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		<title>By: Anthropogenic Global Warming, or just Natural Variation? &#124; warmingtruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthropogenic Global Warming, or just Natural Variation? &#124; warmingtruth</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: FM newswire for March 20, interesting articles about geopolitics &#171; Fabius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>FM newswire for March 20, interesting articles about geopolitics &#171; Fabius Maximus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so the data has been altered.  Either the Global warming guys did it or the global iceage guys did, maybe even both.  My biggest concern is that we are taking a 200 year snapshot of a world billions of years old and saying we are doing something to destroy the world as we know it.  Did humans cause the end of every ice age?  With the Earthquakes lately it shows the Earth changes and so does it&#039;s climate.  Eventually LA will be up near San Fransisco and thus LA will have rain.  Is this our fault?  No.  This is nature doing what it always does, change.  We are not causing the impact.  GE, Al Gore, Mann, and the rest are looking for political and economical gains.  They ignore not just current trends but world lifespan trends.  When these same type of people claimed Hurricane Katrina was our fault, they failed to see the 70 year cycle of hurricanes and even the bigger cycle spanning millenia.  We need to look at the Earth&#039;s history when dealing with Earth changes, not at our lifetime histories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so the data has been altered.  Either the Global warming guys did it or the global iceage guys did, maybe even both.  My biggest concern is that we are taking a 200 year snapshot of a world billions of years old and saying we are doing something to destroy the world as we know it.  Did humans cause the end of every ice age?  With the Earthquakes lately it shows the Earth changes and so does it&#8217;s climate.  Eventually LA will be up near San Fransisco and thus LA will have rain.  Is this our fault?  No.  This is nature doing what it always does, change.  We are not causing the impact.  GE, Al Gore, Mann, and the rest are looking for political and economical gains.  They ignore not just current trends but world lifespan trends.  When these same type of people claimed Hurricane Katrina was our fault, they failed to see the 70 year cycle of hurricanes and even the bigger cycle spanning millenia.  We need to look at the Earth&#8217;s history when dealing with Earth changes, not at our lifetime histories.</p>
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		<title>By: TWAWKI &#187; Is wind power simply all hot air!</title>
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		<dc:creator>TWAWKI &#187; Is wind power simply all hot air!</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Manipulating history to fool and tax the masses, Direct evidence the claimed warming is a fabrication, What the public really thinks of global warming, Our hot dry future is being flooded out, Claim after claim, alarmist prediction after alarmist prediction has failed to come true, Biofuels increase CO2, Obama &#8211; President of the depressed and depression, Alarmist attempting to fight back with their usual armory of lies, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bush bunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bush bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You realise Jo, these people who do nothing to interrupt thought
and reason are basically there to do just that.  The AGW hypothesis
is floundering.  They know that... they are becoming frantic.

They are now arguing not about the nonsense and unproven AGW hypothesis, (personally I don&#039;t think it requires the title hypothesis it&#039;s a scam, fraud, corrupted data etc) or substantiate
their fraud or misconceptions but to disrupt and insult other&#039;s who do not agree with them. 

How can we the AGW and solution to tax Carbon (or Methane) is a rort.  To save the planet! Bulssh to make some people richer through CCT&#039;s and clean energy involvement, including nuclear, solar and geothermal, and particularly the defunk wind farms as described by Dr Richard S.Courtney.

All they can do is say we are dillusional?  But for what reasons?

To me who wish to support the AGW scam, and what the solutions may cost humanity based on a lie, are guilty by association by crims like Pachauri (particularly) Mann, Hansen, Jones, and of course the prime prince of the Inconvenient Truth Al Gore and all their associates in this crime, including the 40 CSIRO who were
paid to produce data to the IPCC!  Mind you I don&#039;t think some of the CSIRO employees were actually in agreement that droughts in Australia weren&#039;t caused by CO2 or climate change.  But they had to toe the line with the governments point of view.

Personally the Australian Government have tried to apply their
climate change solution all based on the IPCC predictions.

They have been conned like a lot of innocent AGW believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realise Jo, these people who do nothing to interrupt thought<br />
and reason are basically there to do just that.  The AGW hypothesis<br />
is floundering.  They know that&#8230; they are becoming frantic.</p>
<p>They are now arguing not about the nonsense and unproven AGW hypothesis, (personally I don&#8217;t think it requires the title hypothesis it&#8217;s a scam, fraud, corrupted data etc) or substantiate<br />
their fraud or misconceptions but to disrupt and insult other&#8217;s who do not agree with them. </p>
<p>How can we the AGW and solution to tax Carbon (or Methane) is a rort.  To save the planet! Bulssh to make some people richer through CCT&#8217;s and clean energy involvement, including nuclear, solar and geothermal, and particularly the defunk wind farms as described by Dr Richard S.Courtney.</p>
<p>All they can do is say we are dillusional?  But for what reasons?</p>
<p>To me who wish to support the AGW scam, and what the solutions may cost humanity based on a lie, are guilty by association by crims like Pachauri (particularly) Mann, Hansen, Jones, and of course the prime prince of the Inconvenient Truth Al Gore and all their associates in this crime, including the 40 CSIRO who were<br />
paid to produce data to the IPCC!  Mind you I don&#8217;t think some of the CSIRO employees were actually in agreement that droughts in Australia weren&#8217;t caused by CO2 or climate change.  But they had to toe the line with the governments point of view.</p>
<p>Personally the Australian Government have tried to apply their<br />
climate change solution all based on the IPCC predictions.</p>
<p>They have been conned like a lot of innocent AGW believers.</p>
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		<title>By: PhilJourdan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilJourdan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t offer free therapy and advice for delusional brains. (What makes you think you have the right to demand it?)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If he is American, probably the passage of the Heath Care bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t offer free therapy and advice for delusional brains. (What makes you think you have the right to demand it?)
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<p>If he is American, probably the passage of the Heath Care bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Nova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne Nova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn, someone who might be called gary eck or Robert black  but has the same IP was held in moderation ages ago and asked to use manners or &quot;provide evidence&quot;. Whoever this two-named emailler is, I&#039;ve replied off line reminding him that none of his comments will be posted until he addresses the original point and reason his comments were held months ago. But the delusional stream of comments comes in. Who ever you are, you are a dishonest commenter if you can&#039;t stick to a point and provide either an answer or an apology for calling us baseless names. I can see in the small percentage of your words that I bother to read, that you somehow expect me to provide the free service of editing out your ad homs and argument from authority, and weeding through your smears as if I should provide a free community service to any rude illogical commenter by fishing out any valid point they might make (that I haven&#039;t already debunked)? The answer is (as Graeme Bird so aptly put it elsewhere) if I do that, &quot;I&#039;d end up a serf to stupidtown.&quot; 

You must meet standards here so I &lt;em&gt;don&#039;t have to edit&lt;/em&gt; your comments. You&#039;ve proven over and over that you can&#039;t reason, until you show you can, and you are honest, your comments are disappearing into the ether. Don&#039;t assume I bother reading them, I scan them for keywords that show you have lifted your standards and now meet the basic requirements of posting here. 

I don&#039;t offer free therapy and advice for delusional brains. (What makes you think you have the right to demand it?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn, someone who might be called gary eck or Robert black  but has the same IP was held in moderation ages ago and asked to use manners or &#8220;provide evidence&#8221;. Whoever this two-named emailler is, I&#8217;ve replied off line reminding him that none of his comments will be posted until he addresses the original point and reason his comments were held months ago. But the delusional stream of comments comes in. Who ever you are, you are a dishonest commenter if you can&#8217;t stick to a point and provide either an answer or an apology for calling us baseless names. I can see in the small percentage of your words that I bother to read, that you somehow expect me to provide the free service of editing out your ad homs and argument from authority, and weeding through your smears as if I should provide a free community service to any rude illogical commenter by fishing out any valid point they might make (that I haven&#8217;t already debunked)? The answer is (as Graeme Bird so aptly put it elsewhere) if I do that, &#8220;I&#8217;d end up a serf to stupidtown.&#8221; </p>
<p>You must meet standards here so I <em>don&#8217;t have to edit</em> your comments. You&#8217;ve proven over and over that you can&#8217;t reason, until you show you can, and you are honest, your comments are disappearing into the ether. Don&#8217;t assume I bother reading them, I scan them for keywords that show you have lifted your standards and now meet the basic requirements of posting here. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t offer free therapy and advice for delusional brains. (What makes you think you have the right to demand it?)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunsettommy, Good point!  

My guess is that they fainted and are recovering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunsettommy, Good point!  </p>
<p>My guess is that they fainted and are recovering.</p>
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		<title>By: sunsettommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunsettommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post Hoc,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Is this the same Wegman that has been exposed as being coached by a Republican aid and didn’t even consult Mann when testifying before the hearings, yet was in constant contact with McIiintock, couldn’t be him could it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You were challenged on it at the very next post # 129.

Then we have this from you,at post # 125:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone got any scientific evidence that shows the studies by Mann have bee “debunked”? Thought no.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Richard Courtney gave you a long reply at post # 143.

You after posting many times suddenly vanish and not reply to both Bob Malloy and Richard Courtney.

What happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post Hoc,</p>
<blockquote><p>Is this the same Wegman that has been exposed as being coached by a Republican aid and didn’t even consult Mann when testifying before the hearings, yet was in constant contact with McIiintock, couldn’t be him could it?</p></blockquote>
<p>You were challenged on it at the very next post # 129.</p>
<p>Then we have this from you,at post # 125:</p>
<blockquote><p>Anyone got any scientific evidence that shows the studies by Mann have bee “debunked”? Thought no.</p></blockquote>
<p>Richard Courtney gave you a long reply at post # 143.</p>
<p>You after posting many times suddenly vanish and not reply to both Bob Malloy and Richard Courtney.</p>
<p>What happened?</p>
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