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		<title>By: BenA</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-great-collapse-of-the-global-warming-myth/#comment-63335</link>
		<dc:creator>BenA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find in reading those sites that say that population problems are a myth that their evidence is very sparse and inconclusive. Recently I read Book 1  of the free e-book series &quot;In Search of Utopia&quot; (http://andgulliverreturns.info), it blasts their lack of evidence  relative to their calling overpopulation a myth. The book, actually the last half of the book, takes on the skeptics in global warming, overpopulation, lack of fresh water, lack of food, and other areas where people deny the evidence. I strongly suggest that anyone  wanting to see the whole picture read the book, at least the last half. 
The outdated fertility replacement rate of 2.1 is also clarified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find in reading those sites that say that population problems are a myth that their evidence is very sparse and inconclusive. Recently I read Book 1  of the free e-book series &#8220;In Search of Utopia&#8221; (<a href="http://andgulliverreturns.info" rel="nofollow">http://andgulliverreturns.info</a>), it blasts their lack of evidence  relative to their calling overpopulation a myth. The book, actually the last half of the book, takes on the skeptics in global warming, overpopulation, lack of fresh water, lack of food, and other areas where people deny the evidence. I strongly suggest that anyone  wanting to see the whole picture read the book, at least the last half.<br />
The outdated fertility replacement rate of 2.1 is also clarified.</p>
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		<title>By: average joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>average joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is funny is the following;

The green agenda was run by people who were &quot;Socialisticly Inclined&quot;.

A socialist like the following approach;

There is only one Party. The Peoples Democratic Working Party.

Members to a Central Commitee is elected from the Party.

The Central Commitee debates what the concencus is on certain issues.

They set up a 5 year plan to implement the agenda.

After the concencus is decided, it is not allowed to debate it.
After all debating a concencus, is working against the will of the people.

Right?

So they tried the same setup within Science.

The Central Commitee was IPCC.

The Concencus was laid via &quot;Peer Revied Papers&quot; over a long period involving the HokeyTeam.

The Central Commitee picked only approved papers that suited the agenda to a &quot;Report&quot;, 
&quot;The Manifesto&quot;.

Then they wanted to implement it. And thats when the problems started.

Joanne Nova, Anthony Watts and the rest of the Contra Revolutionarys sabotaged the
process.

And we, who are not members of &quot;The Peoples Democratic Working Party&quot; say
Thank You! But its not over yet. They will try again. This time with &quot;Bio Diversity&quot;

It must also be remembered that they succeded many places. May I mention Norway, Denmark, Sweden, England, Germany, Spain, France.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is funny is the following;</p>
<p>The green agenda was run by people who were &#8220;Socialisticly Inclined&#8221;.</p>
<p>A socialist like the following approach;</p>
<p>There is only one Party. The Peoples Democratic Working Party.</p>
<p>Members to a Central Commitee is elected from the Party.</p>
<p>The Central Commitee debates what the concencus is on certain issues.</p>
<p>They set up a 5 year plan to implement the agenda.</p>
<p>After the concencus is decided, it is not allowed to debate it.<br />
After all debating a concencus, is working against the will of the people.</p>
<p>Right?</p>
<p>So they tried the same setup within Science.</p>
<p>The Central Commitee was IPCC.</p>
<p>The Concencus was laid via &#8220;Peer Revied Papers&#8221; over a long period involving the HokeyTeam.</p>
<p>The Central Commitee picked only approved papers that suited the agenda to a &#8220;Report&#8221;,<br />
&#8220;The Manifesto&#8221;.</p>
<p>Then they wanted to implement it. And thats when the problems started.</p>
<p>Joanne Nova, Anthony Watts and the rest of the Contra Revolutionarys sabotaged the<br />
process.</p>
<p>And we, who are not members of &#8220;The Peoples Democratic Working Party&#8221; say<br />
Thank You! But its not over yet. They will try again. This time with &#8220;Bio Diversity&#8221;</p>
<p>It must also be remembered that they succeded many places. May I mention Norway, Denmark, Sweden, England, Germany, Spain, France&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire debate about GW is based on CO2. Nothing else.  
Everything else is irrelevant.
All we ever had to do was prove CO2 is NOT a pollutant and is NOT causing any warming.
Well That Has Been Done.

But here is a link to the guy who proved it in 2004.
He discovered a mathematical &quot;Constant&quot; that proves beyond any doubt that CO2 is not a player in global warming.
That constant is being suppressed....let&#039;s get scientific folks and spread this link about.

http://www.examiner.com/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2010m1d12-Hungarian-Physicist-Dr-Ferenc-Miskolczi-proves-CO2-emissions-irrelevant-in-Earths-Climate

AND Thanks Jo for your amazing effort to make this place possible. People like you are the salt of the Earth.  I had the pleasure to say the same to Lord Monkton in Newcastle Australia last month....
What a day !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire debate about GW is based on CO2. Nothing else.<br />
Everything else is irrelevant.<br />
All we ever had to do was prove CO2 is NOT a pollutant and is NOT causing any warming.<br />
Well That Has Been Done.</p>
<p>But here is a link to the guy who proved it in 2004.<br />
He discovered a mathematical &#8220;Constant&#8221; that proves beyond any doubt that CO2 is not a player in global warming.<br />
That constant is being suppressed&#8230;.let&#8217;s get scientific folks and spread this link about.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2010m1d12-Hungarian-Physicist-Dr-Ferenc-Miskolczi-proves-CO2-emissions-irrelevant-in-Earths-Climate" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2010m1d12-Hungarian-Physicist-Dr-Ferenc-Miskolczi-proves-CO2-emissions-irrelevant-in-Earths-Climate</a></p>
<p>AND Thanks Jo for your amazing effort to make this place possible. People like you are the salt of the Earth.  I had the pleasure to say the same to Lord Monkton in Newcastle Australia last month&#8230;.<br />
What a day !</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To kill the enemy, all you have to do is cut off the head of the symbolic leader and burn its flag.

Where the hell is Gore?  That&#039;s the head that must roll.
The flag is that of the UN.
Gore has gone into hiding because he knows, HIS is the head that must roll.

What I really love about all this is that for the first time in my 61 years I am seeing people from all over the globe uniting. Doing their own due diligence. Studying science for goodness sake.lol, and winning. The Communists (Greenpeace) and socialists and propaganda-ists are no match for common sense and unity. No wonder they are trying to find ways to control the internet.

For Me, the crux was CO2 being ruled by The American Supreme Court as a pollutant and an enemy of mankind while they drank their Coke riddled with CO2 bubbles.  lolololololol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To kill the enemy, all you have to do is cut off the head of the symbolic leader and burn its flag.</p>
<p>Where the hell is Gore?  That&#8217;s the head that must roll.<br />
The flag is that of the UN.<br />
Gore has gone into hiding because he knows, HIS is the head that must roll.</p>
<p>What I really love about all this is that for the first time in my 61 years I am seeing people from all over the globe uniting. Doing their own due diligence. Studying science for goodness sake.lol, and winning. The Communists (Greenpeace) and socialists and propaganda-ists are no match for common sense and unity. No wonder they are trying to find ways to control the internet.</p>
<p>For Me, the crux was CO2 being ruled by The American Supreme Court as a pollutant and an enemy of mankind while they drank their Coke riddled with CO2 bubbles.  lolololololol</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ3y7SEy9vo

Global warming question by Richard Lindzen... back in 1990!</description>
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<p>Global warming question by Richard Lindzen&#8230; back in 1990!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops that was supposed to be in the &quot;Hanson Barracking&quot; thread.  Too many open tabs.....</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, it looks like Senator Inhofe won re-election Nov 2008 so 6 more years starting 2009-2015</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, it looks like Senator Inhofe won re-election Nov 2008 so 6 more years starting 2009-2015</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Thanks again.

I became a skeptic a little differently.  When I first began to hear about AGW it was all so cut-and-dried, all settled, we know it all and no debate is possible.  That rang an alarm simply because I know the world isn&#039;t like that.  So I began to look for information.  The first thing you find is that the authority on all this was the IPCC and they don&#039;t release any data or debate the matter with anyone they just make pronouncements of horrible consequences if we don&#039;t do as they say.  By comparison the skeptical side didn&#039;t hide their data, they were not even all in agreement on exactly the meaning of things but they were always anxious to debate the matter and were refused any opportunity to do so.  It didn&#039;t take long to figure out that one side had something to hide and the other didn&#039;t.  Openness is the hallmark of honesty and secretiveness is the hallmark of dishonesty.  One is justified by that alone in not believing the AGW alarm.

I kept on looking for information and have learned quite a lot.  My actual field is computer science; I&#039;m a software engineer by profession.  But before that I was an EE major so I&#039;ve had the good luck to have enough physics, chemistry and math to understand much of what I read here and elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>I became a skeptic a little differently.  When I first began to hear about AGW it was all so cut-and-dried, all settled, we know it all and no debate is possible.  That rang an alarm simply because I know the world isn&#8217;t like that.  So I began to look for information.  The first thing you find is that the authority on all this was the IPCC and they don&#8217;t release any data or debate the matter with anyone they just make pronouncements of horrible consequences if we don&#8217;t do as they say.  By comparison the skeptical side didn&#8217;t hide their data, they were not even all in agreement on exactly the meaning of things but they were always anxious to debate the matter and were refused any opportunity to do so.  It didn&#8217;t take long to figure out that one side had something to hide and the other didn&#8217;t.  Openness is the hallmark of honesty and secretiveness is the hallmark of dishonesty.  One is justified by that alone in not believing the AGW alarm.</p>
<p>I kept on looking for information and have learned quite a lot.  My actual field is computer science; I&#8217;m a software engineer by profession.  But before that I was an EE major so I&#8217;ve had the good luck to have enough physics, chemistry and math to understand much of what I read here and elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Meikle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Meikle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My knowledge of the Roman Empire is better than that of the Roman Republic, so I thought I had better check. The punic wars, against Carthage, were 264 to 146 BC after which Rome seized Carthage&#039;s possessions: namely the province of Africa, and Italty ( not the entire area we call Italy, for northern italy was part of Gaul at the time) was unified earlier than I thought, around 280 BC.

As for AGW my position came from my reading of history also. I knew before any science was referred to that the medieval warm period was real. They grew grapes in the British Isles, Greenland was green, hence its name, and Vikings settled there. So to me the eye witness accounts of contemoiraries in the middle ages trump all the ice bores etc that scientists insist on making. SO if 800 to 1300 AD were warmer (which likely helped Charlemagne&#039;s mini renaissance around 800) than today then it was not human emitted CO2 that did it. after all the heir of Pepin the Short, mayor of the palace ( they were majordomos to the Merovingian dynasty of Clovis the Frank) did not drive gas driven war machines while fighting off the saxons.

IT did turn out convenient for me that proper science properly done confirmed my instinct but I am even so pleased that I discovered the truth concerning AGW without recourse to a science degree, indeed from the very start I never believed in AGW.

So historians and other assorted arts degree types have something to contribute after all   ;)

(I was earmarked for science as a boy in school, but got sidetracked by the humanities and fine arts)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My knowledge of the Roman Empire is better than that of the Roman Republic, so I thought I had better check. The punic wars, against Carthage, were 264 to 146 BC after which Rome seized Carthage&#8217;s possessions: namely the province of Africa, and Italty ( not the entire area we call Italy, for northern italy was part of Gaul at the time) was unified earlier than I thought, around 280 BC.</p>
<p>As for AGW my position came from my reading of history also. I knew before any science was referred to that the medieval warm period was real. They grew grapes in the British Isles, Greenland was green, hence its name, and Vikings settled there. So to me the eye witness accounts of contemoiraries in the middle ages trump all the ice bores etc that scientists insist on making. SO if 800 to 1300 AD were warmer (which likely helped Charlemagne&#8217;s mini renaissance around 800) than today then it was not human emitted CO2 that did it. after all the heir of Pepin the Short, mayor of the palace ( they were majordomos to the Merovingian dynasty of Clovis the Frank) did not drive gas driven war machines while fighting off the saxons.</p>
<p>IT did turn out convenient for me that proper science properly done confirmed my instinct but I am even so pleased that I discovered the truth concerning AGW without recourse to a science degree, indeed from the very start I never believed in AGW.</p>
<p>So historians and other assorted arts degree types have something to contribute after all   <img src='http://joannenova.com.au/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(I was earmarked for science as a boy in school, but got sidetracked by the humanities and fine arts)</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve @293,

Thanks for the better number and the better history too.  My world history was a long time ago.

Like you I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll last a whole lot longer.  At 70 I&#039;ll not be around to see the worst of it but my son may well see some very terrible upheaval.  Hell, we may see it before we die.  Taking good farm land out of food production to grow corn for ethanol or worse, to let it go back to nature is proceeding apace.  We&#039;ll become net food importers in order to feed ourselves.  We depend more and more on China (a very good friend of the U.S., no?).  And they are dumping our bonds which has to lead to loss of confidence in the dollar and inflation even if Obama doesn&#039;t increase our debt even a dollar more.

Well I&#039;m rambling on.  No one knows for sure how things will work out.  But it scares me a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve @293,</p>
<p>Thanks for the better number and the better history too.  My world history was a long time ago.</p>
<p>Like you I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll last a whole lot longer.  At 70 I&#8217;ll not be around to see the worst of it but my son may well see some very terrible upheaval.  Hell, we may see it before we die.  Taking good farm land out of food production to grow corn for ethanol or worse, to let it go back to nature is proceeding apace.  We&#8217;ll become net food importers in order to feed ourselves.  We depend more and more on China (a very good friend of the U.S., no?).  And they are dumping our bonds which has to lead to loss of confidence in the dollar and inflation even if Obama doesn&#8217;t increase our debt even a dollar more.</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m rambling on.  No one knows for sure how things will work out.  But it scares me a lot.</p>
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