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		<title>By: Instant business credit card</title>
		<link>http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/falling-public-opinion-picks-up-momentum/#comment-59714</link>
		<dc:creator>Instant business credit card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sweet article…I&#039;ve really liked it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sweet article…I&#8217;ve really liked it!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda Devine in the SMH: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/climate-alarmists-out-in-the-cold-20100205-nik5.html

Especially the phrase &quot;noble cause corruption&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda Devine in the SMH: <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/climate-alarmists-out-in-the-cold-20100205-nik5.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/climate-alarmists-out-in-the-cold-20100205-nik5.html</a></p>
<p>Especially the phrase &#8220;noble cause corruption&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele,

Here&#039;s your five!

At least Feinstein responded but not so for Boxer.  On the other hand Boxer&#039;s popularity is down in the basement and she could easily be out in November.  We all need to get behind whoever her Republican opponent turns out to be.  Not that Republicans are exactly sterling but at least they will not like cap-and-trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your five!</p>
<p>At least Feinstein responded but not so for Boxer.  On the other hand Boxer&#8217;s popularity is down in the basement and she could easily be out in November.  We all need to get behind whoever her Republican opponent turns out to be.  Not that Republicans are exactly sterling but at least they will not like cap-and-trade.</p>
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		<title>By: MattB</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how you guys feel.  In the Abbott lead up to the CPRS I sent many emails to Liberal Senators urging them to come up with a decent climate policy, and all I got in return was regurgitated nonsense about shooting down Rudd&#039;s CPRS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how you guys feel.  In the Abbott lead up to the CPRS I sent many emails to Liberal Senators urging them to come up with a decent climate policy, and all I got in return was regurgitated nonsense about shooting down Rudd&#8217;s CPRS.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, give me five! We belong to some sort of club. What kind of club I&#039;m not sure - maybe the receivers of clueless politician&#039;s form letters, I don&#039;t know. But at least I know I&#039;m not alone.

We must persist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, give me five! We belong to some sort of club. What kind of club I&#8217;m not sure &#8211; maybe the receivers of clueless politician&#8217;s form letters, I don&#8217;t know. But at least I know I&#8217;m not alone.</p>
<p>We must persist!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Hogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sdcougar @26,

Funny thing, Mrs. Gardiner&#039;s response from Senator Feinstein is a duplicate of the one I received.  Senator not so Fine-Stein is a true Kool-Aid drinker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sdcougar @26,</p>
<p>Funny thing, Mrs. Gardiner&#8217;s response from Senator Feinstein is a duplicate of the one I received.  Senator not so Fine-Stein is a true Kool-Aid drinker.</p>
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		<title>By: buzz345</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s a letter a friend of mine has written to Penny Wong today
To all federal Members of Parliament, Letter to the Editor


The Weekend Australian newspaper (Sa.19.12.09) published a major article headlined “Scientists ‘crying wolf’ over coral”. Quotes: “Professor Ridd said scientists who predicted corals would be mostly extinct by mid-century had a credibility problem because the Great Barrier Reef was in ‘bloody brilliant shape.&quot; “Ten years ago, I was told that the coral was going to die from sediment, and we have proved that is complete rubbish”.


Its editorial stated: “The Queensland tourist attraction is proving its resilience”.


During 2008 winter’s record low temperatures, ABC News reported coral bleaching due to cold. The reef was adapting to natural weather variations as it’s done for millions of years.


UN IPCC Chairman Rajendra Pachauri is reportedly under investigation in Britain for ‘very serious financial irregularities’. Separately, he has reportedly used bogus claims of alarm to secure millions of dollars for TERI, of which he is a director. He has many huge conflicts of interests now publicly exposed. The scientist who made the statement of unfounded alarm at the centre of the UN IPCC’s Himalayan scandal works for TERI.


Our free-spending Prime Minister gave Pachauri’s TERI one million dollars. Senator Wong gave almost $50,000 in a grant entitled ‘Influencing International Climate Change’.


Nature controls global climate through galactic, solar, planetary, oceanic, atmospheric drivers and their interactions. Grants to TERI only influence climate spin.


Before spending millions of taxpayer dollars on bogus global warming claims during the financial crisis, why did our free-spending Prime Minister and Senator Wong not do their due diligence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s a letter a friend of mine has written to Penny Wong today<br />
To all federal Members of Parliament, Letter to the Editor</p>
<p>The Weekend Australian newspaper (Sa.19.12.09) published a major article headlined “Scientists ‘crying wolf’ over coral”. Quotes: “Professor Ridd said scientists who predicted corals would be mostly extinct by mid-century had a credibility problem because the Great Barrier Reef was in ‘bloody brilliant shape.&#8221; “Ten years ago, I was told that the coral was going to die from sediment, and we have proved that is complete rubbish”.</p>
<p>Its editorial stated: “The Queensland tourist attraction is proving its resilience”.</p>
<p>During 2008 winter’s record low temperatures, ABC News reported coral bleaching due to cold. The reef was adapting to natural weather variations as it’s done for millions of years.</p>
<p>UN IPCC Chairman Rajendra Pachauri is reportedly under investigation in Britain for ‘very serious financial irregularities’. Separately, he has reportedly used bogus claims of alarm to secure millions of dollars for TERI, of which he is a director. He has many huge conflicts of interests now publicly exposed. The scientist who made the statement of unfounded alarm at the centre of the UN IPCC’s Himalayan scandal works for TERI.</p>
<p>Our free-spending Prime Minister gave Pachauri’s TERI one million dollars. Senator Wong gave almost $50,000 in a grant entitled ‘Influencing International Climate Change’.</p>
<p>Nature controls global climate through galactic, solar, planetary, oceanic, atmospheric drivers and their interactions. Grants to TERI only influence climate spin.</p>
<p>Before spending millions of taxpayer dollars on bogus global warming claims during the financial crisis, why did our free-spending Prime Minister and Senator Wong not do their due diligence?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Peter of Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does look like that a &quot;climate tax&quot; is needed to avoid another even bigger financial catastrophe.  The climate issue is just a diversion and a con job.  If that&#039;s the case, I would have preferred they were honest about it and just told us we would have to pay higher taxes.  At least it would cut out all the crap about AGW.  Given the way things are panning out though, I hate to be a scientists in the future.  Their reputation will be smashed to pieces, and be thought of as bad as robbers and politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does look like that a &#8220;climate tax&#8221; is needed to avoid another even bigger financial catastrophe.  The climate issue is just a diversion and a con job.  If that&#8217;s the case, I would have preferred they were honest about it and just told us we would have to pay higher taxes.  At least it would cut out all the crap about AGW.  Given the way things are panning out though, I hate to be a scientists in the future.  Their reputation will be smashed to pieces, and be thought of as bad as robbers and politicians.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Baa Humbug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Mary Mary, what you say is quite contrary....to IPCC&#039;s own statements. Here, let me show you.

IPCC AR4 WG1 SPM (Summary for Policy Makers)

Page 4 Fig.spm2 lists all the radiative forcing components and includes the Level Of Scientific Understanding (LOSU)

here is a summary

Of the 9 components listed, 2 (CO2 and other ghg&#039;s) are listed as high LOSU.
The other 7, including most importantly the Sun are listed as low or medium low LOSU.
Most pertinently, the very important climate drivers of Water Vapour and Clouds are NOT listed at all due to near zero understanding.

You are welcome to check by downloading the report from the IPCC website. What are your thoughts?

By the way Mary, ALL living  beings, be they animal or vegetable change their environments to some degree. The question is, how much change, how soon and what effects if any on other living beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Mary Mary, what you say is quite contrary&#8230;.to IPCC&#8217;s own statements. Here, let me show you.</p>
<p>IPCC AR4 WG1 SPM (Summary for Policy Makers)</p>
<p>Page 4 Fig.spm2 lists all the radiative forcing components and includes the Level Of Scientific Understanding (LOSU)</p>
<p>here is a summary</p>
<p>Of the 9 components listed, 2 (CO2 and other ghg&#8217;s) are listed as high LOSU.<br />
The other 7, including most importantly the Sun are listed as low or medium low LOSU.<br />
Most pertinently, the very important climate drivers of Water Vapour and Clouds are NOT listed at all due to near zero understanding.</p>
<p>You are welcome to check by downloading the report from the IPCC website. What are your thoughts?</p>
<p>By the way Mary, ALL living  beings, be they animal or vegetable change their environments to some degree. The question is, how much change, how soon and what effects if any on other living beings.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Bargwara:
February 3rd, 2010 at 1:24 pm

&quot;Not amateurish and childish propaganda like your “Skeptic’s Handbook”

lmfao! Mary dear, (I hope Jo does not get mad about this but) I regularly print out a copy of the &quot;Childish&quot; handbook and drop it at the bar I pop into. I then move down the bar and after getting my beer in, settle down to wait for it to be picked up. The copies have never been torn up or thrown in the bin and have won me many new friends who had fallen for your sort of garbage but now have been won over. 

For instance your, &quot;If there is fault in the thousands upon thousands of peer reviewed papers that form the science&quot; statement. Not that old trolls line again! Which peer review? The WWF? Greenpeace? The one that was peer reviewed over the phone? Or Mann&#039;s stuff peer reviewed by Jones? Or Jones&#039;s stuff peer reviewed by Mann? After all Mann worked his but off to get Jones awarded some spurious doctorate and then wanted one in return!

Now run along and leave we grown ups to our fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Bargwara:<br />
February 3rd, 2010 at 1:24 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Not amateurish and childish propaganda like your “Skeptic’s Handbook”</p>
<p>lmfao! Mary dear, (I hope Jo does not get mad about this but) I regularly print out a copy of the &#8220;Childish&#8221; handbook and drop it at the bar I pop into. I then move down the bar and after getting my beer in, settle down to wait for it to be picked up. The copies have never been torn up or thrown in the bin and have won me many new friends who had fallen for your sort of garbage but now have been won over. </p>
<p>For instance your, &#8220;If there is fault in the thousands upon thousands of peer reviewed papers that form the science&#8221; statement. Not that old trolls line again! Which peer review? The WWF? Greenpeace? The one that was peer reviewed over the phone? Or Mann&#8217;s stuff peer reviewed by Jones? Or Jones&#8217;s stuff peer reviewed by Mann? After all Mann worked his but off to get Jones awarded some spurious doctorate and then wanted one in return!</p>
<p>Now run along and leave we grown ups to our fun!</p>
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