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DiCaprio, Bono, and Al Gore: flying eyebrow artists for the planet

Advertising your virtues sometimes conflicts with advertising your social status.

Paul Joseph Watson never minces his words.

The surprising thing is that these guys get away with it. Not laughed out of town for their grandstanding piety at awards nights.

h/t Scott of the Pacific

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    In the old days indulgences would be sought From the catholic church by way of having your sins forgiven

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence

    Modern day indulgences in order to mitigate your carbon sins take many forms of which paying for trees to be planted or a donation to a green charity might be the most common.

    I wonder what sort of indulgences people like di caprio finance in order that they may have a clear conscience, assuming they see anything wrong or hypocritical in their carbon guzzling actions in the first place ?

    TonyB

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      ivan

      They don’t do indulgences in any form, it is all virtue signalling from them.

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        TdeF

        The carbon tax is an indulgence. You keep warming your home but have to pay a fine for the right to burn your own coal and that goes to mysterious people overseas who send back a piece of paper which promises you that they have done something to cancel our your sin. Vatican=UN, Pope=Al Gore, Cardinals=Hollywood, indulgences = carbon taxes.

        In Australia you overwhelmingly rejected carbon taxes. Ha! Under the RET the massive but hidden carbon taxes are paid by your electricity retailer. Half of your electricity. That is why the biggest power station with the cheapest product is going to closer next month. They cannot get paid and turn a profit despite the fact that consumers are paying record high electricity prices, up to 10x that of the US. All that for pieces of paper we could call carbon indulgences.

        As for Sovereign risk, the new reason the RET cannot be removed, we in Victoria sold Hazelwood for $2.6Bn in 1996. They then spent $80million cleaning the output. Now we declare it is the most polluting station in the country, increase the price of coal by 300% and force them to close. Sovereign risk? Theft by the Victorian Government which is hell bent on crippling manufacturing in Victoria.
        The biggest sufferers though will be Tasmania, South Australia and amazingly, NSW who were reliant on Hazelwood just two weeks ago and the biggest customer.

        So we have to watch our state collapse while Weatherill and Andrews will claim it is all someone else’s fault. Carbon indulgences plus an extreme socialist agenda to cripple private power.

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          Geoffrey Williams

          Another great blogg Td;
          Wake up Australia we already have a bloody carbon tax!!
          What’s more we don’t bloody want it and definitely don’t need it!!
          GeoffW

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          Raven

          I have no idea how Danial (Dan, to his friends) Andrews get’s away with it.

          Prior to the 2014 election, he promised to cancel the contract to build the Melbourne East West Link and that it wouldn’t cost Victoria a cent – saying “the contract was not worth the paper it was written on”. This was a campaign promise.
          After the Andrews election win, the Victorian Auditor General said the decision to scrap the road project would cost the state about $1.16 billion.

          Now, he’s forced Hazelwood to close and the French owners have upped stumps and gone home . . all in order to fulfil his renewables fantasy.

          Danial Andrews – the anti-infrastructure State Premier.
          Makes ya think though . .
          If you were the head of a large business involved in government infrastructure, would you want to do business with Daniel Andrews?
          I probably wouldn’t.

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            Dennis

            All squandering of monies undermining the state economy, and national economy as a result, in line with the socialism agenda to collapse capitalism as we have known it.

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          Dennis

          Yes, the hidden carbon tax was sneaked through Parliament with both sides cooperating not long after Turnbull became the PM

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    Alan McIntire

    They DON’T get away with it. I and my friends and relatives find them laughable. You can add Prince Charles to that list of four stooges.

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      I suspect that a large proportion of the general public find celebrities laughable. The sad thing is that celebrities are so full of themselves that they no longer see how foolish and hypocritical they appear to the public.

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        Geoffrey Williams

        I agree bemused, but not wholly. These people should be accountable for their carbon footprint just as the rest of society. Which begs the question just how accountable is ‘the rest of society?’ The answer it would seem is ‘not very accountable.’ They are happy to call for lower emissions to save mother earth, but Co2 emmissions from their travels just don’t appear on the radar!. In reality, 1/3 of all emmissions come from transportation (and travel), but all we hear about is renewable win/solar energy to replace coal. The argument to stop emmissions from travel is conveniently lost!
        GeoffW

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          Travel is one thing, but then consider where and how these celebrities live. Extremely larges houses (usually more than one), lots of expensive playthings, a lifestyle cost that would exceed that many small townships in its extravagance etc.

          I have no issue with any of this, if only these celebrities would shut up and stop preaching to others with that age old hypocrisy of ‘Do as I say, not as I do’.

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            Raven

            The hypocrisy of Leonardo DiCaprio could only be topped if he’d had a part in . . wait for it . . La La Land. ;)

            But playing at being the ‘planet saviour’ is in vogue these days and has all but displaced being vegan . . gosh.

            I have a friend who’s recently turned vegan after many years. She’s always agonised over animal cruelty and the inhumane slaughter. She keeps rescued chickens from battery farms and a whole menagerie of abandoned farm critters. For her, it’s an ethics issue.
            I would kid her about it initially, of course, but recognise that at least she walks the walk.

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              sophocles

              Give Mr DiCaprio a bit more rope and he’ll destroy his own credibility as thoroughly as Green Peace has just dealt to their own.

              Green Peace are being sued by Resolute, a Canadian forest products company, for defamation. Their defence is a real eye opener: in their latest legal filings they maintain that their accusations against Resolute were “hyperbole,” “heated rhetoric,” and “non-verifiable statements of subjective opinion.” They believe that the group cannot be held legally responsible because its claims are not meant to be factual.

              Well, that’s both feet shot off. Green Peace has no veracity, just “hyperbole,” “heated rhetoric” and “non-verifiable subjective opinion.” They seem to have overlooked the teensy point that that is exactly what defamation is about: telling porkies to create harm.

              Patrick Moore is right and anyone who thinks Green Peace is at all credible … well, I have this bridge for sale, it’s quite cheap and a fortune can be made from charging users tolls … :-)

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      They must be feeding celebrities some sort of mind altering drug. Patrick Stewart, an actor that I’ve admired, now wants to become a US citizen so that he can…fight Trump: http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/03/03/patrick-stewart-become-u-s-citizen-fight-trump/. How sad.

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        doubtingdave

        Patrick stewart used to be a great Shakespearean actor , I remember him playing the role of Janus in I Claudius , way back in 1974 , still in my opinion the greatest drama the BBC ever produced , when you watch that series now it looks dated , with poor lighting and a tight budget , but its still far superior to the soap opera crap that they push out nowadays that’s only fit for a bunch of sheeple , Patrick Stewart has long since sold out to the Hollywood dime and his own self importance , but some of the scenes in that drama will always live long in my memory , they just don’t make um like they used to

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          brill

          I remember that series too. Compulsory viewing at the time.

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          Hasbeen

          Can anyone think of any actor who appears in any way smart, when presenting their own thoughts, as distinct from reading someone else’s words.

          About the only one I’ve heard recently is Paul Hogan, Crocodile Dundee, but I have not heard all that much of him to judge by.

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        mikewaite

        So it is Patrick Stewart v. President Trump , that sounds an honourable fight all the more so for being somewhat onesided .
        Except that Trump is only President because the people of USA elected him.
        So it is actually P Stewart v. the voters of the USA – does not sound quite so honourable now does it .
        Also , demographic analysis after the election showed that much of Trump’s support was from the working class of the US ,
        So now it is: P Stewart v. the working class of the US.
        The only thing that stops it being quite horribly dishonourable on the part of Patrick Stewart is that it is so laughingly ridiculous.

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      Mark M

      07 Mar 2009: “The Prince of Wales is to issue a stark warning that nations have “less than 100 months to act” to save the planet from irreversible damage due to climate change.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/4952918/Prince-Charles-we-have-100-months-to-save-the-world.html

      4 months to go and we are in the “less than” window.
      . . .

      Doomsday Hint: Check the ‘use by date’ on anything you buy in the next 4 months and avoid green bananas.”

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      TdeF

      Prince Charles means well. He is not an elected representative or scientist and like many people, believes what he hears. That is the problem. When the chief scientist or the head of the Royal Society says it is all real, who is Charles to contradict them?

      I know it is a life of extreme privilege but how many people would want his level of scrutiny on their daily lives. It is a luxury prison beyond fame. You only have to raise an eyebrow and it is world news and people pass judgement. I believe Charles is a good person who does a demanding job under intense scrutiny and never ending pressure. Still better than the Chinese emperor who literally staid on the throne all day with spectators for everything. These jobs come at a price most would not be prepared to pay.

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    As reported by a perfectly straight-faced ABC in December 2012.

    The A-list stars will be celebrating New Year’s Eve in Sydney before boarding a small aircraft to Canberra where a jumbo jet will take them directly to Las Vegas in time for New Year’s Eve there. It is believed Leonardo DiCaprio is among the movie stars wanting to take part in two New Year celebrations in one ‘night’…Canberra Airport managing director Stephen Byron says the capital’s curfew-free status will allow the 747 to take off between 1:00am and 2:00am AEDT. “We’ve always said Canberra Airport’s got a key role as an overflow for Sydney in terms of this night time activity,” he said. “A lot of it would be 747 freighters but in this case the 747 freight is A-list celebrities and that’s pretty exciting too.”

    An equally straight-faced New York Times on Di Caprio’s Belize eco-development of 68 guest villas and 48 owner-occupied villas with price tags ranging from $5 million to $15 million, all crammed on to one little 104 acre island (but built following the concept of sacred geometry!):

    “The main focus is to do something that will change the world,” Mr. DiCaprio said.

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    Ernest Bush

    Of those three, DiCaprio and Al Gore have very little credibility among average Americans. The rest of Americans are too busy working at low paying jobs in the U.S. to have time to follow their antics. Some might even seriously say, “Al who?” Bono has praised capitalism as having lifted more people out of poverty than any other system. He also stated in a press conference that he no longer contributes to UNICEF because they are doing almost nothing for children. He says he donates to children’s causes through private foundations. For that I personally cut him a little slack.

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      TdeF

      Exactly. These people mean well, live a life of privilege and try to give something back. They are criticized if they say nothing and criticized if they speak out. I prefer Tom Hank’s replacement coffee machine for the Press Corps in the White House. He replaced it again this year with the note, for truth, justice and the American way, especially the truth bit.

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    Leonard Lane

    I did’nt care for the profanity.

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    Leonard Lane

    didn’t

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    PhilJourdan

    Who would laugh them out of town? Seriously, the Audience there is as dense as the principals! That is what the last election showed us. Hollywood is NOT America. You do not need a brain to be a great actor/actress- you just have to have a good ability to lie. Which is what the craft of acting is all about.

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    Oliver K. Manuel

    They are each too isolated in their own “ego cages” of self-centeredness to care about the general welfare of humanity.

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    Graeme No.3

    Can anyone confirm the rumour that he told people in Alberta to shut the Northern Lights off as “it wasted electricity” ?

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      Phantor48

      Graeme No. 3:
      I can’t comment about the Northern Lights, but I know (as an Albertan) that when DiCaprio was in Alberta filming for The Revenant, he was convinced that our Chinook winds were an indicator of global warming, and that the good citizens were alarmed by them.

      The prevaling winds in Alberta come from the west. Sometimes there are strong, moist winds blowing in from British Columbia. They have to rise to get over the Rocky Mountains. This causes them to cool and lose their moisture over the mountains. On the Alberta side, the now dry air warms as it descends through the mountain passes producing the strong, warm and dry Chinook winds. The temperature can rise many degrees in an hour or so; and in the winter the Chinooks will both melt snow and evaporate the resulting moisture. This tends to moderate the winters in southern Alberta, as the Chinook conditions can sometimes last for several days.

      DiCaprio notwithstanding, the Chinooks have been in existence for as long as the Rocky Mountains, have absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with global warming, and tend to be much appreciated by the locals.

      The only “schnook” that concerns me is DiCaprio himself!

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        Graeme No.3

        Thank you for your reply. I didn’t know if it was true but it seemed that he was likely to believe it.

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    Completely agree – how do they get away with it? I guess the TV people agree with their views and so will not show them up. Mind you they get a lot of deserved stick in some of the press and , of course the sceptic blogs!!

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    doubtingdave

    Jo , thanks for giving Paul J Watson some airspace , I have been a fan for a long time , he is always well researched and has the typical sarcastic humour that us Brits are known for in his delivery , are you trying to give INFOWARS a helping hand knowing they are under attack from GOOGLE censorship and loss of advertising , Alex Jones is such an eccentric its difficult to admit your a fan in polite company ;)

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      Annie

      I’d look at him more if he dropped the ‘F’ word; I find it ugly and offensive.

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        Annie

        BTW, I wasn’t the red thumber there Dave. You make a good point.

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          doubtingdave

          ANNIE , agree with you on his language, people use it to emphasize a point they are trying to make as if it makes it more valid , when you are armed with the facts its just not necessary to be deliberately offensive , that’s the tactics of those from the left that don’t have facts so have to fall back on being rude to score cheap points , such as American Bill Maher who is a complete jerk , in my inoffensive opinion

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        Raven

        I agree actually. While I don’t find the ‘F’ word all that offensive, it’s probably because it’s become mainstream.
        More recently, they’re pushing the ‘C’ word.
        I don’t know what we’ll do for shock value next year because that’s the last one on the list.

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    Ruairi

    Flying thousands of miles just to reach,
    A stage for their climate-change speech,
    These celebs talk tripe,
    When they could easily skype,
    And practise the message they preach.

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    David Maddison

    (I didn’t write this, it came from a meme.)

    Dear singers and actors:

    We spend our hard earned money to hear your music, and to watch you pretend to be characters in movies and on TV.

    Your only job is to entertain us. To take us away from reality.

    Your personal opinion means nothing to us.

    You are significant and influential only in your own mind, and within the minds of your elitist peers.

    You are a marionette to us. Nothing more.

    SING. ACT. SHUT UP.

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      Grant (NZ)

      I have said before that I would believe people were serious about Climate Change if they proposed a solution that involved the elimination of all non-essential human activity – elimination of sports, entertainment and holiday travel. This would result in unemployment for professional sportsmen, actors, musicians etc etc. Life would not be as rich, but we would seriously reduce carbon emissions.

      I am not seriously suggesting this myself, but I see this as the fastest and most direct way of dealing with the “problem” if it exists. Leonardo Di Caprio can come and do some feeding out and fencing on my property to earn some income.

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        Mark M

        “Summer never arrived” says The Guardian.

        “Weather patterns are to blame.
        Climate change is to blame.
        It doesn’t matter – she didn’t show.” 
        “Summer, in the south especially, never showed,” says The Guardian.
        “The National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research has called it one of the worst New Zealand summers on record.
        Cloudy and windy in the capital Wellington, and unusually cold in the south island, with 50cm of snow falling in January.”

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/01/new-zealands-lost-summer-how-will-we-make-it-through-the-winter-gloom

        Leo doesn’t do snow unless there is a camera around.

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          farmerbraun

          “one of the worst New Zealand summers on record.”

          Yep it was a nightmare ; green grass for miles ; cows struggling to keep up with the growth ; lambs just blooming ; FORCED to make two cuts of silage ; and two cuts of hay (in brilliant hay making weather in December and January) ; no need for the conserved feed , which will now go to reserves.

          Yep , sure was a bummer.

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            Grant (NZ)

            I agree. Second summer in a row we have had insufficient stock for the feed available. Our calves are the best grown I have seen.

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          PeterPetrum

          Just arrived back this very minute from two weeks in the north of the NZ South Island (Picton, Marlborough, Golden Bay). Brilliant weather, 23+ every day, but it clearly has been wet. The amount of baled hay in the paddocks is amazing and the milking herds look superb. Must be the extra CO2.

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            farmerbraun

            Nice timing. Autumn (beginning February) is the time to take holidays . . . . . hot days and cool nights. Perfect (except during floods or droughts) :-)

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        Annie

        That would certainly affect the airline business!

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      PhilJourdan

      You are a marionette to us. Nothing more.

      Ok, you get a greenie for making us aware of it. But the author should get 100! I love that! I just called them professional liars (they are as they lie to make you believe they are a character they are not), but Marionette? That is so much more descriptive!

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      When yer on a high in the world of entertainment,
      when yer a movie star bedazzled by life on the silver screen,
      distinctions between appearance and reality git blurred,
      a pilgrimage by jet to eco island can seem a parallel to
      a pilgrimage on foot to Bethlehem.

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      Ian Hill

      At a web site where I like to waste time playing cards I keep on seeing an advertisement with Paul McCartney’s aging mug telling us to “take climate action”. Been there since the Paris thingy.

      At least there is one Beatle who doesn’t appear to have been affected. Any parent who raised children in the 1990s got to see Ringo Starr narrating the Thomas The Tank Engine series with all those naughty coal guzzling steam engines. Wasn’t an issue then.

      Come to think of it, emissions is still not an issue, so while these bozos don’t practice what they preach, it doesn’t matter anyway. Funny isn’t it?

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    Grant (NZ)

    Have you noticed that Di Caprio is an anagram for hypocrite?

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      Griffo

      I cannot find hypocrite in Di Caprio,how about Idi Crapo,or Idi Carpo?

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        …..how about Idi Crapo,or Idi Carpo?

        And now for the weather report from Kampala.

        Ah joost been up on the roof of the Air Ministry, and it’s pi$$ing down wid rain.

        Oh, wait a minute, that’s Idi Amin.

        Tony.

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          OroginalSteve

          Reminds me of a 2 Ronnies skit, “where asked about defence, the Minister responded saying ‘da man wid da nails is coming tomorrow to fix it….’

          Gotts love the 70s….

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          Griffo

          Thanks Tony,there was a satirist I think Alan Coren was the man who wrote commentary from Kampala( in same vein as your post) in Punch magazine,alas no longer in existence.

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          PeterPetrum

          Always remember the cartoon that came out the day after the Israelies raided Edi Amin’s stronghold and rescued their countrymen. The cartoon was just a black square with two wide open eyes in the top LH corner. The caption read “What de hell been goin’ on hea!” Try it with an African accent and just imagine the angst old Edi must have felt. Priceless!

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Great video. But go to Alex Jones InfoWars.com website which hosts the video and you’ll see advertising for “Survival Shield X2 Nascent Iodine”, the latest health supplement cure-all. A 30 ml dropper bottle of this stuff costs around $60 AUD. Nascent Iodine? Iodine in this highly reactive form would have a very short life. How the purveyors of this expensive iodine supplement can claim that the iodine in “Survival Shield X2 Nascent Iodine” is in a nascent state is surely a case for the rort squad.

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    David Maddison

    There is some good climate realist poetry here:

    https://rhymeafterrhyme.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/enrichment-through-environmental-stealth/

    Here’s an excerpt:

    With every turn of their blade another subsidy paid,
    A disguised redistribution of wealth;
    The poor pay higher amounts to fund “green” bank accounts,
    Enrichment through environmental stealth.

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    David Maddison

    Climate warrior John Travolta with his collection of five jets named his son “Jett” in honour of his hobby.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/with-five-private-jets-travolta-still-lectures-on-global-warming-7244988.html?amp

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    Another Ian

    More acting!


    Dr. Patrick Moore was right: @Greenpeace IS full of sh*t
    Anthony Watts / 50 mins ago March 3, 2017

    I’ve never had a headline like this, but Greenpeace deserves it for their mind-bending defense in a defamation lawsuit: basically their defense is “we publish hyperbole, therefore it isn’t actionable because it isn’t factual”. GMAFB!”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/03/03/dr-patrick-moore-was-right-greenpeace-is-full-of-shit/

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      TdeF

      “In fact, they (Greepeace) admitted those claims had no merit.” What?

      So it would help could add this to the bottom of their brochures,advertising, products or films like Inconvenient Truth

      “The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.”

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    Mark D.

    Leonardo?

    A twit is he is.

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    Seems “The Independent” has retracted the claim that it was a Leo story

    We previously reported that Leonardo DiCaprio was one member of the Hollywood elite who flew Hamilton the 7,500 across the Pacific Ocean, but we have since learnt that this was incorrect.

    It was 7499 miles, I’m guessing

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    RAH

    They really are worthless scum. Add the Prince Charles and Arnold Schwarenegger to your list of uber climate hypocrites.
    Old Arnold sure is going down hill quick. He can’t even carry President Trumps old gig: http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-he%E2%80%99s-done-with-%E2%80%98apprentice%E2%80%99-blames-poor-ratings-on-trump-involvement/ar-AAnLw2D?OCID=ansmsnnews11
    and is blaming the President for his own miserable failure.

    As for Prince Charles? GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

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    u.k.(us)

    He is the low hanging fruit.
    If you want to see where the real money is, look to GE or Siemens.
    They will manufacture anything you want (or are told you want),as long as it keeps their shareholders happy.

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    David Maddison

    O/T

    Even the enemedia is now reporting on toxic windpower.

    https://www.facebook.com/ttadelaide/videos/1376455412376071/

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      It’s off topic I know, but it’s good to see something like this.

      It will have an impact, but it will only be minimal, and once mentioned in a TV article like this, it will be conveniently forgotten, probably not seen by very many people in the first place, and not going to be repeated.

      This is 4 minutes and eight seconds of television.

      What would have more effect is the following, and it also could be most effectively summarised in the same time. With this video, they used experts to explain things and in a similar nature, experts could be used to explain the following, and I am certain it would have decidedly more impact, because, unlike this video, which is informational and may end up is some ordinary punters taking the time to follow it up for their own benefit, the following is just so totally outrageous that anyone watching would follow it up, probably just for curiosity’s sake, and then send it on to someone else, with the possibility that it could go viral.
      .
      It could go like this:
      .

      Currently in Australia, we have almost 4,000MW (Nameplate) for wind power, and that’s around 2,500 plus individual wind towers, two and a half THOUSAND individual power generators on top of those tall towers with the fans out the front.

      TWO AND A HALF THOUSAND of them, with a total Nameplate of 4,000MW.

      However, the total electrical power generated for consumption comes in at only 10,000GWH per year.

      Bayswater has four units and delivers 17,500GWH of power each year.

      So, here we have two and a half thousand wind towers, and yet they only deliver the same power as two and a bit units at Bayswater.

      We have what amounts to a huge total for wind power, and yet not enough power to close down HALF of ONE coal fired power plant.

      Get an electrical engineer on and use the same 4 minutes of TV to explain that, and watch the result.

      I can guarantee that people will actually start asking the RIGHT questions.

      Chemical problems like this, noise problems, visual impact on the environment are all relevant and good points to make, but tell people that they are useless at doing their PRIME work, generating electricity, and then, people will start to sit up and take notice.

      TWO AND A HALF THOUSAND towers and not enough power to close TWO units at ONE power plant.

      Tony.

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        ScotsmaninUtah

        Tony,

        I your liked this post

        ..tell people that they are useless at doing their PRIME work, generating electricity..

        as an Engineer who works on DO-178b and DO-254 type systems I often have to analyse single point failures and worst case scenarios.

        Your comment is so true and from the viewpoint of being a critical system even the current 2,400 Towers of Windpwer would still fail certification as they fail to implement their primary requirement

        If we are to consider Windpower as a useful power generatiing system per se, i think we need to always include a redundancy part too for it to come even close to replacing an equivalent Bayswater type system.

        really like your posts, very informative, thankyou :D
        Peter

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      el gordo

      German media is reporting on poverty.

      ‘The DPA German press agency reported yesterday on the rapidly spreading energy poverty now engulfing the country.

      ‘The main driver is Germany’s skyrocketing electricity prices – primarily due to the legally mandatory feeding-in of wind and solar power. Currently regular household consumers are paying nearly 30 cents a kilowatt-hour – almost three times the rate paid in the USA.’

      - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.svK167AL.dpuf

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        RAH

        During my time in the US military I spent nearly 5 years in Germany in the 80s. I loved the 3 years I was stationed at Flint Kaserne in the Bavarian story book town of Bad Tolz in Bavaria. The Bavarians treated us very well and we had a great rapport with them. So much history and so well maintained. It is a shame to see what was become what it is today. Electricity now becoming a luxury? During my time there the emergency electrical supply for the Kaserne was the same as it had been for the SS officers “Junkerschule” during WW II. A Diesel power unit and generator as used in their U-boats housed in it’s own wooden shed. I can’t recall it having to be used even once during my time there. I wonder if their grid is so reliable now?

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        TdeF

        According to Paul O’Malley, chief of Bluescope with operations in Australia and the US, our industrial pricing is nearly 10x the rate charged in the US. Guess where Australian steel will be made soon?

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          RAH

          Well if things in Australia remain the same it will almost certainly get even worse. With Trump ending the lefts “war on coal” and thus the heavy industries (such as the making of steel and other metals) and electrical power generation which benefits from that relatively cheap fuel should do much better. On top of that Trump has promised to greatly reduce the taxes on corporations. There will come a time when a lot of other western Industrialized nations (and I include Australia in that grouping) are going to have to face the economic disadvantage that is going to result if the continue down their current path.

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    This doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. This is more about being ‘seen’ to be doing the right thing than actually doing it. It’s a complete ego thing, the actual environment consequences of their actions don’t figure in their minds.

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    ROM

    Ok , the question was asked ; How do these guys get away with it

    And here is a probable / possible answer, one I have been aware of for a long time and one I gathered through my sometimes rather catholic reading tastes, a personality type that has been researched and shown to be highly applicable when it comes around to a goodly percentage of the high flyers in every aspect of life.

    The quotes are gleaned from a number of sources but are generally all along the same theme.
    .

    Corporate Psychopathy:

    In his talk, Dr. Babiak, a leading industrial and organizational psychologist and co-author of ‘Snakes in Suits – When Psychopaths Go to Work,’ provided an overview of the modern-day corporate psychopath. They look and dress the same way as most business people, are charming, persuasive, charismatic, often fun to be around and, at first glance, seem to demonstrate strong leadership skills.

    The Main Characteristics of Psychopaths

    Dr. Babiak outlined some of the main characteristics and beliefs of psychopaths including their ability to be charming, likeable, and self-confident but at the same time insincere, untrustworthy and insensitive to the feelings of others. They also have a belief in their superiority over other people and the law, a sense of entitlement, and a belief that all blame lies with other people.

    In research conducted by Drs. Babiak, Neumann and Hare of 203 executives from seven international companies, 3.9% were found to have high levels of psychopathic traits. The prevalence of psychopathy in the general population is only 1%. Unfortunately, according to Babiak, one of the biggest challenges in identifying corporate psychopaths is that in day-to-day activities they often bear the hallmarks of good leaders through their charm, charisma, and larger-than-life personalities.

    In reality, however, they are unable to build teams, have no respect for individuals, lack integrity and wisdom, and are only interested in their own success –

    .
    From; Psychopathic Symptoms: Spotting the Symptoms of a Psychopath; American Healthy Place; Mental health channel

    While many people would likely see a serial killer as necessarily a psychopath, not all psychopaths kill.

    &
    Symptoms of a Psychopath

    According to the Society for the Scientific Study of Psychopathy (Psychopathy Society), affective psychopathic symptoms include:
    .

    A lack of guilt – spot this symptom when a psychopath does something that hurts another and feels no remorse about it.

    A lack of empathy and compassion – spot this psychopathic symptom when the psychopath fails to understand or identify with the pain of others.

    A lack of deep attachment to others – spot this symptom in a psychopath who keeps away from others, particularly emotionally.
    .

    Note that because a psychopath is often manipulative and charming, he or she may fake any of the above emotions.

    The Psychopathy Society identifies the following interpersonal psychopathic symptoms:
    .

    Narcissism – watch for an inflated sense of self and only caring about the self (more on the narcissistic psychopath).

    Superficial charm – look for a charming personality that always seems to say the right things but whose actions likely don’t match the words.
    .

    The Psychopathy Society identifies these antisocial behavioral symptoms of a psychopath:
    .

    Dishonesty – while a psychopath may try to charm his or her way out of a lie, look out for them, nonetheless.

    Manipulativeness – this psychopathic symptom can be used in conjunction with any other to try and make the psychopath appear like other, non-psychopathic, people.

    Reckless risk-taking – spot this symptom when the psychopath takes big risks with no regards to the consequences on himself/herself or others.

    .
    Remember, psychopaths are typically in touch with reality and know who they are and what they’re doing. That means they may work to fit in with others and hide their psychopathic tendencies which can make them difficult to spot.

    Actors and actresses have some very glaring personality disorders that run very close to many of the psychopathic characteristics outlined in the quotes, which can often be identified from events in their past and present life if you wish to delve into that past life.
    And which is the prime reason as to why they are successful as actors and actresses.
    .

    Gore of course is the archetypal corporate psychopath in the same mold of acting as referred to above as shown by just about action he has ever taken or been involved in over the last couple of decades.
    .
    And to run through the check list on Psychopathy as devised by Dr Hare and used extensively for mental health assessments and to check the mental characteristics of the subjects of this blog post of Jo’s
    Does a Psychopath Test Exist? Diagnosing the Psychopath

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      Hasbeen

      This bloke has been studying Turnbull.

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        ROM

        A long time ago when the Ararat Mental Hospital was still operating here in western Victoria in the 1960′s I was lucky to able to attend an informal talk by one of the psychiatrists based at that Institution.
        And it was quite some time before the advent of a whole range of newly developed drugs and treatments for many forms of mental health problems had become available for the treatment of the very unfortunate sufferers of such problems.

        One thing really stuck in my mind from his talk.
        He described a middle aged patient who was mentally inflicted so as to be totally incapable of looking after himself or performing the most minor of personal tasks to the extent that he had to wear nappies to stop soiling himself.

        But he had a piece of wood of around 6 inches long and that was his single sole possession that he completely identified with and it was his alone.

        He could make that piece of very shiny wood, the psychiatrist told us, literally dance and spin and cavort on his fingers until it looked was truly alive and a living animated object.
        To see this patient and his piece of wood dancing on his fingers was something that amazed everybody who saw it.
        .

        But the little piece of information from that psychiatrist that I have never forgotten.

        Every single one of us, he told us, has all those mental characteristics of that mental patient and all the other patients in that Institution built into us as living breathing people.

        It is merely a matter of degree as to what extent each of us personally and unknowingly exhibit those mental characteristics and how they are so highly varied from individual to individual and finally how they are revealed in the world we each live in as a part and parcel of our personality.

        So to say that someone is a psychopath which gives the impression of a black or white, no alternative shades permitted, to that claim, completely overlooks the multitudinous array of interacting personality traits and the highly individualistic mental characteristics that span the entire range of human mentality in each of us personally and across our human race, mental charactertistics that each of has and often both knowingly and unknowingly exhibit to those we associate with and interact with in the world around us.

        Best said by my late mother in the old meaning of the words.; All the world tis queer except you and me and even you are a bit queer at times.

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          OriginalSteve

          I am concerned the advent of the smartphone may push people too hard. By this i mean people can operate in a position of elevated stress fir a short period of time, then drop back to normality. However, now everything and everyone demands instant everything and 24*7 living. Promblem – humans need sleep and recovery time.

          Long term we are playing with fire, namely that people who might be borderline in some behavoral areas that could be deemed psychopath, may be pyshed over the edge.

          Yes, there has always been technology change, i am concerned the “always on” mentality may break peoples minds long term. Pounding on a spot on a lump of concrete takes a while to develop a crack, but when it happens, its quick to fail and humans arent indestructible….

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    pat

    clipe in comment #21 rightly notes UK Independent made a retraction.

    I posted Daily Mail’s 27 Feb version on jo’s Weekend Unthreaded, along with their top comment “More global carbon footprints by the Hollywood hypocritical liberal elite!”

    I also added “Fairfax had this story first, without a hint about CAGW alarmist Leo’s LARGE “carbon footprint”.”.

    Sydney eyebrow artist summoned to LA for the Oscars
    Sydney Moring Herald – 24 Feb 2017

    no-one else picked up the story for about 3 days.

    it’s irrelevant to Paul Joseph Watson’s great piece, which covers so much more of DiCaprio’s hypocrisy, but should be noted anyay, though who knows what the retraction really means.

    compare the Independent’s retraction which clipe posted with the Fairfax one, in this lengthy Mashable piece, which has tweets and pics from the eyebrow genius Sharon-Lee Hamilton, proving she did go to L.A. for the ceremony:

    28 Feb: Mashable: Tricia Gilbride: Turns out Leonardo DiCaprio didn’t fly someone from Australia out to do his eyebrows for the Oscars
    UPDATE: March 1, 2017, 3:06 p.m. EST:
    The Sydney Morning Harald has updated their story with the following statement:
    “Representatives for DiCaprio say Hamilton was not a member of his Oscars glam squad and he did not fund her flying visit to the US.”…
    Lee flew out of Qantas International airport on Feb 23. CHECK THE TWEETS, PICS
    http://mashable.com/2017/02/28/leonardo-dicaprio-oscar-eyebrows/#KdVVTK1KMSq6

    DiCapio was a presenter at the awards.
    did the Academy or DiCaprio’s agent or similar pay for Hamilton’s trip?
    did Hamilton do Leo’s brows?
    the retraction doesn’t say and we’ll probably never know.
    the retraction was really just damage control for DiCaprio after the story went viral on DrudgeReport.

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    Bulldust

    Thanks for promoting PJW Jo. He does a lot of good work unravelling the fringes of the left which have gone politically astray in many countries. His delivery is always hard hitting and I realise some don’t like his use of language, but bear in mind this is the internet. Mild approaches don’t generate the attention. While you may consider the style lacking, the substance is there and it is about reaching a younger audience.

    For those interested in some background, here is an hour long interview he did with Dave Rubin:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I40q11O5W4E

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    AndyG55

    Come on, there MUST be someone out there willing to defend poor Mr di Crapio.

    We dearly want to hear from you. :-)

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      James Bradley

      Okay… here goes… Someone once commented to me that DiCaprio wasn’t an actor’s backside, but I set them straight – I told them he was.

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      Lionell Griffith

      He has received high awards for faking reality (let’s pretend; aka reading a script convincingly; aka acting) from a cadre of people who have also received awards for faking reality. Neither of which qualifies him or those who voted for him for knowing anything but a multiplicity of fake realities based upon fictionalized scripts. Entertaining perhaps but tells us next to nothing about the how, why, and what of the real world.

      He does have a right to his opinions but does not have a right to his facts. The facts belong to reality which is accessible by anyone who has a functioning brain and know how to use it. Reality is realm within which he is a stranger in a strange land. Ditto for most if not all of the over hyped Hollywood crowd.

      Mark me down as unconvinced and unimpressed.

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    pat

    given this thread is about “celebrities”, here’s another tale.

    no story went more viral this week than this one:

    SBS: President Oprah? Winfrey doesn’t rule out 2020 run

    SMH: Donald Trump made Oprah Winfrey rethink White House bid

    NYT: Oprah Winfrey suggests a run for president in 2020 is possible

    BBC: Oprah Winfrey for president? ‘Now I’m thinking’

    Fortune: Oprah Says Donald Trump Made Her Rethink Her Chance of Being President

    WaPo: Oprah is hinting at a run for president. So let’s predict the great Oprah-Trump campaign of 2020.

    NBC: Oprah 2020? Winfrey Hints at Presidential Run Against Trump

    9News: Oprah Winfrey Ponders Running for President in Wake of Donald Trump’s Win

    Harpers Australia: Oprah Winfrey Is Considering Running For President Of The United States
    Oprah Winfrey has blessed us all with the hope of another incredible female running for President of the United States in 2020—Beyoncé is already on the growing wish list, of course. While a guest on The David Rubenstein Show…

    hmmm! sounds pretty definite, doesn’t it?

    except it was totally FakeNewsMSM as usual, & sparked off by Bloomberg.

    David Rubenstein (founder of The Carlyle Group – once loathed by the left – now has an occasional program “Peer to Peer Conversations” on Bloomberg TV.

    Rubenstein interviewed Oprah on December 12 2016, but, for some unknown reason (lol), Bloomberg decided to release a brief 51-sec video excerpt after Trump’s triumphant speech to Congress. this became the basis of all the media coverage.
    Rubenstein floated the idea:

    TRANSCRIPT:
    Rubenstein: “Have you ever thought that, given the popularity you have — we haven’t broken the glass ceiling yet for women — that you could actually run for president and actually be elected?”

    Winfrey: “I never considered the question, even a possibility,” she began, before suggesting the question made her reconsider the idea. “I just thought, ‘Oh… oh?’”

    Rubenstein: “Because, it’s clear you don’t need government experience to be elected president of the United States”

    Winfrey: “That’s what I thought. I thought, ‘oh gee, I don’t have the experience, I don’t know enough’… And now I’m thinking — Oh.”

    how many people who heard this story know the following?

    2 Mar: [Video 19secs] Z103.5 Radio, Toronto: Update: Oprah Clarifies Her Answer About Running For President “No. That Won’t Be Happening.”
    No. Oprah Winfrey does not plan on running for President. It seems some thought she was hinting at it when she answered a question about whether she thought about the fact that “you could actually run for President and actually be elected?” She answered “I never considered the question even a possibility – then I thought.. OH!” Sorry Oprah fans, that does not mean we will see Oprah 2020 campaigns starting up anytime soon.

    ***The same show that asked the question to begin with decided to also release this part of the interview after they realized it was ***taken out of context. “No. That won’t be happening”.
    https://z1035.com/video-update-oprah-clarifies-answer-running-president-no-wont-happening/

    oh…Bloomberg releases a video out of context, then releases another video with the context, but it was the rest of the FakeNewsMSM that took it out of context?

    1 Mar: TMZ: Oprah
    Stand Down …
    I’m NOT Running for Prez
    Oprah Winfrey’s heard a day full of buzz and wants to make it clear … she’s NOT going to the White House — not as POTUS, anyway.
    Bloomberg posted an additional clip from its ‘David Rubenstein Show’ which shows Oprah putting an end to all the speculation that started when she danced around the initial question: Would she run for president?
    http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/01/oprah-will-not-run-for-president/

    funny how FakeNewsMSM forgot they had devoted headlines to Oprah for this statement in January:

    4 Jan: Daily Beast: Oprah to (Stephen) Colbert: I Am ‘Never’ Running for Political Office, But Will Miss the Obamas

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      OriginalSteve

      Wow, we go from incumbent marxist to hard core reallist, but almost had a communist. And now a prez candidate that is the New Age queen?

      I hope Trump is in power for a long long time…..what a mess….

      Modern US politics is more a modern tragedy like “MacBeth” on capitol hill…

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      toorightmate

      The old 1988 clip of Oprah interviewing Donald Trump is interesting for two reasons:
      1. Trump said he would never contemplate running for president unless the political situation ever reached the “unrecoverable” stage (and so it came to pass).
      2. Every bit of his philosophy in 1988 remains unchanged.

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    pat

    no surprise:

    3 Mar: Reuters: Laurie Goering: Less than 10 percent of climate aid reaching poorest: researchers
    In part, that is because international climate funds, under pressure to get donated funds into action, are opting to work with development banks and other big international agencies that can quickly spend millions – rather than with smaller-scale local governments and projects, said researchers at the London-based International Institute for Environmental and Development (IIED).
    Weak local ability to design and evaluate projects, and to fill out complicated forms to access money are another problem, the report said, as is the smaller scale of local projects, as vetting each one takes more time.
    Another obstacle is the lack of a specific target in the Paris Agreement on climate change to spend more finance at the local level, the researchers said in a report released this week…

    Today, donors have given only 11 percent of the climate funds they promised, in part because of the obstacles, she said.
    Richer nations have promised to donate or otherwise mobilize $100 billion a year by 2020 to help poorer countries switch to clean energy and adapt to problems such as worsening droughts, flooding and sea level rise.
    But getting that money raised and flowing has proved challenging…
    The United States, for instance, has promised $3 billion to the Green Climate Fund and so far delivered $1 billion. But President Donald Trump has suggested he would not make any additional contributions, and may pull the United States out of its international climate agreements.

    The lack of international finance is a problem for countries such as Ethiopia, which has estimated it needs $7.5 billion a year to switch to clean energy and adapt to climate change, but is so far receiving between $100 million and $200 million a year in international support…
    Ethiopia is nonetheless moving ahead with a large-scale national push toward hydropower and wind, solar and geothermal energy, and on projects to adapt to climate change, including worsening drought, said Gebru Jember Endalew, the program coordinator for Climate Change Forum-Ethiopia and the new chair of the Least Developed Countries group in international climate change negotiations…
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-finance-poor-idUSKBN16A1BV

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    pat

    postscript from the days when the MSM, incl Oprah & her audience, LOVED “The Donald”!

    Youtube: 3mins10secs: Donald Trump Teases a President Bid During a 1988 Oprah Show
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

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    Amber

    What if any scientific education does DeCaprio have ? Oh … Al Gore taught him ? That says it all .
    Yes climate change is real … Who knew ?
    And it’s even warming thank God !

    What most people haven’t clued into is that when the scary global scammers rebranded their whipped up crisis name to “climate change” they also failed to announce they cleverly defined “climate change ” as that all caused by humans . That is why Bill Nye ,recently on FOX TV, said when challenged as to what % of climate change was caused by humans he first tried to avoid answering but when pressed said it was 100 % .

    Why would Bill Nye the comedic mechanical engineer come out with such utter rubbish ? The answer is he had to . Acknowledging that nature variables are by far the dominant factors effecting climate would destroy the
    “climate change ” illusion . CO2 as everyone knows is plant food making up a fraction of one percent of the atmosphere and is at an almost historic bottom even with human trace amount additions that have more benefits than drawbacks .

    One of the big mistakes the scary global tricksters made was demonizing the wrong trace gas CO2 . They placed a bet on it because most other bi- products of fossil fuel use can actually be scrubbed and contained ( well OK not in China ) .

    They know as soon as the scientifically illiterate realize they have been had by a positive trace gas that has about the same effect of adding half a thimble of water to an Olympic swimming pool the jig would be up .

    Trump getting elected and the liberal left unraveling all over the world will finish off one of the biggest scams in history.

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      Yes, Amber, word change from globul warming to ‘climate change’
      or, yikes, to ‘climate DISRUPTION.’

      Been going on since way back dictators’ and utopianists’
      messaging. Watch for the pea and thimble,’slavery’ means
      ‘freedom.’

      Plato provides a model.In ‘The Republic,’ using Socrates
      as his sock puppet,( Socrates being deceased and unable
      to defend his open society critical discussion, even with
      slaves.) Plato’s got ‘Socrates’ arguing that ‘justice’
      means ‘keeping what is one’s own.’ And after lulling the
      readers’ critical faculties by casuistry, justice comes
      to mean ‘your right to stay in your place’ ie in Plato’s
      hierarchical Utopia,’… The philosopher king to rule, the
      soldier to soldier on, the slave to slave, silver mine,
      fields, whatever. Karl Popper’s'Open Society and Its
      Enemies,’Vol 1, Ch 6 on totalitarian justice shows the
      maestro at the long game of fooling the cits.

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      Julian Feltcher

      Al Gore has done nothing but attempt to save humanity from itself, the fact that people on denier blogs such as this attack him personally speaks volumes on their personality flaws that drive their egos over the fate of all humanity, use all the satire and creative writing you want but in the end history will see you all in a very poor light.

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        Yeah right!

        When he left Office as the Vice President, his net personal wealth was $1.7 Million.

        Now, it’s well up beyond $200Million plus. I guess he found a nice cash cow eh!

        Wonder what that could be?

        Tony.

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        AndyG55

        oh dear.. poor GULLIBLE Julienne.

        How do you exist with such a stilted mind. ?

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        AndyG55

        “history will see you all in a very poor light”

        you mean sorta like to your myopic tunnel-vision ??

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          Graeme No.3

          No Andy, he means that with renewable energy only you won’t be able to see much after the sun goes down. (this is sort of funnier if you live in SA).

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          Julian Feltcher

          Tunnel vision, like your obsession with fossil fuels and CO2 without solid scientific knowledge of their true impacts on earths systems?

          I suppose a rendition of ice core stacks will be next absent of the critical flaws in the blending of samples that draw no conclusions compared to recent accelerated temperature rise that can be backed up with empirical evidence.

          Who’s gullible now Nova monkey boy?

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            Graeme No.3

            Would you be so kind as to translate that into coherent english?

            I am not aware of solid scientific knowledge of the impact of CO2 on earths (sic) systems outside the carbon cycle. And as for recent accelerated temperature rise are you referring to the warming in the early eighteenth century which was roughly 7 times that since the low point in the 1880′s?

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              AndyG55

              :Would you be so kind as to translate that into coherent english?:

              I don’t think his ranting will allow him to. ;-)

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            ROM

            Julian Feltcher @ #33.2.3.2

            A couple of questions for you!

            1 / About 330,000 households in Germany have been cut off from power during this last year due to Germany’s drive to Renewable energy and the consequent increase in german energy costs to 3 times the rate of the USA and double the rates here in Australia.
            And it is all to do with reducing Germany’s “carbon footprint” and preventing global warming.
            o some 330,000 German households are going without energy to cook with and to keep themselves warm and live in some modicum of comfort so German politicians and greens and climate alarmists can send a virtue signal that they are fighting global warming.

            So do you have any feelings of sympathy for and empathy with those 330,000 German household dwellers who now have no access to energy at a fair and reasonable price?
            Plus the tens of thousands of UK citizens who also live in energy poverty and the tens of thousands of Australian households who are now facing the same situation?

            Second question;
            2 / As you appear to be a classic city centric, selfie elitist global warmer who has never experienced deprivation of any type although you think you have, do you have any idea at all of what it is really like to live in a household where there is no power and no energy except candles and maybe a pressure lantern and where the work is done by animal power with all the consequences of that?

            I do!

            If you don’t understand that first question and haven’t experienced the second question and you can’t understand why people are distraught and suffering because they can’t see that they are helping to Save the Planet by going without cheap and always there energy whilst you continue to enjoy the same energy, then I would suggest you are another global warming classic fit to a “psychopathic personality” profile along with Gore as outlined in my post at #26

            And just by the way, after all that quite involuntary and imposed sacrifice on those 330,000 now energy poor and unable to afford energy German citizens, Germany’s CO2 emissions from energy generation continues to increase by at around 1% per year.

            Depending on your answers to questions one and two you are possibly of a psychopathic personality type and certainly deluded as to Gore and his avaricious, greed driven program of using carbon credits to enrich himself without ever creating anything of value to humanity at all.

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            KinkyKeith

            Well, at least that gets the splatter prize.

            It’s everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

            Great effort.

            Completely incoherent and a bonus reference to animal farm.

            Haven’t education standards dropped!

            KK

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            AndyG55

            What accelerating temperature rise.??

            there has been ZERO CO2 induced warming in the whole of the satellite data period.

            Just the 1998 El Nino step, and the latest El Nino transient.

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            AndyG55

            ” without solid scientific knowledge of their true impacts on earths systems?”

            There is masses of evidence that show that raised atmospheric CO2 is totally and absolutely beneficial to all life on Earth.

            There is NO drawback.

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            PhilJourdan

            Now you are just being juvenile. Grow up and try a post with no infantile insults.

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        toorightmate

        Julian,
        Why are you so verbose?
        The full stop comes after “nothing”.

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        Mark D.

        Al Gore has done nothing but attempt to save humanity from itself,………

        Save itself by freezing to death in a cold flat because one cannot afford the cost of energy? That cost driven up because of the bull-cr*p mis-information that Gore vomits up?

        No sir, it is you and your ilk that history will record as wrong, misanthropic, Malthus-istic, dangerous, and happily; failed. Real science, engineering and truth will prevail.

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        PhilJourdan

        So you waltz in, spout ignorance, and then insults. Does your mother know you are using her computer?

        Seriously, if you can, post something objective with no juvenile ad hominems that can be discussed. or simply run back to SS and continue your infantile behavior.

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    pat

    still singling out Poland, what about the other eight countries that opposed the deal?

    2 Mar: Reuters: Poland challenges EU deal on carbon market reform
    Reporting by Agnieszka Barteczko in Warsaw and Alissa de Carbonnel in Brussels; Additional reporting Robert-Jan Bartunek in Brussels.
    Poland does not rule out taking the issue to the European Court of Justice to unravel the legislation, once it is adopted, Environment Ministry spokesman Pawel Mucha told Reuters.
    Poland was among nine countries who opposed a deal backed by 19 EU environment ministers on long-awaited reforms of the Emission Trading System (ETS), which is the EU’s flagship policy to meet greenhouse gas emissions targets…

    But Poland fears the reforms to the so-called cap-and-trade system will prove too heavy a burden for its energy-intensive industrial plants and coal-fired power stations…
    Warsaw is arguing that EU treaties say rules on a country’s choice between different energy sources can only be adopted with the unanimous consent of the bloc’s 28 nations…
    Polish diplomats contested Tuesday’s compromise deal on the grounds that the draft text should have been brought to a vote, insisting the nine member states made up a “blocking minority.”…

    Malta, which holds the EU’s rotating presidency, said there was no need for a formal vote on Tuesday because EU nations were only adopting a common approach to begin negotiations with European Parliament – the last leg in EU
    legislation process.
    “To be clear, the (European) Council has not adopted a formal act on the ETS review. This means that the Council did not proceed to a formal vote. Therefore, there is no basis for claiming that the wrong voting rules were used,” a spokesman for the Maltese presidency said.

    He said a qualified majority of EU countries had backed the compromise text to start the negotiations with the European Parliament…
    A minimum of 16 member states is required to back the compromise deal, representing at least 65 percent of the total EU population.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/eu-carbon-poland-idUSL5N1GF2GP

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    PeterS

    Professional actors, well at least some of them are good at acting and that’s all. Given acting in particular of the Hollywood variety is pure fiction and make believe any comments about reality and truth from them must be completely ignored as they are as useless as comments coming from a rodent if not more so.

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      OriginalSteve

      Its always been my thought that people who specialize in playing dress ups and make believe for a living, arent really well placed to offer hard engineering advice….

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      Graeme No.3

      It also explains why they are so easy to replace with animated drawings.

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      PeterS

      Thanks for the thumbs down you rodent.

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    pat

    more potential fall-out from the Oscar blunder for PwC:

    3 Mar: Bloomberg: Oscars Blunder Adds Risk for PwC Defense at MF Global Trial
    by Bob Van Voris
    PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP’s epic screw-up at the Oscars could carry a high cost if jurors arrive at a malpractice trial next week suspecting the global accounting firm is error-prone…
    That’s particularly worrisome in a case where New York-based PwC is accused of contributing to the 2011 collapse of MF Global, the N.Y. brokerage formerly run by Jon Corzine. MF Global is seeking as much as $3 billion in a trial that will feature Corzine’s testimony about events leading up to the firm’s failure…
    “The MF Global meltdown is entirely unrelated to what happened at the Oscars,” said Leticia Ostler, a jury consultant in San Diego. Yet jurors may ask “what’s to say they’re not making the same mistake in other areas?”…

    MF Global claims PwC negligently signed off on its faulty RTM accounting, which in turn contributed to MF Global’s meltdown.
    “PwC failed in several critically important areas at MF Global, from its accounting treatment of repo purchases to something as basic as its audit of MF Global’s financial statements,” Nader Tavakoli, lead director of MF Global’s bankruptcy plan administrator, said in an email. “This negligence caused MF Global’s demise.”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/oscars-blunder-adds-risk-for-pwc-defense-at-mf-global-trial

    reminder:

    19 Nov: Australian: Cameron Stewart: PwC’s Australian staff worried by US poll offered Trump therapy
    Corporate giant PricewaterhouseCoopers has offered to counsel its staff in Australia who are worried by Donald Trump’s US election win.
    In an extraordinary move, ridiculed by many on social media, PwC implied that Mr Trump held values contrary to the company’s and that all staff should take solace in PwC’s culture of “care” in the wake of the election result.
    In a letter to PwC’s 7000 Australian staff, Australian chief executive Luke Sayers said the company’s values “will be vital” in the wake of the US election…
    Mr Sayer’s letter is unusual, however, given Australia’s distance from the US and the fact most PwC employees are well edu­cated and are unlikely to need emotional counselling over the outcome of a democratic election…
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/pwcs-australian-staff-worried-by-us-poll-offered-trump-therapy/news-story/f7d3db88edbd33a37206be749787dae6

    lol.

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    Dennis

    It has been observed that after a visit to a taxidermist the actor could be mounted on the bow of a yacht as a lasting memorial to the Titanic movie.

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    Bitter&twisted

    DiCraprio is the classic rich, spoilt, thick-as-pigs, eco-tosser whose mantra is “do as I say, not do as I do”.

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      Lionell Griffith

      I suspect he fancies himself as a member of a noble class who’s position is by right of birth and not merit. He is convinced he stands outside of the requirements of behavior he demands of the lowly and ignorant mere mortal masses.

      Further, he believes his massively excess carbon footprint is his by right of putting forth his noble message. A message intended to save the planet from the actions of the aforesaid masses. Said masses are to be constrained from living except for their ability to create the wealth he has in no way earned but avidly consumes without shame or apology.

      As with the nobility of the long dark past, no dirt soils his finger nails, no callus hardens his hands, no sweat dampens his brow, he is lord over all he sees, others have an unchosen obligation to serve his whims, and he alone determines who lives, dies, starves, or thrives.

      Surprise! The world doesn’t work that way any more. In fact, it never did but that fact was covered up by the demise of uncounted millions of human sacrifices to the whims of the noble class. Such a class was eliminated centuries ago. The US was founded on the principle that it could never exist again. Sadly, as in the Poltergeist movie, their back! Time for another major reset in their expectations.

      The really interesting thing is he needs us far more than we need him. All we need to do is ignore him and he will soon fade into nothingness. Actually, there is no there there. His sense of existence is only in the reflections in our eyes. Blink and the reflection is gone. Poof!

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    Kevin Anderson

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/rio-tinto-job-cuts-power-prices-lead-to-jobs-cuts-at-largest-aluminium-smelter-20170119-gtumwu.html

    Rio Tinto job cuts: Power prices lead to jobs cuts at largest aluminium smelter
    Gladstone’s Boyne Island aluminium smelter is set to shed jobs and cut $100 million-worth of production because of soaring Queensland power prices.

    Boyne Smelters Ltd general manager Joe Rea said it was the second time in three years the facility had cut production due to “uncompetitive electricity prices”.

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      Dennis

      The list of manufacturing industry that has closed down and many relocated overseas because of high electricity prices, carbon tax, renewable energy surcharge and the present hidden carbon tax is substantial.

      The socialist agenda is working well.

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    theRealUniverse

    Let the ignorant con the gullible! Anyone seeing these ‘stars’ as knowing anything at all needs a brain transplant.

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    Roy Hogue

    Since idiot is the subject here I can say as I think. And I think it’s wrong to call Decaprio a complete idiot. He’s more than intelligent enough to escape that description. He’s no idiot at all. He has the same kind of face and name recognition that someone like John Wayne had in the past. If you’ve seen Stagecoach (ca 1938 I believe) you’ll remember that first scene in which he appeared, the expression, the stance, rifle in hand, that held the audience transfixed for those few seconds it was on the screen. And that made John Wayne a star where before he had been a grade B actor in westerns where he couldn’t act to save his life. And I have some of those westerns on DVD so I know what he was turning out. He stayed victim of being a star and never had an Oscar until he took on Rooster Cogburn, a role that actually required acting, which he really could do and there was his long elusive Oscar.

    DiCaprio has that same star appeal, face that gets him noticed with a big name that follows and he gets along on that quite well, in fact milks it for all it’s worth. You may say he’s an idiot but unlike John Wayne’s time, now he can be Oscar material on just being a star, no acting involved.

    He speaks from a position of perceived authority (I know not why that happens but it does) and people believe and follow his words. He’s harmful. He’s doing mankind a disservice of monumental proportions. And he’s not the only one by any means.

    I expect that if it had been more fashionable in John Wayne’s time he could have done the same. We owe him much that he didn’t try it. If we could somehow silence DiCaprio it would do everyone a favor, the First Amendment notwithstanding. Some speech is a problem and doesn’t deserve protection.

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    Egor the One

    Public floggings should be reintroduced for the likes of L.DeCrappist and other CAGW pals!

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