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It’s a tech-wreck: models now use human moods and fashions as a climate forcing

How many climate marches does it take to stop a storm?

Climate protest, USA, Washington, Photo. Photo by Vlad Tchompalov on Unsplash

Photo by Vlad Tchompalov

A new climate model includes “social processes” to predict the climate. They expect the fashionality of hybrid cars or solar PVs will help predict the future climate. So serious researchers are now feeding their models with trends in human behaviour. Though there’s no sign climate models may use the million-mile-an-hour solar wind, nor changes to the solar magnetic field that’s bigger than Earths orbit. They’re also not using solar spectral changes, but who cares about the odd quadrillion joules of ultra violet fritzing or not-fritzing our ozone layer? So much better to track twitter trends on solar panels instead.

The fixation on CO2 is so obsessive compulsive it’s practically a science cult. This kind of work puts the psycho in psychology.

Years from now when everyone agrees it was The Sun, historians are going to fish deep from this well of academic obsession:

New global warming model highlights strong impact of social learning

Human behavior influences a wide range of complex systems, including ecosystems, social networks, and the climate. Moreover, these systems impact human behavior, creating a feedback loop. Human behavior is a driver of climate change, but climate models often neglect how climate change in turn affects human behavior

So far, results are not looking too good.

Who would have guessed that “social norms do not protect against rising temperatures”?

Their analysis suggests that the rate at which people learn about climate mitigation strategies via social interactions, such as hearing that a friend bought a hybrid car, strongly influences climate outcomes. Social learning takes time, so plausible values of this rate alone could raise warming predictions by over 1 degree Celsius.

On the contrary, the model suggests that social norms do not protect against rising temperatures. They initially act against adoption of mitigation behaviors, even when such efforts are strongly justified by rising temperatures, and they do not significantly speed the transition to an emission-free world once mitigation becomes the norm.

No matter what, the answer is always a carbon market:

The researchers also ran the model with different parameters to explore how mitigation efforts could be optimized. “Our socio-climate model indicates that an increase in social media and other campaigns to raise awareness, such as climate marches and international reports, should ideally be followed by governmental and other incentives to reduce carbon emissions,” Bury says.

Don’t ask what future event this model ever predicted.

Senior author, Madhur Anand states that “There are pathways for humans to mitigate climate change, but processes driving behavior and norms at the individual and societal level will be essential to all of them, and our longstanding work on coupled human-environment systems applied here to climate change is providing direction in this regard.”

The researchers note that their model is relatively simple and future research efforts should assess whether models of a higher complexity produce different forecasts. Collaborating author, Chris Bauch says “Mathematical models that capture social dynamics and their interaction with climate trends will become increasingly used in climate research.” Models that accurately capture the interplay between population behavior and climate change could improve predictions and inform mitigation strategies.

Let’s take a stupid simple model and make it stupidly complex. Can I have a grant for that?REFERENCE

  1. Thomas M. Bury, Chris T. Bauch, Madhur Anand. Charting pathways to climate change mitigation in a coupled socio-climate modelPLOS Computational Biology, 2019; 15 (6): e1007000 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pcbi.1007000

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125 comments to It’s a tech-wreck: models now use human moods and fashions as a climate forcing

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    NB

    ‘historians are going to fish deep from this well of academic obsession’
    Academic historians will declare it a great surge of proletarian insight, crushed by a villainous bourgeoisie.
    A private historian, however, might provide some insight.

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      Salome

      Sadly, if history is to survive as a discipline, there will need to be private historians. Lots of them, communicating with each other and upholding standards.

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        Roy Hogue

        With current history being the mess that it is I wonder if any self respecting historian would want to be responsible for writing it all down. Well, just kidding, mostly at least. But what can you say about a generation that speaks anything they think an audience will listen to. And if they have no audience say even more off the wall things and people will rush to prostrate themselves at your feet (almost!).

        I remarked earlier today to my wife that I’m about ready to hope they do get what they want just so I can watch their utopia fail. The only problem with having the last laugh that way is that we go down with them.

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    Graeme No.3

    Hearing the cr*p about ClimateChange endlessly repeated by idi*ts in the media raises my temperature by more than 1℃.
    I don’t know if they are that stup*d orare desperately trying to keep the scam going.

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      Greg in NZ

      G #3, could’ve done with an extra 1˚C here today – 10˚ extra would’ve been cosier – but hey, ski areas are opening up left-right-and-centre (ie. early) coz of all that crisis emergency extinction powder, via Antarctica, settling on the mountain peaks and valley floors. The warmer they shout, the colder it gets.

      https://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Bluff-Knoll/6day/top

      First it froze and snowed in Queensland, now it’s freezing and snowing in West Australia (again) . . . cheers, Albert Junior!

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      Reed Coray

      Or both.

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    Lionell Griffith

    Not even close to being in the real world or even in an alternate parallel universe. Total madness is a much too gentle term for what this delusion represents.

    Whats Next? Are they are going to say that barking at a full moon will control the climate but only if enough people bark together? Then, if the climate continues to be climate, will they say “not enough people are barking”?

    All the more reason to stop feeding them.

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      Annie

      Some might say that too many people are barking…mad.

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      Sceptical Sam

      Lionel,

      It’s a proven climate “science” fact that barking at a full moon makes it go away.

      Do the correlation. I get an r = -1.0.

      It works every time.

      So if it works for a full moon, it’s bound to work for the climate.

      Isn’t it?

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        Lionell Griffith

        It will if magical thinking works in this universe and not barking at the moon results in the full moon not going away. I wouldn’t count on either if I were you.

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          Roy Hogue

          Oh come now Lionell, the more who bark at the moon the better. Remember, this isn’t normal anymore. This years Democrat candidates for president beat out Lewis Carroll, J. R. R. Tolkien and a bunch of others for imagination and creativity. But it gets better. The nonsense of today will not be just a good book to read, it will be the wisdom of tomorrow. Just listen to them if you don’t believe me.

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      Elgorza Narce

      A greater load of crap I have never read ….. This is MontyPythonesque and surely has to be a joke.

      Or do these clowns really take themselves seriously ?

      At least Mr Bury (his head in the sand regarding the success of climate modelling) has sufficient courage of his convictions to provide an email address for us all to provide feedback on his life’s work. tbury@uwaterloo.ca

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    OriginalSteve

    Climate models equals big fat zero.

    Any modification or adaption of zero is always….zero.

    It always points back to slavery under a UN backed theory or model or some other whacked out climate fluff and nonsense…

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    ivan

    In the real world this is known as clutching at straws to prevent yourself appearing as a complete idiot.

    It never works and just shows that the one using it is a complete idiot.

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    mem

    Trying to turn a nations electricity grid into a machine to change the weather is beyond insanity. Heaven help those that have fallen for this nonsense.

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    OriginalSteve

    O/T but shows how crazy things are going….i wonder if they will ban wet dish clothes next…or socks…socks can be vicious things you know…they mug unsuspecting undergarments when youre not looking….

    /sarc

    https://thefreethoughtproject.com/knife-bans-stop-crimes-judge-forcing-citizens-dull-kitchen-knives/

    “The United Kingdom, a country known for its strict gun laws, is now battling soaring knife crime rates, and as bans on the utensils have failed, one judge is now suggesting that citizens should be forced to dull their kitchen knives in an effort to help prevent crime.

    “Luton Crown Court Judge Nic Madge said he fully supports a government ban on knives, according to a report from The Telegraph. The logic he used to argue for new legal restrictions was eerily similar to the talking points used by politicians in the United States who seek stricter gun control laws.

    “Why we do need eight-inch or ten-inch kitchen knives with points?” Madge said. “Butchers and fishmongers do, but how often, if at all, does a domestic chef use the point of an eight-inch or ten-inch knife? Rarely, if at all.”

    “The judge acknowledged that the government can only do so much, and while it can ban certain large knives, it is not likely that it will be successful in banning all kitchen knives—and convincing the public to comply. Because of this, he argued that the public should turn their attention to corralling “lethal knives which are potential murder weapons” that can be found in every kitchen.

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      Graeme No.3

      Steve:

      What happens if you want to commit suicide? Nothing more useless than a blunt knife for that.
      I think we will have to launch an anti-discrimination appeal on behalf of the suicidally inclined, especially as they may not be around to prosecute their case.

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      JoKaH

      “lethal knives which are potential murder weapons”

      What about lethal screw drivers and lethal scissors that also can be found in homes.

      Or for that matter what about lethal garden stakes, jousting lances, etc.

      (I think I watch too many episodes of Midsomer Murders)

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        Annie

        We used to, to see the English countryside and we nicknamed it Midsomer Mayhem. There are so many strange and unpleasant characters in it as well as the usual Col Blimp-type, bossy WI-type and daft/sinister parson-type that it is a wonder that Midsomer has any population left.

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          Bill in Oz

          Annie Midsumer is an English
          Version of that US film
          Where time is thrown back a day
          Every day day for years…

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        yarpos

        Hope the Judge doesnt see a John Wick movie , the UK will be reduced to crayons (he kills with a pencil)

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      MudCrab

      Can I hazard a guess that this judge doesn’t do his own cooking?

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    WXcycles

    The fixation on CO2 is so obsessive compulsive it’s practically a science cult. This kind of work puts the psycho in psychology. Years from now when everyone agrees it was The Sun, historians are going to fish deep from this well of academic obsession:

    Still think the closing of psyche-wards in the western world has had a lot to do with the global emergence of climate-derangement syndrome hysteria.

    The UN IPCC may be the trigger mechanism and organizing proinciple, but it alone can not explain the full scope of the complete loss of all marbles over an entire planet.

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      OriginalSteve

      Ive always said its a spiritual sickness….

      From my Christian perspective,when you look back in the Old Testament , when the ancient Israelites rejected God, bad stuff would happen, as God withdrew His protections and blessings. Globally, this has been going on, and just recently Australia decisively turned its back on God in a recent referendum last year. Bad stuff will follow because God said it would.

      What we are seeibg now, is a demonuc con job in operation – the devil has conned peopke into rejectibg God, and is niw usibg the same peopke as his pkay things. IMHO, all the recent zombie movies are symbolic if our planets spiritual condition.

      15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction.”
      ( Duet 30:15 ) The full text in deeper context runs through verses 15-20.

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        OriginalSteve

        Sorry…fat fingers..

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          WXcycles

          Occam’s Razor suggests it’s just a common bunch of idiots, doing what idiots do.

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            Richard Ilfeld

            Occam’s Razor suggests that we start discussions of climate with the Sun.
            Many environmentalists & academics have beards.
            Hmmmm.

            Seriously, though, “it’s complicated” means “I’m telling a lie, and will sic the PC folks on you if you all me out!”.
            Why, again, do we support Universities so lavishly?

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    Graeme No.3

    O/T?
    Expect an avalanche of demented ignoramus’s in the near future.

    Chris Pyne The former federal defence and education minister, who retired from parliament at the May election after 26 years in office, is taking on a new role as an “industry professor” at the university.
    Former South Australian premier Jay Weatherill is taking up the same appointment within the University of South Australia Business School.
    “They will bring not only intellectual acumen to their professorships but also a career’s worth of high-level experience in negotiation, international trade, legislation and community consultation and debate, industry liaison, and the host of adaptive skills that are the hallmark of successful leaders.”
    Ye gods and little fish brains.

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      Bill in Oz

      Well Uni SA has always had a reputation as being second rate.
      Dishing out taxpayers money on idiot pollies
      Is just par or the course Graeme.

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      yarpos

      smoothly transitioning from one gig to the next where the money is good and outcomes irrelevant

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      Stanley

      To link Christopher with industry know-how and professionalism is a big call. Why are we spending north of 50B dollars on manned submarines for the next half a century? The RAN today cannot even man a dry docked frigate and is already suggesting embracing unmanned vessel technology. Scrap the sub programme.

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    David Harvey

    And still no mention of the strong correlation between temperature and finding given to alarmists?

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    Why use a term like “beat it up” when you can say the same thing in several paragraphs of dense academese?

    It’s plausibly suggested by analysis of socio-climate models on coupled human-climate systems, right? You just need to unpack and process the feedback on pathways driving exploration of mitigative behaviours.

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      Graeme No.3

      mosomoso:

      It’s to disguise the cr*p. For example ‘barking mad’ is easily understood, whereas ‘extreme public outcry’ sounds as if it means something other than the usual suspects are baying at the moon.
      I am sure you, or other readers, can make some academic description of ‘foaming at the mouth’, ‘looney’, ‘nutcase’, ‘mentally unstable’ etc.
      But I point out that ’6 protesters in one spot’ translates into ‘lead item on the ABC News’.

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        I need to unpack and process this post-perceptual/pre-rationalist analysis of coupled human-informational communication pathways in a socio-political context viewed from a patrilineal/ethno-hierarchical and paleo-gendered privilege perspective.

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    pat

    raining at Roland Garros, so flipped channels for a minute and caught SkyUK doing yet another anti-Trump news item around his departure from Europe.
    spoke to a little boy, aged about 9 probably, who said something about Trump being a man who thought he knew what to do, but didn’t.
    then had some nobody MP say the trip had been educational for Trump for some reason.

    ended with Trump boarding his plane and the Sky woman saying he may have learned something during his trip about climate change and globalisation, but don’t expect him to stop tweeting from the hip any time soon!

    this is the kind of garbage that has rightly led to the phrase FakeNewsMSM.

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      OriginalSteve

      Taking the word of a 9 year old boy as meaningful…….its a bit like letting a 16 year old Swedish girl set climate policy……

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      yarpos

      Funny how there are so many empty seats at the semis and the womens final. More intersted in a nice lunch than the tennis I guess.

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    Annie

    I really cannot decide whether to laugh or cry, reading that load of old nonsense! Whatever next?!

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      Reed Coray

      I’m with you Annie. A model that includes a term for human sociological response to predict future climate is as close as you can get to stupidity. Come to think of it, does the model have a term for human stupidity?

      As far as laughing or crying goes–since I was laughing when I penned this comment, I guess I have the answer.

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        Reed Coray

        Better than that, the model ain’t worth s**t unless it has a term for Stephan Lewandowsky’s impact on the climate.

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          Annie

          Do we put out more CO2 with laughing, increasing amounts with increasing laughter?! Perhaps that’s why greenies look so tight-lipped and serious and want to boss the rest of society around.
          Laugh long and loudly and do the plants a favour!

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      Another Ian

      Annie

      Afraid that is brand new, state of the art, nonsense

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    Wait till they find out that their precious d@mned renewables don’t actually work.

    That will not be pretty.

    Tony.

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      Bill in Oz

      Tony I like to point out something I notice a lot here in the Adelaide Hills.
      Lots of people plant trees in their gardens. And trees grow and need sunlight to grow.
      And the trees shade the solar panels on the roofs which also need sunlight to actually be useful.
      A s I drive around my town I se this all the time.
      It’s rare to see a house with solar panels located so they can get sunlight without being shaded by trees.
      And it’s June now. Only 9 hours of sunlight each day.

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    In a related article, former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has committed $US500 Million to closing down coal fired power plants in the U.S. and to also stopping the mad headlong rush to natural gas fired power plants.

    All this from a man whose former bailiwick included Manhattan Island, just a small jurisdiction in NYC, but it consumes more electrical power in one year than ….. 20 African Nations combined.

    You’d think people like this would take advice before they came out and committed to something like this so publicly. I wonder if he has a back out clause.

    Why am I reminded of that old adage ….. “A fool and his money …..”

    Tony.

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    pat

    make sense of this?
    yet another ABC “climate genius”, Alan Weedon, has a lot of rubbish to say:

    Updated 6 Jun: ABC: The Pentagon is defying Donald Trump to protect its bases from climate change
    By Alan Weedon
    Without the American Midwest, the world would not have Aretha, the Jacksons, Motown, or the road trip…
    One such place is Omaha, Nebraska — a town of just over 400,000 people — home to the Offutt Air Force Base, the place which manufactured the first aircraft in history to drop an atomic bomb, the Enola Gay…
    But earlier this year, a bomb-cyclone — a storm where cold and warm air meet, triggering a rapid drop in pressure at its centre — brought blizzards and thunderstorms across the Midwest in spring…
    Last year, a Pentagon report found over half of the military’s bases worldwide would suffer from climate change-related weather extremes, such as drought, flooding and high winds…

    Climate change might trigger more ‘sacrifice zones’
    American author Jeff Goodell detailed some of the threats posed by sea level rise in his book The Water Will Come: Rising Seas, Sinking Cities and the Remaking of the Civilised World.
    He wrote that “virtually all” of the Pentagon’s real estate portfolio of 555,000 facilities stretched across 11.1 million hectares of land “will be impacted by climate change in some way”…
    This portfolio includes bases that guarantee the security of US allies — including Australia…

    Adaptation in the age of Trump requires doublespeak
    But the Pentagon’s assessment runs contrary to the agenda of the Trump administration, which has sought to downplay climate change’s threat to global security.
    Despite this conflict between the White House and the Pentagon, defence planners have usually found a workaround to the roadblocks presented — and that’s because of doublespeak.
    “You will not find the words climate change in any [Defence] document or budget submission, instead they talk about adapting to catastrophic weather or sea level rise but they can’t say why it was caused,” (Stephen Cheney, CEO of the American Security Project) says.
    “It’s an absolute joke. It just boggles your mind.”…

    For Mr Goodell, the Pentagon’s logic is considered, and he notes the Pentagon’s history of practicality.
    “Military leaders embraced desegregation long before the rest of the nation, in part because they wanted the best people they could find, no matter what colour,” Mr Goodell wrote
    He explains that the Pentagon has learned how to get climate change adaptation past politicians, by talking about “climate in much the way eighth graders talk about sex — with code words and winks and suggestive language”.
    “They know better than to talk about [climate change] directly and forcefully, lest they anger the elected officials who fund their projects and who believe that climate change is not a problem.”…
    “Many military commanders don’t need to read a scientific report to figure this out — they are seeing the impacts of climate change with their own eyes,” ***Mr Goodell wrote.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-05/how-the-pentagon-is-adapting-to-climate-change-in-the-trump-era/11089134

    ***Mr. Goodell:

    Sept 2013: WUWT: Anthony Watts: On the cover of the Rolling Stone? Not quite, but I did get a single word in
    Rolling Stone’s Jeff Goodell demonstrates what a biased journalist he is.
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/12/on-the-cover-of-the-rolling-stone-not-quite-but-i-did-get-a-single-word-in/

    2017: Rolling Stone: Jeff Goodell: Scott Pruitt’s Crimes Against Nature
    Trump’s EPA chief is gutting the agency, defunding science and serving the fossil-fuel industry

    2018: Rolling Stone: Jeff Goodell: Welcome to the Age of Climate Migration
    Extreme weather due to climate change displaced more than a million people from their homes last year. It could soon reshape the nation

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    pat

    something not to look forward to on ABC Landline later today.
    easy to imagine this, like Al Gore’s visit, was planned and recorded before the climate election results came in:

    8 Jun: ABC: Carbon neutral livestock production — consumers want it and farmers say it is achievable
    Landline By Angus Verley, Aneeta Bhole, Tyne Logan and Lydia Burton
    Meat and Livestock Australia (MLA) believes a zero carbon footprint nationally — considered by some the holy grail for the red meat industry — is possible by 2030.
    It is a target that has the backing of some of the industry’s leading farmers, and the demand for projects is on the rise.
    Climate Friendly, a carbon farming project developer, said the policy was a “hotbed of action”…

    But Mr Wootton said there needed to be market incentives to produce carbon neutral meat to encourage more farmers to take it up.
    “We just need some market signals there to reward people like us for doing things like that,” he said…

    While the goal by MLA has been welcomed, it has been met with some scepticism on its achievability…
    To help with the shift, Mr Pensini has hired the help of carbon consultant Kent Broad…
    At the very end of the supply chain, there are some restaurants aiming to only serve meat that comes without a carbon footprint.
    Ash Martin, head chef at Spicers Balfour, said consumers were increasingly demanding a more environmentally friendly product…
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-06-08/carbon-neutral-livestock-achievable-by-2030-says-mla/11046592

    unbelievable.

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      Graeme No.3

      pat:

      I assume that when they prepared this episode that they assumed that there would be public subsidies.

      I know, cows are ‘grass recycling machines’ because new grass grows (absorbing CO2) therefore ‘fighting global warming (insert latest code)’. But has anyone at the ABC seen the emissions from the other end of a cow? Perhaps, because the ABC certainly collect those from bulls.

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        truth

        ‘market incentives’ and ‘market signals’-the sound track of the CAGW ‘cheaper than coal’ RE cult…a giant suckerfish global Socialist hex on Western democracies.

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      Robber

      Clearly the next campaign must be for a zero carbon human footprint – volunteers welcome. No exhaling without a gas mask that absorbs all the CO2.

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    pat

    renowned in theirABC’s minds:

    7 Jun: ABC: Al Gore speaks in Brisbane but avoids an inconvenient elephant in the room
    By state political reporter Allyson Horn
    Renowned climate change campaigner Al Gore came to Australia’s coal capital on taxpayer money and lunched with Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk today. Neither of them mentioned Adani.
    Mr Gore is a vocal advocate for a different climate future. He is pro-renewables and anti-coal.
    His documentary An Inconvenient Truth, in which he voiced his concerns about the impacts of climate change, won an Academy Award in 2007…

    The former United States vice president had just met Ms Palaszczuk when he addressed a room of hundreds about the economics of climate change.
    He spoke of a “sustainable revolution” involving solar and wind technology, but there was no discussion of Adani’s proposed Carmichael coal mine in Central Queensland…

    Mr Gore also suggested coal production for India, as proposed with Adani’s mine, may not be needed…
    Meanwhile, about 300 university students gathered at King George Square in Brisbane’s CBD to rally against the proposed Adani coal mine.
    Greens member Michael Berkman was one of several speakers at the event concerned about the State Government’s ongoing support of the Carmichael coal project
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-07/adani-mine-not-mentioned-as-al-gore-speaks-in-brisbane/11191116

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    pat

    anonymous, but alarming:

    7 Jun: Daily Beast: 1. ALARMING: Trump Officials Blocked Intelligence Staffer’s Climate Change Testimony: Report
    by Allison Quinn, Breaking News Reporter
    White House officials reportedly blocked a State Department intelligence aide from submitting written testimony to the House Intelligence Committee on the dangers of climate change because some references in the document contradicted the Trump administration’s official stance on the matter. Senior administration officials cited by The Washington Post said Trump officials tried to cut several pages from the testimony because it did not “jibe” with the White House’s understanding of climate science.
    The 12-page testimony reportedly warned of how greenhouse gas emissions are raising temperatures across the globe and causing a surge in extreme weather.

    The intelligence aide trying to submit the testimony, Rod Schoonover, works in the State Department’s office of geography and global affairs and had sought to include the documents in a hearing on Wednesday. The White House Office of Legislative Affairs allowed Schoonover to testify before the panel but ultimately barred him from submitting his written testimony, according to officials cited by the Post, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
    LINK (WaPo behind paywall)
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-officials-blocked-intelligence-staffers-climate-change-testimony-report

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      WXcycles

      … and causing a surge in extreme weather.

      I’d like to see the author under cross-examination try to put substance to that outright lie without committing perjury.

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    truth

    This fits like a glove with the emerging CAGW CULT MO.

    There’s a great deal of circular argument in climate ‘science’-remember one of Australia’s star climate scientists had his circular argument exposed and discredited after his paper had sailed through peer review….no questions asked.

    AEMO et al regularly make statements that this is a consumer-led transition…that Australians just decided to spend thousands on roof panels and batteries because they were seduced by the technology…no mention of the fact that they had the bejesus scared out of them by the stratospheric price increases caused by RE’s subsidies after Turnbull ratified and called in the carpetbaggers and by the favored status for dispatch mandated by Government…that sent wholesale prices soaring.

    So now the argument goes that the transition is unstoppable because Australian consumers were so gung ho for it that AEMO and Government had to give them wanted then and have to go the max now…resistance is ‘futile’.

    Of course the thinking will be that labelling it ‘consumer-led’ exonerates the authorities for the massive cost to consumers and the chaos and destruction of Australia’s future when Australia becomes the only developed country on earth that’s forced by its Government to try to survive with zero baseload electricity forever…just a 100% weather-dependent electricity system with weather-dependent props…while all of Australia’s trading partners and competitors..UK..US..Canada..EU..Nordic countries all have the security of baseload electricity forever..via nuclear..river hydro…huge biomass-burning and multiple interconnectors between them…forever.

    Similarly the massive cost of all the props..batteries..pumped hydro…new interconnectors and transmission lines plus the Marinus link …costs borne by the consumer either in bills or TPM….is never ever described as a spend but as a ‘saving’.

    Presumably the idea is that compliance with Paris being compulsory…resistance being futile…we’d have to pay a huge tax or make a huge carbon credits purchase for carbon emissions were we to continue with coal-fired power….so the billions on transmission etc declared as ‘savings’ are the difference between that tax and the undisclosed total cost of the new spend on subsidies and props in order to make it all kosher and Paris-compliant.

    Of course if that spend blows out…as it surely will…. the consumer will be to blame…never the authorities or the carpetbaggers …not even BIG BIZ…. because it’s been established that the consumer just had to have…was lusting after… that sexy new technology.

    It’s unsurprising that the whole thing has come over all social science either.

    As Allan Bloom says in The Closing of the American Mind …the Social scientists have always had an inferiority complex about the natural scientists…always trying to prove themselves their equals.

    CAGW has proven to be the Left’s great opportunity on many fronts.

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      Kinky Keith

      Great comment Truth.

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      Another Ian

      And Australia streaks to an astounding lead in the “Power Lemmings” race to the cliff

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      WXcycles

      Social scientists

      That term in itself is a fantasy, there’s no such critter, they usurp reflected-glory from actual science in the form of institutional fraud in the humanities.

      Once called an “inferiority complex“.

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    observa

    New global warming model highlights strong impact of socialist learning

    Fixed!

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    graham dunton

    2019-06-09-gd.d-Alan Jones reads letter- from a listener right on topic

    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6044350406001

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    Lawrie Ayres

    I was lucky enough to be in Dublin on Friday and ran into a climate action now protest. 10 teens and 4 old folk made up the mob. People watching, one Garda who thought they were nuts.

    Great to see the lack of interest. I asked a lady a few difficult questions like “what percentage of the atmosphere is CO2?”. Im not a scientist, I dont know. Ignorance rules supreme.

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      PeterS

      Then ask the question how much of that (tiny) % is man-made. The answer of course is tiny. So tiny times tiny means effectively if not actually zero impact on the climate. It would be like taxing ourselves to economic ruin to try and stop the next star in the Universe from exploding. Ignorance by much of the public is the means by which the rich scam artists are peddling their renewables solutions to a non-problem to get even more rich. In spite of that both our government and opposition keep encouraging this scam. Unfortunately we don’t have a well known leader who exposes the truth about all this.

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      BoyfromTottenham

      You could have told her that humans act as CO2 a concentrator because the air they exhale has 100 times as much CO2 as the air they inhale. Lol.

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    The 1955 Solomon Asch experiment showed that 75% of educated Americans will lie about the length of a line merely to go along with the crowd–without a penny’s worth of gain or profit. We see all around us that these same folks, and then some, sincerely and piously believe anything they are paid to believe. In a democracy (where voters are not coerced at gunpoint), roughly half bother to vote. That half is repeatedly urged to vote for one or the other half of a kleptocracy soft machine. Dinning incessantly in the background is that a libertarian vote is wasted even though it makes the worst looter lose. Voting libertarian gradually repeals bad laws just as voting for George Wallaces party caused politicians to vote for sharia laws and “whites only” lunch counters before the LP existed. We are close to 4% of the voters now, and determine electoral votes in over a dozen states–and we like electrical energy. See “The 25% v: Social Pressure”

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    PeterS

    I find it amusing how so many people including many scientists put so much faith in the climate models when they always get the predictions wrong and so have to keep adjusting them. One might as well use a three sided die to decide if the climate will warm, cool or stay the same over the foreseeable future. They would have a better chance of getting it right although all for the wrong reasons of course.

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      Another Ian

      Put to practical use.

      Reported that a farmer was agonising over whether to plant or not. Then he heard the seasonal outlook as “projected” by a well known figure in that field.

      “And he’s been wrong so many times that I planted”

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      Bill in Oz

      At the end of April our local rag reported that BOM was predicting a dry May.
      However we had 28% more than the long term average in May.
      So BOM could not predict the weather a few weeks away, never mind the climate months or years into the future
      Most local farmers know this.
      They know that BOM is great at providing unreliable information and so misinforms us.
      Not enough farmer type folk in their staff and too bloody many young tertiary educated idiots.
      Keen on their computer created climate models inside their air conditioned buildings.

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    Another Ian

    ” Pat Frank
    June 8, 2019 at 10:43 am

    I’ve finally realized, Pamela, that absence of evidence is evidence of absence of evidence.

    No hole is left for the usual squirmy ‘well, it may be true anyway‘ to creep back in.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/08/ross-mckitrick-this-scientist-proved-climate-change-isnt-causing-extreme-weather-so-politicians-attacked/#comment-2719054

    Good reading in the two threads above it (IMO)

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    David Maddison

    Just as there is Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) we need to come up with a syndrome name for the warmists, which are generally the same people with TDS anyway.

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      PeterS

      As most of us know there are several types of people who believe in the CAGW story. They can be ignorant, greedy scam artists, and/or gullible. They are all effectively deranged in one form or another. It’s unfortunate that a lot of scientists, politicians and business leaders fall into at least one of those categories, the vast majority being from the West. I won’t go into the details here as to why the West but those who study history will understand.

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    David Wojick

    In the warped wacky world of climate models this social feedback stuff makes some sense. For example, a big driver of climate change is emissions, which result from human activity. Today’s models impose a given emission scenario. But climate changes could cause people to change the scenario. If they choose to reduce emissions that could be considered a negative feedback.

    So now the modeler are considering adding models of changes in human behavior, in reaction to climate change, which in turn change the climate. Interestingly, systems like this may exhibit erratic behavior. But wait, that is just what we are seeing!

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      PeterS

      There are too many variables and unknowns to comprehend and model accurately the short term variations let alone the longer term ones. Besides our climate is extremely resilient in spite of what many people think. We have had major events that caused violent changes to the climate but over time it returns to normality. Of course there are limitations to how well our climate can bounce back. For example, if we let off all our nukes it might cause a significant change but even then it will return back to normal in the long run unless we some doomsday weapon we haven’t heard of yet that could destroy the whole planet. So a tiny and gradual change in the CO2 content of our atmosphere is hardly going to make a noticeable impact on the climate let alone run it off the rails as the alarmists keep warning us. The climate adapts to such tiny changes very readily without any help from us. It really is time to call on the alarmists to show us the real evidence of the alleged CAGW or else they go directly to prison for causing unnecessary alarm to public on a grand scale and aiding and abetting to scam artists fleecing the public of massive amounts of money only to satisfy the greed of the scam artists. That’s called a major crime in any other area punishable with life long prison sentences. Scam artists in the past have received such punishment for much less.

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        el gordo

        ‘… call on the alarmists to show us the real evidence of the alleged CAGW …’

        Its the accepted paradigm, so we have to supply evidence that they are wrong, and in this way we’ll bring about a paradigm shift.

        This story on magnetism is going the rounds and it suggests the Western Pacific is a place of interest.

        https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1254-8

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        David Wojick

        I quite agree, but I follow these folks closely, because they are very dangerous. As a political movement CAGW is a threat on a scale today that communism was 100 years ago. And CAGW is all based on falsely calling modeling science.

        On the behavior modeling side they would first have to recognize the great gulfs of disagreement over climate change, which they are probably incapable of doing, precisely because they are devoted to CAGW. They are mostly just trying to game the global system, trying to figure out how to sell CAGW to the world. Happily they are not up to it.

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          el gordo

          They are brainwashed and we have to come up with a bigger story, like a big triangle in the Western Pacific is important in our understanding of climate change.

          https://web.whoi.edu/jurassicmagnetism/cruise-science-fundamentals/

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          el gordo

          ‘As a political movement CAGW is a threat on a scale today that communism was 100 years ago.’

          Except on this occasion we are having a war of words, nothing to fear, we can’t lose.

          ‘And CAGW is all based on falsely calling modeling science.’

          The modellers are looking for global warming signals, such as thin ice and high temperatures, but if we could program BoM’s super computer to look for cooling signals, they would be useful scientific tools.

          ‘…which they are probably incapable of doing …’

          They need to be shown that good modelling (getting it right) is very lucrative. Leading the charge are small operations, Jennifer Marohasy and John Abbott come to mind.

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    el gordo

    I heard a rumour that people are considering ways to avoid air travel, because of their carbon footprint, the airline industry is fighting back.

    Soon we’ll all be wearing sack cloth made from hemp, which as you all know is better than trees at reducing the trace gas CO2.

    ‘Fast fashion garments, which we wear less than 5 times and keep for 35 days, produce over 400% more carbon emissions per item per year than garments worn 50 times and kept for a full year.

    ‘Cheap synthetic fibers also emit gasses like N2O, which is 300 times more damaging than CO2.

    ‘Over 70 million trees are logged every year and turned into fabrics like rayon, viscose, modal and lyocell.’

    Forbes

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      Annie

      My stuff is years older than that! I must have a very low “carbon” footprint. No fast fashion for me but my favourite woollen coat will be out again with these cold mornings (-1, -1 and 1C the last three).

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        el gordo

        * chuckle *

        The thought police would say your overseas travel footprint is excessive.

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        Another Ian

        A friend was saying in the 1980′s that a major problem for the wool industry was that its products lasted too long.

        An example was a favourite sweater of mine that was knitted about the mid 1960′s and finally retired about the mid 90′s

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          Annie

          My OH still wears a woollen cardigan that is more than 51 years old; it’s a heavy one with the sort of leaather buttons that you find on sheepskin jackets.
          On the other hand, I have had woollen sweaters from M and S that wore out rather too quickly.

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      James Murphy

      We have advanced facial recognition systems on the streets in Darwin and Perth. We have evidence of individuals having their bank accounts closed because they say the “wrong” thing. We have a push to discourage people from owning their own cars capable of long distance transport. We have a push to identify, denounce, and ostracise, and render unemployed (unemployable) anyone with an opinion counter to the MSM (and ABC). We have school children being used as political weapons, and being encouraged to think that the democratic process is bad.

      Do you really think that banning or severely restricting air travel “for your own safety”, or “for the benefit of the environment” is so far-fetched? Want to stop a mine, or an awful lot of the oil industry? Stop airlines from moving fly-in/fly-out workers.

      I don’t think it’s a global conspiracy, it’s just a lot of ruthless people and organisations seeing the benefits of more power and money.

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        PeterS

        I don’t think it’s a global conspiracy, it’s just a lot of ruthless people and organisations seeing the benefits of more power and money.

        It can be and is very likely both. It probably started off as the latter but the globalists have latched onto the CAGW bandwagon to expedite their globalisation agenda of one form or another. If they fail this time around they will latch onto the next major scam to continue their agenda.

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        yarpos

        You can rest assured that none of the Climateriat will have there air travel curtailed and IPCC boondoggles will continue to be well attended. Many thousands will of course turn up to COP25 in Chile (that should good for a few freq flyer points)

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    Ruairi

    Perhaps weak solar cycles derange,
    Human minds and cause climate-change,
    And that those most affected,
    Can be quickly detected,
    When warmist protesters act strange.

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    Travis T. Jones

    A new climate model includes “social processes” to predict the climate.

    When you base your climate model on unstable processes only, you might expect garbage in = garbage out …

    “A student in Wendy Petersen Boring’s climate-change-focused class said she woke at 2 a.m. and then cried for two solid hours about the warming ocean.

    “This is a computer science major,” Petersen Boring said.

    Petersen Boring, an associate professor of history, religious studies, women & gender studies at Willamette University in Oregon, has been teaching about [global warming] for a little over a decade.

    In that short time, she has watched her students’ fear, grief, stress and anxiety grow.”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/07/health/climate-anxiety-eprise/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_content=2019-05-07T10%3A17%3A11&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN

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      David Wojick

      Sounds like psychological child abuse. Hey, teacher, leave them kids alone.

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        Ah!

        A fellow Floyd fan!

        There is no dark side of the Moon really. As a matter of fact, it’s all dark

        Obscure album covers too. Atom Heart Mother. No text at all, just an image of Lulubelle III, a Holstein Freisian cow, taken from the rear.

        Tony.

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          I used ter play it to my students. )

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          WXcycles

          Pink Floyd – Sheep
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-oJt_5JvV4

          Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away
          Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air
          You better watch out
          There may be dogs about
          I’ve looked over Jordan, and I have seen
          Things are not what they seem

          What do you get for pretending the danger’s not real
          Meek and obedient you follow the leader
          Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
          What a surprise!
          A look of terminal shock in your eyes
          Now things are really what they seem
          No, this is no bad dream

          (stone, stone, stone…)
          The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
          He makes me down to lie
          Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by
          With bright knives He releaseth my soul
          He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places
          He converteth me to lamb cutlets
          For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger
          When cometh the day we lowly ones
          Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
          Master the art of karate
          Lo, we shall rise up
          And then we’ll make the bugger’s eyes water

          Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream
          Wave upon wave of demented avengers
          March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream
          Have you heard the news?
          The dogs are dead!
          You better stay home
          And do as you’re told
          Get out of the road if you want to grow old

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      When you need to push your political message well beyond the evidence, bring on the youth denouncement of your opposition,young people, short on experience, easily led, good precedence… in fiction. Orwell’s ’1984′, there’s Parson children, in history, H*tler youth movement, M*o’s Cultural Revolution of youth to purge the impure elements of society, today, UN K-12 values education for Suss Development. When they’re calling on the young to denounce impure elements of society, they show their true colours.

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    OriginalSteve

    O/T but relevant – “Chinese Surveillance Syndrome” creeps down the coast from Darwin ….to Perth…..and Brissie….society slowly losing the plot….

    And once its in, it rarely goes away…and is usually enhanced and expanded…..

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/city-of-perth-rolls-out-new-facial-recognition-cctv-cameras-but-is-it-surveillance-by-stealth/ar-AACy9d0?ocid=mailsignout

    “The activation of new facial recognition camera systems in Perth and Brisbane has raised concerns about how the technology is being quietly introduced by Australian governments as a way of monitoring their citizens.

    “The technology was recently rolled out on the west and east coasts with little, if any, consultation with the public the government plans to watch.

    “Legal experts now say the public must be engaged in a debate about whether they want this powerful technology and how it could affect them in their day-to-day lives.

    “We need to have a robust discussion with the community about … the types of cities we want to live in and the technology we use in them,” said Monique Mann from Australian Privacy Foundation.

    “The City of Perth has just rolled out a 12-month-trial of the technology in 30 CCTV cameras in East Perth, with only three cameras activated to use the technology at any one time.

    “But the beleaguered authority — which is being run by Government-appointed commissioners until an inquiry into its operations is completed, following the dismissal of the city’s council and mayor — is refusing to say exactly which cameras will screen citizens because of “security reasons”.

    “Queensland sports fans and concert goers learnt this week via the media that they were being monitored with the technology at major stadiums.

    “As in Perth, signs at the stadiums told patrons they were being watched by CCTV but failed to mention this surveillance also included facial recognition technology which could be used by police.

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      OriginalSteve

      FYI – most ANPR ( Automatic Number Plate Recognition ) cameras can also do facial recognition. They also use the same for parking enforcement….and have them on plod cars….

      Often the ANPR and/or traffic cameras provide a feed back to a central computer for image processing.

      This also explains why state govts completely lose their rag when you have a number plate that’s dirty and hit you with huge $500+ fines…as they cant keep you “safe” if the plate is dirty…allegedly….doesn’t everyone want to be safe?

      “But think of the children…….”

      /Sarc

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    pat

    AUDIO: 12min29sec: 9 Jun: ABC Sunday Extra: Preparing for the worst
    Presenter: Hugh Riminton
    New York City based emergency management official Kelly McKinney has responded to disasters such as Hurricane Sandy and the Harlem Gas Explosion…
    Guest:
    Kelly McKinney, former Deputy Commissioner at the New York City Office of Emergency Management
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/sundayextra/7.30/11178732

    paraphrasing random bits:

    MCKINNEY: says he is a catastrophist, it’s in his DNA. grandmother was a catastrophist; father was a catastrophist. primary worry for him in NYC, IND, improvised nuclear device strike. with every ***tweet coming out of Washington DC, he’s more and more concerned.

    RIMINTON: CAGW – HUGE BUSHFIRES IN CALIF, HURRICANES WHACKING INTO NEW YORK, LONG WAY NORTH FOR A HURRICANE TRADITIONALLY; WE’VE HAD AN APPALLING LAST SUMMER HERE OF CYCLONES IN NORTH QUEENSLAND, ENORMOUS FLOOD EVENTS, PLUS BUSHFIRE EVENTS. HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK A WARMING CLIMATE IS INCREASING RISK?

    MCKINNEY: I’m not a scientist and I don’t have the big picture data, but anecdotally ETC…
    says he was with Riminton at EMPA (where Riminton also spoke), remembers Qld video, Premier (don’t know which one) was there; fire chief was there, all said the same thing, never seen anything like it, this is record-setting, this is unprecedented, and these are people have worked in the business for decades. they’ve never seen anything like it.

    RIMINTON: Hurricane Katrina. zombie apocalypse.
    MCKINNEY: you collapse into your lizard brain.

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      Graeme No.3

      pat:

      The answer? ABC is populated with lizard brains?

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        pat

        Graeme No.3 – lol.

        btw David Icke was recently refused a visa to enter Australia for saying something similar about lizards, wasn’t he?
        never mind he’d been here previously, without the world coming to an end.

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          Graeme No.3

          AH! But David coupled the species with the Royal Family and our P.M. wouldn’t want to upset them (before he’s had the royal treatment).

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          theRealUniverse

          David Icke believes that we are controlled by Saturn’s rings!!!

          OT Jupiter is very bright and close this month, great views through a telescope.

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      pat

      EMPA East Conference: Communicating and Engaging Communities in Emergencies
      Mon 3rd – Wed 5th June 2019
      Novotel Sydney Brighton Beach, NSW, Australia

      can’t paste the url, but you can find this program from the headline.

      EMPA 2019: Communicating and Engaging ith Communities in Emergencies
      Monday 3rd June, 2019 – half day Workshop
      ***Kids as risk communicators The power of school-community partnerships and child-led community education for disaster resilience and recovery
      Dr Briony Towers is a research fellow at RMIT University’s Centre for Risk and Community Safety and a Bushfire and Natural Hazards CRC project leader, working on climate change adaptation and child-centred disaster risk reduction.
      Jane Hayward is the Principal of Strathewen Primary School and Lisal O’Brien is a member of the Arthurs Creek & Strathewen Fire Brigade. Together they lead the award winning Strathewen-Arthurs Creek Bushfire Education Partnership…

      Tuesday 4th June, 2019
      Keynote: Moment of Truth – Communicating in the Parallel Universe
      ***Kelly McKinney, Author & Disaster Expert, NYC, USA Unlike our ordered and (sometimes) rational world, in the parallel universe that is the disaster, chaos and confusion reign. Crisis communications is about building a bridge to the people who matter most. We must battle the outrage to create a bond, built on credibility and trust.

      followed by:
      Navigating the blizzard: keeping news true and useful in the age of the digital snowstorm
      ***Hugh Riminton, National Affairs Editor, Network TEN (ALSO ABC)
      Before the media, there was simply the mob: all shouting at once, with little to distinguish the wacky from the wise. The digital age puts us back there. How do we handle it when lives are at stake when we get it wrong?

      followed by:
      Disasters everywhere! Managing demand during cascading weather events
      Chantelle Rule-Murphy & Hayley Gillespie, Queensland Fire & Emergency Services
      Welcome to Queensland – where there’s bushfires one day, cyclones and monsoonal floods the next. After a summer full of disasters that rolled from one into the next, we discuss the challenges of meeting public and agency demand.

      Sponsored by Australian Govt, Dept of Home Affairs, NSW Government, Justice, Office of Emergency Management etc..

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    pat

    some taxpayer-funding goes to this lot too!

    8 Jun: NPR: ‘We All Owe Al Gore An Apology’: More People See Climate Change In Record Flooding
    by Nathan Rott; Claire Heddles, Jennifer Ludden
    A string of natural disasters has hit the central U.S. in recent weeks…
    And while none of these events can be directly attributed to climate change, extreme rains are happening more frequently in many parts of the U.S. and that trend is expected to continue as the Earth continues to warm…

    “Somebody at my office told me, ‘We all owe Al Gore an apology,’” says Breigh Hardman, standing on a bridge over the Arkansas River in nearby Fort Smith…

    That aligns with recent polling by the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and George Mason University…
    It’s an imperfect science though…READ ON
    https://www.npr.org/2019/06/08/730456004/more-people-see-climate-change-in-record-floods-and-extreme-weather-will-that-me

    AUDIO: 4min23sec: 4 Jun: WRVO (NPR): The ‘Great Dying’ Nearly Erased Life On Earth. Scientists See Similarities To Today
    By Christopher Joyce
    Scientists are highlighting that similarity in a new exhibit at the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C…
    It’s explained in the exhibit’s section on the Great Dying…

    There have been other mass extinctions, like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs about 65 million years ago, but this one, at the end of the Permian Period, was mostly caused by too much carbon dioxide rising into the atmosphere. And the Smithsonian notes often in its exhibit that the current warming of the planet is déjà vu all over again.
    “We can learn from studying the past,” Wing says. “They’re also the processes that are being observed by Earth scientists today.”.

    One of them is Curtis Deutsch at the University of Washington, whose research helped inform the Smithsonian curators. “The very same things that caused the Great Dying are happening right now in our ocean today as a result of human activities,” he says, “not to the same degree, but in the same direction.”…

    So Deutsch thought, Why not re-create the hothouse of the Great Dying in a computer, a model that simulates the warming, and see how present-day species in the ocean would fare? He could crank up the carbon dioxide — that would in turn raise temperatures and lower oxygen in the oceans. Then he could watch as parts of the ocean started to become deadly.
    “The first thing that happens is that you start to see a local loss of species as they begin to move in response to the climate heating up,” he says…

    ***The Smithsonian exhibit makes explicit references to the threat from human-caused climate change; ***it also received funding from industrialist David Koch, who is known for supporting groups that contest the scientific consensus on climate change.

    Wing, the curator, says making the connection between the Great Dying and what’s happening now is a message that needs to be heard. “We have exceeded the frame of our own history,” he says of the human race. “Because we are so powerful, we are basically a geologic force now as well as a human force.”…
    A force that’s changing the conditions for life on the planet.
    TRANSCRIPT…READ ALL
    https://www.wrvo.org/post/great-dying-nearly-erased-life-earth-scientists-see-similarities-today

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    pat

    9 Jun: Reuters: Judge rules against FERC’s jurisdiction over PG&E power contract dispute
    A judge in San Francisco has ruled that the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission has no jurisdiction over a dispute involving PG&E Corp’s $42 billion worth of contracts with energy companies…
    Montali ruled that the FERC has no “concurrent jurisdiction” over determining whether Pacific Gas and Electric Company and PG&E Corporation can reject power contracts, and added that they did not need approval from the FERC to reject their purchase power contracts.
    NextEra Energy Inc, a party to eight power purchase agreements through subsidiaries, had argued the contracts are also subject to FERC’s jurisdiction…

    San Francisco-based PG&E sought Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in January in the face of liabilities it estimated at more than $30 billion in the aftermath of November’s Camp Fire, California’s deadliest and most destructive wildfire in modern times…READ ON
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pg-e-us-energy/judge-rules-against-fercs-jurisdiction-over-pge-power-contract-dispute-idUSKCN1T90O8

    ***Reuters doesn’t mention “renewable energy producers”, WSJ does:

    PG&E Wins Ruling Allowing It to Pull Out of Power Contracts By Peg Brickley
    Wall Street Journal – 14 hours ago
    Judge says bankruptcy protects the company’s moves regarding the deals
    Commission over who has the right to rule on whether it can rip up $42 billion in power-purchase agreements, risking California’s clean-energy mandate.
    Judge Dennis Montali issued a judgment that effectively bars the regulator from preventing the troubled Californian utility company from unwinding contracts that bind it to buy power from suppliers, ***including renewable energy producers…
    A judge of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in San Francisco, Mr. Montali is presiding over PG&E’s chapter 11 proceeding…

    8 Jun: KRON4: PG&E to shut off power to 26,900 customers in Sierra Foothills
    By Kayla Galloway
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA (KRON) — PG&E will be shutting off power for more than 26,000 customers in several Northern California counties Saturday night because of dry and windy weather conditions and high fire danger.
    Saturday night’s outage will impact customers in Butte, Yuba. Nevada, El Dorado and Placer counties.
    The outage will begin at 9 p.m. and last through noon on Sunday…ETC
    https://www.kron4.com/news/california/pg-e-to-shut-off-power-to-26-900-customers-in-sierra-foothills/2063166385

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    pat

    AUDIO: 8min17sec: 9 Jun: 2GB: George & Paul: People having to choose between power or food
    Major Paul Moulds – Salvation Army
    https://www.2gb.com/podcast/people-having-to-choose-between-power-or-food/

    Energy bills to rise for 4 million vulnerable households, warns watchdog
    UK Independent-7 Jun 2019

    Millions of vulnerable households face higher bills after delays to the smart meter rollout
    Daily Mail – 7 Jun 2019

    Smart meter delays could mean higher bills for millions
    Sky News UK – 7 Jun 2019
    Four million homes on prepay gas and electricity meters could see higher bills due to delays in the rollout of smart meters, says the competition watchdog…
    Those using prepayment meters, many of them due to poor credit history or debt, had been expecting to benefit from having smart meters.
    But the CMA said the smart meter rollout had “not progressed in line with the initial projections”…
    Offering prepay meters is more expensive for suppliers and experts have warned that homes with prepay meters could be the last to get smart meters…

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    pat

    8 Jun: BBC: ‘Digital twin’ tech to cut Stirling’s carbon emissions
    By Kenneth Macdonald, BBC Scotland Science Correspondent
    A Scottish company is using “digital twin” technology to build replicas of entire communities in cyberspace.
    They say their aim is to help people reduce their energy bills and cut carbon emissions on a huge scale.
    One plan nearing completion is a project that will create digital twins of 30 schools for Stirling Council.

    The digital twinning concept is already widespread. In effect, it is a perfect replica in cyberspace of something that exists in the real world.
    It could be a machine, an animal or a building.
    Or in one project already up and running, more than a hundred buildings.
    The Glasgow-based company Integrated Environmental Solutions (IES) has helped construct a 3D digital model of the first phase of the Trent Basin development in Nottingham (LINK)…

    The approach has been promoted by Project SCENe, which stands form Sustainable Community Energy Networks.
    Its partners include Nottingham University where Mark Gillott is professor of sustainable building design.
    “We have Europe’s largest community battery,” he tells the BBC’s Saturday Good Morning Scotland programme…

    Its founder and chief executive Don McLean says their techniques have already saved “30 power stations worth of energy”…READ ON
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-48556413

    7 Jun: TopGear: The Tesla Model 3 is the fastest charging car in the world
    Although with numerous caveats, naturally
    by Stephen Dobie
    A firmware update – rolling out this weekend – for European Model 3s with the Long Range battery option will allow them to charge at 200kW when hooked up to specific ‘ultrafast’ chargers.
    In balder terms, 200kW equates to 850 miles for each hour of charging. Given the Long Range version quotes at 329 miles on a full battery, that means a complete charge in just over 20 minutes. About the time it’ll take you to have a wee and order a chai latte at most service stations…

    It’s only the start of such convenience too, Tesla tells us. “When our own V3 Supercharger technology is introduced, these cars will be able to charge even faster at 250kW peak charge rates.”…
    COMMENTS
    https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/tesla-model-3-fastest-charging-car-world

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    Bill in Oz

    Off Topic : Since when did the UN have the capacity to demand being heard about building a dam in NSW to prevent flooding and guarrantee water to Sydney.
    Time to depart the UN.
    Time to tell it to go st*ff themselves.
    Morrison would do Australia huge favor if he gave the UN the complete flick.
    And banned any UN officials from coming here.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-09/warragamba-dam-proposal-un-concerns-world-heritage-site/11194166

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    Reed Coray

    It just dawned on me why the AGW community wants to include “human activity” in their climate models. By making human activity a part of their model, they can tweak the model in such a way that (a) human activities that in their minds are “good” will lead to heaven on earth, while (b) human activities that in their minds are “bad” will lead to He11. Not only that; but since the AGW community treats the outputs of their models as “experimental results,” they can claim that they have experimental verification of their predictions.

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    Russell

    Are these researchers really “feeding their models with trends in human behaviour” from the massive populations of India and China or just their tiny echo-chambers?
    Anyone who understands mathematics and big numbers will understand that planetry climate impact from “talking” about climate change in the West will be totally swamped by “not talking” about it in these huge countries. And I thought any modelling involved an undersatnding of maths.

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    richard

    Ho hum… what climate change-

    “Shipping losses declined by a record level of more than 50% year-on-year from 98 in 2017, driven by a significant fall in hotspots around the world and weather-related losses halving after a quieter year of hurricane and typhoon activity. The 2018 loss year is exceptional compared with the rolling 10-year loss average of 104 (down by 55%)”

    https://www.marinelink.com/news/shipping-losses-declines-466912

    and

    same old , same old bumper harvests

    Nigeria-” Farmers Eye Bumper Harvest in 2019 – THISDAYLIVE”

    Sri Lanka to get bumper rice harvest in Maha 2019 | Economynext A Bumper Summer Harvest – The Landing Search domain

    http://www.thelandingnz.com/2019/04/12/a-bumper-summer-harvest/https://www.thelandingnz.com/2019/04/12/a-bumper-summer-harvest/ Mar 20, 2019 · As bumper harvest nears, Argentina’s soy farmers stall deals waiting for trade war’s end …

    T Russia expects bumper wheat harvest – Xinhua | English.news.cn Bumper harvest for Central Australian date farm – FreshPlaza State set for bumper wheat harvest – The Tribune https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/state-set…bumper…harvest/745838.html

    China secures another year of bumper harvest – Chinadaily.com.cn global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201812/15/WS5c14c21da3107d4c3a00101e.html 15 Dec 2018 – May 30, 2019 … China secures another year of bumper harvest .

    Opinion | Bumper harvest amid global supply glut sees US grain … https://www.scmp.com › Business › Commodities Bumper harvest amid global supply glut sees US grain warehouses run out of space. … 12 May 2019

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    CO2isLife

    JoNova, the Teenage Super Sleuths have a bunch of new videos out about Global Warming. Please share them with your readers. It is important that we encourage the youth to understand the science behind climate change.

    The Teenage Super Sleuths have made some videos about your website.
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