In an interview with Ezra Levant on Sun News Canada, Marc Morano (Climate Depot) says: ‘I am jealous of the leadership of Canada & Australia. It is so sad being in America’ – ‘The rest of the world is abandoning carbon pricing as the U.S. is jumping right in’
Marc Morano talks about the nations winding back their carbon schemes and “laughing at us”. “Germany is going to more coal. Spain is abandoning green jobs, Europe is showing a lot of sense in this”.
‘Aussie Prime Minister Abbott is launching an effort to get Canada, UK, New Zealand and India and other center right countries to abandon CO2 pricing. I should have brought some champagne and wine glasses. This is a big deal.’
‘We in the U.S. have it backwards…
Americans are looking with great hope and admiration at Stephen Harper and Tony Abbott.
Maybe the U.S. will join the coalition someday.
The UN is having a one day conference in September in New York City and I would love to see these countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, etc.), join in with Russia and China and oppose CO2 pricing.
Ezra Levant wonders why Obama wants to cut US emissions when the United States “is a carbon leader”. “US emissions are down 11%. What boggles my mind, is the environmentalists should be celebrating…..”
Levant points out that India has also elected Narendra Modi – a conservative free marketeer. Morano replies that even so, India was never going to limit carbon. “In 2008 India would not even consider limiting carbon when 40% of their residents did not have running water or electricity”.
Marc Morano at Climate Depot knows this debate back to front.
Well, Americans should be envious of Canada and Australia when it comes to climate taxes.
But try and find anyone envious of the Brits and what goes for their energy policy and you will have a struggle.
Forests in North America are being chopped down to feed converted British power stations.
Huge and growing sums are being paid out to wind farms not to produce electricity.
Only expensive and unreliable new energy sources of energy supply are allowed.
Factories will be paid to cease operations during peak demand periods in Britain.
One possible new nuclear power station has to be guaranteed double today’s electricity price in real terms.
Perfectly viable gas and coal fired power stations are being closed down to satisfy the green agenda.
The list of lunacies go on and on, and nobody seems to care except the anti-EU party UKIP.
The architect of this idiocy is Ed Milliband, the leader of the Labour Party and likely to be Britain’s Next prime minister.
So Australia, if you are looking for a lot of new British immigrants. You won’t have long to wait, as current energy policies will soon cripple the British economy.
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The lunacy in Britain is now obvious to everybody.
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I’m not so sure it is. I live in Australia and am currently on sabbatical in the UK. I only found out about the Drax power station a couple of weeks ago, possibly because I don’t read the Daily Mail. To those who don’t know the EU has said the power station must convert from coal to wood. This monumental stupidity can be easily found on the internet and if you have not heard of it I recommend a bit of a look. You’ll find that although the Greens are barking mad, they still hold sway at least in the Western World. God may well know why this is so but I certainly don’t. In The Times there is an article discussing the validity of common myths about cancer such as taking anti=oxidants or eating organic veggies which studies have shown to be completely. When oh when will the realisation dawn that global warming/climate change/extreme weather is not caused solely by humans using fossil fuel?
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Ian, the problem is the Left. They want to believe in the global warming mythology whether it is true or not. They can’t stand the fact that energy from fossil fuels makes people powerful and gives them independence. They want everyone to be impoverished serfs dependent on their superiors.
As for those who are not so hell-bent on socialist dictatorship, the Left are using their passive-aggressive tactics to sway them with arguments like “You don’t believe in SCIENCE?” or “You don’t care about the environment?”. Those are the people we can persuade with some facts and reason.
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Hey James,
Sounds like Socialism = Feudalism.
I have long thought that the political use of the term “Progressive” was a synonym for Regressive.
People happily and mindlessly marching towards the past, get overrun by Futures that they can’t imagine.
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You’re the first person I’ve heard say anything negative about antioxidants. Antioxidants are a terrible fraud, right up there with anthropogenic climate change.
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Klem,
Sorry, but to the extent possible, I blew a whistle on that silly anti oxidant fad in the Spring 2006 issue of the Journal “The Skeptic”.
The anti oxidant fraud is another example of the gullibility of your man in the street. Another article in that Journal at another date was about the useless nature of seaweed used for agriculture & horticulture. The man in the street is assailed by advertising and experts on Gardening Shows, who have never dug into the Science. I regard it as a fraud also. Then you get the medical side like homeopathy and acupuncture where there is no supporting science, but a tribe of true believers.
One should not expect 100% success by the public in sussing out crook products, but one has to wonder if our educational systems are teaching analytical thinking well, if at all.
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Second Timothy 3:5 “Having a form of godliness…”
I believe this is it in a nutshell.
But the passage contintues; “,but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
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Greg,
Yeh! way to go. I quoted some bible verses on Facebook regarding God’s sovereignty over the natural world and a pastor friend (may be x’friend) still believes CO2 is the a pollutant.
R-COO- K+
Ron
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Ian,
Not even solely BUT not majorly. In fact minutely.
R-COOK- K+
Ron
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Peter Miller:
Yes the new nuclear plant(s?) have been guaranteed twice the current price for their electricity. But it is still cheaper (just) than the current cost of wind power.
BUt perhaps the powers that be (presumably led by Daft Ed Davey) could see that under the current policies that price would be coming.
And I think you would also agree that the builders of these power stations also saw someone coming.
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Graeme,
You need to be very careful and qualify your statements when you get complex issues like the price of nuclear electricity. It’s so easy to compare apples with oranges for a false result. Back in the 70s when I was active in nuclear (as well as coal and oil) we routinely costed the major power forms. The fundamentals have not changed that much when you take the hard costs, like cost of fuel. However, big difference have emerged in the soft costs, like the arrangements for insurance, site selection, levy for waste management and so on. I call these social costs. For nuclear more than any other, the social costs have been ramped up beyond reality by decades of green activism nibbling on the petticoats of regulators.
Strip out the social costs and nuclear is really the only answer if you want to avoid significant CO2 emissions.
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There’s this strange thing about bending over backwards to ignore the realities. If you can do it well enough, in the end you can sort of see this strange orifice. I do get the feeling that your average American is starting to realise that.
Pointman
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Nice one Pointman !
🙂 🙂 🙂
Cheers,
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Yes, more and more are realizing it but too slowly to avoid a lot of trouble.
If I had a place to which I could escape I’d be tempted right about now.
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Actually, in the US the eco-loons are past the point of seeing an orifice and are actually in danger of suffocating!
Most Americans are like people anywhere else: in the end it gets down to the money. As our people suffer financial hardship they will retaliate in the voting booth. I predict that the pendulum will swing far the other way by the time Dear Leader Obama’s term of office ends. Assuming that he doesn’t seize power!
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Just like Dick Morris and Karl Rove predicted Eddy? Good luck with that.
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People vote their pocketbook, FIN. They always have and they always will.
Obama wants to increase the price of energy to wean the U.S. off of what President Bush referred to as America’s “addiction” to oil. The president is famous for his “you can build a coal burning power plant, but it will bankrupt you” claim. Members of his administration want to see “European” price gas. America runs on cheap energy.Destroy that and you destroy America’s economy.
I guess it makes sense to greens to destroy the U.S. economy to shave 0.02 of a degree off of a warming that isn’t happening. Nothing can replace fossil fuels at this point. When it can, some greedy capitalist in a bizarre attempt to make a profit will bring the new source of energy to the market. Then, the new energy source will replace fossil fuels. Unless of course the greens oppose it then it will probably go the way of the thorium reactor.
I love watching Morano eviscerate any and all contenders in a debate. Then again, every free and fair debate that has ever happened was won by the skeptics. Gavin Schmitt, a pillar of propaganda at the unreal climate site and recently announced heir apparent to James Hansen, noted after his epic fail as a debater in New York (not exactly a city renowned for its conservative base) that his performance was “pretty dull” and “at a sharp disadvantage” against the skeptics. No wonder he is afraid to debate?
Gee wiz, so much for settled science!
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If he doesn’t seize power??? Eddy do you realize how probable that seems right now?
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Many Americans are indeed jealous of the Canadian and Australian leadership. The problem is, we had 69 million people who voted for a glib marxist with a messiah complex in 2008, and 66 million who repeated the mistake in 2012.
We did not have effective opposition candidates in 2008 or 2012. Still, both McCain and Romney would have done much better jobs as president than 0bama.
0bama is so simple-minded he cannot detect BS when he hears it. Such as the global warming mythology or his disastrous 0bamaCare or his foreign policy, that comes unravelling in crisis after crisis on a daily basis.
But we do have some good prospects for the 2016 presidential race, including Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. If the unbearable happens and Hillary Clinton gets elected president in 2016, don’t be surprised if the USA splits up.
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Good points James, interesting that you mention the USA being split up, in your view how would this occur North South, East west, or different sovereignty’s being created?
Also would this be a good thing or merely falling for a planned further breakdown? I only ask as having read about this scenario recently.
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Hi Yonnie. It’s very difficult to predict exactly how the USA will break up. Perhaps some red state vs blue state splitup. And its difficult to imagine how it will play out, because the USA has been united basically since 1865.
Many people have had it with 0bama’s stupid policies and are counting down the days until his term is over on January 20, 2017. But for some reason there are still millions more who are either stupid enough or misinformed enough to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016. If she wins, we will get the same policies as 0bama has given us, plus she is an asinine, corrupt **** and her husband is a [snip – please substantiate insults].
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James I fully agree the USA has gone down a left wing path at increasingly great odds with it’s original constitution and these strong divisions could drive some states to form pro constitutional alliances in order to protect their will to uphold traditional American values.
A systematic breakdown of an impartial education system along with the bought off MSM by the left gives less hope of any positive election results, however people will end up changing votes if their hip pocket is hurt enough but only if they don’t become entirely dependent on government handouts to exist, at that point they’re just another citizen of the state.
Australia managed to change direction and while it’s not perfect it’s a hell of a lot better than what we endured and will in the future thanks to the insane damage legislated by clinton-esque idealists.
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Any attempt to succeed from the union will be violently opposed by the government in DC.
State Succession = Civil War.
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ExWarmist,
That would be “secede”?
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Depends upon your viewpoint. 😉
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Those voting are on the dole and like it, or they are the leftist greens, or they are big business such a Google, Facebook, Apple, GE, and others who have cut deals with the Obama Administration to exempt themselves from taxes, Obama care, EPA regulations, and on and on. The lazy, the loony, and the greedy grabbers (and traitors to America). The lazy and the greedy grabbers want something or an Administration that will sell out to anyone for Democrat campaign funds. The loony, leftists-greens are also pushing their agenda of elites ruling serfs. These people are the Americans who will not “wake up”, but will try to stay on the gravy train with Hillary. We have tough times ahead because the stupid party, the Republicans, are going along with Obama on uncontrolled illegal immigration and amnesty. Why are they doing this since the result will be permanent Democrat control due to 10 to ? millions of new Democrats? Because the Republicans want theirs now and let the devil take tomorrow.
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Never mind them, I could have done a better job than Obama.
When you have a narcissist who believes he’s infallible and surrounds himself with yes-men you get what’s going on now. The first thing anyone with that much authority needs is to surround himself with capable advisors, critical thinkers, then tell them they have your permission to stand up and yell, “BS, when it’s BS. I read that in a book on leadership way back in the ’70s and I’ve seen what happens when the boss doesn’t get told it’s BS all too many times since then, both in business and politics.
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A dead gopher could do a better job than Obama.
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No, no, no! It would stink up the White House. How about a fence post?
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It is my understanding that the only state that can pack up and leave easily is Texas as they have a clause in the joining of the union that say’s they can. Texas is now the capitol of petroleum refining, electricity export, aeronautical construction and high tech space stuff. Houston we have a problem, Texas could hold half of America to ransom. Carbon taxes or control from Washington, would cause a stir, that may become a brush fire that burns all the way to Washington.
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After prosperity comes complacency. Is it true that Texas is attracting a lot of Democrats? Could be a short lived thing if California is anything to go by, it’s like trying to control a cancer.
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Unfortunately, the liberal media want their darling Liberal Trudeau in power next election, and they are piling on the BS against the conservatives, while ignoring every mistake Trudeau makes…typical though, so I fear the worst if he gets in power, he will put in a Carbon tax so they can ‘play’ with the money for their faithful.
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If you would like to observe the left piling on the BS mindlessly and in heaps look towards Australia right now.
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We Americans are jealous of any country with a true leader, or hell, any other leader that is not nuts.
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It’s not all rosey in Canada. Energy is actually a provincial responsibility. The Prime Minister can avoid imposing any national tax, but premiers can enact ruinous policies on their own. In my province of Ontario we have a Feed in Tarrif for wind and solar. The early stages of this have resulted in over 500,000 lost manufacturing jobs, and a resultant drop in demand. The province has closed all 8 coal plants, not due to availability of wind obviously, but because of the legal obligation to purchase expensive wind and solar which has increased energy costs and closed factories by the hundreds. We now produce wind and solar and buy it whether we need it or not, usually not, and sell it to the US at market electricity costs of $0.06/kwhr, versus the $0.20 or more we pay the producers. One of the reasons we have lost jobs is because we now have much more expensive power than most of the United States. Ontario actually shuts down the greatest natural source of power in the world, Niagara Falls, which is practically free energy because we are forced to buy the crap renewables, and don’t need the additional power.
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It’s a tragedy what has happened to Ontario, but you people are all set to re-elect the same greenie bozos who did all the damage in the first place. The election is today.
I’ll pray for a Tory win.
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This is nuts! What the hell is wrong there, did the greens put something in the water? Are your provincial “Leaders” on drugs? Buying power and shutting down Niagara falls is the dumbest thing I ever heard!
Toss’em all out.
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“Ontario actually shuts down the greatest natural source of power in the world, Niagara Falls …”
And a fine job they are doing:
4 March 2014
Niagara Falls comes to a halt AGAIN: Millions of gallons of cascading water is frozen in bitter temperatures
☺ ☺ ☃
In further related Global Warming news …
June 12, 2014
USA NOAA First 5 Months (Jan-May) Were Only Ranked 56 out of 120
Great Lakes region, parts of Deep South experiences top 10 coldest overall January to May period on record
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Well, why limit it to, ‘only’ Americans – we here in Sweden are also very jealous of Abbott & Harper… Go figure! 😉
Brgds from Sweden
//TJ
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When you got the dog, you are envious of all higher life forms.
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Phil,
We got less than a dog. What can you call a man who makes a state visit to the Queen of England and gives her the gift of a set of his speeches? Even a dog doesn’t go around insulting everyone he meets.
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I apologize to all Dogs (who are actually a much higher life form) as you are of course correct. Dogs are loyal. Mosquitoes however…
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More positive news on the deconstruction of the CAGW sham, I also feel a little bit prouder about Australia today and cracked a smile to see our PM lauded on the international stage.
Ok I know not to get our hopes too high and maintain a healthy skepticism but for a while I’ll enjoy this.
I like the idea of a counter CAGW coalition developing especially if it can attract more global heavy hitters, India would be a good start.
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Breaking news is that President Obama has acknowleged that Prime Minister Abbott has a mandate to scrap the carbon tax. The lefties will be horrified, especially the MSM that seemed to suggest that naughty schoolboy Abbott would be carpeted by headmaster Obama.
Where did professional pride disappear to in the field of journalism?
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With his approval sinking faster than the Titanic and mired in so many scandals I can’t keep up with them all, Obama has a mandate to scrap his EPA emissions regulations too. And if he doesn’t, his own party may turn on him. This county’s entire economy is dependent on energy in one way or another. The eventual backlash — or collapse — will get very ugly. But he’ll try to bull it through. He’s never flinched once that I can remember.
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Canada and the United States of America are only two of the countries in the two continents of “America”. The inhabitants of one call themselves “Canadian”, and the others “American”, often calling their country “America”. Strange!
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The continent is called, “North America”, it is only lazy North Americans, or those with a post-normal education, who drop the first word.
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No, it has nothing to do with being part of North America. It has everything to do with the official name of the country.
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The official title of the country is “United States of America”. It is the only country in the Americas that has the continent name in its country name. And thus instead of always writing “United States of Americans”, it is shortened to “Americans”.
Just as “Australia” is really “Commonwealth of Australia”, I do not see them calling themselves “Commonwealth of Australians” which would be their official name.
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abc was still pushing the meme – with only a US Guest – that CC would be sticking point in Abbott/Obama meeting this morning, when it was already widely known thaat it wasn’t!
13 June: ABC Breakfast: Are Canberra and Washington at odds over climate policy?
Guest: Heather Zichal
Former Deputy Assistant to President Obama for Energy and Climate Change, 2009-2013
After getting the red carpet treatment in Canada, Prime Minister Tony Abbott is now in Washington, where he’s preparing to meet with US President, Barack Obama.
The President is determined to use his last years in office to deliver a climate change legacy, including helping to seal a new global climate treaty next year in Paris.
Climate policy will not be the only item on the agenda when the two leaders talk in Washington, but it’s likely to be a key sticking point.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/abbott-heads-to-washington-for-meeting-with-obama/5520704
Jonathan Green is toxic. reduce his emissions to zero!
13 June: ABC AM: James Glenday: Tony Abbott and Barack Obama agree to new defence force posture, note different climate change approaches
***Perhaps tellingly, the topic (of CAGW) was not raised in front of the cameras…
LINK: Tony Abbott’s language on his overseas tour betrays a complete lack of connection between what climate change is and what it might do, writes Jonathan Green.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-13/tony-abbott-and-barack-obama-agree-to-new-defence-posture/5520370
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As opposed to Jonathan Green, whose language betrays a complete lack of connection between his cerebral cortex, and his mouth, or pen for that matter.
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“The President is determined to use his last years in office to deliver a climate change legacy, including helping to seal a new global climate treaty next year in Paris.”
I read that as he is determined to do what ever it takes, kill the American dream and destroy the economy before he leaves office, to get a position in UNEP Politburo or UNEP central committee?
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12 June: ABC: Greg Bourne: As Obama seeks to build, Abbott seeks to destroy
(Greg Bourne is chair of the Australian Renewable Energy Agency, and a former chief executive of WWF Australia and a former executive at BP Australia)
AS INTERNATIONAL MEETINGS GO, sitting down opposite the US President in the Oval Office is possibly the most important for any Australian Prime Minister. And this importance is only intensified by our position as the host of the G20 in Brisbane this November…
Yet Prime Minister Tony Abbott seems to believe that just as he has sought to shut down any serious consideration of effective climate policy in Australia, he can do the same with his international counterparts as well.
But he can’t. Certainly not when Barack Obama has spent much of previous month laying the groundwork for his major announcement last week on cleaning up the US coal industry and in doing so cleaning the nation’s air, reducing the risks of climate change and helping develop the new low carbon industries and renewable energy sources that the world so desperately needs.
The Prime Minister would do well to listen to the leader of the world’s largest economy…
The President has given people something they can believe in: clean air, greater security and cheaper energy…
Having spent more than 30 years working for BP, I know that the high polluting, high emissions industries that dominate the current energy sector are powerful. But the arguments for the approach adopted by ARENA to promote these new, vital technologies and industries are strong, and the evidence of our success revealed by tangible projects that are delivering results…
http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2014/06/12/4023951.htm
apart from this comment by WHAT:
“Abbott is an ego driven, dangerous, ideological fool. This is the mad monk, Tony Dumb Dumb in full flight. We need to do more than just make fun of this embarrassing buffoon, we need to throw him out along with the other clowns, never to return. We need a vote of no confidence and have a double dissolution and get rid of this mad man,now!”
the majority of the other ten comments aren’t buying Greg’s self-interested argument.
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Meanwhile over on the other side of the playground ……… sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never harm me.
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(3 pages) 16 June: Weekly Standard: Steven F. Hayward: Climate Cultists
Has the desperate global warming crusade reached its Waterloo?
The climate change crusaders, who have been at it for a quarter-century, appear to be going clinically mad…
While climate skeptics are denounced for mentioning “uncertainty,” the terms “uncertain” and “uncertainty” appear 173 times, while “error” and “errors” appear 192 times, in the 218-page chapter on climate models in the latest IPCC report released last September. As the IPCC admits, “there remain significant errors in the model simulation of clouds. It is very likely that these errors contribute significantly to the uncertainties in estimates of cloud feedbacks and consequently in the climate change projections.” The IPCC’s latest report rates the confidence of our understanding of clouds and aerosols as “low,” and allows that it is possible that clouds could cancel out most of the warming effect of greenhouse gases. If anything, our uncertainty about future climate change has increased with each new IPCC report…
The cruel irony for the climateers is that the more they hype the apocalypse of future climate change, the more farcically inadequate are their proposed remedies. Global primary energy demand is going to double over the next generation, and there is no one who thinks hydrocarbons—especially coal—aren’t going to play a large role in providing this energy, especially in developing nations…
Absent an unusual level of political resolve from Congress, the climate campaign may yet succeed in hobbling the electric power sector in America. That would be a high price to pay for indulging a fanatical movement that in every other respect must be reckoned a pernicious failure.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/climate-cultists_794401.html
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Oh dear, it would seem that despite President Obama’s new EPA regulations to dramatically cut back on coal fired power generation, the Real World situation in the U.S. is that coal fired power generation is not only increasing, but in fact powering ahead, if you’ll pardon the pun.
I want you to look at the data at this link. Net Generation by Energy Source
Scroll down almost to the bottom of the table until you see the heading Year to Date.
This shows the power generation by source from all sources, and the left column indicates coal fired power generation.
Note the total for 2012, and then compare that with the total for 2013, (a rise of 12.8%) and for 2014. (a further rise on 2013 of 11.6%)
Under that is the heading Rolling 12 Months ending in March, and see also that 12 Month overall increase, which comes in at 4.8% after an increase of 4.8% for the previous year.
Now, while that 4.8% seems a relatively small figure, the actual increase in TWH consumed over the year of 73TWH, and for some perspective on that, it is one third of the total generation from every source here in Australia. That’s the total for this year, when the previous year also increased by that same amount ….. just from coal fired power alone.
What needs to be taken into account here is that during the last two years especially, coal fired power plants have been closing regularly, mostly small plants and ancient at that, most of those 50 years or older, but the total Nameplate has fallen considerably.
So, in actuality, more power is being generated from less plants.
Total power consumption is also increasing despite the call for, umm, energy efficiencies, and that total is at the far right of this Table.
As to increasing CO2 emissions from that coal fired power sector, look at this Table. Coal: Consumption for Electricity Generation
This shows coal consumption, and again, scroll down to near the bottom and compare the totals, shown here in thousand tons.
The increase in CO2 emissions from the coal fired sector alone in the LAST TWO YEARS comes in at, wait for it ….. 157 MILLION tons. That’s just the increase in two years.
It makes the President’s edict to lower emissions by 30% by 2030 so much more difficult, as now those emissions are almost back at the start point of 2005.
It’s nice to make the warm and fuzzy statements, but problematic in the real World.
Tony.
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This is, I believe, Obama’s King Canute Moment™:
The difference is that Canute knew that he couldn’t hold back the tide.
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Peter Hannam already ran with this nonsense, but without ***below:
12 June: ABC: Karen Palenzuela: Climate change set to triple drought, bushfires and floods in Australia
CLIMATE CHANGE IS LIKELY to almost triple the frequency of bushfires, floods and drought in Australia from one event every 17 years to one every 6 years, according to a paper published today in Nature…
Dr (Wenju) Cai (CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research), who led the research,) said the research, which was funded by the Australian Climate Change Science Program and the Goyder Institute in South Australia, has also raised a deeper line of inquiry around the Indian Ocean Dipole…
***Yesterday the CSIRO announced that more than 30 jobs will be cut from their Marine and Atmospheric Research division, including eight in their Aspendale laboratory where Dr Cai is based.
http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2014/06/12/4023302.htm
LOL.
last nite, ABC’s Tony Delroy’s Issue of the Day was CAGW/Abbott/Obama with callers wanting more wind turbines & solar & electric cars being made here becaue there’s a huge market for them, China is acting, etc etc. Delroy finished up with how it’s essential CAGW is on the G20 agenda & said he’d be covering this issue again.
i just scanned through the 1am-2am podcast from Delroy’s site & it’s basically the same issue but, as i know what the last few callers said plus Delroy’s final words, this could not be this morning’s program.
therefore, i’m presuming the topic was basically the same (with the addition of gun control in the US) the night before last!
http://www.abc.net.au/nightlife/
on the one i listened to briefly:
Delroy: looming issues for the PM with Obama on CAGW; Pacific Islands/Bangladesh sea rises;
Caller: CAGW refugees, already happening/Rudd was right;
Delroy: Obama said there’ll be less asthma, heart attacks – using personal to sell the idea to the people.
Caller: climate is heating up, WE could take it (by “we” I mean Labor) to the election, not on intellectual or scientific basis like last time, but personalise it like Obama.
Delroy: very personal in China now, pollution in cities.
easy to sell it to the public there.
Caller: if Abbott is only leader in the world who believes he is right on CAGW, he’s not well & he’s not seeing reality, & he’s trying to destroy what Labor has achieved. CC action creates jobs.
and so it goes on taxpayer-funded ABC!
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13 June: ABC: Pacific presidents speak out against Australia’s stand on climate change
Pacific leaders have criticised Australia’s moves to form a conservative international climate change alliance, saying it will only isolate Australia further in the Pacific.
The comments from the presidents of Kiribati and Marshall Islands came as Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott met US President Barrack Obama for formal talks in Washington…
***Mr Obama raised US concerns about energy efficiency and climate change with Mr Abbott, and argued for them to be on the G20 summit agenda when leaders meet in Australia later this year…
Australia further isolated in Pacific
Mr Tong also says the Abbott-Harper strategy throws previous regional agreements to which Australia was a signatory into doubt.
He says Australia’s stand is also likely to get “some, if not a lot” of attention at next month’s Pacific Island Forum leaders’ meeting in Palau…
“I think it’s a very humane gesture on the part of Obama to make sweeping announcements about his intentions to halt climate change emissions,” (President of Marshall Islands, Christopher)Loeak said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-13/pacific-presidents/5521478
***i just knew ABC would spin “energy efficiency” on the G20 Agenda to suggest Obama got CAGW on the Agenda. “energy efficiency” has always been on the Agenda, ABC:
22 May: Lowy Institute: Infrastructure, tax, energy
This issue of the Monitor focuses on the role of the G20 in infrastructure, tax and energy governance…
The G20 has a number of energy issues on its work program, including energy efficiency, yet it has not adequately addressed the prior need for a revision of the global energy governance framework itself. The G20 should push for an elevation of the International Energy Agency into a truly global forum that brings together all the major energy producers and consumers on equal basis…
http://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/infrastructure-tax-energy
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Abbott’s cunningly diplomatic gift to the Big Kahuna
❝ Obama will nervously accept the board, not sure of the most stylish way to tuck it under his arm, and crack a joke about rising sea levels one day making it possible to surf out the front of the White House. ❞
. . .
If indeed Abbott was sending such a message, credit payed where credit is due.
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Sorry for going O/T again but this article is so good it is well worth reading:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10881213/The-coming-digital-anarchy.html
If you thought Bitcoin was just a fleeting internet thought bubble, think again. The technology behind it (blockchain) will become the platform for all kinds of decentralised services. In essence you wouldn’t need banks, stock exchanges, voting booths, just to name a few. Those with the centralised power (major banks, politicians, other big corporations) will hate it as it potentially removes their power and also the corruption that is enabled through such power.
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Incredibly informative this article is, very thought provoking also, thanks.
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The next big Carrington style event and or war between superpowers should give bitcoin a few tests to see how it stacks up against the possession of real gold.
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In a war between superpowers, it is much easier to run away, if you are not trying to carry a couple of bars of gold.
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Rereke. Bitcoin may have a problem running from net censorship, ICBMs and the resulting Electro Magnetic Pulses.
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Silligy, could you please explain? What do you mean by “Carrington style event”?
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He means a direct hit by a large coronal mass ejection which is something that we haven’t experienced for a long time. Such an event is likely to fry a lot of electric and electronic infrastructure, especially at high latitudes.
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Bulldust, that was a great article; mind-blowing.
I recommend everyone read it.
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Yep. Read it.
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So much of the climate kerfuffle is about shifting the balance toward Big Oil away from its biggest competitor, namely coal. (Come on, this is hardly about solar panels and whirlygigs.) How is it that we can observe the present world situation and not see huge advantages in shifting energy dependence back toward our own massive and high quality coal resources? Did we learn nothing from the ’70s except disco?
I hope this is in the back of Abbott’s mind. Or even in the middle moving toward the front.
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