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		<title>By: martha</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/03/thai-translation/#comment-182609</link>
		<dc:creator>martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great translation and very useful. Thanks for your work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great translation and very useful. Thanks for your work.</p>
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		<title>By: Arica Brumet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arica Brumet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a matter of fact I&#039;m drawing up a manuscript similar to your post this week. Consequently, I have to say &quot;thanks&quot; for kindly allowing this thought provoking write-up to be freely accessible to websurfers.  I can notify you when it&#039;s done, if I remember!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of fact I&#8217;m drawing up a manuscript similar to your post this week. Consequently, I have to say &#8220;thanks&#8221; for kindly allowing this thought provoking write-up to be freely accessible to websurfers.  I can notify you when it&#8217;s done, if I remember!</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Hovorka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gustavo Hovorka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 05:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.duttonsbrentwood.com/la-lakers/why-kobe-is-chasing-the-ghosts-of-the-1990s/</description>
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		<title>By: Graeme Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We all need to be mindful of your hard work and buy you some more chocolate!&quot;

You going to spoil her good looks. Send her gold and silver coins from the Perth mint instead. When the dark ages hordes arrive, hard on the heels of the collapse of the paper currencies, we need at least one enlightenment person, with some purchasing power.  Its a bad place these anti-science leftists are taking us too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We all need to be mindful of your hard work and buy you some more chocolate!&#8221;</p>
<p>You going to spoil her good looks. Send her gold and silver coins from the Perth mint instead. When the dark ages hordes arrive, hard on the heels of the collapse of the paper currencies, we need at least one enlightenment person, with some purchasing power.  Its a bad place these anti-science leftists are taking us too.</p>
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		<title>By: DougS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DougS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joanne Nova:
March 12th, 2010 at 2:12 pm

&quot;I’d like to know if there is any way of rigging data that they haven’t tried…&quot;



Let&#039;s have a think:

1- You can just make them up

2- You can get real data and keep applying factors (or algorithms) &#039;til you get the result you desire

3- You can use obscure proxies that give you the results you want (albeit with a bit of massaging and &#039;hiding&#039;)

4- You can work backwards from the desired result and look around data that fit

5- You can ignore data that doesn&#039;t match your expectations

6- You can delete measurements from places likely to provide undesirable results

7- You can cherry-pick

Nope. Don&#039;t think there are any that haven&#039;t been used already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joanne Nova:<br />
March 12th, 2010 at 2:12 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;I’d like to know if there is any way of rigging data that they haven’t tried…&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have a think:</p>
<p>1- You can just make them up</p>
<p>2- You can get real data and keep applying factors (or algorithms) &#8217;til you get the result you desire</p>
<p>3- You can use obscure proxies that give you the results you want (albeit with a bit of massaging and &#8216;hiding&#8217;)</p>
<p>4- You can work backwards from the desired result and look around data that fit</p>
<p>5- You can ignore data that doesn&#8217;t match your expectations</p>
<p>6- You can delete measurements from places likely to provide undesirable results</p>
<p>7- You can cherry-pick</p>
<p>Nope. Don&#8217;t think there are any that haven&#8217;t been used already!</p>
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		<title>By: twawki</title>
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		<dc:creator>twawki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go the Jo!

Great to see it getting translated into more languages. We all need to be mindful of your hard work and buy you some more chocolate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go the Jo!</p>
<p>Great to see it getting translated into more languages. We all need to be mindful of your hard work and buy you some more chocolate!</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo, The Rural press have articles saying that February was the hottest February on record in WA.  Is there any truth in it?  I know Marble Bar&#039;s record was in 1924 -25.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo, The Rural press have articles saying that February was the hottest February on record in WA.  Is there any truth in it?  I know Marble Bar&#8217;s record was in 1924 -25.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionell Griffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lionell Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo @ 6:   I’d like to know if there is any way of rigging data that they haven’t tried…

How about making an honest presentation and interpretation of the data?   I suspect they are too attached to cooking the data so it gives the answers they want to get to try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo @ 6:   I’d like to know if there is any way of rigging data that they haven’t tried…</p>
<p>How about making an honest presentation and interpretation of the data?   I suspect they are too attached to cooking the data so it gives the answers they want to get to try it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionell Griffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lionell Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is especially good quote from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/lets-talk-turkey/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ICECAP&lt;/a&gt; article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s more of a “forensics” mind set. I’ve done computer forensics, and one of the things you learn is that it is much much harder to ‘cook the books’ so they come out right under ALL available tools… So always “Come to your opponent out of the Sun.” and “Take nothing that he offers to you.” Sun Tzu. And the best way to assure you have found ‘where the sun is’ in a forensics exam is to come at the data from ALL sides. And never do things in the usual way or the way the other side suggests they ought to be done; if possible, approach from exactly the other direction…)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When you take that approach, you find all kinds of interesting things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is especially good quote from the <a href="http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/lets-talk-turkey/" rel="nofollow">ICECAP</a> article:</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s more of a “forensics” mind set. I’ve done computer forensics, and one of the things you learn is that it is much much harder to ‘cook the books’ so they come out right under ALL available tools… So always “Come to your opponent out of the Sun.” and “Take nothing that he offers to you.” Sun Tzu. And the best way to assure you have found ‘where the sun is’ in a forensics exam is to come at the data from ALL sides. And never do things in the usual way or the way the other side suggests they ought to be done; if possible, approach from exactly the other direction…)</p></blockquote>
<p>When you take that approach, you find all kinds of interesting things.</p>
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		<dc:creator>MadJak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question,

  I can see how messed up the surface temperatures are,  but what about the satellite observations?  Is anything of interest showing up there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question,</p>
<p>  I can see how messed up the surface temperatures are,  but what about the satellite observations?  Is anything of interest showing up there?</p>
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