find somewhere to offload a large amount of old turbines, because apparently in Germany, the companies are responsible for their removal and site remediation.

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    yarpos

    Cricket World Cup on at the moment. You would think the Poms would put it on in summer, so the crowds dont have to sit around in beanies and anoraks.

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      Annie

      Yeah, still only late Spring!

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        pat

        commentators at Taunton match tonite repetedly talking of how cold, very cold it is.

        PIC: 12 Jun: CricBuzz: ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP 2019: Cricketeers in gloves and two coats
        by Rob Johnston
        Cold rain which chills your soul. It was the worst kind of day, English winter reprised in June…
        It was Lord Byron who said, “The English winter – ending in July to recommence in August”, and he was only half joking…
        https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/108442/cricketeers-in-gloves-and-two-coats

        Cricket World Cup 2019 weather: Latest forecast for Taunton, Southampton and this week’s other grounds
        iNews – 12 Jun 2019
        While supporters across the country expected to be sipping jugs of ice cold Pimm’s, applying layer upon layer of sun cream and watching the world’s best cricketers ply their trade this month, many have instead been forced to sip warming cups of tea, don rain jackets and watch groundstaff apply waterproof covers.

        12 Jun: UK Express: UK weather: When will summer start? Met Office long range forecast amid BRUTAL weather
        By Kate Whitfield
        Unfortunately for sun-lovers, this unsettled weather will continue a bit longer…
        It won’t be too cold though, with temperatures around normal for the time of year…
        Looking further, into the end of June and early July, the Met Office said the forecast through this period is “very uncertain”…
        Moving into mid-July, conditions should recover to normal for the time of year…
        https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1139010/uk-weather-when-will-summer-start-met-office-long-range-forecast

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          pat

          UK Will Cut Net Greenhouse Emissions to Zero, Theresa May Vows
          The New York Times – 2 hours ago

          Theresa May’s ‘net zero’ emissions plan welcomed despite warnings of ‘herculean task’
          Evening Standard – 12 Jun 2019
          The legislation, which needs parliamentary approval, would mean major changes in British life. The Committee on Climate Change wants all new cars to be electric by 2035, the planting of three billion trees and replacing 20 million gas boilers across the country…
          Shadow energy secretary Rebecca Long-Bailey raised concerns over how it would be put into practice and said behavioural change should not be viewed as a “sacrifice”. The CBI said UK firms were “squarely behind” the commitment, but urged long-term policies to support decarbonisation across the economy.

          (UK) Government ‘funding fossil fuel-burning plants abroad’
          Guardian – 10 Jun 2019
          The government has been taken to task by its own MPs for sending billions of pounds overseas to help build power plants that burn fossil fuels while claiming a climate victory on home soil…
          The (environmental) audit committee report found that UK Export Finance (UKEF), which provides lines of credit and insurance to help companies win business overseas, spent £2.6bn in recent years to support the UK’s global energy exports, of which £2.5bn was handed to fossil fuel projects. Only 4% of its funding, or £104m, was used to support renewable energy projects…
          The report emerged days before the government is expected to legislate an ambitious target to reduce the UK’s net greenhouse gas emissions to zero by 2050…
          The UK is also vying to host the UN’s most important climate talks since the Paris agreement next year to draw attention to its climate ambitions…

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            pat

            Weekend weather brings record-low temps, snow By Kendra Evensen
            Idaho State Journal – 12 Jun 2019
            “It seems like it’s April in June,” said Dawn Harmon, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service forecast office in Pocatello…
            Both Pocatello and Idaho Falls set record-low temperatures on Sunday morning. It was 29 degrees in Pocatello, falling below the previous June 9 record, 31, set in 1999. It was 30 in Idaho Falls. Harmon says the former record for that area was 31 and was also set in 1999…
            The weather service issued freeze warnings over the weekend, and there were reports of graupel (snow pellets similar to hail) and, even snow in some communities with higher elevations, Harmon said…
            The weather service posted Idaho Transportation Department webcam photos on Saturday morning showing snow in the area of Henry’s Lake near Highway 20, Blackfoot Reservoir near Highway 34, Pine Creek Pass near Highway 31, Fish Creek Summit near Highway 30 and in the Stanley area.
            “The last time accumulating Snow occurred in June in Island Park was 2008,” according to the weather service’s Facebook post…
            “We don’t often break out the slick driving conditions templates in June, but tonight is no typical June night,” the weather service posted on Facebook on Saturday…

            Late start for California grapes
            The Packer-10 Jun 2019
            Rain and continuing cold weather delayed the harvest in the Coachella Valley by about 10 days compared to last year, and Bakersfield in the San Joaquin Valley may not get underway for some growers until the second week of July.
            Last year, picking started in late May.
            “This is the latest (start) in history out of the Coachella Valley,” (Bianco, co-owner of Bakersfield-based Anthony Vineyards) said.
            The Coachella Valley had the coldest February and March of the past 60 years, if not the coldest ever, he said…
            Mexico, which usually starts shipping a week before Coachella, also was running late, Bianco said…

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            Another Ian

            Looks like time she changed her fortune cookie supplier

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          Annie

          Or, as Michael Flanders said, ‘Summer? I missed it, I was in the bathroom’.
          Last year’s was one of the good ones.

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    pat

    ***NOTE HOW DECEPTIVE REUTERS IS ON “RENEWABLES” / “ONE THIRD”:

    11 Jun: Reuters: Erratic weather boosts energy demand, denting climate goals: BP
    by Ron Bousso
    Extreme temperatures around the globe drove a sharp acceleration in energy demand and carbon emissions last year, oil giant BP said on Tuesday, issuing a stark warning that the world risks losing the battle against climate change.
    And while 2018 saw another sharp pick up in renewable power such as wind and solar, continued growth in oil, gas and coal consumption meant that overall, the world’s energy mix remained “depressingly” flat, BP Chief Economist Spencer Dale said in the company’s benchmark 2019 Statistical Review of World Energy.
    The 2.9% rise in energy demand in 2018, the fastest rate since 2010, deals a blow to global efforts to meet the 2015 U.N.-backed Paris climate agreement to limit global warming by sharply reducing carbon emissions by the end of the century…

    But while global economic activity cooled last year, energy demand growth was driven by a sharp increase in abnormally hot and cold days around the world, particularly in China, the United States and India, which in turn led consumers to use more energy for cooling and heating.
    Parts of the northern hemisphere were hit by freezing cold weather fronts last winter, only to face record temperatures in summer that resulted in vast fires and droughts.
    In the United States, the combined number of heating and cooling days was the highest since the 1950s, BP said.
    “There is a growing mismatch between societal demands for action on climate change and the actual pace of progress,” Dale said…

    The increase in U.S. oil and gas production was the largest-ever annual increase by any country, BP said.
    Renewable energy grew by 14.5%, nearing the record increase in 2017. The share of renewables in power generation nevertheless remained mostly unchanged, ***accounting for around ***one third.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bp-energy/erratic-weather-boosts-energy-demand-denting-climate-goals-bp-idUSKCN1TC1LX

    11 Jun: BP Statistical Review of World Energy 2019: an unsustainable path
    DOWNLOAD PDF
    Renewables grew by 14.5%, nearing their record-breaking increase in 2017, but this still accounted for only around ***a third of the ***increase in total power generation.
    https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/news-and-insights/press-releases/bp-statistical-review-of-world-energy-2019.html

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      pat

      ***Bloomberg reports the RE data correctly, but includes plenty of nonsense otherwise:

      11 Jun: Bloomberg: Global Emissions Rose the Most in 7 Years, BP Review Shows
      By Jeremy Hodges
      China is adding more renewables than all OECD nations combined.
      Global carbon emissions jumped the most in seven years in 2018 as energy demand surged, according to BP’s annual review of world energy, indicating the world is falling behind in its efforts to rein in climate change…

      Urgency is building around the world to contain a global increase in the temperature, which has risen 1 degree Celsius since the start of the industrial revolution and is on track to at least double that increase by the end of the century. It marks the quickest change in the climate since the end of the last ice age some 10,000 years ago…
      Much of the gains were driven by more volatile weather patterns…

      Even the dirtiest fossil fuel for power generation is increasing. Both consumption and production of coal advanced at their fastest rate for five years, driven by the need for developing economies across Asia to connect millions of homes to a reliable source of electricity…

      Growth in output from wind, solar, geothermal, biomass and burning waste accounted for about a third of the ***increase in total power generation, or the same as the increase in coal.
      “Renewables can’t grow quickly enough,” Dale said.
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-11/global-emissions-rose-the-most-in-7-years-bp-review-shows

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    pat

    11 Jun: BBC: Why is so much of the US under water?
    By Ritu Prasad; additional reporting by Halle Kendall
    Environmental scientist Prof Samuel Munoz of Northeastern University also says 2019 will make the history books.
    It’s “unusual” for the Great Plains and Midwest, he notes, to see this number of repeated strong storms and severe weather in one spring.
    Part of that could be because of El Niño – a natural weather event that brings unusually warm sea-surface temperatures to the Pacific…
    “El Niño conditions tend to enhance precipitation and severe weather over the areas that are flooding,” Prof Munoz explains.

    ***”Manmade climate change intensifies these natural variations, causing more rain to fall in what would already have been a wet year.” …

    “It’s hard to control Mother Nature,” (Keith Hillman, director of the emergency management team in Vilonia, Arkansas) told me, resigned. ***”This is just our time.”…

    Prof Munoz: ***”As the climate continues to change, we need to have a conversation nationally and globally about how we are going to live and work in low-lying areas,” he says…READ ON
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48589651

    Climate change poses major risks to financial markets, regulator warns
    The New York Times – 12 Jun 2019

    Connect the Dots to See Where Trump’s Taking Us
    The New York Times – 14 hours ago

    Carbon Brief re the above: Connect the dots to see where Trump’s taking us
    “Just when you think you’ve seen and heard it all from Donald Trump, he sinks to a new low,” writes an exasperated Thomas L. Friedman, foreign affairs columnist for the New York Times. Trump’s decisions leave you “speechless and wondering: Is he crazy, is he evil, is he maniacally committed to unwinding every good thing Barack Obama did, or is he just plain stupid?”. Trump is embarking on a policy to “revive all the dirty industries of the past and to undermine the clean industries of the future”, Friedman argues, which “utterly fails to connect so many dots that are right now harming our national security, economy, weather and competition with China”. These dots include how global warming is causing “weird weather extremes in all directions”, increasing financial costs for farmers, insurers and the military, and rising disaster relief needs in less developed countries, he says.

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      el gordo

      “Suppose an extreme case of climate change happens, what adverse security effects might it cause?”

      Its a reasonable question, in light of the fact that global cooling has begun and possible monsoon failure may have ramifications.

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    el gordo

    Daintree in north Qld is having an interesting debate.

    ‘The Federal Government last month committed almost $1 million for a feasibility study into the microgrid.

    ‘It would see power generated by new and existing solar panels fed into the microgrid and turned into hydrogen, which would power about 700 homes and be used for seasonal storage and large-scale generators.’

    ABC

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      Graeme No.3

      What is interesting about stupidity? Expensive stupidity?

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        el gordo

        UK going down the gurgler, the PM is suffering from extreme virtue signalling.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-48596775

        What will Boris do?

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        el gordo

        ‘Expensive stupidity?’

        I agree, so we should look at alternatives.

        “If this Government is serious about reducing the cost of living and building visionary infrastructure for all Australians, I’m suggesting they use up to $25 billion of the $144 billion dollars set aside for proposed tax cuts and build the Hybrid Bradfield Scheme and at least one new HELE coal-fired power station.”

        Senator Hansen

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          Kinky Keith

          And those on Social security could pick up their payments at the work sites attached to the two projects.
          Like the 1950s all over again, Nation Building.

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          Hanrahan

          The Bradfield scheme is an “expensive stupidity”. Many speak of it but I have never seen the most rudimentary cost/benefit analysis nor have they nominated a particular river to steal the water from. Remember the locals will only allow flood water to be taken which, for most rivers, is a few days every few years. You would need at least three 1 M pipes with big pumps before all the water would be lost before it reached the Murray.

          This scheme has the attributes of wind/solar power: Too expensive, too unreliable.

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      yarpos

      If all the “micro grid” proposala around the country were laid end to end , the bullsh1t would reach to the moon. Useless subsidy harvesting and ego stroking seems to be what they are really about.

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    Hanrahan

    Has anyone used diatomaceous earth as a soil conditioner? If so how?

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      Graeme#4

      Spent 45 years at my home trying the improve the poor sandy ancient seabed soil of Perth’s sand plain with organic material. The result? Ancient seabed… All the organic material just vanished. Gave up and moved to a townhouse.

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      beowulf

      Diatomaceous earth is up to 90% inert silica so I wouldn’t expect it to have any soil conditioning effect. You might as well spread beach sand on your soil, (although sand in your part of QLD might be carbonate coral fragments rather than silicate rock). There are virtually no chemical interactions going on; no nutritional effects, no pH effects and unlikely to be any structural effects on clay soils for instance. If you have a problem with heavy clay use dolomite which will give you a clay-breaker effect plus a lime effect to lift pH. DE could be effective against soil pests like nematodes though if they are a problem.

      You’re better off with compost for the garden. It has pH buffering, water-retention and nutritional effects; improves structure and permeability. Plants love it and it’s cheap — make your own. Sometimes DE is used in compost heaps to control insects that invade the heap.

      DE is mostly used for direct pest treatment and for consumption. It is used as a sort of powder for lice and mites on cattle and poultry where it clogs up the louse’s mouth parts and/or breathing mechanism, not sure which.

      Some of its effects are a little like activated charcoal or sodium bentonite if you’re familiar with them. When consumed it has an affinity for heavy metals, which apparently attach to it due to its electrical charge, and can then be excreted. There are all sorts of wild health claims for it.

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    Graeme#4

    When are we going to organise a get-together? Wouldn’t be short of things to talk about. Would be a great opportunity to meet some of you face-to-face. Somewhere central, perhaps Sydney or the countryside?

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    el gordo

    Eric Worrall at his scintillating best.

    ‘Though I understand the DNC’s desire to avoid even more publicity for the green mania of some of their presidential candidates, I actually feel a little sympathy for the climate activists.

    ‘In my opinion climate activists have been ruthlessly lied to and abused. The DNC has treated them like trash, useful idiots, giving them hope with grandiose climate emergency declarations, then back peddling, downplaying climate issues, using dirty political tricks like banning a presidential candidate climate debate, to avoid alienating normal people.

    ‘The solution is obvious.’

    wuwt

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