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		<title>By: jokes - Page 2 - TheEnvironmentSite.org Discussion and Information Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>jokes - Page 2 - TheEnvironmentSite.org Discussion and Information Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monday Meltdown: March 15th 2010 &#171; The Daily Bayonet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monday Meltdown: March 15th 2010 &#171; The Daily Bayonet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DeSmogBlog blames Big Oil for the increase in public skepticism.  That argument used to work well, until the lid was blown off Big Green and the megabucks behind the scaremongers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DeSmogBlog blames Big Oil for the increase in public skepticism.  That argument used to work well, until the lid was blown off Big Green and the megabucks behind the scaremongers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Saint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 01:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In my country, the oil and coal companies spent $500 million last year just on television advertising just on these questions.&quot;-Al Gore
Al Gore, you&#039;ve spent a similar mass of money on Seaside real estate. Don&#039;t make me laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In my country, the oil and coal companies spent $500 million last year just on television advertising just on these questions.&#8221;-Al Gore<br />
Al Gore, you&#8217;ve spent a similar mass of money on Seaside real estate. Don&#8217;t make me laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to &quot;follow the money&quot; or apply the Cui bono&quot; test then you need to move well beyond the Warmists and their fellow travellers who are but mere puppets in the scheme of things. Look to those who would &quot;hide in plain sight&quot;...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17568.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crashing Towards a New World Social Order 2012 &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to &#8220;follow the money&#8221; or apply the Cui bono&#8221; test then you need to move well beyond the Warmists and their fellow travellers who are but mere puppets in the scheme of things. Look to those who would &#8220;hide in plain sight&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17568.html" rel="nofollow">Crashing Towards a New World Social Order 2012 </a></p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article, but I think you may want to dig even deeper.  A good friend and coworker of mine consistently uses the argument of &quot;trusted advisor&quot; and falls back on the Union of Concerned Scientists.  I have seen references that this particular organization has been funded by competing oil companies and industrialists to provide a &quot;trusted&quot; group to discount or fight the use of nuclear power and the &quot;evils of Exxon.&quot;  BP is after all one of their backers, so they might as well get something out of it.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article, but I think you may want to dig even deeper.  A good friend and coworker of mine consistently uses the argument of &#8220;trusted advisor&#8221; and falls back on the Union of Concerned Scientists.  I have seen references that this particular organization has been funded by competing oil companies and industrialists to provide a &#8220;trusted&#8221; group to discount or fight the use of nuclear power and the &#8220;evils of Exxon.&#8221;  BP is after all one of their backers, so they might as well get something out of it.  <img src='http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore was quoted as saying, &quot;In my country, the oil and coal companies spent $500 million last year just on television advertising just on these questions. There are now five anti-climate lobbyists on Capitol Hill in Washington for every member of the House and Senate. So it&#039;s been a very massive, organized campaign.&quot; in an interview with a Norwegian talk show described in the following article, http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/03/al-gores-climate-groups-unite-as-he-sees-massive-opposition/1
This seems to be in conflict with the 23 million that Exxon spent.  Maybe he is confused with the 600 million Exxon is spending on biofuels research.  
Any Comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore was quoted as saying, &#8220;In my country, the oil and coal companies spent $500 million last year just on television advertising just on these questions. There are now five anti-climate lobbyists on Capitol Hill in Washington for every member of the House and Senate. So it&#8217;s been a very massive, organized campaign.&#8221; in an interview with a Norwegian talk show described in the following article, <a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/03/al-gores-climate-groups-unite-as-he-sees-massive-opposition/1" rel="nofollow">http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/03/al-gores-climate-groups-unite-as-he-sees-massive-opposition/1</a><br />
This seems to be in conflict with the 23 million that Exxon spent.  Maybe he is confused with the 600 million Exxon is spending on biofuels research.<br />
Any Comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louis, since a human body is a wet body, the water evaporated is part of that cooling hydro vapor cycle.  Should be a net 0 forcing.  

Well it sounds good anyway......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis, since a human body is a wet body, the water evaporated is part of that cooling hydro vapor cycle.  Should be a net 0 forcing.  </p>
<p>Well it sounds good anyway&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MattB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddy in #93 - I just noted a twisted post of yours.  Pleas re-read the Drum and note that the comment &quot;You are not a top climate scientist either&quot; was made in response to a skeptic saying so and so was not a climate scientist.  Note the word &quot;either&quot;.  Miond you after your agreeing with the distorted version of Pinker then I&#039;m not surprised you choose the distoted version here too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy in #93 &#8211; I just noted a twisted post of yours.  Pleas re-read the Drum and note that the comment &#8220;You are not a top climate scientist either&#8221; was made in response to a skeptic saying so and so was not a climate scientist.  Note the word &#8220;either&#8221;.  Miond you after your agreeing with the distorted version of Pinker then I&#8217;m not surprised you choose the distoted version here too.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Hissink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Hissink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, 

very good and I&#039;m surprised the factor of human body heat hasn&#039;t been invoked by the environmentalists or the AGW panic merchants - after all it&#039;s real, and, and....

Much more interesting re-reading Tommy Gold&#039;s Deep Hot Biosphere book - and watch out for my next Henry Thornton article - should be up during the next day or so. Should put a lion among the camels here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, </p>
<p>very good and I&#8217;m surprised the factor of human body heat hasn&#8217;t been invoked by the environmentalists or the AGW panic merchants &#8211; after all it&#8217;s real, and, and&#8230;.</p>
<p>Much more interesting re-reading Tommy Gold&#8217;s Deep Hot Biosphere book &#8211; and watch out for my next Henry Thornton article &#8211; should be up during the next day or so. Should put a lion among the camels here.</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
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		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;Aah, but Monsieur, zey are not my camels&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;Aah, but Monsieur, zey are not my camels&#8221;</p>
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