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Monckton Evans Nova — speaking Monday night in Perth

See the Monckton Tour page for details. 5.45pm  Wilsmore Lecture Theatre. UWA Chemistry Dept.  $25.

Ph 043 542 3636 to Book. (I hear tickets are almost all gone).

Then we’re all travelling to Newcastle and Sydney this week. Book now!

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    a.n. ditchfield

    Dear Monckton,
    Instead of acting defensively, it would be wiser to say that when a scientist enters politics, his opinion as a citizen is as good as that of any citizen, including your own. This places you on unassailable ground against those who invoke the higher authority of a scientist over a layman.
    There are complex phenomena subject to uncertainty in observation, measurement and interpretation. These include weather forecasts beyond a horizon of one week, the behavior of markets and stock exchange quotations, long term economic predictions, demographics, ocean currents and climate change. They are known as chaotic phenomena, in a mathematical sense. In this setting, hypotheses are formulated to identify relationships of cause and effect, with their supporters and adversaries engaged in academic debate.
    If a hypothesis is hijacked by a commercial interest, for its benefit, the debate slides from the academic plane to the plane of politics. In this case the degree of uncertainty of long term forecasts is such that no responsible public policy may be based on them, with a claim of scientific certainty and respectability. To do so is fraudulent. The debate must then be treated as a political confrontation of opposing interests. “In the alley, after school, there just ain’t no Golden Rule”; not even the rules of the Marquis of Queensbury apply in a conflict of vested interests.
    Such is the gist of the thought of an eminent scientist, Prof. Hendrik Tennekes, stated in mathematical terms two decades ago, as director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute: “there exists no sound theoretical framework for climate predictability studies” used for global warming forecasts. Tennekes shows that funds are wasted when invested in more weather stations, more powerful computers, sophisticated models, in expectation of improving weather forecasts beyond one week. Uncertainty will not diminish.
    Uncertainty is your ally and will always remain so.

    A.N. Ditchfield


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    Bulldust

    I’ll be there… will be fun talking to the (un)SkepticalScience sockpuppets out the front of the theatre… they are guaranteed to be there. Always good sport that.


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    AndyG55

    Can someone tell me if tickets are available at the door for the Newcastle talk?

    Thanks.


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    pat

    “modelling” which your Perth audience might agree with –

    4 July: Perth Now: Anna Caldwell: Jobs to be lost as Greens take control
    THE Greens’ push to shut down the coal industry could severely undermine the nation’s economy and sacrifice 200,000 jobs, new economic modelling warns.
    As the party takes to Federal Parliament today with unprecedented numbers and wielding the balance of power in the Senate, fresh research finds that leader Bob Brown’s policy to phase out coal mining would slash GDP by up to $36 billion a year.
    This equates to a $6 billion dent in the national budget.
    The damning report by economists from the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, commissioned by the Minerals Council, said Greens economic policies had “generally” managed to avoid close scrutiny…
    The RMIT report estimates that for each job lost in the coal- mining industry, 6.5 jobs would be lost in the economy as a whole…
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/push-to-can-coal-puts-200000-jobs-at-risk/story-fn7kjv7y-1226086766373


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    Jack

    On of the most interesting things about this carbon (CO2) tax is that it only lasts three years, and then morphs into cap and trade, as I understand it. Can you imagine, a government freely giving up on a tax? This tells me two things. One, cap and trade is so vile, even many so-called Greens know it will do nothing and demand a tax. So here is a sop for them to pass it. Two, and bigger, the financial interests to profit from cap and trade own your so called Left wing political circles. These could be the banks and traders like in Europe laying in wait in North America. These could also be foreign governments that profit of selling carbon offsets. No. 1 is China. Maybe China owns the Aussie gubmint?


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    gnome

    Pat- those figures seem to grossly underestimate the coal industy’s size- In 2008/9 Australia’s coal exports alone were $55 billion. Add brown coal and black coal used domestically and it comes to a lot more than just $36 billion and 200,000 jobs. It amounts to a total underpinning of all Australia’s industry and prosperity, including the social security payments for Green voters.

    Am I misguided here? Does anyone know why the figures would be so discrepant?


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    theRealUniverse

    Just listened to Prof Tim Ball. Measurements of ground based temp records (meaning from 19th cent onwards) of High altitude areas = 0, Arctic regions = 0, Oceans = 0 and so on. Urban heat islands o allot.


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    Bruce of Newcastle

    AndyG55 at #4

    I just booked on Ticketek website – it gives you an option to pick up at the venue door.


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    Regarding Newcastle…
    There is a contact number on my page (click the booking link) and ask the person there. Cheers!

    Jo


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    MattB

    Jo I hope you are taking BoM to see progress on the Perth Arena. I gather Len Buckerige is refusing to pay penalties as the design is a disaster… based on the Eternity Puzzle.


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    pat

    gnome -

    it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if the figures are conservative.


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    gnome

    Pat-
    perhaps the economic modellers are as incapable of gross error checks as the climate modellers are. The Gnomes of Zurich are the economic expert gnomes- a shame I don’t have any contacts there.


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    fred nerk

    I wish I was going to one,however Ulladulla is a bit out of the way. All the best to all the Non Believers in the AGW religious sect and the tax on life.


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    Bulldust

    It seems Joooolya has gone completely off the reservation now:

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/no-tax-on-fuel-but-greens-win-productivity-commission-inquiry/story-fn59niix-1226087140792

    Quotes:

    Ms Gillard warned of threats to infrastructure, failures of urban drainage and sewerage systems, blackouts, transport disruption and private property damage as temperature rose by between 2.2 and 5 degrees by 2070.

    “Now this is a huge change,” said Ms Gillard, as she again accused Mr Abbott of mounting a scare campaign over prices under a carbon tax.

    “It means that global warming will see seas rise by possibly up to a metre by the end of the century – that’s a huge risk to many parts of our country.”

    Hang on… who was using scare tactics again? Using baseless computer-generated non-science? The debate is clearly going to be feral in the lead up to the policy release.


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    Raven

    Jinx …Bulldust …. :)
    I just posted same next door….
    Question is any one having problems ( computer ) on the blog ?


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    pat

    i can’t believe a friend just sent me the following GetUp anti-Harvey Norman video, saying it’s been censored by the media!
    note it’s been put up on 1st July, probably to counter criticism over getting Monckton banned by the Broncos. u only have to watch it to see no media in the world would be airing this crap:

    No Harvey No – MFC & GetUp!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZSRLbRQVHk&feature=youtu.be


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    Another Ian

    Another one that they’ll try to sin-bin with Monckton!

    “Crazy weather not climate change – Professor Neville Nicholls By Mike Hedge From: AAP July 04, 2011 5:01PM Increase Text SizeDecrease Text SizePrintEmail Share
    Add to DiggAdd to del.icio.usAdd to FacebookAdd to KwoffAdd to MyspaceAdd to NewsvineWhat are these?THE remarkable weather extremes of the past decade, including this year’s Queensland and Victorian floods, were not caused by global warming, according to one of Australia’s most eminent climate scientists.
    Speaking at a major international earth science conference in Melbourne, Professor Neville Nicholls said such extremes as the heat wave in Victoria that accompanied the Black Saturday bushfires, similar heat in Pakistan and Russia, and the devastating tornados that have ripped through parts of the US this year are, in many cases, unprecedented in modern times.

    But global warming couldn’t be blamed, he said.

    “Whenever these things happen people ask ‘was it caused by global warming?’,” Prof Nicholls ”

    From

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/breaking-news/crazy-weather-not-climate-change-professor-neville-nicholls/story-e6freonf-1226087343968


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    theRealUniverse

    I cant find whats up with the cancelled Broncos club meeting?
    Thats probably because Im just a dumb skeptic!


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    Siliggy

    pat:
    July 4th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    “i can’t believe a friend just sent me the following GetUp anti-Harvey Norman video,…”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZSRLbRQVHk

    That video has a comment section. Stir them up a bit. I did.


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    theRealUniverse

    If it hasnt been posted..
    Monkton’s acedemic haters here full list of them.
    http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/2011/07/finnish-cinema-and-climate-change.html


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    Siliggy

    Raven:
    July 4th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    Question is any one having problems ( computer ) on the blog ?

    All the text is bold for me.


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    Raven

    Hi Jo
    For the 19 th in Melbourne is it only lord Monckton speaking , I didn’t see a notation , or will you be there as well ?
    >>>>>>>
    @21yes siliggy everything on this thread only is bold .
    I’ve had trouble marking posts I like , yet sometimes when I tick them I get multiples & other times they don’t register or stay registered , I’m using an I pad so I’m not too sure it could just be me .


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    Another Ian:
    July 4th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    “Another one that they’ll try to sin-bin with Monckton!”

    No, Nicholls is firmly in the warmist camp. Read the article again. He claims the events are more severe due to global warming. He’s been on the AGW gravy train for the last decade or so.


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    Another Ian

    23Mike Borgelt:
    July 4th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Mike, point taken – how about this one?

    http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/hiding-the-sea-level-decline/


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    Another Ian

    Siliggy:
    July 4th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    All the text is bold for me.

    I’m no expert but I’ve seen this elsewhere and I seem to remember it has to do with an incorrect bold statement (closer?) around where this starts.

    Vague memory though so might not be – wouldn’t swear to it on a stack of Phantom comics.


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    Raven

    Mike@23 sounds like he was having an each way bet though , maybe he’s hedging his bets incase the tide turns?
    He may be growing a spine . :)


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    John Brookes

    This Monday? I just missed it!


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    memoryvault

    John Brookes @ 27

    This decade? You just missed it.


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    Siliggy

    memoryvault:
    July 4th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
    John Brookes @ 27

    This decade? You just missed it.

    The planet cooled down while you were asleep.


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    memoryvault

    Sliggy @ 29

    Yeah, but it’s alright.
    Any minute now John Brookes, or Blimey, or MattB are gonna give us their “Plan B” to make everything better, and then it will be hunky dory.


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    memoryvault

    test one


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    fred nerk

    http://www.getup.org.au/noharveynormanno?t=dXNlcmlkPTk5MDUwMixlbWFpbGlkPTE3OQ==I Joined the idiot getup thing to send them links to the truth about climate change but it seems to be a waste of time anyway you will find the Harvey Norman thing here -http://www.getup.org.au/noharveynormanno?t=dXNlcmlkPTk5MDUwMixlbWFpbGlkPTE3OQ==


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    a.n. ditchfield

    DENIAL OF FOOD TO THE NEEDY
    a.n.ditchfield
    alanneil@montana.ind.br
    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at what is written about the sacrifice of the Amazon rain forest to the greed and improvidence of Brazilians who slash and burn the lung of the planet.
    My view of man-on-the-spot differs from the politically correct view. Those who believe the Amazon rain forest is being cut down to give way to grain plantations may not know on which continent the Amazon river flows, but they certainly know nothing about the grain business. Soil and climate of the rain forest are unsuitable for farming, and will remain so: a green desert with scant population I don’t know of anyone who tried growing grain in such an unsuitable setting. Grain is grown on the dry savannahs of the Central Brazilian Plateau, far south of the rain forest.
    One fact that contradicts the notion that the world has no more land to feed more mouths is that the arable land in Brazil is equivalent to that of America and Russia combined. Another fact is that the surge in Brazilian annual grain output, from 50 million tons to 200 million tons over 30 years came from ingenious biotechnological research and mechanized farming. Occupied farming area rose from 20% to 23% of the available land over a period that saw a fourfold increase in output. Brazilian harvest yields are now better than those of the Corn Belt. It is further known that the forested area on Brazilian farms expanded considerably above the levels of 30 years ago.
    It is wrong to assume that potentially arable land in Brazil is too remote to be brought into cultivation. The great tributaries on the southern side of the Amazon are being pressed into duty as waterways. There is already intense barge traffic on the Madeira River to a deep water port on the Amazon, far inland, which can service giant bulk carrier ships. Additionally, the Tapajos River can be made navigable year round with modest investment in a dam and a lock. The significance of this is equivalent to that of the Erie Canal that linked Chicago to New York and opened the Midwest to farming in the 19th century. As an engineer, I have supported this project.
    The problem of farming in Brazil is a sparse population not Malthusian over-crowding. At the Montana Group of industries (see: http://www.montana.ind.br/) I am now personally engaged in engineering design to improve the productivity of farm operations; greater output with fewer hands.
    • Automatic pilot for farm machines; this will enable a single equipment operator to manage a fleet of machines, instead of being limited to driving one machine.
    • Design of aluminium booms for sprayer equipment. They are currently made of steel, and their weight poses limits on boom length. With greater length afforded by lightweight booms a leap in the productivity of spraying operations is to be gained.
    • A geodesic design of an airtight bulk storage facility for grain, far more efficient under tropical conditions of temperature and humidity than conventional silos now in use.
    These are my contributions to the improvement of the lot of hundreds of millions of hungry human beings in India and China with innovations more practical than suicidal policies, a one child per couple policy in China and sterilization in India fostered and abetted by European activists. Their misguided action is the main plague that afflicts mankind, not the splendid performance of the economies of India and China. I wish these countries well, and assure their people that they can count on abundant and cheap food supplies in the foreseeable future.


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    Speedy

    Jo

    The Carbon Tax should definitely be called the Seinfeld Tax – it’s a tax all about nothing.

    Cheers,

    Speedy


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    Blimey

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110629204702.htm

    Worldwide, 2010 was one of the two warmest years on record, according to the 2010 State of the Climate report, which NOAA has just released. The peer-reviewed report, issued in coordination with the American Meteorological Society, was compiled by 368 scientists from 45 countries.

    368 scientists or three people carrying on repeatedly making the same mistakes over and over and over again?

    I’ll stick with peer-reviewed science rather than a Monckton fairytale.


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    Blimey is attacking an announced speaking engagement by 3 people he did not hear.

    A little biased are ya?

    LOL


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    Australian Green Party Leader admits Global Warming is Really all about World Government:

    http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=22784

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    Another Ian

    “Siliggy:
    July 4th, 2011 at 9:44 pm memoryvault:
    July 4th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
    John Brookes @ 27

    This decade? You just missed it.
    The planet cooled down while you were asleep.”

    What – Rip van Brookes?


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    Bulldust

    Another wonderful set of talks, shame about the crazed hecklers. No, they weren’t CAGW types who were strangely absent last night … perhaps a Monckton boycott?


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    coldix

    Well done last night, shame the media were not game enought to come and listen.
    I put this on Gillards Facebook page last night
    Are you insane or brain washed?
    *Coal your think CO2 is pollution
    *Nuclear too scary
    *Hydro dry river beds are more important than lakes, irrigation, flood mitigation, fish, water supply and regulated flows.
    *The 2 you like don’t work, if we have severe climate change which we will it will involve times where is it too windy and too still for the wind farms to work and too cold and cloudy for the solar to work, even given that they cost 10 times more they don’t provide base load power.
    *Geothermal Flannery just wasted 90million of our funds on a failed venture.
    Give all that our CARBON TAX will not make any measurable difference, LUNACY.
    * http://joannenova.com.au/ is more reliable than the IPCC, or Greenpeace.


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    theRealUniverse

    Blimey thats 368 criminals you idiot get a life and read all the evidence. Grow up and see whats happening you brainwashed fool.


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    Anne-Kit

    Blimey @ #37: Is that your own blog, Blimey? Whether it is or not, it’s pretty pathetic! It claims to refute the science of Jo Nova but in effect is nothing but “No, it isn’t!” with accompanying foot stamping.

    Oh, and I see there is exactly 1 (one) comment on the whole blog. Pretty impressive readership, Blimey :-)

    A blog devoted entirely to debunking Jo Nova’s science … Haven’t you got anything constructive to contribute to the world, Blimey?


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    Eddy Aruda

    @ Blimey

    The fact that you would disparage the “scientists” who presented the pro CAGW propaganda piece you block quoted shows what a fool you are. Care to explain why there is a difference between GISS data and the satellite and weather balloon data?

    The next time you are “servicing” your global warming masters and you come up for a gulp of air maybe you can ask them to debate Monckton, Nova, Milloy and Morano. If the science is so “settled” your debate squad should be able to demonstrate to all and sundry that it is so and that it is time to take action!

    Actually, the only action likely to occur would be trials for crimes against humanity. I would love to see Gore, Mann and Jones, et al, in the docket!

    BTW, do they reimburse you for your knee pads or do you have to pay for them? Hopefully, they are tax deductible! Remember, Blimey, to practice safe “servicing”!

    Awaiting your dimwitted response!


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    Joe V

    Fred nerd @#33.
    Yes that Get up thing us just a well funded waste of space. Something to keep the kids amused.
    They’re apparently ‘merging’ suggestions , stealing comments & suposedly votes as well, from one thread and adding them to others, to support their favoured causes.

    Behaviour more normally associated with banana republics.


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    Vincent UK

    It would be great if a LORD MONCKTON TOUR
    would come to the UK, along with leading scientists such as Dr David Evans and Jo Nova. With no one here to aspire to in the UK we could do with some inspiration right now.


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    rjm385

    Hi Guys, have you seen this from the Neo-nazis at the UN. Do we need any further proof that the agenda is set.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/democrat-senator-climate-change-causes-u

    Seriously, do these people think they can get away with this.

    And the AAAS wants us to stop threating climate scientists

    http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2011/0629board_statement.shtml

    My opinion is why the hell should we.. The totalitarian malthuesian socialistic nazis need to be suppressed and they need it now.

    What would be a brave and heroic stand would be to lead Australia away from this kind of thinking and dump the UN IPCC and any other organisation that wants or agrees with this behaviour. Stand up to our soveriegn right of self determination without the influence of corrupting enterprises.

    How can any Australian stand for such ideologies. The warmists are going to be affected by this too and although they may, at the moment, think we are loonie for not believeing them. They are still our brother’s and sisters and we owe them and to fight for what we believe is the biggest breach in trust in the history of this country.

    It’s time people, let’s fight tenaciously to oppose this with all our will. We need to make the Politicians of this country realise we can’t be bought. We want decisions which provide prosperity and good will towards all Australians. This fiasco from the IPCC and UN is meant to divide us and so far it has. The UN haven’t fired a shot and we have capitulated in an effort to be viewed as a progressive Nation. The Greens believe in a world government, they believe that capitulation is necessary.

    The Labor party has lost their ideology about looking after the working man, the Tree of Knowledge at Barcaldine in Queensland must looking very withered and almost dead. It will be a long time before the Labor party will be trusted in this country again !

    The Liberal party are uncapable of leading us out of this dilemma because they believe this tripe as well.

    The Independents aren’t really as free thinking we thought. Many of promises they made have been broken for the want of a political agreement and they lack political bacbones to effect any serious debate.

    We have been sold out, our Politicians have betrayed us all. The Governor General won’t act until we force them to.

    Surely some constitutional law must prevent them from doing what they are doing, but I’m no expert and I wish I were.

    My apologies about the lenght of this but I doubt I could say all I want to in this blog.

    This is a very disturbing.

    I believe Lord Monckton may have his defects but if we didn’t he wouldn’t be Human. At lest he has the guts to apologise for his error and how does that compare to the statement in the link above?

    Where is Mr Garnauts’ apology to the people of Australia for the sellout

    Say YES to election now !!!


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    rjm385

    rjm385 @ 47

    Damn…sorry about the emphasis but I still haven’t worked the http coding out for this blog site.


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