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		<title>By: The Ground Zero of Global Corruption – It Starts With the Currency &#124; Sovereign Independent UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ground Zero of Global Corruption – It Starts With the Currency &#124; Sovereign Independent UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a brand-spanking-new $2 Trillion market to trade carbon, who would have found millions to install 70 foot Carbon-Clocks, 50 page science reports and to donate and push into “green” education campaigns? Funny money [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a brand-spanking-new $2 Trillion market to trade carbon, who would have found millions to install 70 foot Carbon-Clocks, 50 page science reports and to donate and push into “green” education campaigns? Funny money [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why money-printing is like 'global warming' &#8211; Telegraph Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why money-printing is like 'global warming' &#8211; Telegraph Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a brand-spanking-new $2 Trillion market to trade carbon, who would have found millions to install 70 foot Carbon-Clocks, 50 page science reports and to donate and push into “green” education campaigns? Funny money [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Global Warming Hoax Weekly Round-Up, March 18th 2010 &#171; The Daily Bayonet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Warming Hoax Weekly Round-Up, March 18th 2010 &#171; The Daily Bayonet</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Jo Nova looks at the Deutsche Bank and why they want you to be afraid of the weather. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Otter @156

Anecdotes, newspapers and bloggers are &lt;b&gt;not peer reviewed&lt;/b&gt;.   Don&#039;t be silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otter @156</p>
<p>Anecdotes, newspapers and bloggers are <b>not peer reviewed</b>.   Don&#8217;t be silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see...

I don&#039;t trust scientists that
ARE Political activists for a leftist (or rightist) agenda.
ARE constantly using fear and propaganda to further their cause.
ARE unwilling to allow other scientists to openly discuss, review, test or argue a differing view.
ARE constantly mouthing &quot;peer review&quot; as though Peer is a God.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And it’s an “ethical community” (as Lee Smolin described it), so there is a demand for a high level of integrity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Scientists are humans and cannot be more ethical than any other large group of humans.  That was a particularly STUPID thing to say.......Show me the Peer reviewed study on that would you?

Arrogant, elitist, blog troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust scientists that<br />
ARE Political activists for a leftist (or rightist) agenda.<br />
ARE constantly using fear and propaganda to further their cause.<br />
ARE unwilling to allow other scientists to openly discuss, review, test or argue a differing view.<br />
ARE constantly mouthing &#8220;peer review&#8221; as though Peer is a God.</p>
<blockquote><p>And it’s an “ethical community” (as Lee Smolin described it), so there is a demand for a high level of integrity.</p></blockquote>
<p>Scientists are humans and cannot be more ethical than any other large group of humans.  That was a particularly STUPID thing to say&#8230;&#8230;.Show me the Peer reviewed study on that would you?</p>
<p>Arrogant, elitist, blog troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Otter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Wrong. All scientists trust other scientists results (if peer reviewed and not refuted through other peer reviewed results). &#039;

It is quite clear there are a Hell of a lot of scientists who don&#039;t trust the &#039;peer&#039; reviewed newspapers, anecdotes of hikers and leftist bloggers of the IPCC papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Wrong. All scientists trust other scientists results (if peer reviewed and not refuted through other peer reviewed results). &#8216;</p>
<p>It is quite clear there are a Hell of a lot of scientists who don&#8217;t trust the &#8216;peer&#8217; reviewed newspapers, anecdotes of hikers and leftist bloggers of the IPCC papers.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Richard, just to pick up on a side issue:-

&lt;i&gt;No scientist accepts something because it is asserted by “someone I trust”. &lt;/i&gt;

Wrong.   &lt;b&gt;All scientists&lt;/b&gt; trust other scientists results (if peer reviewed and not refuted through other peer reviewed results).   They have to, they don&#039;t have time or resources to repeat all the work done by others.

And it&#039;s an &quot;ethical community&quot; (as Lee Smolin described it), so there is a demand for a high level of integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Richard, just to pick up on a side issue:-</p>
<p><i>No scientist accepts something because it is asserted by “someone I trust”. </i></p>
<p>Wrong.   <b>All scientists</b> trust other scientists results (if peer reviewed and not refuted through other peer reviewed results).   They have to, they don&#8217;t have time or resources to repeat all the work done by others.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s an &#8220;ethical community&#8221; (as Lee Smolin described it), so there is a demand for a high level of integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard I think the basic misunderstanding here is that you appear to think that an IR photon once absorbed is &lt;b&gt;never&lt;/b&gt; re-emitted.  ie. that CO2 molecules remain permanently in an excited state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard I think the basic misunderstanding here is that you appear to think that an IR photon once absorbed is <b>never</b> re-emitted.  ie. that CO2 molecules remain permanently in an excited state.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard S Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard S Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM:

Apologise.  Then, having done that, &lt;strong&gt;GO AWAY&lt;/strong&gt;.

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM:</p>
<p>Apologise.  Then, having done that, <strong>GO AWAY</strong>.</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, you&#039;re ignoring re-emission.

And your paper analogy is wrong (although I&#039;ll concede it&#039;s a clever sleight of hand - if you actually do know what you&#039;re doing, rather than simply being mistaken.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, you&#8217;re ignoring re-emission.</p>
<p>And your paper analogy is wrong (although I&#8217;ll concede it&#8217;s a clever sleight of hand &#8211; if you actually do know what you&#8217;re doing, rather than simply being mistaken.)</p>
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