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WakeUp to GetUp: Shorten will be beholden to “global network of radical left wing activists”

This election has been run on the lowest base primal tactics in Australian history. National policy has become a cult-like hate campaign. Which moderate centrist politician do we despise the most? The Alinsky-ite targeted smear campaign doesn’t attack a party, it isolates individuals, reducing voting to Good person: Bad person. The marked men and sole woman are those who question any part of the permitted agenda, especially on climate change. GetUp trashes their reputations with raining hate, manufactured scorn and lies that get cynically get “retracted” but never undone. GetUp also target the young and uninformed — using children as political activists. It only works because most of the Australian media repeats the toxic lines, and edits out the most informed views of half the electorate to be aired and debated. To be sure the ABC will seek out the odd conservative truckie or farmer (and the odder the better), but they won’t ask Australians with doctorates who disagree with their own political ideals.

Perversely if GetUp succeeds in outing the strongest skeptics from Parliament, they may become the core of a real centre-right force after the election, and freed from the Establishment grip, they may find their feet uncensored. But candidates are human. They need to hear from supporters. They need help.

Prime Skeptic Targets in the Liberal-National coalition: NSW, Tony Abbott, Craig Kelly. QLD – Keith Pitt, George Christian and Ken O’Dowd (all Nationals)  VICTORIA – Kevin Andrews.  WA – Andrew Hastie.

Gerard Benedet and Advance Australia are taking GetUp on.

I’m sharing in the spirit of filling the hole that the billion dollar national broadcaster won’t:



CULT LIKE METHODS AND CULTURE

GetUp recently released a “hit list” of 16 MPs they want out of Parliament at the coming federal election. These are MPs who support strong border protection laws, lower energy prices, and literacy testing for migrants. They are being targeted because GetUp don’t like their views.

GetUp claim to be independent but not a single Labor MP is on their hit list. Every one of them is a Coalition Member.

If GetUP hates an MP that’s a good reason to vote for them.

You can sign up to AdvanceAustralia if you haven’t already. Share info, help candidates. Get involved. If you feel disconsolate, unmotivated, cynical, that’s exactly what GetUp want.

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76 comments to WakeUp to GetUp: Shorten will be beholden to “global network of radical left wing activists”

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    theRealUniverse

    Getup, Orange shirts = Brown Shirts = bully boys(girls).
    Or are they a new ‘color revolution’?

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      Bill in Oz

      Time to get Shorten !
      He is ( again ) accused of rape
      While at a Young labor
      Weekend Conference
      In the 1980′s
      The accusation is being made
      By a woman named Kathy Sherriff
      Who was a 16 year old i
      In the Young Labor branch
      In Victoria in the 1980′s.

      She also made a statement
      Years ago to the Victorian police.
      But the Vic. police
      Who had a habit of
      Protecting ‘big names’
      Took no action
      Because she was the ‘only’ witness.

      Soooooo?

      What to do ?

      Simple :

      SHORTEN NUST STAND ASIDE
      FROM THE ALP LEADERSHIP POST
      UNTIL THIS CRIMINAL ACCUSATION IS SORTED.

      DO WE REALLY WANT TO Be
      EMBARRESSED AS A NATION
      AND HAVE AN ELECTED PRIME MINISTER
      FORCED FROM OFFICE
      TO STAND TRIAL FOR RAPE ?

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        Dennis

        Cardinal Pell was convicted last year on the evidence of a single eye witness who did not report the incident at the time a few decades ago, and who was found by the police who asked him to give evidence.

        Kathy did report the rape to police but they decided there was not enough evidence to charge the alleged rapist.

        According to a leading QC the Pell Case is a precedent that should enable Kathy to get the justice she deserves.

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        Bill in Oz

        Herald Sun newspaper report from 2014 about rape accusations:
        Woman who accuses Opposition Leader Bill Shorten of rape says police failed her.
        David Hurley, Herald Sun October 2, 2014 12:05am
        A WOMAN who claims she was raped by federal Labor leader Bill Shorten has accused Victoria Police of failing to investigate properly because of his position of power.
        Earlier this year, authorities decided not to press charges against Mr Shorten because prosecutors felt that “there was no reasonable prospect of conviction”.

        Interviewed by the Herald Sun in Queensland, she said the trauma of what she says happened to her had been exacerbated by what she sees as an inadequate police investigation.
        “I had three main witnesses … I gave them the phone number of one, her maiden and married names, told them she lived in Melbourne.
        “The police told me they couldn’t find her,” Kathy said.
        “But they went to all of Bill’s friends,’’ she said…….

        Kathy told the Herald Sun she felt let down and devastated by how police had handled the matter
        “With another witness, the police tried to say she was influenced by the media, which doesn’t make any sense. Earlier this year, authorities decided not to press charges against Mr Shorten because prosecutors felt that “there was no reasonable prospect of conviction”…….

        Interviewed by the Herald Sun in Queensland, she said the trauma of what she says happened to her had been exacerbated.
        “I don’t think I had a hope in hell with the police because of who he is,” Kathy said.
        “If Bill was just a regular guy I think it would have been different. The police would have had a load of evidence to do something.
        “I left it in the hands of the police, and they did nothing.”

        Kathy, now 44, alleges Mr Shorten raped her at a Labor youth conference in Portarlington in the winter of 1986, when she was just 16.
        The community nurse completed a 19-page police statement with detectives from Victoria Police’s sexual offences squad last October 23.
        “The police rang me up in April and told me they had called Bill in for questioning.
        “They then said the case was closed and that they weren’t going to reopen it,” Kathy said.
        “They said I would not be able to get access to any of the evidence. They said I could apply through Freedom of Information but I wouldn’t get it.

        “I never really had a leg to stand on. They have tried to bully me,” she said.
        “ I have got rights, and they are trying to take away my rights. People are treating me like a nutcase.”
        “It doesn’t mean I’m stupid or I’m fabricating things.”

        Kathy had a rapid rise in Young Labor when elected to the rural policy committee. She became a delegate for party state and national conferences in 1986. Soon after joining Labor she says she came to know Mr Shorten — himself a rising star in the party. After he travelled to Wodonga to meet local members, Kathy says she began speaking to him on the phone regularly about party and policy issues.

        Kathy says she and her sister went to Portarlington for the youth Labor conference during the winter of 1986. Kathy says she was raped by Mr Shorten after being pushed into a bathroom in the early hours of the morning.
        She says no one else was present. A number of Young Labor members had spent the evening drinking and smoking marijuana, she says.

        In her police statement, Kathy outlined how she came to know
        Mr Shorten and what she said happened on the night in question.
        Kathy says she was raped after a group had arrived back from going for a drive.
        “There was a knock at the door,” Kathy says. “I thought it was my sister. I opened the door and it was Bill.”
        Kathy says she and her sister left the camp the next day.
        The Herald Sun has seen a police statement by Kathy’s sister, completed on October 23 last year, in which she confirms details about the location of the Labor youth camp and the people who were present.

        https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/woman-who-accuses-opposition-leader-bill-shorten-of-rape-says-police-failed-her/news-story/a92bad447392ff36830daa5ef2f8971e

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        Bill in Oz

        And in case anyone missed it, here is the Sydney Morning Herald from 2014 on this accusation against Bill Shorten.

        It includes an interview with him as well :
        Thanks Fitz for the link !
        https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bill-shorten-opens-up-about-rape-allegations-20140821-106r7h.html

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      theRealUniverse

      Recheck the videos, refers to socialism. This outfit is NATIONAL SOCIALISM, not actual peoples socialism in some form. These organizations, indoctrinating children especially adolescents are akin to HITLER YOUTH! So obvious. This was rampant in Hitler’s Germany in the 1930s! Take note.

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        Yonniestone

        We’ve come across these grubs a few times at patriot rallies in Melbourne, they’re pretty vocal and brave in a group behind police lines, outside of that…Meh.

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    Ross

    The interesting irony is that the Unions helped financially to get them off the ground and now GetUp are helping stop job creating opportunities to develop in Australia.

    Is the umbrella group OPEN one of George Soros’s funded groups ?

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      Dennis

      The Australian Workers Union welcomed the activist organisation to Australia where it was named GetUp. AWU membership funds were donated to this foreign body and Bill Shorten of the AWU joined the GetUp Board of Directors. Other unions donate including one of the largest single donations of $1.2 million from the CFMEU.

      Very clearly the GetUp candidates masquerading as Independent, and now blatantly claiming to be an Independent Party, give hints that they are “sensible right” and other suggestions that they are true Liberals. But they are from the left, clearly, supported by Labor Greens and their workers have been pictured handing out how to vote cards for the independents at early voting booths.

      The attack on democracy is blatant, the left determined to form government and rid themselves of those real Liberal MPs who stand in their way, and who are not taken in by socialism and globalism. Like Abbott MP who as PM said he would not stand for socialism masquerading as environmentalism.

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        Dennis

        It should also be noted that behind the GetUp candidates are self interested merchant bankers and other investors in renewable energy ventures, and business owners who are in that field, solar systems for example.

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      theRealUniverse

      Also, any possible connection to the sinister group Common Purpose?

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        Dennis

        I understand they are both part of a global network of organisations behind which can be found people such as George Soros, the foot soldiers of globalism.

        https://www.cpexposed.com/about-common-purpose

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          Dennis

          I have also noticed that many Rhodes Scholars (certainly not all of them) and graduates of the London School of Economics are involved in the new world order politics.

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            Dennis

            And once again linked to The Fabian Society of socialists …

            The London School of Economics (officially The London School of Economics and Political Science, often referred to as LSE) is a public research university located in London, England, and a constituent college of the federal University of London. Founded in 1895 by Fabian Society members Sidney Webb, Beatrice Webb, Graham Wallas, and George Bernard Shaw for the betterment of society, LSE joined the University of London in 1900 and established its first degree courses under the auspices of the University in 1901. The LSE started awarding its own degrees in 2008, prior to which it awarded degrees of the University of London.

            Wikipedia

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            OriginalSteve

            Tony Abbott is a Rhodes scholar.

            As is Bob Hawke, Kim Beasley….

            Rhodes himself was interested in global govt.

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    Roy Hogue

    Those who govern us now do and say things we thought not possible to find in our halls of government only a few year ago. If you’re anything like me, you feel overwhelmed by it. How did things sink so low so fast?

    And I have no answer except to believe it’s been there a long time just keeping it’s mouth shut until the right moment when it can pop up and bite us.

    How could so many, both there and here have been so blind for so long?

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      Lionell Griffith

      I suggest it was due to the typical belief that philosophy, the art and science of clear thinking, is for useless dandies, fops, and empty academics. Everyone was simply pragmatic in that they went with whatever works.

      Unfortunately, there was no focus nor specification of “whatever works”. People seemed to “just know”. There was also a general belief that you can’t know what works until you try it. Even if it works the first time, you can’t know that it will again. This is why, in spite of a 100% failure rate, many clamor for the building of a Socialist Society – one more time.

      This “just know” attitude dissolves clear thinking and leads to the belief that a thing can randomly change into what it isn’t. Because of that, they believe reality isn’t knowable. After which, everything is setup for a rapid collapse into chaos.

      All of this in spite of all of the human invented and built artifacts that make up the content of our current technological civilization. For far too many people, it all happened by magic, wish, fantasy, and government dictate.

      Truth is a social construct. Therefor Truth is created by agreement and destroyed by disagreement. Hence, we must destroy the deniers!

      Change the name of a thing, you change the thing.

      If you don’t think about it or talk about it, it won’t happen. If it does happen, blame it on the deniers who said it would happen. Then destroy the deniers?

      This is all a broken recording that has been repeatedly played since the first humanoid trod the earth and asked why.

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      They’ll say anything. The other day I caught Plibs on TV accusing the LNP of the worst lying she’d ever seen in politics. How quickly she forgot the Labor lies of Mediscare etc that Labor conducted at the last election.

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    Serp

    I’ve no idea how effective this campaign will prove to have been. I’d expect Australians to give it short shrift; we’ll know in a week.

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    Annie

    While doing my ‘homework’ on what the various parties stand for, I found that certain parties are next to invisible on google or are described as ‘far right’; ie, right of left of centre. Certain parties on my list, transcribed from the AEC list for our electorate (Indi), I noted as ‘google no-like’. Others, once I found a homepage, were quickly checked for energy policy or whether rabbiting on about AGW/CC/Whatever…a quick way to discard such from my list of possibles in the more minor parties!
    I certainly don’t trust ‘independants’ now. The competition here for bottom place in the HOR list of candidates is between Greens, Labor and Independant. I can’t discover what preferences will be given by the Derryn Hinch candidate.

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      Annie

      We have a truly ridiculous list of candidates for the Senate, 82 iirc.

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        Annie

        I dislike this preference stuff immensely; when it can lead to such as Jacquie Lambie becoming a senator after having a very small primary vote, then it isn’t truly reflecting the voters’ wishes IMO.

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          Dennis

          As I recall Annie she received 3 per cent primary vote in Tasmania.

          A candidate in Victoria for a motorists party or similar gained a Senate seat with less than 2 per cent primary vote.

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            Graeme No.3

            And he actually turned out to be a better choice than a lot of the Party hacks.

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            Graeme No.3

            And he actually turned out to be a better choice and more respected by the media on-lookers than a lot of the Party hacks.

            Anyway he got 0.5% of the primary vote. How much do you think the No.4 on the big parties list gets?

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          Salome

          Annie–preferential voting is a way of voting for a minor party but still having your vote count. Optional preferential voting makes it a lot easier. You only have to number 12 candidates on the Senate list (gives you a smaller field than numbering 6 party groups above the line so you get to vote for fewer loony parties). Don’t follow anyone’s card–cards have been put together by ‘deals’ and it’s ‘deals’ that get the Lambies into the Senate, not preferential voting. Do what you’ve been doing–a little homework. Make a list of the parties and candidates you could possibly bring yourself to vote for and as long as you vote for the minimum number on the Senate ticket (and, sadly, all on the reps ticket) number them in the order you want.

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            Destroyer D69

            And also please read Sec 268[A] and 269 of the Electoral act to see what is actually in law is a formal vote. It is YOUR vote and you are entitled to cast it as TOU see fit.

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          Peter C

          I dislike this preference stuff immensely;

          Understandable. Unfortunately it takes some effort. And I think a lot of people do not understand it very well.

          Kevin Bailey (Australian Conservatives-Vic) might have got a big boost if the Libs had given him [2]. They did not do that! They have directed that their supporters should give preferences to Clive Palmer’s UAP, The Libs are doing everything they can to alienate their conservative supporter base. The only reason I can think of is that they have become a left wing party themselves.

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            Annie

            So, if one numbers 1 to 12, putting Kevin Bailey at 1, can one ignore the lib/nat/lab/greens/uap/animalrights mob entirely and be sure that KB gets the benefit? I’m more confused than ever, despite trying to do my homework. The more I look into it, the more it becomes as clear as mud!
            At present, I am utterly sick of the whole shemozzle. I do not want my votes to go to the wrong people…ie, anyone leftie, marxist, greenist, agw-ist, renewableist or too keen to squander the hard-earned money of decent people.

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              David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

              G’day Annie,
              I shared your problem, but found a way which worked for me in the senate ballot. First I went to the electoral commission site and followed it to the list of candidates, which is grouped there as it is on the ballot paper. That includes a group identifier A-Z and beyond if necessary, and the name of the party.
              I did a quick scan of each column and decided if that group was one I could include in my “maybe vote for some of these” list. If yes I wrote down the group identifier and the number of candidates in the group. And so on for all groups.
              Then a decision – did I have at least 12 candidates I could vote for? If not, go find another group of the “least damage” sort. If yes, write down the names under the group heading and allocate your preferences beside each candidate.
              Iterate as necessary.
              Take the paper with you when you vote, find the group identifier at the top of the column and copy your numbers on to the ballot paper.
              Hope this helps.
              Cheers
              Dave B

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          MudCrab

          There is ‘Preference Voting’ and there is ‘Senate Voting’.

          Preference Voting or 2PP works on the concept that the winner must have 50% plus one vote and also ‘if you can’t have ‘Person’ who is your next choice’. It is intended to compress multiple rounds of voting where the lowest polling person is removed each round into a single moment in time. It is… a system and within the rules of the system largely works.

          The other option is the ‘First Past the Post’ type where the person with the most votes wins and none of this 50% plus one stuff. The down side to this is that if several minors divide a voting block then a minority may win.

          Example – Five people want to go to lunch. What do they want? One wants Ham and Pineapple Pizza, One wants BBQ Chicken Pizza, One wants Spicy Pizza, Two want rotting fish heads. What do they go and eat? Fish heads, because they got the most votes despite the fact that 3 our of 5 people were hoping for some sort of pizza.

          So, that is Green form voting. Now to the bucket of fun that is Senate voting.

          (disclaimer – I have not fully looked into the new rules, and are working on the concepts from the last election)

          Senate works on getting a Quota of the votes. A Quota is 1/(number of seats being contested +1). So for a normal election there are six seats so a quota is 1/(6+1) = 1/7 = 14.2% of the vote.

          So what happens? Well they add up all the total first preference votes and end up with stuff like Liberal 30%, Labor 25%, Greens 6%, Etc 2% et 1% al 1% all the way down to the bottom. Then they take the top group (Liberal here), give them a seat and remove 14.2% of their votes as ‘used’. Then they reorder

          Labor 25%, Liberal 15.8%, Greens 6%….

          Who is now first? Labor! Give them a senate seat and remove 14.2% of their votes.

          Now Liberal 15.8, Labor 10.8…. Here Liberals still have more than 14.25 so get another senate seat and now have 1.6%

          Now no one has 14.2% and they start removing people from the bottom.

          So Zac from the Zebra Party with 5 total votes is the lowest and gets cut. They check preferences and give those votes to who ever. If this adjustment doesn’t push someone over 14.2% they cut the new lowest, who might be Yonnie the young with 10 total votes.

          Now the important thing to remember here is that quota is 1/(n+1) but only n seats are up for grabs. Does this mean that 1/7th of the total vote doesn’t get counted? YUP

          The other thing to remember is that people are being culled from the bottom and their votes given to someone else. Now the exploit is to ensure you always remain off the bottom. So the trick (the system has been changed somewhat to try and close this exploit) was to speak to Yonnie and Zac and Xeno and Wobbet and all the other little people and make sure that you all agree to preference each other BEFORE any of the major parties. Remember as long as you can stay off the bottom each round you do not get cut.

          So if you stay off the bottom long enough you can get into a position where you have, purely from other people’s preferences, 14.2% of the vote and a senate spot. Sure a lot of luck is involved but if you think about it the odds are better than winning the lottery and if you win you get to farce around in Canberra for 6 years getting paid very good money thank you very much.

          So why is this system bad? Remember that 1/7th of the votes are lost. So let us assume a major party gets (ummm… faking the maths) 2.8 total quotas in first pref votes. (43% or something?) They get the first 2 spots but then they sit there with 0.8 of a quota (10% or something of the total vote) and then, because preferences are taken from the bottom, get totally ignored by the process. Your votes are not even preferenced to anyone because again, they come from the bottom. So if you were Judian People’s Front and really wanted to preference the People’s Front of Judia then tough luck. Your preferences are not given out until you are eliminated and despite the fact you have a spare 10% of the vote sitting around, the last senate seat goes to some bugger who got 0.1%

          Senate voting. ya!

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            MudCrab

            Also, to recap, this is largely based on the way the system USED to be.

            Our elected betters have been trying to modify this to make it ‘fairer’ (whatever fairer is) but not completely up to speed on what these changes are, but as you should be able to see, the old system had its quirks.

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            Destroyer D69

            After reading the electoral act section on the Scrutiny I find multiple instructions to the scrutineers to specifically count the first preference votes ABOVE the line in the Senate ballot , but cannot find any direct instructions as to the counting of votes below the line./\??????

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      Bill in Oz

      Annie,
      The Derryn Hinch Party is giving it’s preferences to Labor
      In exchange for Labor preferencing him in the senate .

      AVOID !

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      OriginalSteve

      Yup…interesting though…while Christianity is being run out of town as its “old fashioned” and “antiquated” and “bigotted”, this stuff will take its place.

      Politics is not a moral platform.

      We will see the rise of the Green Reich…..

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    Ross

    I watched Alan Jones and Peta Credlin on Sky News last night. They had a University Prof on explaining Labour’s Policy on this issue of gender identification and changing gender etc. What they proposing is horrifying –that policy alone should be enough for you to vote for any other party.

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      Serp

      SOGI, it’s an essential part of Labor’s current philosophy, and yeah, it beggars belief that there are people who believe it and go to the trouble of formulating societal rules based on it.

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    PeterS

    Not long to wait to see if Australians decide if they can’t wait to commit social and economic suicide. It won’t matter in the long run but if the ALP+Greens take control the decline will speed up significantly, in which case all one can say is fasten your seat belts assuming one has them, and most don’t.

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    george1st:)

    Agree with the problem we face and the world as well with UN,EU and middle east . We cannot blame the cultists , children , crazies for what they do . They have have been indoctrinated . Western govt’s have looked sideways not wanting to confront any noncomformity for fear of losing votes . Getup and especially ABC should have made more equitable a long time ago .

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    Bobl

    The only hope I have is that they face a conservative cross bench in the Senate. In that hope I got behind Malcolm Roberts. Also Sceptic Ian MacDonald (LNP) deserves number 2 spot because he is down the LNP ticket and needs lots of primary votes to get up. ACP Candidates round it out to 5.

    You can partly line ONP and trust that Steve Dickson will be appropriately replaced. Al Jazeera (Qatar government) did a wonderful hatchet job on Steve (however his choices weren’t Sterling so he is best not in the parliament…. to what end is Qatar working I wonder?

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    robert rosicka

    The ABC are almost as bad as getup imo , take a look at this latest bunch of codswallop .

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-15/jane-goodall-calls-for-more-action-on-climate-change/11116766

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    pat

    behind paywall:

    14 May: Jeremy Corbyn draws up plans to seize control of UK’s energy with sweeping nationalisation of networks
    by Jillian Ambrose
    A leaked Labour party document has revealed plans for a swift and sweeping renationalisation of the country’s £62bn energy networks at a price decided by Parliament.
    The blueprint, seen by the Telegraph, lays bare for the first time Mr Corbyn’s plan to bring all energy network companies under public ownership “immediately” following a Labour election win.
    The party is planning to employ the same legislative tools used to nationalise Northern Rock in order to justify naming its own price for the companies…

    15 May: UK Times: Emily Gosden: Labour leak reveals plan to nationalise energy network
    Streets, villages and housing estates could be handed responsibility for operating and maintaining the electricity cables and meters that supply their homes, a leaked document showed.
    The plans, expected to be announced within days, suggest that shareholders in companies that own the networks would be unlikely to be paid the market value for their assets, estimated to be worth £64 billion. The document says that the compensation would be decided by parliament, which could make deductions for factors such as “the state of repair of assets and state subsidies given to the energy companies”…

    15 May: Bloomberg: Utilities Drop in U.K. on Labour Nationalization Report
    By Jeremy Hodges
    National Grid says opposition’s plan would delay green funding
    SSE Plc to National Grid Plc led the decliners in London trading, and EON SE, a German utility with a presence in the U.K. also fell. The report in the Daily Telegraph said Labour would pay pension funds in government bonds to take into public ownership the power transmission arms of SSE, National Grid and Scottish Power, a unit of Iberdrola SA…

    While the next election isn’t scheduled until 2022, Prime Minister Theresa May’s grip of Parliament is fragile enough that lawmakers may opt to call a vote before then. Industry analysts think it’s unlikely Corbyn could achieve his ambitions even if he takes office…
    “What is new is how the Labour Party could look to justify a lower value and the inclusion of interconnectors to the nationalization ‘wish list’, should they come into power,” Jenny Peng, an analyst at Citigroup Inc., said in a note…READ ALL
    Bloomberg Intelligence estimates the cost to be 135 billion pounds for buying the energy grids and water industry…
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-15/utilities-drop-in-u-k-on-report-labour-prepares-nationalization

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    pat

    behind paywall:

    15 May: UK Times: Climate plan will turn Ireland on its head, warns top civil servant
    by Catherine Sanz
    Mark Griffin, secretary-general of the Department of Communications, Climate Action and the Environment, said the plan, expected later this month, would outline the changes needed and economic opportunities of moving to a low-carbon economy. While it would build on many measures announced under previous schemes, it would set challenging goals.
    “The reality is that as a country we will have to change how we work, how we travel, how we socialise, how we heat our homes, and how we carry our economic activity,” he said. “So, in other words, turn the country entirely on its head over ten years. It has to be done.”…

    14 May: Irish Times: Ireland needs to be turned ‘entirely on its head’ to tackle climate change
    Department chief says ‘level of ambition’ on fighting global warming needs to ramp up
    by Sarah Burns
    “Of course as well as being a challenge there are huge economic opportunities for the State if we do this.”…
    Mr Griffin also said the electricity sector in Ireland is undergoing “unprecedented change” and that the climate action plan provides for a “very substantial ramp-up of activity and innovation and change” in the sector.

    “We’ve already stated publicly that we would achieve 70 per cent renewable activity on the grid by 2030. This is a major policy, regulatory and technical undertaking and will involve major development of offshore renewable energy, mainly offshore wind, the development of grid scale, solar energy and an increase in onshore wind capacity,” he added.
    “The knock-on consequences of that is that we need to have increased levels of storage and interconnection on our system, we need to develop the offshore grid and we need a new planning and consenting regime and grid connection framework.”…READ ON
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/ireland-needs-to-be-turned-entirely-on-its-head-to-tackle-climate-change-1.3892478

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    pat

    14 May: ClimateChangeNews: Brazil cancels Latin American climate summit
    After backing out of hosting the 2019 UN climate summit, the Bolsonaro administration has changed its plan to hold a week-long event in Salvador
    By Natalie Sauer in London and Fabiano Maisonnave in Lima
    Brazil has withdrawn its offer to host Latin America and Caribbean climate week, a key milestone leading up to the annual UN negotiations.
    Initially set to take place from 19 to 23 August in Salvador, the event is part of a series of regional summits to encourage dialogue between governments and civil society, in support of national climate pledges…

    André Fraga, the official charged with UN liaison, was informed of the cancellation on Friday night, in a phone call from the federal environment ministry.
    “I have been informed that Minister Ricardo Salles was not comfortable with holding the event in Brazil,” Fraga told O Globo. “He claimed what all of this government claim: that the event only serves as a platform for ***NGOs, that it is useless and that the environment ministry’s focus is the urban agenda, which has nothing to do with climate change.”
    The environment minister denied having a problem with campaign groups…READ ON
    https://www.climatechangenews.com/2019/05/14/brazil-cancels-latin-america-climate-week-national-media/

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    14 May: UK Telegraph: More than two million smart meters in the UK do not work, research suggests
    By Telegraph Reporters
    More than two million smart meters in the UK are not working, new research suggests, as energy customers continue to feel pressured into having them installed.
    Of the nearly 15 million of the devices which were installed by the end of 2018, only 12.5 million were operational, government figures show. This means 2.3 million have been set up for customers but are not working, the BBC reports…
    It is claimed smart meters are an important step to tackling climate change, but the technology has been plagued with technical glitches…
    Energy giant SSE announced this month that it will be cutting more than 400 jobs in its retail business covering smart meter installation because of a lack of take-up for the devices from consumers…READ ON
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/14/two-million-smart-meters-not-working-research-suggests/

    14 May: BBC: Smart meters: Why they are driving some people mad
    By Colletta Smith
    Things haven’t worked out well. Bryde Town: “My smart meter loses connection, the weather seems to affect it, and it beeps all the time and the only way to stop it is to remove the batteries.”…

    Customers have been reporting issues with both the smart box, which normally sits with your fuse box, and the In Home Display which is the visible unit for your house.
    Government figures show that until the end of 2018, nearly 15 million smart meters had been installed. But those same figures also show that only 12.5 million were operational.
    That leaves 2.3 million smart meters that have been installed but are not functioning.

    DCC is the company tasked with the job of making those devices smart again, but they’ve not implemented the technology to make that possible yet… READ ON
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48266605

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    14 May: PressOfAtlanticCity: South Jersey sets cold temperature record on Monday
    JOE MARTUCCI Press Meteorologist
    In a day that felt more like two months from Memorial Day, rather than two weeks, South Jersey set a temperature for the record books Monday.
    Atlantic City International Airport’s high temperature of 54 degrees tied the record for the coldest high temperature. Data goes back to 1943…
    Millville Executive Airport and Cape May also set cold high temperature records. Millville only climbed to 54 degrees as well, breaking the old record of 56. Cape May reached 55 degrees, breaking the old record of 56 in 1907.

    14 May: SacramentoBee: More like winter’: Updated forecasts call for up to 10 inches of Sierra snow in May
    By Michael McGough
    ‘More like winter’ in Sierra
    Mountain snow is expected to begin late Wednesday through Thursday night across the Sierra.
    Most of the northern and central Sierra will see between 5 to 10 inches of snow fall by Friday morning, with as much as 20 inches possible locally at higher elevations…
    In a tweet Tuesday morning, NWS Sacramento advised: “It is going to feel more like winter by the middle to end of the week.”…
    It’s gonna be how cold????
    The cold storm track coming in from Alaska is knocking temperatures across Northern California anywhere from 10 to 20 degrees below average for this time of year…
    Sacramento is expected to reach a high of just 64 degrees on a wet Thursday. The all-time, daily record for coldest max temperature on May 16 is 63…

    14 May: DetroitFreePress: Michigan hasn’t waited this long for 80-degree temperatures in 20 years
    by DeJanay Booth
    Summer-like, 80-degree weather typically arrives at the beginning of May.
    But this year, it has decided to make a late grand entrance, potentially for the first time in 20 years…
    Meteorologist Alex Manion said that on Friday, the temperature is expected to be in the mid-60s…

    14 May: TheSuburban: Unsettled weather to continue in Montreal through May
    by Stephen Balena
    The forecast high on Tuesday in Montreal was expected to be just shy of 10C (50F), this is well below the normal of 19C (66F) for the date. Several locations in northern New England, New Brunswick and southeastern Quebec even had measurable snow overnight. Killington, Vermont reported 15 to 20cm of new snow on the summit. The cold weather is even impacting the northeastern US, New York’s Central Park recorded its coldest May 13 ever on Monday, with a high of only 48F. The previous record was 49F set in 1914…
    Unfortunately the unsettled weather is expected to continue well into next week, with perhaps a decent day or two somewhere in between…

    9 May: FreshPlaza: Cold weather causes uncommon scenes in Italy and Poland
    NFO reports that last weekend nights were uncommonly cold. Temperatures remained just above freezing in most places in the Netherlands, although some places also saw a little frost. Some irrigation occurred, but most growers didn’t have to get out of bed. The cold weather caused quite a few more worries for fruit growers in Italy and Poland.

    In Poland, temperatures as low as -3 ºC were measured in the night of Saturday 4 to Sunday 5 May. In April, the Polish growers were also faced with severe night frosts of -7 ºC locally. TVN Meteo had forecast temperatures as low as -5 ºC for this week as well. The low temperatures cause the growers to be quite worried. The night frost is expected to have consequences for the coming harvest.
    Snow fell in Italy on Sunday. In the Trentino region in South Tyrol, snow even fell in the lower regions at just 500 metres. That’s quite exceptional for the time of year. However, it appears as if the snowfall hasn’t caused a lot of damages to the trees. italiafruit.net reported that ‘despite the uncommon nature of the snowfall, no crop damages occurred for the apple trees still in bloom.’ Growers had to open up their hail nets to prevent damages.
    https://www.freshplaza.com/article/9101984/cold-weather-causes-uncommon-scenes-in-italy-and-poland/

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      14 May: FreshPlaza: Berry sites in Poland damaged by frosts
      Polish farmers suffered serious losses from late frosts. Vadim Dudka, a scientist, agronomist, creator and general director of the network of consulting companies “AgroAnaliz”: “On May 6, the temperature on the berry plantations dropped to -6C (in some places to -8C). And those who did not take measures to protect against frost lost at least the harvest of the current year.”
      “Strawberries were hardest hit (spring frosts are always the hardest on the ground). These are not the first frosts in Poland this season. In April, 8C frosts severely damaged blueberry plantations,” the expert stated.

      The frosts observed at night in early May, could damage the apricots and cherries in Ukraine, which is why we can expect a smaller harvest this year. This opinion was expressed recently by the head of the department of agrometeorology of the Ukrainian Hydrometeorological Center Tatyana Adamenko.
      “There were frosts throughout the country. In the air, frosts were observed at our coldest station Belovodsk in the Luhansk region. The rest of the territory was mostly frozen on the ground at a height of 2 cm,” says Adamenko…
      https://www.freshplaza.com/article/9103905/berry-sites-in-poland-damaged-by-frosts/

      10 May: FreshPlaza: More frost in various Polish regions
      Although the temperature varies per orchard, some have measured a temperature of -6 degrees Celsius. The frost has taken its toll on the fruits, leaving some apples and pears all black. The total damages have yet to be determined…
      For Polish apple exporting company Fruit-Group the past few days have been a possible nightmare. Only a few weeks ago there was heavy frost across multiple regions in Poland…
      There was a frost alert for most of Poland, with the exception of the Northern regions, which are close to the sea. During the frost Lewandowska’s father, the CEO of Fruit-Group, decided to make use of a heating machine: “We use a machine that warms up the soil and trees surrounding it during frost. This will hopefully help the flowers avoid any more frost damages. However there will for sure be various amounts of damages to pears, apples, sweet cherries and plums. To what extend is hard to say, we will simply have to wait and see.” Lewandowska concludes.
      https://www.freshplaza.com/article/9102934/more-frost-in-various-polish-regions/

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    14 May: NBC Boston: Northerly Breeze Makes for Winter-Like Weather in New England
    By Matt Noyes
    It’s an absolutely disgusting spring day by most standards and it’s challenging records for coldest high temperature for the date.
    Highs are struggling out of the middle and upper 40s and the combination of occasional drizzle, no sun and a northerly breeze making for “feels like” temperatures only in the upper 30s to near 40 degrees. In other words, it might as well be a winter day!

    15 May: WeatherWatchNZ: Stormy weather to surge past NZ bringing gales and a wintry temperature drop (+4 Maps)
    Posted by WW Forecast Team
    This southerly change will hack back temperatures with daytime highs in the single digits forecast on Sunday across a large portion of Southland and Otago at the warmest point of the day. In fact highs of just 7 to 9 degrees are currently forecast, including in Dunedin, Invercargill, Queenstown and Alexandra. Add on top of that strong to gale force winds for some areas – sustained at over gale force in some coastal areas in particular – with gusts over 100km/h it will feel wintry…

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    philthegeek

    Its pretty obvious that the worry of the right wing of politics is that GetUp is a group that can get actual volunteer boots on the ground. Genuine grassroots and not a confected astro-turf mob. That’s how democracy works people. Actual people get together to achieve outcomes. :)

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      Actual losers get together to bolster their brain dead beliefs..

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      nightspore

      Democracies can be overthrown by people clever enough and determined enough (and with enough fellow-travellers geekish and otherwise). It’s been done before. Read up on Louis Napolean and Adolph H.

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      AndyG55

      A load of GULLIBLE drones, seeking some purpose to their miserable lives, by following orders from above.

      I know a couple of them, and without GetUp, they are just amorphous, purposeless non-thinking blobs.

      Its a form of Herd Instinct

      It becomes a sort of “religion” to them, it makes them happy…

      … which is really very sad.

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      AndyG55

      Conservatives generally don’t have time on their hands to waste on such religious groups as “GetUp!”

      They are busy working, making the world go around.

      You know, actually CONTRIBUTING !

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      Grim that an authoritarian hive controlled by foreign and domestic plutocrats is what passes for grass-roots and democracy with the Green Left. Add to that the social climbers and snobs who constitute the Labor leadership and you really have to wonder. The GeeUppers have even been persuaded to give war a very big chance.

      Suppose I’ll vote for the Nats in the reps and find some party with “conservative” in its name for the senate in the hope that a bloc in the upper house might be able to hold back the worst of the green waste.

      If we were like GeeUp we’d have found ways to concert our upper house votes. But then we‘d be an authoritarian hive.

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    In other news.. a level headed look consequences of policy options, with no opinion on the pointlessness of the whole AGW hoax.

    https://johnanderson.net.au/labors-climate-of-catastrophe/?fbclid=IwAR2KJyMQWzhiI-iidKxs0XMl-Jq_RCx00K9kU9EnHkfxNRrk9QfiuIU7Q-Y

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      theRealUniverse

      Trouble that guy is just rubbishing the policy as such, but still believes that CO2 causes warming.
      Why dont these other journos DO THEIR HOMEWORK and realise the CAGW is just a scam based on fake science!

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    GD

    Wonderful videos, but who is going to see them?

    A little, too late?

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    MudCrab

    If you were pure outside with no context and only had the screen captures shown above to go by, what could you determine about GetUp!?

    Well… they are clearly not hitting their diversity targets. In fact maybe they could be some sort of White Supremacy group!

    For an organisation that claims it speaks for minority groups it sure seems to be filled with a lot of middle aged white people. Without sarcasm I used to get more ethnic diversity at a Liberal Party branch meeting and we used to have some of them around a dining room table. Curse those racist Right Wing parties!!!

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    PeterFitzroy

    Advance Australia’s funding, would suggest that it is got the support of some very rich people, which is the opposite of the funding for Getup. The other point is that the IPA and AA are now fighting for the same funds.

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    PeterFitzroy

    Te best thing about being on permanent double secret moderation, is that I only have to check this blog twice a day

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    WXcycles

    Eric over at WUWT made a good pitch today, pointing out One Nation are the least worst option. He’s right, but I’ve not voted for any politician for over a decade – same result – damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I prefer to be damned if I don’t.

    But given the poisonous lies Get-Up, Greens, Labor and the assorted fake-Liberals are pouring into Australian politics, and main-lining into school-children, I just might vote against them but certainly not for Lib-Nats who are nothing more than as Eric points out, a choice of Al-Gore, or else Al-Gore-Lite.

    I’ve never been more ashamed of what Australia’s political domain and society has degenerated into, sewage is more palatable, though One Nation is at least against Al-Gore and the ‘mini-me’ Al-Gore, so maybe I’ll hold my nose and vote Pauline and a bag of licorice-all-sorts, Saturday.

    Sprawl II – by Arcade Fire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNyZKBXHcUs

    Sprawl II

    You heard me singing and you told me to stop
    Quit these pretentious things and just punch the clock
    These days my life I feel it has no purpose
    When late at night the feelings swim to the surface
    ‘Cause on the surface the city lights shine
    They’re calling at me, come and find your kind

    Sometimes I wonder if the world’s so small
    That we can never get away from the sprawl
    Living in the sprawl
    Dead shopping malls rise
    Like mountains beyond mountains
    And there’s no end in sight
    I need the darkness, someone please cut the lights

    We ride our bikes to the nearest park
    Sat under the swings and kissed in the dark
    We shield our eyes from the falling stars
    We run away, but we don’t know why

    Like a mirror the city lights shine
    They’re screaming at us, we don’t need your kind
    Sometimes I wonder if the world’s so small
    That we can never get away from the sprawl

    Living in the sprawl
    Dead shopping malls rise
    Like mountains beyond mountains
    And there’s no end in sight
    I need the darkness, someone please cut the lights

    You heard me singing and you told me stop
    Quit these pretentious things and just punch the clock
    Sometimes I wonder if the world’s so small
    Can we ever get away from the sprawl?

    Living in the sprawl
    Dead shopping malls rise
    Like mountains beyond mountains
    And there’s no end in sight
    I need the darkness, someone please cut the lights
    I need the darkness, someone please cut the lights

    Careful what you wish for.

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    joseph

    Came across this a while back . . . and been wondering what anyone thinks of the info in this site . . . . .

    http://www.truth-now.net/two-parliaments/

    Two Australian Parliaments.

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